Will Cain Country - Trump Vs. Musk! Plus, Pacers NBA Chaos And The Sports Time Machine (ft. Ricky Cobb)

Episode Date: June 6, 2025

On this edition of The Will Cain Show’s Friday sports episode, Will opens the show by breaking down the story everyone is talking about: the world's richest man versus the world's most powerful man as the relationship between Elon Musk and President Donald Trump implodes.  Will is then joined by Ricky Cobb, Host of OutKick's 'The Ricky Cobb Show,' to discuss the Indiana Pacers flipping the script on the NBA Finals favorite Oklahoma City Thunder, and Texas Tech's push to win a championship in women's softball by paying a star player $1 million a year in NIL money coming out of the transfer portal.  The two also debate if players and teams from decades ago could survive and thrive in modern day professional sports, And what sporting events would Will or Ricky go back in time to witness firsthand? Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on X: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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over at outkick.com he's got a brand new newsletter the ricky cobb rewind we're going to talk about whether or not any team from the 70s, the 80s, in any sport could step forward in a time machine and compete in today's NFL or NBA. Plus, we'll break down the Thunder and the Warriors, surprising Game 1 and the Women's College World Series. And can you buy your way to championships? But I want to get started today with first talking about the biggest thing in the news that cannot be escaped, and that is the implosion of the relationship between Donald Trump and Elon Musk. late Thursday on x and truth social we saw the disintegration of the most powerful relationship

in the world between the world's richest man and the world's most powerful man Elon Musk has exited the White House Donald Trump has now said he was starting to wear thin at the White House and he's upset that EV credits were not included in the big beautiful bill Elon Musk didn't like this and he took to X after a week of building tension over his displeasure of the big, beautiful bill. And that and its substance is worthy of its own debate. But right now, this is devolved into an absolute battle of personalities. Musk said that Donald Trump, the reason that the Epstein files were not released is because

Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. Musk said and endorsed the idea that Donald Trump should be impeached and replaced by J.D. Vance. It absolutely spilled over. It seems irreparable. Now, they're having some cooling of tension since then, just some small overtures that they could get back together. But I don't know how you walk back across this river. First, on the Epstein note, that's absurd.

Okay, if Donald Trump were in the Epstein files, beyond what we know and what he's admitted that he knew Jeffrey Epstein and had flown on his plane before, if he were in the Epstein files of something incriminating, are you telling me that Jim Comey's FBI, Are you telling me that Joe Biden's led government wouldn't have already used that to take down Donald Trump? They've done everything under the sun, the DOJ and the Biden administration, to attack Donald Trump reputationally and with lawfare. And they would have sat on a scandal with Jeffrey Epstein, please.

And for that matter, what does it say about Elon Musk? If he knew about this but didn't want to say anything until he didn't like the level of spending cuts and the big, beautiful bill, no. There's nothing to this Epstein thing. Well, nothing really concerns Donald Trump. There's something to the Epstein stuff, but it's the thing nobody's talking about. What does it say about our relationship with other foreign allies or countries? No, it appears right now, quite honestly,

that Elon Musk is unstable. I don't know. There are articles in the New York Times about his drug use. He's obviously a genius. He's one of the world. I mean, he is a Thomas Edison level genius, and he will go down in history. I've seen people say that Elon Musk's are a dime or dozen.

They're not. He'll go down in history as one of the world's greatest men. But I don't know with his personality and his political background that anyone should consider this vessel that is completely plugged with holes. Steve Bannon has talked about, would you be surprised if he cozyed up to Democrat politicians? And the answer is no. I mean, honestly, I wouldn't. But let's hope that this relationship can be repaired because I want to be clear about something else. Donald Trump, and I mean this, is a Mount Rushmore-Level president.

Donald Trump is the most powerful man in the world. He was the one elected by the people. He is the one that is a visionary that is changing the United States of America. It's true. Musk help him get elected. But it's also true that he's the most unique figure in American politics over the last, well over half a century. Maybe in a century, remaking not just a Republican Party, but the United States of America. and it's concerning and sad that this powerful partnership is on such rocks and it's reality TV entertaining

but it ain't good and the left is going to love it right now two of a day said the Brooklyn brunch crew is trying to figure out what they're supposed to rip the bumper stickers off their teslas the ones that said I bought this before Elon went crazy because hey what does that say now do you mean you're actually pro Trump the left is loving it CNN's wall to wall everybody's all in on this My suspicion is this blows up in their face, just like every other thing they've gone all in on. And I don't know if that means a big, beautiful makeup session after this big, beautiful fallout,

and maybe after they pass the big beautiful bill. I don't know. But I expect the unexpected when it comes to Musk and Trump. More of the Will Kane show right after this. I'm Janice Dean. Join me every Sunday as I focus on stories of hope and people who are truly. rays of sunshine in their community and across the world.

Listen and follow now at Fox Newspodcast.com. This is Jimmy Phala, inviting you to join me for Fox Across America, where we'll discuss every single one of the Democrats' dumb ideas. Just kidding, it's only a three-hour show. Listen live at noon Eastern or get the podcast at Fox Across America.com. Welcome back to the Will Kane show. Ricky Cobb is the host of the Ricky Cobb show on Outkick.com. We had him come in today to talk about sports.

We ended up talking about everything under the sun when it comes to our childhoods, nostalgia, 70s, 80s, teams, all off the launching point of how good are the Indiana Pacers. Here is Ricky Cobb. The host of the Ricky Cobb show and a brand new newsletter that you need to subscribe to the Ricky Cobb Rewind, both at Outkick.com joins me now. What's up, Ricky? How you doing, Will? I'm good, brother. It's been a minute. Good to be back. It has been. I'm glad to have you back. Glad to have you here on this edition of Kane on Sports late night last night in the NBA. And for that matter, by the way, Ricky as well, the Women's College World Series.

I actually watched the end of both. Texas Tech versus Texas and the Indiana Pacers versus the Oklahoma City Thunder. And I think there's something interesting to come out of both. Let's talk for a minute about the NBA finals. I went into this and most people thought that the Oklahoma City Thunder are one of the most dominant teams in recent memory. They play defense. They obviously have an incredible superstar in NBA, MVP, Shea Gildjus Alexander. And yet there at the end, with the last shot of the game, the only time they led the entire game,

Tyrese Halliburton hits the game winner, the Indiana Pacers. It was, by the way, an incredible night in the city of Oklahoma City, as both those women's college world series and NBA finals were taking place in Oklahoma City. but I guess we never counted on Tyrese Halliburton arriving at the dominant superstar of a game that takes over and hits the game-winning shot. I don't know if it's going to last for an entire series, Ricky, but it was a surprising start to the NBA finals. Yeah, absolutely. I saw the line on the first game, and I thought, man, that is a, that's a lot of points that

we're laying here. I think the line was somewhere around 9 or 10 at tip-off, Will. This Indiana Pacers team, they're built different. You're absolutely right. The Thunder were the best team in the league, class of the league, great defense, a very well-rounded team, Shea Gilgis Alexander, obviously the MVP of the league and for good reason. But this Indiana team is feisty, man.

We have seen it time and again in these playoffs. Coming back against the Cleveland Cavaliers with, you know, under a minute less. a racing a seven-point deficit. We saw them come back against the New York Knicks a couple of times. Big victories there at Madison Square Garden. So they do it again in game one of the NBA finals. So look, I think the thunder, you got to maintain them as the favorites, even losing game one in the fashion that they did at home.

But let me tell you something. This Indiana Pacers team, they are live underdogs. There's no doubt about it. And we, again, Tyrese Halliburton, what a coming out for him in this postseason. He is a legitimate superstar now. There's no question about it. And listen, I give the Pacers a real chance here to pull an upset. You know, I don't know what the odds were, what the bet was at the beginning of the season for the Indiana Pacers to win it all.

But it had to have paid off handsomely if they pulled this off. And it's kind of one of those things where I think that the Oklahoma City Thunder are inevitable. They're going to win the NBA. title. But we keep underestimating the Pacers. We keep letting them surprise us. And if they did pull it off, it would be one of the biggest long shots, I think in NBA history, to win the title. And it would be a fascinating discussion in where does that team rank, you know, in terms of long shots. Now, it's not Lester City winning the Premier League, which was 250 to 1. And that was only 250 to 1 because the betting odds were capped at that big.

of a long shot. It would have been more if the betting houses didn't cap it. But I don't even know off the top of my head what the comp would be if the Pacers just kept surprising us, if the Pacers won the title. I mean, the NBA is a league in a history of dynasties, of dominant teams, of predictability. And I don't know what your historical comp would be if we crowned the Indiana Pacers. Yeah, the NBA is not a situation. where you see Cinderella's making runs through the playoffs, as you said. You know, in the 1980s, it was the Celtics and the Lakers trading it every year. And the one year between 1980 and 1988 that the Celtics or Lakers didn't hoist the trophy,

it was the Philadelphia 76ers with Julia Serving and Moses Malone. So you go to the 90s, right, the Bulls dynasty during that period. Akema Lajuan grabbing a couple of championships while, Michael Jordan was playing baseball, and we've seen it time and again, as you, as you said, whether you're talking about the early 2000s, L.A. Lakers, whether you're talking about the San Antonio Spurs dynasty. We just don't see it. Seven game series, five on five in the NBA, you know, the better team typically wins. And yeah, you might get a series upset here or there that takes your breath away. But to see a team like the Pacers, just navigate their way,

through the playoffs, as they have to this point, and find themselves up 1-0 in the NBA finals, regardless of how this thing plays out. It's rather extraordinary. I agree with you. Yeah. I don't want to do Mike Greenberg and start predicting how big of a dynasty is this Indiana Pacers team after a 1-0 lead. But I do find, let's be careful, we've been dismissive of the Pacers, we continue to be dismissive of the Pacers. And my brain goes to two teams, and I do not think there's as big a surprise this Pacer's team would be. and that's the Detroit Pistons of like whatever it is, is it 2004 and the Dallas Mavericks of 2011. But the Dallas Mavericks of 2011 are part of a bigger story.

And that is that going on for a while now, I guess the Mavericks were right before the Warriors dynasty. So, but after post-Warriors dynasty, I think we've had a different NBA champion for how many years in a row now. And so what it marks is a change in NBA. Like, pure, we're in the era of pure parity. We're in the era of no dynasties. In fact, if you like dynasties, I think your only real hope right now is the Oklahoma City Thunder. All right, but speaking of these dynasties, my producer tinfoil, Pat, Ricky, brought this up. And I think he has a very different opinion than I do.

And I'm going to bet that you do as well. so here's the question for you do you think you could pull a team from the past you can go with NBA or NFL whatever you would like old school team 70s 80s I'll even give you 90s and bring them forward into the future and they would be similarly dominant in their sport could the 70 Steelers step on the field and make a run in the NFL? Well, I think there are individual players from the NFL in the 70s, in the 80s, that would succeed in today's game.

Walter Payton, if you drop 1977 Walter Payton into the NFL this season, he'd probably run for close to 2,000 yards. But a team is a different proposition because these linemen today are so big. Any 1970s team, including the state. Steelers Dynasty. And I say this is the 70s guy, but you got to be honest about this. As much as I glorify these teams of my youth and as much genuine affection as I have for them, and as much as I believe that there are individual players who could succeed now, they would absolutely get pushed around at the line of scrimmage, and there would be no chance. Terry Bradshaw

wouldn't have a second to think about where he was going to throw the ball, because his line it would be dwarfed by every defensive line in the NFL. And then the same thing on the other side of the ball. Mean Joe Green, yeah, I mean, maybe Mean Joe Green with modern training would go out there and be a great player today. But in terms of going up against these 350-pound gigantic offensive linement that every team is rolling out there, I don't think in the NFL there's a hope in hell

that a team from the 70s or the 80s would be able to compete today. NBA, you look back, give me the 96 Bulls maybe, 72 and 10, Michael Jordan, they might, you know, if we dropped Rodman and Pippin and Jordan in the league today, it might be a different story. They would at least have a shot, but the NFL, no doubt in my mind. It's a non-starter. Okay, first on the NFL, yeah, I don't have it in front of me, but I think if you looked at the offensive line of teams from the 1970s, like you had an average of, let's call it 270 pounds of the starters on the offensive line. I mean, you would have had guys starting an offensive line that weighed like 250 and some that got up to like 290, maybe 300.

You don't have a guy under 300 anymore on an average NFL team. And it isn't that they're big, fat, slow guys. They are bigger, stronger, faster. And that puts me in this position, Ricky. I'm even skeptical that you can bring superstars from the old days and put them on the field today and they would be able to I would,

Earl Campbell has to be able to make a roster but he's not running over a guy's like he was in the 70s. He's just not going to. And I just don't, it's always more fun to argue for nostalgia. It's way more fun than to say, I'm sorry,

but Shea Gilgis Alexander would destroy the 80s and 90s, NBA, but it's true. If you look back, videos, and I've had some guys bring this out to me of like highlights from the NBA in the 90s, do you know how much more space they had to do whatever that? What, for example, Shea Gildes Alexander is doing in fractional and incremental amounts of space compared to what Michael Jordan had to deal with is a totally different game. Now, careful, careful. What are you

saying, Will, are you actually saying SGA is better than Jordan? No, I'm not. But I'm telling you everybody wants to say this is everybody's favorite argument it's softer what about the hard fouls from yesterday let me tell you something i don't think you can hard foul something you can't catch and i'm telling you it's so much faster today the the bigger stronger faster nature of human evolution as most pronounced in sports is simply the nature of sports like you're always looking for the guy. They were then, they are now. And the bottom line is now, everybody is bigger, stronger, faster than they were then. And so my argument is there is no team in any of those sports, including the 90s bulls that could step onto the field or the court today and

play with the, certainly the champions and maybe not even the average team of these respective leagues. And I'm doubtful, Ricky. I mean, you went with Walter Payton. I'd stick with Jordan. like I'd stick with Jordan because that one no it's like that one feels like sacrilege to say anything separate but I don't know you think Walter Payton on the field today would be a top five running back in the NFL I think he'd be the best running back in the NFL but that's Walter Peyton yeah well hold on do you know I really do we should look this up do you know what it What was Walter Payton's 40? Give me his size and, how big was Walter Payton?

I would love to know some stats to see how it translates. Well, I look at Marshawn Lynch, Derek Henry. I don't think those guys are necessarily superhuman and they're running over dudes. I think greatness, like transcendent greatness, I think can play in any era. And you've got to keep in mind, these guys from the old days, they didn't have the training methods that we have today. They didn't have the treatments. They didn't have.

They'd be better if they had access to the things that modern players have. So if we're going to pull him out of the 70s and 70s training methods and drop him from Bears training camp 1977 into the NFL, I'm not saying that's going to translate. But if you bring him in, Walter Payton, the gifts that he had, the work ethic that he had, and you gave him the same level playing field that all of these guys benefit from today, I think that greatness would play. Now, let me ask you a question, Will,

if Michael Jordan, let's say the 1996 Chicago Bulls, 72 and 10, regarded by many, is the greatest team in NBA history. If you brought that team to the modern time, now, what do you think the regular season record would be? basketball is so tough and this is nostalgia you're dealing with like myth and romance in my head but I remember having this debate on ESPN those teams versus the Golden State Warriors with Steph Curry and Draymond Green and Clay Thompson and Kevin Durant and I mean that

is legitimately not just one of the most dominant teams in NBA history but played basketball in modern-day equivalent the right way. You know what I mean? Like, they were smart, the warriors. They weren't just five dudes who tried to out athleticism. They could shoot. They moved off the ball. I don't know what the Bulls' record would be.

But I mean, look, Rodman and Pippen are going to do some Rodman and Pippin things. But you know what? That version of Draymond Green is pretty close to Dennis Rodman. Like, he might be better, quite honestly, than Dennis Rodman. And then, what, KD versus Scotty Pippen, Steph versus Michael Jordan? I'm just going with that Warriors team because that's the most recent vintage of that debate that I can think of. I don't know who I put my money on, Ricky. I think I might put it on the Warriors.

I think it's close. And the Warriors' advantages are obviously how much the game is. has changed. You bring the bulls into the league. They don't have the three-point shooting capabilities that we see today. The NBA has changed so much. To me, that complicates the question more than any other single issue is just how much the game has changed.

You know, 40% or whatever it is of field goal attempts or from three-point range, the bulls just weren't doing that. You go back to the 1986 Celtics, a team that went 50 and 1 at home. including the playoffs, a team that was stacked with Hall of Famers, right? Bird, McHale, Parrish, Dennis Johnson, and by the way, Bill Walton coming off the bench. This is a good thought experiment, to your point. Do you think those Celtics would come into the modern day NBA and dominate or even compete highly? The answer you know is no.

They're not. Listen, I have Bob Ryan on my program who knows more about basketball than just about anybody. Granted, we could argue that Bob was a little biased for the Celtics, given that they've been such a big part of his professional life. But Bob believes that the 86 Celtics could have beaten the best Warriors team in a seven-game series. Let's take a quick break. We'll continue this conversation with the host of the Ricky Cobb show, Ricky Cobb here on the Wilcane show. Listen to the all-new Brett Bear podcast featuring Common Ground,

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Take the quiz every day at thequiz.com. Then come back here to see how you did. Thank you for taking the quiz. Welcome back. We're still hanging out with the host of the Ricky Cobb show, Ricky Cobb. But okay, here's the thought experiment. Do you think the 70s Celtics? with Bill Russell and John, is it John,

who else was on that team? John Havlechek, I can't remember the, who the studs are. Yeah, Russell, yeah, Russell retired in 69, but yeah, Havlicek, those guys, yeah, 60s Dynasty, do you think those guys, Red Hourback years? Okay, take the 60s. No, I think. Would they?

Yeah, I don't think they would. I think Bill Russell would be a great player today, but no, I think, athletically, look, I absolutely agree with you. There is a cutoff point somewhere in the past with every team, every sport. And we can debate about where that cutoff line is, Will, but I agree with you that it's there. I don't think the 1927 Yankees could roll into the American League tomorrow and, you know, win their division by any means. So the question is, but you're exactly right. What is the cutoff point? Everybody would acknowledge a 60s team is vastly different.

Okay, an 80s team. We're talking about 40 years ago now, right? Do you think a, how about this? Do you think those 60 Celtics could have competed with the 90s bulls? I think you and I both know the answer is no. We would have said no. And part of it is the 30 years of advancement of the game and the player. Well, guess what?

We're further removed from those 80s Celtics today than those 90s bulls were from those 60s Celtics. So it's like in our minds because it happened in our. lifetime, we think, oh, those 80s Celtics or those 90s bulls, that was just yesterday. It was 30 years of advancement ago, right? So I don't know what that cutoff point is either, but I think we're probably on to something that 30 years ago is probably a lot of time that the whole game has changed and the players have changed. Look, it's changed a lot and the year slipped by, right?

I, you know, the year 1995 perpetually feels like it's about, you know, 15 years ago to me. And then I look back and I think, wait a minute, Seinfeld's been off the air for almost 30 years. How did that happen? And why do I have so much gray in my beard? So it sneaks up on us sometimes, right? I do agree with you on that regard. But hey, look, think about this Pacers team, right, that we're talking about, this plucky Pacers team that, you know, probably has no business being in the position they're in, but somehow they've gotten here. I don't know.

What do you think? Tyrese Halliburton and the 2025 Pacers against the 96 Bulls. Do we both agree that the Bulls would take care of them? But they're currently ahead of the, you know, in the finals. What about the Oklahoma City Thunder against the 96 Bulls? See, that's tougher because I actually think the Thunder are a really incredible team. Their incredible defensive team, people don't realize. The casual fan doesn't realize that because all you ever think about is offense, but they're an incredible defensive team. We'll see. The Thunder got to earn their way into that debate. Hey, speaking of time traveling then, Ricky, if you could go back in time and relive one championship, one run, one title, or even just one team that fell short but that captured your heart or one game, what would it be?

well for me the sporting event and i've thought about this one on more than one occasion will the the athletic spectacle that i most wish i could have been there in person to experience everything about it live as it happened is the rumble in the jungle zaire africa in 1974 when mohammed ali regained the heavyweight championship by knocking out george foreman that that is my personal pinnacle that's the one that i wish i could have breathed in the air experience the electricity that was going on that night with the with the crowd and see a real piece of history because i think that that is the greatest upset uh certainly in boxing people talk about buster douglas and mike tyson george foreman was a killing machine

there somebody on the level of buster douglas had no chance against george foreman and Muhammad Ali was probably the only person that could have pulled that off. And after seven years, after having his title stripped away from him to win it back, when nobody thought he could do it, I wish I could have been there. That's a good answer. See, when I was asked this question, I went back in my own life, not historical moments that I would have liked to have been a part of. And I'm probably of equal measure to you, nostalgic,

at least when it comes to the things that capture my heart. So it's probably going to come as no surprise. I mean, the 90s Cowboys are my childhood, my youth, my teen years, with my dad and my brothers. I remember being at the Rose Bowl for the first one when they blew out the bills and looking around, it felt like a who's who of celebrity. Speaking of Walter Payton, I saw him. I think I saw Sugar Ray Leonard.

I saw all these guys, you know, there. the 2011 Dallas Mavericks and for that matter of a similar vintage the 23 Texas Rangers were amazing championships because they felt like catharsis relief like hard-earned titles like all the suffering is finally paid off but the one that brings me brought me then and brought me the most joy probably since and I wasn't there in person so I'd love to go back is the 2005 Texas Longhorn Vince Young versus the USC Trojans, fourth and seven, running for the touchdown. I think that's the one I go back and relive.

Yeah, there's a real strong argument that that is, you know, maybe all things considered the greatest game in the history of college football. If I'm looking back at my own history as a fan, you know, I would go back to the summer that I fell in love with baseball, 1978. I turned seven that year, and the Yankees, coming from 14 games back, chasing down the Boston Red Sox, catching them, and then the, uh, Bucky F and Dent game, the one game playoff, the 163rd regular season game for both teams to settle that division.

And he puts one into the net over the monster. I was watching it on my, uh, 19 inch Zenith TV that my dad bought back in the, in the mid-70s. and that that that that summer and that team and then the Yankees going on and winning the world series that you know that lit the spark for me uh you know for a lifetime of being a baseball fan so to go back and experience that again would be pretty special for me to be in the to be there at Fenway park and see bucky dent put it into the the net i might have just descended into heaven will right at that moment

Okay, for the record, Walter Payton, 510, 200, 4-440, Marshawn Lynch, who you invoked, 511, 215-15, 4-440. Not that far apart, I would suggest that Marshawn Lynch's weight is probably undercounted, so he's a bigger dude than Walter Payton was, similar speed, and that's the nature of what we're talking about. I don't think that undercut your argument. I don't think that says Walter Payton wouldn't. I will say at 5-10-200, you're in the scat-back range. You're not in the power-back range in the modern NFL. Well, I don't know now. This is Walter Payton we're talking about.

And if Walter Payton played today, he would definitely have 10 or 15 pounds more muscle on him. It was a different expectation in that era. He didn't need it. You know, it's like when Holyfield bulked up to fight Larry Holmes. If Walter Peyton knew he was coming into this era, believe me, the training methods that we have now, it would be a bigger, stronger, faster Walter Payton, I think. Let's take a quick break. We'll continue this conversation with the host of the Ricky Cobb show, Ricky Cobb here on the Will Kane show.

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Every crime tells a story, but some stories are left unfinished. Somebody knows. Real cases, real people. Listen and follow now at Fox Truecrime.com. Welcome back. We're still hanging out with the host of the Ricky Cobb show, Ricky Cobb. All right, finally, last topic here with Ricky Cobb today. I spent last night watching Game 2 of the Women's College World Series.

Now, I don't really get into softball. A lot of people do, by the way. I think it rates pretty well, but I don't normally get into it, but my Texas Longhorns are there against the Texas Tech Red Raiders. My wife is from Lubbock. Her dad taught at Tech, so she was rooting for the, I don't even know if we call them the Lady Longhorns or the Lady Red Raiders anymore. I think we've dropped the Lady, which we shouldn't.

But it was the Longhorns versus the Red Raiders. Longhorns won game one. This was game two, and I watched Texas Tech's pitcher dominate last night to bring the series even for the final game tonight in the women's. College World Series. And what was fascinating about it was this pitcher for the Red Raiders. And her name is like Najari and Najah Kennedy. I think I've got it roughly right.

She pitched for Stanford, Ricky, for two years. Now she's with the Red Raiders. I read an article after the game. I don't know how much you know about it, but she's getting pretty well known. She makes a million dollars a year at Texas Tech. Texas Tech, by the way, has something called the Matador Club, and they have decided to go all in. Everybody thinks it's just football.

they've got the number one transfer portal class in the country this year in college football. But they didn't just go in on football. They're going in on everything. They want to win everything. And the guy that started the Maddor Club, one of the co-founders, he's got Double Eagle Oil Company. He's hugely rich. He's actually, he was rumored along with Nick Saban to be part of President Trump's commission on college football and so forth. But I just found it pretty fascinating, A, how good that game was and how good she is,

is and b how much texas tech has gone in on all sports and what is it sustainable what happens when the house comes to a settlement does it undercut it um and i just and see like what you're willing to pay for when it comes to softball fascinating the whole thing is just is is fascinating because we only ever talk about this when it comes to football but it could be it's like it's everything including women's sports like softball i mean we're on our way to college sports, being professional sports, it already is if you're a football player. It already is if you're a big time college hoops player, men's, the men's game anyway. But Ricky, there's no women's softball pro.

Like, there's no place to go from there. Right. So isn't it interesting that on some of these sports, the peak of your earnings capability will be rich guys at certain schools that want to dominate a sport that has no revenue? Yeah, I mean, you're going to, you're going to sock away, you know, your nest egg when you're in your late teens and early 20s for a lot of these student athletes look I don't know how profitable softball is to these colleges I don't know what the financial calculus is if it's just if it's just a matter of we want the bragging rights

of dominating everything and we believe there's value in that then I suppose that that's a decision that they're free to make I don't know if other colleges and universities are going to follow that model. If I'm, if I'm an AD somewhere and I'm looking at, you know, the landscape, you know, I mean, how many millions of dollars are you going to pump into any sport that doesn't generate any money for you? You know, how much appetite do you have for that? The answer is that Texas Tech makes no, and I don't think anybody does, makes no money on

softball. They lose money on softball. And you're right, it becomes, until we get this thing figured out, The most important recruit of any program is the billionaire recruit that's going to fund your sports. That's the most important recruit of any program. That's a great point. That's a great point. The person that has the bottomless pile of money, that's the person that's the person that's going to be more instrumental.

The athletes come and go. You get somebody there that's willing to fund things. You're absolutely right. That's the key individual in all of it. And it could be. It could be everybody needs to get used to Texas Tech in whatever sport. All right, Ricky Cobb. Check them out at the Ricky Cobb show at Outkick.com and subscribe to the newsletter at Ricky Cobb rewind.

Ricky, it's always great to talk to you. Thanks for being on with us. Well, it is always a pleasure, my friend. Look forward to seeing you next time. All right. Thank you, Ricky. There you go. I hope you enjoyed that conversation with Ricky Cobb.

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