Will Cain Country - Trump’s Trade Deal Delivers — A Hard Reset On U.S.-China Relations (ft. Joey Jones)

Episode Date: May 12, 2025

Story #1: U.S. and China edge toward a trade deal, pushing markets into the green. India and Pakistan agree to a ceasefire — is Ukraine-Russia next? We’re joined by our friend Fox News contributor Joey Jones and the author of Behind the Badge to break it all down. Story #2: Trump targets Big Pharma — and two Democrats storm an ICE facility in New Jersey. Why does the Left always rally around someone other than Americans? Story #3: Cowboys draft grades, the George Pickens trade, and a promise fulfilled at the crawfish boil.   Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, a weekend of action. The last living U.S. hostage in Gaza, Eden Alexander, set to be released today, China and the U.S., headed for a trade deal, heading markets north into the green. India and Pakistan ceasefire, and next could be Ukraine. and Russia. Only Trump attacks Big Pharma. We break it all down with the author of a brand new book, Behind the Badge, our friend, Joey Jones. Two, Democrats' Storm and Ice Detention Center in New Jersey.

Always rallying, always rallying around someone other than Americans. Three, the Cowboys Grades of the draft and the trade for George Pickens, a request in fulfilling a promise. Promises made, promises kept from the crawfish boil here on The Wilcane Show. every day jump into the comments section and you are a member of the willisha make sure you subscribe on apple or on spotify and if you think it's so well deserved leave us a five star review hope you had a great weekend happy mother's day out there we're back together two days dan back from texas into the familiar confines of the northeast into new york city almost converted

him dan did you buy a pair of boots before you headed back to new york you were threatening. You had a Lucchese store in the lobby of your hotel. Did you buy boots? I might have been on the website the entire time we did that live show, but that's neither here nor there. I stopped at the Lucchese store. It was very expensive. So I might have to go a step down from them, but I was pretty pretty sold on Dallas and Texas. So you might make this Northeast Connecticut boy, Texas boy someday. Nice. We got to get you the right boots. And then when you get the right boots, the key is the problem is you got to get the right jeans. Those are a combo pair.

You can't be wearing your Brooklyn hipster jeans. Those little tight pants you wear with boots. No, you got to figure out. A whole new bottom half wardrobe if you start going with boots. And we would have a lot of suggestions for you here, consider. Not just consider myself. I think I'm objectively an expert in boots and footwear. So when we go down that path, I'll help you out.

We have a big show here for you today. There's a big news all over the weekend. I mean, I can't believe the number of things that have happened. happened in the last 24 hours and over the last 72 hours of this weekend, 48, starting on Friday. It seems like across the globe as President Trump boards a plane to head to Saudi Arabia, deals are falling into place. Right as he leaves, he launches a brand new deal, potentially going after the high price of drugs in big pharma. Incredible sound. I'm going to have two a day to see if he can find it here where he's talking about big pharma.

and he brings up ozimic he talks about some friend of his i mean he describes him as a friend who he said is very fat very fat very overweight and is on the fat drug the fat shot as he calls it and says it's not working but the guy called him from london and said hey why is ozimic eighty eight dollars in london and thirteen hundred dollars a month in america he launches his war today on big pharma but let's get into all of it with Story number one. Joey Jones is the author of a brand new book Behind the Badge. It's his second book with Fox Books.

This one focuses on answering the call to serve on America's home front. It's about policemen and firefighters and the stories of their lives, some of whom Joey knows personally, in their call to serve. Joey, what's up, man? I want to talk about that with you here today, but I also want to work through what is a big weekend of news. But how are you? What are you doing? Are you sitting outside?

Is this your new fancy Fox background? So you like that, don't you know how fancy it is? I air dropped it to an iPad that's called Pete Higgs-S iPad, is the name of it, and pulled this picture up in the background. So I got a little bit more technologically advanced today. That's my, I have a football field on the back of my property. It kind of came with it. I didn't pay for it.

It's just there. And so I need to show it off, and nobody ever seen it. sees it, so we'll put it as a background. The magic of television. It's a television screen, probably about a 96-inch monitor behind Joey that he's made to look like a background. Why is your iPad called Pete Hegg-Sess iPad? Because Joey Jones doesn't get the Will-Kane budget, Will.

I don't have it. It's a 77-inch, not a 96-inch, and I had the Begg-Still and Barrow pieces. The camera and everything came from Haraldos Beach House. So all the boxes showed up and Harald's Beach House. So it's Beg-Still and Barrow. man that's what it is yeah they repurpose your home studios that shows what happens when it's over when it's over and you're not at fox anymore they come they tear it down and they send it joey joe and she's got the remnants of pete egzette and haroldo rivaire in that home studio uh all right man it's good

to have you here today i got about five stories i think we need to work through and they've all broken in the past really in the past day and they're happening all across the world let's start on the on the economic front, Joey, let's start on the talks that there is an American and Chinese trade deal coming together. Markets have rallied. They're up about a thousand points throughout the day, up over 42,000 in Dow Jones Industrial Average. They're excited without the framework or the details necessarily. There are talks that the 145% tariff on China will be dropped to roughly about 30%. So we do have a little bit of detail. But I saw this tweet, joy that caught my attention. It's by a guy named

Joe Wiesenthal. He goes by the stalwart on X. Tweet's about economic news. He says, the two biggest losers today. One, people hoping for a Trump-led economic catastrophe. Two, members of the big chess party who thought the tariff announcement was some

brilliant strategic plan that would reshape the global economy in a way that was beneficial to the United States. He kind of threads the needle there on saying, whatever this deal is, it undercuts the cheerleaders on both sides. What do you make of the potential for a deal between the U.S. and China? This stuff is, it's not like you need to be a finance major to understand it because it does

affect, like there are a lot of people that have small businesses that rely on China the source their goods. I think that one thing we need to understand is we're never going to bring things like clothes back to the United States. There's just no way to produce those things in a way that fits our economy. It would be a complete, we'd have to hit dire straits, really, to be able to manufacture some things here in this country. We'd have to be desperate. And that's just, that is what it is. People that make t-shirts and clothing, it's just almost impossible to have something that blue-collar people can afford and make it here. I go above and beyond and spend a lot of money, actually, to get some of my suits made here in this country for that purpose, just to

support manufacturing here. But that's not something everybody can afford. So I like the fact that he calls kind of both sides and says, listen, we're not going to be able to completely reshape this. But the truth is, our economy is 70% service-related, which means up to 70% of our GDP could go away if we couldn't afford the conveniences that we pay for, the things we pay other people to do for us. So the need to bring manufacturing back here is huge. And I hope that is a part of the Trump economic plan. I think the tariffs and China specifically, you've got to swing big to get little gains. And I think Trump understands that.

Maybe real estate deals is why he understands that? I don't know, but you've got to go massive. I mean, 145% tariff to wake China up because the detail and the win is in the fine print because I can't remember who was quoted in the article I just read. They said that the U.S. expects and is pressuring for non-monetary hurdles for U.S. exports in China to be cleared. And so it's things like China may mandate that to be a company moving some of its product into China, they own some of it.

China is set up, a lot of people don't understand this. It is a communist country in most of China, but then you have these little enclaves called capitalist economic zones, and these are your bigger cities, and it's basically where you go tour if you're a tourist. And in those areas, there's a miniature capitalist system that operates there. That's why American companies can partake in their economy, but there's a lot of Chinese government oversight and control. And so what are these non-monetary hurdles and blockade?

that they're talking about and how are they being mitigated? That might be the meat and potatoes of any kind of deal. Because the truth is, a few months ago, there was a zero percent tariff on U.S. goods going to China. But the Trump administration and many in government would say it was still an incredibly expensive thing to do because of those non-monetary blocks and hurdles. So what are they and how are we mitigating them through this deal? And I would say there was other non-monetary issues to be dealt with through a negotiation with China. Like, what are we going to get done? when it comes to, for example, fentanyl. Like, are we going to see some participation

with the Chinese Communist Party to control the export of fentanyl to places like Mexico to be pressed into pills and shipped to America? That's also an issue when it comes to India, which is also in the trade negotiation pipeline. Yeah, I think the thing you said that really resonates with me the most

is anyone that's ever paid attention to Donald Trump or, for that matter, understands pretty much the blueprint for a hard negotiator is maximum ask compromise in the middle when it's done so 145% wasn't sustainable yet now was it designed to hurt china yes and and to bring them to a pressure point yes and there are indications that that was happening inside the chinese economy we've seen stories and details about chinese plants and worker strikes already beginning to take place but that's designed to bring them to the to the table it isn't designed as you point out to be making nikes in america i i think

And I can't envision what this all looks like. And I'm not sure the Trump administration can, but you set the playing field. You deregulate. You lower taxes. You create foreign investment in the United States, which we've seen a ton of that. And you hope that the next manufacturing boom is in Louisiana and not in Beijing. You hope that when there's AI data centers, AI houses, AI warehouses, AI plants, whatever it is that is the next economy is centered here. And hopefully, along with that, is something.

semblance of jobs. Now, we may not ever recoup the jobs of when we were, you know, making everything in America, tires and steel and shoes and shirts and everything, but we can't go backwards. We can only position it forwards and think what manufacturing looks like going forward. So if we're at 30%, there's one more thing. With Trump on any of these deals, you can't critique a meal while the chef is cooking. You have to wait to the end, right? And that's the nature of news, that's the nature of politics. Yeah. And that's the nature of sports, right, anything.

And honestly, that's part of the fun. But it all in the end is worthless commentary if what we end up with at the end of the meal is something very different. And in this case, I just watched a terrible movie, Joey. Terrible. Would not advise it. Try to have a family movie. And the only reason I watched it is because Vince Vaughn was in it. And he still retains the, oh, Vince Vaughn's in this.

I think I want to watch this. It's called Nona's on Netflix. and it's about like these Italian grandmas that he has this restaurant concept around. And there are recipes, but like there's scenes in the movie. And again, I think stick in my head doesn't mean it's a good movie. Like, how much of this do you use? She goes, it comes from the heart. What I'm getting at is like how an Italian grandma kind of cooks on the fly from the heart.

I'm not sure Trump knows the complete recipe. And I'm not sure he has a grand vision. So we don't know what the meal will look like, but we do know that we're in the midst of the making of the meal as we speak. And I'm not sure it does totally undercut the big chess vision of trying to reimagine the U.S. economy. No, I think you're absolutely right. I think small gains go a big way in our government. I mean, really, this is a tactic that the Democrats use. And let me give you an example.

If Republicans want to spend zero more dollars on the budget and the Democrats want to spend $500 billion on. the budget. And the narrative is we expect them to find compromise. The Democrats just ask for another trillion. If you've got zero and a trillion, what is in the middle? 500 billion Democrats win. That's why in the government shutdowns of old when it was Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell, it seemed like the Republicans would always lose because the Democrats had a playbook for that. It seems like Trump is using a similar playbook on these other countries. Hey, you don't want to give us anything? That's fine. I'm going to shut down everything or ask for everything. and then we'll see where you go.

And has it worked on China? I mean, sometimes you can manufacture a crisis and then also manufacture the win to that crisis. So like if we went back to February before any of this tariff trade war started, technically we were in a better place. Our tariffs on them were lower and their tariffs on us were zero. But what are those unspoken or undefined wins? Are they doing something on fentanyl? Have we at least, is there other pressures that this is?

brought to them that's tampering maybe their cyber attacks and some of the other things, the intellectual property that they seem to steal without disregard. Are there other things that the Trump administration has an eye on and is getting out of this and use this very public trade war to get their attention? That's my hope and my thought. I don't think it's chess. I think it's common sense. And that's why people voted for Trump because he speaks in common sense terms.

Let's hit a couple of different pieces of news and flashpoints across the globe that were notable over the weekend. Indian Pakistan, who were probably best described going beyond the skirmishes of the past 80 years, looked like they were kind of pressing towards war over Kashmir. It's obviously a very scary proposition because they're both nuclear powers. This weekend, it was announced they accomplished a ceasefire. At the same time, Joey, there's talk that this week, Zelensky will sit down or plans to or is willing to engage in a sit down with Vladimir Putin. This is Trump heads overseas.

This is two big flashpoints wars that we would love to see come to peace. And it's a big step forward in both instances, Joey. Absolutely it is. with Pakistan and India, I'd say most Americans aren't really well-versed on that. And I'd say that I'm not to the extent that I need to be giving expert analysis on it. But I'll tell you this, Pakistan is not someone you can ever trust. And India depends. And so I'd say we probably have a little bit better relationship with India than we have in a while.

I know that J.D. Vance has a good relationship with leadership there. But we don't need another war breaking out. We don't need another war that we've either got to pick aside or are married to a side and have to back it whether we want to or not. So for me, it's more about where does President Trump lead on that because that's the first one that has happened under his watch. All the other ones that we're dealing with right now, he inherited. And he only inherited from Biden.

He didn't hand them to Biden. They didn't exist from 2016 to 2020. They exist now. We're talking Israel. What's happening with the Houthis? I mean, we haven't even talked about that because that's old news now. Our own ceasefire with the Houthis. And then what's happened in Ukraine and Russia?

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Meanwhile, Trump posted this on Truth Social, Joey, about the release of Adon-Edon Alexander, the last living American hostage in Gaza. He says, I'm happy to announce that Edon Alexander an American citizen who has been held hostage since October of 2023 is coming home to his family. I'm grateful to all those involved. and making this monumental news happen.

It's a step in good faith towards the United States and the efforts of its mediators, Qatar and Egypt. To put an end to this very brutal war and return all living hostages that remain to their loved ones. Hopefully this is the first of those steps necessary to, in this brutal conflict, I look very much forward to that day of celebration. It should be that that day might be today, Joey. Yeah, this is big news.

I mean, it's bringing an American home. And that's what the Trump administration has done for the last three, four months. I mean, we've seen Americans come home from a lot of places that we didn't expect. We wake up one morning there's a headline of someone. Many Americans did know it was trapped somewhere and imprisoned somewhere. But in Gaza, especially with the politics that have surrounded Israel's offensive in Gaza, there were moments where we didn't think we'd ever get another American home because that's the only point of leverage. It seems like Hamas has.

And it seems like now that they are very desperate. So perhaps Israel, maybe they were right. all along that you have to meet fire with fire. I think that's absolutely true. I hope that the entire war there comes to an end, because there are innocent people. There are innocent people that identify as Palestinian. There's not a Palestine.

There never was since Israel was created. But there are people that live in Gaza that are Palestinian and have suffered tremendously because Hamas started this war. We wanted to come to an end, but the most important thing to me is that Americans are brought home and kept safe. That is our responsibility. And I'm glad to see the Trump administration picking that responsibility up and saying it out loud.

Yeah, that will be, that will be a moment. I mean, I don't know who will get the interview with Edon Alexander. Of course, I would love to on the World Cain Show, but, I mean, to hear about what the last two years have been like, year and a half have been like for Eden and Alexander would be incredible, incredible. I mean, torture. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we need to hear those stories.

We absolutely need to hear exactly what that was like in Gaza. Let me bring back in two days, Dan, here for a moment. So during the middle of the show, we communicate often by text. One of my bosses said, Will, it's interesting how you're often on your phone when you do the Will Kane show. I'm like, well, I'm not like bored. We text and we control a lot of the show and the elements by text. And I got a text from Dan, as you and I were talking, said, you are so wrong. It's so good.

At first I was like, is he talking about the U.S. China trade deal? It's so good. And then I realized he's talking about this movie on Netflix that I just talked about. Donus. Dan, you're here you're here to stand for Onus? I am, man. It was so good. My wife and I watched it on Saturday. I back it so hard.

Come on. It was heartfelt. It had the grandma angle that great food to look at. Oh man, I loved it. My mom hated it too, but I loved it. You know why? Here's why we watched it. I'll give you three reasons. We wanted a family movie. Now, I

I'll be interested to see with Joey how he feels about this because he's actually been in action, you know, but I can't explain it, but action, action's relaxing for me, Joey, like thrillers and violence. I can't explain it, and I'm not here to say it's good or bad, but, like, mob movies. You don't have to, like, figure it out. You know, that's what it is. Yeah. You don't have time to try to figure it. You sit there and watch. You're being entertained. That's all it is. So, like, Den of Thieves. Love it. Mobland. Love, uh, it's Mobbland. Yeah, with Tom Hardy. watching that love it the last of us i'm watching that i really like it but i can't my wife is the opposite she's like i don't want to hear gunfire and and all of this like before i go to bed she's like

i'll have insomnia i'm like i'll sleep like a baby this'll this'll i will totally zone out that's what is for me i totally zone out i don't scroll my phone i don't do anything i zone out on those types of movies so but we needed a family movie today so this looked like a family movie one Two, Vince Vaughn. Still in on Vince Vaughn. Three, you're right. The food and the preview look good. And four, I'll give you a fourth.

They had that Billy Joel song in the preview. And boy, they know how to do previews. Oh, yeah. Bottle of red, bottle of white. You know, and I'm like, okay, this looks like this will be a nice hour and a half. And Dan, come on. It's not compelling. It's not funny.

But it's based on... It's not good. It's based on a true story. There's a real restaurant in Staten Island. The whole thing is true. It happened. And I feel like you have to have experienced an Italian known as cooking in real life to kind of get that full experience and immerse yourself in that movie.

I mean, I've had good Italian, but Joey and I come from the South. And that's not really... Italian was like Pizza Hut growing up. I bet it's kind of like... Yeah, it was. Blogbuster and a Pizza Hut. I mean, that was Friday night. That was spending big money when I was growing up.

going out. Like, mom and dad, we go to Blockbuster, then we go across street to Pizza Hut, and that was an Italian dinner and entertainment, man. I'm telling you. Yeah. Cheese bread, cheese sticks, get some chicken wings. Oh, boy, it was fancy when we went to city, went down closer to Dallas and got some Olive Garden. Then we were really rocking and rolling with some Italian. Listen, though, Olive Garden in the 90s, Olive Garden in the 90s was a lot better than Olive Garden. Now, all these young kids that talk trash about Olive Garden, they used to make the pasta there. It used to be a lot better food. I know it wasn't homemade food. It's like when

when your Northeasterers think that the Cracker Barrel is how we cook down here, and it's like, no, it's not bad, but that's not how we cook. But it is pretty good. Don't dogg on Cracker Barrel. It's pretty good. I said it's not bad. It's just, it's not how we cook. You know how we cook? You know what I did this weekend, Joey. We had a big crawfish boil. I'd say about 200 people. 100 people, at least 100 people. And, um, Joe, do you know Daryl Dodd? Do you know the country singer, Daryl Dodd? He was there.

He's friends. No, I don't. You ever heard, uh, things are fixing to get real good or Pearl Snaps or my, my Tony llamas? Um, these are songs, you'd like, things are fixing to get real good. Daryl was there. Daryl played a little bit. But we did 200 pounds of, of crawfish and, uh, you know, potatoes and corn and all that.

and it's such a great, it's back in my hometown, you know, and when I'm at things like that, that's when I was like, Dan came to Texas last week and he was like in downtown Dallas. I'm like, that's great, but like this is where I wish you were. We're out in a field with a gigantic pot of crawfish. That's right. The first thing I told him was Fort Worth is better than Dallas.

I mean, you would at least, like as far as a visiting experience, you would agree with that, right? Like, you know, the stockyard. Yeah, probably. Like it feels more Texas, you know what I mean? Not better as in if you're living in one or the other because there's a big rivalry, but just as someone who's visiting the area. But the other thing, too, I wanted to ask.

So if you're telling him his first pair of cowboy boots need to be Lucases, then chances are you don't suck the heads on your crawfish either, right? Like that's a little bit too redneck. One out of every five. One out of every five. Can't get too much of that. Okay, okay. A little bit more legitimacy here then.

I mean, if you're going to buy your first sports car, you might as well get a Ferrari. I mean, that's fair. That's Lucchise. I get it. They're great boots. I wouldn't want to get them dirty, though. So I need dirty. Let me tell you something, Dan, I buy my wife Lucases, and then I wear, like, Justin's, maybe like Ticova's, if I'm going to go way up above and beyond. But my boots, I've got to be able to, like, you know, I'm rough on stuff.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I can't take those ostracist. You have your dress boots, you have dress boots, and you have pasture boots. All right, one more question for you, Joey, on movies before we go back to the news. I'm seeing this movie preview, and I kind of want to watch it, and my son said to me, he brought it up. So I'm like, oh, which at this point, my son, who's 17, if he starts saying he's interested in something, it's good, all of a sudden I'm like, whoa, maybe this is, I'm on to something. Have you seen this movie warfare or heard about this movie warfare? I've heard about it for a while.

People have asked me about it for a month or two. Oh, I'm curious what you should have to say. It's about a SEAL team in Iraq who gets pinned down. But what everybody's saying about it is it's not Hollywood-ed up. Like, it is a, I don't know, non-glamorous, visceral portrayal of warfare. You know, and I don't know. You know, like, people said that about the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan as well when it came to storming the beach of Normandy.

I haven't watched it, but I haven't watched Warfare. I've watched Saving Private Ryan, obviously, but I kind of want to. I'm going to have to do without my wife, but I was just curious if you agree with what I'm hearing about it, that it's kind of like, yeah, the closest portrayal. I don't know. I'm going to have to watch it. I mean, so I had a personal connection to Lone Survivor, American Sniper, 12 Strong. I had friends either involved in making the movie or friends that were portrayed in the movie.

So I went to those premieres and watched them, and there were moments in them that were, you could see all the Hollywood, and there were moments in them that were pretty raw and real. I've heard the exact same thing you've heard about this warfare. I've had a lot of people with credibility say, hey, I saw a premiere in D.C., I saw a premiere here, and they really haven't described it to me, just said how good it was. I'll probably end up watching it. I mean, I took some time off from those movies for a little while, one, because so many of them came out so quickly. And two, like, you know, every now and then you've got to get your mind out of that.

and, you know, it's okay to just live life today. I'll tell you, you know, just since you're on this topic, the movie that a lot of people bring to me is like Hurt Locker, and it's the best way I can explain to you my thoughts on these. Yeah, and it's like Hurt Locker is a movie. I think it's fantastic. I really do. And let me explain to you why.

The things that happen in Hurt Locker, the things that actually make my butthole pucker, like actually make me worry that I'm going to die with this bomb, you would never understand it because you don't understand what, like it's quiet, there's no action around, I'm going to put my hands into this dirt. And if that's a pressure release instead of a pressure switch, the moment I put my hands in there and clear the dirt, I'm blown up. There's no way to portray that to you without sight and sound and making it over the top.

So they go to Hurt Locker and they make these scenarios over the top so you can feel that intensity that I feel when everything seems peaceful but is about to explode, literally. And I think war movies are like that. Like, it's not that Hollywood's trying to go over the top. It's that you're seeing it, you know, almost in two dimensions. You're not being, you're not able to smell it and taste it and feel that pressure of I May Die. So they have to blow things up in a way that makes you understand the severity of the situation. And so I'm, I'm anxious to see this movie because I want to see how they did it.

Maybe there's more first person point of view. I'm not sure, but that's what was really good about lone survivor was you, you felt like you were Marcus A Trail sometimes, like with the way they did the camera. They used one of those small red cameras when they first came out. And so, like, with the advent of technology, we're going to get first, we're going to be in video games with movies before too long. That's really what it is.

We're going to be able to decide which way we look in a movie. Like, that's where we're going. And so combat movies are going to be the first ones that take us there. So, obviously, for anyone that doesn't know, Joey knows what he's talking about. He's a Marine EOD, so Hurt Locker, basically, you know,

is the closest we've seen from a movie, portraying what he did for living. And I loved Hurt Locker, of course, what do I know? But, you know, Joey, I remember I did an interview about a year ago, probably with David Belavia won Medal of Honor, and him talking to me about those moments when he cleared that building, the instance that got him the Medal of Honor, you talking about it being movies in two-dimensional, and of course, of course. Like, I almost feel like we need to say this, but it's, yeah, of course movies.

don't approximate what you guys have experienced. But talk about that three-dimensional sense. I remember David telling me on this show, like the smell of blood. Like, it's like you can smell blood. And he's like, it's actually, he's like, smell is one of the senses in war that you can never get in a movie that is actually a huge factor. Like he's like, he was cleared in that building. Of course, he didn't know when he went room to room if there was a guy.

But he said, I could smell a guy. I could smell that he hadn't taken a bath. or whatever, in the next room, or I could smell blood if there was a guy that was injured. And, like, that three-dimensional nature, of course, of life, but that is enhanced in war is what you're talking about. And I imagine we could never capture. We had this phenomenon. Every time I blew something up or got blown up, I could taste sulfur inside my mouth. And I've never had to, been able to talk to somebody. I don't know if it was from the explosion because it's a part of, there's so many chemicals, like most of those chemicals

are like ammonium nitrate and a fuel oxidizer, like maybe diesel fuel or maybe even aluminum powder. So there was a lot that was put into the air that you could probably taste. But the other side of it was, was the concussion into my mind, basically the miniature concussion I got every time I blew something up, was that actually where the taste was coming from? And I've never had a chance to talk to maybe a brain scientist about that. But there was kind of we all hypothesized in one direction or the other that, you know, some guy said, hey, I can taste, that's ammonium nitrate, that's info. And the guy, I know that's anal, I can taste it.

And my suspicion was always, no, it's the damn shockwave that just went through your head that's exciting your different senses. But it's absolutely true. And if you ever read David Belavilla's Medal of Honor Citation, it's one of the most raw and, like, straightforward ones I've ever heard. I mean, he literally decided, like, he has to go to a knife instead of a gun to kill these people so that it doesn't make the other person in the next room aware. He's slipping and sliding on the blood of the person that he's killing. It's insane. The reason why he got the

Medal of Honor. But it's the type of combat you see in saving private Ryan. And that's what makes it so stand out because our war was bombs. That was our war. All right. Meanwhile, back to the news. This big weekend for Trump now has been extended to this weekend or to this morning when he suggests he's going to take on prescription drugs and bring down the price of prescription drugs. And Joey, this moment that I referenced earlier is the money, the money sound, of course, that could only come from Donald Trump. Watch. I mean, I'll tell you a story. A friend of mine who's a businessman, very, very, very top guy. Most of you would have heard of him. Highly neurotic, brilliant businessman, seriously overweight, and he takes

the fat shot drug. And he called me up, and he said, President, he used to call me Donald, now he calls me President, so that's nice respect, but she's a rough guy, smart guy, very successful, very rich. I wouldn't even know how we would know this, but because he's got comments. The president, could I ask you a question? I'm in London. And I just paid for this damn fat drug I take. I said, it's not working. He said, he said, I just paid $88. And in New York, I pay $1,300. What the hell is going on? And I'll tell you. There he is, talking about the price of a Zimpik, which, by the way, we've done that story on both the television and digital versions of this of this program yeah it's not working um i assume they're good friends the kind of friend

that you can say that to um and it's crazy like ozimic and wagovi and all these drugs are so expensive over here and so comparatively cheap over in europe now i don't know joey what president trump can do can do and we're going to spend the day figuring this out but like what he can do mark cuban's debating that it's the middleman in the prescription drug market that are actually the one's jacking up the price, but how we can bring prescription drugs to down. And I'll tell you something, Joey, I'm fortunate. This isn't a big part of my life. I don't have a lot of needs when it comes to pharmaceuticals. I don't take them. It's pretty removed from my life. I know for a lot of Americans, that's just not the case. We know how many Americans are taking prescription

drugs. No, I think there's two, there's multiple layers. It's number one, we live in a country where the medical field in this country treats symptoms, not causes. That's why we have such a dependency on pharmaceuticals. Hey, your blood pressure is high. Let's give you nitro to bring your blood pressure down. Not let's solve why your blood pressure is high. It's just kind of, that's the way our medicine works. And I think that's part of the RFK phenomenon is now that information is available.

People care and they look and are like, hey, you know, some of this may be good or bad, but it's like, I'm going to treat myself in a way they were doing it a thousand years ago rather than in this way that says treat the symptom. I think that's a, maybe that'll drive at least some competition. But as far as these prescription drugs go, the way the government can interfere in how this price setting happens is the government can say we pay for 28% of all drugs and we do it with Medicare, Medicaid, and other programs. And we're going to tell you we're not paying more than a certain amount for these

prescription drugs. And so the reason why a lot of people are saying we're not sure if the president has much power is what power does the president have to tell a private company what they can charge a private company, meaning like an insurance company, for a product. And so I don't know what that is. I'm not in that part of our government. But I think the fact that he's at least talking about it and that there are some levers he can pull that may be challenged legally, but in the interim help people out a little bit. I mean, that's what you want from your president. And also, just to go back to that soundbite, what this is is called an anecdote. He heard from somebody

what they are paying in their specific instance or a situation for something that millions of Americans are affected by. The more that we have access to information that's true and not true, the more I go back and rely more on anecdote than I do anything. You talk about statistical data? I mean, what did Mark Twain say? Stats and more lies. Every medical research study out there is paid for by somebody who has an interest.

So like, hey, two glasses of wine are good for you a day. Well, that was paid for by the American. wine grower, you know, great growers association. So the more that we realize statistical information really is, is full of lies, the more anecdote matters to me. This person I love and care about and know has had this experience. That matters. And I don't mind a president that gets some of his priorities from these anecdotes. That's actually talking to people, and that's more than most of them will do. That's a really interesting point. You do cover a lot of anecdotes. powerful anecdotes in your new book

behind the badge talking to first responders of every stride firemen, police it's answering the call to serve on America's home front and what compels these people to do this for a living

and some as you talk to I think it's a fireman, a firefighter that you know give up other opportunities, lucrative opportunities in life to do something else in business but choose to do to do this Yeah, just to tell you a little bit about it, the fireman you're talking about is my brother-in-law, Keith Dempsey. His dad lived across the street from Arthur Blank down on Paces Ferry in Atlanta, ran an advertising firm that was incredibly successful. Sent Keith to business school at the University of Georgia, like he says, like any good frat boy, he got a four-year degree in five years, but he graduated.

And so when he graduated, he went to his dad and said, dad, thanks for the education, but I want to go back and be a fireman like I've been working at in my summers and office. time since explorers in high school. He gave up financial wealth because he saw, because he's a very smart person, an opportunity to leave an impact in his community in his city as a fireman and now as a fire chief. And this book is full of people like that. I could go to FDNY and interview people that were there on 9-11 or at the Oklahoma City bombing and get some really compelling stories that would be easy to market and people would want to hear about. But the purpose of this book and the reason why I didn't do that is that these are people in Big Ten towns and small towns. These are people in the Baltimore County SWAT, a Northwood's main

game warden whose job was search and rescue to find people that had drowned, find people that had gotten lost. He actually had to use his weapon in the line of duty, and the only game warden never have to do it. Sheriff Mark Lamb out west, the things he did to keep young men out of jail and to help them reform their lives. My buddy Vince Vargas, who was Border Patrol Search and Rescue after being an Army Ranger. He's a Mexican-American. And just the way that he experienced racism from the Mexican side. Hey, who are you? You're turning on your people kind of thing. He's like, no, I'm an American is what I am, and we have laws here. And to just go through the compassion and the turmoil, my buddy Justin Heflin, Indiana State Trooper,

we went to war together in Afghanistan as Marine EOD Techs. He becomes an Indiana State Trooper inspired by his dad, who was a Marine and a cop. He's on a patrol one night. As a trooper gets a call to a fatal vehicle accident, turns his car around, heads that way, a kid speeds by him. So he has to pull that kid over. By the time he finishes that stop, he's no longer going to the fatal accident, come to find out the fatal accident was his dad. And just the way that God works in our lives and the way these individuals have seen the worst, will the absolute worst that we do to each other and the worst that happens to us, and do they keep doing it for 20 years or 30 years. In combat, our trauma hits us in the face. It's all at once. It happens

in six months. We come home. For these guys and gals, their battlefield is what they live in every day. They go through an intersection to take their kids to school that they scrape the kid up off the pavement last week. And to get inside their minds on how they make sense of that and how it doesn't turn them into just this benign zombie of a person because they all have passions and they love their family and they still care. You can learn a lot from them. And there's a lot I learned from talking to all of them and writing about their story. How do they, after writing this book and talking to so many different people, on firefighters, policemen, border patrol, SWAT, it is a great question.

The callousness caused over years can make you a cynic or a misanthrope. Maybe that's a good word for it, you know? I mean, I'm not saying it does. You could see how it would or could do that. like you said, constantly seeing negativity and the worst of people. That's how life works, right? Like, my dad was a plaintiff's attorney, right? Small town plaintiff's attorney.

A lot of our conversations and the way that he saw the world was through, like, liability and the worst that could happen. He would tell me stories about hunters, hunters, you know. Every time I hunt, Joey, do you know what I think about? The little space heater, the propane space heater. Because my dad told me the stories about. the pilot light going out. And I always heard stories about the pilot light going out

and guys dying in a deer blind because it's filled up with, you know, gas. And I mean, I feel like those stories were always around me. And I don't walk through the world scared. And I probably just have a different mindset than him. But like, you know, you know something I never do? I don't ride motorcycles, Joey. Because my dad was like always telling me

the horrific stuff he saw from guys that rode motorcycles. Like a car wreck's bad. A motorcycle accident is horrific. So it's just like, whatever your life experience is just inform so much. And these guys, to your point, man, they see the worst on a day-in, day-out basis. I don't know how they do that psychologically. Well, to answer your question, your first question is how do they? And there's multiple answers to that.

Number one, some of them don't. And there's such a high suicide rate among police and fire specifically right now. it needs to be addressed. How does it get addressed? Well, for our military, we've had a 20-year national campaign that stems from Applebee's giving you a free meal to, you know, the secretary of the VA being more important than he's ever been on the country saying, hey, let's take care of our veterans and let's acknowledge the trauma they go through and the mental health crisis that's result from it.

We don't have anything like that for our first responders, and their trauma never stops. So how did they deal with it? They do it at a grassroots level. they do it inside the fire hall and they do it inside the precinct they do it on the swat team they do it among each other they're figuring it out for themselves and we just expect them to do it you know why we expect them to do it and why i can say that is because when my when your house catches on fire and when somebody hits you head on you expect them to be there to save your life to save your house to punish the person that hurt you to make things right again you you are entitled you walk around saying they will be there i pay taxes, they better come do that. What we never stop and think about is when we hear this story about three college kids in the Pacific Northwest being gruesomely murdered, who showed up to clean that up and to do that investigation? How many of those men that were in that house have a

young daughter in college somewhere? Like we don't even stop to connect those dots. But what we will do is not Fox so much, but some networks will report every time a cop has to pull his sidearm and use it in self-defense or to stop someone from hurting somebody else, and we want to sharpshoot every move they made. Every time that something negative happens, it blows out of proportion. But we don't have enough time of the day to talk about every time something heroic happens because that's just our worst days in life or another day on the job for them. And I'm not preaching and scolding people, but read about it, learn about it,

have some appreciation for it. I bring my own personal examples into it, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that my dad died in my house and I'm doing CPR on him. And one of the firefighters that responded to help keep his body alive for a day sees me a week later and comes up and says, hey, how's your dad doing? I said, now he didn't make it. And you just see that look on his face. Like, it overcame him. Like, man, I failed. But also, hey, that's just another day on the job. He might have had two other calls that day just like that. And just to go through some of these things. And this is not a rebuke of defunded police or a big back the blue. This is a raw, unfiltered conversation.

Some of these guys and gals have gotten through it. Quite honestly, some of them haven't, and they're honest about that. But to answer your question, every single one of them believes that their job is a mission and that that mission is more important than their own peace of mind. And that's quite a thing to know that there are people like that in this world. Yeah, that's incredible. Behind the badge, answering the call to serve. on America's Homefront. It's by Joey Jones. It's out now by Fox News Books, and I encourage you go check it out. Incredible stories. Incredible conversation, as always, Joey. Thanks for hanging out with us today. Thanks, brother. Good luck and everything you're doing, man. Okay.

All right, buddy. We'll see you soon. There you goes. Joey Jones. Get behind the badge. Coming up, Joey brought it up, by the way, when it comes to illegal immigrants a moment ago. Democrats stormed an ice facility on Friday in New Jersey bringing up a lot of questions and perhaps some really obvious answers when we come back on the Wilcane show. Hungry now. Now.

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Hey there, it's me, Kennedy. Make sure to check out my podcast. Kennedy saves the world. It is five days a week, every week. Download and listen at Fox Newspodcast.com or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. question why is it always champion non-american citizens why is it always or all too often something that resembles a riot why did democrats storm an ice facility in new jersey it's the will cane show streaming live at fox news dot com on the fox news youtube channel the fox news facebook page hit subscribe

at apple or on spot if you're watching the will cane show at four p m on friday you saw this three new jersey congressman one woman two men and the mayor of newark storming an ice facility shoving bullying pushing their way through a gate it's pretty incredible footage to see congresswoman la monica ivor absolutely shoving a ice agent all booted up and trying to protect a gate where a busload of illegal immigrants were being shipped into Delaney Hall in New Jersey to be delivered to this facility. These congressmen and women, and the mayor of Newark, suggested they were executing their congressional oversight.

Let's steal man this argument for just a minute. You know steel man is the opposite of straw men. Let's make their argument and take it in all seriousness as best possible. Congress does have oversight ability. Congress Stephen has spot oversight ability. You can show up to a federal facility, a government facility, and conduct an inspection. This is what they suggest they were doing. The court precedent and statutory limitations of congressional oversight read that it cannot be interfering with executive authority.

I don't think it's hard to look at this video and see what's being done here and say this is far beyond the scope of congressional oversight, even spot congressional oversight. and far beyond the bounds of interfering with executive authority. This is riotous. It is them pushing, shoving, past the fencing, the outer fencing of the facility. Doing so while a bus of illegal immigrants, detainees was being dropped off. This isn't a simple oversight. This isn't even a protest. Once it gets physical, now we're talking about a riot.

And these are elected members of Congress. Ask yourself this, easy, simple, common sense. Is this the right way to conduct? it like when you see that video if you haven't if you're listening on spotify or apple or on radio go watch the video ask yourself come on is that the right way to do this there's no attempt here as you hear the ambient sound if you're listening on radio or spotify or apple there's no attempt to do this in a coherent or organized fashion this is posturing this is grandstanding this is creating chaos and for what that's the

real question for what it's for people watching who see this as the modern american handmaid's tale drama is turning politics into max max is the streaming offering from hbo this is what they imagine themselves as and this is how they imagine america but the interesting thing is who are they serving in america illegal immigrants not american citizens how is it always they find themselves on the other side of championing people who have not elected them, should not, hopefully, have voted for them, and who are not citizens of this country. Last week, I met the Attorney General of the state of Oklahoma. He told a story about the illegal drug operations in Oklahoma, but there was part of the story

he told me about illegal immigration that I found pretty fascinating, which is that under the Biden administration, when they busted marijuana. or fentanyl facilities, the high-level members who were running the facility, members of the cartel, were arrested. But the lower level, also illegal immigrants, who were working the facilities, were local officials and ICE were told not to arrest them to give them a notice to appear in, say, Kansas city before a judge, an immigration judge, within a week or 10 days. Of course, they never, ever did.

And when they busted the next facility, sometimes 24 hours later, there were the same workers. There again, always let go. He said it changed overnight under Donald Trump. Everyone on site. Everyone is arrested and within 24 hours on their way to deportation. Why is this what Democrats are standing against? Why are these people the ones that inflame their passions? Why are these the ones that they fight for?

I don't accept that the answer is out of some type of principle. Oh, due process. Tom Home and ICE director was on Fox News where he said, this is due process. You detain someone while you process them in an immigration proceeding. So these Democrats are interfering with due process, not defending the principle of due process, and the human beings that they're not championing from Kimmar-Brego Garcia to these, which they said that people held at Delaney Hall, New Jersey, were some of the worst of the worst.

Why is this the flag now flown by Democrats? Well, I'll tell you this, the why we can all debate. The what will be left. This is an absolute, I believe, election loser for them. The American people do not want, will not want, to stand with Congresswoman La Monica Iver as she shoves an ICE agent around trying to break her way into a federal facility to champion illegal immigrants. I want to read you this bit from an article in The Athletic, which I really love as a sports website. It is owned by the New York Times, but it's about global soccer.

and championing, and you got to hear the words. That's why I want to read this to you day. The words and the rationale, men and women's soccer. Plus, what do I really think about the Cowboys Draft and George Pickens? Coming back on The Will Kane Show. I'm Janice Dean. Join me every Sunday as I focus on stories of hope and people who are truly rays of sunshine in their community and across the world.

Listen and follow now at Fox Newspodcast.com. Hey, I'm Trey Gowdy, host of the Trey Gowdy. I hope you will join me every Tuesday and Thursday as we navigate life together and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side. Listen and follow now at foxnewspodcast.com. In the UK, their courts suggested you will only be able to play sports according to your biological sex. And that's inspired a response from an Australian football player.

The Athletic. It is the Will Cane show streaming live at foxnews.com. Subscribe on Apple or on Spotify. The headline in The Athletic reads, Australia's Jackson Irvine, disappointed by men's football reaction to English ban on transgender women. This captain of the Australian men's national team,

Jackson Irvine, is disappointed. And not just the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom, but men's soccer player for not standing up for trans women. That is men choosing to play women's sports. I wanted to share this with you because I wanted to read you his comments and some of the comments underneath the article because I find it fascinating to see the rationale, the mindset. And actually, the sense of moral superiority and intellectual superiority of people that say nothing, that doesn't stand up to the smallest bit of scrutiny.

This is what Jackson Irvine had to say in this article. I didn't feel like there was much public display of support or allyship across the men's game. That was disappointing. The invocation of the word allyship is all of a sudden, all ready. It's a huge light beam sticking up out of a story. Like once you start using the word allyship, you've bought in on every cliche and every term that is going to circumvent the rational circuits. You know you're in for a doozy, a roll.

coaster of semantic games. It has nothing to do with rational thought. Quote, we still have a long way to go in football, and especially men's football. Of course, that's soccer. To speak out on any social issues, and especially when it comes to LGBTIQIA plus, writes, where maybe players don't feel confident or supported to make statements. Jackson Irvine says the number, the small number of trans women who play football in the UK just emphasizes how heavy-handed this decision was. Most footballers, wouldn't become, would welcome any teammate into their environment, regardless of what identity.

I think the game has taken strides for, and generationally we are in a more accepting and open space. I would like to see more people stand up whenever rights are taken away from our fellow football players. Okay, so first thing that stands out to me is just the usage of words, like rights. Why do you have a right to play sports with people who are not of the same gender or sex you are?

Why is that a right? And why is your right of these, say, 20 trans athletes more important than the right of the thousands of women who presumably would want to play safe, free, and fair from being infiltrated by men? Just using the word rights, by the way, is designed as a conversation shutdown. But I see no such right, no natural right, no statutory right. What is the right? It's always cage. That's the thing about all these movements. They're cages, so they're the modern-day civil rights movement, and it's absurd.

As is this quote, we want to make sure everyone who plays our game has a safe and inclusive space to play the game we all love. Really, a safe and inclusive space. What about the women who have to go up against a dude? 30 pounds heavier, faster, thicker bones, years of puberty and development as a man. And that takes me to some of the comments because it's not just this like nothing language, right? This zzz sound in their brain. It's actually, then they dress it up in the sense of rationality. So it's just comments.

But I was reading these comments and like the people that are on this, first of all, they always invoke you're a bigot. Like ASAP right away, throw that card on the table. It doesn't even have any weight anymore. I think it's beyond everyone's laughter. But the argument to the extent that there is one that is made is the rule before the UK struck down was a clear rule and that you had to take 12 months of testosterone-reducing hormones before you could play.

Okay, so the fact that that rule exists, they suggest means it's fair. It's dressed up in the legalities of a process. And it's not just, oh, you could self-identify. Well, we do have self-identification states. I mean, Connecticut famously has that when it comes to track. Like, a dude can simply identify as a female and switch stat to competing with women. But even the ones, places where you have stuff like 12 months of testosterone reduction, so what?

So what? Into an acceptable range of testosterone. As though testosterone in its presence at that given moment is the only thing that matters. What about years of testosterone, right, influencing muscle mass, bone density, aggression, everything. And you can't undo that. And by the way, even if you could and you said, well, you have to transition, what, pre-puberty? I don't care still because there's still genetic, genetic advantages and differences. It almost like, why am I even doing this?

We feel like we've done this over and over. But why I'm doing this is I just read this article and I was just astounded by the moral superiority and an intellectual condescension of something so inferior, your position is intellectually and morally inferior, aka stupid. And it's fascinating to watch that stupidity dressed up in Ivy League academic robes and parade around as though it's the high ground. But, I mean, it's almost the rash. of it all that now offends me more than the committing of the act like i'm madder at the people

that dress up their position in this emperor has no clothes BS then sometimes i am at lea thomas you know which you should be mad at lea thomas or the athlete that's invading it but it's like why is there any public rationalization of this it's beyond absurd what's up to a days i mean some of the circles I run in, you know, the Brooklyn brunch crew, when this first all came out, they were jumping on defending this, like you were saying. They were automatically head in defending it because they felt like they had to. Now recently, they're backing off on it and they think that it's, you know, not such a great idea, maybe, not all of them. Why? Just because they're starting to realize the rationality of it like you were just saying. Because they were jumping head in on defending it because they felt like they had to because everyone that thinks like them, thinks that way and it's a hive mind thing type of thing so it's fascinating about that if there's any shift and as you mentioned not among all of them it shows that the hive mind itself is breaking yes so if you got sucked in because it was the cool thing to do in your crowd you're only going to leave as it becomes an uncool thing among your crowd and i mean it's not full of any leaders

but something has broken and it's not as much much of a cause to champion, a moral, a moral, like, the word virtue signal also becomes a thing, but it's like, you're not, it's not the flag for you to fly anymore to show that you are a special person, a smart person, an enlightened person. It's like, okay, maybe that doesn't signify that anymore. So I'm not going to fly that flag anymore and then reverse engineer my rationale. I don't know. I just find it always fascinating to see what is driving And, you know, say one of the Brooklyn brunch crew came on the show, they would say maybe I'm straw manning this and not steel manning it. But, I mean, literally, okay, is this, this is the athletic, which is a pretty good sports website.

Very good. Is this a straw man or is this a steel man? The words and arguments that I just shared made, is this the best that they come? Because I'd love to hear the best. I've been having this conversation for a good seven or eight years now. And the best is bad. The best arguments for this are really bad. And by the way, I also think, here's a flag, this reveals a lot about the quality of arguments on many of the positions taken on the left, that they are driven by hive mind and then reverse engineers into weak rationales.

All right, I was, as I mentioned at this Crawfish Bulls weekend, friend, big fan, said, man, you did so much buildup for the draft and this and then you never gave your grades. Like, you never delivered. I'm like, yeah, I think you're right. I never did. So I'm going to do this quickly because it's a little bit in the past. But my grade for the Dallas Cowboys draft is a B-plus. I like what they did. They put money in the bank.

They took an offensive lineman, Tyler Booker, in the first. They took best player available in a guy that was supposed to be a first-rounder that dropped into the mid-second in the defensive end from Boston College. Quality. And then they took a guy who could have been also been a first-rounder, defensive back, Chvonne Ravel. But because of injury concerns, he fell to the third. I also like them taking the Texas running back Jaden Blue in the fifth round because here's my thing.

I like value, value, value, and then special traits. Jaden Blue is super fast, like super fast. Now, he had problems. He wasn't the best running back at the University of Texas, but he is super fast. And I like to see in the fifth round as you're drafting a running back, what if he turns into, you know, Devon A chain, you know, a running back with special speed that changes the shape of the field, tilts the field. you got to hit home runs in the back end of the draft. In the first couple rounds, I'm looking for value. I'm a little worried about the Cowboys roster,

specifically at defensive back, cornerback, and drafting a guy who may not play for a while. He's hurt is a problem. Trevon Diggs is hurt. So they've got, like, on paper, a great defensive backfield. But on paper doesn't play football, and I'm not sure how many of these guys are going to play football and win. And then comes the biggest critique of the Cowboys' draft.

They didn't draft a wide receiver. number two. But they did last week trade for Pittsburgh Steelers, wide receiver George Pickens. They'll get up a third and a sixth and got back a fifth or a third and a fifth and got back a sixth for George Pickens. It's a risk. It's a gamble. Dude as character concerns, diva, you know, throw me the damn ball, Qishon mentality. But I'm willing to gamble. He's so talented that maybe a new environment is worth a third round pick. He makes a great number two wide receiver

if he intellectually and emotionally can handle being a number two to C.D. Lamb. But all of a sudden, this Cowboys' offense is good everywhere, but one position. That's left tackle. It's a big one. But they did draft that guy, Tyler Guyton, in the first round a few years ago. So you got to hope he starts to live up to it. But if so, I like this Cowboys offense. And I give the trade for George Pickens and the draft B pluses with the potential to go to A.

And the potential to go to C minus. There's your range. I put them in the middle until we find out for both B-plus. I thumbs up and endorse both the draft and George Pickens. Okay, that's going to do it for us today here on The Wheel Cane Show. Thanks for hanging out with us. We'll see you all week long at 12 o'clock Eastern Time at Fox News YouTube and Fox News Facebook or Spotify and Apple. See you next time.

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