Will Cain Country - USWNT Exposed, The Real Obama, and College Football Realignment

Episode Date: August 7, 2023

Story #1: How do you write a biography about a fictional character? How do you write about former President Obama? Story #2: The U.S Women's National Soccer Team exposed at The World Cup. Story #3: College Football realignment is here, but College Football is gone.   Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail]   Follow Will on Twitter @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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you'll know just how healthy they are. Visit Spexsavers.cavers.cai to book your next eye exam. Eye exams provided by independent optometrists. 1. How do you write a biography of a fictional character authored by someone who's deliberately created and obscured and erased their actual life and replaced that self with a fiction? How do you write a biography of Barack Obama? Two, the U.S. women's national team exposed at the World Cup. Three, college football realignment is here, and college football is gone. It's the Will Cain podcast on Fox News podcast.

What's up? And welcome to Monday. As always, I hope you will download, rate, and review this podcast wherever you get your audio entertainment at Apple, Spotify, or at Fox News podcast. You can watch the Will Came podcast. on Rumble or on YouTube and keep up with the Will Cain podcast on Twitter at Will Cain. I want to congratulate my friend, Zach Thomas of the Texas Tech Red Raiders and the Miami Dolphins for being inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Zach Thomas was an awesome linebacker, but Zach Thomas was an even more awesome man.

I got to know Zach when I was in my 20s through a mutual friend, a friend of mine who played with Zach and Larry Izzo at the Miami Dolphins. We became, I was brought into a bit of a friend group and got to know these guys, some of them very well, over time. A few years ago in 2020, I was at the Super Bowl when I was working for ESPN. I was sitting at a bar in Miami. And this bartender from Panama randomly begins to tell me. me and another buddy a story about how when he grew up in Panama, he was a massive fan of the NFL of American football. He was a massive fan of Zach Thomas. Why? Well, he was assigned number 54 back in the day. So he became a fan of the best middle linebacker in the NFL who wore number

54, Zach Thomas. Ramon from Panama knew everything there is to know about Zach Thomas. I mean, he told me story after story after story. And I said, yeah, you know, I know Zach. To which he said, that's incredibly amazing, but wasn't that interested, but continued to tell me stories about Zach Thomas. So sitting there, I texted Zach and said, hey, man, I don't know if you have time. This happened to be on a weekend three years ago when they were voting for the Hall of Fame. And Zach was somewhere in a hotel in South Beach or downtown Miami, waiting for the

literal knock on the door where they announced to you that you've been inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame. That knock never came. It was a weekend of disappointment. But Zach turned his weekend of disappointment into another man's weekend of jubilation. I sent him a video of Ramon talking on and on and on about him at this bar. And then a day passed, and Zach sent me a video of him. showing up to that bar on South Beach and walking up to Ramon to give him a hug to introduce himself and to give him

a signed Zach Thomas Jersey. Ramon was of course beside himself. Ramon was overjoyed. Tears. Hugs. And I just thought man, on this weekend when Zach

could have spent any number of minutes feeling sorry for himself instead, what he took time to do was to go make somebody else feel good about themselves. Three years past, and now Zach Thomas got that knock on the door. He has been inducted into the pro football Hall of Fame. It's well deserved. But more than a Hall of Fame football player, Zach Thomas, is a Hall of Fame dude.

Hey, I wanted to get you on a big debate from this weekend on Fox and Friends. This weekend on Fox and Friends, in passing, we did the story of Oregon doing away with the attendance at gas stations who pumped your gas. It was a law, apparently, in Oregon, like it is in New Jersey, that you have to keep gas station attendance for people of a certain age. You'll remember the dude that came up and squeegeed your window and filled up your gas. Every other state has moved to those self-service pumps. In that discussion, Rachel Campos Duffy, my co-host said to me and Pete Heggseth, I believe that men should always pump the gas. And I said, like, we should always have gas station attendance?

And she said, no, no, no. I mean, men, not women should pump the gas. To which Pete and I readily agreed. I mean, if you're at a gas station with your wife, you're in the same vehicle, even if you're in the passenger seat, you pump the gas. You don't make your wife get out and pump the gas. But no, no, no. Rachel went further. She goes, no, I mean like, as a woman, I don't think I should ever pump gas.

I was confused. What do you mean? Like, my husband, Sean, goes and takes my car to the gas station and fills up my tank. Now I was confused. My mind is blown. You're telling me he monitors your gas tank, he checks your gas tank, and then randomly makes trips to the gas station to ensure that you always have a full or adequate tank of gas? Yes. Is chivalry dead? Said Rachel. And then Pete, because he's aligned himself on the side of Angel, says, yeah, you know, actually, I do that too. And not only did I feel as though I were cast as the villain, I more importantly felt completely

confused. I don't understand how I am to monitor another person's gas tank. Oh, the debate went on and on Is chivalry dead? You know, Will, there's still, what are you woke? Are you believe in genderless roles? I mean, all of the worst aspersions. I said, look, I hold open doors.

I pick up tabs. I walk through doors second. But I think we've gone to bridge too far here. I think women are capable beings. I think they are completely capable of independence. I don't even know how it would work logistically. for me to know the level of my wife's gas tank. And then another detail emerged,

which I think is an operative detail, and they sort of waved their hands away. And it's this detail. Both in the Duffy household and in the Hegseth household, they maintain communal cars, meaning nobody really has a car, just the family has cars. Like there's enough cars for everybody to have a car,

but it's like you have a pool of cars out front and you just grab the keys of whatever car and take what you want. And in that scenario, I can see it more logistically possible, perhaps not chivalrous, but more logistically possible, that a man would ensure that all of the cars have gas. But that ain't the way it works. For me or anyone else I know, at least in Texas.

We all have our own cars. I have a truck. My wife has an SUV. I'll drive her SUV on occasion. When circumstances demand, she rarely, if ever, like on a few occasions, because she's somewhat scared to drive my truck, grabs the keys for my vehicle. It's his and hers cars. I have my car. She has her car.

So there's no reason I would ever be in her car or rarely would be in her car, certainly in the driver's seat, where I would say, oh, look, you're low on gas. When we get home, I'll go back and take your car to the gas station. And, of course, everyone knows. If we're all being real here, for most women out there, you drive your cars down to the E and then pass them. You're like Kramer in Seinfeld, constantly searching for the bottom of the tank. I know it's true. Don't deny it. Every one of you.

And by the way, just because this skews women doesn't absolve men, I'm actually one of those men. I drive my tank down to E. but I know I am joined in that habit with all the women. So if you don't have communal cards and you each have your own car, I don't even understand how or when I would fill up my wife's gas tank. There were people that emailed in, tweeted in. I thought I had overwhelming support on this, but they had some support on their social media

with people saying stuff like, well, every Sunday I take my wife's car to fill it up. And that's sweet. I guess that makes it more logistically possible. But it's never even occurred to me. It's never even occurred to me. And it would be one of my husbandly duties or chivalrous for me to ensure my wife's gas tank remains above empty. It sort of seems like a human's, you know, basic needs to meet individually. So I ask you, do you fill up your own gas tank?

Or do you rely on your partner, your husband, to ensure you're not rolling around on E? Hit me up on Twitter at Will Cain. You can email the show. I always forget the show's email. I think it's Will Cain Podcast at Fox News.com or Willcane Podcast at Fox.com. You can also hit me up on Instagram at C. Will Cain. Story number one. How do you write a biography of a fictional character?

How do you write a biography of Barack Obama? Isn't it interesting how we've forgotten about Barack Obama? In fact, Barack Obama has already been ushered past news cycle relevance and past certainly new cycle coverage and already been ushered into the age of legend and myth. All that's left for Barack Obama is Mount Rushmore. And that's the way the public received a biography published in, 2017 entitled Rising Star, written by a man named David Garrow. Garrow was interested, not in the myth, but in the reality of who is Barack Obama. And that quote is what summarizes Rising Star.

How do you write a biography of a fictional character authored by someone who's deliberately created and obscured and erased their actual life and replaced that self with? a fiction. The reality, according to David Garrow, is that in love letters written to his college sweetheart, Barack Obama fantasized about having sex with men. I lead with that detail not because I think it's the most important takeaway from Rising Star, but it acts as the best illustration of the total disinterest of the press and perhaps the public in reaching and finding and learning the reality instead of the myth of Barack Obama. David Garrow is no partisan hack. He's written several books.

He wrote The FBI and Martin Luther King, wherein he's interviewed thousands of civil rights activists to understand the man who is or was Martin Luther King. He wrote another book entitled Bering the Cross about the Civil Rights Movement that won a Pulitzer Prize for biography. He interviewed over a thousand people, he says, when it comes to understanding Barack Obama and spent eight hours himself with the former president.

But Rising Star was published in 2017, and in 2017, the world was already obsessed with Donald Trump. Every bit of coverage, every bit of attention, not just in the media, but in every barbecue and cocktail hour, every social interaction, you know and you remember, and it still remains so today, is dominated by Donald Trump. Of course, at that time, we were inflamed in the hoax it was Russia collusion. And Barack Obama already felt old.

In fact, his presidency faded away, almost inconsequential, at least in many substantive ways. But the presidency of Barack Obama certainly is a moment that I think helps define where we are today in America, where we stand when it comes to race relations. and the path that we are on towards identity politics and its role, identity politics role in our lurch towards Marxism. So it's important, it's always important, to set aside the myth and understand the truth. It's important to try to understand Barack Obama. Let's talk a minute about David Garrow's surprise when he began to research our former president. One of the thousands of people that he spoke to was Barack Obama's college girlfriend. Her name is Sheila Jager.

Sheila Jager was a woman that Barack Obama proposed to on three separate occasions. They dated and lived together for years and years. Jager talked a lot about Obama's self-perception and relationship to race, his relationship to blackness. Carol talks about this in his interviews with all these different individuals. Having written about MLK, he found somebody, he thought, very unique in Barack Obama. He said that it's inescapable that Barack Obama's success in 2008 is rooted, I'm quoting here, in white people seeing him as an easy ticket toward racial absolution. It's a need that white people in this country have, and it's what we're still seeking or seeing week after week,

now for these past two or three years, especially in places like the Times and the Post, is that this need for white absolution was not cured by the Obama presidency. I frankly don't understand it. He talks about Barack Obama's relationship to race, relationship to blackness, as operative when it comes to white America, because Barack Obama wasn't readily accepted by black America. Garo says in this interview that he, growing up in Hawaii, bounced around, had an identity rooted in Indonesian and Hawaiian and white mother, black father. Did he actually search for identity and had a lot of hard time, sympathetically, had a hard time throughout much of his life, finding his place, finding his community, finding where he belonged, finding his identity. Garrow said in this interview published in Tablet Magazine.

I've sometimes said to people that I think Barack is actually just as insecure as Trump, but in ways that are not readily perceived by the vast majority of people. I think that's probably my most basic takeaway. Garrow in his interviews with Sheila Jaeger talks about when Obama began to migrate towards a personal identity, towards a view of himself as pro-black, as defined by his blackness. Before that, I talked about in this interview, Jager, also a liberal, had a more universalist approach to race. I take that to mean seeing people as a unity, as a whole, as a one people, where Barack Obama became a particularist when it came to race. He focused on his race. He focused on black. This was reflected in his embrace of Louis Farrakhan. It was a seminal moment. They had a fight, he and his college girlfriend, because, Because in her retelling of this event, I'm sure that Obama's retelling differs, but in her retelling of this argument, Obama wouldn't denounce the anti-Semitism of Lewis Farrakhan because so much of that anti-Semitism was wrapped up in pro-blackness. Garrow and others think this is also reflected in Obama's unwillingness to accept American exceptionalism.

And in fact, his open rejection of American exceptionalism. You remember there's a famous quote from Obama during his presidency when asked if he thought was America was exceptional, he said in the same way that Germans probably believe in German exceptionalism and French believe in French exceptionalism. It's actually a remarkable moment. No American president has ever said, well, you know, there's nothing really special about the United States.

I'm sure we think so, just like the French think so, but there's nothing unique or special or exceptional about this experiment about America. It's not a throwaway line. It's not a small moment. That's a huge, huge position to hold. I mean, I have laid out on this podcast on numerous occasions with you, not just my belief, but the foundations of my belief in American exceptional. But for Obama, America was not, is not.

Exceptional. Carroll writes that Obama's arrogant, he's insecure, and that he has come to buy into his own myth. What's the myth? That's a second big takeaway beyond his embrace of racial identity politics. It's a total lack of interest in the press of understanding the truth of Barack Obama. Dreams of my father, Barack Obama's first big book, defined the story, defined the biography. And it is, by almost all accounts, a complete work of fiction. It's just not true.

It's not true about his life. It's not true about his studies. It's not true about his writing. It's not true about his father. And that is the springboard. That was the compulsion for a man like Garrow to begin to go research Barack Obama. But he said when he started interviewing people like Sheila Jaeger or one of Obama's other college girlfriends, her first name is Alex. I forget off the top of my head.

Her last name. But you can read this article in Tablet Magazine. he was shocked to find out no real other mass media reporters had reached out to these women, never tried to understand Barack Obama. They were happy to accept the myth from dreams of my father. It was a love letter to Alex, the college girlfriend from Occidental, who Barack Obama confessed his fantasies about having sex with men. Now, Garrow found that out because those letters are in a library. In the files, you can see them, but they wouldn't let his researcher take pictures of it. He had to transcribe it hand by hand.

And most accounts of that out there have that part of the letter redacted. But it says it's there. It's in the letter. To me, while that's salacious and curious and interesting, it's really more symbolic of our disinterest. And understand the reality that is Barack Obama. just everybody's so, not just so happy to accept the myth, but wedded to protecting the myth, that if you pursue the truth, oh, well, you're a partisan bigot. He also brings up an issue that I think remains fascinating, at least in this interview with David

Samuels of Tablet Magazine. Why is it Barack Obama still maintains a residence in Washington, D.C.? It breaks a norm, a norm that presidents have maintained about the transfer of power in the United States of America. Only one president prior to Barack Obama. since the Civil War maintained a residence in Washington, D.C. They all went back home to wherever it is from where they were elected, from wherever it is. They called home.

Barack Obama has a home in Martha's Vineyard, but he spends the vast majority of the year in Washington, D.C., a neighborhood called Calorama. And Samuels asked Garrow, why do you think that is? It's fascinating exchange. This is the words of the interviewer, David Samuels. He says, does that strike you as odd? I mean, I've heard from more than one source that there are regular meetings at Obama's house and Calorama involving top figures in the current White House with secret service and cars outside. I don't write about it because it's not my lane. There were a thousand reporters in Washington, yet there are zero stakeouts of Obama's mansion, if only to tell us who's coming and going.

But he clearly has his oar in. He's talking about his oar in to power into Washington, D.C. They say personnel is policy. The Biden administration is chock full of Obama personnel, everywhere you look. It certainly gives credibility to the idea that what we're seeing with Joe Biden is an extension of the presidency, a third term of Barack Obama. By the way, the only other president to maintain a residence in Washington, D.C. since Civil War's Woodrow Wilson, who was infirm and couldn't be moved. It's a very interesting article in Tablet Magazine, and it's a book that I intend to read Rising, are by David Garrow.

You should take a look. It's long, the article and tablet. But if you understand, if you want to understand the truth, not just about our past, but also perhaps where we are in the present, it might be worth understanding, not fiercely protecting and certainly not accepting the myth, but understanding the truth of Barack Obama. We'll be right back with more of the Will Kane podcast. For a limited time at McDonald's, enjoy the tasty breakfast trio, your choice of

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Listen live at noon Eastern or get the podcast at foxacrossamerica.com. Story number two. The U.S. women's national team exposed. at the World Cup. The U.S. Women's National Soccer team lost to Sweden in the round of 16 at the World Cup. In a game that went to overtime, zero-zero, they lost in a penalty kick shootout. U.S. star Megan Rapino was one of the women who missed her penalty kick in that shootout. And I wrote the following as my opinion of the U.S. women's national team.

I always root for the team USA, all sports. I really don't take joy in the earliest elimination ever for the U.S. women's national team. But this team came to be defined by arrogant celebrity activists who went out of their way to exhibit shame in the United States, begin the process of destroying their own sports by advocating for men to play women's sports, incurring victimization with false narratives about equal pay. Nobody made it harder to root for them than the U.S. women's national team. There are women on this team who have poured their heart and soul and sweat into this team for the United States, who are proud Americans focused on soccer. I hope those players define the future of the U.S. women's national team.

This team came to be defined by many players, but most notably, Megan Rapino. Rapino, after this loss, was asked what her most memorable moment was as a member of the U.S. women's national team. And she said, the fight for equal pay. The fight for equal pay was a farce. It is a farce. The women's team is not underpaid by almost any metric, certainly not in terms of any metric that is correlated to capitalism, how much they draw, how much they earn. Most of the pay in soccer, by the way, is farmed out in form of a bonus pool to the men's and women's national team players. The bonus pool is largely funded by the World Cup. The men's World Cup is the most popular sport. event on the planet and every men's team receives a cut and then every player on each men's team receives a cup it doesn't matter how far you went at least in terms of the women winning the woman's world cup and the men making it out of the group stage of the men's world cup because the men's world cup is so much more popular by billions the men make more what more the women in

throughout this fight have negotiated for a constant pay a secure pay more or less downside risk And when they did that, they gave up some of their upside. But they always painted it as victimization. They always painted it as sexism. They painted it as this big injustice. And they were awarded the Arthur Ashe Courage Award at the Espies. Can't win the World Cup, but you can win an ESPie for their fight for equal pay. I think this women's team was, over time, sucked into celebrity activism.

Carly Lloyd, legend for the U.S. women's national team, said they're focused on things outside of the pitch. off the field, more so than what's happening on the field at the World Cup. They became addicted to activism, civil rights, the cloak of victimhood that can then turn you into the modern day civil rights warrior, from victim to hero. But weirdly, just as they're fighting for equal pay, players like Alex Morgan and Megan Rapino said, oh yeah, we should definitely allow men to join women's sports. Transwomen are women. Another cause. Another civil rights victimization movement.

Another chance to cast themselves first as victims and then as heroes. They would destroy their own sport to continue to feed their own ego. I think it's reprehensible to climb up the top of the ladder. By the way, we're great at soccer. But let's be real about this. We got to it early. We're not. This big sexist society deprives women of their opportunities.

In fact, we're the most progressive society on the planet. The reason we dominate soccer isn't because they were all greater athletes in the girls from Brazil or England, but it's because we gave opportunities here long before the rest of the world accepted the idea of women's soccer. Soccer is in the blood, football in their terms, is in the blood of almost every other nation on the planet, but not America. It's not in our culture. It's not in our blood. We dominated women's soccer because we got to it first, because we were the least. sexist. We've got a leg up. About 30 years leg up. And we dominated. Not because of tactics or skills, yes, because of athleticism, but because we invested in this. And in large part,

what you're seeing with these women lose in the round of 16 is the rest of the world is now catching up. Now the rest of the world has embraced women's soccer or beginning to. And the gap has closed. So before you sit here and kneel before the anthem, kneel before the flag, and show shame in the United States of America. Understand that the United States of America is why you have those medals, why you have that fame, why you were put on a stage to dominate for 30 years. And now that you've climbed to the top of that ladder, had that head start, had that advantage, you want to yank the ladder up from behind you?

You want to allow men to start joining so you can box out all the other girls that will come into soccer, that hope to follow in your footsteps? No, sorry, girls. Bobby, who now goes by Aaron, he wants to play soccer with the girls. And by the way, you want to play that game? You're also going to destroy the U.S. women's ability to win, much less dominate women's soccer. A bunch of dudes start playing. What's going to make this any different than the men's World Cup?

Trust me, if they let men on the field, growing their hair out, calling themselves women, the Brazilians and the French and the English are all going to dominate that as well. It won't be the men, the American men. I found it despicable that they would destroy their own sport that was granted to them with the culture, the foundation, the progressive values of the United States of America. These women made it very, very hard to root for them. They danced around like fashion icons at this World Cup.

You can see videos of Rapino and the other girls like kind of mean mugging, sunglasses and berets and all-black outfits, stomping around on the field. You know, I have a son whose confidence borders along cockiness. He plays soccer. He was a practice. This was a couple of weeks ago now,

and they were having fun taking penalty kicks at the end of practice. And I watched him. I was sitting on the sidelines at practice, and I watched him. And he was kind of, you know, he was having a good time. I'm going to give him that.

Like, this is fun for him. He likes it, you know? He's not, like, making anybody smaller. He's not trash-talking people down. him. He just tracks, talks himself up. He has fun. He prances around. And he kind of did all this stuff when he went up to take his penalty kick. He stood like Ronaldo, feet spread wide apart, arms in a heroic stance out wide. He stands like Superman, right? And then he does the Namar, you know, really small, tiny steps as he runs up. I don't know if you can picture it, but it's these, you know, cutesy little dramatic small steps to kind of prolongs your moment with the spotlight on you as you're about to take your penalty kick. And then he runs up and he takes his penalty kick. And he's it just like Rapino over the top of the goal and after practice I said to him this hey man listen if you want to be that guy you can be that guy I'm not going to take that away from you if you want to be cocky it's enabling in sports you always need to be a good sport you need to be a good teammate

but if your confidence is on the side of cockiness and you have a good time and you like a little showmanship fine but if you're going to be that guy then you have to be that guy you have to deliver. There's nothing wrong with being Ronaldo, arrogant and cocky and full of himself with a big ego. As long as you live up to your arrogance and cockiness

and big ego. If you want to be that guy, you better be that guy. Jordan can be as cocky as he wants. But you can't do that and then sell your kick over the goal. If Rapino and the women's national team want to be arrogant and

cocky and fashion, icons and celebrity activists, be that guy. But you got to win. Nobody cares about that guy or gal when they lose. This woman's national team was inherently unlikable and hard to root for. And yet I still, many people out there dislike them, actively disliked them and actively rooted against them. I did not. I won't. I do not root against the red, white, and blue. That's my thing. I don't do it. I don't do it in the Olympics. I don't do it in the world. World Cup, I don't do it in any situation. I root first for America. There hasn't really been an America versus Texas showdown that I can think of, and that'll put me to the test.

But I root first for America. But these women made it hard. And here's hoping that the next generation of U.S. women's national team players are defined by those women who pour their heart and soul and sweat into soccer and are proud, proud to represent America. We're going to step aside here for a moment. Stay tuned. Listen to the all-new Brett Bear podcast featuring Common Ground. In-depth talks with lawmakers from opposite sides of the aisle, along with all your Brett Bear favorites, like his All-Star panel and much more.

Available now at foxnewspodcasts.com or wherever you get your podcasts. Story number three. College football realignment is here and college football is gone. College football exploded on Friday. and the PAC 12 is dead. Late Friday night, news broke that the University of Oregon and the University of Washington would be leaving the PAC 12 to join the Big 10.

They will join USC and UCLA as former PAC 12 schools now in the Big 10, which is really the Big 18. Shortly thereafter, Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah were invited and accepted their invitation into the Big 12. If you looked at a Big 12 map right now, it's actually geographically cohesive, not like the Big 10 that spans from coast to literal coast,

from Maryland to Oregon. It's going to be a travel nightmare. How about those non-revenue-producing athletes that have a test, those non-NIL check cashing athletes and, I don't know, women's volleyball, having to take cross-country flights and study for a test.

But the Big 12 is like geographically contiguous except for New Mexico. The map is almost insulting. Not that I think the University of New Mexico and New Mexico State should be in it. They don't play football at that level. They're not big time. But the map is just so mean. It's like this big gap in the Big 12th.

The stretches from Arizona over to Texas and then up through Colorado and into Iowa, Kansas, and Iowa. I don't know where college football is headed. And I may love this new thing, this new super. league conference of semi-pro sports that we're headed toward. I may love it. There's going to be great games, Texas versus Georgia, Ohio State versus USC. But I know that I'm sad that what we have lost now is at least what I have known in my lifetime as college football. College football is about localities and regions, rivalries, local rivalries, divided families, families that sit a kid to A&N.

and to Texas, to OU, to Baylor, and to TCU, and they all sit around the Thanksgiving table and argue. It's fun. It's about tradition. It's about games that have been being played for over 100 years. That's what college football it is. Maybe outside of baseball. Maybe more than baseball.

The most tradition-laden sport in the United States. And tradition has value. Don't always give me the bigger is better. Next is always better. Progress is always better. This is driven by money. People have said that America has the unique ability to take a good idea, turn it into great, and then ring every last dollar out of it until it's totally unrecognizable,

generic, and a hollow shell of its former self. And it's hard not to believe that's the path that we're headed here with college football. I know. Conferences have been aligned and re-aligned and moved over and over again throughout its history. But come on. this is different and where are we headed what four super conferences is it even going to be four is the ac c going to survive florida states already making noises about wanting to leave they're mad like ut texas used to be with the big 12 that they generated most of the revenue and then

have to share it equally you know with boston college florida state once out of the ACC. And as I mentioned earlier, the Big Ten's up to 18 teams. The Big 12 is at 16 and the SEC's at 16. So if you think about it, if those two want to match the Big Ten, I'm going to go to 18. Here's a proposal. Florida State and Clemson to the SEC. Makes sense, right? Southern schools, North Florida is the South. Clemson and South Carolina, definitely the South. Fit right in, culturally, geographically, quality of football, with everything else in the SEC, gives the SEC 18. And the Big 12, I think in a very smart move, is trying to establish itself as a respectable

football conference in the nation's preeminent basketball conference. They've now got Kansas, Baylor, they've now got Arizona, Texas, Texas Tech, often, very good. basketball. Iowa State, why not then invite from the ACC and Duke become the super conference of basketball. But what happens to everybody else, man? What happens to the four left in the Pac-12? Stanford, Cal, Oregon State, Washington State. I know there's those that say, who cares? Who cares what happens to them? They don't matter. I care. I really do. I mean, And sometimes you have personal connections, and I have an insane. I had an insane.

I say this because he's passed, but insane Washington State fan. Insane. Can you tell you how insane? He was my friend's dad, and he was my friend. John. And we were in a fantasy football league for years, and he would draft, for example, Jason Hansen, kicker in the NFL, lions, and so forth. And like the fourth round, because he went to Washington State.

He'd always tell me about some obscure Washington State player that was going to be the best. loved Bledsoe, loved Bledsoe, always tell me about these Washington State players. I mean, Washington State has great, by the way, environment, huge, passionate fan base. What happens to them? If my proposal were right, you know, with the ACC, what happens to Virginia? What was to Virginia Tech? Great football school. What happens to Boston College?

Hey, what happens to Miami? Hmm? Maybe the ACC survives. Maybe you end up with four super conferences. I don't know. I don't know where college football is headed. Here's a proposal. If we're going to do this, maybe this is the one sport where we can do relegation.

I've been wanting relegation in every professional sport in the country. You're never going to get it in American sports. Never going to get European-style soccer relegation. You know, three go down, three come up every year. Incentivizes no tanking. Everybody can rise to the top. We're arriving at like basically 40 teams. It's more because you've got the big tens at 18, SECs at 16, big 12s is 16.

Then you got a good, what, half a dozen. Good schools and football, at least, in the ACC. So now you're already at, what is that? Like, 50, 60 teams. But figure it, figure out, 40 teams. Maybe the big, how about the big 10 in the SEC represent the Premier League? 40 are at the top. But, got to play well, right?

Fanderbilt, Northwestern. Who else is at the bottom? Minnesota's on the way up. I know you want to make a joke about Texas. But three teams, at least, probably should be more on the verge of relegation. And up come the teams from the Big 12. The champion Big 12, Texas Tech Red Raiders, rise up, become an SEC team, promoted, while Vanderbilt is relegated. We can figure it out.

Look, clearly nothing matters. Geography doesn't matter. History doesn't matter. All that matters is dollars. So everybody kind of participating in getting to the top dollar. forget these conferences make a first division a second division a third division let them rise up and down i'd love it hey we're we're shuffling the cards in college football all bets are off you know we've shuffled it we're mixing it up i don't know where we're headed i don't think

where we are is a destination i think it's a way station whatever this is this isn't the end result it's going to keep evolving more money you know how long until georgia or texas This is true because they're big revenue generating programs. Look up and go, huh, should I be sharing all this revenue with Mississippi State? How long until that happens? You know what's going to happen. It's okay, fine. Top programs, however it's defined.

Biggest revenue generating, biggest money programs, right? But you've got to have promotion and relegation. I don't know. It could be fun. This all could be great. But I'll be sad because, A little sad, because what we've known, divided families, tradition, geographic, regional fights, the Red River rivalry, mayhem, these things go away. I know the Red River rivalry will still be there.

Red River Shootout, Red River of whatever, we're calling it these days, will still be there for now. But we're losing what it was, and I'll be a little sad about the death of college football. That's going to do it for me today here on the Will Cain podcast. Again, hit me up on Twitter at Will Cain. Let me know. Is it a necessary act of chivalry to fill up your wife's car with gas? I'll see you again next time. Listen to ad-free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcast.

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