Will Cain Country - VP Harris BOTCHES CNN Town Hall with Word Salads! PLUS, More Fake Trump Stories?

Episode Date: October 24, 2024

Story #1: If you want to know what a "word salad" is, look no further than Vice President Kamala Harris' Town Hall on CNN. That and more with the author of ‘Unbroken Bonds Of Battle’ & FOX News contributor, Johnny Joey Jones.  Story #2: It's fake story after fake story. What type of 'bombshell' story or "October Suprise" would even end the Trump campaign? A conversation with The Crew. Story #3: From on the road in Allentown, Pennsylvania, FOX News Columnist David Marcus tells you what the swing voters are saying.  Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, what is a word salad? Kamala Harris Town Hall on CNN. Two, what is a bombshell? They're throwing everything, including the kitchen sink at Donald Trump with two weeks until the race for president. What at this point? would actually serve to end the campaign. What would you believe? What would land?

What would explode? What is a bombshell? Three, on the road in Pennsylvania, David Marcus checks in with the swing voter here now on the Will Cain show. It is the Will Cain Show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News. Facebook page, always on demand if you're listening on Terrestrial Radio by heading over to Apple or Spotify and hitting subscribe.

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Subscribe on YouTube. And then you are a member of the Walliscia. It feels, it feels not in the cliched way of characterizing this as though something has changed. It feels not as though something has ramped up. It almost feels like something has broken, maybe even broken in the psyche. It feels like they have thrown the kitchen sink now at Donald Trump. It feels like they're rummaging round in the cabinets underneath the sink,

looking for wrenches, pulling out pipes, and throwing wind decks at Donald Trump. It feels panicked. And with panic comes ugliness. You've probably been there in your personal life when you're with someone in a, I don't know, existential situation. They're backed into a corner. You've seen a wild animal. And at that point, there's no more pretense.

There's nothing left. There's no more social niceties. and there kind of ceases to be politics. You begin to reveal your true self. You see the claws. You see the animal at its most base in what it can be and what it will do for survival. In this case, in what it will do for power,

everything starting yesterday seems to have been broken in America. Let's break all that down, including Kamala Harris's town hall on CNN today here. and let's get it started now with story number one joey jones is my friend he's also the author of unbroken bonds of battle he's a fox news contributor and he joins me now on the will cane show what's up joey let's just start with this before you tell me what's up i already see the attire that you have chosen yeah i see you rubbing your chest i see you rubbing your g i'll say what we're going to do just it's it's not subtle i knew it wouldn't be subtle i knew uh Joey was texting me on Saturday.

It was very friendly trash talk, which, by the way, Joey understands social niceties as Georgia was beginning to dominate Texas. The text stopped. He knew the limits. He didn't continue to push. So here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to give you the floor. I'm going to give you about 60 seconds.

You have the floor. You can say whatever you want. We may revisit this topic a little bit later on the Will Cain show, but let's just, it's almost like clearing your throat. Go ahead. Clear your throat, Georgia. Listen, you know, you just, you don't punch down. You take, you know, you take sympathy for those that are less.

fortunate. And also, it's, you know, listen, Texas has such an easy schedule this year. The chances of us playing them again are pretty high. I mean, you don't have to be great to win the rest of your games if you're Texas. If they're not great, they may still end up in the SEC championship. Hopefully, Georgia does too. And it would be an opportunity to polish up the offense and make the score reflect how much better Georgia is than Texas as opposed to that 30 to 15. That looks way too close for what was happening on the beach. football fit. Oh, is that right? Okay, I'm not even going to take the bait. We're not going to do this right now. We're going to yo-yo. We're going to, in the style of Donald Trump, we're going to weave,

and we will come back to Texas and Georgia. But I wanted to let you, I wanted to let you climb to the top of the mountain, and you chose to go to the top of the mountain and be patronizing. The water bottles from the top of the mountain. That's what I did. I threw water bottles like a kid in the student section in Austin. But what you chose to do was take the high road, which was not truly the high road. It was patronizing. It's the worst form of trash talk. So I know what you're doing.

I read between the lines. Hey, let's start with Kamala Harris. Last night, Joey Kamala Harris, CNN, Town Hall. It, interestingly for me, I have some real thoughts on what it revealed about skills and politics. it didn't reveal much about policy and Kamala Harris. But let's take a look at a moment last night and Willisher Boys in New York. Pick whichever you want. I want to dive into Kamala Harris and Anderson Cooper.

Listen. Is a border wall stupid? Well, let's talk about Donald Trump and that border wall. So remember Donald Trump said Mexico would pay for it? Come on. They didn't. How much of that wall did he build? I think the last number I saw was about 2%. And then when it came time for him to do a photo op, you know where he did it? In the part of the wall that President Obama built. Let's just fix the problem. To fix the problem, you're doing this compromise bill. It does call for $650 million that was earmarked under Trump to actually still go to build the wall. I am not afraid of good ideas where they occur. You don't think you're stupid anymore.

I think what he did and how he did it did not make much sense because he actually didn't do much of anything I just talked about that wall right? We just talked about it. He didn't actually do much of anything. But you do want to build some wall? I want to strengthen our border.

All right. First of all, I want to be consistent, Joey. I've said on this program, and I've tried to I think I hope enlighten the audience and what I think makes for a good interview, a good conversation, and it is the follow-up. So in order to follow-up, you have to listen, okay? You can't just ask your prescripted questions, and there's no perfectly drafted question to get an answer. So you have to follow up, and so I want to give credit to Anderson Cooper. He followed up, I would say, two to three times. On a very point of question,

you support the border wall. Now, I have a lot of analysis myself, Joey, on, again, the skills and what we saw there when it comes to Kamala Harris. But your thoughts? Yeah, you know, before I was the one asking questions, filling in for you and Pete, I was the guy answering questions as an analyst or a contributor for Fox. And I always had this joke. I say, listen, don't answer the question you're asked. Answer the question you want to answer. Well, there's an art and a skill to that as a communicator, and especially someone trying to convince people, because if it's too obvious that you're completely avoiding the question, then you're not answering anything. So he essentially asked her, you said building this wall was stupid, and now you're advocating for policy or legislation

that would build this wall. What changed your mind? Do you now support the wall? And what does she say? She says, well, Trump didn't build the wall. And it's like, okay, well, you know, it may be raining in Texas, but I've got to worry about the weather here today. And the idea is regardless of what Trump did or didn't do, what is your policy and where do you stand and why do you stand there? And a lot of what she had to say I could, a lot of us could push back on. I know the border wall fight that Trump and Pelosi had pretty well. And what makes the border wall so much of a topic, and I appreciate Anderson for honing in on it, is not the wall itself, but it's what it has symbolized throughout this fight since the Bush years. This idea that Democrats use the wall as a scapegoat to get out of fixing

immigration. And Republicans really built their entire immigration policy on the wall. And this idea that Trump offered Nancy Pelosi DACA reform, visa reform, dreamers in exchange for funding to border wall. And Pelosi couldn't let him have a win that was so intrinsically tied to his campaign that she went and found a way to get DACA through the Supreme Court. And he went and found a way to fund the border wall through the military funding. And in doing so, those other issues when it came to immigration didn't get touched at all. And so the reason why the border wall is so important is you have to go back to those Democrats that supported Pelosi and killing this deal over the idea that a wall is optically horrible and inhumane and all those things. If now they're saying,

ah, you know what, we're okay with the wall as long as we're the ones building it. And also, however much of the wall Trump built, yards of steel set to rust once Biden and Kamala took over, had a chance to build infinite amounts of border wall with the money and materials sitting there. So it's important to ask her about it. She can't answer it, man. She can't answer. She can't answer. She can't answer it, Joey. And now I want to tell you what I think and get your response. It's going to tie into what you had to say. And part of it is not unique to Kamala Harris. And part of it is unique to Kamala Harris. Let's start with the part that is not unique to Kamala Harris. What you said you learned when you first started appearing on Fox and in media as a guest

is exactly what is said to all politicians in media training. It does not matter what you are asked. Answer what you want to say. So that part is not unique to Kamala Harris. And it's not even unique to politicians, but it's exacerbated with politicians. So what I'm getting at is a question is asked. Some perfunctory acknowledgement of the question is made. And a pivot is made into the direction of where you want to go. Okay, so she says something like, this is the actual skills in play now. I'm glad you asked about immigration, Anderson. Okay, I didn't ask about immigration. I asked about the border wall. But at that point, she says, and she did it with Brett Bayer as well, I'm glad you asked about immigration. And then, after having acknowledged

the question as though you are now answering it, you pivot over into talking about Trump and his border wall. There's some unique stuff to Kamala Harris buried in there, Joey, that I think is fascinating. The laugh, the 2% joke that no one else is laughing along with, the nodding. And if you're listening on radio, you can picture this in your mind. She does it a lot. She nods when she is talking. Those are things she's doing, Joey, in my mind, to solicit agreement from either the audience or from the interviewer. She nods and laughs to pull them to her side. Now, she's not particularly good at it.

That's where there's a lack of skill. And she's pretty transparent in the fact that she's pivoting away from answering the question. We can all see it. I actually think the casual observer can see it and hear it, that that's what she's doing. But again, you know, what's on display in that clip is Anderson followed up two, three times, and you can see her each time make that calculation. And things fall by the wayside, right? She stops the laughing and the nodding.

She realizes now I'm not pulling him onto my side. And so he says, I think for the third time, but you're for a border wall. And she's now, she's the cornered animal that we're going to talk about a little bit later in the media. She's out. The third follow-up, she's run through everything that she's been taught, everything prescripted,

every skill and technique has now been exhausted, and she's stuck with. a simple statement of, I'm for fixing the problem, which everyone knows rings hollow and doesn't get you anywhere and is certainly not on point to, but now you're for a border wall? Yeah, well, you know, you like to be fair and you like to have debate on this show. You like to have a conversation that we would have if nobody were watching. Here's the truth. President Trump talks in exaggerated hyperbole. He talks like a New York City real estate developer.

I'm going to build that building, and it's going to be the most beautiful and biggest building you've ever seen. The words beautiful and biggest are descriptors. They're not literal. President Trump talks in policy the same way, and it's baked into who he is because the American people receive that as authentic. They see him say that, and they can translate it without needing the translator. You can criticize that. It's absolutely fair game to criticize that.

When he says, I'm taking all the troops out of Afghanistan, and then later you learn that in his mind that means we're not going to have combat in Afghanistan anymore. You can criticize that. that, that's okay, but the majority of Americans, and at least all those on the right, they understand his words for what they are, not the literal interpretation. So the reason why I bring that up is if you're going to give grace to one, you've got to give grace to the other. If Kamala Harris doesn't want to give a strict policy answer to a strict policy question,

fair enough, you know, if you ask President Trump how he fixes the economy, he talks about energy, and he really doesn't go beyond that. He really doesn't. I mean, now to his credit, he says that is the route to all evil on the. economy, but he doesn't go into how you get the interest rates down and how you change inflation overnight and how you change the housing market and things like that and how you change resourcing materials from countries that are adversarial. He says, listen, we're going to get the energy down and that's going to open it up. Kamala Harris doesn't have that. She doesn't have

that authentic way of pivoting. She doesn't have that authentic way of bringing in a talking point that resonates with her base and is attractive to independence that may not touch the heart of the question, but touches the hearts of people who are listening. She doesn't have that. It's either a communication style she's missing or she's over-rehearsed or she literally what it looks like, and I heard someone on Fox and Friends this morning because I was listening to the radio kind of critiquing. She doesn't have that fallback answer to questions that are difficult and she doesn't want to answer. Well, okay, Joey, but here's why. And I'm glad you brought up Trump. Okay, she's playing. So I just laid out for you that she's not a skilled, let's use a

metaphor card player she's not good at poker okay sure but there's another complicating factor here she has a losing hand she's not sitting on a winning hand so she can't play this game easily and she's not skilled to get out of a losing hand so this is a loser of a question for her because they have they have tape from 2019 where she says a border wall is stupid she has been the president vice president for three and a half years with border policies that have exacerbated through executive actions. And so she has a losing hand. So her goal going in, I think, Joey, is to do what we now have all described as a word salad. And this is the part that's not unique to her. I think that's most politicians. Most politicians, including Republicans, often don't want to answer the

question. They want to do what you said earlier. I want to pivot to my talking points, Republican and Democrat. Trump, and this is why I say, I'm glad you broke up Trump, brought it Trump. He broke the mold, Joey. He did. Like, okay, yes, you're right. He's guilty of exaggeration and hyperbole. He's also guilty of the weave, which some see as a vice. He and I, for that matter, see as a virtue, an entertaining virtue, the weave.

But he does, despite his hyperbole and despite the weave, answer the question directly. Like, he does, he's there. He meets the person where they are. And that's changed the game. at least at least for the moment we'll see about for the long term but you know he is so direct uniquely and she is so not uniquely indirect that we all call it a word salad the truth is every politician is a word salad most of them are that's absolutely true she's just bad at it she's really bad at it and i had a friend this morning i i had a friend this morning joey say and again

and this won't be as obvious to the people listening on radio or podcast, but it's all in her eyes, Joey. Like, look at that, we'll play another, let's do this. Let's play another Kamala Harris clip. And I want you to watch your eyes if you're watching on YouTube or Facebook. It's the follow-up, man. Her eyes look one way when she's on that talking point. When the follow-up comes, watch her eyes change.

It tells the game and shows, oh my gosh, I got a bad hand, and I don't know how to play poker. Here's another Kamala Harris. Is there something you can point to in your life, political life or in your life in the last four years, that you think is a mistake that you have learned from? I mean, I've made many mistakes. And they range from, you know, if you've ever parented a child, you know, you make lots of mistakes, too. In my role as vice president, I mean, I've probably worked very hard at making sure that. that I am well-versed on issues, and I think that is very important.

It's a mistake not to be well-versed on an issue and feel compelled to answer a question. So her biggest mistake is I'm too much of a perfectionist? I mean, when I heard that, I too. I heard a cell phone at the end. It's a mistake to not be prepared to answer a question. And as she is answering a question, she was obviously not prepared to answer. Like the irony there is just dripping. And, you know, look, if you ask President Trump, I know what his answer is going to be.

It's going to be no. It's just simply going to be no. I didn't make any mistakes. But there's confidence and authenticity there. She didn't even go that far. Well, everybody, well, if we are being fair, everybody makes mistakes, but Trump will not acknowledge a mistake. I don't know what his answer would have been to that. question he won't even really say fouchy was a mistake i don't know what is i don't know what his answer

would be to that question um but the the the thing about it is he would address it directly he may say i don't know i don't not many mistakes and in again in her eyes she's lost she's lost in this moment now what does that mean look what does that mean is that just oh media training is this you know fun naval gazing about um a town hall Well, to me, the bigger takeaway, Joey, is it's like a bad salesman who gives you the pitch on a car and you have a suspicion that it's a lemon, in this case, the analogy for politics would be you're phony, you're lying to me about your policies, and the many you start asking some specific questions about the engine or the mileage, you can see in his eyes and you can see in

his demeanor, now the fraud is exposed. And I think that's the bigger takeaway. with all of this when it comes to Kamala. Her bad hand is, her bad poker hand is, she's being phony. She's not for a border wall. She's not for all of these policies. She is who she was in 2019, and she's trying to pretend with her bad hand

that she's somebody else running for president. You know, I take an even deeper analysis of it. I see it as scary because when you ask her a question that she doesn't have rehearsed or researched answer for, that's when intuition kicks in. That's when experience kicks in. You should be able to navigate that trap based on all the other moments in your life. You're in a similar situation.

That's what communication is. It's also how you make decisions. So if you put her in the situation room and she's about to give the green light to sending rockets from a ship into Gaza so that we can get some hostages out of there, and somebody comes in and says, hang on just a second. We just got this piece of information completely changes the script. how does she work her way through that? Her ability to analyze and process information on the spot and arrive at a conclusion is important to me if she's going to lead my country in a time of what looks like war on all continents. And so, you know, I'm not trying to blow up her answer

to a question like, have you made a mistake. But all I have is the opportunity to analyze how she makes decisions and what she'll do in situations based on what she gives me. And this interview, unfortunately, is one of those precious pieces that she's given me because she hasn't done a lot of stuff to show her ability to make a decision on the spot. If you look back at even the debate, they followed script, even though it wasn't extra friendly to her, they followed scripts for her pretty well. So you didn't get a lot of those moments. But now in these interviews, you get a few of them here and there to where you have to look and say, when she's throwing a curveball, does she just swing or does she watch it? You know, they're bringing a sports analogy. And does she

learn it for the next time it comes. The evidence is she doesn't, and that's what concerns me. Listen, there's no way I'm going to sit here and tell you that I think President Trump's going to bat a thousand and make the right decision every time. But I do not, and that's enough sometimes. That's a great point regarding the revelation about what it means about in the moment decisions. All right, I want to pivot to this. Joey is a well-known. I would say gun expert, both in practical usage and in hobby and he's had a life experience again both personally and professionally with firearms i found this joey as someone who's only ever done this as a hobbyist uh but over a lifetime of at least being around you know firearms as a generality mostly shotguns some

handguns and to a lesser extent rifles um i found this pretty eye opening and it's really getting no coverage so senate candidate for missouri Lucas Kuntz is running against Josh Hawley. He was visited by Adam Kinsinger, former Republican, and they went to a range, and there were reporters. So it was a political stunt. It was designed for publicity. They have ARs, and they're shooting.

And I think we have some pictures we can share on the screen. And for anyone listening on radio again, it's Kinsinger and Kuntz at a makeshift range of some sort. it looks like cans. Really, I'm going to try to be accurate, not hyperbolic in any way, Joey. 15 yards away, maybe? Maybe 15 yards away from the shooter?

It looks at about 10 or under. It looks pretty short. And it looks like there's some steel plate targets there. Is there still plate targets hanging underneath those bars? Maybe there is. I can't see the picture you're looking at, but I know the pictures he posted. And there were some still targets and like some bottles or cans as well.

exactly okay and it shows them shooting it let's call it 10 yards distance into at least cans and possibly some steel plates as well well what happened is and i don't know the facts completely joey on whether or not this was shrapnel or a bullet but a journalist covering this taking photos i believe could have been a print journalist took a hit um he's bleeding bleeding from his arm He's triaged up there. And cunts bragged about this, Joey, on social media. Like, great day at the range. Always bring your first aid kit.

It's stunning to me. Again, and this is where I defer to you. I mean, the distance, the targets, the firearm chosen at that distance, and somebody was wounded in some way. I don't know, man. I mean, Dick Cheney shot a guy in the face, and that was a big deal and should have been a big deal. This seems to me a big deal.

There's surface level and deeper, right? Service level is you look like an idiot for using a scoped AR to shoot a target 10 yards away, right? You just, you look like you don't know much about guns. The deeper part here is that when you don't know enough to even know what you should be embarrassed about to begin with, like he posted that because he has no understanding that the people. people out there with guns and that go to ranges understand that what you shoot at with a pistol, which is a big bulky bullet, not going that fast at 10 yards, is not what you shoot at with a rifle, which is an ergonomic bullet going a lot faster and designed with properties

to come apart when it hits something harder than itself. So the idea here is the safety concerns in shooting at a steel plate at 10 yards with a rifle is basic level understanding. of what you're shooting, what you're shooting it, and how to do it safely. You're trying to do a photo op to say, hey, I'm a Democrat, but I do guns too. And in doing your photo op, making a mistake, and then posting that mistake online, all you do is further drill down to the point that it's all a photo op. You don't know anything about guns. Chances are when you get in the office, you won't have any qualms with taking those guns away

because you obviously don't have any passion for them or understanding of those that do. and it really just shows this facade that politicians put out there. When Kelly Loughler ran for Senate here in Georgia, she goes and buys a $2,000 Philson outfit and hire somebody to take pictures of her in a cornfield with a gun and says she can hunt. People see right through that, you know? Like people see right through that.

That doesn't appeal to anyone. And so, and she was a Republican. I bring that up because we're fair and balanced. Be who you are. President Trump doesn't go out and take a picture next to a deer. He's never hunted probably a day in his life, and that's okay, because his sons do. He's connected to the issue that way, and we get it. President Trump and I, when it comes to defining masculinity, are on two ends of a spectrum. He's worn to suit his whole life. He probably

doesn't have a callous on his hands, but he knows how to walk into a room and own it and be the mean guy when he needs to, to get what he needs out of it and take care of his family. I, on the other hand, couldn't make my weight in a boardroom, probably, but I can go out and swing an axe or use a shovel, and I know how to do those things. Own who you are in the space you're trying to work in. I've known Adam Kinsinger for more than 10 years. When he was on the Hill in D.C., he was a frat boy. He hung around with Duncan Hunter and Murphy from Pennsylvania.

Look them up. They both left D.C. ashamed of everything they've done because they didn't handle themselves well. And he was right there in a mix with him. And I bring that up because he tries to have this moral authority on social media and in his new role as this like Republican heel on. the Democrat networks and like, man, you know, don't throw stones from glass houses, bro. You just don't, you're not relevant enough for any of these people to throw them back

or you'd be in a bad place right now. There's plenty of reputation on Adam Kinsinger to take that away in a heartbeat. And so, you know, if you're running for office against Josh Hawley, you know, I don't know. Maybe talk about policy. Maybe don't go do a photo op in a world that you don't participate in where somebody could get hurt in. Is this a naive assumption that, the guys who served in the military, Adam Kinsinger, Tim Walts,

I would assume have more familiarity with firearms. And that doesn't mean every firearm. I know that Tim Walts probably didn't handle 12-gauge shotguns in the military. I would think that Adam Kinsinger had some familiarity with a rifle. But I'm a little surprised at both of their buffoonery when it comes to firearms. Yeah, listen, the Marine Corps is the one exception. and that guy's the Marine Corps veterans, so shame on him. The Marine Corps has a standard that no matter what your job is,

you qualify on the rifle range the same way everybody else and include those in the infantry do at least once a year. The other services don't have that strict standard. Adam Kinsinger was an Air Force pilot, which means I don't know if he ever qualified with a rifle. He at least qualified probably with a pistol, and maybe he qualified with a rifle once in early training, and it's over a couple of days,

and he might not have revisited that skill set or that weapon again for the rest of his career. Same thing with Tim Walts. I mean, he was in a ground combat unit at some point. But if he spent all this time to National Guard getting ready to run for office, once you get high enough in rank, it's pretty easy to kind of not go to the range that day. And so, you know, at the end of the day, I learned more about guns getting out of the Marine Corps and becoming a hunter than I knew in the Marine Corps. I knew the weapon systems I used in the Marine Corps, and I learned principles of shooting that apply to everything. But I didn't learn every type of weapon out there.

and I certainly didn't learn the stuff that we normally use to hunt with. I had to learn that once I got out. I had to make friends and be invested in the culture. And that's what makes this so aggravating for those of us to advocate for the Second Amendment is, yes, so many politicians up there holding up diagrams that aren't even accurate trying to ban a weapon. They don't understand what characteristics make it that weapon to begin with. And Adam Kinsinger, and now this guy in Missouri are doing the same thing. All right, here comes the weave.

I promise we'd return to this. if you are interested in hearing both Joey and I on the naked, ugly face of the panic when it comes to Donald Trump stick around for just a few minutes while I weave into I actually am looking forward

to a rematch between Georgia and Texas. I feel pretty good, Joey. Now, first to the schedule. Vanderbilt, Arkansas, Kentucky, not the layups we thought they might be. The schedule not quite as easy as someone had suggested. There's also lurking

out there, a big rivalry game with a team that's currently only has one loss on their record, and that's Texas A&M. I feel pretty confident in the record and the test. The Texas that was on display against Georgia, here's what I think. This is a quick tangent into serious football, I think. I text you that night, your defense is really good. Your running game is pretty good. I think Texas's defense showed itself to be really good in that game.

I mean, they gave up 30 points, but those were like on drives of 30 yards, 13 yards. Yeah, because the offense was so bad. Yeah. Because the offense was so bad. And I just have to believe that with Steve Sarkees and Quinn yours, maybe, maybe, Arch Manning and all the weapons, that there can be a different Texas offense, even with a very good defense from Georgia. So, man, I'm ready for that rematch. And by the way, I think you should be concerned about your quarterback. I think you should have some real concerns about Carson Beck.

I'll give you the funny and serious answer. Carson Beck dates, one of those twins that are like Instagram, TikTok famous. They play volleyball or basketball or something at some college. Cavender twins? And he's going around making TikTok videos with her, driving a Lamborghini Uris sports car, and he needs to get his mind back in football. He needs to be humbled. He needs her to break up with him.

He needs the car to blow a tire, and he needs to be on shoe leather express, walk into practice with nothing else to worry about. Because, I mean, let's face it, he's not the most attractive guy. He needs to be good at football to keep those things, and he needs to understand that. So I agree with you completely. He needs to refocus. Now, he's shown in years past. He has a skill set.

But there's a difference between knowing you have the ability and executing it. This is what I'll tell you my analysis of that game. These are NFL teams. It's good on good, first, second, third stream. The talents there, the experience may not be. The difference between a Super Bowl winning team coming in and scoring 30 points and a Super Bowl capable team coming in and scoring 15 points might be misunderstanding one formation that other team does. I mean, when they're that good, you can blow the doors off quickly and you can recover quickly. A 15 to 30 game between Texas and Georgia could have been a 30 to 28 game, 45 to 30 game where Texas wins just as easily with one of those turnovers not happening.

So when you have two teams that are that good and both quarterbacks struggle with holding on to the ball, the score is not indicative of where those teams are. I think this is the best thing Texas could have had. And to the point that you're making, I'll tell you one place that Georgia absolutely dominated Texas coaching. Kirby Smart's defense was genius and shut down this genius of Steve Sarkeesian. Okay, there we go. That is until next time, which next time will hopefully be in the SEC championship game, Georgia, Texas.

Okay, finally, Joe, you and I were both pretty fired up last night, and you were really fired up, and I really appreciated it from you. So yesterday, the Atlantic reports that Donald Trump praises Hitler's generals. I said they've thrown the kitchen sink at Donald Trump today. Well, they ran out seemingly, seemingly in fulfillment of Mark Halpern's prediction that there was some sex story that could bomb Donald Trump's campaign. We're going to get to that in a moment here on the Wilcane show. But they also ran out an Atlantic story where Donald Trump praises Hitler, every new cycle, every, everyone is running with, basically Donald Trump is Hitler today. But also in that article was a story about Donald Trump offering to pay for the funeral of a fallen soldier, female, Mexican American, and when he got the bill, suppose he said, $60,000, it doesn't cost that much to bury a Mexican. That's the story.

Now, to that, that fallen soldier, Vanessa Gien, her family, has come out and go, no, that is not. That is no way how our interactions went with Donald Trump. There's no way I believe that story to be true, so forth. Well, Joey, this was shocking, and I pulled the tweet because this is the one to set you off, and it really inflamed me as well. This is George Conway, former Republican strategist, Lincoln Project, so forth. He tweeted, no one is exploiting your sister's death here. in direct response, as you know, Joey,

to Maya Gien, Vanessa's sister. He says to her on X, no one is exploiting your sister's death here. This isn't about her. It's about Trump's sociopathic behavior. He displays it publicly and privately in his contempt for anyone else's lives,

including those of men and women in uniform who made the ultimate sacrifice. And that's apparent to anyone who chooses, unlike you, to open their eyes. George Conway lecturing a gold star family and while he was the worst of it Joey I feel like he wasn't alone the author of the article Jeffrey Goldberg also kind of took this tact like Goldstar families don't know what they're talking about in this situation and I just Joe I this is me like

this is the corner to animal analogy this is the wild animal backed into a corner how does it react this is panic i feel like what we're witnessing is panic they're losing to trump i think the throwing everything against the wall everything against the wall to see what will stick and they're lashing out at anybody that's like no that doesn't stick yeah there's a couple things here really kind of pissed me off about this number one george conway knows better he's been around forever he's probably 40 years older than that girl that he's typing to on twitter And it's just the idea that this 40 years older man who has an established platform of millions of followers is choosing that for his partisan target, a young lady who lost her sister. And let me explain to the audience.

So listen, Vanessa didn't die on the battlefield. Vanessa was murdered by another soldier, all right? When we talk about reforms that need to happen, all right, President Trump is willing to challenge any general in the military if he feels like their ego and their political. priorities are outweighing how the military should perform and will perform. That's huge for people like Vanessa that are murdered by someone that might not should have been in that unit to begin with, that had a history of being told on for beating somebody up or being mean to her. I forgot exactly what his history was. Joey's breaking up a little bit here. We're having some connection troubles. And so for Vanessa's sister, there's probably an even

deeper concern here on getting President Trump elected because she sees the Army. that her sister was eventually serving in, and it's not a good one. And so if you take all of the George Conway and these political, you know, assets out of it that are just really showing their butt, there's actually an issue here worth talking about. You know, President Trump is crass, but look at the military when he was in office. Look at the VA when he was in office. I don't care if he said suckers and losers at all because I don't know what context that was in. I could see him looking at there and going, they treated these guys like suckers and losers.

Or these guys died in Vietnam and they were taken for suckers and losers. I don't know. I got to put that man in context on anything he says. We just talked about the hyperbole he uses. And quite honestly, I could care less if he has reverence for my service. If him being president means, I can go get medical care through the VA choice rather than at a VA that is so bureaucratically stagmired or quagmired. I can't do anything with it. I don't care if he likes me.

I don't care if we have the same hobbies or share the same sentiment. I care about the policies he puts in place. And even if he just puts him in place because he likes being popular, they're effective. Let's go. And I think that's what Vanessa's sister saying.

You know, something interesting you said about the suckers and losers, which I just don't believe. But even if I were to believe that those words crossed his lips, to your point, Joey, I would need to almost hear it directly, like see the video,

understand the context, because at this point, it's such a boy who, Wolf syndrome on anything that Trump says that I would be curious, well, what did he say, as you point out in context or what did he say directly before and after that? Just between Bloodbath and Dictator for a day and very fine people, you know, I don't believe any hearsay slash report on something that he said unless I get to see the entirety of what he said. And I also think his behavior as president doesn't back up that that would be what he would say exactly as

report that he said it. But, um, and great point on, on Vanessa and the deeper lying issues. I just think to me, we've reached this wild moment now, this wild moment election. And it's characterized finally by how this story from the Atlantic is playing out in the wider ecosphere and what I think reeks of panic. And I'll give you Kamala Harris, who tweeted the following, uh, yesterday. She's, she tweeted out. Donald Trump is out for unchecked power. He wants some military like Adolf Hitler had, who will be loyal to him, not our constitution. He is unhinged, unstable, and given a second term, there would be no one to stop him for pursuing his worst impulses. I mean, it is now, Joey, I think the brakes are off. And there's still

two weeks to go. I don't even know how much more you can ramp it up. But there is no civility. There is no temperance. There is no attempt for accuracy. I think both from the candidate and the surrounding media support chamber, it's now a train without breaks. And I don't know what this train crashes into in the next two weeks. Yeah, I think it crashes into one or two scenarios. Donald Trump wins in a proverbial landslide, taking pretty much every swing state.

If it's close, I think Kamala Harris wins. And I can't really, substantiate why I think that, but I don't think he wins a close race because I think it really comes down to our people, off on this threat to democracy or not, because that's really the, that's the hanging out their part. There aren't a lot of arguing over the economy was better under Trump. The border was better under Trump. We had less wars under Trump. Kamala Harris has put all of her eggs in this basket of, yeah, our policy is but I'll do better on that if you'll just believe me that he is

the embodible. And I guess if she can convince people of that, then, you know, maybe it is close and she wins, but I just don't see people buying that. I don't see people, honestly, I think most people think most politicians are kind of scummy. And I don't know how saying that guy's scummy as a way to convince them to vote for you because they probably already thinking about you. I mean, in my world, in my social world, that's how we interpret the majority of politicians. It's the rare ones that seem authentic and seem like good people that stand out because the default is you're probably scummy. So if your best argument is this, guy's a crony. Well, you know what? To go up there with all the rest of the cronies, right?

He is the author of Unbroken Bonds of Battle. He's a big fan of the Georgia Bulldogs. He is a Fox news contributor. He's my friend Joey Jones. All right, man, I really appreciate all the time, and I appreciate all of the analysis here today on the Will Cane Show. Take care, Joey. Go dogs. It's interesting that Kamala Harris's closing argument, as Joey points out, is that Donald Trump is akin to Hitler and a threat to democracy. When Joe Biden exited the race and was running that same theme, Kamala Harris tried a new theme. She tried joy.

She tried substance to some extent. They retired threat to democracy. This was about in August around Labor Day because internal polling reportedly showed it wasn't working. It's not working to continually call him a threat to democracy. What more, it's led to two assassination attempts on his life. life. It's interesting now that every card having been played, again, these bad poker players, the final card they're reaching for is the one they already suspected was a loser. They're going

back to threat to democracy. They're going back to Hitler. What does that mean? Throwing the kitchen sink at Hitler? We'll tell you the bombshell, the bombshell that was supposed to end Trump next on the Wilcane show. on july 18th get excited this is big for the summer's biggest adventure i think i just smurf my pants that's a little too excited sorry smurfs only dinners july 18th what is a bombshell what is a bombshell what could end trump it's the will cane show streaming live at foxnews.com on the Fox News YouTube channel, click on the text description underneath this live stream streaming every Monday through Thursday live at 12 o'clock Eastern time. And there's a little

button with subscribe to the Wilcane show. Hit subscribe. Or if you're listening on radio, head over to Spotify or Apple and hit subscribe to the Will Kane show. Journalist Mark Halperin suggested a few days ago that a story was being shopped around that could end Donald Trump. He said he didn't necessarily believe the story and it had been passed on by the live. of CBS and CNN and other legacy mainstream outlets. There was a sense of anticipation, perhaps doom. What could this possibly be? What could it be this bombshell?

It was not the story from the Atlantic, suggesting that Trump once again likes Hitler. And on that note, just as a side note, but I think a good little historical tangent, I keep seeing this and I keep thinking, even when you hear it from the types like Adam Kinzinger, Republicans who somehow think Trump is beyond the pale, I want to say, you know, I remember when George W. Bush was Hitler. Like, I remember that. Anyone else listening or watching,

remember that? I'm not talking figuratively. I'm talking rhetorically. Literally, they said George W. Bush is Hitler. I remember Mitt Romney being turned into a private school bully, forced other boys down, cut their hair, and strapped his dog to his roof. Didn't go so far as to say he's Hitler, but definitely said he had binders full of women and he hated black people. I just remember that the people you celebrate today, like the Cheney's, yesterday were Darth Vader. And it's not just my memory in my lifetime. I think that some historical context might be good. I think everyone listening, if you're on the fence, or how better yet, if you're for Kamala Harris, or you have a friend who makes the argument that Donald Trump is a threat

to democracy. I just want to see what you think. Drop into the comments. Let me know what you think. When I share with you this bit of historical context, this is a headline from the New York Times from 1948. 1984. Headline reads, President Likens Dewey to Hitler as fascist tool says when bigots, profiteers get control of country, they select, quote, front man to rule dictators. To rule dictatorship, stressed Truman, tells Chicago audience that a Republican victory will, that a Republican victory will threaten U.S. liberty. Truman says GOP perils U.S. liberty. Back in the day, New York Times headlines were very long. But back in the day, the message was still the same. Harry Truman, Democrat, run against Thomas Dewey, Republican. And what does Truman accuse of Dewey?

fascism bigot Hitler nothing new is under the sun not even the tax against Donald Trump the bombshell that Halpern promised us

seems to have been perhaps perhaps but I'm actually skeptical seems to have been a story that dropped in The Guardian after CBS, CNN and Oliver Legacy mainstream media outlets

rejected the story a second tier third tier journalistic enterprise the Guardian accepts A story from a 1990s model who says she was with Jeffrey Epstein walking down the street when he said, let's go to Trump's place. She goes with Epstein to Trump's place and is groped by Trump.

That's the story. A couple of interesting notes. I've seen it suggested the year she put that she was walking from Jeffrey Epstein's Manhattan mansion was 93. He didn't buy it until 96. She went on, confirmed to work for Obama, this model, as something like a clean air, czar climate, something for Obama. It's unsourced.

It's not credible. No one believes it. No one's really much even talking about it. And it made me wonder, is this what Halpern is talking about? Like, if true, it could end Trump's campaign? I got to thinking, like, why would someone think this could end Trump's campaign? Is it the connection to Epstein? Like the effort in the last two weeks

will be to connect them to somebody like Epstein and to Hitler? I'm serious when I ask you this and I ask you boys in New York, like, what would, let's step aside for a moment. Just analyze the public for a minute. What would serve as a bombshell? Because what I would offer you is

even if this story were true, right? And there's no suggestion that it is true. I don't think it meets the standard laid out. out by Halperin. I don't think, if true, it would end Donald Trump. And I think that for a couple of reasons, well, first of all, I think the public is totally desensitized to these attacks. And specifically when it comes to, oh, Trump is whatever he is with women, it's just been done. So there's no new one that you're going to run out. Also, by the way, same thing, Boy Who Cried Wolf scenario. There have been so many fake stories, so much misinformation, that no one's actually going to believe it, even if true,

at this point. And by the way, that cynicism's earned. That's not an indict. on MAGA. That's an indictment on the storyteller. That's an indictment on the boy, not the wolf. That's an indictment on the media. But I would even say to you this. I don't know what kind of story would serve. Like, oh, that's going to do it. Like, just as a thought exercise, two things. What if it's, like, Trump with a minor? I don't know. Okay, then you're like, well, but prove it to me. That's a hell of an allegation. Prove it to me. And I saw Glenn Beck say this yesterday. At this point, and I'm serious about this,

because I think this is important for all of us going forward, all of us. Obviously, we don't trust the storyteller. I don't trust somebody telling me what Trump said. I don't Trump, somebody telling me what Trump did? Okay, Will, what if there were a video of it, whatever the allegation is? What if there's a video of it?

And this is what I saw Glenn Beck say, I do now live in the age of AI. Like, what am I supposed to do with a video? Of course, like my inclination for, most of my life is, I believe a video. I believe it. But like, is that not changed like in the past six months? Like, do we, don't, in the last six months of our life, all of us like, no video, no proof, no

belief. All of a sudden, now I'm like, well, if there's video, do I even believe? We're in a totally new age, and I don't know what could end Trump. Go ahead, James. I think the only thing that would, that story would have maybe ended it or at least gotten the margins different was if it was irrefutable evidence that he was. in on what Jeffrey Epstein was doing. And my guess is that that's the way the story was pitched to everyone, proof that Trump and Epstein were in it together. And you could tell that's

kind of what the story alluded to, but the language in the story on The Guardian was so watered down that you couldn't even, they didn't even fully go there. They just kind of said, uh, maybe. And of course, they water it down because they don't want to open themselves up to a defamation suit. But also, okay, if, if that's the allegation that is a bombshell that quote unquote would be true, right? And I don't know what source of proof would serve that we could all come to agreement, oh my gosh, this could be actually true, right? But let's say that existed.

Trump is somehow irrefutably connected to Epstein. Then there's the timing. If that's true, why did that not come out for the past decade? And why would that not come out until two weeks before an election? Further making us believe, I don't believe it's true. like the motivations are too stark and too crisp and by the way we can be adults we all know everyone listening everyone watching well a political operative that had this proof would hold it if they had that proof they might hold it okay but would a journalist hold it would a journalist participate you know

and then the journalist isn't a storyteller they're not a reporter they're part of a political agenda if they're willing to hold it right they're not a trustworthy source or storyteller they're an operative. And so I think the whole thing of timing impugns as well, the truth. Go ahead, tinfoil, Pat. So I think, you know, you're right about timing, but what you said earlier about Harris, kind of being an old school politician, I think she's playing by old rules. And so something like an October surprise this close to the election day, that could actually have a major impact. But now the fact that everything's going so fast and people need time to, like, really focused on it in order to get those connections to of trump to hitler or trump to epstein you need

you need to like really punch that for like a couple months in order to get it you think that's unique here's a thought exercise is that unique to trump if it were um glen yonkin as candidate for president virginia governor republican and then something like this happened i see your salute james if something like this happened could this old rule that you're talking about Patrick end Glenn Yonkin but can't end Trump

you see what I'm saying? Have the rules changed or is it the character character? It's unique to Trump go ahead Dan I think it's the character I mean I think anybody else any of these things would have taken him down he's above any of these things at this point not that he should be or anything

like that but I mean nobody should be I know, I know, I know, Dan, you want to be fair. But here's the thing, I know you want to be fair. And I know you want, you know, that also you don't, you know, and I like to acknowledge bias. You don't lean as far as I do to the right. But the cynicism and why these things don't stick is not about Trump. It's about everyone else, the storyteller.

It's the boy. It's not the wolf. You see what I'm saying? No one should believe anything about Trump. And the thing is, those same people would be the ones telling us about Yonkin, but with Trump, we have a decade of obviousness, not only on the agenda, but on the lack of trustworthiness from the boy, right? What I'm curious about is if it goes to a Yonkin or DeSantis or whatever it may be, do the old rules come back that Patrick's talking about, do does the public, and I'm not talking about somebody that's already on the right, the swingable vote, trust the storyteller. now or is the storyteller's credibility permanently burned and it would apply to anyone even someone not named Donald Trump? Go ahead, James. I think prior to this election cycle, people knew CNN and

MSNBC were biased, but CBS, ABC and NBC to the everyday voter still had that veneer of their just kind of the straight 6 o'clock news. And I heard from a lot of Democrats after the two debates in the fall that were saying, hey, they were saying, hey, we thought our candidate either won or didn't do as well we thought in Trump was horrible, but yeah, those moderators were really biased, and I think that goes away and kind of seeping that into the public's narrative that, oh, wait, we might have a media bias problem. But it's also not just a storyteller, it's exhaustion. It's the umpteenth story with Trump, right?

And how many of them have been proven false and so forth, or not to matter to people. So it's like the umpteenth story with Trump with someone new, like a young kid or Desantis, if it were like the first time you ever heard some explosive thing about him and it was somehow true and by the way the truth should be analyzed with skepticism just like with trump still because of the storyteller but the novelty of it might have a bigger impact i don't know the longest of what i'm getting at is i can't believe this would be the bombshell um hinted at by halpern and what i would suggest is the kitchen sink has been thrown but that doesn't mean there's nothing left they're going to clean out the cabinet like i said earlier get ready for the windex the wrench

even the piping underneath the sink is going to be thrown. I would imagine on a 48-hour cycle over the next two weeks. Let's break down if it's affecting the independent voter in Pennsylvania. David Marcus coming up on the Will Cain Show. It is time to take the quiz. It's five questions in less than five minutes. We ask people on the streets of New York City to play along. Let's see how you do.

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I have an answer to your butt to what bombshell would it take to, um, to like knock Trump out. I think you'd need irrefutable evidence of him flying coach. And I think if America saw that, but that's the only thing I can really imagine. You know what's funny that you bring that up? One of the producers in the commercial break said, what if there was like video of a hit and run? You know, like Trump hit somebody with a car and took off running. And I was like, well, I can't even picture Trump driving. Like, when's the last time he drove a car? Like, you know what I mean? I'm like,

this isn't all that new, man. Ted Kennedy, like, got away with killing a woman, right? And that was like before I was born. I don't know. Yeah. But look, this, to your point about the voters, man, this stuff is like, I'm in Allentown.

I'll probably be in PA the rest of the way. And I've been in PA all week. This weekend, I was very curious. I was back home this weekend when that whole bizarre, are like Trump's exhausted and senile news. started and I was so curious to get back on the road and see like if anybody thinks that Donald Trump is exhausted and of course they don't because it's it's so manifestly absurd that it's one of these things when I talk to voters that they'll start laughing that you know

they see what's going on and like look how fast they turned on that after the McDonald's thing right it was like that disappeared and now he's back to being a tireless evil genius Mm-hmm. Well, does that resonate? Does that resonate with people in Pennsylvania? I said earlier, that was Joe Biden's theme, right? That Joe Biden was running with Trump as a threat to democracy. When Kamala kicked off, she distanced herself from that theme.

And if you'll notice, it was like in August and early September, you stopped hearing that phrase, threat to democracy. You really did. Like, it was retired. And it was a conscious decision by the Harris campaign. Because the presumption is it wasn't working. But as we enter the home stretch now, they're back to it. They're going with, that's their closing argument, threat to democracy.

There's nothing left, right? I mean, there's nothing for her to do at this point. When I, I've, the last two weeks in particular, I've been very curious to speak with Democrats, the ones that will speak with me because it gets a little hard, right? As I put in my column, it's like, you know, my friends who are Mets fans who are like, You know, I couldn't shut them up two weeks ago. They lose to the Dodgers. And it's like, oh, you want to talk about the baseball game anymore?

Right. And so, I mean, it's kind of like, and Democrats just is like, I don't really want to discuss this. You know, but the ones who do, I mean, several of them have been very upfront about the fact that, like, they just don't feel like Harris offers much, right? They really are voting for the generic Democrat. You're getting, I know you're making a joke, but I actually find some real interesting. interesting nugget there. You're getting Mets lost the series vibe in their willingness to talk to you. When you first said it's hard to get a Democrat to talk to you, I kind of thought you were talking about because you're affiliated with Fox. But what you're telling me is a malaise like this is already

lost. Is that what you're saying? Like, you know, of course, a sports fan stops talking about their team once they've lost or even in the game. If, you know, my team is losing, I stopped talking. I stopped tweeting you're getting that vibe from the Harris Democrats like okay we're losing i'm not interested in talking about this yeah i mean they're literally saying i think she's losing a month and a half ago most of them said they expected her to win now most of them do not expect them to which isn't weird i mean we see this in the prediction markets we see this sort of like in the general buzz it was one day the other day it was like rCP was just like last week it was like every headline was just like you know should we have stuck with biden or you know and and that's a kind of

conversation I hear from people, is she actually doing better than than Biden would have? And I don't know if we know the answer to that. But yeah, look, I've consistently found throughout this cycle that the ground is about a week ahead of the polls. And I think I know why. I think the reason is that the type of person who's going to sit down with me or Selena or somebody else for half an hour, 40 minutes and talk about politics, they're a pretty savvy political. follower, right? They're probably some of them. They don't have a Twitter account. There's someone who's paying very close attention. In the same way that like back in the day, you would see stuff break on X and then like 12 hours later it's on Facebook, right? And there was that

gap. Now there's a lot more people on Facebook, right? So you're seeing it faster on X, but it really saturates once it hits Facebook. That kind of happens with public opinion where you start to feel it from people and then you start seeing it in the polls. And this past week of pull, you know, I'm not a big polls guy, man, but it's just, it's a refutable. I mean, she's just, she's dropping five, six points over a month in the same poll. Do you, so you talk to people reluctantly, their, their reluctance to talk to you who are Democrats. Are you finding out there many undecides, David? And if you are, the secondary follow-up is that does threat to democracy hit that undecided person? No, no.

I've definitely met Democrats who are voting against Trump and even a few independents are voting against Trump who have cited January 6th and threats to democracy and things like that. The most, there's a couple buckets of undecided voters who I've met by the overwhelmingly largest. one are the people who basically liked Trump's policies, but they really don't like him. And I don't mean, like, he's a braggard. I mean, they really, they really dislike him. They find him immoral and base and terrible. Those are the undecided voters. And some of them say, whatever, I'm not electing a pope.

I'm electing a president. And they'll go do it. For others, it's still hard. the question for that person and i think you're right there are a lot of people who don't who like his policies but don't like him is that enough to vote for comla harris that's the big calculus i have i want you to answer that and then i have a follow-up do you think that's enough for them then to go to comla harris no no and i think that's where you know and i don't think this is something i'm really going to be able to write about until after the election but i think one thing

that got forgotten in all of this is that Joe Biden is one of the top five most gifted politicians of his generation. I mean, even in the current state that he's in. He's an incredibly gifted politician in a way that, like, Kamala Harris just never has been. Biden did a lot that frustrated Trump. If you think about it like a, you know the thing that Biden would do? You know how Biden would start saying something about Trump and then he'd go, well, I better not. I better not say what I'm thinking. You know that thing that Biden would always do? Yeah. That was smart, man. Yeah, that was like a boxer, landing a jab and backing off. He would never get in tight and just throw punches with Trump, because that's what Trump wants to do. Harris just isn't good at politics.

She kind of got handed the district attorney's office and the AG's office and the Senate. And, you know, the American people aren't going to hand her this one. She's got to earn it. I don't think Biden would be doing better right now. Do you think he would? If he had stayed in the race, Would he be doing better than Harris? I think the senility thing had gotten too powerful, too strong, and wasn't going to go away. And I think the casual political observer has started to notice, you can't have a president of the United States

who is losing his marbles. Well, I mean, he's still president of the United States. I mean, we still send him out there. Right. I mean, he is. Well, you can't have another four years of it. Right. But I mean, okay.

Yeah, look, I don't know. I think he'd be doing better in Pennsylvania. I mean, I think that, like, I mean, there's a reason he called him scrans. and joe where i'm going tomorrow so i'll see okay last question for you david so that i'm fascinated by this person that you described let's call them undecided maybe swing i don't know what we call them independent they like trump's policies they hate him as a person they're having to decide are they going to hold their nose for trump then or are they going to hold their nose for comala

um it could be argued that a big swath of those people listen to joe rogan it could be argued Now, I'm not sure it's the same person you're running into in the small towns and bars and factory workers in Pennsylvania, but they may be in the suburbs, they may be somewhere else, they held that same position. I really like his policies. I hate him as a person. Do you think that Joe Rogan appearance, which is scheduled for Friday, carries more positives or negatives potentially for Trump? I definitely think positives. And one thing that's, you know, I've never been a big believer in endorsements, right? And I noticed like celebrity endorsements, things like that really mattered very much.

But I don't know if you noticed like the other day Dave Ramsey, the like financial radio guy. Yeah. Came out and endorsed Trump. And I think Trump is in a unique case as far as endorsed. Yeah. And, and Trump's in a unique case because every one of these kind of. of like normal people who was like, you know what, I've gotten over it. I'm just going to vote for the guy. To that point that we were just talking about, kind of gives permission to people

to say, all right, I don't like the salacious stuff. I don't like, you know, the, that is sometimes name calling, rhetoric, whatever. Relationship with the truth, whatever it is. But those guys really do, I think, give a lot of cover. And so, yeah, I think for him to go on Rogan and be able to do that. I mean, look, those things are risky for both sides. sides, right? I don't know that he'd do the full three hours, but even an hour. I mean, this close to the end, it's always going to be a risk to sit down on scripted for an hour. No doubt. He has experience. You know, I'm not going to cite anyone in particular, but I can think of

someone who kind of checks the boxes of what you just described, you know, in on a lot of his policies, totally out on him as a person. And then they watched him on Andrew Schultz or Theo Vaughn or whatever it may be, and you're like, oh, I didn't really ever see that side of his personality or who he is as a person. And that's what he, that's the potential positive. The negative is the unscripted, whatever it's going to be, 90 minutes with Joe Rogan that's going to be clipped up and it used in who knows how many ways. The positive is showing the other side to the human to a new audience. It probably isn't often that exposed to it and is their biggest hang up about Trump yeah and and and the humor I mean the understanding to humor is is so important

understanding Trump's use of hyperbole understanding when he's serious and when he's not serious I mean you know this goes all the way back to to 2016 but like the more I think the reason that the that the McDonald's thing like set everybody on the left's hair on fire is that that's authentically him and he's charming and funny and and that you boy The left really can't let people see that because then when they take something out of context about dictator on day one or whatever it is, everybody goes, oh, no, that's just Trump being Trump. Right. And that's David Marcus being David Marcus. Checking in was like he always does from the road, this time, Allentown, Pennsylvania.

His columns, you should check them out at Fox News.com. And we appreciate him, as always, being here with us on The Will Kane Show. Thank you, David. All right, that's going to do it for us. today we had a big schedule for you just so you know on the week of the election we're going to have special longer two-hour shows and on election day special time from a live location i'm going to tell you more about that make sure you stay tuned we're going to have a ton of guests lined up for that week to carry us through to hang out together to analyze to talk about to understand

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