Will Cain Country - War On Woke! Plus, Rachel Campos-Duffy

Episode Date: May 28, 2024

Story #1: As OutKick's Bobby Burack fills in for Will, he explains how the media and the ruling class controls the message that you see, but you, the average American control the result. Story #2: What happens to a country when its citizens stop loving it? A conversation with Outkick Reporter David Hookstead and Author of 'Alpha Kings' Nick Adams (Alpha Male). Story #3: Are you self-censoring? A conversation with FOX & Friends Weekend Co-Host Rachel Campos-Duffy on that and more. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Number one, the minority, the media, the ruling class controls the message that you see. But we're going to tell you why you, the working class, and average Americans ultimately control their result. Number two, what happens to a country when the people in that country stop loving it that's happening right now? we're going to get into that and three self-censorship are you self-censoring we'll get into that with uh fox news host rachel campo stuffy i'm bobby burack filling in for will kane today uh will's off for the week you can find me over at outkick covering politics sports media culture it is the will kane show streaming on fox news radio fox news facebook at foxnews com.

Rachel's going to join us in a moment, but I wanted to begin with this, talking to different Americans in different fields. You speak to them, and the most common complaint they have is that they feel helpless that this really isn't their country, that sure they vote, but the people in charge don't listen to them, that they've completely lost control of American culture, which in a of ways is exactly what the messengers want you to believe but it's not true i don't think enough attention has been brought to what's happening over the past say 14 months next month june is pride month and that's when all these corporations plaster pride flags and LGBTQ coloring all over their

stores you remember last year target was at the forefront of that movement by introducing those creepy, tuck-friendly swimwear designs for little kids. It was basically allowing young kids to tuck in their genitalia that they don't want people to know they have by calling it tuck-friendly swimwear. But Americans responded by not just not buying those products, but rebelling against Target, one of the leading retailers in the entire country. You know, that first week after Target promoted that swimwear, they lost $9 billion in market cap. That month, when it ended, they lost $15 billion. You did that.

Not some PR firm, not marketers, not some journalists from the New York Times. You stopped buying products at Target. And what was the result? They announced two weeks ago, they're going to tone back Pride Month. They're not going to put swimwear for trans kids at the front of the store anymore. Very similar phenomenon happened with Bud Light. It's a few months prior. You remember, they teamed up with Dylan Mulvaney, this trans activist who celebrates being a girl.

And Bud Light had one of the biggest boycotts, at least in recent memory. Bud Light was the number one beer company for 22 years. They're not anymore. They weren't after people stopped buying Bud Light. Parent company Anheiser Bush lost around $27 billion in value when the Bud Light boycott started. Disney is one of the main entertainment companies in American history. Last year, they leaned totally into that same LGBTQ agenda, having films where male characters kissed each other, held hands. And American families responded by not going to see Disney films anymore.

In their last seven major releases, they lost $400 million. So what does that mean? It means that what it's always meant. The working class still controls this country. The people in power, you enable. You vote for them. You buy their products. You go see their movies.

But what happens when the working class says no? we don't agree with this trajectory we don't like this sort of gender ideology being instilled on our kids and all of those companies are now trying to beg for forgiveness target changed their entire pride month philosophy disney is now trying to cater towards middle america and families that just want entertainment you know bud light spent over a hundred million dollars teaming up with the ufc the most masculine brand in sports, to try to bring back and appease to some of those lost customers. So while you're led to believe you're powerless, that you have no control, it's a lie. At the end of the day, you're seeing most people agree with you.

They're not for these creepy blue-haired minions trying to convince your kid that gender doesn't matter and they can change their gender like it, some sort of dress. It's a lie, and we're going to explore that deeper. But I'll leave you with this. Ultimately, the vocal minority controls the message. They tell you what to believe. But their message is not indicative of society at large.

The silent majority, to which I assume most of listeners are a part of, they control the result. This is your country, not theirs. And with that, I bring on two people who I think are some of the most patriotic people. online and David Hookstead from Outkick and my buddy Nick Adams alpha male guys thanks for coming on Bobby Burak. Great to be with you and David absolutely David I want to start with you are you as encouraged as I am that Americans still can take back culture and fight back against whether it's DEI or transgenderism or any of these other concepts that I think have infested us and make us believe that this isn't our country anymore.

Certainly, I agree. Great monologue. That was a hell of a way to start it off. And there's no doubt it feels like the tide is finally turning, whether it's Bud Light, having to grovel and spend $100 million to get back in the good graces of regular dudes, whether it's college campus, frat bros rising up and say, we're not going to have your Hamas sympathizing,

Paris loving people here. The tide is shifting. There are consequences when you upset regular working class. people and companies are finally starting to figure that out. So well said, Nick. Bobby, listen, first of all, let me take the opportunity to congratulate you on this guest hosting gig. I've been a big fan of yours for a long time.

You deserve it. We love the work that you do. And then for my appearance today on with you to be paired with none other than the great American hero, David Bookstead, I tell you what, this is a show. for the ages. We'll better be worried about getting to come back after we're done with this segment. But look, I think David's absolutely right, Bobby. The tide is shifting. It is turning. There is a discernible feeling out there. People have had enough. People have woken up to this woke stuff. They don't want to do it anymore. They understand the impact that's having on the

country. They understand the impact that's having on the culture. And they've said enough is enough. We don't want these things infiltrating every part of our life, every facet of our world. And I think that the more that time goes on, we're going to continue to see this great pendulum swinging back to normalcy where we're going to have American greatness once more realized at its full potential. And it's going to be a grand day, Bobby. Nick, I think that is so well said. David, my one concern, because you might say, well, why don't more Americans do this? And you get the sense that some of them have somewhat given up. Part of what made America the greatest country is for so long, people love this country.

There's a Gallup poll that came out two weeks ago that patriotism is at an all-time low. I believe only 42% of people say they're proud to be an American. What happens to a country when the people in it no longer love their country? The answer is very simple. The country will ultimately be destroyed. Now, I know the three of us here. We all love America. Nick loves America so much.

He came here just to be a citizen of this amazing, beautiful country. But the problem really stems at the root causes. Young people are not being taught all the awesome parts of this country. Instead, they're going to school. They're being indoctrinated. They're being told you're all racist. We're an evil empire. We're imperialist.

we crushed the week and in reality nothing could be further from the truth this country time and time again when the world is cried out for help whether it's june 6th 1944 in d-day or a natural disaster americans are always the first to put their hand up and say send me i will go i will make a difference that's how i grew up i'm sure that's how you grew up being taught that that's not what kids are being taught today and that's why you see the college insanity that's why you see people openly supporting osama bin laden in pocket about how his letter was so smart. It's a failure of education. We need to inspire young Americans to remember how amazing. This is the country that went to the moon, Bobby. This is the greatest country on earth. We will not apologize for it. And we have to teach young people that that is the fact of the matter. Nick, I know you're not going to apologize, right? You're never apologizing for anything. You got that right, Bobby. You got that right. What a hard act it is to follow David Hookstead. Look, once again, David has absolutely speared the animal.

He is exactly right. Ultimately, what happens to a country when it loses its love for itself, its people no longer feel a passion, a connection to it, then all of a sudden you lose that country. And it is absolutely tragic that the greatest country in the history of the world, on every barometer, that this nation would be going through this self-loathing in part of its population is just so sad a country that is the greatest that we've ever seen. I mean, has America made mistakes? Of course it has.

Just like any human being, it makes mistakes. But at the end of the day, this is the greatest force for good that we have ever seen. A world without America is not a world that we would want to live in. And there has been this attack on patriotism since the end of the Second World War. Instead of concluding what we should have concluded, which was that evil exists and evil must be

confronted, evil and tyranny must be defeated at all costs whenever it rears its head. Instead, somehow the elites and the left and the academics, they convinced us all that the greatest crime of World War II, the greatest reason that World War II happened was patriotism. So there has been this war on what is a virtue, I believe, of patriotism since then. And the left have made everyone feel that if you're patriotic, then there's something wrong with you. You are too basic. You're a Neanderthal.

There is nothing more natural, Bobby. And David will tell you this. There is nothing more natural than loving one's country. loving where someone is born, where someone is raised, where someone benefits from that society and that culture. And I was someone that was attracted to it. I wasn't born in it. But I came as quickly as I possibly could because I wanted to be a part of it. Why do the people in charge of this country, and they're the ones doing it, why do they want us to hate this country? They're the ones convincing us that we're all racist, that we need to atone for the sins of our ancestors,

that American culture is so fractured. We need these new progressive methods to fix it. What's behind all this? The answer is that these people are... Sorry, go ahead, Nick. No, no, you go for it. Got for it. These are weak people, Bobby.

And weak people implode upon themselves and they live miserable, angry, selfish, soulless lives. And they want to take that pain and they want to put it on the rest of us. They want us to be just as miserable as they are. When I'm sitting at a bar having a couple beers with my buddies watching college football, they genuinely look at that lifestyle and they hate it. And they would do anything to take that away from us.

They would do anything to take that joy away from us. And really, it just comes down to they look at us. They see what we enjoy. Like Nick said, they think we're Neanderthals. They will do anything to ruin it. And we have to hold the line. We have to say there's a point you cannot cross. There's a point we will not allow you to go.

We are not giving up our way of life, our hobbies and what we enjoy just because you want to turn us into a neutered society. It's not going to happen. We're going to tell him to get bent, Bobby. That's what we're going to do. I mean, there really is nothing else to be said other than to say, get bent, you lefties. I like it. If you don't like who we are, if you don't like what we do, no one is forcing you to stay here. Right. And at the end of the day, I love America. I'm here to support America. And the reason, Bobby, that these guys want us to hate America, what Americans to hate America is because you've got to understand it in the greater context. America is an oasis

in the world socialistic desert. It is the scar on the left's Mona Lisa. They've got everywhere else looking like what they want it to look like, but America doesn't. America says, America still, comparatively speaking, is unbelievably free. It's a place where you can choose to be you. And this drives the lefts, the left, the commies, the socialists, all of them, absolutely bonkers. It drives them stark, raving mad. And that's why America is in the crosshairs. That's why if the left had a playing deck of cards, America would be the most wanted.

And don't forget the feminists, because I see them online, there's no two people they hate more than you two. Bobby, I love feminists. Oh, you do. Oh, okay. As long as they don't have any influence in the society. Now, look, feminism started out great, but unfortunately what feminism has developed into is angry women and feminine men. Definitely. And that is not good for anybody.

Now, I've been known to upset the odd blue-haired feminist, and I make no apology for a Bobby, but at the end of the day, they're doing damage to America. I'm seeking to support America. I love that the young ladies of the United States of America today are doing better than they've ever done before. They are succeeding at college, they're succeeding at high school, they're entering the workforce. It's a wonderful thing.

But as a patriot, I worry about America. America's competitors. I worry about those that would seek to do America harm. And I'm thinking about China. I'm thinking about all of these other emerging powers. And ultimately, if we're going to have any chance of being able to compete with these guys, keep the American dream alive, remain number one. We need to have 100% of our population, 100% of our workforce. We need to be firing on all cylinders, not just 50% percent. percent and right now young men are doing it tough they're dropping out of high school at record highs they're applying for college at record lows the military is telling us that they can't recruit enough

young men are struggling and it's time that we give them a voice it's time that we fight back against this narrative that now for a couple of generations young men have heard which is that they need to atone for the sins of the past they need to get in the back seat they are the problem. No. We want young men to be confident. We want them to be assertive. We want them to be men. And that's going to benefit the whole country. And what benefits America doesn't only benefit America. It benefits the whole world. Yeah. That is such a wise point about young men. You look at studies, suicide rates, mostly rising in young men. They don't have much of a direction now. If they act like real men, they're told they're toxic and, you know, this is not

their country anymore. I mean, a lot of young white males are growing up having to know that they might not get a job strictly because they were born white males. David, one of the things I appreciate about you is you often talk about the future of this country and what young men need to do. say you were chatting with a group of just entering high school 15, 16 years old. What would you tell young males in this country about their future, what they should actually be caring about, and what message is they should be completely dismissing? Well, the number one message they should be completely dismissing is that this toxic masculinity turn that people love to throw around, that that means absolutely anything.

We've essentially squeezed out aggression and everything that makes teenage boys, young men. They should have an aggression streak. That can be a good thing. That's not a negative. If they see someone who desperately needs help, their inclination should be to step up and take care of that problem and look out for someone who can't help themselves. And yet you look at, you know, Daniel Penny in New York, he stops a violent person on a subway. He gets, he gets thrown in jail. They're trying to charge him with multiple serious felonies over that guy's death. Why would any man see that and say, you know what? I'm going to step up and protect innocent people because if I do, they'll slap the handcuffs on me and they'll throw me in prison right or wrong.

I mean, it's absolutely insane. When it comes to looking to the future, the thing, and maybe this will upset the same people Harrison Butker upset. Yeah. Care about your family. Care about your parents. Care about your siblings. Find a great woman.

I have a rock star of a girlfriend who I absolutely love. You are better off with good people around you. And if you can surround yourself with a loving spouse with kids, your life's going to be better off for it. And that is something, we don't tell young men anymore. And that doesn't mean you can't do many other things. Your life is better with good humans in it. And I really wish we would every day tell young men that. No question.

David Hoopstead, ladies and gentlemen, David Hoopstead. I know Will had told me when I was getting ready for the show, he's only done one round of applause live on the show. It was with you, Nick, when he first met you, you talked about this country. Will got up and clapped his hands. If I wasn't wired up right here, I would get up and... clap for David Hookstep because that point right there needs to be clipped and sent around everywhere. It was so well said and so important, particularly for young males who, again, I think it's one of our biggest concerns. These people are lost, they're lied to, and they

don't understand their place in society. That's a really dangerous thought. Before I let you guys go, David, this is the first show since Memorial Day. You have a column up about six heroes you think it's worth remember or absolutely that are worth remembering why have you taken upon yourself to highlight soldiers in the military so much i mean i know you pretty well other than your family i think spreading their message their legacy is the most important thing to you yeah absolutely that's why i host american joyride and it goes back to what nick had said earlier about being patriotic is a good thing it's not a bad thing it's not a negative at all it's a very big positive so When I look at these guys, whether it's Gary Gordon and Randy Shugart during Black Hawk Down who did a suicide mission, knowing they would die so that they could protect the teammate, just fighting wave after wave of enemy fighters, whether it's John Chapman and Afghanistan, the list goes on and on.

I pick six because it gives me the ability to go in-depth in their stories. You can read it on Outkick.com, but the reason it's important is because the lives we have, the lives that we were born into here in America, the life that Nick got here as fast as he could. none of this was free. I lost three family members in war. Two of them died in World War II in the Pacific and another one died in Korea. This is deeply personal to me. And it's important young people, again, I can't stress it enough. Young people, when you wake up and you see the sun and the beautiful blue sky, the beaches of Omaha, the beaches of Omaha in Normandy were stained red with the blood of American patriots so that we aren't all speaking German right now. And I say that a little bombastically, but it's 100% true. And if it's the last, thing I'll do, I keep my uncle's war medals in a safe literally right off screen here. It's the last thing I do. I will never apologize and I will never stop sharing the stories of American Patriots because we will never, ever let them be forgotten. I love that. And make sure to check out that article. Nick, you have a new interview for Outkick with Antonio Brown. So I'll keep it short. Is Antonio Brown an alpha male? Because when it comes

to measuring alpha male nist, if you will, you're the guy. Look, I had a great discussion with Antonio Brown. I was absolutely delighted to collaborate without kick on this and he's now live. I think we've already made some headlines. It was leaked a few days ago that he did officially endorse President Trump, which was big news all across the world. We're in the Daily Mail in the UK. Fox News, of course, led with it. And I think there's going to be some more news that breaks.

now that this full interview is out there. So I was grateful for the opportunity to have the platform to interview him and have the support of Outkick and Fox News. I just want to say to you and David that the next time we get together, we are going to pound ice cold domestics. We will. We will. We're going to have an extra three for the brave men that were in David's family

that paid the ultimate price. because there is nothing more important than honoring and always remembering their service and their sacrifice. Thank you, boys, for embodying American exceptionalism, and I'll always be here for both of you. Appreciate it. All right, that's Nick Adams and David Huckstead. Coming up next, we're going to have Rachel Campost Duffy. We're going to elaborate more on what this country is moving forward, how to fight back, and what trajectory we're on.

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Kennedy saves the world. It is five days a week, every week. Download and listen at Fox Newspodcast.com or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. It is the Will Kane Show on Fox News, YouTube, Fox News, Facebook, and Fox News.com. Bobby Burak from Outkick, filling in for Will. That was a really, really smart conversation with Nick and David, two of my favorite people. I was really happy to have them on. We started the show about the message that while the vocal minority controls the message and the narrative, you control the result.

The working class has always dictated this country, but they have to fight back. They can't just go along to get along. and people are probably wondering at home well then why aren't they fighting back more if it's that easy you just stop buying products from target you stop buying bud light you stop going to see disney movies and it is that easy but there's a problem and i would argue it's the biggest problem we face as a culture right now and that is self censorship not censorship but self censorship when you have people deliberately silencing themselves they're afraid they're afraid to talk about the border because some balloon will call them xenophobic they're afraid to push back against DEI because they might be called a racist or trans ideology because some activist or glad is going to call them transphobic but when you self-censor you might think you're protecting yourself your family your kids because it won't cost you job, your kids standing within their community.

That's not true. When you self-censor, you eventually stop thinking for yourself. All throughout history, when a nation is afraid, it empowers those above them. The ruling class, the government, and cultural leaders, they have us right where they want us where we won't challenge them, we won't push back, we won't ask them questions because we're so afraid of these labels. so just know if you're one of the many people who is self-censoring and now your kid is it's not a good thing you're hurting yourself and you're bestowing power the people who hate you the most that is the people above you rachel camp post duffy is the co-host of from the kitchen table with her husband sean and a co-host of fox and friends the weekends she's one of the very few people who doesn't self-censor which is why i'm so glad to have her on rachel

I don't know how I wish I did sometimes I don't know how I love everything that you were saying Bobby I'm such a fan of yours and by the way I love everything you write as well I usually retweet it because you and I think alike especially on this subject of self-censorship I think first of all everyone should speak while we still can yeah there are forces out there that are trying to control what we see, what we hear, what we say. And we're still in control right now, barely hanging on to it. So if you ever wanted to say something, now's the time why you still can, why we can still possibly change this censorship industrial complex that we're facing right now. You know, we have intel and government and big, huge, powerful, you know, institutions

and oligarchs all trying to control what we think and what we say. And we're still a little bit in control, man, take advantage of that. And for me, I just really live by this idea that I can never regret anything if I just am telling the truth as best I can. I'll get it wrong sometimes, but as best as I can, I will not let a lie pass through me. And it hasn't made me very popular and it can sometimes cause me trouble, but I can never regret it, right? Because when you, when you censor yourself or you say something that you think makes other people happy, I think what ends up happening is you lose a little piece of your soul, you know, and also there's a lot of second guessing because when you're not telling the truth or the full truth, you know, there's a lot of different ways you can go with that story or that idea or that statement. When you're just telling it like you see it and you just let the chips fall where they will, that's, I just think it's the best way to live.

I do. And I want to stress how important this time is because some people say, whatever, it's a policy. But this is bigger than just politics. I always say policies last administrations, but culture's last generations. And it's very hard to undo culture. Andrew Breitbart always said it best. Politics is downstream from culture. So for the people who say, well, I don't want to get involved, but it's not just for you. It's for your kids, your grandkids, in the future.

Rachel, I have grave concerns about what's happening across this whole nation. I look at the transgender movement, which I started this show with, and people don't want to talk about it. That's probably topic number one when it comes to be self-censorship. And there's this idea on the right. It's like, well, we respect it, but we don't agree. I don't respect it. There's a poll that came out from Gallup last week that over 40% of people who are transgender have attempted suicide. 100% of the people who've gone through

gentle mutilation, which is the final stage of transitioning, they're enduring lifelong pain. Transgenderism is a precursor to destroying yourself. That to me is something that, whether you're on the right or left, you should be speaking up against. That is not something we can undo. I think it's so consequential and not enough people

are vocalizing their concerns over it. Well, I think the people who took the arrows very early on for standing up against this trans agenda are being vindicated. I mean, people like Abigail Schreier, for example, when her book came out, it's really hard to really put ourselves back in 2020, I think, was when she first started talking about this and her book was coming out. And she was saying, this crazy trend is a disaster. It's going to have long-term horrible consequences for kids.

And she was so vilified. And there were other people like her. I just had a conversation, interestingly, Bobby, with a friend of mine whose mom is a counselor, just recently retired within the last couple months. And now that she's retired, she really wants to talk about what she saw going through, which was a lot of young kids who were transitioned and now have a lot of regret. But boy, I mean, they have a lifetime of regret now. I mean, this isn't like I had bad fashion in 10th grade and I have to look back on these yearbook pictures. These are, they are generally mutilated, they know they may be sterilized, they know they may never be able to breastfeed because they had their breast cut off. She's just horrified at what she saw going through this and can't believe that we haven't had even more of a second thought on all of that, that we haven't outright banned these clinics that are making a lot of money off of this.

I want to go back, you know, you were talking about censorship in the context. of kids. And that's when I first started to see it. So I have kids who are 24 years old when my daughter and son, and they were in Catholic schools, were going through junior high and the early years of high school. That's when I first started to see that they were writing essays to get the grade. They were having to make decisions. Do I say the truth about what I think about, for example, say Christopher Columbus? Or do I say what my teachers, want me to say whatever the topic is so that I could get a good grade. And I remember this moral dilemma happening way back then or me first seeing it with my kids. And I guess, you know,

everything really does come down to the family. And I think it's, you know, that you could give your kids courage in those situations to always tell the truth. Even if it means a bad grade, telling the truth is better. And that, of course, you're modeling that in your life. I remember the other day i have two kids one is um she one is uh 11 and the other is um almost eight and they were talking about their kids at school who said that i was one of them was saying they my daughter said my friend says that you're famous and i said well i'm not i'm not really famous i'm just on tv i don't think i'm really famous and she goes oh no they say that you're famous and my son said well i don't know if mom's famous but a lot of people hate her and i was like

I was like, actually, that's true. A lot of people do hate me. And that's okay. And then my daughter said, that's because you tell the truth. And, you know, I don't know if she was like, you know, kissing my bat in that moment or not. But I do, I can say as a parent that I was proud of that moment.

Yeah, a lot of people will hate you when you tell the truth. But that doesn't mean it's not the right thing to do, especially in this moment that we're living in. That's exactly right. And what bothers me so much is that people can't. handle not being alike and it's so insignificant um at the end the day the people who actually matter it's a small group it's your family your friends maybe a boss if you feel like you can only work one place if not even a boss's opinion shouldn't matter all that much um great we like

you i get so much nasty emails and tweets and i don't see what it does i've never had a bad weekend because some loser online didn't like me or some media matters journalists or Daily Beast blogger didn't like what I said but you get these DMs and text messages from other people in the media saying we totally agree with what you're saying but we can never say that I just find that so cowardly yeah yeah it really is and look you know you and I maybe you know some people have different constitutions right like so there's that person at the school board meeting who can stand up and tell the school board off and stand up for common sense and stand up for their kids and everybody else's kids and but maybe you can't do that maybe

you're just that your personalities but you can clap or when other people attack that person that stood up and showed courage in that board meeting when they're being attacked online you can send a like you can you can support them even anonymously online i mean there's a place for all of us in this courage game but i'm always um i'm always drawn towards people who show courage. I think about this Harrison Butker, the kicker for the Kansas City Chiefs. You know, what he did wasn't just for the people in that room that were graduating. What he did was give lots of people who think just like him, probably half the country thinks just like him. But they're made to feel like they're bigots or they're going to lose their job or whatever if they say that.

And the more that we normal, the normies say what we think, the more permission we give to other people, the more courage we give to other people. And I know I personally, and I know you feel the same way, Bobby. I take the platform that I've been given at Fox very seriously. The best compliment I ever get is people who come up to me and say, thank you for saying what we're thinking. And I think there's so many people out there who are in a bad position. They do have to bring home the bacon.

And if they, you know, there's a lot of people that they're supporting in their job and they can't necessarily say what they think or they have a small business. And if they put up a Trump sign, you know, they're not gonna make it this year. You know, their business will collapse. And maybe they can't do that.

But they need other people to stand up and speak for them. But there's different ways that we can support those who have stood up and decided to take the arrows. You can buy Abigail Shrier's book on Amazon. You know, you can boycott Bud Light. You can boycott Target for selling, you know, tuck your genitalia bathing suits to children. You don't have to shop at Target. And you can do that quietly.

And there's lots of ways that we can support people who align with our values and quietly boycott those who are really doing a lot of damage to culture. Yeah, I love what you said about probably more half the country agreeing with Bucker. I don't know if you had a chance to hear my opening. But it is true. we are meant to believe that we're the nut jobs that we're in the minority and it's just not true. Harrison Bucker's jersey is now one of the top selling in the country. A lot more people agree with you and I, but there's not a lot of people willing to say it. And that creates this disoriented perception where everybody thinks the progressive way is the consensus and it's just not true at all.

I want to go a bit deeper. Can I just say something on that, Bobby, really quick? Because that's how I felt last week when I went down to the Bronx. I went down to the South Bronx ahead of the day before Donald Trump went to speak there. And I was expecting, because I had been to AOC's district, I was expecting, you know, that there were going to be people that were angry at, you know, the Democrats. Because those neighborhoods, the South Bronx, Queens, these neighborhoods are filled with crime. They're filthy.

They're dirty. And they're not doing well. And people are poorer than ever. And I was expecting to get some of that. But I was expecting also to get a lot of pushback. because these are deep blue areas. And that is not what I felt. I had almost 100% of the people tell me

they were excited that Donald Trump was coming. They wanted him to see what they were going through in that community and they were open to it. And yet from the media, you were hearing Donald Trump's not welcome there. If there are any supporters there, they must not be from the South Bronx lie. I talked to dozens of people,

dozens of people who all almost unanimously told me they were excited that he was coming and that they were gonna vote for him. So, you know, I think the narratives are blowing up all over the place. What I see is that the people who have been controlling us through information, the censorship of information, through canceling people and making people afraid of losing their livelihoods and COVID and all these different ways that they've been trying to control us, they seem very nervous to me. They seem like they know they're on the verge of losing control. And there's more of us than them. And if we acknowledge, that, as you said, at the beginning of your show, if we understand that we are actually the majority, and most people feel like us, maybe they're not as political, but they're definitely grounded in common sense. I think that the gig is up for that. So do I. One question that I think is going to be studied all throughout American history, probably be a while because no one wants

to acknowledge it now. How did Donald Trump get elected in 2016? I mean, this outsider, this real estate star businessman. I always say happy countries don't elect Donald Trump. Countries that are really fed up elect someone like Donald Trump. And now he's leading in all the polls. I voted for him twice. I'm going to vote for him again. I think now he's even more important to this country.

But what led to his political rise in 2015 when he started to gain momentum? I think there's a lot of factors. One is, I think you're right. I think he's an outsider. He was a businessman. He has that kind of. a very practical businessman way of approaching every issue he doesn't look at it through an ideological a prism he looks at it through what works because that's what you have to do when you have a business

and i think it was really refreshing for people to look i mean i i changed my own points if you want a lot of stuff you know i was always a little uncomfortable with the with the with the iraq war so was i and felt like i had been lied to but i was one of those people that was defending george bush and i felt like, you know, to be a good Republican, I had to. But then I was mad that they were lying to us. And I was realizing my Democrat family members were right about the Iraq war. The Dixie Chicks were right about the Iraq war. And I love that Donald Trump came in.

And he's like, yeah, I'm running for president. But that war was stupid. And George Bush screwed shit up. And I'm glad that Donald Trump said that because it gave me the courage and permission to say what I knew was somehow in my heart. By the way, I've gone all the other way. I'm like the Cindy Sheehan of Fox News. I'm all for peace. I don't want us in any more foreign entanglements.

I'm done with all that. But that was one way, but also on tax issues. Like I was a, you know, I majored in economics and I believe in free trade. I still do. But what we were trapped in was not free trade. We were doing free trade and the Chinese weren't. And so that was not fair. And Donald Trump said, well, we're not going to do that.

And I was really, and that changed my perspective on things as well. And I think when Donald Trump turned us towards the working class and said, this is who this is who we are. I'm like, well, yeah, I come from the working class. I want this, I want this change in the party. So I think that all of those sort of like busting up the, the way things had been sort of this bull in a China shop ideologically and policies wise speaking, what was incredible for me. It was actually very transforming for me in the way I think about the world. And I credit him a lot with that. But the other part was the authenticity. You know, I think once he came on, a lot of RNC and DNC consultants lost their job because their stupid talking

points stopped working. Donald Trump just says things like they are. He doesn't use all this weird Washington speak to say it. And I think, you know, for me, I know that a lot of things he says makes people uncomfortable. I love it. I just love the way he has made politics fun, said it like it is, let people lose their minds because it's not politically correct. And I think people were just ready for authenticity. And I experienced that, Bobby, when I went to the South France. The speech he gave there could have been given in 2016. It's the same message about immigration. And he didn't change it because the audience was black and brown and diverse. He gave the same message. And guess what? They're on board now, too, because they're seeing the consequences of a truly open border and how

it ends up in working class neighborhoods, lowering wages, raising crime, and just making life unbearable and straining the social services. So on immigration, on the economy, you name the issue. He was the same in 2024 in the South Bronx with that crowd as he was in 2016 coming down that elevator. That kind of authenticity, you can't, it just is. And everybody who's come up after him who has that polished, you know, politicians speak and mannerisms, they just, it doesn't work.

Yeah. And for me, what he changed my perspective on is I thought as much as he exposed Democrats, he also exposed the neocons. And he was one of the reasons, I mean, eight years ago, maybe some of what Nikki Haley said I would have agreed with. But when I saw her up on the debate stage, I just cringed. I thought she was such an awful candidate. And so many of the GOP right now I feel that way about Lindsay Graham is one of them. So to me, that's where he changed my perspective, exposing the Republican Party as well. Yeah, I couldn't agree more.

And there are a lot of forces. I mean, let's be honest, Tucker Carlson, had a lot to do with sort of opening that box up again and exposing, like, there is this military industrial accomplice, this neocon way of thinking that benefits the few and wreaks havoc for the rest. of us. You know, I also cringed when I saw her on that stage. I didn't know if it was that so much just that she was a neocon, or maybe she was putting on even more like tough girl, like girl boss stuff on war. I found it for me very off-putting the way she she talks about war so cavalierly. And again, that's that class divide as well. Who fights the wars? The people in the South Bronx fight the wars. The working class kid from Virginia and Arkansas and Alabama, they fight the wars while the elites, you know, make money off the wars in the suburbs of Washington, D.C.

And I think that whole thing has been exposed. And I think that it's been so cleansing and maybe not cleansing, but at least clarifying within the Republican Party. That is the divide in the conservative movement. Those who are, you know, establishment types who believe in these. foreign wars and this and and and and aren't embarrassed to say that it's also a money-making enterprise for a certain class of people versus the versus those who aren't and who just want to focus on making America great again getting our subways back I mean I love when Donald Trump said you know the tiles are filing off in the subway he cared about how the working class get to work believe me he's not in the subway he's in a he's in a fancy black car but he he cares he's an elite who's not an elitist and um often i see on the stage you know

you know lindsay graham these people um i think they're elitist at heart and they're and they're people who who are speaking for a certain class of people who have been making a lot of money with the way things um have been yeah and back to that message about however being deceived we're led to believe the greatest divide in this country is left first right black versus white it's actually we're divided by class and that defines all of this Yes. Another voice who's been really powerful in making that and not even a conservative herself, a Democrat, is Bataia Ungar Sargan. She has been amazing. Her book is incredible. Made me realize there's this place where the left and the right overlap. And Donald Trump was the first to sort of walk into that space. But there are others like her, like Tucker, other thinkers who are presenting this idea. of let's look at what makes family strong. Let's stop looking.

And for me, it was huge because, again, I came from an economics background where I sort of had this free market, Milton Friedman, you know, capitalism, way of looking at things. And all of that sort of broke down. And now I really like to look at things so much less ideologically. I look at, is the policy something that will make our family stronger? Because I believe families are the bedrock of this culture. And so take an issue like pornography, I am not at all with the libertarians and the, you know, the free speech people on this, right? Like, I love free speech, but when it comes to pornography, which I believe is deeply in a spiritual and deep psychological way hurting our country, I'm with France.

I want everyone who wants to view pornography to register with the government. And that way we can control it and make sure that kids aren't seeing it. So I'm done with all the ideological prisms. I'm looking at everything through what will make families stronger, whether it's an economic issue, a policy issue or moral issue like that, our school issues. What will make our country and our family stronger because then we'll be on the right path? Yeah, I love that message. Stop being loyal to parties and ideologies. Be loyal to what's best for you.

Or the best idea. Yeah, best idea. absolutely. I want to transition to another topic that people self-censor a lot on. That is DEI and whatever you want to call it. I call it excused racism. That's basically what it is. It's basically allowing companies and other institutions to discriminate against white people. We have this hierarchy of victimhood when it comes to race where black people sit atop and straight white guys like me are buried beneath the pyramid. However, there's also the Hispanic community. of which year apart.

They get no attention. They get no love. There's a lot of research that says these big corporate boards don't include any Hispanics. Why is that community just completely left out, given that this is about 22% of them in America, 10% more than African Americans? Yeah, and growing. And by the way, you know, African Americans have such a huge abortion rate among them. They're not, you know, in the city of New York, more, there are more black. babies aborted than born. I know it's an incredible thing. And Hispanics, I have nine kids.

Hispanics are still procreating at very respectably Catholic rates. And so, and then we now have an open border where a lot of them are coming through. So we're growing by leaps and bounds. But I think Hispanic Americans have always loved the idea of the American dream. And those who left Latin America, a lot of them were fleeing communism. They were fleeing socialism. They were fleeing socialism. these dysfunctional governments and they came here and truly wanted to be American and be part of the American dream. And so maybe they're being left out because of these, you know, these DEI programs maybe want people, you know, maybe want to preference black. I mean, we obviously as a country have a lot more a story about black America that we're, that, you know, it's not our best

chapter, right? And so maybe there's a desire to to resolve our DEI issues using. Black Americans, but I also think a lot of Hispanics don't really come here for that reason. They're not looking for, you know, to be included through a DEI program. They want to be included through their hard work. The culture of Hispanics is one of God, family, and work. The fastest growing, the people, if you take each demographic, you know, divide us. I don't like that idea, but let's divide us all by races and cultures. Hispanics are more entrepreneurial than any other demographic.

They start businesses at three times the rate of any other, you know, racial demographic, including white Americans. So they're highly entrepreneurial. They come from countries where there wasn't a lot of government help. So they just want to work hard and do their thing and invest in their families. And right now, the demographic that's most dissatisfied with Joe Biden are Hispanics. And there's a lot of reasons why. One is, if you had a small business and Hispanics have a lot of small business, whether it's a food truck or a restaurant or whatever, Hispanics were hurt very, very disproportionately during COVID.

Big corporations benefited, and there was a huge transfer of wealth from small entrepreneurial businesses to big box corporations. So that's one issue for sure. The other is you brought up class. I'm so glad that you talk about that. Bobby, it's really important. There's a lot of working class Mexican Americans, Hispanic Americans, who were masked, serving food to white people and rich people who were not masked. And there was a real class divide. I remember going to places and going, why are the so-called servers, you know, wearing masks? And none of us have to. You know, I thought it was such bullshit. And I believe

me, if you were Hispanic, you know, working. in that restaurant where Nancy Pelosi or Gavin Newsom didn't have to wear a mask, but you did. You internalized that. You got that there were two tiers, two tier system here, that we were turning into what Latin America, what they left, by the way. I lived in Latin America. It's one of the most classest places you've ever been. One of the reasons they love America, Hispanics, when they come here, is because those things didn't exist. But guess what? COVID brought some of that out. And I think I think you're seeing Hispanics, they don't want handouts. They just want opportunity. They want a school system where their kids can get educated and not be indoctrinated, whether it's with

DEI or, God forbid, all this gender ideology. And they want the freedom to practice their religion, you know, the stuff that was happening to Catholics, the way the Catholics are being targeted by the FBI. They don't like that. And they're very pro-life people because they're a very Christian people. And so there's a lot of reasons for Hispanics to look to the Republican Party, to look to somebody like Donald Trump, who espouses that. And I'll tell you, here's the danger for the Democrats, Bobby. My dad cast his first vote. He comes from a union Democrat family. He was the first one in his family to cast a vote for a Republican. And that was when Ronald Reagan was running back in 1980. He cast that vote. Since then, several of his brothers have become

become Republicans. He's one of 15, so there's still a lot of Democrats in there. But every one of his children and all of his, you know, grandchildren, all are, you know, Republican voting, Republican, you know, conservative side. So what you're going to see in this election, and you're seeing Donald Trump being very competitive with Hispanics, more competitive than he has been

with any other Democrat demographic, if they vote for Donald Trump, they will forever become, and they're already very persuadable, because 55% of Hispanics have voted for a Republican at one point or another. But I think you're going to see numbers you have never seen before. I think Donald Trump's votes with Hispanics are going to be much greater than George Bush's, which was the last high mark.

And you are going to see a whole new generation of either Republican or in the very least swing, solidly swing voting Hispanics. And that will forever change the electorate for elections to come. And I don't think that Democrats understand what's coming. This is going to be a massive wave. So, so well said. One of the best answers I've heard on any podcast. I love the knowledge and in-depth nature you took on that topic and how it relates to this upcoming election.

So Rachel, I'll get you out of here on this. I recently decided about a year ago, you're my favorite Fox and Friends weekend host. really oh boy you're you're trying to get a fight here oh i love it though i mean for a while you and p. were going back and forth as my favorite and then but you pulled ahead thank you by the way i want to let you know when i talk to will my favorite outkick person oh good that's great and that's all right clay he can be number two but you know i told will i was going to have you on he's like well i've been trying to get her on this show for a week she doesn't answer and I said, well, let me text her. I think I can get her on. And I got a quick response. So I don't

know, Will, Rachel's not that hard to book. Rachel. Oh, I love it. I love it. Great stuff. By the way, you've been doing a great job. I have been listening to the show. It's fantastic. Thank you so much. I really appreciate you coming on. You're the best. You can catch Rachel on Fox and Friends weekends. Also, I want to give a shout out to her daughter of Vita. She's been filling in for Dan Bongino does a really good job. All right. Coming up next, Mount Rushmore of movies. You're listening to The Will Cain Show. Following Fox's initial donation to the Kerr County Flood Relief Fund,

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So there was a report last week that AMC put a trigger warning on the movie Goodfellas. Apparently now offending the mob is offensive and not appropriate and needs to be warned because if you upset the mob, I don't know, apparently we can't do that. But it got me thinking, is Goodfellas a Mount Rushmore of movies. And the answer is yes. It's also not all that debatable. So I thought it'd be fun to end the show with our Mount Rushmore of movies. We bring on the crew, Patrick Hatton, James, and Dan, Will's producers, who do a great job. All right, guys, so I'm going to give you mine. My Mount Rushmore of Movies. Okay. Godfather, Godfather Part two. That's two separate

ones. Good fellas in the dark night. that's good I like that having two in the same trilogy is interesting in the Mount Rushmore which is good what do you think Patrick

it's a little heavy on the mob action you know I'm going to throw out a movie with a guy who's in the news as well Richard Dreyfus and say

jaws I'd have jaws up there and then I'd have one of the Lord of the Ring movies and if I had to choose it would be Fellowship of the Ring because that was the best one in my book. All right.

My third would be Pulp Fiction. Ooh, that's a good one. And round out with the first Star Wars. I guess it ended up being called a New Hope, but it's the one, it's like a dark night where people, they teach it in film class. It's a perfect film for as far as balance goes and everything like that. James? Yeah, I think all of us here are going to choose one Star Wars movie to put on. So my Star Wars movie would actually be

I'll take the Gen Z mantle and go with Revenge of the Sith One of the great old-time movies That's interesting That's so young of you It's aged like a fine wine I'll have the Godfather part one on there I'll actually go with another mob movie Maybe a little unexpected but a Bronx tale I think

It's a good one Has really gotten on there I think he got to have some Mid-2000s End of Monoculture Will-Farrell type movie in there I'm going to go with Stepbrothers, so it's my fourth. Ooh, interesting. All right, Dan, you cheated.

You criticized all of our list, but didn't give yours. That's true. I'll go now. Okay, let's hear. So my number one is a Star Wars movie, but it's Empire Strikes Back. I think it did very well for a sequel. Yeah. A second movie, which was great.

I'm also going Lord of the Rings. I'm a little sci-fi nerdy. But I'm going Return of the King is my favorite. And then throwing the Godfather, like everybody else, Godfather Part 1 is my favorite. And then I'm going little off the book, the Matrix. I'm throwing in there. I think it's important culturally, and I think

it's a great movie, and I love it. All right, well, that's it for me today. Oh, sorry, Patrick. Oh, no, I was definitely considering The Matrix. Yeah, I like that one, too. But yeah, that's that for me today. I appreciate Will inviting me on to fill in this week. I believe we have Tyrus

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