Will Cain Country - What Did Secret Service Know & When Did They Know It?

Episode Date: July 18, 2024

Story #1: Three hours under suspicion, half an hour as a person of interest, and over 7 minutes as a suspected assassin. How was the Secret Service not able to stop an attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump? Story #2: According to reports, President Joe Biden could step aside as soon as this weekend. PLUS, former President Trump's first speech since the attempted assassination. A conversation on that and more with former Sunday Night Football Reporter and Host of the Michele Tafoya Podcast, Michele Tafoya. Story #3: Would you rather rise to stardom early or be a late bloomer? A conversation with the crew. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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news.com and on the Fox News YouTube channel, the Fox News Facebook page, terrestrial radio stations, market to market, and coast to coast. Always on demand at Apple or on Spotify or by subscribing at the text link underneath this live stream right there on YouTube. Just drop down, find the button, and hit subscribe to the Will Kane show. We've got a big show for you today, including we're going to be joined by Michelle Tofoya to break down, not only, the end for Joe Biden, but what should it be? What is it like on the stage for the RNC? Should it be a reaffirmation of values or should it be an invitation into a big tent for the Republican Party? We're only getting all that in just a little bit. Let us break down, though. TikTok. What do we know? Point by point, bulletin by bulletin. What do we now know about the attempted assassination of Donald Trump? Story number one. Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheadle attended the Republican National Convention yesterday in a remarkable incident.

She was confronted not by one, not two, not three, but four United States Senators. She was surrounded, she was pestered, she was questioned, and she was chased. Watch this interaction between United States Senators and the director of the Secret Service. to go on stage when you know you've got a sniper, sit or threat, I don't think that they

are you hung up on it. We're here. We're here. You can't have to meet the meeting church. This hospitality is actually to thank the partners to help to secure the Republic of National invention and I would not want to take

the way from here. We can find a place to go right now. Yes. We're able to know. That's a luxury suite at the Republican National Convention. Cheedle says to the centers, I don't think this is an appropriate place to have this discussion. The senators say, we'll find a place. We'll go right now.

Why were they so interested in answers? Because they haven't been able to get answers from anyone, not the FBI, not the DOJ, not the Secret Service. There was reportedly a one-hour teleconference where no Republican elected official was called upon to ask a question. question of those that allowed an attempted assassination of Donald Trump. That was Senator John Barroso of Wyoming, Senator Marshall Blackburn of Tennessee, Senator James Langford of Oklahoma, and Senator Ken Kramer of North Dakota. They chased Cheathel down the hallway at the RNC, continuing to fire questions as she walked off into the crowd. The question you can hear asked by Blackburn is how did you allow Donald Trump to take the stage?

Let's review for a moment what we've learned over the last couple of days about the timeline leading to the attempted assassination of Donald Trump. At 3 o'clock on July 13th, Saturday afternoon, the assassin would-be assassin put himself on the radar of the Secret Service. He came under suspicion because he came through a security checkpoint with a range finder that was set off by metal detectors. Initial reports seem to suggest this is some type of spotting devices. any hunter is well aware. It's almost like an external scope that you can use without pulling out the entirety of your rifle. But subsequent reports suggest it was actually a golf range finder. You can use that on the golfing range. And while it might have alerted officials, I'm not sure at that point would have risen to the level of arrest or suspect. But it did put him

under the watch of the Secret Service, who reportedly kept him on their radar for the next several hours. There's videos out there you can see of him walking around outside the glass warehouse. This went on for quite some time because the attempted assassination wasn't until roughly 6.11 p.m. By 5.45 p.m., counter snipers spotted crooks on the roof. They begin to radio it in. What happens at that point in where communication goes is an open question. At this point, At 545, he becomes more than a person of interest. But he's not yet risen to the level of suspect, which reports are that happens. At about 604, that's seven minutes before the shots rang out that killed one Trump rallygoer,

critically injured two others, and hit the ear of Donald Trump. Seven minutes with a rifle in sight, seven minutes known to be a would-be assassin. You heard me mention there, took the ear off of Donald Trump. I guess there was some level of presumption, assumption in my description of what happened to Donald Trump. But as we talked about yesterday here on the Will Cain Show, there continues to be a little bit of a drumbeat. I would like to say on the far left, but I would say on the corporately supported left, that there's some type of staged conspiracy to benefit Donald Trump. What am I talking about?

I'm talking about MSNBC host analyst Joy Reid, who has joined the chorus of Michael Steele and others in saying, why don't we know? Three, four days after an attempt on his life, why don't we know the extent of his injuries? Why don't we know if it's a bullet? Why don't we know if it's a shard of glass? Here's a little taste. I want you to hear this. I'll play it on my phone and show it to you through our live stream on Facebook or YouTube. of what Joy Reid has posted on social media.

I still don't know for sure whether Donald Trump was hit by a bullet, whether he was hit by glass fragments, whether he was hit by shrapnel. We don't have those details. We actually have no details from his physician, even though this man is still a secret service protected, you know, and presidential candidate. We knew almost nothing. Why? Why don't we know that much? We know that three people were shot. One person unfortunately was killed at the rally. We don't know where they were sitting or standing relative to him. We don't know why for nine full seconds. Donald Trump was allowed to stand back up during an active shooting, an active shooter situation, even though they at that point had said the shooter, the shooter, the shooter, the, shooter was down how would they have known how would they have known if there were more shooters or not nobody knew that there could have been five shooters for all they knew yet they allowed him to stand up in the middle of that you know crisis and pose for a photo that is pure insanity yesterday we

talked about i understand natural human curiosity but why is this of newsworthiness why is this a value. Let's walk through that again for just one second. There's like this some moral equivalency taking place between the demand to know about the mental capacity of a sitting president of the United States and the superficial flesh wound to a man running for president. There is no comparative newsworthiness. The American people have a right to know whether or not the sitting president's brain has turned to mush, whether or not he can complete sentences or whether or not he can complete thoughts, whether or not he has the capacity to lead the free world. Well, not he can be trusted with his finger over the nuclear option. Donald Trump's

ear has nothing to do with his ability to run, much less run for president, much less manage the office of the presidency. But this fevered demand for answers, no, that comes from somewhere else. And that's only of newsworthiness and only requires a demand for answers if you think it's all fake, that they somehow killed a man and killed in critically injured to others. in pursuit of, I don't know, electoral benefit on a race that you were already winning where your opponent was self- imploding? Electoral benefit implied by this irresponsible, insane, corporately paid personality to pose for a photo. Why was it he was allowed for nine seconds to, quote, pose for a photo?

The reason I focus in on this, because you could easily say, is this person important? They're insane, and we know that, and they have no ratings. What I would say is they create a conversation that echoes. While it's true, you know, barely six digits, barely more than watch the Will Cain Show on all platforms, by the way. We're growing. We're doing between 40 and 100,000 on YouTube. We're doing another 30 to 60,000 on Facebook. You know, combine that with our podcast, or well over 100,000 on average per episode, which puts us in the range of MSNBC. But why does it matter, then, what she has to say.

Well, it matters, I think, on two fronts, because if it's said on MSNBC, it's given license to say on social media. And although it's initially maybe a tree dropping in a forest, it has an avalanche effect of other trees falling along to the edge of the planes. And then this becomes something acceptable. And it is acceptable, apparently, secondarily is the important point here, to a Fortune 500 company in Comcast that pays for this divisive insanity. Back to your timeline and what we know.

Donald Trump suffers that wound, the wound of so much curiosity at 6.11 when shots ring out. Within moments, the would-be assassin is killed. Apparently, the FBI has conducted hundreds of interviews, hundreds of his friends, his associates, his high school classmates, and they have yet been able to identify a motive. They've also combed through a social media, which there's very little, shockingly.

Apparently, this assassin is the only 20-year-old in America who's not, I don't know, on TikTok, but did post something on a video game platform, Steam, where he said July 13th will be my premiere. Watch as it unfolds. What do we know at this point about Thomas Matthew Crooks? He worked at the Bethel Park skilled nursing and rehabilitation center. He passed a background check.

As people have pointed out, he at one point registered as a Republican, but donated $15 to a Democratic-led organization, project, turnout project, an act blue group in 2021. He was found with a remote receptor or a detonator. A suspicious device was then found in his car, analyzed by it's being analyzed by the FBI, but it appears to be. explosives, either to create a distraction for his escape or his attempted assassination. He graduated high school in 2022. He got a National Math and Science Initiative Star Award. Classmates say he was smart, but he was bullied. He was a member of the Claritin Sportsman Club, which is a shooting club. And law enforcement, as we know now, had their eyes on him for hours ahead of time. And yet to the question asked by Senator Marshall Blackburn, how is it

you let former President Donald Trump take the stage? How is it you let all of this unfold on July 13th? How is it that you let an attempt at assassination of Donald Trump? That attempt was not the end.

In fact, it was perhaps the beginning for a second term for Donald Trump, but it looks like it could be the end in a matter of days for Joe Biden. It is all lining up against him and he could elect. to not move forward as early as this weekend.

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I am good. I am asking a lot of the same questions that everyone else in America is asking. I am shaking my head in disgust over people who are claiming this is staged for a quote unquote posing for a photograph. My gosh. This is how far we've fallen in the discourse. And you're right. whatever Joy Reid says, even if a tiny audience hears it on MSNBC, it gets amplified on every social media outlet that there is by people who support her and by people who do not like her. They're both going to amplify it.

And there is a really, really concerning. And it's not in, I haven't encountered it in my social circle. You may have in yours. I know some of my producers have in their Brooklyn brunches. but there is a concerning cancerous idea out there that this entire thing was staged. It's not simply the rantings of a crazy person on MSNBC. It is taking hold to some extent within the minds of Americans. And while we're talking about Joy Reid, Michelle, I want to share with you this as well.

So Joe Biden has been diagnosed with COVID. So this is what the analysis was about that on MSNBC. Watch, Michelle. His survival of that and bouncing right back and going right to him. his convention is being conveyed in the media world as a sign of strength. This current president of the United States is 81 years old and has COVID. Should he be fine in a couple of days? Doesn't that convey exactly the same thing? That he's strong enough older than Trump to have gotten something that used to really be fatal to people his age. So if he does fine out of it and comes

back and is able to do rallies, isn't that exactly the same? It should. I mean, it's not a exactly the same. It's a not same incident, but it's all, it's an elderly man coming through out of an illness. An elderly man. Joe Biden surviving COVID is like Donald Trump surviving an assassination. It's, you know, there are so many words I could use insane, crazy lunacy. And I've said them far too many times. I know we both have. But this is how far they're willing to stretch. And by the way, I'm with you. I think that the ultimate dominoes began falling yesterday with Adam Schiff and others being given permission because you know and I know

they both, they all needed permission from whether it's Pelosi or Obama or whoever's pulling the strings to come out and say, you know, Joe, you need to step down. Then he gets COVID and maybe he really does have COVID. Maybe it's staged, Will, I don't know. But I want to see

the positive test. I want to see it, damn it. But whatever it is, it's not like being shot at at an outdoor rally the disgusting part of this notion of it being staged is that a man lost his life two girls lost their

dad a woman lost her husband people lost their son their friend to suggest something that heinous was staged is disgusting and I just don't even have words for it

you know but we're in a conspiracy theory age right well it's interesting i think it's um it's really smart it's a it's a wonderful parallel and dichotomy for you to point out that well where's the positive test then on or the demand for the positive test on joe biden's covid diagnosis collateral on youtube says we also know nothing about biden's health why doesn't she ask about that i mean it's a great point we're supposed to just take at face value that an 81 year old man has covid when there's a push to get him out of the presidency while we demand answers with four days of Donald Trump's medical records after an attempted assassination.

But moving beyond that, Michelle, to your point of, like, it seems to be happening. So first, Joe Biden gave this interview before it was revealed that he has been diagnosed with COVID. He gave this interview to BET about, is there any scenario where you'll step out, step out of the race watch? There's a medical condition that emerged. If somebody, if doctors came in me and said, you got this problem, that problem. But I made a serious mistake in the whole debate. And look, when I originally ran, you may remember it. I said I was going to be a transitional candidate.

And I thought that I'd be able to move from this to pass it on to someone else. But I didn't anticipate things getting so, so, so divided. And quite frankly, I think the only thing age brings a little bit of wisdom, And I think I've demonstrated that I know how to get things done for the country, in spite of the fact that we couldn't get it done. But there's more to do, and I'm reluctant to walk away from that. These interviews, Michelle, I just don't think they're inspiring confidence. Go ahead, Michelle, yeah. Well, my first reaction is he didn't anticipate us being so, so, so divided.

Wasn't his platform based on I'm going to unify the country? So if you couldn't do that in your three and a half? years, close to four years as president of the United States, which was what you ran on was unifying us. And now we're so, so, so, so divided. Isn't that an example of an abject failure by this White House to unify us, which was his goal? He hasn't been able to do that. I would posit that he's divided us even more because he continues to call the other side extreme mega Republicans, cultists, evil, characterizing all of us as supporting a side that is

that is treacherous and monstrous and evil. And so, you know, if that's your legacy and you're leaving at a time when we are so, so, so, so divided, you should step down. You couldn't accomplish unity. Let someone else do it. Very good point. I saw Jake Tapper on CNN say that apparently if you do a word count

on the word unity in presidential inaugural addresses, Joe Biden set the record for using that word more than any other, and then spent four years dividing us and laments the fact that we are divided today. But what you said earlier, Michelle, about it's happening. It's happening. There are reports, our buddies over at Ruthless Podcast, did this yesterday. I want to give them full credit. They were the first, I believe, to report.

Chuck Schumer made a trip to visit Joe Biden, where he pled his case, said, you need to step aside. And the reason the argument, apparently Nancy Pelosi has made the same case, and so now has House Majority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, is you're going to create down-ballot bloodbath here. It's going to be a landslide, and we're going to lose the Senate. Oh, my God. They're saying there's going to be a bloodbath. I know. Well, that was my characterization, so now I'm a domestic terrorist.

But a down-ballot landslide, they're going to lose the House, they're going to lose the Senate, they're going to lose the presidency, and they have all impressed. upon Joe Biden, you got to go. And everyone has said to your point earlier, that's permission. When those big dogs say you got to go, that's permission for the atom shifts of the world to start barking. And apparently Joe Biden has said his tune has changed to the point of Kamala can't win to can Kamala win? So it's just like the tone, the atmosphere, the momentum is totally changed against Joe Biden. So in these podcasts, we use what's called ring light that you can turn up or down the volume. The volume is being turned up. The brightness

is coming on, or you could say the darkness is setting in for the Joe Biden. They're slowly turning the knob on the light amplification on Joe Biden. And we've heard all week that Nancy Pelosi was working the phones, which meant she was asking people, are you on board? What do you think? Can you get reelected? Who can get reelected? Who's going to get hurt? This is all about politics. They don't care about Joe Biden as much as they want to say that they do. And maybe there's a thread of care for the man. But they are, he is either useful to them or he's not. And it's right now it's been proven he is not, he is no longer useful to them.

I don't think Kamala is going to be more useful, quite frankly. I think that she's going to get hammered if she is the nominee. But they can't skip over her will. I mean, they're, they're in a really tough corner and they've put themselves there. So if you're listening to us on Terrestrial Radio or you're listening on Spotify or Apple, I'm going to describe this for you. But Michelle, I'm going to put this up for you and everyone watching on Facebook and YouTube. This is a video of Joe Biden getting into his motorcade yesterday. I don't know if you saw this.

He's in the background. So the video was shot through the SUV. He's getting in the far door, but you can still see his silhouette. And it's really sad, Michelle. Like anyone who has ever helped a grandparent in their last years into. a car would recognize this scene. It's, I think it's a secret service agent helping him from the outside. You know, he can't get in.

He's inch by inch, re-adjusting himself to sitting up straight. And then it looks like an agent comes in and adjust his feet to get out of the door jam. It's just, A, it's over. B, it's a scandalous cover-up that the sitting president of the United States is in this kind of shape and it was hidden from the American public. It is, it's right there. It's the emperor has no clothes. Right. And it has been for some time. And we know that. It's just that the debate really put it into sharp relief for us. I lost my 92-year-old mom last October. But even before then, she was lucid enough to say, Joe Biden needs to get out. She's in there at 92 and she needed all that help getting in and out of cars. Believe me. And but she was, she recognized the fact that this man was not capable because of it's not the number.

right? Because we saw a World War II vet, a 98-year-old World War II vet on stage last night, who was fabulously articulate. He struggled with a couple words that 98-year-olds do, but he was wonderful. So it's not the number. It is how it is presenting itself. And we all believe that there's something more, this isn't just old age. It's either dementia. There's something going on that is making it very hard for him to maintain any kind of strength at all. And it's not just that we see it, Will, and we've talked about this. Xi Jinping sees it. Putin sees it. Iran sees it. Every one of our enemies sees it. And I think that that is so damaging for the United States of America. One more question on Biden, Harris. You brought up, I don't know how they go past to Kamala Harris. Here's what's interesting. Here's a twist to ask you, though, Michelle. Do you want it if you are Kamala Harris?

I have heard various commentators. On Fox and Friends Weekend, I had Teglin Fagaro, who is an independent, but I think worked for Bernie Sanders, say, don't lay this on her desk. Don't put this at her feet, meaning don't put her in an unenviable situation, a losing situation. Like, she's the relief pitcher coming in with the bases loaded and the number four batter at the plate, right? She is going to be in a tough position. So do you go, I don't want it? I'm going to preserve my reputation and pass on until 2028.

Or is it like we saw with Ron DeSantis? Or people say about Chris Christie at the time when he didn't seize his opportunity in 2012, when it's there, you have to take it. You can't play long games. You can't calculate it out for a decade. When your opportunity is there, you have to take it, Kamala Harris. I think she has to, and I think along with that discussion, and I hear you, it's not a pretty situation to be stepping into.

But there are other people they are talking about for 2028, and her name is not among them. You know, they're talking about other governors. They're looking ahead. I think, you know, as much as some Democrats want to deny it, many of them are saying, okay, you know what? We might get slammed in this election. What do we do next? And they are playing the long game. And I don't think she's part of the long game. So I think she has to take this opportunity. And I think also she lets down a lot of constituents if she says, uh, no. So I, I don't see another way for them. And unfortunately, this may be the end of her political career as well. All right. This was something historic from the stage of the RNC last night, Michelle Tafoya. And it was the nomination and acceptance speech

by Senator J.D. Vance of Ohio as Donald Trump's vice president. The historic nature of this is the following. If there has not been a bearded vice president or president since Herbert Hoover, Charles Curtis, vice president under Herbert Hoover. So we're talking what? Late 1920s that we had somebody with the beard at the Hyde Office. And if you're going to go to president, by the way, it's back to 1892, Benjamin Harrison. You know, if you said it was the 1920s, well, here we are in the 2020s. Every hundred years, something repeats itself, like a plague. Or like, like a crash or something. So we've got the beer of repeating itself. I like the look. I'm fine with it. You know, I'll be honest with you. If I could sit with J.D. Vance and go through that speech with him,

I'd have a couple pointers on presentation. I would. You know, and he's new at, I mean, that's, that's a staggering position because you're sitting there. You know millions of people are watching on television. You're introducing yourself now as the potential vice president of the United States. and you're also very cognizant of the crowd in front of you and all their chanting. He let some of their chanting go on a little too long. He should have taken a little more command in those moments, in my humble opinion, and just gone on with his speech. But overall, I think he came across as very likable. And I know Variety Magazine, the Hollywood rag,

was saying that the film that Ron Howard made of Hillbilly Elogy created a monster. They didn't say that back in 2020 when he wasn't running. But they said it this week. And also the governor of my fine state, Tim Walls of Minnesota Democrat, also said he is a Frankenstein monster created by the Heritage Foundation. Yeah, he really looked like a monster last night, didn't he? They are going to go after his stamp on life. He better be prepared for all of this. But I think he came across at least as very likable and really kind of genuine and authentic. Oh, you're right. Glenn Close, Ron Howard, canceled for participating in Hillbilly Elegy. I got a story for you, Michelle. During the height of the politicization of sports and ESPN, they were like, what do we do? What do we do? We've got to do something. The audience is mad. We have clearly empowered some voices that are putting us in a predicament. There's really nothing in. internal that wasn't obvious externally. And they were, perhaps the only revelation to this is they were trying to figure out how to grapple with it, how to deal with it. So they hired a consultant. That consultant, at least in part, I'm not saying he was like the man, but he did come in and do

something was Frank Luntz. Now, Frank Luntz came in and one of the things was, you ought to, you ought to highlight this Will Cain guy more. You know, he's sane, he's in touch with the audience. I don't know if they'd listened to his words because I was already had my own radio show. but I met Frank for a moment, short meeting, and Frank said to me, Michelle, what's with the beard? And I said, I don't know, you know, I had a beard at that time when I was on ESPN. I said, I don't know. I like it.

I just like it. And he goes, it reads untrustworthy. And I'm like, really? And, you know, I don't doubt. I doubt a lot of things about Frank Cluntz, but I don't doubt that that was probably based on some type of focus grouping or research that, you know, there are things, you know, right hair part, left hair part, all that seems to have a subconscious effect on people. But apparently, he told me, a beard is not as trustworthy to people as clean-shaven.

Now, I should say that research was only so valuable in that afterwards, I did notice Frank Luntz wears a beard. So I don't know how compelling that is. Right. My gosh. But it is interesting. I mean, I don't know if it's true or not, but I do think mustache, beard, hair part, height, these things do impact sort of how you read to an audience.

But, you know, the way I see it, he kind of looks like his generation to me with that beard. There are a lot of guys sporting beards these days. And so I don't know, you've got the clean-shaven Trump family next to this guy who reads authentically, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, all the states he was pounding last night. So I don't see it that way, but I wasn't in the first. focus group, so what do I know? And now I'm just concerned about the part of my hair being on the right side. The correct side. I forget what it is, but left side versus right side part. And I believe there's only, I don't think, yeah, and by the way, one of one of the producers can look this up and do a quick fact check on us later in the episode. I don't think we've had a president,

I think all the presidents have had their hair parted on the same side, I believe, or there's very few exceptions. I can't remember. It's the side of have it on now, because I did switch it at one point. That's the same side as I have at all, so I'm hoping we're okay. Yeah, so what is this? I'm parting it from left to right. I used to part the other way, and I had a barber say, you need to switch it. And I tell you something, it changed everything. I mean, it was a huge moment for me.

You know, okay, let's talk about Donald Trump tonight. You brought him up in his family. And I've said this to my wife twice in the past three days. I've said, you know, for all the critics or skeptics of Donald Trump, I do think there's a maximum out there is judge a man by his progeny. Now, I don't mean if there are a lot of people that have trouble with kids. And I say there, but for the grace of God, go I think there's a lot of things that can disrupt a child's growth path. But that doesn't, that doesn't preclude you from praising a family that seems to have done very well. You know, you can, you can reserve judgment

on a family where it doesn't go well, while at the same time lavishing praise on a family where it has done well. And it's hard not to look at that Trump family and go, Look, they were all born into privilege and wealth. And look at them. They're doing pretty good. And the biggest testament at all to Trump is that they want to be around him. They like their dad. And last night, what was made clear is they liked their granddad.

Kai Trump, 17. Awesome. Brilliant move, by the way. Freaking brilliant move. Here comes this little Gen Z or I guess was she Gen Z. Does that make her Gen Z? She comes out on stage. She hugs her dad.

I'd be younger than that. maybe maybe the next one after z i don't know where maybe after z but yeah she's probably she's 17 i think but she comes out she looks great she hugs her dad and the look that you had a split screen of her talking and donald trump reacting and that was some of the most authentic emotion i've ever seen out of donald trump i thought it was similar when sarah huckabee sanders was up there telling stories about her children and their interaction with the president but at watching his granddaughter and even watching laura trump to a certain extent but his grand that was a brilliant move and someone noted this morning i think it was dana perino noted it was in the it was

time where all the networks were taking the feed so they put her in the right time slot so that everyone saw it and uh i just i thought she was i thought she was genuine i thought she was adorable and I thought she really humanized this man. Absolutely. And I will just say, I think it's a huge testament to him. The way that his family reacts to him, I hope that my children want to be a part of my life in the same way that his entire family wants to be a part of his life.

What do you want to hear from him tonight, Michelle? Like, what are your expectations? What are your hopes for what you hear from Donald Trump? One quick aside, I have a friend who absolutely hates Donald Trump. But I asked her the other night. I said, okay, compare the children of Donald Trump and Joe Biden. Whom would you trust more? She was sort of like, yeah, yeah, got to give you that.

All right, what I want to hear tonight, I do want to hear a unifying message. You know, I got to say I was disappointed with some of the tweets after Amber Rose, some of the ex post after Amber Rose spoke on the first night. You know, they called her a slut. They called her this, you know, pro choice, whatever. I want the tent to be that big. I want the tent to continue to grow. I thought, I didn't watch her, but I listened to Amber Rose.

And I thought, okay, she can actually influence people. And I have seen people that you would not expect to be Republicans jumping on the Trump bandwagon for a variety of reasons. So I want to continue to see him welcoming everybody into this tent. I, you know, we're not, I don't think we need to be selective and we need to ostracize people who are pro-choice. I happen to be one of them with exceptions, but I happen to be one of them. So don't ostracize them. So I want to see that same authenticity, that emotion that we've sort of seen in those moments that I described, where he humanizes himself.

He thanks the right people. He praises the right people and he welcomes everyone. I think this R&C has been tremendous, absolutely seamless. I think the everyday Americans have been home runs. And so I want to see this kind of now end with a big, big moment where we finally, for the first time hear from him since he's been shot and see a man who people believe can be their president and isn't evil and doesn't want to hurt anyone. and by the way we have no evidence of him wanting to hurt anyone when does he you know it's just that that you know he's going to put people in camps and he's going to fire journalists and i don't know if i'll have a future and all that's i just i don't know where they're getting their evidence they're not so you have a couple of things here i'd love to follow up on so did i accurately hear you describe yourself as pro choice with exceptions yes what i find fascinating about you telling me that which i did not know know is I'm painting with a broad brush here, a generalization, but not an inaccurate generalization, just means there's exceptions. Most women who are pro-choice, it becomes the defining voting issue

for them. From that flows every other political opinion. Yeah, that's clear with you. It's clear with you. And that, I think, makes you an exception. I mean, most women who describe themselves as pro-choice, I think it is their leading vote issue. It's their number one defining issue. And it's not that way with you? Not even close. And what I would say to those women is, it'd be nice to have a choice, but you've got to be alive and in a safe country to have that choice. All other things for me, the top issue for me is foreign, you know, is domestic security, foreign policy, the safety of this country for everyone. I'm here in Minnesota, where, as you know, we were, this is in my backyard, we're the George Floyd riots.

And I want everyone to feel like they can go out in their communities and be safe. I've seen the downtown in Minneapolis change dramatically. It's so depressing and sad. So people have said to me, oh, why are you worried about crime? You know, look at your neighborhood. I can't care about every other neighborhood in America. I do. So to me, it flows from that.

So I like to tell women who make abortion their top thing. It's like, wouldn't you like to be alive to have any choice? whether it's educational choice, you know, choice as to whether or not to keep your child. And by the way, I'm one of those. It's all right in the first trimester. You know, legal, safe, and rare is what I am. And so because I don't want to, I don't think some politicians should have the right to tell a young girl whether or not she has to go through with a pregnancy. And that's basically my bottom line.

But I do not believe in late-term abortions. I don't, I'm not even, you know, and I've lost children, Will, I, I had to go through processes where I, I had so much problem getting pregnant, so much of a problem getting pregnant. And, you know, I had to have babies taken out of me because they were no longer living. So if you qualify that as an abortion, which I don't, you know, people think that's an abortion. That's not. That's a medical procedure. That's okay. So it's a very nuanced issue, but it is, it is, it is, it is, never been my top issue, and it never will be. You know, it's interesting, Michelle. So as you and I are sitting here broadcasting, I didn't know this. You know, I'm sitting here listening to you. I'm listening to you intently. And you've done this. And I'm sitting here thinking, okay, and I'm going to tie this all together. But do I want to debate, Michelle, on this? Because I disagree on some things that, you know, we have a difference of opinion, you and I on this issue. And I, and I sit there. We may not have a difference of opinion on where we are legally because neither of us have really laid out like,

you know, should it be a state issue or whatever. But then there's the moral and personal issue as well. And I could debate you, but I don't want to. And here's why, because we're having this, like that's a deep conversation that in and of itself is worthy of easy an hour, half hour, easy hour conversation. And one you want, and I 100% think you and I would pursue it with goodwill and trust. But this came up. But you and I had this conversation because it came up in the context of who should be welcomed into the Republican Party and who should be welcomed onto the stage of the Republican National Convention. And one of the things I've come to believe, I saw Alexei Lawless say this, on Fox and Friends, actually, Alexie Lawless, Fox Sports,

soccer analyst. He's like, look, I come from the world of sports, and so do you, Michelle, and so do I. And one thing you know is you don't agree with all your teammates. In fact, a lot of times you don't even like your teammates but you are common you are united in a common purpose a greater purpose not one where you um are in 100% lockstep on every issue but on the main issue right and the main issue is i think as you point out for the republican party winning an election but not not not not not i don't think without mores without principles without without without without direction. And I know what you're talking about. Matt Walsh is the guy who basically drove this. He said, there's no way that Amber Rose should be on that stage. She doesn't represent

Republican values. And you and many, many, many, many others went after Matt Walsh. And I lean more towards you because politics is a process of team building, of coalition building. It's not a purity test like your religion may be. You know, it's not, it's not, I just think sometimes we conflate these different worlds and the different purposes of a political party versus a church. That being said, I do think it's an open discussion. When have you created such a big tent that you've lost the sense of who you are? That is an open question. I don't think Amber Rose talking about why she saw the light or got deprogrammed or lost

the brainwashing. Thanks to her father, she said she saw the light regarding the truth of Donald Trump, represents losing your principles in pursuit of an electoral victory for Republicans. And I agree with that. And the fact that I am pro-choice, by the way, does not make me pro-abortion. Like, I see these women online who say, I've had 17 abortions and I want to say to them, have you heard of birth control? Have you had taken any other steps to prevent this situation?

I mean, to me, it's a last resort. it's a last resort so it's i don't think people who are pro choice like me are like woohoo pro abortion got to have one i mean these women that come out and say oh i wish i'd had had an abortion like my mom did so i could fit that's nuts that's that's a little nuts to me but they're entitled to their opinion and like j d vance said last night we should have disagreements so we can discuss the disagreements civilly and come to conclusion that we can all live with. No, we shouldn't give up all of our principles.

And I have a, trust me, when people say defund the police, that's a line for me. Don't bring that into, don't bring that into the Republican Party. Don't bring that into the conservative movement. I've got lines. So you're right. We don't have to give up all of our principles, but we can have discussions. And I've had some deep ones. And I'd love to with you sometime over a beer talk about this because I'm completely open-minded.

And I have moved a little bit in my position on choice, but I remain where I am. Well, I look forward to that, Michelle. And I look forward to tonight. I agree with you as well. I mean, A, I don't think the advice would land. I think Donald Trump does what he wants to do. Although he takes advice. He solicits advice.

He does. He does solicit advice. But I think that there's a real opportunity. And by the way, his speaking style and success would never have been coached. There is no media consultant, no public speaking manual that would have led him to his success as an orator. It just is. It's uniquely him. But I do think he would benefit from taking that stage tonight.

And if there are some converts to be one. And my buddy Pete Hexat told me yesterday that he met one at a diner this week after the assassination attempt. So there might be, for the first time in the decade, people that are winnable for Donald Trump, go win them tonight. Go show them who you are. Go unify America. Couldn't agree more. And when you say he takes advice, I remember speaking to Condoleez-Rice about this. He invited her to the Oval Office to meet with him.

And she said to me, he listens. He genuinely listens. She's no Trump fan, but she told it like it was. And people have said that again and again and again. So I'm with you. I think what you just said is what I'd like to hear as well. You know, welcome everybody in. And everybody is welcome to the Michelle Tofoya podcast.

I'm sure it's Spotify, it's Apple, it's everywhere. She's on our own. She no longer takes a check from Comcast. Instead, that now goes to Joy Reid. But she is on her own now. And we're glad to have her here on the Will Kane podcast. every time, Will Cane Show, every time we can. Michelle Tofoy, thanks so much for being with us.

You got any time, Will, great to see you. All right, take care. Awesome discussion. Awesome discussion. Derek Reinhold says on YouTube, my father-in-law, Will, my father-in-law is battling Alzheimer's disease right now. I'm seeing the same symptoms with President Biden as I see with him. And Martin on YouTube says, make beards great again. Martin, I think beards have been great again.

Here's the real debate. Here's the real question. have beards been made great and now beards are on their way out every fad every trend has its day in the sun and i got to tell you if you look at the younger guys not the gen xers like me or the millennials like jaddy vance but if you start looking at the gen z you know what they're rocking not the beard the stash so if we're keeping up it may be make mustaches great again all right would you rather rocket to start him like J.D. Vance. Or Freddy Adieu? Or Brony James? Or arrive as a late bloomer. That's next on the Will Cain Show. For a limited time at McDonald's, enjoy the tasty

breakfast trio. Your choice of chicken or sausage McMuffin or McGrittles with a hash brown and a small iced coffee for five bucks plus tax. Available until 11 a.m. at participating McDonald's restaurants. Price excludes flavored iced coffee and delivery. It's been bubbling up in the text chain here of the Will Cain show as Paul Skeen's. Pittsburgh Pirates pitcher. Young guy just lights it up at the Major League Baseball All-Star game. Yesterday, Kevin Sullivan is the youngest ever debutante into the MLS at the age of 14. And J.D. Vance at the age of 39 becomes your vice presidential candidate.

And that is, if you peek too early, are you a Roman candle? Do you risk burning out? Do you risk becoming Carrie Wood? Would you rather be a late bloomer? It is the Will Cain Show streaming live at foxnews.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Always on demand. Apple, Spotify, or on YouTube. Green on YouTube says, in the spirit of talking about hair,

button your shirt, Will, the chest hair. is gross. Well, green. You think that's funny, do you, two a days? A little bit. Well, I've got a shirt with an, oh, I see you got the giggles too, tinfoil. You got, I got a shirt with an awkward second button. And, I mean, you saw me do it during the commercial break when you sent me this comment,

two of a days. I did this, and I measured it up, and I don't like it. It's too high. It's too high. Feldy in debate. It's too high. And so then I got to go here and am I supposed to be persecuted green because I was born with chest hair? Is that how it is? If I had no chest hair, you'd be fine. So now you're anti-chest hair guys? Racist. It's fine. It's a tough. What is the percentage, what is the percentage of dudes

with chest hair? Like, let's take out the shavers and the tremors. Like, just, is the chest, is chest hair 30% of men? Let's see. I'm curious about this You look that up While we take an informal poll here among the Willisha Raise your hand if you have chest hair I do

Well you're too young James Not really Oh tin foil and two a days have chest hair James only has it in the middle You know when you're like 16 You get that little patch right there in the middle The sole patch of chest hair When he gets a little older

He's got hit on the sole He's got a sole patch chest hair And just a little long ones around the nipple but otherwise he's bare-chested. So, I'm... I can't find the right thing. Go ahead, two a days. I'm saying 38%...

You don't know the percentage? He's got papers of shirtless men here. I Google the wrong thing. I'm on some weird websites. 38% of men displayed a light amount of chest hair. 56% displayed... a moderate amount of chest hair. I don't know if this is the right thing.

50% moderate. I don't know what moderate means. Like, okay. Probably yours, not that we're looking. Mine? Mine's pretty, I got, I got full coverage. There's just like an Italian chest hair, you know? It just seems to be a lot of these button downs must have awkward top ones.

They just don't think about us. They don't think about chest hair guy with these buttons. That's a whole market. And I know there's some people out there that have told me, one of my buddies actually sent me a shirt like this with the hidden button. You can get ones with the hidden button. But it's all too much work, to be honest. In the end, it's just too much effort to avoid a comment here or there by somebody like Green. Jeanette Byram says, I doubt he has COVID.

They just need to isolate him talking about Joe Biden. Steel Magnolia says, I smell desperation from the Democrats. Ryan Edwards on YouTube says they always accuse others of what they. they are in fact guilty of typical projection i don't think there's any greater like confucius style lesson that i've learned over the last five years than the value and the analysis of projection people accuse you of the sins that they are guilty what'd you learn to a days as you did a little research in my discussion with michel to foya on the history of the hair part i did bring that up that's just one of those things cataloged in the brain here that hit some point but loses a little bit of

specificity over time. I believe, what would you say my hair is right now? I'm parted on the left. Left. I'm parted on the left, and it's going to the right. I think all of us are on the show. Okay. I used

to be parted on the right with it going to the left. You're on the left. And I believe the research, I remember research saying that if you part your hair on the right side of your head, you're more creative, more left side-brained, more artistic. If you are parting your hair on the other side, on the left side, with it going right,

you're more alpha, more aries, more leader. And I'm curious if you found that validated in your research two days. So I found this article called The Hair Part Theory from 1999, Catherine Walter. So I don't know if this is accurate or anything, but I'm going to read it anyways. Men with a left part, it's natural for men, usually works well for them. Perceived as popular, successful, strong, traditional can be out of touch with the feminine side of themselves. Examples are John Wayne, Tom Brokaw, John F. Kennedy. Like it.

Edward M. Kennedy. But then, uh, Teddy. Bobby Jr. Bobby is on the other side. But yes. Junior or his dad, Bobby? Robert Kennedy Jr. or his dad, Bobby? one. Oh, Bobby, Bobby the Senior is on the other one. Robert F. Kennedy

is on men with the right part is usually unnatural for men can create an uncomfortable image can cause social shunning and is also more of like a feminine side of men, which is

examples are Al Gore, Rush Limbaugh, Robert F. Kennedy, Charlie Rose, and Tom Snyder are all right side partners. They were all right side parters. So it was more feminine. Yeah. Well, I was a right side parter.

If you go to old pictures of me, like when I was on CNN, I was a right side parter appropriately, more feminine on CNN. And I did go in to get my haircut by a dude one time. And he said, immediately, I think it was first time he goes, you're part in your hair on the wrong side. And I said, why? And he didn't know any of this theory stuff. He just said, look at your hair. Look at the way it goes. Look at the way it grows.

This is all wrong. Who's ever been doing your hair? hair like this. Just trust me. Let me do this. He did it immediately. Boom. I was like, that's the real me. Thank you. And now I'm Fox Alpha CNN leader. When did you change? Right? Right? Right. Sigma. I'm going to go, it was probably 12, 13, maybe like that. 2012, maybe. Dan and I are getting our hair cuts this weekend. Is there anything we should ask the barber? I'm cutting all my hair off tomorrow speaking of which going really you're going like a buzz cut yeah pretty much doing the fade like we talked about oh you're getting married yeah getting married got my bachelor party this

weekend who what's happening on the bachelor party where you going going to uh newport rhode island for some golf oysters and beers is what i'm telling my fiance anyways Is she listening? Just kidding. What in the Northeast, in Texas, bachelor party destinations, I mean, there's a lot of Vegas because it's not a very far flight,

a lot of New Orleans because it's very accessible. I had a redneck bachelor party. I had a weekend on the lake, bass fishing, striper fishing. Love that. Beer drinking. like 12 dudes, boats.

And then the only, I've thrown a couple, but one of mine was LaHita, Texas, which is on the border with Mexico. This is before 9-11. One of my buddies got married, though, quickest. And that was awesome because you're out there in the desert, you know, crossing over in the pickup bed of a truck into Mexico to drink beers in a little tiny town. But the truth is, this is my opinion on bachelor parties. I have a strong opinion. Vegas Boucher Party is not as great as the stereotype, okay? Because here's what happens.

Everybody scatters to the winds. I'm going to go gamble at this casino. I don't like gambling. I'm going to go here. I like going to go to the bar. I want to go to a strip club. Whatever. It's a whole host of choices.

And before you know it, if you've got a dozen guys on your boucher party, they're scattered up in groups of three. That's what happens. And the best, I hear, my best times in life are me and my buddies gathered around a table. yes having cocktails and beers and telling stories and talking and laughing and just feeling good at home that's my favorite and you know because of that my some of my favorite times are the morning after i used to love the morning after like whatever coffee living room everybody sitting on the on the on the couch breaking down what happened the night before and a perfect bachelor party maximizes that like how much time are we together talking laughing having a big time

So Newport could be that. It could be that. You know what I mean? New Orleans is better than Vegas, but I think some of these, like, lakes and countryside. I don't mean countryside's like a bunch of chicks going on of wine tasting. You get what I'm getting. We still want some fishing and guns and stuff like that in there. But be together, dudes.

Golf is great for that. Yeah, the first option was Atlantic City. That's the closest one, like a Vegas type thing. So that was thrown out there. But I wanted exactly what you wanted. just a bunch of guys hanging around Friday night. We're getting pizzas, beer, playing poker, cornhole, hanging out, having a good time, golf the next morning.

Yes. And just hanging out. And, like, it's the guys that are closest to me in my life, my family, my friends. You know, I'm excited to have it be, quote, unquote, boring, as some people might say. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And you're getting a fade in time for your wedding. That's incredible.

That's awesome. All right. So we had this, the four of us, in our text chain. And I don't think I forced it. It kind of all came together. With J.D. Vance as the nominee, he's 39 years old to run with Donald Trump as vice president. He's rocketed to stardom. And in my world, I told you guys, my son bleached his hair.

I told you that last Friday on the sports episode of the Will Kane show. And I let him do it. My boys are super into soccer. And so at first it was platinum silver, but it has washed into like a bleached blonde. And now I know why he wanted it. and all these soccer boys want it. Because last night, the youngest ever debut into MLS occurred. Kavin Sullivan for the Philadelphia Union.

He's already been signed guys by Manchester City. He just can't go until he's 18 because of labor laws in Europe. So it's been the next four years playing for Philadelphia. He's 14 years old. 14. Like, he is a year older than my younger son who's super into soccer. and Kevin Sullivan has a bleached blonde hair. So that's where all these boys want this hair.

And then also with Paul Skeens, like a stud in Major League Baseball. Started the All-Star game, was awesome. So the four of us have been having this debate. Like, it started a couple of months ago when it came to pitchers in baseball. Like, I am super skeptical of the pitcher who's a stud in his early 20s. I just am, because I've seen too many Carrie Wood situations. Like, you throw for three or four years, you're unhittable, and then you blow your arm out, and it's over. where I feel like there's more pitchers that arrive at age 27, 28, even 29, and then last a decade

pitching until their late 30s like Verlander or Scherzer. I'm not saying those guys were late bloomers. DeGrom, whatever. You know, there's, he actually is a, he blows his arm out, but you guys get what I'm saying. And I think it applies to everything. In soccer, the Kevin Sullivan thing, Freddie Adieu, right? If everyone who's over the age of James will remember Freddie Adieu. and Freddie Audeau was 14, we thought we had us a soccer stud in America, and he burned out.

And I'm just wondering about this burnout theory, right? And I even want to force it and talk about it in terms of politics. Like, I believe here's something, everybody thinks the future is just a bigger version of the present, in everything. But most notably in economics, everybody thinks the economy is only a bigger version of the present, both bad and good, right? If it's trending bad, it's only going to be worse forever. If it's trending good, it's only going to be bigger and better forever. And we take these guys, Jordan Speeth, Jordan Speeth's going to be the next Tiger Woods because look at him, he's going, and it just doesn't happen, man. And I'm wondering, like when it comes to J.D. Vance, is he set up for 30 years of relevance in American politics?

Or is he possibly have to look at guys like Kerry Wood or Freddie Adieu and go, it's not always good to arrive early? But what does J.D. Vance have to do to screw that up? I mean, he has the setup. What can he do to make it not be his rise to stardom right now? Well, I think that if we're looking for commonalities on guys that burn out and fail after reaching such great heights at a young age, is the inability to handle success, mostly. Or it's all projection. So it's one of those two things. We projected him too quickly and too early. That could be the case with Kevin Sullivan. Like, you know, At 14, we still don't know how big he's going to be, how fast he's going to be, you know. So there's a lot of mystery left that we're filling in with projection. And I think that applies with J.D. Vance as well. I think there's some projection in J.D. Vance that leaves the future open to mystery. But the other thing is how do you deal with success?

And whether or not it's Johnny Mansell or others that are high flyers, like Tom Brady wasn't an overnight success. I mean, was he in his second year? He was pretty early in there, but... He was 25 for the first championship. So what proved it out for Brady, though, was what he had underneath, like, that grinder mentality. I almost think like this. If you were a late bloomer,

I actually think it's a better life. Like, because I think man needs something to strive for. You need the carrot out there in front of your face to keep running hard. and you'll stack up 20 years of productivity chasing that carrot going when am I ever going to get it and the the guy that gets the carrot the rabbit that gets the carrot right away has to keep convincing himself to run hard you know what I'm saying like there's another carrot and another care and they're unique people like Brady that always see another carrot but I think most are like

I got the carrot it was great and all but I'm not sure I want to run for another one you know what I mean. So I almost feel like you go further, the longer it takes you to get to the carrot. I think with Brady, part of it was he had that never enough personality. And he was asked, would you want your kids to do this? And he said, no, like, I wouldn't want them to kind of have that same internal torture that I have that drove me. But I think I see there's also the argument too that there's certain fun to be had with success at a younger age that when you're a little older and you have family and responsibilities, you're not going to have that sort of youthful extravagances.

Yeah, but that could also be the downfall. So it really, some of these guys that do it well, Skeen's and Vance, they both have military background. So it could be that. Yes, Skeen says, I think Skeens has said he wants to go into the military when his playing days in Major League Baseball are over. He spent a year or two at the Air Force Academy and wants to go back into the Air Force.

Pretty awesome. It's every walk of life, by the way. It's acting. Two days, you're the guy that, I think it was, or maybe it was 10 full of Brian Cranston. Like, Brian Cranston doesn't break through until what? Early 50s? Yeah, he had like, he did like a toothpaste commercial in his like early 40s or something like that. And then he got Malcolm the middle and all that stuff after.

So, very interesting. He was a side character did some, you know, Seinfeld stuff. But he wasn't, he had a big break until Breaking Bad. And then John Hamm, I think, was 39. You know, you say Brian Cranston's Breaking Bad, but you heard two of a day say Malcolm in the Middle, a show that never hit my radar, I never watched. I would be curious, do you think Cranston has made more money off of Breaking Bad or Malcolm in the Middle? Because, like, those sitcoms, when they go into syndication, you make money forever. The Friends Group still makes.

Right. Crazy amounts of money. I don't know. I think that I choose the late bloomer. We all want it early. We all want it fast. We all want it yesterday. We all want to be Cabin Sullivan or J.D. Vance. I think there's something to be said for getting it a little later in life, both for the pursuit and the chase over time, for the reward once you get it. I think I'd rather be a late bloomer. All right. That's going to do it for us today right here on the Will Cain Show. Remember, subscribe on YouTube or Spotify right now because we were going to do a special episode. after Donald Trump speaks at the Republican National Convention, you'll only get that by subscribing on Spotify or YouTube. We'll see you again next time. on Apple Podcast, and Amazon Prime members, you can listen to this show, ad-free, on the Amazon music app. Listen to the all-new Brett Bear podcast featuring Common Ground, in-depth talks with lawmakers from

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