Will Cain Country - What To Expect From JFK Files Release, PLUS A Sit-Down With Comedian Andrew Schulz!

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

On today's episode of The Will Cain Show, Will chats with the host of 'The Guy Benson Show' on FOX News Radio, Guy Benson to discuss what we should expect from the potential full release of the files on the assassination of former President John F. Kennedy. They also pick back up on their conversation from last week on Guy's show about how to approach the issue of pronouns with trans individuals.  Will also shares two parts of his sit-down conversation with comedian Andrew Schulz where the two of them discuss how to approach different points of view, especially around politics, how Schulz is able to tailor his comedy to each community, taking honor in following in your family's business, and much more.  Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One. JFK files set to be released today. Nothing Burger or one of the four to five conspiracies forwarded, validated in who killed John F. Kenby, Jr. That, plus under what circumstances would you use someone's preferred pronouns? All that and more with Fox News, radio host. Guy Benson. Two, comedian Andrew Schultz sits down with me for 40 minutes. I hear some of that today, as he tells us, what he wishes we could take from Japan. How about a little bit of American pride?

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So make sure you subscribe to both the Spotify, Apple, and YouTube feeds and tune into the Fox News channel to make sure you get all of that conversation with Andrew Schultz. Fellas, I got a lot of nice notes about that conversation. It was different than what you normally see on Fox News. It was, as a buddy of mine said, it wasn't an interview. It was conversation. And because of that, it's a little bit breaking the mold. I had breakfast this morning with a friend talking about the show, you know, and what we're trying to do.

And I don't know that everything I'm trying to do is going to work or everything that I'm trying to do is right. I just know that it's my vision. And I ask myself sometimes, wouldn't it be just easier to do what's normal? Because easy would probably be a success. And you say, well, what's the point? What's the point in doing something different? What's the point in breaking the mold? And the point isn't just to be different, but all I can come back to two a days is the point is to be real.

Yeah. That's it. It's just to do my version of the news, which is to try things where we authentically connect with the audience. Can I tell you, I don't know if we have tinfoil. We might not be able to because of the technology of bringing in Guy Benson in just one moment. But a little limited. Two days. Authentically, one of my biggest fears.

was confirmed was was lived out yesterday in the NBA it was lived out at a New York Nick's game it was lived out by Tracy Morgan I saw that did you see speaking of comedians did you see what happened to Tracy Morgan it was awful yeah it's a 15 minute it's horrible yeah that's my really a 50 minute I heard it's 15 15 to clean up 15 minutes that's my nightmare Tracy Morgan sitting court side first row celebrity seating at madison square garden they have a row they have a section where they always seat celebrities and then they come along with a camera at some point and introduce the celebrities on the jumbotron inside the stadium this wasn't during that moment but he's in a

very prominent visible seat court side and people caught it on camera they caught video they caught still photos, Tracy Morgan just pukes all over the floor of the garden. And it was posted everywhere and I saw some people saying, don't do this, don't make fun of Tracy Morgan, don't laugh. He has health issues. He was in a horrible car wreck. He's had, I think, a kidney transplant or kidney failure. He's had all these various health maladies. And I'm not here to make fun of Tracy Morgan. I'm just here to say like you two days this is one of my nightmares

like you have literally have we all had this nightmare the whole walking around in public naked and you don't know how you got there and you don't you know all you know is the stress in your dream of like how do I get some place where I can get some clothes

and I'm in public and I'm naked it's incredibly conspicuous well this is one of those as well but it's more like a waking nightmare whenever you have that feeling and we know it's universal we all feel this right you have that oh i don't feel great you have to get not only do you have to get somewhere private ideally you get over water or grass like even if i were alone if i were alone and it were 2 30 a.m and i was stumbling home from a night

out with the boys and i was standing in the driveway i would hustle over the grass right because there's something about on a hard surface where you're like it's an extra humiliating You hear the splatter, you can see it, and you think I'm going to have to hose this off. It takes extra cleaning. If you can just make it to the grass, you can walk away, no harm, no foul. He did it on glossed over pine. He did it on the basketball court. Getting anxious thinking about it.

And it wasn't like it, it wasn't dainty. It was a full-on evacuation. Horrible vomiting right there in front of the world at the next game. You know who was right down the line on the court side? Stefano, who we had on. He was about, like, six people over. I thought it might be a... And can you imagine?

Because you're self-conscious... You're self-conscious because... How about everybody around you? Like, what they have to deal with? I'll go out hiding for a while. I know, and Tracy Morgan did post an update from the hospital. He was taken out in a wheelchair. I think he actually had a nosebleed as well.

And he had an update from the hospital where he's fine, and he's suggesting it was food poisoning, which, okay, to take it back to food poisoning, that's all of our nightmare. It's not that he's suffering from all of these health issues. He got something we all get, food poisoning, and he didn't see it coming. I'm pretty good, by the way, seeing it coming. I don't get too surprised.

You've always had those buddies that can't see it coming. I have a dog that way, too. I have one dog that you can see it coming, and she has a big wind-up, and the other one, the new one, saint, no warning whatsoever. Boom. Right there, wherever he is. I'm a see it coming guy. I can generally tell.

Can you see it coming when it comes to JFK? Is it going to be a big nothing burger, or will we get? In the words of the Deputy White House Press Secretary, details regarding the assassination of JFK that will shock Americans. Let's get into that and much more with story number one. is the host of the guy benson show here at foxnews.com and he joins us now here on the will cane show what's up guy will do i not get in on this vomit analysis are we moving on i would love your analysis of tracy morgan no i i agree with you i saw the the screenshot or like the still shot on

twitter and my reaction was not ooh that's gross or oh i hope he's okay i got there eventually it was just pure terror that something like that would happen to me. You're 100% right about that. And like I sometimes you just can't control it, right? I had a really horrible flight years ago where luckily I just parked myself right next to the bathroom. I had had food poisoning and I was just shuttling back and forth. And I was not even upset about how sick I was. I was upset about what other people might have thought about me rushing in and out of the bathroom constantly. That was the overwhelming thing. Like, get me out of the nightmare of other people seeing this.

I will refund all day and not in the privacy of my own home. But with anyone else in the vicinity, that, I don't know, just did something to me. And you made it. So it was a multiple trip to the little closet bathroom in an airplane. And you made it inside, despite often having to wait because of lines. You made it safely each time to the lavatory? I did. And it started.

I was on a vacation. I was overseas. It started there. like the last day of the vacation was just a waking nightmare. But at least I was in a hotel room without a bunch of people around. But I had to get home. I had to get back to the U.S. And so that flight, it's like a five-hour flight, was memorably awful and just riddled with anxiety.

And by the way, I came home, I got some test done. I went to another event. It sort of calmed down. It still was not feeling great. And I got a call from the doctor, like, day or two later, I had not one, just wait for this, not one but two different strains of E. coli that I had gotten from the food poisoning. So, I mean, that would explain what happened to me. My body has never experienced something like that before or since. Thank God. Hopefully that

continues. But to your point, it was less about the physical ailment on that flight. It was more about trying to not do something even more humiliating around other people. and food poisoning is the malady that gives you the least warning of all the reasons that you're going to have to throw up food poisoning is the one that that doesn't give you a warning sign this is this is coming um you have a young child i will tell you you're in store for this but it's just not going to be you it's going to be your child i'll tell you two versions of a story one with detail it's happened numerous times on an airplane with one of my boys and when they were younger and it's mostly happened to my wife because she traveled with them alone when I had to work or something like that and there's just not much you can do like she's been the person where it's in the aisle she's been that person because of a kid but here's my little story my wife was out of town one time and I took the boys and I'm going to say they were age seven and four maybe six and three

to Brooklyn I was living in New York City we're going to go to like one of these like I don't think it's a temporary carnival but they have like a you know one of the most overrated rides in the history of carnival rides which is the the carousel like who travels to go on a carousel but i did with another dad we're going to take these guys down there so on the way home um i don't remember if my son my older son said said hey i'm not feeling good but i remember giving him a bottle of water crowded subway around madison square garden so you're like at 30 something street right and he takes the water down and no warning begins for everybody listening I'm sorry this is not you know the best thing to listen to

he begins projectile okay and my only reaction is I don't know what to do and by the way as part of his projectile he turns and and vomits on his brother who's like three or four just starts crying it's a spray version so I reach my handout. And all that did is like when you, you know, when you have a hose and you're like, you want to get more power out of your hose, you put your thumb over a little bit of the end of the hose to get a little more power. That's all it did. So it goes in more directions too. With more power. Dude, all over this car and people in New York City, they're diving for the edges. They're backing up. They're diving. Everybody clears out. It's a blast radius. It's a total

blast radius on this subway car. And, and it's everywhere. And I don't know how to make that more grotesque or more vivid but that's what that it is everywhere and um i think the train stopped at pin station so 30 something and people get off but like i'm like well we're on the express train i've got to get to 70 seconds that's only two more stops so we're going to hang and there was one dude who he had gone native in new york you know when like there's a there's a certain type of new york city creature that's evolutionarily one step away from a rat like he just is new york and things don't bother him and he took those little coffee napkins that you get when you get a coffee, those little small thin ones, and he had a stack of him, and he created a dam, because it was the subway seats

that's like a bench, you know how it's, they have those ones that are benches, he created a dam so it wouldn't flow and make him get up from his seat. He did not want to go to his seat, so use the coffee napkins to stop it from flowing down to his area. We didn't make it a 70 second. They shut down the train at Times Square, and we all had to get off at 4. So that's my worst parental story, something akin to Tracy Morgan. I do find it interesting that a common denominator in these projectile vomit stories,

today at least, is Madison Square Garden, both involving your son. And, C. Morgan, I wonder if that might have something to do with the New York Rangers. I don't know, but it's possible. The other thing I'll point out is because my kid's young. My kid's 15, 16 months. just the other day I was like in charge of watching him and I was on my phone and all of a sudden I heard and like this conversation's gross so we're just having a gross conversation here everyone I heard what sounded like a shall we say wet burp and then I hear him sort of giggling and I look

up and his wet burp was in fact not a huge but a bit of a puke onto the coffee table at which point he was fascinated with what was in front of him and he started spreading it around with his hands and then clapping for himself gleefully at the game he was playing and i just looked up and i just i yelled no and then he doesn't know quite he knows it's a bad word that means something negative but he he hasn't fully processed how to use it so as soon as he hears it he repeats it back but with angs with like with nervousness and trepidation so i go no he goes no and he's got just it's it's it's on the table it's on his hands it's in like it's someone made like a mini almost like a snow angel, a vomit, and that's what he had done.

And I'm like, okay, this is parenting. But at least that was private in my house, not in front of strangers in a subway car. You win that story easily. Yeah. Well, I'll take no, I won't take my gold medal here in this gross Olympics for granted because you've got a lot of parenting left ahead of you to rack up some worse times. Guy Benson with the Guy Benzen show here on the Will Kane show. okay guy i'm debating this today so of course i'll be doing the will cane show at four o'clock on fox

news speaking with my producers this morning and it's difficult because i said i do think that we need to prepare to go deep as much as possible and devote as much time as possible to the potential release and revelations of the jfk files which are scheduled to take place this afternoon 80 000 documents according to president donald trump now guy there is a healthy level of skepticism even to the point of being jaded among the public, in part because of what happened a few weeks ago with the Epstein files, what turned out to be not much to nothing with the Epstein files, but also because of a half a century of nothing burgers largely when it comes to JFK. So I don't know, and it's hard to program around this, like, I don't know what to expect from this. I do know the deputy

White House press secretary went on News Nation and said, prepare for the nation to be shocked. will be shocking to the American people what they learn from the release of the JFK files. What do you think, Guy? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I was thinking back to, what was that famous TV flop with Geraldo many years ago? Is that Al Capone's Vault or something where there's all this buildup? And then it opens up and it's just there's nothing there. That would be the risk that you would run.

But I'm just putting this out there. And it's probably too late because you've only got a couple hours until you're live on Fox News channel, but any thought to doing the broadcast live from the grassy knoll, right? That's your neck of the woods. You could be there. You could be there building the anticipation. What an idea. How are you not a producer on the Will Kane show? And I think the answer is because you are the talent and star of the Guy Benson show. I have to bring that up. In fact, I'm tempted to stop this show and bring that up. I mean, obviously, I broadcast from Dallas.

It's right down the road. I could just stand out there, the entire show. And do the show from the grassy, you know, or from the library, what, the book depository, whatever it was? Like, pick your spot, do the show, and whatever news comes, you know, you break it or you don't, but at least you're there. You know, Guy, you could literally stand on the X. I could broadcast from the X.

It's marked on the street. It's marked there at Dili Plaza, where, you know, the fatal bullet hit um i'm gonna have to talk about that later today i have a quick side story before you before we come back to jfk one of my first things i did in tv when i was with the blaze i think it's when i first met you guy um i had a show called the cane conversations which was a long form interview show way before honestly i mean this is early in the days but honestly before rogan and i would do like 45 minutes to an hour with guests and i didn't invent the format obviously i just didn't do it i liked that thing and one of my first guests was haroldo and i'd never met

Geraldo and I really loved it and I think it's on YouTube and you can go back and it's a different version of Harald is the one you got to meet on the five because Geraldo was a bona fide television star it's hard to overstate that right he is a bona fide television star and in the 80s and 90s he was Oprah level big you know maybe not Oprah level but just short of Oprah level big so I asked him about the Al Capone vault thing you're talking about for anybody that doesn't know is too young, but in the 80s, he did a broadcast where they were opening Al Capone's vault in Chicago, and it was like, what will be in there? And they did it live. They didn't tape it. And they get in to the vault, and there's nothing in there. Really, there's nothing, like dusty bottles, broken or

empty, nothing. And Geraldo says, I was humiliated on live television. Humiliated. And he tells me the story. He goes back to his hotel room in Chicago, and he shuts his door, and he puts like a do not disturb, and he's in deep depression. And honestly, now that I have a show on Foxy, I never got that as much. Like, there's a lot of pressure to perform. I hate that word perform, but to execute. I can kind of understand why you would have been so depressed. He feels like he was humiliated.

And at some point, the next morning, I think he got a bottle of tequila. He said he drank. And the next morning, and this is his words, like the black porter who was working in the hotel room, said, Mr. Rivera, that knocks on the door to, you know, can I do anything for you? like, no, no. And he hands him a bunch of missed calls back then, you know, whatever. So it's pink slips. Like you get in the office, they used to have these pink things, missed call, whoever. So he hands him it. Rodel says it's a stack of pink slips of missed calls. He said somewhere between half a dozen and a dozen. And they are all television executives from every television network

and every whatever broadcast. I don't know if we had even started cable at that point, calling him to offer him a job. Every single one coming out of that was, we want you to come do stuff for us. And he just tells his story. It's like, you know, from the lowest, the low to the highest to high, and you can take whatever that you want from that when it comes to TV. But it was a big nothing burger publicly and privately for him.

It led to what I think then became the Geraldo Rivera show, syndicated and infamous, and led to, he was already famous, but superstar him for Rolda Rivera. Well, I would imagine it's because this is definitely, before my time. It's just something that I've, like, read about and, like, seen maybe internet clips of, but I don't think anyone blamed him, right? You're taking a huge risk, doing it live, not knowing what's on the other side of the door, and there's a chance to be this huge payoff and all these riches and scandalous stuff, or is this going to be

exactly what it was, nothing, but the attention, the buildup, I'm sure he milked it. I mean, like a pro, right? And that's, it wasn't the payoff. That was the problem, because he had no control over the payoff, right? He had no idea what was in there. It was the way he executed all the way up to the moment of the disappointment that probably pointed to the talent, right, which is obviously what a lot of executives saw around the country, hence the job offers and then this, you know, legendary or additionally legendary career. Right. All right. So we'll see if what kind of payoff there is today. This is according to Zero Hedge guy. Zero Hedge has an article up today talking about

the release of the JFK files. They say, in it, we're going to find out, hopefully, if any of these six theories, according to their tally come true, or at least the ball is advanced. Here are the six theories they have that are out there in the public domain that people discuss when it comes to JFK. One, the CIA killed JFK. This is in response to the failed bay of pigs invasion

and his promise afterwards to, quote, splintered the CIA into a thousand pieces and scattered into the winds. Two, the Soviet Union killed JFK in retaliation for the Cuban missile crisis. Three, Fidel Castro killed him in response to all the failed assassination attempts. The United States ran through the CIA on Fidel Castro. Four, the mafia kills JFK. Why? Because of the crackdown on the mafia under his brother, then Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy.

Five, Vice President Lyndon Baines Johnson conspires to kill JFK to take power. And then they have this one, which I haven't seen as much. Six, Israel killed JFK because of his opposition to the country's nuclear weapons development. I think that is most of the theories that have been forwarded. You could add the military industrial complex because his desire to go after reportedly the Joint Chiefs, again after the Bay of Pigs, but that would be tied. up a little bit in the CIA, and that was sort of the premise of Oliver Stone's JFK. Do you think any of that, first of all, where are you on this?

I'm going to guess you're not big on conspiracies, but I do think, for my own research guy, I think the simple explanation actually isn't very believable either, just rogue Lee Harvey Oswald. Yeah, so I saw the Oliver Stone movie maybe in a middle school, and I remember my brain was just on fire afterwards, like, oh, my gosh, this was a conspiracy that killed a president, holy cow. And then I did some research and found that a number, they took so many liberties in that movie. So I was like, okay, that's basically a work of fiction. So, you know, my sixth grade brain or whatever needed to process fact from fiction and separated out. So I think maybe the fact that there was so much artistic license taken in the movie, I felt almost a sense of betrayal when I realized how much

that was false, that I then defaulted into a not believing any of the conspiracy theories at all, just I sort of like reflexively went in the other direction. I guess, look, we'll see if the files tell us anything dramatic or explosive. I would say, based on the limited facts that I remember from this, because I haven't really done a deep dive in this in many years, but there was a part of me that agrees with you. It's like, really this one, guy who was reportedly not a very good shot was up in the building and was able to, you know, assassinate the president right there. Oh, and by the way, they catch him. And before they can ask him any serious questions, some other guy comes up in broad daylight and what a police station

or something and shoots him dead on camera. That sequence of events is suspicious. Whether or not this was a vast conspiracy involving national or world actors or just people who wanted to kill a president for whatever reason. I guess I would say I would not be stunned in any way, shape, or form if we learned that Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone. I guess the question is, how much more shocking could it get? If any of the six items that you just listed off, if any of them have significant evidence in support of one of those six, I would call that explosive, shocking, etc. I am not holding my breath for that today. I would be, I'm just skeptical. I'm skeptical that we're going to get anything like a holy cow, stop the presses, national conversation turning

revelation. But it's been decades. It's been kept under wraps for some reason for a very long time. And so I'm not hopeful for something crazy, but I'm not ruling it out. Does that make sense? Yes. So, you know, it's funny. I'd say it was two to three months ago. I did go down at the schoolbook depository, went to the grassy knoll, did the tour, have read, of course, saw JFK as well. My takeaway guy is this, and this is just me. This is just what I come away from this. I don't think there was a second shooter on the grassy knoll or behind the picket fence with the rail yard

and the six quote unquote tramps that were lined that way were rounded up and then ultimately released. I do think it's physically capable, possible for one guy to pull off those shots. I've seen it. I think there is something weird about the magic bullet where there is one bullet

that seemed to have passed through both John Connolly and JFK and the bullet itself, the one that they recovered, is pristine, and that's really weird because a bullet hitting bone and that kind of thing and ricocheting around, bullet takes damage, right? But I still think that

it's too difficult to pull off the second shooter thing, and the problem with conspiracies is not everybody can keep their mouth shut, and nobody is that competent. That's the general problem with conspiracies. Over decades. What set Lee Harvey-Oswalt? Confession from no one, right?

Right. the problem with lehar vioswald though is what set him into motion what worked behind the scenes and that's where i'm open to conspiracy more there's too many weird connections his back and forth to the USSR he was on the fbi's watch list um he was even listed as a potential threat when kennedy was to visit dallas he had tried to kill this other military i can't remember who it was this former military high ranking i think right wing leader at some point in dallas he missed it took a shot into his home he had just done things that are super weird and his connections just don't they don't pass the smell test that doesn't mean something happened but i think about

these scenarios this way guy okay if the mafia were behind it by the way i think the biggest piece of evidence to mafia involvement would be jack ruby like jack ruby could have been set into motion to do that and he did have a lot of connections they say now he's a low lever player but but it's still right but I just don't think the mafia could keep tight lips about this I just don't think and by the way if the mafia did it the government wouldn't have kept the secret for half a century there's no reason to keep that a secret right the mafia is a public enemy I actually don't think the USSR could have and would have pulled it off at that time both sides were actively trying to avoid world war and for them to do that would have really set us on

the path to a nuclear war I don't think Castro could have pulled it off that's a high level of competency that I just can't project onto the Cuban dictator. Maybe I'm wrong. The ones that this smell the most is there's a clear motive if JFK was super mad and was willing to dismantle to some degree the intelligence apparatus and the military industrial complex. And I will assume some level of ability to keep silence and competency to our national security. Everybody points to James Jesus, Engleton was the longtime counterterrorism leader. of the CIA. He's the subject of the Good Shepherd, played by Matt Damon. And, I mean, he is

notoriously tight-lipped. He is the modern-day security apparatus. I want to know what connections Lee Harvey Oswald had to our intelligence community. That's the main thing that I would be interested in looking through these 80,000 pages. What was his relationship to the CIA? Was he a CIA asset when he went to USSR was he when he came back i think that's what if i were pouring through the pages i'd be most looking for minutia in detail on i don't think we're going to have the bomb we're not going to get the answers but if you're looking for details it seemed to point you in a direction on that would be where i would be pointing my nose yeah and i i think like listening to you talk through all of it again it seems to me that i guess

In my mind, if I were to rank it, right, I've got three possibilities without doing the whodunit side of it, three vague possibilities. One is very straightforward, Lee Harvey Oswald, acted alone, and it's what it looked like, right? So that's option one. Option two is a vast conspiracy involving lots of people to do this and to cover it up. And then the third option, and I think this is probably my most likely option, is a non-vast conspiracy. So two or more people got together and colluded and figured out a way to kill JFK. I think it's much easier to contain a secret if there's fewer people, especially if one of

them's dead. One of them had just been shot dead. I think the more, the wider the circle expands, the less likely it is to be held secret forever, especially, as I said, like deathbed confession, someone has a late in life conversion religiously or whatever, and they, they, they, they, want to just finally get something off their chest. The fact that we've had none of that ever on this for decades leads me to believe it's probably not some giant conspiracy. But if there's a lower level conspiracy with multiple people involved in this, that would not surprise me. I just hope we learn something from this. And I hope it's not, I hope it's not stupid like, you know, like boosterism from this Deputy White House press secretary hyping this thing for no good

reason you know you shouldn't you shouldn't do that sort of thing around the assassination of a former president of the united states so if that person isn't way out over their skis doing a stupid hype machine that would lead me to lead lead to believe that we will learn something of interest out of this uh but i'm just i'm right sitting back skeptical for now i think that's a fair place to be more of the will kane show right after this following fox's initial donation to the kirk County Flood Relief Fund, our generous viewers have answered the call to action across all Fox platforms and have helped raise $6.5 million. Visit go.com forward slash TX flood relief to support relief and rebuilding efforts. From the Fox News Podcasts Network. Hey there, it's me. Kennedy, make sure to

check out my podcast. Kennedy saves the world. It is five days a week, every week. Download and listen at Fox Newspodcast.com or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. Welcome back to the Will Cain show. Before we go, Guy, at the risk of opening a big can of worm. So last week on the Guy Benson show at Fox News Radio from 3 to 6 p.m. Eastern Time, you had a really interesting conversation with me.

I was glad when I got the note, this is what you want to talk about. And I don't want to, it's never good guy to try to redo a date or a conversation. Nothing is ever as good the second time around. So I don't want to do that. But I may try to advance the ball.

And here's a quick synopsis. Guy and I had a conversation about when you choose to use pronouns for others, specifically in the trans community. It was the launching point was an online debate between Tommy Laren and Ali Beth Stuckey and Inez Stetman, where Tommy Laren said she would use the pronouns of somebody's choice, basically out of politeness, it was her argument. So the best example is, is Caitlin Jenner. And if when talking to Caitlin Jenner, if she was present with me and Guy right now,

would I say to Guy, well, her opinion, you know, she, when referencing Caitlin in the third person. Which you just did, by the way. As an illustration. No, but you said if she were in the room, you just kind of like it just naturally slipped. That was interesting. Oh, I did? Which is going to be an opposite of what I said my position is.

Right. Allie Beth Stuckian and Annette, Deppin said, no, that's not right. You don't use someone's pronouns out of politeness. You do what's right and true. So Guy said on his show that he would take the Tommy position, basically, that he would use Caitlin's proper noun name. I agreed. I would as well. I would not say Bruce. I would not go out of my way to be rude. I'm not trying to be rude. And I'm not even trying to be provocative. I would say Caitlin. But I would use his pronouns. I would say he, he, him. And the reason I would do so is because I draw my line

at objective reality. I don't feel like it's something that I'm owning, meaning it's not really even a subjective position in my mind. It's just like, that's objective reality. I'll use your name. Guy said he would move to using the pronoun of choice out of, out of politeness. He agreed with Tommy. So then we had this part where you said, I said, I think you're drawing an arbitrary line. And because I pushed you guy, I was like, well, would you use Z-Zer, they-them, you know, turtle, and you're like, no, no, I'm not going to. And we talked, we honed in on they-them, and you're like, because it's grammatically incorrect and plural versus singular and it's wrong. And I said, but that's the same thing as choosing to use the other person's chosen pronouns.

you divorced yourself from objective reality and you're now drawing ever increasingly arbitrary lines and you said to me will aren't you doing that just to a lesser degree when you choose to use their names i was talking to my wife about a guy afterwards and she made a point she's like you should have said this and it's true i should have i think your name guy is a subjective world like that doesn't impact the objective world around you you saying to me will from now on i want you to call me Lloyd instead of guy. Okay, just like Cassius Clay becoming Muhammad Ali, I'll do so. And I'll do so because it doesn't change objective reality.

You're no more guy than you are Lloyd. That just is. But I don't, my line is you don't get to change objective reality around you and force everyone else to conform to your subjective world. Does that explain my position anymore and show that I think it's not an arbitrary line that I'm choosing to draw on when I'll do someone's chosen name versus pronoun? Yeah, no, I get that. And also, just to clarify one other thing, the they, them, it was not so much me saying I wouldn't do it because it's grammatically incorrect. It's because it is so clunky and difficult to keep straight in my own mind. And for people to even understand who we're talking about when there's a plural, it's not like, oh, I'm a, I'm strict on the grammar stuff. And that's the line I'm drawing. It's more of like it's so, it's so awkward to try to communicate in a way that makes any sense. with the plural they, them, referring to one human being because that's their chosen thing.

And I fully recognize that a lot of this on my end is subjective and somewhat arbitrary. So there was an example, some of it has to do with like good faith and whether I think someone is trying to act in good faith or if someone is trolling and being an activist and being sort of very myopic about it and trying to set landmines for people to stand on so they can then be the victim, right? And you can never know exactly what's in someone's heart. So this is, this is tricky business. But like I, I'm not sure if you followed it in Illinois in the last couple days where these teenage girls, these middle school girls, objected to a biological male in their locker room at school. They didn't want to change in front of him, right? And he

still has male genitalian, all that. This person identifies as a female, so is in the girls' locker room. And they went to the school officials and said, we are not comfortable with this. And they got in trouble with the school officials for complaining about it. And in fact, the allegation from the parents is these school officials, all, you know, sort of woke women, marched the girls into the locker room and stood there and basically tried to force them to change in front of this biological male, which to me is, this is psychotic. So there was a school board meeting about this and one of the parents got up to say this happened to my daughter this is inexcusable and a bunch of trans activists showed up packed the room many of them wearing COVID masks in 2025 but there they

were and their ringleader was this trans activist person who surprise has a trans kid apparently so it's transparent who now has a young kid who allegedly is trans and this person introduces I don't even know what pronoun. The pronoun that they announced was they, he. And then said, like, if someone has an issue with changing in front of a trans person, they should be given a private space. I'm like, no, the private space is the girl's locker room. I think they've gotten the accommodation backwards here.

Send the trans biological boy identifying as a girl somewhere else to change. don't upset the apple cart for every girl by violating the privacy and sanctity of a girl's locker room. But it was such an agenda-driven speech that this person gave. When that individual announced these, to me, totally incoherent pronouns, they, him, or they, he, that is something that I don't really respect. That, to me, feels like trolling. Whereas someone that we know like Caitlin Jenner or I have another friend. I feel like it comes from an honest place, even if it does not comport with what I actually believe is reality or setting aside the morality of it, I'm willing to give more grace and space and respect to those preferences of that person that I am to someone

who I feel like is trying to do something almost to make a point and to manipulate society rather than just wanting to live their life as they identify, which is, again, like multiple subjective layers with snap judgments that need to be made. So you could make the argument that yours is more consistent, which I get. I also just think that like this all arose from that blow up in Congress where a Republican was referring to the trans woman who's a Delaware representative went out of his way to call that person Mr. So-and-so. And I just thought that was gratuitous and unkind and not necessary and does not advance the ball.

And his argument was, look, it's objective reality. I don't have to play a role in this person's fantasy. I guess I get it to some extent. I just feel like you come off looking like the bigger a hole. And I don't think that with a lot of bigger fish to fry, even in the realm of this culture war, I'm just not sure that's a smart or nice way to go about. it you know i do like this conversation because i think it's navigating something even if we have different ways to have approaching it navigating something that's fluid and real in society and i feel

like we've been robbed i just feel like we've been robbed of real thought forget forget even conversation so i watch white lotus and it's not very good i don't know if you watch white lotus on hbo it's okay um but there's a there's a scene going around right now from the most recent episode, and it's Walter Goggins and Sam Rockwell, and they're sitting at this dinner table, and Sam Rockwell is telling us story, it's awesome acting, by the way, about sort of his path of traveling, like, of, am I an Asian woman? And then how that manifests into, like, his sexual behavior and what he started doing. It's just, it's a really interesting scene. You know what people were saying this morning, guy, which I found fascinating, they were saying,

this would have never happened like this scene because what the picture he paints is that he doesn't have a sense of self and he's pursuing fetishes to try to answer something spiritually within himself and then he ultimately gets to Buddhism like he talks about now I'm a Buddhist and so anyway it's kind of interesting but the point people are making is like two or three years ago guy that scene would never have been greenlit because the only available and appropriate conversation to have is this is my identity period right and that is unquestionable um and i just think there's so much more to all of this like we don't have like i don't think we have real that many real in-depth conversations about what is gender dysphoria how do you treat gender dysphoria you know how

is it diagnosable how much of this is fetishism and i think it's different by the way how much of it is fad like i think it's there's no there's no holistic answer by the way i think with young women it's large young women who are becoming boys it is largely fad driven not all but largely and then you go well what are the mental health issues when it is mental health isn't there more things underneath and you're just using this as a top line thing and then how much is fetish and like men doing a fetish thing that just kind of spins and keeps going and get and then and you can't explore that you can't think about that you can't talk about that because it's identity and therefore any depth is bigotry any depth of exploration becomes bigotry and i don't know i just feel like these conversations

are so a they're interesting and b um they're important and see fascinating that all of a sudden mainstream pop culture is having that kind of having that conversation yeah and one thing i'll also mention because i i had a long tweet about all of this which was a jumping off point for our conversation on my show. We're doing like inception of how this conversation happened. It was someone else's tweet that turned into my tweet that turned into my show that turned into your show. But it's an ongoing conversation with Guy and Will. But one of the things that I said in in my tweet about it was, and this is often in more hushed tones within the gay community, there is a sense among, it's a very polarizing issue, some of the trans-related stuff. Because we're told

by especially the activist class, that it's this long alphabet soup acronym, LGBTQIA plus plus, like I can't keep track of what half of this stuff even means. And to be a good member of that community in good standing, who's accepted as like, you know, solid, you've got to go with whatever the latest bleeding edge madness is from a particular group of left-wing activists. And what you'll hear among right-leaning gays and also sort of whispered among others as well in private conversation is there's a big difference between G and T, for example, within this realm. I understand that we're under this umbrella of sexual and gender minority, but same-sex attraction is not even really close to thinking that you are born in.

to the incorrect body and in fact your gender is something other than your biological sex. Right. Those are very different things. In fact, there's a line of thinking among some gays that it's actually homophobic to be pushing trans stuff so hard because you might just be taking gay or lesbian people, especially minors and telling them, oh, these are some of your impulses. You must actually be a trans person so your attractions are heterosexual because you are the opposite gender. So there's like, there's an element of alleged homophobia there that some people get worked up about. I just don't, but I'm not saying that, you know, I don't have empathy for or kindness in my heart toward trans people. I just don't consider myself in a category with them

because to me it is categorically completely different than being gay. The one piece of it that then gets complicated is for a long period of time, society and even, you know, medical associations and all of that treated gay people like we were you know mentally ill in all of these things and so there there's some i think solidarity there based on the history but based on what's happening in between your ears and based on the physiology of it they are very different categories and i think a lot of just speaking of people that i talk to all the time a lot of gay people are like hey uh count me out of whatever the most extreme new trans agenda thing is because because there's an argument to be made in public opinion, and you're seeing it in some polling,

as the excesses have gotten crazier and crazier and more alienating to people across the spectrum, it is actually starting to erode public support for things like gay merit. We're like, well, hang on, we spent a lot of time saying, if we can get married, that's all we want, it's not going to affect your life. Then you had other people saying, nope, that's a slippery slope. And the next thing you know, fill in the blank, and now here we are, and we've got like, were transing kids in the school without their current knowledge? It's like, oh, you know, that happened really fast.

And maybe the slope was pretty slippery. And some people might be working their way back to a different starting point and saying maybe we should, maybe we should rethink all of this, which is a source of resentment and concern among some people in the LGBT whatever alphabet, given the unique challenges. around some of these T questions, for lack of a better term. Right. All right. Last thing, you did this twice, maybe three times.

And I think we're actually past this cultural moment, but I can't help it because I'm curious. I think it's funny and interesting. You used a phrase, okay? You said gays. You didn't say gay people. You said gay people once, but at least twice you said gays. Okay?

You said the gays. So I'm just curious. Like, are you allowed to say that? Yes. am I allowed to say that? I mean, you're allowed to say whatever you want. It's a free country. I think, I think...

Hold on, hold on, before you answer. You know something similar? Like, it's not on its face offensive, right? Here's the parallel. Okay, do you say Jews, or do you always say Jewish people? I'll say both. and I'm not Jewish. Right, because the word Jews is not derogatory

in any way, shape, or form. It's not, and it's, right, grammatically correct, actually. But every time you do, I can feel, if I do, other people, you can feel the flinch. You can feel it, like, because I guess it's softer grammatically to say Jewish people, and, like, it's similar.

You said gay people once and gays twice, so do I have to say gay people every time? Is it a record scratch if I say gays? By the way, while we're at it, like Jesse Waters says, does he say the blacks? I think he says the blacks, Jesse does. And I'm always like, do we say? Is that, can we say blacks? I would not personally say the blacks.

And by the way, I think the the, the actually might be part of it, right? The Jews, the gays, the blacks. It just seems like a little bit more of an edge to it for whatever reason. And I think part of the- Why? I don't know. maybe it's just the way it's been used maybe the way it's been used in hate in the past there's some connotation there look when when i'm talking about the gays it's often a like i'm part of the group right

b it's kind of done somewhat ingest like oh god here the gays go again and it's sort of like a like self-deprecating or poking fun at the in-group thing so it might be a little different if you do it versus me. But I think a lot of it has to do with what's the context in what you're saying it. Is there some sort of malice attached within the context? Are you saying it that way for the purpose of signaling disapproval? A lot of messy human communication. It's messy.

It comes back to these subjective, thorny, confusing judgments that that's where we started in terms of like how I try to do the pronoun stuff. A lot of it is just like kind of. what like the vibe the vibe of what's happening and then how it's used within that which is not a perfect rule i'm not giving a a logical rule i'm giving a vibe guidance which is not helpful but i think it's somewhat that makes sense i need a vibe flowchart uh by the way we all do to walk through life we just have to hey man uh read the room you know that's that's basically That's what we're asking you'll do.

Hey, man. And I feel like in the last one I'll make it, you should, it's just like, I think we'd be better off as a society if we gave each other a little bit more space and grace to navigate the weirdness without jumping down people's throats. Like if you had, if you had just casually thrown in the gaze, it probably wouldn't have even pinged in my head as something weird. But if someone then texted me being like, was that weird when Will Kane was talking about the gaze, given that he's straight, I would be like, ah, maybe a little weird, but like,

he like he's a nice guy he doesn't mean any harm by it like let it go i think there should be a little more of that which is why i love the way katelyn jenner talks about these issues because katelyn is all about like i'm not going to get offended let's just try to talk nicely to each other i i subscribe to that to the greatest extent possible although i recognize there are limits to a subjective framework all right this was a nice conversation i really enjoyed this Guy Benson, the Guy Benson show, 3 to 6, Fox News Radio, but also you can get it on Spotify, Apple, at Fox News Podcasts as well. All right, Guy, awesome.

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on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Late last week, I sat down with comedian Andrew Shultz. He's got a new special out on Netflix entitled Life. It focuses a lot on he and his wife's attempts to have a baby using IVF. He gets very personal. and it's also really graphic but he came in awesome guy

awesome guy genuine authentic didn't just do an obligatory handshake with every cameraman and producer in the room but actually interacted with them and just wanted to have a real conversation so we've broken it up into three parts we're going to play two of them for you today

and one tomorrow so we wanted to get started today with part one of my conversation with Andrew Schultz First of all, congratulations on multiple levels, right? Thank you so much. Congratulations on the special. Congratulations on the baby.

Thank you. Thank you. What? Are you a dad? I am. I got two. Oh, my God. How old?

Now, 17 and 13. Holy, holy. How old are you? I'm 49. God, you look incredible. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. It's the Cowboys.

Have we just started? Do they know about our Cowboy with conversation? If they are not recording us, I will be upset. Okay, fair enough. Okay. Wow. you look great. So you're 40, you're 50, almost 50 years old. I'm going to have you in boots before you leave. Oh, I would, I'm here. This is like an urban version of a cowboy boot. But that's

not even a cowboy boot, right? Because it's not like pointy at the front. No, it is 100%. You got different toes, different heels. Got it. Got it. It is a fun. It's a nice way for guys to flex, right? There's a lot of femininity in the cowboy boot. It's like, here we go. This is going to be. I'm just saying it's, you guys talk about like women talk about purses. It's like it's made out of ostrich. 100%. You know? Look, it's my lizard boots. You know, it's like, I understand like, within your culture, it's like, there's a lot of bravado. But, like, New Yorkers hear about it. We're like, wait.

Men shouldn't talk about their shoes. No, we love sneakers. We love talking about sneakers. We get it. We're on the same page. You know, I get a new pair of sneakers. What I like about the cowboy boot is that, like, there's more longevity in it. Like, if I scuff my sneakers, there's no value.

But, like, you, like, really wearing the boot. I have my dad's boots. I inherited my dad's boots. No way. Yeah. And my sons will get these boots. These are not disposable. I love this.

Yeah, right? I love this. We need to do that more like hand, you know, passing down things. That's something I think that, like, are we already in on America? Let's do it. That's something I think that we're like maybe missing out a little bit on is like, you know, there's certain places where like, all right, your dad was a cobbler and you're a cobbler. And there was like honor and purpose in that.

And I feel like as much as I'm like a big dreamer and I want to go out and do these like crazy things, maybe not everybody has like this really specific nuanced dream, you know. and then maybe they feel like oh man, am I a loser because I don't want to go out and be a journalist or I don't want to go out and be an artist or whatever but there used to be this purpose in this legacy of what they

provided for the community so maybe we could reward that a little bit more yeah I think there's two things that you're talking about there's honor in so many different types of jobs and we have because look and let's not let's be real you're a famous successful comedian and you scroll across our phone all the time

so of course that becomes asked inspirational for everyone that's scrolling their phone all day long. But the dad who's a cobbler has just as much honor. That's, I agree with you. I'm like, how do we like reinstill that? How do we not make it seem like, oh, you just did whatever your dad was doing? Because, and then there's cultures where it's like too rigid, like Japan, it's too rigid. Like there was this one family that owned the same hotel since the year 703. There was probably a lot of like Japanese dudes during that time. They're like maybe wanted to be a comedian. They're like, I got to open a hotel. I got a, this. This is what we do. This is our job. So maybe that's too rigid. And maybe we're the other way. And maybe there's this middle ground where, like, if you want to continue the legacy of your family, that's awesome.

That's great. We really love that. Did you ever watch the show or read the book, Shogun? No, but Rogan talks about it all the time. It's an awesome show. Okay. It shows the clash of Western civilization. This is going to be explorers from Europe in like the 14 or 1500s when they first encounter

Japan. Yeah. And you encounter this society where you honor freedom. First of all, you're coming. You're honoring freedom. you're honoring individual aspiration and ambition. Yes. And now you encounter the society that does not value those things.

They value family and honor and respect. And you walk away from that going, I'm not sure which society has put their values the highest. Which one is the better version of a civilization? Yeah, I think it's a mixture of it too. You need a little bit of, you need a little bit of freedom. Actually, you need a lot. What do you mean?

What are we talking about? Ours is way better. We just need a little bit of the Japanese stuff. Have you been to Japan? Never. That's culture shock. Japan's cool. They're the masters at refining everything.

Like they've done, they've figured out their culture, they're done with that, so now they're just like perfect everyone else's cultures. Best pizza you ever have isn't in Tokyo. Well, I also like their pride in their own culture. Oh, dude, there's so much pride. If I ever see a Japanese person doing something out in public, before I even see them doing it, I know it's the best thing I've ever seen. Because like, they would never like bring, you know how like everybody in America turns 30 and they're like, I'll be a DJ. We just, thanks, brother. We have no shame at all, you know?

We're just like, ah, cry it, you know? Whereas, like, for a Japanese person to, like, go and fail in front of everybody and bring shame on their family. This right here. Okay? What is that called? Harikari. Sudoku? Sapuku.

Sapuku. Yeah. Nice. Will, did you think we would be here five minutes into the interview? This is what I wanted. I just want to see where it goes. By the way, one of the things I'm most impressed with you about is when I see it. your stand-up? And I don't know how you do this. So there's a lot of different smart

stand-ups. Okay. I think Chappelle is incredibly. Forget his comedy. This is a smart human name. Clearly a smart guy. Yeah. So are you. Okay. I don't give gratuitous compliments. I'm telling you. And here's one of the most obvious indications of your intelligence. And I don't know how you do this, though. Okay. You do a show in the Middle East. Yeah. You do a show in Asia. Yeah. And you instantly, not instantly, I'm sure it takes a lot of work. You get the inside jokes of that culture in that community and Andrew literally and not that I've consumed every bit of stand-up comedy there is I don't see anybody else doing that yeah and you're doing it from an outside perspective yeah how well I just I ask questions I'm just curious so like you know if

you ask people things about like where they're from or something that they really you know take pride in they'll tell you everything you know like now I can't you know when I go down south and I see a guy in Lucases I'll ask him if he got him from his dad you know and uh so there's Just like, or if I see a guy with Lucchasey's and they're like two, like folded at the front, there's like a big crease and you'd be like, oh, you couldn't fill your dad's boots, huh? Right? Like, so it's like, I'm just constantly absorbing information and like is like idiosyncratic as it possibly can be. But you're from New York.

Yeah. So you have a show in Dubai. And granted, living in New York, you get exposure. Abu Dhabi. Yeah, okay. So. So. But you live in New York, so you have exposure to a lot of different cultures here.

Yes. Yes. But that doesn't give you insight into the minutia of that culture. No. So are you going months ahead? No, no, no, no. And hanging out, weeks ahead. How do you...

Sometimes it's, like, the day of. And that's kind of, like, fun and, you know, exciting, too, because you're going on stage and you're like, all right, the first 10 minutes, like, I've never tried before. Let's see how this goes, you know, and... But you're writing an act the day of? Well, I have my act, which is, like, the hour. And then the opening, sometimes I'll do, like, five, ten minutes just, like, on them.

And the more foreign the place, like, kind of the more interesting it is. Because I get to make these little observations, and what I've realized about people is that there's this idea that people don't want to be made fun of or it's bullying or punching down or it's actually not the case they do want to be made fun of but for like really specific things about their culture they don't want like the hacky joke like in Indian accent with the guy going like this or whatever that they're like I've seen seen that a million times but they do want like a really specific nuanced observation about their culture and then they feel like seen represented and they're stoked on that

They love that. And, I mean, the evidence for that is, like, these people come, I get to do an arena in Abu Dhabi. Where's it failed, by the way? You got there that day. You made some insights. Oh, God. I've had some bomb, man. It was, I mean, like, yeah, you just bomb all the time. I mean, there's also just, like, fun things in comedy. Like, sometimes you try to localize things that, uh, the first of all, I'm going to tell a story about a friend. I don't want to make it seem like I haven't failed in every single place, like, all the time it happens. But this is just the funniest story that's coming to mind. And sometimes you try to localize material because you're like bringing the people into your show. My buddy, my buddy Mark Gagnon, who opens for me, hilarious comedian. He had this great joke about like Uber and about like the Uber driver, like trying to talk to you and stuff like that. I don't want to give away his joke. But we're in Vancouver and he opens up with the joke.

And he's like, man, we were taking the Uber here and blah, blah, blah. And the audience doesn't react at all. And it's because Mark doesn't know that Uber's banned in Vancouver. Okay. There's no way you could take an Uber to the show. Oh, no. Because it's illegal, right? Unless you Uber from Seattle to take Uber.

So he's doing like a three-minute bit, and he's like, man, this is tanking here. Like, what's going on with Uber? So there's a perfect example, like, you got to make sure you get your facts straight or else you're saying a joke to 10,000 people. And they're like, I don't know what this guy got this. There is part one of my interview with Andrew Schultz. Let's take a quick break. In just a moment, we'll be back on the Will Cain Show.

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Somebody knows. Real cases. Real people. Listen and follow now at Foxcrucime.com. Welcome back to The Will Cain Show. Let's bring the boys in New York for just a moment and talk about this before we get to part two. We're in, I think we're going to talk a little bit more about American pride. Andrew's really smart. I like, there's just a style of comedy.

My wife listens to Dax Shepherd podcast, and Andrew is the most recent guest on Dax. and they own his political leanings in that conversation. Like he's openly at this point, honest about leaning to the right. And I just think that informs so much, and it's a refreshing form of comedy for somebody to come from that perspective where you can say stuff like, and he's thinking out loud, there's honor and your father being a cobbler. There's honor in following your father's footsteps. There's honor in so many jobs that have nothing to do with being a DJ or a famous comedian.

And I think you only get there a little bit seeing the world through those eyes, two a days. Yeah, it's true. I mean, a lot of guys, they say a lot of comedians, you know, experienced some sort of trauma. I also think you made a comment about Chappelle and Schultz being smart comedians. And I think that is a newer thing where people want to see smart comedy instead of just, you know, toilet humor, tons of swearing. You know, there is that stuff. But being smart about the jokes and that kind of thing. has been kind of a newer experience in the comedy world.

And I think people love it because it's, you know, opens Europe. And you're not just talking about comedy. You're talking about actual issues and, you know, other things. Well, I'd say we'd also in a moment where comedians to the right are the most popular. I named three who are the hottest, right? Gillis, Schultz, and Bargazzi. I have no idea. Nate's political leanings.

but he's clean which kind of suggests he might at least in some ways lean to the right Shane Gillis clearly I think does that doesn't make any of these guys Republicans necessarily it doesn't even make them conservative

but he owns it Andrew Schultz and they all do observational comedy that's what's smart like watching people like he's talking about watching human interaction right and all the little like what I was just talking with Guy Benson about

all that mess stuff that we're all going through in the world thinking through things and the problem with the left is they stopped doing that it started becoming like unquestioning this is the right way to talk this is the right way to think and these guys are leaning into is it can we say gays or can we do we have to say gay people right like that's a bit you could hear from from Andrew Schultz. Well, I think the left cuffed them a little bit in terms of, you know, what they can say for a while, and they're tired of it. I mean, it stopped, it stopped probably bits they wanted to say or right that they couldn't do for a long time, starting with different movements. So I think they see it as lame. And so you're right, they're not exactly conservative or Republican, but they just don't like the BS that the left is allowing to happen and they don't, you know, relate to that at all in their way. Right. Okay.

I think at least later on in the conversation, which we may play tomorrow here on the Will Cane show. He talks more. He ties that cobbler thing and we start talking in depth about American pride. But we talked about his rise, him being one of those top three guys, like how that's changed his life, how he did so in part two of my conversation with Andrew Schultz. You've blown up. I don't, and I was just talking like, when did this happen for you?

But it feels to me like it's within the last. five years? Yeah, probably. Your life's professionally. Big time. Your life has changed the last five years. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's like, it's definitely changed in the last five years for sure. But you go through these like weird things. Like I got success kind of early on MTV and I was doing all these shows on MTV. Never really got any attention from like the stand-up world, but I was always doing stand-up at the time. And then, and that was at a time where like as a stand-up, you needed to get success at something else you didn't care about to do stand-up. Like all these stand-ups didn't want to act, but like the idea was,

all right, if I act, I get to do stand-up, right? So I do stand-up. I would come and do these shows here. I would do like Red Eye here. Oh, yeah, all the time. Like, Bill Schultz actually is my, like, second cousin. Really? How random is that?

Yeah. I used to do Red Eye. It was one of my first, that was one of my first entries into Fox. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So an actual family member. And, like, we connected when I was going to do. Red Eye once. And he was like, I think that we're related, and I was like, how?

And I was like, I'm your, my dad is your dad's cousin. Really? How crazy is that? Yeah. So, yeah, so I would just do these, and then like that, all that kind of stuff dried up, and I was doing the podcast with Charlemagne, which, thank you Fox News, whoever you assigned

to listen to that every single week. I see you guys post that all over the internet. We are the, we are the number one political analyst show in America. We are. This is We are a very important show. I think it's because you're doing something really good with Charlemagne. I agree with you.

Well, I'm sure you do. Anytime you compliment me, I agree with you. I'm sure you do. No, but here's why. A, we so rarely get to see people who have different points of view, but still like each other and our friends. And B, you're both thoughtful. Even though Charlemagne's giving me donkey the day at least once, maybe twice.

No. Oh, for what? What'd you do? Oh, I was on ESPN defending. No, I wasn't even defending. They had a big debate during our big race, you know, we're going to re-examine everything in America a period of time. And they tore down the statue of Kate Smith in front of the Philadelphia Flyers where they play because she sang some wonderful version of God bless America. They made a statue.

But in the 20s and 30s, she also sang some racist song. Oh, wow. Which, by the way, I'm sure she said, I want to do that song. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A woman was not getting to pick her songs in the 20s and 30s. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, hey, this doesn't solve anything to tear down her statue. Yeah.

And you're diminishing her life into this one thing. Yeah. And for that, of course, everybody on set, Stephen A, they were all mad at me. Yeah. And Charlemagne gave me donkey the day. Donkey the day. Yeah. Huh, interesting.

I mean, I got to see how racist the songs were and how much they were on there. They were very racist. They were really bad. Oh, boy, now I kind of want to listen. Oh, man. But, I mean, less women statues, right? How many do we need? You know what I mean?

We got the statue of Liberty done. You got the one. You got the big one. The first thing you see when you come to America. You see this. broad holding a light. You're like, she's got to be exhausted. Why? Who's that? It's Paul Revere. That's what most people think when they come to America. Did you know that? What? They thought it was Paul Revere. The Statue of Liberty? They thought the Statue of Liberty was Paul. There was one if by

C. Uh-huh. Do it. You can do it. What is it? What is by C? It's one by land, two by C. I mean, it's going to be C. They're coming from England. Why did they even have a way of demarking if they're coming from land. Did they come through Canada? There's no way they're marching down through Canada. And Trump has been thinking about it ever since. It's why it wants Canada back. We might be to take it back. How much fun is the idea of taking land

again? You know what I mean? Real fun. It is kind of fun. Who doesn't want Greenland? Everybody. Everybody. No, no. We shouldn't take land. You know what I mean? Where's my camera? I think, but here's the thing. Do we know what the people, do we know what the Greenland landers think? I mean, what an upgrade. There's 50,000 of them. Yeah. I mean, even if they don't

think, even if they, even if they don't want it, that's a big super PAC ad blitz and we're good. I think that we could convince them. It's hard to mind. Hearts and minds. Just show Miami in December. Right. Right. When they're freezing a half in a tuktuke or whatever in Greenland, just like this is what it looks like in Miami in December. And then you're on board. What do they got over there? They got minerals. Is that the idea? That's what they say. They got a lot of land. Most of it covered in ice. Yeah, but we don't want the land. We're not going to do anything over there.

Back to your point. I like more land. Oh, got it. I kind of like conquering, I think. There's only 50,000. That's a good point. Why doesn't Canada do that? Why doesn't Canada just take over a Caribbean island?

What is Canada ever taken over? Hmm. Let me think about that. Nothing, huh? Damn. This is a pre-taped, so I don't care long you take. But did they have a long? But did they, did they, they haven't taken over anything?

I don't, Canada has never been. Is this how people are talking in Russia right now and like, let's take Ukraine? Yeah. And are they having like a fun combo on like a new show? Well, I'm sure that's how Canadians feel about this conversation. I wonder if they take us really serious. They must take us serious, right? The Canadians?

Or just, and the whole world when we're having these conversations. Because I have to take Donald Trump seriously. That's the thing. And I don't have, well, okay, I believe this is the difference between the left and the right. Yeah. The right takes Donald Trump seriously, but not literally. Yes. The left takes Donald Trump literally, but not seriously.

Interesting. Ooh, that's good. It's not mine. Oh, who said that one? I don't know. Who said that? Selina Zito. Send her back to where she's, no.

Guys, take me literally, not serious. Which one would it be? Seriously, not literally. It's, by the way, how you consume comedy. Yes. You know, I'll take what you say. literally. But there is some seriousness to what you have to say. Yeah, there's like an emotional truth. Like the best example of that is like, uh, take my wife, please. You know, that old like

Borchbel joke? No. It's like a one-liner. It's like, you know, take my wife, please. And it's this idea like, yeah, there's going to be moments where your wife's annoying you and you're like, okay, well, somebody wants to take her, that's fine. Do you want your wife to leave? No. You love your wife. You love your family. You want everything about it. There's a moment where you have this emotional reaction. Someone cuts you off in traffic and you're like, Like, I hope that car flips over. And then 10 seconds later, you're like, oh, my God, that would be horrible if that car flipped over, you know? So it's like, yeah, comedy is this knee-jerk emotional reaction to thing.

And then 10 seconds later, we've become a regular human being again. So don't take me too seriously. Okay, but back to you in Charlemagne. Yes. So you represent a thoughtfulness, a differing point of view. Good faith conversations. I think that's... And honest.

Yeah, it's like, I think a lot of content now is like, there's like reaction channels. Everything is like reaction. and then dunking setups, right? And it's like, we've been friends for over a decade, like very close. So neither of us wants to, like, dunk on one another to get some social media followers. So we have these good faith arguments as friends do, which is what people do at the bar.

Like, that's what actually happens when you go out. Your friends have different opinions, and it's not as tribal. You disagree. It could be about sports, about politics, about culture, but whatever it is. And yet to me, I think it's like an actual, I would never admit this, even though I'm going to admit it. But I think it's kind of an important show because we have different viewpoints on the current administration. I think probably I'm more optimistic and he's more pessimistic, but we have the same goal for America.

There's Andrew Schultz, part two. Part three will air tomorrow right here on The Will Kane Show. I really liked what he had to say about dunking and reaction. That is the kind of what media has become. whether or not your scrolling X or watching cable television, it is dunking and reacting. And it leaves so much empty space for not just self-reverential thoughtfulness,

not even deep dive, not even just investigation, but real and fun and maybe even funny. And I just think there's wide open green space, blue sky right there. Fellas, I did get a couple of notes. Those chairs that we're sitting in, many people have told me they're not, they're not flattering. That the way I was sitting for a good portion of that interview was very feminine. It's because my leg crossed.

You're too tall? Yeah, you're too tall. Here, you want to see a still shot of it real quick? Hold on. One second. Oh, no. Yes. Okay.

Yeah. You happen to just have this? Yeah, yeah. Just. Yeah, so right there. though that's like on my way to crossing my legs I think um and he's got his legs crossed people point out when your butt is below your knees it's really hard to sit that's the thing in a flattering manner yeah go ahead maybe he seemed to have a hot take or something you have a

say again you know like sometimes you like you sit and like you know guys can really spread out when you cross your legs like you have your foot over your your knee it's called man spreading but then yeah that's good but then like sometimes you know you have guys to get older it's like i don't think their their hamstrings are stretched out or something because they they kind of have their knee over their other knee you know it's a little oh well i know what you're talking about yeah when i was younger i think i do have tied hamstrings i know what you're talking about when i was younger i did the ankle on the knee thing right and that's that is a thing to do but as i've gotten older i have started to go over and now i don't have knee on knee that shultz had knee on knee

he had full on lady cross you know and i'd rarely do that but i will do calf on knee that's what i was doing so you see what i'm saying that's between the ankle and the uh and the knee just put calf on knee and i don't know it's it's also you know what nothing men do instead of so you're crossing your legs go knee on knee, instead of letting the elevated leg drape down around your other leg, point it out front. Do you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. So you've got it resting out so it's like pointing away from you. Not a circulation issue. I don't know if any of this Well, Suzanne and the... Do you guys cross your legs when you sit? A little bit. But the wide way, like the regular way, as a man should. My right side is tighter than my own.

Suzanne in the chat here is saying, as Will has makeup on his desk, he's talking about this. To your I don't have makeup on my desk at the moment, but I have it on my face. What is that right there? In front of your phone. This? No, to the right of that. You know. I know what that is. To the right? This?

Yeah. Wait. Yeah. Oh, I'm about to man you up here. This is six cans sent to me by Lucy nicotine pouches. Not sponsoring the show yet, but we're discussing it. I just got it in the mail. A whole sleeve here of different flavors. And this, dare you call it makeup, is sand from Omaha Beach. Wow.

I feel horrible now. Suzanne, it's all your fault if you're watching. Suzanne. Oh, now I feel bad. You called sand. Now I feel bad. called Sand from Omaha Beach. I'm going to walk away.

You guys finish the rest of the show. See you later. Remember they're all wearing wigs of packing on D-Day? Yeah. I'm just going to leave that there. I don't even think I have to comment. Sand from Omaha Beach. Yeah.

That's going to do it for us today here on the Will Kane Show. We'll see you again tomorrow. Same Time, Sunplace. Third installment of our conversation with Andrew Schultz plus much, much more, maybe even the revelations from the files of JFK. Tomorrow on the Will Kane Show. Listen ad free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcasts, and Amazon Prime members, you can listen to this show, ad free on the Amazon music app free on the Amazon music app.

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