Will Cain Country - Where Is Aaron Rodgers Going? What's Going On With The Cowboys?

Episode Date: March 14, 2025

On this edition of The Will Cain Show’s Friday sports episode, Will sits down with Senior NFL Writer at Outkick, Armando Salguero to discuss the latest in NFL Free Agency, from the biggest win...ners and losers and Aaron Rodgers likely future home to what on earth is going on with The Dallas Cowboys. Plus, Will & The Crew gets ready for March Madness. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Long-bendy Twizzlers candy keeps the fun going. March Madness, an NFL free agency. It's the Will Kane show normally streaming live every Monday through Thursday at 12 o'clock Eastern time at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel. and the Fox News Facebook page. Always available for a subscription at Apple or on Spotify, as you know. Because this Friday edition of Canaan Sports brought to you on Apple and on Spotify. Today we have Armando Salgaro, senior NFL writer at Outkick.com,
Starting point is 00:00:45 to talk about NFL free agency. Where will Aaron Rogers end up? What is wrong with the new soap opera in Dallas? What is wrong with the Dallas Cowboys? But let me start, though, with a little bit of March Madness. March Madness tips off next Thursday. We've got conference tournaments going on right now. And we're headed for a historic moment. A historic moment courtesy, it looks like, of the SEC. Texas Longhorns are the team to deliver this historic moment, perhaps.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Last night they beat the Texas A&M Aggies in the quarterfinals of the SEC tournament. What that means is Texas is Texas is. is putting itself in a position to make the NCAA tournament. They have, I believe, seven quad one wins. They're not a very good team, by the way. They're 19 and 14, I think. But seven of their victories are quad one. And you know that's how the NCAA tournament selection committee does it now.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Quad one means, have you beat anybody good? And they've beaten seven good teams. And now they've upset Vanderbilt, and they've upset the Aggies in the SEC tournament. Now, this is the question is, or are they already in? Now, they play Tennessee in the semifinals. They may need to beat Tennessee. But the suspicion is, as of this moment, Texas is in,
Starting point is 00:02:10 and that makes it 14 SEC teams in the NCAA tournament, which blows away the record. The record is 11. I think by the Big East? Is it the Big East or Big Ten? Big East has given us 11 in the past. now somebody could sneak up some small conference upsets their conference champion this weekend you know in the mountain west or in the west coast conference although i don't think
Starting point is 00:02:39 Gonzaga is going to lose uh and then you have to put a Gonzaga in you know that kind of thing that could rob Texas of that sea and the you'd still have a record though SEC basketball conference by the next time that we have a sports podcast next Friday we'll already be a day or two into the NCAA tournament. So what we'll have to do is next week on the Monday through Thursday show. We have to figure out a way to watch this and do this together.
Starting point is 00:03:05 You guys know what I used to do on ESPN, right? What's that? Eating challenges. Oh, I don't know about that, actually. Oh, yeah. So the show was 3 to 6, which meant we had games on Thursday and Friday while we aired.
Starting point is 00:03:21 So how did we do the tournament? So what we all did is you went and bought something nasty to eat. whatever it was. Now, it had to be edible. It couldn't be, you know, but it's just bad. Do it like cat food? No, we never went to cat food.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Yeah. I'll give you some examples. But what it was is we then ranked which was the worst. And so we would draw teams out of a hat that were playing during our window. And if you got like on one seed, if it was a one verse 16, then if the one lost, you're eating something horrific. If the 16 lost, you got the less bad thing. So the kind of things we had to eat, I remember I had to do a spoonful of wasabi, just a full-on take-that'll ruin your day. It was rough.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Yeah. That was more rough than I thought it would be. We had gefelta fish, which I've never had, and it's jarred and in brine. I think there was some mayo stuff in there. Like you had to get like a big heaping thing of mayo and just, like, eat it like an ice cream. Raw eggs ever? No, no, we didn't do raw eggs. I went to Chinatown one year
Starting point is 00:04:27 because they've got the little shops down there and you have no idea what that food is. Nope. No idea. Brought that in, you had to eat that. You could have a bad weekend after that. Yeah. And guys have weird things that they're afraid to eat.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Like, you never know what's going to rub somebody the wrong way. So should we do it? I'm in. We had to do that in college. I'm in. If you're okay with puking sounds over here, I'm in. Okay. We've got to give.
Starting point is 00:04:55 that some thought this weekend and early next week, like how we, logistically how we do this. Because our show is not, will there be games live? It'll just start. Yeah. On Thursday. We'll have one or two games live that day. Exactly. Only if the calories are countable. Oh, shut it. Well, so maybe we don't do it with just the games that are live during our show. We're going to figure this out logistically. But we should do something fun for the tournament. And we should all write down what our worst food we think would be. Well, no one's going to be honest about that. I would. What is your worst food?
Starting point is 00:05:29 I'll have to think about it. Yeah, I don't know what mine is. But I think like a good feld to fish. anchovies maybe from the can would be pretty bad for me. One time I had anchovies in Italy, amazing. Different. Amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:42 All right, we're going to figure it out. That'll be fun to do. But today, I'll say what's fun is his NFL free agency's kicked off. Guys are flying around, going to different teams. Aaron Rogers, though, still looking for a dance card. So we brought in Armando Salgaro of Outkick.com to talk about. about all the movement in the NFL. Hey, I'm Trey Gowdy host of the Trey Gowdy podcast.
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Starting point is 00:06:28 Senior NFL rider at Outkick.com, Armando, Salgaro. Armando, what's up? Big time, NFL free agency. Yes, it's a huge time in the NFL. Look, you're wearing a jacket. You're all official. I know. I'm like wearing just a shirt and I feel dressed down, but here we go.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I'm in New York this week. I'm walking around doing TV hits and fancy meetings. so I had to dress it up, but you're dressed perfectly. I'm overdressed. Let's talk about free agency. Let's talk about a few stories that I think are the most interesting. Let's start with Aaron Rogers. I want the complete Darth Vader arc. I want this thing to go full villain. I want him to be with the Minnesota Vikings. Is there any chance he ends up? Where is Aaron Rogers headed? Right. So the full villain is on display right now. And what I mean by that is the Pittsburgh Steelers have a time and a timing for getting him signed,
Starting point is 00:07:32 and that's yesterday. The Cleveland Browns, they're not interested. The Minnesota Vikings are mulling, and they are interested to a degree. The thing is Aaron Rogers is going to do Aaron Rogers, and he is going to walk on beaches in Southern California, think about it, consider it, maybe at. had a little thinking about retirement in there as well, and eventually he'll come to a decision whenever he wants, not when the Steelers want, not when the New York Giants want, not when the Minnesota Vikings want. And that, to me, is villainy at its max. You're controlling, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:17 billion-dollar industries, billion-dollar teams on your timing. But how high is the demand for Aaron Rogers. You know, if he has that control, that presumes that these teams really, really want him. And the only one I can hear you saying that really wants him is the Steelers. The others may, may not want him. And by the way, the reason I want him to be a Viking, and I think that's the Villanar, because I want him to follow the Brett Farv path. Now, I'm not a Packer fan, but this is about that. Like, Brett Farv goes from, we'll put the Falcons aside where he started his career, but he goes from the Packers to the Jets to the Vikings. And he did it to get back at Packers Management. I mean, that's what most people say. That's why he went to the Vikings, their rival. I could see Rogers follow. At one time, I bet it would have turned Aaron Rogers off to, quote unquote, follow the Brett Favre path. I think he's probably past that. He'd love to troll the path.
Starting point is 00:09:07 He'd love to be that guy. And so that's why I'm kind of rooting for it to be the Vikings. And moreover, if you'll remember, Brett Fav kind of was a bust with the Jets, similar to what Aaron Rogers was. So if he goes to the Vikings, absolutely, it's 100% the same path as Brett Farr. And he has the opportunity to exactly equal the success because the Vikings have a very good team in place now. And what they really lack is a stellar or even a good starting quarterback.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I know that J.J. McCarthy is someone that they value. But over time, you could do another year with Aaron Rogers and still give the team to, J.J. McCarthy? A hundred percent. And, you know, that is their fallback in case they cannot land Aaron Rogers. They're going to start the clock on McCarthy. But there's no one in the NFL that thinks that the better decision is not chase Aaron Rogers and go ahead and go with J.J. McCarthy. So how big is the demand for Rogers? Like, what did you just describe him as a good, if not great quarterback anymore in the NFL? I mean, last year, obviously created a lot of doubts about how good can Aaron Rogers be at this age? But the Steelers seem to think the answer is better
Starting point is 00:10:30 than Russell Wilson. The Steelers think that the answer is better than a lot of guys. And they're right. Look, so last year, Aaron Rogers and to a degree, Devante Adams, they got caught up in the narrative of the Jets are terrible, and they were. They fired their head coach. They fired their general manager both before the season ended and they they obviously underperformed but then you step back from that and you look at it Aaron Rogers through 28 touchdown passes last year 11 interceptions Patrick Mahomes threw 20 touchdown passes last year okay the rookie of the year through 25 Jaden Daniels I'm not saying that Aaron Rogers is Patrick Mahomes I'm not saying he's got as much in the tank as Jaden Daniels.
Starting point is 00:11:23 What I'm saying is that the idea that he was horrible is not good. It's not accurate. Devante Adams, for example, he was a thousand-yard receiver last year. He had over 800 with 11 games in 11 games with the Jets. But everybody's talking about how he was, he's got nothing left. Really? I don't think so because he had eight touchdown. passes that he caught last year. Seven from Aaron Rogers.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Is a thousand yard, I've been thinking about this, Hermando. Is a thousand yard receiver a mark of a good receiver anymore? And I think about this with running backs too. Oh, he's a thousand yard running back. Well, we have 17 games now. Like, don't we have to readjust our metric on what Rico Dowdell had, did he end up with a thousand yards? It might have been 900 yards for the Cowboys. You know, and in, look, 10, 15 years ago, you'd been like, oh, one of the top running backs in the NFL if you run for over a thousand yards. but I don't think we're there anymore.
Starting point is 00:12:22 That's not a marker. You're absolutely right. And it's not just the 17 games, the extra game. The game has changed, right? We used to think of a thousand yard receiver as a big deal, as a huge deal, when it was 14 games, then 16 games. But defensive backs were able to basically mug receivers all the way down the field. and then it was they changed it to all right in the first five yards you can you can grab and hold and then it was well you can't hit them when they're in a certain position when they're not football in a football position so basically the NFL has lowered the bar on what it takes for a receiver to do his job and raise the bar for what it takes a defensive back to actually cover somebody and As I would tell you, as a pro football Hall of Fame voter, we have to adjust for that.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Right. Because 1,000 yards now is not as impressive as 1,000 yards in even 1999, 2000. Having said that, the great receivers now, the studs, they're at 12, 1,500 yards, most of them. Right. And that is really the best of the best at this point. So this, I want to, I'm going to step away from free agency for just a moment because I find this interesting. We've talked about this on the show. So the modern mindset, which I think is actually correct, is you shouldn't overpay for running backs.
Starting point is 00:14:00 You shouldn't overdraft for running backs. If they've been commoditized and it's not that they're all equal, but you can get disproportionate value at a disproportionately lower cost. You know what I'm saying? But there's always exceptions to these rules. And Sequin Barclay and Derek Henry showed that last year. Like, hey, if you think this stock category is underpriced, guess what? I'm still a Tiffany stock, even if the rest of the market is not. Does that also apply to the draft in your mind?
Starting point is 00:14:27 Like Bejohn Robinson, okay, he's a great running back. Was he worth a first round pick even when we're moving towards an idea? You shouldn't expend a first round draft pick on a running back. And I'm not just asking retrospectively about Bejohn. I'm now going to apply it this year to Ashton Gently, coming out of Boise's Should we be spending a first-round pick on a running back? Are Robinson and Genti the rookie versions of Henry and Saquan? They're the exceptions.
Starting point is 00:14:55 So the way NFL general managers have explained it to me is you don't overpay for good. You don't overpay for average. You overpay or you pay at a commensurate rate for outstanding, for excellence, for generational. The Giants made the bad mistake of thinking that because of what had happened in the previous couple of years with Sequin Barclay, that he wasn't that guy, that he wasn't generational, except he goes to the Philadelphia Eagles behind a very good offensive line, and you see that he's not just generational. He's like historic. He went for over 2,000 yards. So what you're talking about, it's fine to pay and pay through the nose even when the guy is special. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Just aren't a lot of special guys. There's a lot of running backs, but very few special guys. Okay, but apply that to the draft. Do General Manners feel the same way about the draft? Like, Bejohn is special, so he's worth a top 10 pick. And do you think they're thinking Genti is special and he's worth a first round pick? Gentie is special, and he is worth a first round pick. Obviously, it's going to depend on the needs of the teams that are there,
Starting point is 00:16:19 but he is special. And not only that, you've got to understand, you're using the pick and you're not spending a whole lot of money afterward. Right. He's got the rookie contract for the next four years. You've got him under control for five minimum. And so, you know, it's worth. worth it if you have a guy that is special.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Genti had a run in the bull. Everybody rips his bowl game performance, right? He had a run in that game that went for like three yards, four yards, where he broke six tackles, six tackles on one run to get four yards. NFL evaluators look at that and they don't go, oh, my God, this was an unremarkable run. They look at that and go, that could have been one of his best. runs of the year. Well, we'll see if that happens at number 12 to the Dallas Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:17:15 I want to go back to Pittsburgh now. So they decided, or whatever, how, they walked off from Justin Fields. Okay, Russell Wilson's one thing. So, where did Justin Fields end up? I know he got 20 million. Yes. Where is he? The Jets.
Starting point is 00:17:30 I was texting with some of my guys on my show, Armando, and talking about, like, how much money. But then I said, $20 million a year, though, that is now back. like high-priced backup quarterback money. That's not starter money anymore, right? So I think one of the guys was like, what is Justin Fields ever done to deserve a starting spot or $20 million? I'm like, that's not what they just paid him to be.
Starting point is 00:17:51 They paid him to be a maybe starter, possibly high in backup. Like $20 million, that's what that says to me. What does that say to you, Armando? It's a very expensive lottery ticket. They're hoping, praying that Justin Fields becomes the player that he was supposed to be. And everybody thought he might be when he was, I think, the second overall pick of the NFL draft. Look, to me, he's just a developmental player at this point still. And that's troubling when you're going into your fifth NFL season, right?
Starting point is 00:18:28 That's not a great, great look for a quarterback. But the Jets, they just didn't want Aaron Rogers under any circumstances. They wanted to get out from the shadow of Aaron Rogers, and they decided that we're going to go with a lot of ticket because guess what? All the other guys that they could have grabbed, that they could have signed, that they could have acquired through trade,
Starting point is 00:18:53 they're all veterans. They don't fit the arc of the current team, which is young building, we will, you know, we're not there yet, and you've got to understand we're not there yet. They, I like the one of the team. say we're going to win, we all know they're not.
Starting point is 00:19:11 But Justin Fields has shown promise. That's the thing. I like the lot of ticket. He's not, I'm a big, and you, I think you and I've talked about this in the past, I'm a big lotto ticket guy. Like, I like the idea. He's not Trey Lance. Justin Fields has shown things in the NFL to suggest he can do this job. Okay, so he gets $20 million a year.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Sam Darnold was in his same position a year ago, right? Sam Darnold was basically the Justin Fields of a year ago. He goes to the Vikings and look at the situation with that. He got 10 million, he got 30 million a year to go to the Seahawks. So 10 million more than Justin Fields. I don't know. I'm not sure Sam Darnold is that much better than Justin Fields. I think we'll know in one year.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Sam Darnold does something that Justin Fields has never been able to do. And that is to win from the pocket. Justin Fields is a great dual threat guy. He's more of a running threat than a passing threat still. Sam Darnold won from the pocket with the Minnesota Vikings. And ultimately, although it didn't go well for him the last two games in the regular season finale and the playoff game, you have to win from the pocket to win in the NFL. Josh Allen figured that out.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Lamar Jackson figured that out. You have to do that because there are ways that NFL defenses will limit you if you are merely a dual threat quarterback that is mostly a runner. More of the Will Cain Show right after this. Listen to the all-new Brett Bear podcast featuring Common Ground, in-depth talks with lawmakers from opposite sides of the aisle, along with all your Brett Bear favorites like his All-Star panel and much more. Available now at Fox Newspodcasts.com or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:21:02 It is time to take the quiz. It's five questions in less than five minutes. We ask people on the streets of New York City to play along. Let's see how you do. Take the quiz every day at the quiz.com. Then come back here to see how you did. Thank you for taking the quiz. What is going on with my team, Armando, the Dallas Cowboys?
Starting point is 00:21:23 This is what went down last night. DeMarcus Lawrence gave an interview and he said, he's just signed with the Seahawks. He said, Dallas is my home, but I know for sure I'm not going to win a Super Bowl there. Okay. It's harsh. Okay. And I actually think it's very harsh.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Like, I don't think many people, he was there 11 years. We liked DeMarcus a lot. And that's a rough thing to say, even if it's true, on your way out the door. And it really rubbed Michael Parsons the wrong way, who went to Twitter X and said, this, I can't, I'll read it how he wrote it. This what rejection and envy look like. This some clown shit. Okay, and then to Marcus Lawrence responds to that, calling me a clown won't change the fact that I told the truth.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Maybe if you spent less time tweeting and more time winning, I wouldn't have left. Oh my gosh. So why does my team have to be the Real Housewives of Dallas? Like, why does it have to be this, Armando? I love it. I bet you do. I love it. But look, the whole, the narrative across the NFL is we're a family.
Starting point is 00:22:37 This is a family. We're 53 guys bonded together. Guess what, Will, they're not a family. There's some very differing opinions in the locker room, and there's some envy in the locker room. To be clear, are you telling me every locker room, not just the Cowboys? Every locker room. The Cowboys have the special gift of making it go.
Starting point is 00:23:01 public. That's the beauty of it. And then, I mean, they're basically, it's flowing from the head down. No other owner in the NFL speaks after every home game and gives his opinion aside and apart from whatever opinion and whatever word of the day the head coach might have or the team leaders have. Jerry Jones does that. And so he cannot complain when his players go quote unquote off the reservation and either go at each other or at the media, which happened last year, if you'll recall. And so it's a bad look, but it's a fun look. The locker room, the guys are on the, they're in the same meeting room.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Like, I would assume, I would have assumed DeMarcus and Micah liked each other. Like, these are our defensive ends slash linebacker, whatever, these are our defensive ends. Micah and DeMarcus Lawrence, I just, I don't know, man. Obviously, they didn't. This didn't just happen overnight, you know. Obviously, there's some bad blood between them that led up to this. I'm so disappointed. What is more interesting is that, you know, out of the abundance of the heart, of the
Starting point is 00:24:17 heart, the mouth speaks, I bet you DeMarcus Lawrence has been thinking this for a while. The fact that Micah Parsons has a podcast, that he's all over social media, that he is very out there. This didn't just happen in the span of 24 hours or the two hours that it took them to have this exchange. DeMarcus Lawrence, I bet you, has been thinking this guy spends too much time on social media or on his podcast or doing interviews that he should be, you know, using to make the Dallas Cowboys better. And it poured out of him yesterday. Okay, I want to ask you a question league-wide about Micah. So, in Dallas right now, there is a lot of insecurity. There's a lot of shell shock after the Dallas Mavericks traded Luca Donchich.
Starting point is 00:25:14 What it taught us is no one is untouchable and never feel secure, never. So the way you grow up watching sports, sometimes when you get a player like Michael Parsons, you're like, well, this guy's got to be here forever because he's generational. Well, from experience now, I think I speak for a lot of Cowboys fans. You don't feel that way about anybody anymore. If you can trade Luca Donchich, I know we're talking about two different teams and two different sports. But if Luca donchish can be traded, anyone can be traded, period. Micah, weirdly, there's open dialogue about that in Dallas.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Like, is Micah going to be here for the long haul? Should they trade Micah? Should they sign Micah? For somebody that good to have that much conversation around him, it's really weird, Armando. Like, I don't know what the Cowboys plans are, but there's a more open mind about, hey, is this guy with us for the long haul, that I can remember any guy this good? You know who is responsible for that open dialogue and that open speculation? Again, Jerry Jones.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Why? Because he had arguably the most productive quarterback in the NFL, and he took his good, sweet time getting him signed to a contract. And in the interim, people were going, are the Cowboys really committed to Dak Prescott? Are they not? What's going on? They have C.D. Lamb, who is arguably the top one, two, or three wide receiver in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:26:38 And what did they do? They took their good, sweet time getting him extended. Why do they do that? Why do they do that, Armando? I don't know because it's not. Well, they'll say it's because of salary cap space and we have to negotiate. Except that the longer you wait. They always pay more.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Yes. Always pay more. 100%. It never goes down. The price never goes down unless the guy, you know, blows a knee, which doesn't happen in the offseason. So do get the guy signed. And now they're, guess what?
Starting point is 00:27:11 They're doing it again with Micah Parsons. It's Michael Parsons extension time now. Right. And so do we have negotiations that are close to extending Michael Parsons? No. Why? Because they're taking their time. They're, you know, they even did it with, with McCarthy, with Mike McCarthy. It took them like four days to figure out. I would love, Armando, I would love to interview Stephen or Jerry and be like, would just, and it doesn't need to be antagonistic. Would you give me the business philosophy? Like, because everyone talks about this. You're exactly right. This is what they do and it's different than everybody. They wait and they delay. And okay, you could say there's a theory. Like, the theory is, I don't want to sign someone to your point who then blows out his knee and I've got to pay a guy that can't play, right? And I actually get that theory.
Starting point is 00:28:04 So let's get the full contract value out of them and they're healthy before we give them a new contract and enter that new contract healthy. But the problem in doing that is, you know, you get that coverage, you sort of get that insurance coverage. But to your point, you always end up paying more. Like if you sign them earlier, they never hit free agency, they never get close to it, prices don't go down in the NFL, you'd have a better salary cap management. Absolutely. And let's play devil's advocate here. Suppose they wait until the contract expires and then they've got the early part of the off season where they have exclusive rights to re-sign a player. If that player blew out his knee last year, the Dallas Cowboys aren't going to get this huge discount because the guy's blown out his knee. The guy's agent is going to say he blew out his knee in service of you and he'll be ready to go 100% next season. So we're still on track to break the bank.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Let's break the bank. That's going to be the negotiating stance of every single. agent representing an injured player. And oh, by the way, if you don't do the right thing, you're sending a message to your locker room that service to you does not reap a reward when you go down in that service. So you need to pay us. Where's the advantage of waiting in that? I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:29:40 What's your favorite free agent deal so far? Well, I would say to you, a team that really I look at as curious is two different teams. And I look at, for example, the Chicago Bears, they got Caleb Williams destroyed last year. They led the NFL in sacks. They allowed 68 sacks. So they went out this year and signed or traded for three offensive linemen. they're solving their Caleb Williams, you know, in a fetal position on the field problem. The Houston, Texas have the same problem with C.J. Strout.
Starting point is 00:30:28 They were second or third in most sacks allowed. They had 58. And so they need to address the offensive line. And what do they do? They're getting rid of everybody. They traded Laramie Tunsell, who is arguably one of the top three or four left tackle. in the NFL, they're just cleaning house and we'll see what
Starting point is 00:30:50 happens. Do I like the Bears approach better or the, let's see what happens approach of the Texans better. I think I like the Bears approach a little bit better. Okay. Who is your favorite free agent left out there, unsigned
Starting point is 00:31:06 that some team should be able to go get? Aaron Rogers. Okay, besides Aaron Rogers. So, obviously, everybody's going to look at Cooper Cup. Everyone's looking at Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson is making trips now, visits to Cleveland yesterday, the New York Giants today. Those are the big names left out there. Hey, does Russell Wilson start next year?
Starting point is 00:31:36 For some team, he starts next year. This is like what that game were musical chairs. and, you know, at the end, you better have a chair or you're standing up and you're out. Yeah. Except that this year there are more chairs than players. And so these quarterbacks will find jobs and they will be doing what they expect to be doing. We have so few players that teams are clamoring to get a trade done for Kirk Cousins. Who is not available right now by the Atlanta Falcons?
Starting point is 00:32:09 He's on the team. Right. But they would like. him to be available so that they can insert him in their chair. The Falcons willing to trade Cousins? They say they're not. It doesn't make sense that they're not, but they say that they are not because of the contract, because they think that he's, their stance is we're going to pay him $27 million to be a backup.
Starting point is 00:32:35 What could they get in trade value for Cousins right now? Second and a third? To me, it doesn't matter. Because here's the deal. You get rid of $27 million. Yeah, right. And you move on. The shadow of having a viable backup when you have a rookie or a second year starter is an intangible one that is uncomfortable for most guys.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Because the second that Michael Pennix Jr. struggles in a couple of games in a row, what's the conversation going to be on talk radio locally? what will the fan base be clamoring for? Let's get the backup guy in there. He's healthy. We love him. Let's do it. Just like last year when Kirk Cousins went from leading the NFL in touchdowns
Starting point is 00:33:26 to leading the NFL in interceptions in the span of a few weeks, it went from, we love Kirk Cousins to let's go to Michael Pettick Jr. Right. Fans do that. Right. So there's enough seats. for everybody, where's Cooper Cup going to go? I did read this morning, I mean, back to Dallas. It could be Dallas. It's not Dallas. Sorry, it's not going to be Dallas. I would be, I would be,
Starting point is 00:33:53 it's 99.9% not going to be Dallas. Why? Because they won't pay enough to meet the market. Exactly. And he wants a lot right now, which is probably the price tag that's going to go down, but not enough for the Cowboys' ability to add the guy. Can you understand if... What does he get at this age? Does he get... Let me guess, Armando. Does he get...
Starting point is 00:34:18 He doesn't get more than $15 million a year, does he? He doesn't. That's what he wants. Yeah, he wants $15 a year. If he gets that, his agent should win the agency prize. He doesn't deserve that. Most teams aren't going to pay that. The Cowboys can't afford that anyway.
Starting point is 00:34:35 And so what I'm thinking is more along the line of between 10 and 12. Hmm. So where is it going to be? If it's not Dallas, where is it going to be? Who's going to be on the West Coast, which strongly suggests Seattle. Okay. All right. NFL free agency talk with Armando Sagero. It's always fun, man. You always plugged in. You always have the information for us. I love talking to you. Thank you, Armando. Appreciate you, Will. Okay, take care. It is time to take the quiz.
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