Will Cain Country - Who Funds Iran Protests!? Plus, Talarico Topples Crockett in Texas (ft. Asra Nomani)

Episode Date: March 4, 2026

Groups like the "ANSWER Coalition,” “Code Pink,” and “The People’s Forum,” have become a common sight at protests, but they also share a dark secret, and we’re not just talking about Lef...t wing ideals. Senior Editor of Investigations for FOX News Digital, Asra Nomani joins Will to unpack the sprawling network of “activist” organizations funding protests across the U.S., explaining how a select few wealthy benefactors with ties to the Chinese Communist Party have astroturfed outrage on our streets for decades, and how they continue to do so today.Plus, Will and The Crew discuss whether your average liberal would even care that these protests are paid, before reacting to Rep. Jasmine Crockett’s (D-TX) tragic loss in the Texas primary election and Democratic Nominee for Senate in Texas James Talarico’s (D-TX) timid political and religious beliefs.Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@willcainnews⁠⁠⁠)Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Those Jasmine Crockett. But before you celebrate, realize, in comes the rise of James Talley. Within 15 minutes of the attacks on Iran, there were people on the streets of New York City, people across America hoisting signs, once again paid for it. Once again, AstroTurfed. this time in support of Iran. It is Wilcane Country. Streaming live at the Will Cain Country YouTube channel, the Wilcane Facebook page,
Starting point is 00:01:03 which you can follow us at Spotify or on Apple. What's up, Wulisha? James Tala Rico is your new Democrat candidate for Senate from Texas. A runoff is still scheduled for a few months from now. Between incumbent Senator John Cornyn and Texas, Attorney General Ken Paxton to be the Republican nominee for Senate. And although it'll be fun, and we're going to break it down in just a moment, the end of Jasmine Crockett, I do have to tell you, you better be prepared for the rise of James
Starting point is 00:01:43 Talariko. There's a lot of people out there on social media today, reposting some of my videos and clips suggesting this is going to be a blowout in Texas, and I'm here to tell you it will not be a blowout. This is a serious race. Do not take likely. James Tala Rico. Friday night, Saturday morning. Moments and minutes before and after the United States began a bombing campaign against Iran, there was an organized protest on the streets of New York City. There were protests across America. And interestingly, these protesters that screamed stop the war, who villainized the United States of America, who sympathized.
Starting point is 00:02:28 with the Ayatollah, carried the same branding and the same paid-for monikers that we've seen in the past. In the past, what not that's been, protests against ICE in Minnesota, or even Code Pink in Washington, D.C. A few months ago, Osir Nomani, senior editor of investigations at Fox News Digital, held up those signs and showed us who paid, showed us how those same protesters, not just those same signs, but those same people showed up, regardless of the cause at any given moment, to support the AstroTurf left. And here they were again, this time for the Ayatollah. Azra nomani joins us now on Wilkane Country. Good to see you, Azra. I'm glad to have you in this moment because it was shocking, wasn't it? It's shocking for the casual observer in that. Let's just
Starting point is 00:03:24 start with timing. It was fast, Asra. It might even been before the first bomb dropped. It was fast. They were out there on the streets of New York. They were there within hours because the strikes happened overnight. But within minutes of President Trump even announcing the strike, they had put their notice out, their call to action that this network of organizations was going to be on the streets. And they have been. been teeing it up for days, well, they have said in post, hey, if the strikes happen before 1 p.m., get out there at 5 p.m. If they happen after 1 p.m., then go out there the next day. So it's been this synchronized effort, and I'm so excited to walk you through it.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Or my Nancy Drew jacket just for you and your listeners and watchers, and really happy to unpack it all. I'm liking your newspaper jacket, your Nancy Drew jacket. You have the You have collected some signs. You can really walk us through. And why don't you do so? Show us what they were saying, but more importantly, show us who was paying for the message. Yeah. And one thing I want to do is frame this in the global context, because here we are in the United
Starting point is 00:04:41 States of America. And what I'm going to show you is witness to what is happening on our streets. But the big picture is that for five decades, for 47 years since the Iranian Revolution in 1979, there has been the creation of this so-called axis of evil between Iran, China, and Russia. And so I just want people to keep that in mind as we walk through this network in the United States because critics would argue that this network acts as a front organization and effort to create this thing called malign foreign influence for this axis of evil. So let's walk through it.
Starting point is 00:05:22 And another term that I'd love to introduce people to is the idea of predictive analysis, because this is the sign for the stop-the-war rally that they are going to have across the country this Saturday. So I want everybody to know that you know ahead of time who the players are going to be. So that's huge, right? They've got the stop, the yellow, you know, light yellow here. they've got the bright colors, and then in small print is the list of the sponsors. And that's what I'm going to walk you through. But the message is not just stop the war.
Starting point is 00:06:04 That's really important, too. The message is pro-regime, because I want to anchor this conversation in one of the most shocking allies in this coalition, and that is this organization called the Manassas Mosque in northern Virginia. And they posted this Instagram social media image this weekend. And it's an image of the Ayatollah Khomeini, and it is saying honoring our leader, Shaheed Ayatollah Ali Khomeini. So Shaheed means martyr in Arabic.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And this is an effort to honor his death. And also just to give context to folks. I went to a Friday service of this mosque recently, and I wrote an article about how the Imam at the mosque prayed for victory over the non-believers, the Mushrukun, which is the non-believers and the Khaferun, and they wanted victory of their Iranian regime over the United States. So this is really important in this context of all of this. I haven't even unpacked yet, but Will, what do you think about what I've already shared? I want to focus in on that Virginia Mosque for just one moment because it caught my attention,
Starting point is 00:07:26 Osra. I saw that Instagram post, I saw that Instagram post, which was deleted. But the first thing about that mosque and their celebration of the life of the Ayatollah Cominee is just the shocking nature, the eye-opening nature that this exists within the United States of America. This isn't so much about religious freedom. It's not so much about political disagreement, but that we have in our country a population of people who celebrate the enemies of America. I think we need to have that conversation totally separate from anyone's political disagreement, potential political disagreement, with this particular war or any war. There is no debating the Ayatollah's position on the United States of America. He has preached and practiced death to America. And it really, really is eye-opening,
Starting point is 00:08:18 Azra, if it can be, if we can still be shocked. There are people that live in our country, most likely with legal status, perhaps even with citizenship, who celebrate the enemies of America. Yeah. And, well, you know, I can tell you, I came as an immigrant to the United States. I come from a Muslim family. We practice Sunni Islam. I'm a Muslim feminist, if people can believe, and that's a whole program about what that means. But I sit before you as somebody who has been raised in an interpretation of Islam that rejects that theocracy of the Ayatollah Khomeini.
Starting point is 00:08:54 But just like you said, there is an entire network of organizations, mosques, and various groups that support the Islamic Republic of Iran. I went to that Manassas Mosque, and you will not even believe this also. I was stunned to see it myself. But in the prayer hall, they not only had a photo of Ayatollah Khomeini, but they had a photo of him with Sinwar, the leader of the Hamas terrorist group, and Nasrullah, the leader of the Hezbollah
Starting point is 00:09:27 terrorist group. All three have now been killed by Israeli strikes and actions, but they celebrated them. And as a journalist, I asked the leaders, why? you have their images. And they said, because these individuals represent our fight against injustice. So that's how they frame it will. Incredible. Okay. Let's return to the sign Stop the War with Iran. Let's go to the bottom of the flyer. And you pointed out at the bottom of the flyer, there are a whole host of sponsors of the March 7th Stop the War rally. Tell us about those sponsors. Okay. And what I'm going to show is how These sponsors recycle messages because I have collected their signs over a couple years now.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I can have literally a museum exhibition on their signs. This is the first one, American Muslims for Palestine. This is their Chicago chapter. This was from a protest in which they were demonstrating against the Biden administration support of Israel during the war after the October 7th tragedy. But you see American Muslims for Palestine, They were there at a protest that I attended Monday night in front of the White House, spewing their hatred against the U.S. The Answer Coalition. This one was a sign from their support of Mahmoud Khalil.
Starting point is 00:10:58 And this organization is really important because they are the hub organization that is supported by multi-million dollar donations from this, tech tycoon named Neville Roy Singham living in Shanghai, although he is American-born. So just to lay that out a little bit again is a tech tycoon born in America is now living in Shanghai. He's a self-declared Marxist, and if you can believe you're hearing this word, well, a Maoist, because he supports the teachings of Chairman Mao. of the Chinese Communist Party, who led the Cultural Revolution. And the Answer Coalition is one of its key organizations in the United States. And then...
Starting point is 00:11:56 Okay. Neville Roy Singham. I want to dig into him for just one moment. We've talked about him in the past. A Mao is a Marxist, an American citizen living in China. He is the main funder behind the Answer Coalition. How many of these signs for your museum are sponsored. How many of these protests are supported by the Answer Coalition? I have now documented in a database that over the last three years, they have supported at least 300 national protest organizations, protest efforts. And that is every protest that we have seen against Israel, against ICE, against the Trump administration, and now against the U.S. strikes on Iran and throw in there also the U.S. action on Venezuela.
Starting point is 00:12:50 And what's really important... Okay, they have protested. The answer coalition has supported protests in support of Venezuelan leader Nicholas Maduro, in support of the Ayatollah and the regime in Iran, anti-Trump, anti-Isafe, anti-Israel. Those various causes have all been supported by the U. answer coalition and Neville Roy Singham. And what's really important is in support of the Chinese Communist Party. They are explicitly in support of the People's Republic of China and Xi, the president of China. They have been running hundreds of events along with these protests that
Starting point is 00:13:35 promote and parrot the propaganda of the Chinese government. And so if everybody remembers again, the axis of evil that we talked about. China has a direct interest in ending any strikes on Iran and keeping the regime in power because for many years now, they have used Iran to supply oil to their nation. Let's take a quick break, but continue this deep dive investigation with Azra Nomani of Fox News Digital on Wilcane Country. Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything, like packing a spare stick. to be prepared. That's why I remember 988, Canada's suicide crisis helpline. It's good to know, just in case. Anyone can call or text for free confidential support from a train responder anytime.
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Starting point is 00:15:07 not necessarily in that particular sign, the answer coalition, was you, used a protest during the Biden administration. I'm curious, as you rattle off these various causes that have been supported by the Answer Coalition, what is the tide that binds? Is the tie that binds leftist ideology or is the tie that binds the CCP? Well, we're very polite when we say leftist ideology, really, because it's taken me, you know, hundreds of hours of binge watching their own propaganda to understand clearly that they are supporting the Marxists. Leninist teachings that many people would also describe as communism. They have called themselves socialists in many fronts, but oftentimes they will also say,
Starting point is 00:15:54 I am a proud communist. And that is one connective tissue. When I was at a protest in front of the White House, well, they were protesting Joe Biden and Kamala Harris because ultimately they wanted to fracture the relationship between the U.S. and Israel. So they started chanting. They are the ones who invented genocide Joe as a way to taunt Joe Biden. And I was listening and I watched somebody go, are you guys MAGA? And they were like, what? No, we're not MAGA because they were so anti-Biden in their framing of their messages. But what's the connective tissue? they are anti-America and pro-China. That is a clear connective tissue. And what do they want? They want to sow chaos as the House Ways and Means Committee Chair Jason Smith has said. And they also want to
Starting point is 00:16:56 make China more competitive on the global stage than the U.S. All right, let's go back to the Stop the War flyer once again for the March 7th rally. you're walking through some of the sponsors. You've told us about A&P and the Answer Coalition. And then the Answer Coalition is a part of this organization that's in a little black bubble here. And you can hardly even read the print, but it says the People's Forum. Sounds amazing, right? Sounds like something you'd want to get an annual membership to.
Starting point is 00:17:26 But that is the hub where the answer coalition and this organization, the party for socialism, and liberation literally print their signs. And you can see in this one, this is a sign about resistance against occupation is a human right. So this was a part of their anti-Israel protest. But these guys were out on the streets all this past week. They're going to, there are the foot soldiers in this effort. They don't even have their logo on the sheet because they almost don't need to have it.
Starting point is 00:18:04 But they have dozens of chapters, including in Texas, all across Texas. They have a hub in Houston. And they are part of the machine that coordinates the messaging so that it gets, literally these picket signs get into the hands of even well-intentioned people who are just thinking that they are, you know, exercising their free speech rights. Well-intentioned people, unfortunately, are foils. part for and sort of puppets for this network. One other group that is included in here. Uh-huh. Yep. I could go on. So please tell me. Yes. One other group that's included? Yeah. It's really important. And that is the Palestinian youth movement. I don't have one of their
Starting point is 00:18:52 signs, but I do have one of their partners, which is the U.S. Palestinian Community Network. And I brought this sign specifically because these folks are the ones in Chicago that take on ICE officers as they are doing their work. You know, it's a recycled headline of the day that they come out on the streets for. And then finally, one of the most important little images to understand, they don't even put their name on this. That is how well they kind of hide the optics of,
Starting point is 00:19:28 they hide the actual language of their organization. It's two hands. embracing over a rose, and that is none other than the logo for the Democratic Socialists of America. And what is this sign say? It says, social, yeah, socialism beats fascism. Because what has happened now, Will, in this connective tissue, is that the Chinese Communist Party has messaged that socialism is in a war with fascism. It's so ironic an argument since socialism is a fascist, you know, expression of governance over people in the way that Russia, China, Venezuela, Cuba exercise their governance. But that is how they have framed it.
Starting point is 00:20:21 And that is how it is that now the Trump administration is being associated with this term of fascist. This is the grand propaganda messaging strategy that they've got. Let's take a break for one second, Osra. I want to play for you a clip. This is by a guy named Nate Friedman, and he's done a little bit of what you have done as he goes to the streets. And he interacts with these protesters. And he interacts with them as they're beginning to set up. So let's take a look at him as he sort of catches it at its visually most organized moment at the street level.
Starting point is 00:20:58 The signs are being delivered to the street, and they're beginning to be handed out. Watch this clip of Nate Friedman. All right, so you can see that none of this is grassroots. This is all paid for. Hey, how you doing guys? Where are we headed with these signs? Good, woo. Okay, so this guy's gonna drive up,
Starting point is 00:21:14 and they're gonna load all the signs into this car right here. Here we go. Let's load them all into this van. See for yourself, ladies and gentlemen, witness this. What is wrong? What is wrong with us? You are such a power of this piece of shit. You are, who pays you? Who pays you?
Starting point is 00:21:31 Who pays me? How much money you could get? This is not real journalism. You're a fake, you're a fake, you complete fake journalist. Did you or did you not get $20 million from Roy and Evels Shingham to protest? How much do you or did you not? How much do you get for your right wing bull? That's what I want to know.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Okay, so you can look on YouTube, on Social Blade. You can see exactly how much I earned. Take a photo of me as if there is an already photo. All right, so Ozra, you can see there, he's on the streets of New York City. He's seeing these people carry these signs out in bulk of what looks like a bookstore. a bookstore. And he accuses her in whatever organization that she is associated with, and their signs are yellow and they have black writing on them. I didn't get a look at what the Stein say. He accuses them of getting $20 million from Neville Roycingham.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Yeah. So it wasn't just a bookstore, Will. That's what's so awesome. And thank you so much for playing that clip is that is the People's Forum. Right here, right smack in the middle of this poster. That's the People's Forum. where Neville Roy Singham has planted so much money to support this network. And that woman that he was speaking to is Leia, who is one of the key organizers of the anti-Israel protest. She's Palestinian-American, and she is rabid anti-Israel ideologue. And also, this is what's so important, self-declared socialist, Marxist. And so that's how this alliance fits together.
Starting point is 00:22:58 and then goes out into our streets. And over and over and over, Ozer, right? Like the same people, if not the same signs, the same sponsors of the signs, regardless, we've become accustomed to this, meaning ice, okay, we see them on the streets of Minneapolis.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Whatever the issue is, they're out there quickly. And you and I have spoken in the past about the prospect of well-meaning people who may agree, kind of folding into their ranks, but it always starts this spark with this very highly paid and organized fashion. Yeah, and it's strategic.
Starting point is 00:23:38 That's what's so important for everyone to understand. It is well-funded, well-coordinated, and well- orchestrated campaign by people aligned with maligned foreign interests designed to undermine the United States of America. And you know what's interesting about that to me is, even if the. there's well-meaning people that end up in the crowd, right? Yeah. They should know who they're associated with. They should know who's paying for the thing that they're joining. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Yeah, because, you know, I worked at the Wall Street Journal for 15 years. I covered the airline industry, covered the travel industry, covered, you know, jetted off to airplane crashes. And there's one thing that we always did, and that was follow the money on everything. And what we have to understand and how I try to approach my reporting on this industry is that it is a business. You know, those signs have to be printed on paper that somebody buys. All those individuals working at the People's Forum, like the one that we saw in the video, they are salaried employees. and they are doing this with a very clear agenda. But what's really important in the United States of America
Starting point is 00:25:05 is that we do have laws about how these organizations function. And those are non-profit laws. Al Capone was a criminal syndicate that was ultimately dismantled using IRS laws. And so what committees that people hardly pay attention to like house ways and means and the treasury department and others are doing is investigating these organizations for whether or not they're violating their nonprofit laws and their statutes because they have these lofty missions about education and this and that
Starting point is 00:25:42 they don't include it in their agitation which is exactly what this industry is about let's take quick break but continue this deep dive investigation with ozra nomani of of fox news digital on will kink country welcome Welcome back to Will Kane Country. We're still hanging out with Azra Nomani investigative reporter at Fox News Digital talking about the paid protesters, the groups, the money behind the protests that now include stop the war in Iran. All right. Here's another clip from Nate Friedman where he addresses them to your point, Osra, on being paid protesters. Watch. Get a real job, be a real journalist, and do something for something in your life. How can you say with a straight face for me to get a real job? How can you keep a straight face and say that? Did you or did you not get $20 million from Norneville Singham?
Starting point is 00:26:28 You can't deny it. Meet Lyon Fulihon. She's a paid protester. Her base salary is $70,000 with an additional compensation of $8,649. So who is this woman getting paid $80K a year to protest? Lyon is a Columbia alum with a Palestinian background. She holds a full-time staff position as an educator at the People's Forum as she protests all around New York City. Here she is alongside Tahr, another paid protesting leader that we've exposed.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Roy Neville-Singham pays Lyon to travel. That's why you see her speaking in Washington, D.C. at another protest. None of this is grassroots. Know that. Yeah, that's to your point, Osra. And he's done this with a lot of these protesters. Simply video them, get their faces, and then look into who they are because they show up at every protest.
Starting point is 00:27:15 They are professionals. They are. They are professional, paid protest organizers. And the reason why we also know this is because they have to get permits. And so when they get their permits, they put an entire run of show like you would organize a wedding. And it's people like Leone, who are the point folks for the Park Police or the New York Police Department. I went to one protest right after the killing, the first killing in Minneapolis. And that was another one where they just were on the streets like that.
Starting point is 00:27:58 And it was one of the people, David, from the People's Forum that Nate also documents in that little documentary video that he's created. And David was literally directing the, protesters as they walk through the streets, coordinating with the New York Police Department, and running the protests from beginning to end. They bring out the megaphones. I love in the video that you've shown, I don't know if folks could see it, but there's a wagon. And they always have these wagons.
Starting point is 00:28:39 And they're like their go-to organizing tool. And in the wagons, they pile these signs and they pile their megaphone. and their speakers. And why do we know this? Because what I do is just what Nate did. He arrived early. So you arrive an hour so early. They always show up.
Starting point is 00:29:00 This is so funny, Will. There's such late arrivals. They show up five, ten minutes sometimes before the protest time is beginning with all their props. And then you can watch them unpack. And so I invite people to go to some of these protests, but go early.
Starting point is 00:29:15 and you'll see exactly how it's run. You'll see it for yourself. Osra, I have up on my screen here in my studio, Code Pink, peace with Iran, stop the bombing. We haven't talked about Code Pink. We've gotten familiar with Code Pink. They're always around. They're always showing up.
Starting point is 00:29:31 What's their deal? Yeah. Thank you so much for highlighting them. Here they are. They're right there next to the People's Forum. That's also telling. So the People's Forum, as we now have been introduced, has been funded by this tech tycoon Neville Roy Singham. And Code Pink was co-founded by his lovely wife, Jody Evans.
Starting point is 00:30:01 They were married. Yeah. All runs in the family. 2017, they were married. And that's when People's Forum was created. Code Pink got an infusion of cash, also from the Singham Network. I brought one of their signs, another one of their signs, because they love their hot pink. I love my fuchsia before Code Pink became my obsession.
Starting point is 00:30:27 But this was, again, an Israel. And there they are. Yesterday they were present at another congressional hearing with Secretary Nome. And they are the ones who will oftentimes be the foot soldiers, just like the Party for Socialism and Liberation, bringing out elderly folks who have been relics of the actual Cold War, and they are continuing now this new Cold War, promoting China, literally promoting China in initiatives to rebrand China.
Starting point is 00:31:05 If anyone wants to go on a spring break trip to China, they're organizing one. They have organized trips to the People's Republic, Republic of Iran, to Gaza, to Venezuela, to Cuba. I hope folks can sort of see that the business also includes this adventure tourism to these, you know, very, very far left, socialist, communist, communist countries that are, most importantly, adversaries of the United States. And Code Pink is out there, like with this sign that you showed, peace with Iran stop the bombing. What they don't say is support the Islamic Republic of Iran, support the theocratic government,
Starting point is 00:31:55 support their tyranny against the people. And that is the sort of information warfare is one term that people use about this. This is their psychological operations on the United States, capturing people's imagination with words that you normally appreciate like peace, but actually they're using as Trojan horses for much more nefarious purposes. All right. The flyer that you're showing, this is my last question for you, Azra, the flyer that you're showing on in our New York studios I have here digitally in Dallas. It's stopped the war with Iran Saturday, March 7th, and it has the various groups that you've highlighted for us at the bottom of the flyer. AMP, which you talked about, the Answer Coalition, which seems to be the major sponsor because they're at the bottom. NIAC, the People's Forum, Code Pink, the Black Alliance, a couple of others I have trouble reading. Here's my question for you.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Do these groups support politicians as well? Do they just do this – do they donate to politicians? That's why it was so important to highlight one of those groups that doesn't even have a name. the Democratic Socialists of America, because that's the organization that has built a 501C4 political nonprofit, nonprofit again, and they have also donated. And as everybody knows, they have been the ones that put Zoran Mamdani into the mayors in New York City. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:30 And so they very much have political aspirations. I'm going to be connecting the dots on Tala Rico now, you know, that we know that he's player to see what influence they have had on him and his campaign and his messaging. But you can absolutely be certain that any candidate or politician who has had the endorsement of the Democratic Socialist of America is parroting this language. And that's why we see AOC, Rishita Taleb and Ilhan Omar. That's what I'm curious about. These politicians say the same things that we're hearing on the signs, but I'm curious if they're also paid these politicians. Well, they're paid through political contributions.
Starting point is 00:34:11 That's exactly what it is. This network, you know, as individuals, even as you know, can give political contributions. And so individuals from the network give contributions. And then when they do set up the political action committees or 501C4 nonprofits, they are working for the political campaigns and aspirations of these candidates. That's so critical. I'm so glad you connected the doctor. on that. Yeah. It's also fascinating. And it's all so much more than organic and spontaneous. And I think it's important that people understand all this. It's always great having you on,
Starting point is 00:34:52 Ozra. Thanks for laying this out again. We'll be watching this as we approach this weekend, because it's this weekend, this entire deal. We've got a lot more reporting coming up. I've got a lot more reporting coming out. So come back to you with Nancy Drew. Okay, good. Thank you, Ozra. All right. Thank you. We want to have you. We'd love to have you. All right. That's Osir Nomani here. Fox News, digital investigations at FoxNews.com. Really, really, really, really fascinating stuff about the connective tissue, the ideology, the money, the paid protesters, the paid politicians in what amounts to anti-American, pro-CCP Marxist messaging here at home on the streets of America. Let's take a quick break and talk about
Starting point is 00:35:35 Jasmine Crockett. It's over, but not for James Taylor. Rico, the rising star in Texas when we come back on Wilcane Country. It is Wilcane Country at the Wilcane Country YouTube channel, the Wilcane Facebook page on Spotify and on Apple. Two days day and tinfoil, Pat, first of all, can we just say, I find that so fascinating. Last time Osir was on with us. You know, I think, and Patrick is familiar with this term we've talked about, steel man. Steel manning is... Opposite of Strawman, right?
Starting point is 00:36:17 I think of it. Yes. a very, very, very useful tool. Not a popular one. Straw Manning is much more popular. Do you know what I mean? Like, if you want to gain an audience... Tell the audience.
Starting point is 00:36:29 And you want to get people to high-five you. Huh? I wasn't really sure what it meant. What? I wasn't really sure what it meant. Well, look, in the age of social media, in the age of social media and short attention spans and this kind of thing and sort of like, the way that everything is getting, I don't know, so tribal. The path to the quickest rise to popularity is to provide the weakest form of argument of your opponent and enslay it, right? That's straw manning.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Steel manning is giving the best benefit of the Dow and strongest argument of your opponent and then taking it down. And there are people, I think a lot of rational people, that find that ultimately more compelling, right? But it isn't done in 30-second clips. It just isn't. So, you know, last time we were with Osra, I asked her in an attempt to sort of steal man the issue here. What is, okay, so when we laid this out, as we just did, it's incredibly damning for anyone that I think not only joins these protests, but parrots this type of language. you are signing up for something that is overtly, at least quasi-overtly. I mean, it's not on its surface, but it's not hidden either.
Starting point is 00:37:57 You just have to dig a couple of layers. Anti-American, anti-American, funded by at least sympathizers to the CCP who believe in a version of Marxism. But let's steal man that for just a moment. If you were on the left and you're listening to everything that was just laid out by Osra, What is the most dismissive or strongest argument against it? And I think that it would go something like this. Well, you're just calling something that you disagree with anti-American, right? So in other words, I have a different vision of America than you do.
Starting point is 00:38:32 That's good point. My vision of America, this is my steelman attempt at what they're saying. My vision of America includes, you know, universal health care, whatever. elements of what we would call socialism, right? But I do think we have to be, I think it's not straumning to say that is obviously morphed into other things too. Like it became inherently anti-free speech. It just did from the years 20. It was openly inherently free speech from COVID to, you know, what was described as domestic terrorist talk. And that encompassed everything from vaccination talk to school board meetings where parents who showed up at school board meetings worried
Starting point is 00:39:12 about what their children were being taught were labels domestic terrorists. So the elements of socialism and their vision, their different vision of America wasn't just benign universal health care, right? It wasn't Democrats of the 1990s. So like your friends, Dan, if they heard that, I think that their response would be cool, cool deep dive. Ultimately, these people just want a, a different vision of America that they would not describe as anti-American, right? And then the real philosophical debate begins when your different vision of America, by its definition, is different than the definition of America, which has an objective founding, and we would hope continuation.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Do you see what I'm saying? Like, we know the spirit and the values with which America was born. And if your vision of America is antagonistic to those, does it not ultimately because, become something that is anti-American. Yeah. And Marxist. Marxism is anti-American. How about that?
Starting point is 00:40:17 Can we agree? Is Marxism anti-American? Just start there. Yes. Yes, right? Absolutely. I agree. I mean, as someone who's kind of moderate left, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:40:27 There's no way that wasn't founded that way. It will never be that way and it shouldn't be that way. And they can't coexist. Uh-oh, Patrick. They can't coexist. I think personally that we've kind of been battling this since our founding. Like, if you think about the pilgrims, a lot of the things that they did, while they weren't technically Marxist because Marx wasn't alive yet, they did have, like, communes and they did share things and have some similar. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Everything. I don't think that's the same thing. That's not the same thing. Yeah. That is living communally locally is not living Marxist nationally. That's not the same thing. Like, the concept of community, the same thing. the concept of community is not by its very nature Marxist. It is not. The founders of America
Starting point is 00:41:21 would have supported the idea of community, living together in harmony, helping each other out. But Marxism is the forced nature of that from a top-down design, not the organic development of that within a neighborhood. I get what you're saying. I'm just saying that there are, there have been elements of that within of that frame of thinking throughout our history, whereas it's kind of been this battle between mavericks and cowboys and freedom and those who don't really want that. It's essentially anti-capitalism is what these people want. You're simplifying that.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Look, who are the most charitable people in America? The right. That's objective. Like, we know the numbers on this. The right is way more charitable than the left, giving money away to charity. That doesn't mean the right is Marxist. Giving away charity to help other people
Starting point is 00:42:12 is not Marxist. So these are people living together in harmony, helping each other out voluntarily is not a characteristic of Marxism. And I think you're going a little far on that. It is the forced nature of an elite class of people who decide what is best for the community and force everyone else to participate. That is Marxism. Yeah, I'll have to go back and come up with better arguments. but I don't know why you can have just patched guys me. I guess, Dan, I'm just trying to steal, man. Anybody on the left that would see that and be like, so what? You know, like, never always seeing him.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Like that right there, we should all want to know who he is and what his end goal is. He's funding so much. I think that people, like the guys I know that are lefties, look at that. and look at these protesters and think it's a little bit of a clown show, right? They do kind of agree with what they're saying, but the fact that they're being, you know, funded by these, you know, quiet investors and all these things are, it's kind of like, okay, well, that's happening, whatever, who cares, but, you know, still F the right kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Right. Hey, by the lie, don't you think it's interesting, that charity thing I just said, like the left, despite all of its Marxist rhetoric, is not charitable? Because the right's richer. Like, that's kind of... Oh, is that what it is? Yep. I don't think that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:43:51 I think that's what it is. I would say more billionaires or more conservative. I'm not sure that's true. There's just more money. Well, you think billionaires are the only ones to give to charity? You think billionaires are the only one that give to charity? No, well, the richer you are, the more likely you are to give a lot to charity. So I think the richer you become, the more conservative you come.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Which you said wasn't true, but I don't know that that's true. In some ways, though, it's kind of loaded, though, because, like, they give to, charities and like with Singham you're seeing his charities are playing their tax write-offs and they're also supporting
Starting point is 00:44:25 you know his his views and pushing his views into society certain other people do that as well through their foundations I mean look at the the brothers what they did sit in a pee on Sunday
Starting point is 00:44:40 and you're going to see the difference you think it's billionaires I offer sit in a pee on Sunday All right. It's a sad. It's sad. I think it's somewhat sad. Very sad. Sad day for Jasmine Crockett. I'm telling you something. There's a lot of people celebrating this.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Like I see some posts out there. Well, it's a good thing. You know, it's a good thing that we're finally done with Jasmine Crockett. Be careful. See, here's the thing. Jasmine Crockett lost yesterday to James Tala Rico and the Democrat Senate primary for Texas. It wasn't even particularly close, I think, in the end, eight points, maybe, something like that. And Jasmine did suggest that the election was stolen, that Republicans
Starting point is 00:45:27 rigged it in Tala Rico's favor, I guess. It's time we have an honest heart to heart, Jasmine. Jasmine, Republicans wanted you to win. No one rigged it for James. We wanted you to win because, and I know this is going to be hard to stomach, because you're a joke. We knew, we knew it would be a slaughter in the general election. You know, you're right. It was rigged, but it was rigged by your own party. The media establishment and the Democrats in office in America got behind the white guy. They decided he was their guy, and you weren't jazzy.
Starting point is 00:46:23 All the way to the late show, where they perpetrated a hoax on the American people that Donald Trump's FCC censored an interview between Stephen Colbert and James Tolarico, which did not happen. And that was his big breakthrough moment from name recognition on the national stage. You got the Bernie Sanders treatment. you got the Democratic Party picking its heir of parents, and it wasn't you, Jasmine. We wish it would have been you. We wish it would have been Jasmine Crockett, but it's not. And I feel confident that there will be someplace that you'll land solidly on your feet, perhaps the view. But it won't be as a senator from Texas.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Now, Will James Tala Rico? Here's what everyone's going to be tempted to do today. There are clips, and I posted a lot on my ex-feed of James Tolariko. Let's get a taste of the kind of things that James Tolariko has said. Dan, you've collected a couple of them. Let's start with the idea that Jesus's birth is a morality play about abortion. Before we go further, I want to acknowledge that our trans community needs abortion care too. No.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Defending trans Texans is something we have to do every day at the state capitol. And you better believe I'll be giving sermons on that, too. So when I use the word woman, it should not be understood as an exhaustive term, but rather as a lens through which to understand. Played the wrong one, didn't I? Yeah, it's the one about the end of the same. There's so many videos that I didn't cut. Your fault. You caught them all.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Well, let's just stick with that one. It's a good place to start. Trans genders need abortion care too. And then he is very careful to say, I want you to know I'm not using the word woman. What did he say? As an exhaustive term, meaning it has no real limitations or boundaries. It's not boxed in. What is a woman?
Starting point is 00:48:32 You would think that this would be enough. You really would. That clip, and maybe it will be. Maybe that one clip is enough. Go ahead, tinfoil. I can't say what I was going to say. You said it's not boxed in. Oh, but technically.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Okay. Never mind. You would think that, you know, this is like the Kamala Harris Day-Tham pronouns ad. You would think this right here cut into an ad would be enough to do it. But I'm here to tell you, this is my warning. This mealy-mouthed, every sentence has both a radical left thing paired with something that sounds common sense is going to work on a lot of people. I'm warning you. This is going to work on a lot of people. Let's try it again, Dan. Watch the way he explains that the Jesus story, the story of abortion with Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 00:49:30 But I say all this in terms of, in context of abortion, because before God comes over Mary and we have the incarnation, God asks for Mary's consent, which is remarkable. I mean, go back and read this in Luke. I mean, the angel comes down and asks Mary if this is something she wants to do. And she says, if it is God's will, let it be done. Let it be. Let it happen. So to me, that is an affirmation in one of our most central stories that creation has to be done with consent. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:10 So he uses that. By the way, that's going to work on some people. It's the tone, it's the style, it's the, I'm kind of confused. I was almost like, oh, that's interesting. Yeah, except, okay, you want to get down to the brass tax? Sure. By the very story, Mary has asked before conception. Yeah, that's good sense.
Starting point is 00:50:31 That's a lesson against rape. That's not about abortion. Was the deal that was struck there that Mary could get four months into it and decide, I'm out? You know, like, is that, is that? With that, he is communicating there. Mary consented, therefore she can have an abortion. But that's going to work, man. On a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:51:01 That's going to work on a lot of people. Here he is on, you know, he's a Presbyterian seminarian. Real quick. I mean you studied it, right? I have a question for you. Do you know what that event was called, Will? The enunciation. Wow, you did it incredible.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Thank you. With all your disabilities. Don't patronize me. Yeah, that's right. I'm just proud. I really, really trying to bring my disabilities out. Yeah, your protected class. Here he is, the Presbyterian seminarian on Buddhism and Hinduism.
Starting point is 00:51:41 I believe Jesus Christ reveals that reality to us. But I also think that other traditions reveal that reality in their own ways. with their own symbol structures. And I've learned more about my tradition by learning more about Buddhism and Hinduism and Islam and Judaism. And so I see these beautiful faith traditions as circling the same truth about the universe, about the cosmos. And that truth is inherently a mystery. You know, this is antagonistic to Christianity, to the concept of Christianity, where Jesus says, I am the way. He didn't say, I am the way, but hey, Buddhism's cool too, if that helps you get there. He uses the word tradition, my tradition.
Starting point is 00:52:24 So this is just my tradition in finding my way to the truth. You have another tradition in finding your way to the truth. This one, I think, actually can hurt him. Like, I think, I don't know. I don't know. But he's religious enough. I'm telling you. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:52:39 For the left, he's just religious enough. You know what I mean? Like, he says these progressive religiousness. That's true, true. The left is not a part of the equation. Right, right. You're right. The equation.
Starting point is 00:52:51 The fringe. The equation is... The middle. The equation is the middle. The middle. And the middle, I'm telling you that... Jasmine Crockett had no ability to appeal to the middle. None.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Zero. Right? Zero. I mean that literally. Zero. She might have gotten zero independence. She might have gotten zero moderates. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:53:18 This will work. This will work... He's religious enough for the middle. on some of them. Well, some of them. And perhaps some enough to swing an election. Let's play one more. This is on the southern border.
Starting point is 00:53:35 It's on the southern border. Our southern border should be like our front porch. There should be a giant welcome mat out front. He does say, see, I'm not going to do the same thing that Talariko does. I'm not going to stoop to his level. He does say that next with a lock on the front door. so but I don't care I don't think our southern border is our front porch
Starting point is 00:54:01 I don't think it should have a welcome mat on the front of it I don't think the southern border is the path to legal migration I think there are other paths there are legitimate paths so he is playing this is where he's playing the say something radical and add a common sense thing to it in one sentence when he says and a lock on the front door
Starting point is 00:54:22 with smart this is the yeah the border issue, again, like that one about trans people getting pregnant, I feel like that should be enough. Like, you cut those ads right there, and it should be enough. But he does enough stylistically that I don't know how much you should celebrate the fall today of Jasmine Crockett. Ken Paxton and John Cornyn are going to fight it in a runoff to see who goes up against James Tala Rico. A lot of money is going to be spent in the meantime. But even if Tala Rico,
Starting point is 00:54:57 Here's the real thing. And this is just politics. Even if Tala Rico loses and the Republicans have to spend a lot of money in the state of Texas, that's money that's not going to go to North Carolina or somewhere else. And you're going to have problems in the midterms because of that. But we are sad. We are sad. Jasmine's such a great content factory.
Starting point is 00:55:20 I don't know how we're going to do without her. You know, not in Congress, not in the Senate. We're truly going to miss you, Jasmine. We didn't rig it against you. We're going to miss you, Jasmine. All right, that's going to do it for us today here on Will Kane Country. We'll be back again tomorrow. Same time, same place.
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