Will Cain Country - Why Are Chinese-Linked Biolabs Operating on U.S. Soil? (ft. Rep. Kevin Kiley)
Episode Date: February 18, 2026Story 1: Neighborly disputes can be a headache, but rarely do they result in a potential public health emergency. For one Las Vegas neighborhood however, the improbable became reality. Congressman Kev...in Kiley (R-CA) joins Will to help decipher the mystery behind illicit biolabs in the western United States, each containing samples of highly infectious diseases, and operated by the same Chinese national.Story 2: Democratic Representative in Texas and Will Cain antagonist James Talarico (D-TX) made headlines this week after his interview with Stephen Colbert was pulled, making the bold claim that the Federal government personally ordered its cancellation. The evidence, and even some in his own party, would beg to differ. Will and The Crew unravel Rep. Talarico’s Machiavellian political plays in the wake of his interview’s cancellation, and explain the real reason why it was pulled.Story 3: Will and The Crew take a look at a recent study demonstrating a massive explosion in LGBT identity among younger generations, and hear Will out on his billion dollar restaurant idea. Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: Watch Will Cain Country!Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (@willcainshow), Instagram (@willcainshow), TikTok (@willcainshow), and Facebook (@willcainnews)Follow Will on X: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Imagine you live in a suburb, quiet suburb, but the house next door to you isn't just a neighbor.
It's a secret Chinese-funded lab filled with bioengineered vials of Ebola and HIV.
And when it's discovered, the CDC says, not our problem.
That's exactly what happened in California, and now recently, in Las Vegas, with Congressman Kevin
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The biggest fraud in politics just reaped massive rewards for once again lying to the American public, the wolf and sheep's clothing, the false prophet, the fake seminarian who is running for Senate in Texas together with the biggest failure in late night.
Stephen Colbert just manufactured a publicity stunt that raised $2.5 million and possibly the Democrat nominee for Senate.
And it all comes at the expense of our favorite Jazzy.
It all comes at the expense of Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett.
That's coming up a little bit here on Will King Country.
But secret Chinese bio labs next door.
It's now not happened just once but twice.
and owned by the same criminal connected to the CCP.
Congressman Kevin Kiley is a Republican member of the U.S. House of Representatives.
He represents California's third congressional district, and he joins us now.
Congressman, great to have you on the show.
Thanks for having me. Well, appreciate it.
Glad to have you.
A few years ago, I think many of us remember this story out of California,
small town in California, where, as described, a secret,
Chinese bio lab was discovered with hundreds of vials containing things like HIV and Ebola,
COVID-19, thousands of genetically engineered mice. And now, just recently, we've seen the same
man behind that lab discovered to have had one in a garage in Las Vegas. What's happening here?
Well, it's a good question, and we don't really know the answer to that. I mean, the initial lab that you
referred to discovered in Reedley, California, just kind of by happenstance, a local code inspector
saw like a hose that was coming out of the back of some abandoned building. And they go inside,
and there's all kinds of Chinese nationals in there wearing masks. There's the transgenic mice
that you refer to. And then it's just oozing with vials of these dangerous pathogens, you know,
malaria, HIV, COVID. There's even a freezer labeled Ebola. And yet the CDC, you refuse to
investigate this for months and months and months. California refused to investigate it for months and
months and months. When they finally showed up, they did a very shoddy job. They didn't even test
a lot of what was in these vials. Some of the vials had indecipherable code written on it.
As to what was in there, the CDC didn't bother to test it. Then there was even this freezer with
Ebola labeled on it. Granted, Ebola has a 50% fatality rate, and it's not particularly
transmissible, but we have reason to believe that in the Wuhan lab, they're doing gain in
function research to make it more transmissible. And the long, long story short, the biggest upshot
of this is that after in the house, we did an investigation, which I requested, they concluded that we
don't know how many other such labs are out there. And now, sure enough, we found that there was at
least one other one run by the exact same people. We'll start with why there's so little interest.
Why was there so little interest from local authorities? And then most concerningly, why was there
so little interest from the CDC? Well, the local authorities actually were very on top of it. And they
They were begging the CDC to become interested.
But, you know, this was the Biden CDC.
I don't know.
They had other priorities.
You know, this is the same CDC that decided that, you know, young children, toddlers
needed to wear masks during the COVID years and all of these other things that were
supposedly in the interest of public health.
And yet here you had an illegal lab sitting in the United States run by individuals who
are connected to the CCP.
There was the main guy who was this international fugitive.
It's like something out of a Tom Clancy novel, and he was getting payments from Chinese banks.
And by the way, they claimed that the whole purpose of this thing was to sell these test kits.
But in fact, they were just selling kits that were counterfeits from China.
And so that's one of the things that the House report concluded is we don't know what the heck they were up to
because there doesn't appear to be any legitimate purpose of the operations here.
It surely seems like an administration that was entirely focused on transmissible diseases
and the treatment or prevention of that through vaccine would be also interested in ensuring that it is not spread or spilled out of some lab in the middle of some small town in California.
That's completely perplexing why it wouldn't be a priority of the CDC.
Let's go into the details a little more of these labs.
So you mentioned it.
This man whose name is Jia Bay Zoo, also known as, aka Jesse Zoo, or AKA Jesse Zoo, or AKA,
David He was a fugitive, as I understand it, from Canada.
He was wanted for stealing $330 million in intellectual property from the United States of America.
He owned this warehouse, you described a little bit earlier, in California.
And now, just recently, in 2026, this home has been rated, a residential garage in Las Vegas,
and the property is registered to the same LLCs used by zoo in California.
California. So who is this man, Jesse Zhu? Yeah, so he has many aliases, which you just listed. Now, he is actually in federal custody right now. So sometime after the Reedly lab was discovered, he was indicted. However, he seems to have been running the Vegas lab from behind bars, and his associates and partner were the ones who were operating it, and it was registered, as you said, to the same LLC. And so this raises the question, like we now know there were two of these, how many more might be
out there with direct links to the CCP,
especially given we know they're trying to infiltrate the United States
in terms of buying up housing, buying up agriculture,
getting their materials into our classrooms.
And now we know they have secret labs that are hiding
and plain sight in our communities.
So I have a bill I've introduced on this
to try to find these labs, detect them, root them out.
And we really need Congress to act on this.
And how do we know, Congressman, that Zhu and these labs have some connection to the CCP?
Well, so Zhu has a long history with the CCP, which is documented in great detail in the report that the House Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party put together.
And so, you know, he left China some time ago, and he, you know, got up to the trouble that you mentioned in Canada, where he had this several hundred million dollar judgment against him.
And then at some point he fled Canada, was a fugitive in the end of the United.
United States and set up this lab. But all the while, while he is running this lab, we know that he was
receiving significant cash payments from banks in China. So he has this long history with the CCP,
and then he continues to receive payments from China while he's running the lab.
Okay, so he's receiving payments from China. Chinese banking is very much not independent from the
CCP. Now, you stated to me that the reason for existence of these labs that they maintain,
was that they were testing and selling COVID-19 testing kits.
And yet that wouldn't, I would assume, require you to be maintaining bottles and vials of malaria and HIV and Ebola, just COVID-19.
But weirdly as well, you said they weren't actually developing COVID-19 kits.
They were buying COVID-blackmail COVID-19 kits from China, which, by the way, if that were the case as well, you would expect the money flow to be going from.
from America to China, not China, to zoo and his labs back in America?
Yes, no, exactly right.
So that's why the report that the House did concluded that there's no legitimate purpose of these labs.
There's not even any criminal profit-driven purpose of these labs.
And so that raises the question, why are they there?
What is being planned?
Why do we have some of the most dangerous pathogens in existence filled in hundreds of vials?
Why do we have a freezer labeled Ebola?
and why do there now appear to be many of them?
And what, if I wanted to go into my garage tomorrow and begin to, for whatever reason,
warehouse these incredibly dangerous pathogens at Hollywood's made movies about wreaking havoc
on society and creating the original pandemic, if I wanted to do so, is there anything to stop
me from doing that? Can I just go on the internet and buy Ebola?
Well, there are licensure requirements. So that's why these labs were at least.
That's why the FBI has rated them.
But the problem is we don't have the oversight that's needed in order to detect them where they exist.
So we're trying to close that gap in this legislation I'm doing with Representative Costa by, for example, having reviewable logs from those who sell these dangerous pathogens so we can see who they're actually selling them to and establishing a centralized sort of clearinghouse or strike force at the federal level so that we can see who they're actually selling them to and establishing a centralized sort of clearinghouse or strike force at the federal level so that we can
don't have this situation we saw in Readley where the local officials are begging for help
and the CDC just shrugs it off.
All right.
So if I'm reading between the lines, what you're telling is, yes, Will, you can go on line
in Ebola or HIV from a seller.
That seller might require that I have a license.
Don't know what kind of enforcement is there is for that license.
And there's no record keeping, you're telling me, from these sellers of these pathogens
to show any type of enforcement.
that I am the one who bought these pathogens.
Right. Certainly not any kind that is reviewable, you know, by regulators at the federal level.
So we, if we have all that data, then, okay, we can see, gee, this is odd. There's all of these pathogens going to Vegas,
or all of them going to, to Reilly. And we're also looking to get, you know, a better system for actually keeping track of all these, of the high containment labs that are in existence.
And so what do we suspect in the end, Congressman, this is about?
I don't know if Zhu has sang while he's in federal custody, but what do we suspect this is about?
It's easy to let our minds run into the worst case scenario, and you kind of alluded to it,
that China is putting into place the ability to weaponize pathogens right here on our home soil.
And certainly that shouldn't be laughed at or dismissed after what we saw and what we suspect was going on with COVID.
at a minimum gain of function research that leaked out of a lab at a maximum,
potentially exploring the weaponization of COVID-19 from a lab in China.
So what do we presume was going on here in America?
Well, I think we have to presume, you know, the absolute worst.
Like, I can't think of a lot of, you know, innocent explanations for why you have secret
bio labs connected to the CCP that are oozing with some of the most dangerous pathogens
on Earth and operating illegally.
And so that's why, you know, I gave a speech on the floor of the House a few days ago,
saying that we absolutely need to take urgent action here.
And we need to figure out what the whole, what the scale of this operation is and what its purpose is.
Because as I mentioned before, like if you look at something like Ebola, 50% fatality rate,
if they're able to, you know, use gain of function research to make that more transmissible,
then that were to somehow, you know, get out.
we're talking about an absolute public health catastrophe.
So I frankly, I'm disappointed that there wasn't greater urgency when we introduced our legislation
after the first lab was discovered.
And now that there's a second lab, I think that, you know, we absolutely need to do everything
we possibly can to make sure there aren't others out there.
All right.
Just a few more questions, which may exceed your particular knowledge of the facts in these cases.
when we raid a lab, whether or not that be in California, several years ago or now in the past month in Las Vegas,
I'm sure that we don't just find the presence of these deadly pathogens, but we find equipment that suggests what they were doing with these pathogens.
So do we have some insight?
Like, what were they? I mean, gain of function.
I believe I'm not an expert on this.
It's a fairly sophisticated and complicated process of scientific experimentation.
Did they have the equipment for that? Were the other people arrested in lab codes? People with
that level of expertise? I mean, there are any other indication of from the garage, you know,
other than having these pathogens, what they were doing with the pathogens?
Yeah, great question. So the FBI has rated it and that's being analyzed right now.
We know that they had sort of the industrial equipment involved in, you know, in manufacturing them
and storing them and everything else, you know, the freezers and whatnot. The same
same sort of items they had in the Readley lab.
We also know in the Readley lab they had, you know, they were genetically modifying these mice
in order, for example, to be able to carry the COVID virus.
That was one of the horrifying things they found when they go in is these, they found all
of these mice, a lot of dead mice actually that are in the lab.
I mean, it's like some sort of horror scene.
So, you know, unfortunately in the first case, we didn't get all the testing that we needed
in the Readley lab, but I do know, or I'm at least very confident that this has been taken
a lot more seriously by the authorities this time around.
All right. Final question. Is there anybody opposed to your bill? Is there anybody that thinks this is
a conspiracy, that this is hyperventilating, this is xenophobia, this is unnecessary?
Any opposition? Not that I've heard. And, you know, the representative who's authoring it with me
is Jim Costa, who's a Democrat, has bipartisan support. I've seen a number of other members
from California and Nevada come out in favor of it. So the House,
just needs to step up and move this bill quickly.
Like this is not one of those pieces of legislation.
We can just, you know, have a multi-year process and slowly move it along.
Like, this is an area where we need to act now to protect Americans.
Incredibly, incredibly scary.
Congressman Kevin Callie, we appreciate you jumping on with us today and hanging out with us from California.
Thank you.
Thanks for having me.
There you goes, Congressman Kevin Callie.
Two days, Dan, tinfoil Pat, with us here today as well.
We'll help you having a good Wednesday.
and with Wednesday comes the exposure of one of the biggest frauds in politics.
And that is state representative James Talarico of Texas.
I don't expect that many of you know the name James Talariko,
but I expected in the past 24 hours his name recognition has increased.
Why?
Because James Talariko was scheduled to go on the last.
late show with Stephen Colbert Monday night. Colbert does not air an interview with Talarico,
who is running for Senate against Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett to be a Democrat senator from
the state of Texas. Colbert and Tala Rico upload their interview to YouTube and say that the FCC,
Brendan Carr, under President Donald Trump, shut down Tala Rico's interview with Stephen Gulpair to
silence James Talleyco. That's the exact words that were used by Talleyico, that Donald
Trump wants to silence him because he is afraid that Tala Rico will turn Texas blue.
Now, this is how Tala RICO and Colbert framed this entire manufactured drama on CBS.
James Tallerico.
Now, here's the thing. I don't usually see.
say this to a guest, but if people are watching this right now, it's because they found us online, on YouTube.
I did an act of the show that's on tonight explaining why. It's not the first time you've caused some drama.
FCC opening probe into the view after appearance by Tala Rico. Do you mean to cause trouble?
I do. I think that Donald Trump is worried that we're about to flip Texas.
Now, Talariko with his smile, all five foot eight of him, and his fake Christianity,
come out there and wrap fraudulence in the prettiest of wrapping paper.
But underneath the wrapping paper, when you open the package, is nothing but a fairly common fraud,
only uncommon in its ability to sell itself as genuine.
He is a good snake oil salesman, but he is still selling you, snake oil.
He is a liar.
He is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
The FCC did not shut down this interview with Tala Rico and Stephen Colbert.
They did not shut down this interview.
No matter how many times you say that, the Brooklyn brunch crew, will not believe me.
No matter how much evidence you provide, they refurb.
to know because they want to believe that Donald Trump is an authoritarian and in rides your white
knight.
And make no mistake, he is a white knight.
Oh, boy, is Tala RICO white.
He's so white, he's not black.
He's so white, he's not Jasmine Crockett.
And that's the point in the end.
The end is the ever-loving racism of the left.
Oh, they love to run out their minorities as emblems and shields,
but the true knight carrying the shield has to be white.
Long history of that with Democrats.
And here comes Tolariko.
You see, what really happened is CBS's lawyers provided guidance to Stephen Colbert
that if, in fact, you do put on Tala Rico, the fairness doctrine of a federally regulated and licensed airwaves,
such as CBS, different than cable, different than online, requires that you give his political opponents equal airtime.
They said you might want to visit that.
You might want to look at that.
Have you given equal airtime?
Oh, not to Ken Paxton.
Oh, not to John Cornyn.
Maybe at some point you might need to look at your potential Republican opponents.
But in this case, what they were talking about was the Congresswoman.
the other Democrat, Jasmine Crockett.
And no matter what the Brooklyn brunch crew or anybody else in the left wants to believe,
they're going to have to, in the end, call not just Will Cain a liar.
They're also going to have to, and careful now, boys,
because you're really treading on thin ice when it comes to race,
call Jasmine Crockett a liar.
Here is Jazzy.
We did receive information suggesting that the federal government did not.
shut down this segment. Number one. That is my understanding that the federal government did not,
didn't shut this down. And we will do an official statement once we get another official
statement that we anticipate is going to be coming. What's she saying? The federal government
did not shut down this interview. Hmm. Hmm. Weird. Weird racial things going on from Democrats.
Rico manufactured this entire fake crisis.
And why did they do so?
Because Tala Rico's name recognition is in the dirt.
Nobody knows who he is.
Chief among people, President Donald Trump, who would not have called Brendan Carr to ask about
James Tull Rico.
President Donald Trump doesn't know James Talarico because nobody knows James Tallerico.
Oh, but this manufactured bullshit has definitely raised his name recognition and so much
so that it's also raised money for Tala Rico.
$2.5 million raised in 24 hours
says the official account of James Tala Rico
after the FCC banned our Colbert interview.
The fraud and liar characterizes it
after it's been clarified by both the lawyers at CBS,
the head honchos at CBS,
and Jasmine Crockett,
that the FCC did not ban his interview with,
Colbert. But you see in the end, there is no tonic. There is no remedy. There is no anti-venom for snake
oil. And the snake oil salesman here doubles, doubles, and quadruples down on his fraudulence.
It's the same trick. And I have seen some people, because I posted about this, this particular
man does make my skin crawl. And people say, me, this is Will But hurt over the fact that
Tala RICO owned him on his shown show. I say to you, show me the evidence.
of where he owned me on my own show.
Show me the evidence.
Show me the clip.
You see, what you're going to do
is you're going to do the same thing
that you're doing with this story.
You're like those
sheepherders in Austria
that stand atop the mountain tops
yodeling to one another.
You're only yodeling the rhyme
that you heard from the other mountain top.
And the original yodel
is James Tolariko,
lying about what actually occurred.
James Tolariko, in my case,
and said I cut him off and ran from a rhetorical question and said I had to end the interview
in the interview James Tolerico for 10 minutes. He asked me a rhetorical question, which,
by the way, I did answer. He edited it out. And then we had a nice conversation about one day
grabbing barbecue in Texas. He went to the internet, just like he did in this case. He cut a
deceptive clip. He framed it fraudulently and put it out there to raise his snake oil salesman
profile. There's a lot of politicians that are liars. There are a lot of politicians that are
narcissists. It makes them roughly a dime a dozen. But there's something unique about the sliminess
of this man comes in cloaked in the robes of a priest and tells you he's here to save the
soul of America. An atheists are as good as Christians. Words of James Tolariko.
The Bible speaks nothing, he says, to Colbert of abortion.
or gay marriage.
It's just about being kind to thy neighbor and loving God.
Though really, the Bible says nothing about marriage.
Oh, really, the Bible says nothing about murder.
It's really interesting, James.
The Bible says nothing about guns as well.
Does that mean one is allowed to use a gun to kill the innocent?
Hey, the Bible really says nothing about guns.
It's an intellectual fraud, a moral fraud, a spiritual fraud,
and a political fraud that you're looking at in the state of Texas.
And he may very well see his star rise, rise high enough that he will, at a career ceiling,
become the next Beto O'Rourke, just shorter, just a stumpier, more saccharine version of Beto O'Rourke.
Good job, Democrats.
You picked Beto 2.0, 2.0, fun-sized.
All right, what else do we have today?
Tinfoil Pat, two a days, Dan.
What else do we have here today?
We got that
God, that
That's scorching
The truth is
This guy didn't piss me off by coming on to my show
And debating me vigorously
Hell
I've had plenty of Democrats come on
And debate me vigorously
And by the way, I've lost some points along the way
I don't bat a thousand
Because nobody does
There's been some Democrats come on
And make some very interesting points
and good points. For the record, James Talarico was none of those. He didn't make any good points.
He wasn't interesting. This was when he and other Democrats had fled the state of Texas to the state of Illinois, to avoid a vote.
What really pissed me off about Tala Rico was that he was a liar after the fact. And by the way, for the record, I'll tell you this. I'm not going to say names.
He's not the only one who has done that. And if you really want to know how to make me mad, individually, personally, me mad, it is to be spineless.
and to be a weenie.
There are people that have been on my show
on a regular basis,
and for whatever reason,
they felt the need to say something on X
about me.
And I consider that
spineless action.
And that's really the kind of one thing
I don't forgive.
I really don't.
I got a text yesterday from another,
one-time guest of this show
asking to come back on.
And I'm telling you,
the one thing you cannot do
is go and turn to your
require in the fraudulent of the internet, when you have all the opportunity in the world to come
directly to my face and say whatever it is you want to say. I have, have I ever said, no, I don't
want that person on my show. In fact, after this, I said to everybody, get Tala Rico back on my show.
I said, after he lied on the internet, I said book him, get him back on my show. In fact, if you
want to know the true behind the scene story, I had knocked down, drag out fights about that.
I told everyone, I want him on my show. And I was told there's no reason to have him.
I said, yes, there is reason to have him back because of my integrity.
I want this man to face me and face the truth.
Guess what happened in the end?
I won. I won. I get to have him on my show.
Why is James Tilarico not been back on the Will Cain show?
Because James Alrico hasn't expected his invitation back on the Will Cain show.
The one thing that I do not forgive is cowardice on the Internet.
when you have the opportunity to have strength face to face.
One-sided.
That's the one thing I don't forgive.
It's the one thing I do not like.
I think you should go get barbecue with him and shoot it for digital.
Just sit down, have some barbecue, you know, talk it out.
The thing is, Dan, if he had done this only to me, then I might be more interested in that,
because I am personally forgiving.
I truly am.
I love second chances.
I don't like this whole.
There's a lot of people right now that are really leaning into internet conflict as a weight of relevance.
I see it more and more, like constant fight.
And I don't like it.
I find it's food fight.
It's lunchroom BS.
But Tala Rico is not somebody at this point that I'd be interested having barbecue with because what I'm seeing is a tactic, Dan, a tactic of lying in fraudulence to gain further relevance.
You know, the fact that he did this is really the nail in the coffin.
because this is also more so than what he did with me, egregious and fraudulent.
I mean, I would be P-Oed if I were Jasmine Crockett.
He did this on the day of the opening of early voting.
Oh, yeah, this is about Donald Trump and the FCC.
Dude, you're getting played, brunch crew.
You're getting played.
And I know that doesn't matter to you because I think you want to be played.
I think you want to be played.
I think you don't care.
You like the sound of the music, even if it turns out to be a snake charm, and you are the snake in the basket.
You like the sound of the music.
And so, he's playing you.
And maybe he's a really good politician in the age of digital media.
But that's the thing.
You burn your bridges along the way.
You burn your bridges by being a fraud.
When you lead with a lie, people aren't interested in what you have to say afterward, even if it's the truth.
And so what truth could he give me over barbecue that I'm interested in after he's shown on multiple occasions that his character is to lead with a lie?
Running to the internet is wild after.
Keep your barbecue.
Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back on Will Kane country.
Just running to the internet to complain about something that happened to you.
You don't like it?
It doesn't make him unique.
It is truly that it makes, I guess, me unique that I particularly hate it.
I think everybody else likes it because then they get to do their internet thing.
People do it.
Everybody gets to sort of cultivate their own audience.
In their own life.
Fight and go back and forth.
And this is all the fakeness.
In the end, that's what's all about fakeness.
I just don't like fakeness.
Yeah, yeah, fine, Pat.
It's wrestling.
And there are elements of wrestling that I like.
But if I'm being honest with you, Patrick,
that's probably why I never really got fully into wrestling because I'm not really in to that.
I mean, if you're going to fake it, do it as good as Robert Duval.
Play a character and a real piece of...
The only reason we should go get, hang out with him is so you can see how tall you are next to him in a photo.
And then that photo would be great.
I'm not wrong.
I'm not wrong, right?
He reads super short.
He does.
Doesn't he read super short?
Is it not on the internet?
Let's put it before you AI this, let's put an over under.
I'm at 5-8.
I really am.
5-8, 5-9.
I don't know we'll find the information.
It might be swiped from the internet for this exact reason.
Go back to Colbert interview.
See how tall he is compared to Colbert.
Interesting.
And then we'll have Colbert's height.
Hold on, hold, hold.
Right.
Let's see.
Let's see.
James Tala Rico.
He's coming out.
He's coming out.
He's down the steps.
He looks fun-sized right there.
He's down a bit.
All right.
How tall is Stephen Colbert?
Same height?
Same height.
An inch, an inch shorter, inch or too shorter than Colbert?
I'm going to go.
Colbert's 511.
How tall is Colbert?
Allegedly, yeah.
So I would say
Tala Rico is about 5'9
tops.
I think Patrick makes a fair point
about allegedly.
I think that
actors and TV hosts
are in the same vein
as like cornerbacks
in the NFL.
Are you really six foot?
You know,
can't wait for the combine.
Every high school basketball bill
everyone was four inches taller.
Yeah, the combine's right around the corner.
Like, we're going to find about a lot of people lying about height.
Yeah.
I think cornerback is the biggest position of lies about height,
and that's the biggest revelation.
Because no one really cares how tall you're running back is.
You can get away with being short.
Quarterback and cornerback are the two.
But quarterback, it's only if you are like you just suggested, Patrick Vanderbilt's Diego Pavia,
if you're super short.
You know, like at this point, I think if you land anywhere from 6-1 to 6-6, 6, 6, you're good in the NFL as quarterback.
If you're 5-10 trying to pull off 6-1, you've got a problem.
Yeah.
Bryce Young.
Kyle Murray, yeah.
It's a big problem.
That ruined it.
I mean, Kyler Murray's fun size.
Nice player, but.
Have you guys seen, have you guys ever heard the diminishing return theory on quarterback height?
No.
That there is a height where it caps out and you don't want to be over that high.
Oh, yeah.
I learned this when I was at ESPN from several genomes.
Yeah, who's the long neck guy?
Yeah.
It's 6-7 though.
Really?
6-6, good, 6-7, bad.
Who's 6-6?
What, Cam Newton?
Yeah.
Like, who's been that tall?
Well, 6-5 is great.
Like, isn't Josh Allen's 6-5?
Brock Osweiler was the guy.
You remember Brock Osweiler that was on the edge?
He was 6-6 or 6-7, and that started the conversation.
Josh was too tall for a quarterback.
Joshown's what?
No, he's not.
There's no way.
He says six feet on the internet right now.
No, he's like six four or six five.
Yeah, yeah, if you scroll down further at six five.
Yeah, that's not right.
Yep, yep, yep.
Man, I don't trust Google.
Now double check Colbert, Colbert.
Yeah, Colbert is five, four.
Yeah, Colbert's five, too.
All right.
Enough.
Enough.
Enough, Tala Rico.
Tenfoil, Pat, you have a couple other stories of interest today,
including how many people today consider themselves
buy. You are an expert on this, I understand, Patrick. Tell us what it's like being by.
I mean to laugh so hard. I'm very confused right now. I have no idea what you're talking about.
Our bisexual expert, tinfoil pat. Oh. Not bisexual. We're going to expertise on this.
Yeah. Well, you know, one thing is, like, I've been married for a long time. I never understood
why people who are married
talk about being by
because I'm like, you're locked in.
It doesn't matter if you're by or straight or anything.
You're kind of locked in when you're married.
Not the pineapple people.
You know?
Well, that's a whole different.
That's a whole different thing.
But I'm like, they make it a big deal now about...
Pineapples?
Swingers.
Pineapples are swingers?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why?
Why pineapple?
Why?
Why is a pineapple?
Why is a pineapple?
You put them in a shopping cart or on your door, and then people know when they come over that they can broach that subject.
But I don't know why pineapple, though.
Come on.
Yeah, you put them on.
If you go on a cruise, if you go on a cruise and you see a pineapple on a door, you know what's up.
So I've heard.
I don't know.
I'm just kind of rack in my mind to see if we've ever said, would you like some pineapple?
Yeah.
Someone took it the wrong way.
Wow, Will.
I didn't know Will was like that.
Interesting.
Huh.
Yes, we will.
Bring him a pineapple pie.
More and more people bisexual, according to a new study.
23% of people under the age of 29, 18 to 29-year-old identify as LGBTQ plus.
One in four people, 18 to 29, identify as LGBTQ plus.
shocking. Come on. Just for a moment.
Sure. Consider that. One in four. One in four.
All right. Why? Well, primarily because
16%, so almost 60% of that 23%, so 16% of the total, 18 to 29 year old population,
considers themselves bisexual. There are really interesting trends on the growth of
transgender, it's equal to gay and lesbian among 18 to 29, as many people consider themselves
transgender as they do gay or lesbian. But the real winner here is bisexual. And that leads
some really interesting questions about why young people are identifying as bisexual. And I don't
think it's disconnected from the rising rate of people of the same age group who consider themselves
transgender. Now, earlier today on our call, you guys forwarded the idea that, you know, it's a cop out,
it's an identity, it's the goth kid version of gen alpha and gen Z. To be different.
That it's a way to be different. It's a way to be special. I think there's something more. I really do.
Because another study that I've seen that I find interesting is the falling rate of sex,
among young people.
They are not having sex.
We've also talked about
and everybody understands
the falling rate of marriage,
but it's not just marriage.
It's not as though
these young people are out there
living it up.
That's a real thing.
Like hedonism.
Like hedonism.
Yeah.
Poles and...
Yeah.
Wow, interesting.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sex is falling among young people.
And drinking.
Maybe that's why...
Okay, so let's explore that.
Drinking and sex are falling.
bisexual and transgender are rising.
So, I think this is connected to Japan.
I think Japan is the canary in the coal mine.
Let's just blame Japan for everything.
Yeah, I'm blaming Japan.
It's our own fault.
Japan is the canary in the coal mine.
Marriage has been falling in Japan.
Sex has been falling in Japan.
And people are isolated and disconnected, addicted the video games, Korea as well, for the record.
And they are living lonely existence.
And when you live that lonely existence, you begin to project your life through the screen.
You only live vicariously through your scroll, through porn, through projection.
And when you fall into that world, I think what you're falling into is, yes, increasing levels of sexual deviance.
You have to chase the hide, chase the dopamine, get edgier the entire time.
So what you're scrolling, what you're watching, how you're self-pleasuring gets increasingly
edgy, increasingly deviant, increasingly marginal.
Specific.
But you're never actually crossing the bridge.
You're actually never, ever becoming sexual.
So what you're talking about is an asexual population identifying, and in some cases
living out, more radical sexual costumes.
They're not actually doing anything.
bisexual, they're not actually doing much transgender, but they're watching it, they're seeing it,
they're struggling with their lonely identity. This is my theory. I think that the rise in transgender
and the rise of bisexual is directly correlated to the rise in asexual and disconnected young people
in this country. That's what I truly think is going on. I think it's a confused, lonely,
disconnected, isolated generation.
It's true. I mean, no one's going out and actually talking to each other.
So how are you going to be intimate with someone if you can't even have a conversation with them?
And the internet gives these kids everything they really need for dopamine and something that's,
you know, exciting and different. You could just get that anywhere on your phone, not even at home
on a computer. You could walk around. We used to be experts because we read, you know, Playboy
articles when we were kids.
And now they, and we went out, you know,
now they have everything you need to know
about everything. Playboy.
Yeah. Well, you didn't have Playboy?
That was G-rated. No.
You're a penthouse guy?
My point of porn. Dang. You had to, you had to
chase it deeper, man. That's the whole point.
In Victoria's Secret Cataloges.
So that's my argument. I feel
like things are hypersexualized
and we're seeing more and more sexualization
at a younger age.
that is also having an impact.
I do think that the seclusion issue is one.
But, like, you had to work for it.
You'd look at that screen, the blurry screen.
It's like, oh, I think I see a nipple.
Yeah.
But it's like, you know, good luck now.
It's everywhere.
Yeah, that's crazy.
But Patrick, I don't disagree with you.
Everything is hypersexualized and it's leading to asexualization.
Everything is hypersexualized and at your fingertips and you don't have to work for it.
Therefore, they don't have to have real human interaction.
In the end, they don't even have to have real sex.
And so they just live in this virtual world and live vicariously through the scroll on their screen.
And while they do so, that becomes edgier and edgier and edgier.
Like, I was joking a moment ago.
But edgier to Playboy meant Penthouse.
To your point, Dan.
Edgier to Penthouse meant Hustler.
But it didn't mean Playgirl.
It didn't mean whatever was that version.
But that, come on, I'm speaking in generalities that are truths.
but that
that spread
that centerfold
is literally a thumb scroll
away now
it's literally right there
you're not making a choice
to go into 7-11
and getting
I don't even know
the names
what were some other names
besides Playgirl
I don't even know
you would know Patrick
what was what were those other ones
like
hump maybe
I don't know
it just makes me uneasy
it makes me very uneasy
he's very uncomfortable
with this
but you had to do something man
and you were making
a conscious choice
choice. You were making a conscious choice and you were going to the cashier and you're going,
yes, I will. You know, and when you cross those, those, well, if your older brother had those things,
I'm talking about when you continued to ramp it up, you know, if you were going to continue to ramp
it up. And now the ramp up is just a thumb scroll away. To your point, Patrick. So yeah,
hyper-sexualized, hyper-increasing devences and perversion. And yet at the same time, it not
manifesting into anything except for a school shooting on occasion.
But I'll say this.
My sister is a teacher in the high school system from where we're from.
And she does say it's a lot for attention.
Like they do the pronouns and the bisexual and they want to be transitioning because it is like a being different thing.
So there is an element to that.
And she sees it every day.
And it's very disturbing because they end up changing from freshman year back to being like, well, that was stupid.
That was freshman year.
Now I'm a normal kid, sophomore year.
Well, there's an example of this.
I think it's more in the mind of females,
but there's a Jojo Siwa.
I don't know if you know who she is.
Unfortunately, yes.
But she was like, I guess, a Disney star.
Yeah.
And she, she like was all in on doing the LGBT thing.
And she's like, I'm gay.
And just recently she's been in a heterosexual relationship.
And she's like, you know,
I was kind of brainwashed and, you know.
all I want to do is get married and be a mom and everything.
So still very young.
Bisexuality is a bit of a cop-out too.
And now...
Sorry.
Careful, Dan.
What?
I know.
Brunch Cruz is like, what the hell, man?
How can bisexuality be a cop-out when we live in the age of binary?
I don't even have to choose your...
You don't even have to identify as a specific gender, much less a specific sexuality.
That's true.
Bisexuality is...
Fulfluid.
Bisexuality is vanilla.
it's it's gap it used to be you know people are well beyond people are well beyond gap you know
so like it's old name we're down across the street you guys are still at the mall we're over there
we're over across the street a little bit of hot topic at the parlor you know let's take quick break
but continue this conversation including how you can't sue buffalo wild wings for boneless wings not being wings
on Will Cain Country.
Welcome back to Will Cain Country,
hanging out with tinfoil Pat and two a days, Dan,
here working through some of the most important topics in the news.
All right, for a story that is very near and dear to Tinfoil Pat's heart,
post on X by Rob Friend Update.
Court says boneless wings is not a deceptive name for Buffalo Wild Wings to use,
even though they are essentially chicken nuggets,
and not deboned wings.
Quote, his complaint has no meat on its bones.
You guys want to know a story?
Do you want to know something fascinating?
Is it gross?
Patrick thought boneless wings were boneless wings.
He thought they were deboned wings.
How were they that size then?
Did you think they had a guy in the back?
Did you think they had a guy at the factory
or in the back of Buffalo Wild Wings
with a contraption pulling the bones out of the wings?
I literally never thought
it. I mean, I've seen people do it, but I've never
thought about it. It's like a seedless
watermelon. Like, I'm like, I don't know
how the hell they do it. I just know it's done.
It's just there. Seedless watermelon.
You think they were growing chickens without bones?
Like a seedless watermelon?
Listen, I grew up in the 90s.
We had a lot of urban legends.
Swapping around. Crazy stuff.
Yeah.
The chicken with the bone. The chicken factory in East Texas.
Like an octopus. In this wing,
we got our broilers.
over here, and they're all just laying flat on the ground.
We got our boneless chickens.
Is that where you make?
Is that...
Do they go to Buffalo Wildlings?
Primarily.
We got some smaller markets as well.
It is, I did look it up at what it is.
And splayed on the ground with no bones.
Yes.
It should.
Doesn't make sense.
The visualization of that is insane.
Seedeless watermelons.
I think that was a worse explanation than when I thought you thought there was a dude whose job was deboning the wings.
Pulling out the seeds of watermelons.
Oh, man.
They shouldn't call them wings, though.
Well, apparently you can't sue.
You can't sue.
You think it's deceptive advertising?
Yeah.
Obviously.
Because they're chicken breasts.
They're the breasts of the chicken.
I completely agree.
And that's the thing.
Yeah, they're probably breast.
They are.
right? Because it's white meat.
Almost, almost.
You looked it up.
Yeah.
What are your other white meat options?
You got the breast, the thigh is dark meat, the wing is dark meat, right?
Isn't the wing dark meat?
No, the wing's white.
The drumstick is...
Wings white.
The wing is white.
Except around the tendon.
The leg and the thigh are dark.
All right, yeah.
It does make sense.
Can I tell you guys my million-dollar business idea?
I'm going to tell you and the thousands listening and watching right now.
Because I'm not sure I'm ever going to get to it.
but I want to do it.
Raising canes comes along and goes,
you know what, those McDonald's chicken nuggets or the Chick-fil-A nuggets,
they're really popular.
What if we only do the nuggets?
What if we only do the tenders?
And some guy goes, should we do hamburgers too?
No, just the tenders.
Should we do fried chicken as well?
No, just the tenders.
And everybody's like, huh, interesting concept.
and they crush it. Raising Cains is everywhere.
Where in the past, you would have thought you have to have ten things on your menu,
God bless Raising Cain said, no, we're doing one thing.
And I don't really know what Face Patrick is making right now, but I've never going somewhere with this.
It's not a unique business model.
There's literally Guthrie's...
Well, let me ask you this, Patrick.
There are...
Okay, and Bojangles?
No, no.
You got Bojangles in the South?
No.
Well, do they have the same model as Raising Cains?
Very similar.
So chicken tenders, those ones you just named are chicken tenders pretty much exclusively and primarily?
Yes.
Zaxby's has a few more menu items, but in general, it's like, Duthreys is probably the first one.
I think they were founded back in the 60s.
Anyway, but continue.
Well, the menu specialization.
I agree with you.
The menu specialization restaurant is pretty fascinating.
And I've always thought that was fascinating.
That Keynes, in my mind, pioneered the one thing that everybody was offering or choosing on the menu and doing away, which is a great cost-effective control thing, right?
Do away with the things that people aren't ordering.
They don't need variety.
They just need the sauce.
So let's give them the fries.
Let's give them the wing, the tenders, and let's give them the sauce.
Well, here's something that everybody loves, okay?
I think that I'm not suggesting it's on the same level as chicken tenders, but everybody loves fish and chips.
Who doesn't love fish and chips?
You go to a bar, ooh, they have fish and chips, and then you make a choice about whether or not you're going to be healthy that day.
Me and Connor don't like it.
And it's, oh, come on.
A good old white fish, you know, whatever they used in these days, tilapia.
I'm from New England, too, and I don't like it.
It's delicious.
Yeah.
It's delicious.
And Patrick, it's delicious for the same reason chicken tenders are delicious.
Because all you're getting is the seasoning and the batter, and the truth is the fish and the chicken don't have a ton of flavor.
So you use a sauce, and it gives you the flavor that you want to go along with your seasoning and your batter.
And that's the end of the story.
And fish is good for you.
And fish is even a more, if you do it right, it is a more blank slate flavor than chicken tenders.
Like you eat a good fish and chips.
you barely even taste the fish.
It's easier to mess it up.
It's kind of melt in your mouth.
And that's probably true.
That's probably true.
Back in the day, you know, Long John Silver's killed it until Congress came along, declared
the Long John Silver's meal, the most unhealthy meal in America.
Where is your fish and chips raising canes?
That's what I want to know.
Let's go start that, right?
I agree.
Just fish and chips.
Just fish and chips.
and chips.
Was this England?
We'll have a little slaw and some hush puppies.
And that's it.
Now, I grant you, fish and chips does not sound as good at the drive-thru as a box of chicken tenders.
It doesn't seem right to eat fish and chips in your car.
I'll give you that.
So that's a hole in the game here.
Because I'm going to bet Raising Cains was really crushing it through the drive-thru.
I have no drive-through.
Tell me there's not something.
Tell me I don't have something there.
Tell me I don't have something there.
We have a place called Captain D's, which is kind of like Long John Silver's here.
But like the quality is not that good.
We had Captain D's.
The service isn't that good.
Heck yeah, we had Captain D's.
Depends where the store is because in Connecticut and where we're from, those are just, you know, every other store is a fried fish store.
So we have those mom and pop everywhere.
But not, yeah, but I'm not talking about the mom part.
I'm an American capitalist.
I'm Walmart.
I'm ready to go in and mass market this baby.
Midwest to the way.
kill mom and pop west coast i think i think what the what the deal is here and we could go to a
colleague of yours and ours really um so like guy fierry has created guys chicken guy which is his
his chicken concept which is quick service one of our colleagues happens to be gordon ramsie now
he loves fish and chips what if gordon ramsie did a quick service fish and chips you know franchise
I got to get something out of this deal.
You could sell it as religious, too.
I got to get something out of this deal.
I know.
You know.
You brokered the idea.
Fridays during Lent.
So, I mean, like, come on, Fox.
Let's get this going.
You like it, Patrick?
I love it.
These New Englanders don't like it.
You like it?
Nah.
Yeah, I like it too.
It's trash.
You do your thing, Dan.
Somewhere out there, there's somebody that wants a flannel and grays.
Well, I.
So.
Flannel and.
Flanel and Garage Band Shop.
Well, we, my ex-girlfriend's brother-in-law started this business with his friend that I thought would not work.
And it turned out to be a thing called Luke's Lobsters, which is huge.
So it's just fast food lobster, which is insane.
And it's huge.
I've been to Luke. Is Luke's crushing it?
Crushing it.
And I thought that would not work, but it worked.
Well, I'm telling you, the single item shop is pretty interesting concept.
The lobster thing is difficult because it's so expensive.
I went to a luke's and it's expensive.
Yeah.
And you don't get full.
So you get yourself a lobster roll.
You're $15 in or something like, $17 in.
Probably.
And you're still hungry.
This economy.
Having worked at Chick-Fleigh like three times in my life.
You did?
Yeah.
Having like really good customer service in this day and age at like a quick service restaurant is like a game changer.
If you go single item,
or single item focused with great service and like just clean a clean restaurant like you would kill everyone i think
uh it would be over i think patrick's gonna start a potato skins restaurant and uh it'll be a really good
just potatoes like everything potatoes some of the executives want to rename patrick potato skin pat
no potato skins for pat today during the show that i can tell there might be some below i can't eat
anything will don't say we didn't do anything we're talking about food and i'm starving
Ash Wednesday, baby.
Why, Lent?
Did you give up food for Lent?
It's, well, Ash Wednesday, you're not allowed to eat anything.
I'd never heard that.
I've been Catholic my entire life.
Are you fasting?
Yes.
Well, you're a lot of meal and two snacks.
So if you do eat, you can't go to heaven.
Is that the thing?
That's right.
Dang.
That sucks.
I'm in trouble.
Dan, you better stop with your blasphemy.
Hey, I was just asking a question.
I don't know.
Sacrilegious here.
I want to fast, Patrick.
I want to do that.
I've been reading about fasting.
I want to do it.
They say it's really good for you.
Intermittent.
Really good for you.
No, like a for real.
Like a 24-36-hour fast.
Not intermittent.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
They say it's really good for you.
Your whole body resets.
Because I don't want to deal with you on a fast.
Your whole body resets.
I'm not dealing with you while you're fasting.
You could, there's a guy out there named Coach Dugs.
He's a big guy.
Bars, or a Big Cat, used him as his profile pick during, when he was, during COVID, when he was playing NCAA.
And he actually went on one of those fasts.
And it's like, you got to be careful because you got to make sure that you're, you're, like, taking in extra electrolytes and stuff.
Or else you, like, just really destroy yourself.
But some to think.
Dan, do you think I'm moody?
Am I the moodiest person that you work with right now?
No.
I think Patrick...
Go ahead. There's no bad answer.
I don't know.
It's like one...
Go ahead.
Don't lie, Talarico.
Don't lie, Tala Rico.
Be honest.
This is your chance.
Be strong.
I'm by Polars.
I think it's 1A, 1B, you and Patrick.
1A1B.
You know what's funny about that?
Yeah.
It's pretty even.
So we've taken personality tests like a few years ago.
You are E&TP.
I am I NTP.
And so the E and I.
I are just like you're extroverted, I'm introverted. Everything else is the same. So it's probably
explains why we're so moody. I'm pretty even cool. Yeah. I don't think I am so moody, Patrick.
Scott, one to ten, Scott. Just hold up your fingers. How moody am I? Ten is super moody. One is
totally chill. Oh, you give me a three. Well, if you don't have your pouches, uh, it's a different
story. No line around here, Talarico. Yeah, you have to have, uh, nicotine. He said I'm a three.
Has you seen it without nicotine?
Well, Scott's lying.
Because I have.
That was one time.
That was withdrawals.
That wasn't moodiness.
That was withdrawals.
And that was different.
That's true.
All right.
Don't say we didn't do anything for you on this Ash Wednesday.
We gave you a whole new business idea.
Go become a billionaire.
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