Will Cain Country - Why Charlie Kirk’s Medal of Freedom Matters More Than You Think (ft. Link Lauren)

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

Story 1: In ‘Quick Takes,’ Will and The Crew analyze clips of Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-TX) to determine how much of the way she presents herself is an act. They also expose Senator Bernie Sander's (I-VT) support of Palestinian prisoners and former President Barack Obama voices his support of Democratic "rising star," and Will Cain antagonist, Texas State Representative James Talarico. Story 2: Will is joined by Former Senior Aide to Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Host of 'Spot On with Link Lauren,' Link Lauren to get his take on the unflattering photo of President Trump on the cover of Time Magazine, comparing it to photos of presidents that align more with the editorial board’s political views. Link also defends Charlie Kirk being posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom and reacts to New York Attorney General Letitia James harboring criminal relatives in her Virginia home. Story 3: Will and The Crew lighten things up as Fox News Digital Columnist David Marcus fires back at jokes about his height, before Tinfoil Pat proves his height in a long-awaited reveal. Then, Will reacts to James Franklin being fired as Penn State’s Head Coach just a few games into the season and shares his predictions for who will take his place. Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (@willcainshow), Instagram (@willcainshow), TikTok (@willcainshow), and Facebook (@willcainnews)Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠@WillCain   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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into a big show where we've got the crew with us. We've got tin foil pat. We got two at A's Dan. And we have questions after our visit from Jeffrey Mead about everybody's height, the validity, the certainty, the proof of everyone's height. We're going to get into that a little bit later here in the country, but let's get started first with story number one. Today, Charlie Kirk will be honored at the White House by President Donald Trump. He will be awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, a service and an award ceremony that will kick off as scheduled around 4 p.m. Eastern time from the White House will include luminaries, notable figures, and a tribute to Charlie Kirk. carrying that live for you today on the Will Kane show. But as we get ready for a day of remembrance for Charlie Kirk, we are going to keep you up today on everything happening in the

news. And for that, we bring in not just two a day's Dan, but the most exciting man in broadcasting. The number one team in the ruthless country fantasy football league. It feels like licking your finger and sticking it into a socket, get ready for the ride. It is tinfoil pat the man the myth the legend that pronounces the word posthumously in his own particular and unique broadcasting style luckily we're not talking about that story in quick takes will so we're to start off with one of our favorite people representative jasmine crockett who had this to say about this government shutdown No, you are not confused

You are a lawmaker You understand how this works And, you know, Republicans don't know how to count But here's the thing You know, when you're in a legislative body You control everything So if the government shuts down, it's on y'all So it's on Republicans

The government shut down And she also had this to say about Giving an interview Yes No, it's okay Just hard to know Never know. Never know.

It's like Jeffrey Mead. It's just hard to. Never know. It's like Jeffrey Mead. Is he done? Yeah. Is he in the middle? Is he just getting started?

We'll do the full screen in a minute. Go ahead. Go ahead. Oh. No, I'm just going to burn your own. I'm going to win. No, we're not doing that. Just give it right to Will.

Let's go with the host here. Yep. Go ahead. Okay. Yep. Good idea. Okay. Giving an interview to a podcast where the host said, was he confused.

but for the fact that the Republicans own the Senate and the House and therefore are responsible for the government shutdown, Jasmine Crockett says, no, you are not confused. When you control the legislative body, you control the government shutdown. Jasmine Crockett is apparently bad at math or pretends to be bad at math. It takes 60 votes in the Senate to pass a continuing resolution. Republicans do not control 60 votes in the Senate, requiring the participation of Democrats to get this pass.

So far, only three Democrats have joined Republicans, meaning they don't have the 60 votes. They're currently sitting, I believe, at 55. The necessity is there for five more Democrats. I think it's an interesting tell when someone is lying, their body language and what they do. In that clip, Jasmine Crockett not only folds her arms, but folds her shirt tighter around her.

her body. And I don't know. I just think there's something about that. If you were sitting in the room and you saw Jasmine Crockett kind of take her shirt, do this. I know it sounds little, but I'll tell you what, watch it again. You tell me, okay? I'll tell you what, tinfoil. I'm not tinfoil. God help us. Two a days. If you can play Jasmine Crockett without the sound, can you do that? Can you play it without the sound? And you just tell me if you think this person is telling the truth. I think body language is fascinating. He used to love when Bill O'Reilly had a body language expert on, but you tell me if this body language doesn't read false. Go ahead, take it away. So she's talking for the audio audience. Yes. Yeah, now watch. Adjust her seat, both butt cheeks, shirt,

wrapped up tight, crosses. You tell me, that is the ultimate defensive posture right there. I don't know, man. That says to me you're lying, and she is lying. Or she's stupid. She doesn't understand you need the 60 votes. Now, here is the element, exactly, exactly, hiding something, covering up, not open and bold. Here's the element that Tenfold Pat so desperately wanted to read when he got started with his engine, and he couldn't find any ability to stop. Jasmine Crockett posted on to X, raising hell at home and then pretending to be the president of peace is diabolical. Now, here's the question. Here's the question we have.

Is Jasmine Crockett stupid or is she playing stupid? Now, Tenfoil Pat, I'm going to let you take over the wheel on this, provided you can pronounce the word. P-O-S-T-H-O-U-M Can you spell it? P-O-S-T-H-U-M-O-U-S-E-Y? No, E-Y-Y, L-Y. There you go. Would you like it in a sentence, Will?

You nailed it without the E. You got it in front of me. P-O-S-T-H-M-O-U-S-L-Y. Oh, yeah, I did nail it. I did, yes. All right, pronounce it, tinfoil. So I couldn't even spell it. So, uh, let's see.

Post-humorously. Post-humorously. God, that got me, R in there. That got me real good earlier. Is that right? I'm, I'm, I'm, tinfoil, pronounce this word. C-A-C-H-O-0. P-H-O-N-Y.

Ah. I have no idea what you just said. Tenfold, do. Let's do it. Hold on. C-A-C-C-H. I can even, I can even picture it. C-A-C-H.

Okay, hold on. Okay. Cacephanie. P-H. P-H. Huh? Oh, and why. Oh, and why. I just texted it to you.

Just read it. read that one. Cassiphany. Cacophony. Huh? Cacophany? I'm trying to remember. I know it's not quite what it's supposed to be.

Cacophony, homie? Cicophony, that's right. Cicophony. Yeah. I've told you guys this story, right? I am somewhat sympathetic to Pat not being able to pronounce words that he's read. Although on posthumously, you are adding an R. You're adding letters in there.

Post-humorously is not. posthumously. But I'm sympathetic because I read words more than I hear them. And then when I say them out loud, I say them the way that I've been reading them, having not heard them. And sometimes I just, you know, do a pronunciation in my head when I'm reading. And I was on CNN, and I pronounced that word cacophony. No, you did not. And it. We need video evidence. And I think it makes sense if you read it. I'm calling CNN. It looks like, which one sounds like, like, what's the definition of cacophony a cacophony is like racket noise right a symphony of noises a harsh discordant of mixture of sounds yeah that's what i said and i think if i asked you which which way of saying

this word is more representative of what it actually is cacophony or cacophony i mean cacophony sounds like a harsh yeah i mean it sounds like what it should be right i mean all words are made up anyway So it doesn't matter. Cacophony sounds like. Turn off that cacophony. That's true. I agree. Let's change it. All right. Is Jasmine Crockett cosplaying stupid? All right. Now we turn it back over to tinfoil pack. Yes. Well, we have dug up this clip of Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett from right before she was, I guess, sworn in.

So what do you think? Do you think that? that she sounds like she's playing the same role? Absolutely. First of all, it's good to see you on the new year. You know, no one could have told me that when I went down to Austin, you got your audio turned down two days. Hang on a second. This is a train wreck.

Absolutely. First of all, it's good to see you in the new year. You know, no one could have told me that when I went down to Austin, now. It was like a little bit over a year ago that I would be running for Congress. Nope. This is not what my plan was. On the Wilcane country show.

It played. Don't worry. It's just in one ear. It played to everybody but me. Exactly. Well, I'll have to ask the audience then because I didn't hear it. What does she sound like in that clip?

I don't know which one of you, you maestroes to turn it over to. here. She spoke very eloquently. What did she sound like? She spoke very eloquently and she was speaking with a soft tone and she was, you know, saying things that, you know, just in a very, very nice, eloquent way.

Yeah. Matter of fact, yeah. Matter of fact, way. Imitate. Give me an impression. Oh. I think that's you, Dan, since you can turn the audio right. You can do that. You can do that one yourself. I'm terrible.

impression style the question is is it cosplay can you can you guys give me an impression of the two versions of jasmine crocket no so that i know no dan you know you want to dan you know you want to i do not want to you did this on the pre-show call but not now oh no come on dan i can't i didn't hear it you didn't fix my audio so i didn't get to hear the two different versions of jasmine crockett so since you didn't produce the show well technologically wow you need to now give me an audio impression of Jasmine Crockett. Let's play it. Absolutely. First of all, it's good to see you in the new year.

First of all, it's good to see you in the new year. I'm happy to be here. It's essentially what you sound like. Okay, awesome. That was good. Now give me the other one. No. How would we play the other one? Because that has good audio.

You can do it. No, it has a really good audio. Why wouldn't you play the other one? I don't understand. You just did one impression. Do the other impression. I see the point you're making, and I like it. for this purpose, but I'm not doing that.

Republicans don't know how to count. When you're in the legislative body, you control everything. So if the government shuts down, it's on y'all. Is that right? Yeah. Like it?

I don't know. And he crossed his arms. And he crossed his arms. All right, the question is, you know what's interesting? Okay. I love putting Dan in the box of making him go home to his wife and her asking him, were you racist today on Wilcane country? She's watching right now.

And I think we were, yeah, well, see that? He was almost racist. And you can ask him about it. He was almost racist. He almost did a racist impression of Jasmine Crockett. But here's the fascinating thing. Why would you, if you were able to impersonate her, give an impression of her in one version, but not. not the other. Why is it racist? See, she's doing two different versions of herself, right? That's the

point we're making here. She has cost-playing a certain version of herself. Now, which version is the real version is an interesting and legitimate question, right? But I think most people assume, like when you can't count to 60 and you can't figure out the Democrats are the ones holding up the government shutdown, it begs the question, are you stupid? But you're not stupid. You're cosplaying stupid. And that's pretty interesting. Why would you cosplay stupid?

Why would you cosplay someone that doesn't understand? Or speaks in this second version style of Jasmine Crockett. Why? Let's just stop and sit in that moment. Why? Why? And that why has tons of interesting conversation and revelations inside of it. Tons.

Right? Like, why would that be electorally advantageous for her? Why would that be something that gets her more attention? Why would that be something that gets her socially viral? Why would that be something that she does? Why is the other version of herself the one that she's chosen to leave behind? And why would it be racist if you did an impression of that version of Jasmine Crockett? I think inside the answer to those questions, you get some real authenticity about what's going on

with Jasmine Crockett? And what, by the way, is celebrated? What is off limits? What is real? What is not real? What is right and what is wrong? I think it's clear that Jasmine Crockett is playing stupid. I think it's clear that Jasmine Crockett is playing a certain version of herself. And I think that we can answer the first question pretty easily, like, why she's doing that, oh, because it makes more popular. But then you get to the more interesting questions. Why does that make her more popular, right? That's the whole issue. Why is that a version of herself that is rewarded? That's fascinating. That's interesting. All right, go ahead. Topic number two, tinfoil, Pat. Topic number two, Senator Bernie Sanders appears to celebrate

the release of Palestinian murderers and terrorists. So during the prisoner or the hostage exchange yesterday. Israel gave over 2,000 Palestinian prisoners. And Senator Bernie Sanders appears to have been celebrating that. Yes, Senator Bernie Sanders celebrates release of Palestinian murders, rapists, and terrorists. He, by the way, similar to the New York Times. The New York Times posted the following on their homepage. Look at this. This is the picture. It's accompanied by a caption on the cover of the New York Times. It says in Tel Aviv, watching the sunset at the beach on Sunday hours before the expected exchange of hostages between Israel and Hamas. The exchange of hostages is that's how they describe the prisoners released from Israel back into Gaza. Now, if you do a quick little bit of research here, who was released? 2,000 prisoners were released. uh by israel here's what you got a palestinian police officer convicted for participating in the lynching of two israeli reservists at the beginning of the second intifada in two thousand a gaza resident

who raped and murdered a 13 year old israeli boy yad abu al rub a commander of the palestin islamic jihad in jane listed for release in recent negotiations uh cam abu shan a fatah member who served decades in prison and lost significant weight during his incarceration. 250 convicted prisoners of Fatah, Hamas, Palestinian Islamic jihad, or the Popular Front. Hundreds of these guys have been arrested for murders, terrorist acts, have been arrested in the past and then gone on to recommit

offense, so they're already a second time they're going to be released. These are not people taken hostage like the Israelis into Gaza, whether or not they've all had due process or formal charges. They're all suspected of crimes, including on the vast majority of times, murder. That's not an exchange of hostages. That is a prisoner for hostages exchange. And for Bernie Sanders in New York Times to pretend differently, a little bit like the Jasmine Crockett debate. it to pretend or do they believe it to be the case? I don't know the answer to that on this occasion, but it is absolutely unforgivable to describe these people as simply hostages. All right,

and then finally one more in Quick takes, Tinfoil Pat. I was saving this one for last because it's one of my favorite. So former President Barack Obama was on the WTF podcast of Mark Marin. I believe it was one of the last episodes. And he had this to say about your good friend, Texas representative James Telerico. But look, there's this young state rep, James Tarrico, who was on there a while back out of Texas. Oh, that guy's good, right? He's terrific. Really talented young man.

And, you know, it does require a certain confidence in your actual convictions to debate and have a conversation with somebody who disagrees with you on a whole bunch of stuff. Obama pulls a tinfoil pat. I know. I said it correctly. How good could Talarico be if Obama doesn't know his name, right? This is a really good young fellow, James Tarrico. It's a Tariqa fellow. Mike Tarrico?

Oh, wait. He's brother. Mike Tarrico? The NFL broadcaster? Do you think Obama saw Tala RICO in his edited video? that went viral, quote unquote, debating me. I do too. Absolutely.

I do, and I'm not patting myself on my back. There's only two ways that Tala Rico would really hit. Now, I will grant you, Tala RICO's popular on the left, right? And he's being described as a rising star. And he was described as that before he had his disingenuous debate with me. He was on Rogan. And Rogan pumped him up, glazed him, as the kids say. Right?

And so I think because he did well on Rogan, the left is like, oh, oh, Joe Rogan likes him. This is a star on on the left. And then he comes on with me and does his disingenuous viral debate moment, which I agree with you two days, hit Obama's radar. Now, you say that because in the Brooklyn brunch crew and in the lefty circles, they all saw it, right? Every left he saw it. Mm-hmm. basically good for and the takeaway was

the takeaway was that Torrico destroyed a Fox News host who ran to commercial break right that was the takeaway essentially unfortunately but I corrected the record to many of them just so you know

one at a time yeah I'm trying out here on these streets I appreciate you doing that it reminds me of what was his name Pappy O'Daniel running for governor

in what state was it? Pappy O'Daniel running for governor, I'm going to say in the state of Alabama in O'Brother Where Art thou? Did you all ever see O'Brother Where Art thou? Yeah, a long time ago. I loved that movie. Yeah, that's so good.

Do you remember when he's walking into the radio station with his son, the newfangled radio, and there was like a guy sitting out front of the radio station and the son goes over and shakes his hand and says, vote for Pappy O'Daniel? And then he got to, but the father doesn't. The guy running for government. He goes, Pappy, why don't you do?

doing, Daddy? Aren't we politic in here? He says, no, you idiot. We ain't one at a time in it here. We mass communicating. So, like, you're one at a time in it, and they're mass communicating on the viral that Torrico destroys Will Kane. But I appreciate your one at a time in a band. I do. Four at a time. Obama, really, really on the Tariko band lagging. That's his new name, by the way. From now on, he is James Torrico. Yeah. calling Sunday night football along with Chris Collinsworth.

All right, that's going to do it for quick taste. Let's take a quick break. Come back with Link, Lauren, because we want to talk about Letitia James harboring a fugitive and a remembrance of Charlie Kirk coming up on Will Kane Country. The Hulu original series Murdoch Death and the Family dives into secrets, deception, murder, and the fall of a powerful dynasty. Inspired by shocking actual events and drawing from the hit podcast.

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Link Lauren is the host of Spot On with Link Lauren. He's got a new show. He used to be a senior advisor to RFK. He's doing great. What are you up to on YouTube, Link? You got a good following there. I keep up with you. Thank you so much. I feel like the podcast were kind of hitting our stride. I think people think I'm new to everything. I've been around in social media. a long time. I can feel we're a few months away from hitting our stride. So I'm super excited about spot on and how it's going. So thank you for mentioning it. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, you bet. You're doing a great job. Okay, they cannot give President Trump credit. Now, to be fair, there is a lot of people on the left who are giving President Trump credit.

Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, and he did make the cover of Time magazine. The cover of Time magazine reads, his triumph. The leader Israel needed. How Gaza heals. Those are various articles. Underneath a huge picture of President Donald Trump. Now, Link, it is a picture taken from beneath President Trump. He's got the loose neck skin or chin. It's basically up his nostrils. His hair is disappearing into the bright sky. It is incredibly, link. incredibly unflattering. No, the second I saw the Time Magazine cover, Will, I knew President Trump was not going to like it, nor should he, but this is what Time Magazine does and all of these liberal outlets. They go out of their way to choose the worst pictures of Republicans and conservatives, the worst lighting, the worst angles, and then they edit and they ratchet up the saturation to make you look as bad as possible.

If this were Barack Obama, go pull up Barack Obama's Time Magazine covers. covers. They made him look like this cool, suave, rock star guy, but this is what they're going to do to President Trump. And I've had the immense privilege of covering the President. I've traveled with him. You and I were both down in Curville with the President. He looks great in person. President Trump is fit. He's tall. He's skinny. His skin looks good. His hair looks good. You have to go out of your way to make him look bad. The guy is handsome, okay? Let's be honest. The guy is handsome. But they try to make him look like this evil, fascist dictator because that's what they've called him for 10 years. It is intentionally unflattering.

There is no doubt about it, and it did not escape the attention of President Trump. Here is what he posted on Truth Social. Time Magazine wrote a relatively good story about me, but the picture may be the worst of all time. Each word capitalized. They disappeared my hair and then had something floating on top of my head that looked like a floating crown, but an extremely small one. really weird i never likes taking pictures from underneath angles but this is a super bad picture and deserves to be called out what are they doing and why here's my favorite thing about his his post um then had something floating on top of my head that looked like a floating crown

but an extremely small one so had it been a large crown he might have forgiven no absolutely maybe he would have forgiven if the crowd had been larger but i'm glad he called them out. Here's the thing about President Trump. He could be up for days running on no sleep, but he's got this swagger. He's going to say what needs to be said in the moment because he's a real guy from New York City. He's been dealing with these magazines, these photographers, the press for decades and decades and decades going back to page 6, the New York Post. So I don't think this is anything new to him, but no, he'd been up for days and I think he had had it. I think he had had it. And there's a reason nobody is buying these magazines

anymore. There's a reason their sales are in the gutter. You guys might want to reach out to the 77 million Americans who voted for Trump or continue going down. Link, how old are you? I just turned 28. You're so young. Perfect. So on this present Trump thing, everybody does understand, right? A picture from an underneath angle is unattractive. Don't do that, right?

You understand that, right? You know, you've seen the moms taking the selfies. You know, you want to get a little upward angle. You want to get down, right? You would never take a picture of yourself like this from below like they did with President Trump. Am I right? No, you're absolutely right. I think what President Trump needs is maybe a gay sidekick to follow him around and swat those cameras away to make sure the lighting is perfect.

The camera angles are perfect. I would have come in there and said, absolutely not. Nope, get out from under there. The only person who should be looking up at you from that angle is if someone's on their knees. No one needs to be seen from that angle unless you bought me a drink first. Okay, let's be honest. no one needs to be looking at it so we agree on that but since you're 28 i just want to see because we've had this ongoing debate here on will cane country with some of my younger uh staff members

and interns this is miller she's a she's a intern here and i don't know if you have a return and you can see this yeah i do i took this photo thank you and and it's it's nicely framed okay a slight upward angle right it's a great photo now let me show you how other people take photos like my staff, okay? This is how they would take it. Look at that photo. Cut off at the knees, lots of headroom. Like, why do I need all that view of the ceiling, right?

But this is how they would take the photo. So which one is better, Link? My photo or my producer Ellie's photos. Okay, go back to your style right here. Go back to yours. I think I like yours better. Like, why do I need to see the air vents and the ceiling tiles and the fluorescent lighting?

Exactly. I think, yeah. Exactly. That's a good one. That's a good one. See, that's me, too. Yeah. Your staff looks happy because they have such a great boss.

They're so happy to work for you and to work at Fox with Will Hainley. He looks so happy. That's right. I just had to get the young people in to talk about the proper way to take a photo. But whether or not you're young or old, we can all agree. It's not the way they did it on Time Magazine. All right, Link, today at 4 o'clock is when it's scheduled from the White House. The President of the United States will be awarding the president.

presidential Medal of Freedom posthumously to Charlie Kirk. There should be a lot of people involved in the affair today. It's going to be moving, I'm sure. What do you think about Charlie getting the Presidential Medal of Freedom? I think it could not be more deserved. I think Charlie Kirk is the perfect person to receive the Medal of Freedom. I wish he were still around to receive the Medal of Freedom, but the fact that he can get it posthumously at least makes me a little bit happy for today. What he was able to do reaching young people is something we're going to have a hard time creating. I don't think there are that many folks who can step in and fill his shoes. I see people trying. I see people auditioning to fill his shoes. But he was a singular once-in-a-generation

talent. And when it comes to the Presidential Medal of Freedom, they've given these Medal of freedoms to people who've done nothing, like Anna Wintor from Vogue. They've given her a Medal of Freedom. They gave George Soros a Medal of Freedom. They've given Hollywood swampy, gross actors, medals of freedom. So why don't you give something to Charlie Kirk who totally deserves it and was a martyr for the cause in this country? I think it's incredible. Yeah, I totally agree. I want to follow up with something you said about people kind of trying to step into the shoes of Charlie Kirk. It's a mixed bag. It's like anything in life. In one way, you want Charlie to be an inspiration for others to do something similar, to go out there and speak their truth, speak boldly, own their faith, own their values, on their positions, and also interact with people that disagree with you. And in that way, we've said this, you hope that you would spawn a thousand Charlie Kirk's. But, the fact that there have been other people doing almost exactly what he did, which is to go on to campus and have these debates, for me highlights how uniquely qualified and good at this Charlie was. And not to take, I'm not trying to take away from those, those that are doing it.

It's, I think my thing is, Charlie needs to be an inspiration, not a, not, a formula. How about that? Is that the right way to say it? you know find your own way to reach the youth find something that's authentic to you find the thing that you're going to be able to connect with people over but it's like you got to be the next version of you not the next version of michael jordan absolutely you know i've seen a lot of people even since charlie kirk's assassination they post their text messages with charlie they maybe inflate their relationship with charlie i've never inflated my relationship with him i was on fox and friends that one time when he hosted and i was so so great

that he interviewed me and that I got to be on with him, but I would never purport to be super close to Charlie. I never purport to be super close to the folks at Turning Point, but others have jumped in, and I did a video, I think, 36 or 48 hours after his assassination, and the video got a lot of attention because within hours of Charlie Kirk's assassination, I saw a lot of people jumping in and trying to audition to fill his shoes. That's not what Charlie Kirk would have wanted, and that's not what he preached on these campuses. If you go look up these videos of Charlie Kirk on campus, even if he's talking to a transgender kid who's confused, he's like, look, Look, God made you this specific way.

You don't need to go change yourself. Love the skin you were born and be yourself. And I think for young people and folks trying to recreate what Charlie Kirk did, find what makes you unique and what you bring to the table and the discourse. Don't try to emulate him because that's not what he would have wanted anyway. Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back on Will Kane Country. You know, since you bring this up, I didn't necessarily have this scheduled to talk with you about today. but I've found this fascinating talking about trans and so forth.

Let me see if I can get this to pull up here in the studio. But this is a new study out that shows the share of students identifying as not identifying as male or female. So in other words, non-conforming, it's trans identification. And the caption reads, this is from fire data. Trans identification is in a free fall, peaking around 2023 with something like, according to an Andover study, 10%, just shy of 10% of kids from 2016 to 2025 identifying as trans. That peaked in 2023, and it's on a steep decline from about, let's call it 9.5% down to below 10%. That's according to an Andover study, both Brown and Fire themselves. also show sharp declines over the last two years and the number of kids identifying as trans.

What do you make of that, Link? Well, it's interesting. We talk all the time about this woke mind virus and we throw the term around, but there really is a woke mind virus, not even being facetious about this. When you look on social media and some of these algorithms, you have young people who are malleable, impressionable, their frontal lobes aren't connected, and they're being inundated with all of this trans stuff and non-binary stuff. And kids who never would have questioned their own identity are going, well, maybe that's what I should do. Maybe that's who I should be. Instead of just being themselves, they're now inundated with all of this crap.

In 2023, you also had folks like Dylan Mulvaney blowing up on the scene with the Bud Light scandal, all of these trans folks coming to you on social media. I think young impressionable kids who are maybe confused to begin with, see that and try to glom on to some sense of identity. But in the culture now, we're having more of a return to normalcy. I would say it started really around November 5th with the election last year, right? We really defeated Woke with Kamala Harris. in the Biden administration and some of the folks who worked in that administration.

So now we're having a return to common sense, faith, family, conservative values. And I think young people are saying, wait a minute, I don't have to change my entire identity to fit in. I just need to be myself. Yeah, I have two thoughts coming off this. One, it really validates the idea of a social contagion. When you see this happen, it invalidates the idea that here's here's, here's, it invalidates this argument. Well, there were always trans people. There always have been trans people.

haven't been felt emboldened to come out. They haven't felt an environment where it's safe to come out. And you can always use that argument in reverse. They can say, oh, with the rise of Donald Trump and all of this, now people are going, quote, unquote, back in the closet. I don't think that's, I don't think that's what we're dealing with here. What we're actually dealing with is a social contagion, where something becomes popular, and underlying mental health issues can be mutated into this, find a pressure release

valve is so it seems into this. And something's changed in the last two years. And I think it's really fascinating what has changed. You know, sometimes I think about what we do. You know, we talk about this issue. We talk about that issue. And, you know, what can be done about it? But I actually think all of us, not just me or you, talking about these things and drawing attention to them and highlighting them work. It's when you're silent and you let the culture get away from you that you end up the way that we did from about 2015 to 2024. And it was necessary for people saying, go, no, this doesn't reflect me. No, this is not right. And you can call it culture wars in the right, you know, not like in Dylan Mulvaney on Bud Light. But the truth is, it worked. What it worked to do is reveal

that's not who we are. And now you're talking about the silent majority, actually dictating the culture. No, absolutely. I mean, even during the last election, the left would all of these things were culture war issues. And those of us on the right, so many who were independents, maybe disaffected Democrats, like 90s Democrats who wanted common sense and secure borders, we were saying, no, these aren't just culture war issues. They are very serious issues.

What you guys are trying to minimize, we see as a big deal, right? The transing of children, putting men and women's sports. These were major issues that galvanized voters and moved them to the polls in November, but the left spent years gas-sighting us saying, these aren't a big deal, don't worry about it. So it is important for us to speak about it.

One thing about me, obviously, I address the elephant in the room every single time. I don't deny the fact that I'm gay, but I'm a common sense, normal, gay guy. I don't want to be lumped in with all the insanity on the left. So I feel a sense of responsibility sometimes to come out and offer a counterpoint because those folks eat up so much of the attention

on social media and on the internet. You have to know there's some common sense folks out there. I have read there's a movement to separate the LGBT from the TQ. Yeah, no, I've heard about this too. It's so funny. I don't even focus on LGBT. DQIA R2D2 stuff that much in my real life. It's when I come on shows of people to ask me about it.

I'm perfectly fine if they want to take the LGBT away from the T because so many trans folks say, well, it has nothing to do with sexuality. You could be trans and still like this and like this. And I'm like, I'm falling asleep. I'm falling asleep. But if we want to separate, go ahead. For me personally, I don't really care

to be in anyone's one community anyway. Like I'm a grown man. I don't need to sing kumbaya and braid each other's hair. So y'all go be in whatever community you want to be in. I'll be over here in the land of common sense. in reality doing my work every single day. Right. All right.

Last topic. Letitia James is the Attorney General of New York. And she has been now indicted on bank fraud charges, mortgage fraud charges. Now there is a revelation that she's also harboring a fugitive. Apparently, her two nieces living in her house in Virginia, have been arrested and charged with crimes including grand larceny, weapons charges, burglary charges, and child abuse charges as well. One of whom was wanted by the law was at large and living in Letitia James' house. This is the Attorney General of New York harboring a fugitive in her home, one of her nieces, Link.

So when I first saw this story, it was just the most lowbrow, uncouth thing I had seen in a long time. I thought Tyler Perry needs to get cameras over to this dilapidated house immediately. Start filming immediately. This is like some real housewives. This is like bad girls club. Letitia James, she's being accused of mortgage fraud. Now we find out she's harboring these criminal nieces in her home. The nieces, I know we probably can't pay for the pictures.

I wouldn't either. The nieces are going out and negligence with their breast out there. They have tattoos of guys' names on their breast. I don't know maybe their boyfriends or their fathers of their kids. I don't know. They've got taps on their breast out there. They're walking around. They look like a calamity.

Okay, so Letitia James, the last thing I'll say about her is this. She ran on getting Trump. I'm gonna get Trump. Well, Karma got its kiss for you, Letitia James, because it always comes back around. I've never seen someone come for Trump and win. And come out on the other side looking golden, okay? He took on the entire Justice Department and ran a campaign in 2024

and is back in the White House with the House, the Senate, and a majority. So I don't think Letitia James, this is going to go well for her. Maybe she should have been prosecuting her own. family who are criminals instead of the president. That could have been a good game plan. I think so as well. Hey, speaking of the tats, you brought up, this will be the last thing since you're 28. This is what's fascinating to me. We talked about like the trans social contagion. I feel like we're also rapidly approaching like roller coaster downhill speed on the face tattoos. You know, in my day and age, a face tattoo, a face tattoo said I have no interest in being employed.

but now they're they're increasingly popular in I don't know if I would call it you know regular workforce communities but but it doesn't carry the I mean a face tattoo said I want to look like I'm in a gang or in prison and I feel like we've moved beyond it now like I see Instagram girls with the face tattoos and the the piercings are another thing like the the bull ring and you know we've really got to out there on the social acceptability of some face art. Well, it's also like these kids who major in like queer ethnography in college and then they wonder why they can't find jobs. It's like if you have 15 face tattoos, like a member of MS-13 and Trindade Agua, you're probably going to have a hard time getting a job here in the real world. You're not going to get a job on Fox either with a teardrop tattoo. Just call me crazy for that one.

But, you know, I think these people, maybe they just don't care anymore. They don't have jobs anyway. They're not employed. Maybe they've been watching Mike Tyson and The Hangover. you know he got a face tattoo i don't know what it is with the face tattoos i would never get a tattoo because i am the biggest scaredy cat on earth i always say i have too much to live for i am a scared cat i drive below the speed limit i use my turn signals i'm not going to get any piercings or tattoos so i feel like i'm not the most equipped to even answer this question

all right link loren check him out it's spot on with link loren podcast youtube channel i appreciate having you on thank you thank you thank you thank you all right uh coming up By the way, I want to break down, here's what, here's my tease for you, okay? I have a follow up on face tats. Could a face tat is a face tat hired at Fox. Do we have any face tatters at Fox? We might. I don't know.

I'm curious on where the line is on face tats these days. And second, link said turn signal. Okay. I want to just introduce an idea to you. Turn indicator. Coming up on Wheel Can Country. With MX Platinum, access to exclusive. Amex pre-sale tickets can score you a spot trackside.

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Happy birthday, Charlie, the 32nd birthday of Charlie Kirk, who today will be awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Sophie's Mama says, happy heavenly birthday, Charlie, we love and miss you. It is Will Cain Country streaming live at the Will Cain Country YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page, but always available by following on Spotify and on Apple. Jason Tate comments over on YouTube. First time seeing this live can't help but think, what in my head when seeing Dan? If you know, you know. What do you think, Dan? He's a fan of yours from American Idol?

No, it's from my old show. It's a reference I haven't heard in a very long time, which is very funny. So when I was up... So for years, Dan was on the Dan Patrick show. What is the Dan Patrick show reference here? So when I was on the show, I was like behind all the guys on the show. And I didn't have a mic the first few years. And so when they would like talk about me, I would kind of like whip around.

And I would just be like, huh? What? Like when they were talking about me, so every time they would just be like, huh? So it became a whole thing they made shirts that said, what? I just kind of looked like I didn't know what was going on most of the time. So that was the reference. All right. Look at you.

Look at you, Dan, increasing our numbers, bringing your old audience over. One guy. I love it, Jason. One at a time, remember? One at a time in it here, boys. We're one at a time in it here. And then Ellie Palmer Works on the show here

Says Will is falsely demonstrating my photo taking skills Oh, you want on the camera? What are you doing walking out here? You just want to say one thing. Go ahead. I didn't actually take that photo that he showed on the screen. So falsely demonstrating how I do. That is how you take a photo.

But it's not actually me taking the photo. But you would have taken one just like that? No, I wouldn't have. How would you have taken it? Way better than that. I would like to say that there is a learning curve as I am 5'2 and you are not. So maybe taking photos of you is a little bit different. I know.

Look at the height difference here. Dan is really noticing the height difference. I literally make it to the table. I know. So, okay, learning curve, but that is not how I take photos. What did he say? What did he say? Okay, fine.

Misrepresentation of your photo skills. Thank you. I just wanted to clear that up. Thank you. But it is how you. you take photos. This is actually a good opportunity before we get into Blue Bloods in college football to have a conversation about height.

In fact, today's, let's do that in final takes. Final take. All right, so there's been an ongoing conversation about height and the truth here. Jeffrey Meade came on to the show yesterday, former Oklahoma Sooner, wide receiver. He's huge on social media. Instagram, TikTok. And his first time I met Jeffrey in person, and he is tall, boys. He's easily, he says 6-5. I think he could be high. It's taller. He could be taller. I was telling Patrick earlier, I think he's taller than that. He makes you look sharp, which would be all of us, but yeah. I know. I'd say I am a quarter

inch shy of 6-2. If I were guessing my height, I'm 6-1-5, 6-1 and 3 quarters, right? right in that range. That's my guess, okay? He was much taller than me, much taller. It felt like more than three inches. So that led to tinfoil wants to have a moment of truth on height, that I've been questioning people's height too much is what you're saying, Patrick. Yes, Will. So I didn't realize, yeah, I don't know when you're ever going to broadcast. I swear to God, Sometimes you broadcast when it's not time to broadcast, and some of the times you don't broadcast when it's clearly time to broadcast. I thought you're going to keep going. So, you know, there's a delay.

Follow, buddy. Follow. So, anyway, so our good friend, David Marcus, was hanging out with Scott Pressler the other day, and he shared this tweet. I don't know if the people at home can see it. It's up on the screen, yep. Up on the screen. Scott Pressler is 6'5. not and we we had a conversation about that and david marcus is six two and you can kind of see

that david marcus does check out he's well over six six six feet could easily be six two well there's no context in this photo it requires me this is the logic games it requires me to assume the scott presler six five i never heard that he's so tall the pressler six five i think he talked about it last week uh i didn't i didn't i didn't see this, by the way. I didn't see this tweet. Somehow I missed this. So sorry, David. I would have responded. Otherwise, I didn't see this somehow. He also says, we might start a band. That totally looks like a band. David and Scott Presler together, 100% looks like a band. Yeah. Who plays what? Yeah, that's exactly my question, Dan. Who's doing this band? So David sings,

like Morrissey, and Scott is definitely playing the guitar and slinging his hair around. I don't No, I see drummer and Scott. Could be. He looks like a lot of long-haired drummers. I see, I think they're competing lead singers who have a band fall out and go solo. That's what I see in this. Like a, like a Lennon McCartney. Run lead.

Yeah. Like, Scott Presser's got the Creed thing going. I mean, he's at the front. He's out front. I don't see Scott in the back behind the drums. No. And he's definitely not on the base. This is either a rock god.

or up front with the long mic stand, okay? But that being said, David does nothing but lead. He's not going to be in the background. Like, that's not, look at him, you know, look at him. So I see trouble. I see a documentary on this relationship. I see a rivalry. Yeah.

No matter how tall they are. Okay. By the way, that's not the only. only justice we need to have here on height. Now, Dan, I haven't seen this yet. I literally did not look, okay? So we were, if we're going to have come to Jesus on height, there's been some question about the height of tinfoil patent. Okay? So we have asked him to submit a picture on how tall he actually is. I don't know why this picture makes me laugh. It looks like you're marking your height lines at your house. I was trying. I was trying. Patrick, I mean,

You wear hey dudes? Yeah, it's the only, uh, shoot that'll fit my foot. Looks like a mugshot. Well, what does that mean? How big? I got fat feet. I don't have long feet. I have fat feet.

They're just fat and thick. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to step away from the microphone two days while you broadcasts because I get, I got to read this tape measure while he's at, while you do that. I got to get closer. My eyes aren't so good. All right.

So we have two pictures of tinfoil. pat one lengthwise up against the wall one a little tighter so we can see the tape measure and where it's at and what's the number on that what's the number there will it looks like he's coming in at about 73 inches that's what i would say he for some reason he has 72 marks but he's a little above the 72 well that was just to show you where six feet was okay not where my hide is this is accurate and by the way we cannot see the tape measure go all the way to the ground that's what i'm suss. Where is it?

In fact, it only goes halfway down, Patrick. Where is it going? Where is the tape measure? It disappears at your hand. I think it's AI. I think we just confirmed it's AI. What is this saying? That would make you 6-1.

Look at your picture, Patrick. Hold on. I'm going to step away again. For anybody watching on YouTube and Facebook, follow me here. Here's the tape measure. Where is it here? Yeah.

Wait, so even if it's crooked, that means it's not real height. which would make him shorter. Where is the tape measure? It's curved. It's down behind my foot. There it is. It's like right there. See, if you look, if you look, it's like you can see it's all the way down the ground right by my foot there.

Like it's very, it's right behind my leg, my right leg. You can see the little yellow peeking out. I'm zooming in on the picture. You are zooming in? I'm zooming in here. Yeah, it is there. I see it. I don't see it.

Well, if it's diagonal, if that's true, you're taller than you have. No, no, no, shorter, right? Shorter. Shorter. Because he's made it diagonal. Yeah. No, no, no, no. Because this says he's 6-1.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. A diagonal line is longer than a straight line. It's math. All right, well, I'm at least six. Man. Maybe not 6-1. I definitely lost about half an inch, it looks like, from where I was. Yeah.

Yeah. We'll just say it's definitely over 6. We'll just say 6-11. It's fine. Say I'm over 6. You're getting nothing past this crew, this crack broadcasting team. You're getting nothing beyond us here. You fake that, and that's not right.

Brought it on yourself. All right. There we go. Final takes. Wasn't final takes today because I want to talk about James Franklin being fired as the head, at Penn State. You two boys hang around. Here's the question. James Franklin has been fired just a few games into the season as the head coach of Penn State. After annually having them in the top 10 and sometimes in the top five, after three bad losses, he has been fired

by Penn State as their head coach. Bringing a question up, who is the next head coach of Penn State? In fact, over on the Wallycia, Master Chief, what's up, Master Chief says, Will, who is your short list for Penn State head coach? Well, I think there is a very clear short list, and some people have already started to write about it. And the answer is, Kurt Signetti, the head coach at the University of Indiana, and Matt Rule, the head coach at Nebraska. The Matt Rule thing is he carries an amazing reputation from his days at Baylor and Temple. What more, he apparently is very, very good friends with the athletic director at Penn State.

And Nebraska is an interesting question as we, an interesting example as we lead into this conversation. What does Penn State have the ability to do? Like, where are they? Is this the destination job? Is it something you could get Signetti to leave Indiana for for Penn State? Is it something you could get ruled to leave Nebraska for? Penn State? Is it the top of the mountain job?

And top of the mountain jobs are few and far between. final stops in college football, right? After you get this job, you can't be hired away. It's another way of having the conversation of who are the true blue bloods in college football? And I think we've had some real, you know, bombs drop in that respect because one would say that Notre Dame is a top of the mountain job, right? You don't get hired away from Notre Dame. But that's exactly what happened with Brian Kelly going to LSU. One would say, Oklahoma is a top of the mountain job.

You don't get hired away from Oklahoma to go somewhere else. Most certainly, I think even USC. That feels like a lateral move, not a move higher up the mountain. So what are the final stop destination jobs? Is Penn State one of these blue bloods? And then who could they get? So I did this. I went to AI and I just had a couple of lists compared that I think are important in this.

okay so first here are your biggest football athletic revenue programs in the country bringing in the most money um and i can share this up on the screen ohio state is number one at 251 million dollars in revenue texas number two Alabama three Michigan four i think we can all agree Georgia five all right they're all above 200 million dollars do we all agree those are blue blood top of the mountain jobs you don't go from one to the other i don't think you would make i don't think you'd see a michigan would you see a michigan coach get hired by georgia how about that would a guy leave michigan to coach at georgia they went to a championship yeah i wouldn't if what they went to a championship yeah if they went to a championship

I think so. What do you say? Nothing. So what do you mean? I was saying if they had a great season and going to Georgia, yes. I could see that happening. No, I'm not saying would Georgia want to hire a coach from Michigan. I'm saying once you're at Michigan, you don't go to Georgia.

You've got everything you need at Michigan. Oh, it's a lateral move. You had a premier program. Got it. It's a lateral move. Why would you do that, right? So if you keep going down. the list, by the way. LSU number six, Texas A&M number seven, Florida 8, Penn State comes in at

number nine on total revenue. So they're top 10 in total revenue, and then Oklahoma is number 10. Now, that's a pretty good list of potential Blue Bloods. Let's keep going. Here is your recruit, I thought I screenshot this one, too. We're all just hitting on all cylinders right now. top recruiting bases in the country. Here we go. This is, I think this is consensus 24-7 rivals five stars. Texas had 42 on average. Florida 37, Georgia 36, California 19, Ohio 13.

That's your top five recruiting bases in the country. So you go to some place, you want to win, you got to have money, and you got to have a good recruiting base. This is what's killed Nebraska over time. their recruiting base. So Pennsylvania, by the way, has a good base of college football players, but I don't, look at that Indiana comes in at number nine, by the way. Interesting. I don't think Pennsylvania's in the top 10, like in the old days when they turned out

the quarterbacks, the marinos, and who else was from Pennsylvania? A bunch of them. Is Jim Kelly from Pennsylvania? Go ahead, two days. I just want to throw this out there. Is there any leftover? I know it was a long time ago. but from the scandal that happened at Penn State

and working there and going there? Is that kind of out of the, you know, with Penn State? Yeah, I do. You know, is it still? I'm not sure it has any lasting effect. I'm not sure it has any lasting effect. It's got a little tarnished on the brand, right? I'm not saying right or wrong.

I'm saying, I just think, is. But do people think about it? But James Franklin's done a good job. I don't think people bring it out. Yeah. More. So the Athletic puts out a list of blue bloods. I think they do a good job with this every year.

It's one of the reasons I subscribe to the Athletic. They do put good things out. Here's their list of true blue blood programs in America. Alabama. Patrick's going to like this. Florida State. Georgia. LSU, Michigan, Oklahoma.

Miami, Notre Dame. Texas, Ohio State, Tennessee, USC. This is based on a combination of all-time win percentage and national championships. These are your Blue Blood programs, which I'm not sure I totally agree with all of those. Those are not, they may be Blue Bloods, they're not all top of the mountain. This is my final job. Like, I don't know that Tennessee could feel comfortable that they're going to hang on to a coach if Alabama comes calling. Is USC that anymore?

Georgia comes calling. Well, Lincoln Riley left Oklahoma for USC. I know. And that, there's no reason. There's no reason they shouldn't be good. Southern California recruiting base. The campus. The media market of Los Angeles.

As a reason for or against your saying? Four. It's beautiful. It's a hell of a place to be. Have you been to USC? I have. Have you been to USC? Yeah. It's in Watts.

Yeah, but the campus is great. once you're behind the gates yeah yeah sure yes that's what I'm talking about I visited Pepperdine and USC on the same day my dad goes whoa I don't get it why is there a debate it's not it's like Malibu or Watts

which one do you want to go to I just not a lot of people say that about USC the campus itself you're right is beautiful stay on campus And we already saw Notre Dame, you know, who's on this list and Oklahoma, lose coaches to other teams on this list. So maybe being a blue blood isn't quite the same thing as being a top of the mountain coaching job.

But in the end, I do think that Penn State is a next step up the ladder for both Matt rule and for Kurt Signetti. I think Penn State can and most likely will get one of those guys. And I think it would be the right move for those guys. Better recruiting base, more money. And it's awesome to think about rehabilitating Nebraska, but it is so, like, that job has got to be one of the hardest things to do in college football. Real quick, before we go.

The other one everybody's debating here is Rhett Lashley is the coach of SMU, took them to the college football playoff last year, and now Arkansas is in the coaching market. And Rhett Lashley's from Arkansas. Is that a step up? SMU to Arkansas? I would say so. I mean, I think five, six, seven years ago, you might have said yes, right?

But now, Arkansas's got the Jerry Jones billions, but SMU has got a ton of billionaires. They're going to be fine on the money. It's easier to win in the ACC than it is the SEC. Yeah. I don't think you leave. Dallas versus. Now, Northwest Arkansas, by the way,

is beautiful. If you haven't been to the University of Arkansas, it is absolutely beautiful. But you get the big city of Dallas. DFW is like, if not the top, top three recruiting bases in the country. I think you stay at SMU. You don't go to Arkansas. I mean, if you were at Arkansas, who are you going to go recruit? Because like, if you stay in the state of Texas, you have to go up against A&M, Texas, tech now, you know, it's like you have all these different schools that you have to go up against but like if you're in arkansas you know where are you going to go you're going to also go play in texas try to get those kids yeah historically that's what it is oklahoma yeah i mean i feel like you're if you're closer to home you have a better shot yeah absolutely yeah i think it's

easier to recruit to smu than it would be to arkansas so good luck pin state i do think you are a historical blue blood i'm not sure you were what you once were but maybe if you get a guy like Kurt Signetti, you could once again be right there at the top of the mountain. All right, that's going to do it for us today here on Will Cain Country. We'll be back again. We'll do better tomorrow. I promise. We'll do better tomorrow.

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