Will Cain Country - Why Did a Judge Apologize to the WHCD Shooter? (ft. Lara Trump)

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

Just a few weeks ago, a gunman infiltrated the White House Correspondent’s Dinner (WHCD) with the intent to kill the President and his Cabinet in cold blood. According to a D.C. Judge however, jail is too harsh of a punishment for such a man. Host of ‘My View with Lara Trump,’ Lara Trump joins Will to weigh on the Judge’s apparent hesitancy to treat a would-have-been Presidential assassin like a criminal, share what happened in the moments after she found out about the assassination attempt, and breakdown the Met Gala.Plus, Will and The Crew take a closer look at the Hunger Games-esque socialist extravaganza that was this year’s Met Gala, some shocking new developments in the case of the alleged “JPMorgan sex slave,” and scandalous new revelations about Rep. Eric Swalwell’s (D-CA) conduct on Snapchat.Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@silicanes⁠⁠⁠)Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Today. Offer ends May 10th. Terms apply. Washington, D.C. magistrate judge apologizes to the would-be assassin of President Donald Trump. The richest and most famous in America descend on New York City for the Met Gallo. The 1% in fashion's finest make a statement about the evils of the rich. With Laura Trump. Country, streaming live with the Wilcane Country YouTube channel, the Wilcane Facebook page, always here at your leisure.

Simply hit follow at Spotify or on Apple. A federal magistrate judge in Washington, D.C. yesterday issued an apology to Cole Allen, the would-be assassin of President Donald Trump. Cole Allen monitored on suicide watch and held in solitary confinement. was moved, not at his discretion, not at the request of his defense counsel, not at the request of the Bureau of Prisons, but instead because a judge considered it unfair the way he was being detained, the way he was being held in custody. Judge Zia Farquay said, what am I to say to Alan that this is going to be a fair process if we're putting him in a safe cell when he's not, supposed to be in there. At a minimum, I should be apologizing to him. Alan was held in a safe cell because he was on suicide watch for the beginning hours and days of his detainment.

The analysis by law enforcement was that if he went in on a suicide mission, which is what was suggested in his manifesto, if he expected to die when he was trying to kill President Trump, then he is ready to die. But according to. to Judge Zia Farquy, we are obligated to make sure he's taken care of. Quote, Mr. Allen, I'm sorry that things have not been the way they are supposed to. Judge Farquy went on to compare his detainment to that of people arrested on January 6th. He said that the people detained and held on January 6th received soft treatment and were not placed into solitary confinement. So why then should he be considering this type of harsh punishment for a would-be assassin of President Donald Trump?

Let's just re-emphasize those words for just one moment. Would-be assassin of President Donald Trump compared to at worst rioters at-best trespassers on January 6th. It's also factually inaccurate because the people that were detained on January 6, the great many of them, were actually held in solitary confinement, held beyond bail, held without pre-trial release. His history is off. It is false. And his comparison is not just apples and oranges. It's sanity to insanity. You have a politically elected judge who seems to be looking out for the interest of not America,

not the president of the United States, but a would-be assassin in Cole Allen. Let's discuss this with the host of my view, Laura Trump. It's Laura Trump here. on Will King Country. How, Laura? Hey, great to be with you, Will. Great to be with you as well. What do you make of this? What did you think when you saw this yesterday that a judge was apologizing to the man who tried to kill your father-in-law of President Trump? Honestly, there are almost no words to describe how crazy this is, Will. You did a good job of kind of talking about the January 6th defendants versus this guy. Correct me if I'm wrong. There wasn't anyone on January 6th

trying to assassinate the president. Okay. And, and guess what jail is supposed to be like? It's supposed to suck. We are supposed to deter people from ever wanting to break the law, from ever wanting to commit a crime, especially we're going to deter people, hopefully, from wanting to kill the president of the United States. So the idea that this guy is supposed to be having a vacation in a Ritz Carlton or something is preposterous. It's totally insane. And that, him trying to compare these January 6 people to this guy isn't so. on a whole host of different fronts. I might add that, by the way, a lot of the people who were held really for insane reasons,

and later the Supreme Court overturned a lot of that, some of these people had their doors broken down by the FBI. These are, you know, men and women who showed up at the Capitol on January 6, 2021. I'm not saying it was a great day, but a lot of these people did nothing wrong. And yet they were treated very unfairly. This guy tried to kill the president. He came armed to the teeth. There's no question if you read his manifest.

about the goals there. So yeah, I hope his jail sucks. And I hope a lot worse happens to this guy. This is the third time, Will, somebody has tried to do this to a family member of mine, to our president. And I think this judge is absolutely ridiculous. He needs to be taken off the bench. What was your experience, Laura, at the White House Correspondent Center? Well, Eric and I actually weren't there. You know, I've been to these in the past. The last one I went to, I was co-chair of the RNC. And, you know, if for anyone who's been there, it's a little crowded. It's a little tight. It's a little hot. And so we decided to actually have a date night, of all things.

As you noted, I have a show at 9 p.m. on Saturday nights on Fox. I didn't have a show that evening. So my husband and I went out to have a nice date night. And obviously, very quickly, things kind of got off the rails because we learned about what was happening there. And, you know, it's just one of those feelings that I just don't know how many more times we're going to have to experience this, where, you know, you feel. it in your gut and you can't eat, you can't think, and you wonder, well, what's happening? Is there more to this? Thank God, nothing happened at this event.

But, man, we've been through this will way too many times. And I'm grateful that we didn't go to this White House correspondent center. Obviously, I was invited to go through Fox. We were invited to go through the White House. But I'm happy I wasn't there, but just devastated by the fact that this happened again. Lord, how does that news reach you? Is that you and Eric sitting at a dinner table opening your phone? or is that a Secret Service agent coming to tell you guys there's been an incident at the White House Correspondence Dinner?

Does your night totally get interrupted at that point? Even though you're not at the White House Correspondence Dinner, and I don't want to betray your security protocols, but are you evacuated from wherever you are having dinner? You might have been privately at home. I'm not sure that I don't know exactly what date night means to Eric and Lord Trump. But I'm just curious, like from a personal level, you're not just really one of us. You probably didn't see it on X, but maybe. Maybe that is how you got the news.

Yeah, we actually, we got a phone call when we were at dinner and we did have, we were out at a restaurant to answer your question. Every now and again, we like to go out and do that. And like I said, it's kind of unusual sometimes that we get to have those moments. And so we were really enjoying ourselves. And I mean, it brings an abrupt halt to whatever kind of enjoyment you were having at that point. Our conversation, of course, completely derailed. We weren't escorted out of the restaurant because there was no immediate threat to us there. But we were. were kept up to date by Secret Service. They were letting us know that, you know, my father-in-law was okay, that everybody had been taken out, that the suspect was in, you know, custody and that sort of thing. But yeah, I mean, who wants to have a nice dinner after that?

Who wants to go out and enjoy your Saturday night after that? I mean, everybody there at the correspondence dinner had their night ruined. I can tell you, I've heard accounts from so many different people will, about what they went through. A friend of mine was walked in the kitchen until 10.30 at night. And so, you know, it's just, all it takes is one person to ruin a lot for a lot of people. And here you have yet again another one of those situations.

Locked in the kitchen until 10.30 at night. Yeah, that's, that is a way to ruin your Saturday. Yeah, that'll do it every time. That will do it every time. What did you do on Saturday? I was locked in the kitchen until 1030. But, of course, the potential cost of that night was much greater than simply ruining somebody's night. And the sad thing is that we've become, I hope we haven't become callous, but we've become at least used to this because it's at least three.

It's really probably more attempts on the life of the president. I mean, there was a incident just a few months ago at Mar-a-Lago. There was an incident yesterday where in a Secret Service agent shot a man, I believe, outside the Washington Monument, who was armed and pulled the gun. and it probably in a different, not even a different lifetime, but in a different decade, would have driven the news cycle for, I don't know, weeks. And it's like, here we are. We move right along. And I don't think, Laura, therefore, we really take the time to digest, to internalize what's happening around us.

We just simply move on. Well, and I think part of that, well, is the person who's in the White House. And, I mean, I don't want to sound like, you know, overstepping here. I get this in my family member, but this is our president. And if it were any other president in the White House, I really do think a lot of these people would have covered it more.

I actually, the incident you just spoke about yesterday, you know, we got knowledge of it probably before anyone because we have a security detail with us and they keep us up to date in terms of what's going on. But I was shocked that that wasn't, you know, top of every news story. And it really wasn't. It was sort of like an afterthought for a lot of people.

I just scroll down a lot of different sites to find it on a lot of different news sites. But it is becoming more commonplace. And I think that there are a lot of people who dismiss it because it is happening to this president. And that is a really scary place to find ourselves as a country. When you look at things like what the Southern Poverty Law Center is accused of having done, the way they have manipulated the perspective a lot of people have about this president, about Republicans, going out of your way to set things up in the way they are accused of doing when it comes to things like the Charlottesville hoax, that was so damaging to our country.

And so you have to look back at a whole series of events and people who are involved in getting us to this very moment. Were at any other president, we probably would have a lot more attention paid to these things. But because it is Donald Trump, so many people excuse it as, oh, well, this is Donald Trump and this is the stuff that happens to him because he's different and because he's speaking. his mind and because he says things that, you know, ruffle people's feathers sometimes, there is no excuse for this. And we have to start taking it seriously. Because if we become a country that just becomes accustomed to this sort of thing, man, it's a slippery slope from there.

And I'm really scared about the trajectory. Well, there's one more angle to that that when you first started talking, I thought you might be referencing. You ended up talking about the fact that if it were any other president, the media would cover it differently. But also, if it were any other president, I think the president himself would handle it differently. And it is pretty interesting how quickly President Donald Trump moves on from these moments. Like even that night, even the next day, he moves on. He moves on in conversation. He moves on in emotional temperament. He doesn't really dwell in any way on these stories. Well, and I think that that's his way of compartmentalizing it to tell you the truth.

I listen, obviously, I've known this man for 18 years, and I've seen him go through a lot. And what I've noticed is, and I think the entire country notices this, that he does have to take it in and he does have to process it. But then he has to compartmentalize it and put it to the side and move along. Because, listen, this is kind of a weird story to share for this, but it's a good example. I broke both of my wrists three weeks before Eric and I got married. I rode horses my whole life, and I was on a horse. I broke both of my wrists, and I was in cast on my wedding day. It was devastating in a lot of ways, but so appropriate.

Then when I found out the very day that I could get back on a horse and ride again, Will, it was the one thing that I was bound to determine to do, because you don't want to start being fearful of something just because you had a bad situation, a bad experience with it. So this is a president who doesn't want to miss a beat, doesn't want to skip a beat. He wants to get right back on the horse. He doesn't want the distraction. having to think about, you know, the fact that there really are a lot of people out there who wish him ill and have really awful things that they'd like to do to him.

That is secondary to him. He's focused on the job at hand. He understands there's a temporary amount of time he gets to be in this White House. And honestly, it's pretty remarkable. You're right to watch the way in which he just kind of deals with it and then moves on. And I think part of it, too, if you look at something like Butler, if you look at something like the way he came out an hour or so after the correspondence dinner situation, he understands that he also represents in so many ways this country to the rest of the world. And if we have a president who's going to be scared and kind of stay back in the shadows and overthink these sort of things, it sends a negative message out there to both our allies and our adversaries. And they are all watching.

So yes, he stood up on a stage in Butler, Pennsylvania, raised his fist in the air after being shot and said, fight, fight, fight, he got up in front of the entire White House pool of reporters there in the press briefing room, an hour or so after this incident where another guy tried to kill him. And he talked and answered everybody's questions. He wants to get back on the horse. He wants to focus on the job at hand. And he wants to present America. And he is a representation of America from a position of strength. And I think that's why he does all of it. Let's take a quick break, but continue this conversation with the host of My View with Laura Trump. Laura Trump on Will Kane Country. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. We're still hanging out

with the host of my view with Laura Trump. Laura Trump. Well, to take this full circle, is back to this judge in D.C. that felt the need to apologize to this killer, this would-be killer. The reason that he's apologizing is he doesn't feel like the man should have been held

in solitary confinement, that he doesn't satisfy the requirements of suicide watch. But what really betrays, to your point, what really betrays is what is guiding him, what's motivating him, is not some eternal sense of justice. But when you invoke January 6th, what's guiding you is rather some internal sense of partisanship.

And I just can't imagine that we're at a place where a judge himself is seeing an attempted assassination through the lens of partisanship. But this is not just a commentator on CNN. This is not just a poster on this live stream at YouTube. This is a judge in Washington, D.C., and I would guess and venture to say he's not alone in the type of person that is a sitting judge. Well, he's not, and we've seen it time and time again. I mean, these judges are basically activists will. Like, look around the country, look at the way they've tried to basically put a halt to anything they possibly could that this administration in particular has tried to do. I mean, they're all over the country.

And it really feels like a concerted effort. I don't know if they're getting their, you know, getting information from a specific source or if they're all just going out of their way and saying, yeah, we're going to make sure that this president and this administration can't accomplish their goals, but they're activists. And that is very concerning. I mean, my God, we saw one of these judges allow a defendant to just slip out the back, this illegal migrant. I forget where it was in Wisconsin or Minnesota or something. We all remember that from like last year. That's crazy stuff.

And I don't think most people 10 years ago, if you said this was going to happen, would have said that we would ever come close to that in America. But with this guy, with Cole Allen in this case, what this judge has done, it really makes me wonder what kind of a jury pool are we going to get for this trial in Washington, D.C.? Are there people who were so inundated and just so blinded by their hatred for this press? their Trump derangement syndrome, that this guy might not get actually the penalty that he deserves. I'm seriously concerned about the future if this is where we're starting,

and this is the kind of thing that we're seeing happen now. And the problem is that these Democrat activist judges are setting this as a precedent in so many ways. And so they're the ones trying to do it now, but they're basically opening the door for anybody to act this way, act this way. And I wonder how they'd feel if the shoe was on the other foot and you had this happening from the other side of the aisle. Now, we don't really see that happen, of course, but that is, it's a thought that I think we should really consider. I think your point

about the jury pool in Washington, D.C. is very interesting. It's something that I've been concerned about when it comes to the potential trial of Luigi Mangione as well, is that he's become such a cult figure that what kind of jury pool are we going to get to consider the, consider what is justice of Luigi Mangione. Yesterday, we had a comment and a call from a listener named First Round Buy, who is not only on the left, but describes himself as a Democratic socialist. Yesterday, we also got this comment from a viewer. Mike Mitchell says, Will, this is why I watch you.

And then the clapping emojis. I'm a Democrat also, and I like to hear both sides. Now, I don't agree with everything you say or how Trump can do no wrong in your eyes, but I do like what you do. Well, thank you, Mike Mitchell. Right there in the chat is the phone number, and you can. can join us as well throughout the call. I don't think it is an accurate portrayal of me or description of me that Trump can do no wrong. I do think that trying to analyze things objectively

and righteously leads me to the place where I am that you see it as I say, he can do no wrong. Laura Trump, have you been to the Met Gala? No, but, well, I'm sure they had an invitation and must have just gotten lost in the mail for me this time around. I'm just kidding. No, they've never invited me. They used to invite my father-in-law, Melania, I think Ivanka and Jared went a couple of times. I have never been, and I'm very proud of the fact that I've never been to this because, man, it's just like, what a disaster. It's something I don't want to be a part of. No thanks. I'm a little surprised that you and Eric have not been invited to the Mech Gala. I thought the answer to that question

might be, yes, I've been to the Mecgala. And then you would bring us some inside information because this thing, and I've struggled throughout the morning to find the right movie, I guess the best that I can do is Hunger Games, but it is insane. Okay, and I don't even expect everybody to know the Met Gala. It's not like the Oscars that everybody just knows. I believe is it fashions Oscars or a fashion celebration? I don't even think they give awards, right? But they invite everybody to the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

I believe it's a dinner, and it's very fancy. It appears to be very wealthy, and there's some very expensive fashion at the Met Gala. Have I described it right, Laura? Yeah, no, I mean, this is kind of a New York City staple, right? And I believe the goal of the whole thing, I think it's supposed to be some kind of a fundraiser for the Metropolitan Museum of Art. And there's always some sort of a theme by which all of the attendees are supposed to, you know, try to dress that certain way to mimic whatever the theme is. And it's always kind of artsy. That's why you see some of these crazy outfits there at the Met Gala.

But it is the who's who, right? It is, if you are on the list of people who are deemed important within Hollywood, the fashion industry, music, et cetera, then you get your invitation to the Met Gala. Now, by the time Eric and I would have ever had a shot at this, Will, we, man, they had taken us off of any kind of list like that. We're way too hot of an item to. to go to this thing. They don't want any Trumps anywhere near this. I can promise you that. But it is pretty amazing to watch all of these people try to make these political statements.

When you have arguably the wealthiest people and the most elite people in the country trying to somehow make their politics part of this whole thing. I think that's the one that very famously, AOC, were the dress that she got in trouble for to some number of years ago. But yeah, It is, it's quite a scene. It's, it's something that everybody in New York knows happens. And obviously now nationwide, everybody talks about it. But I don't understand a lot of the outfits. I think a lot of them just look crazy.

AOC wore her famous tax the rich dress. Yeah. To the Met Gala. And you bring up to many people have political messaging, but the political messaging always seems to revolve around one message, which is basically taxed the rich. And it's the oddest message at this Hunger Games display. of ostentatiousness. Because what you're talking about is some of the richest people with the most extravagant,

garish outfits, then saying something about the rich. I'll give you an example. This is this year's Mechalla. This is actress Sarah Paulson. According to the internet, she's worth $12 million. She's wearing a very flowy, lacy, gray dress. But as a mask, she's wearing a one-dress. bill, it looks like some fine holes are punched out where she can see through the $1 bill.

It's got a string. It goes around the back of her head, and she's wearing this $1 bill over her eyes. And it's apparently a message about the 1%. And she wasn't alone. And so it's the weirdest thing. We're not only the richest people gathering together for her in a very expensive evening, they're wearing ridiculously expensive and just ridiculous outfits and then sending a message about the problems with the rich. I mean, I don't know. And they're doing it in bulk in mass. Sarah Paulson wasn't alone.

There were many people that are putting this message together. It's like they don't have a mirror. They have a mirror into their outfit, but they don't have a mirror into their soul. Yeah. Well, and by the way, this is all happening. Again, in New York City, in a socialist run, some would almost say communist run city at this point. And so here you have all of these.

people apparently saying we need to hate rich people, but we're the ones. We're wearing all these outfits, all the jewels, all the things. The only person I kind of have to give a shout out to and maybe props to, although you probably won't ever hear me do this again, Will, is Mayor Mondani, who stayed far away from this. Usually the mayor of New York City attends these things. Had he gone, I think that would have just been the end of it. But yeah, he didn't show up. So yeah, it's just, it's sort of mind-boggling because this is what this group of people likes

to do. They love to preach. It's all very performative in the way that they go about it. And I get that these are like actors and stuff and that's what they do. But none of it resonates, none of it hits home. And it all feels so phony and gross because it is. It's just the average person has no idea what the mecgall is like. The average person is never going to go to the mek gala. They're never going to wear these outfits. And yet these people are supposed to be their champions. Give me a break. It's completely crazy. Right. I love that. The average person doesn't even know, has never heard of the Met Gala for the record.

The average person has never heard of the Met Gala. And let me introduce to you, average person, your champions. Your champions from the Hunger Games. Look at these people. And Dan can zoom in. You've got Sam Smith with the Internet is confusing with Travis Kelsey of the Kansas City Chiefs with some type of bird feathers extending from the back of his head as he looks like the vision of avian death in this black dress that is wearing. I don't know the names of these other people. I believe Rihanna is there in some type of hoop. That looks like Lady Gaga, who looks like a reptilian underworld creature. I don't know who the statue of liberty person is. That's pretty interesting. I assume that's a statue of liberty? Or is that like the ladies who yell shame in Game of Thrones, the high priestesses that ring the bell and yell shame?

I don't know. But the face is painted in white. These are your champions, ordinary people. Well, welcome to the Met Gala. Yeah, these are the people, well, telling us all, telling everyone that they need to do better and that they need to do so much more from their mansions behind gates. That's who you got there. Congrats, everybody.

What a win. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Well, while she was off mercifully during the White House correspondent's dinner, it's usually Saturday nights, it's my view with Laura Trump. Make sure you catch it. It's a great show.

A lot of exclusive interviews, in-depth interviews, and I think you'll enjoy it. as well right here on the Fox News Channel. Laura Trump, thanks so much for hanging out with us here today. You got it. Thank you, Will. Great to be with you. Great to be with you as well. Coming up, new details about the salacious sexual harassment case against J.P. Morgan, including one of the individuals involved lying about their father dying to get bereavement leave on Wilcane Country.

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Tinfoil Pat, two a days, Dan, here with us as well. Are you familiar with who some of these people are, fellows? Who is that in the... And is that a Statue of Liberty costume? What is that costume? Is that a high priestess? It's just supposed to be a just a regular statue. It's Heidi Kloom.

She goes all out usually. That's Heidi Kloom. The famous model. Incredible. Yeah. The other person making some waves out of the Met Gala is I'm going to need some help in the details. But the lady who played Snow White in the woke version of Snow White. She is just.

Rachel Ziegler. The thing she says. She went to the Met Gala. She's also wearing a bit of a mask. It's like a sheer piece of... There are names for all of this material. You're talking to the wrong guy. I think it's based on certain artwork.

So I think hers is based off of some sort of picture. Yeah, they're usually inspired by something in real life. Okay. But what was going on with her job? Rachel Ziegler was doing a thing on the red carpet with some very odd movements with her jaw. She was protruding her jaw in weird ways. This is a picture of her looking like she has a bit of an underbite. She at other times was sticking her jaw out a little cock-eyed.

Again, lower jaw in front of the upper teeth, but then off to the side. It was a very clear thing that she was doing. And now, Patrick, you're here to tell us what she was doing was actually leaning into a meme because people were making fun of some of the things she was doing with her jaw in Snow White. So I don't know if she was leaning into the meme or if it's something that she just does. No, I'm thinking about it. Yeah. I rewatch that scene from Snow White when I was looking for this image.

And I don't think she is intending to do this. I think she just is just doing it. I would say they're not very self-aware. Is that mewing? No, no. I don't think she's mewing. People also compared her to a past guest of ours, Destiny, the way he kind of handles his jaw.

It could be an OCD thing. It could be a medical thing. We don't know. Just saying. Also, then, what they do when you're on cocaine? Yeah. Also could be that. Yes.

Could be that. We're wearing weird things with your jaws. Hey man, we should really start business. Like Coke. Coke? Yeah, man. I got an idea. It's kind of great.

We should really get this going on. It's a golf course, but it's at night. Well, that's some of the best and greatest hits from the Met Gala. So there's an update. There's an update on our favorite story of the last two weeks. It's the story of the J.P. Morgan Chase Banker who has sued J.P. Morgan for employing his purported boss, the pretty sexy dominatrix, who took this poor Indian boy and turned him into a sex slave.

We discussed the details last Friday. Did me to laugh. She did horrific things. She did horrific things. like forced him into sex and told him I bet your wife doesn't have cannons like these by the way that's taken out a life of its own on the internet

I love it it's all very suspect as in it's a bit of AI driven romance fan fiction but it's also the details in a suit against J.P. Morgan Chiraya Rana filed suit Monday last week Once the story came out, he pulled his lawsuit on Wednesday.

There's now an update because Rana has refiled his lawsuit against J.P. Morgan. And he's refiled it purportedly with new details and new witnesses. He has, I guess, a family friend or owner of an apartment who claims that he witnessed some of this, specifically says he was asleep on the couch one night when the J.P. Morgan boss came over, came out of the bedroom, completely naked, sat on the couch, smoked a cigarette, and said, you need to come in here and join us. I own your friend, basically.

He wouldn't do so. She left a few hours later. He says he heard his friend saying, no, no, no. His friend came out. Tarayu Rana, shell-shocked a few hours later, and explained the horrible situation. This is an anonymous witness. who files what's called an affirmation to a lawsuit.

There was also another one, apparently, another anonymous affirmation that saw, as it Hadidi or Hadini, the boss, kissing the neck of Tarah, Urana. So they're witnesses. As well. So there's some anonymous witnesses who have filed affirmations. The headlider means ex-JP Morgan banker, Tarah, Urana, files wild new claims against exec, including lured threesome invitation, days after going viral with fabricated sex slave allegations.

J.P. Morgan says they're all fabricated. The defendant says they're all fabricated. What if it's all true? Imagine? Hold on, Patrick. Just for a moment, Dan asks the important question that we should all ask. We should ask this any time something is going viral. Don't shake your head.

I don't want you to offer any rebuttal or details for just one moment. I'm not. There is a hive mind. There is a hive mind mentality that is not going to, gotten better with the advent of the internet and supposedly independent information. I would argue it's gotten worse. We now are hive-minded with very little evidence, and we are an increasingly schizophrenic hive. We're those birds that come through. It seems like every spring, we get them in Texas. I don't know if y'all get them in your parts of the country. It's fascinating.

I'll be driving along sometimes, and the entire skyline will be filled with these birds. I don't know what they are. Greckles, blackbirds, I don't know. But you will literally sometimes look as far as you can see to the east and as far as you can see to the west, and they will all be there in the sky. Or they've landed, and you'll be in like a parking lot or at a stop sign,

and they're on every power line and every streetlight. And they are the biggest, most fascinating high you've ever seen. And when they take a turn, the whole thing takes a turn. It's fascinating. It's like, we're all going this way, and then 45-degree angle, turn, we're all headed that way. And it makes you wonder, who's the bird that initiates the turn? Which one goes left? And they all turn left. And they all just follow. Is there an alpha in bird

world? I don't know how that works. Or is it just a feeling that one bird gets and it spreads throughout the flock. And all of a sudden that feeling's like, they all feel it at the same time. Left, because by the way, there's no delay. It's not like the lead bird says left and it takes the guys a while to start changing course. They do it immediately. us. This is us on the internet. Leadership is shared with birds. Processing. So there you go. Leadership is shared. I think that is a very good analogy to the way we behave on social media.

This is who we are. So is it possible that we have all loved this story. It gets better with every detail, some of which I'm going to share with you more in a minute, that we have just flown into. ignoring the possibility, what if this is true? What if Tarah Urana is telling the truth? And he's going around in the world going, nobody will believe me. Why is nobody believing me?

This is way too. It's so specific. That's what I thought. These things are so specific. I'm like, it's just insane. I gave details. Yeah. I have the photos.

And nobody believes me. and everywhere he goes you know now it's even probably with his buddies like he's all he says he has PTSD that's the latest in his filing

he's like emotionally rattled and but everywhere he goes his buddies are like yeah dude totally we believe you or she from Niagara Falls area poor dude

breakfast club call out but yeah maybe what if it's true now I will say maybe this is where Patrick wanted to lead us. It doesn't help him that we're going to consider the fact that he could be to tell the truth. I'm just saying I have the full spectrum of what's going on. I'm not a bird flying.

I'm a lone wolf here. So you're a baldie. Going against the going away from the herd. You're not a baldew. I have all the information. You're not a lone wolf. You're not a you think you are. You're not a sigma. I am a sigma. How dare you? You, you, you, you're, you, you, How dare you? You're not a Sigma. I'm as a Sigma as they get. Do you, I'm willing to bet that the accuracy ratio of self-proclaimed sigma is less than 10%. Yeah.

Less than 10% of self-proclaimed sigmas are actually sigmas. They're simply at best, you are the reaction to the herd, which makes you only a reactionary, not a sigma. You are looking at the judgments of the flock. And when they turn left, you may say right, but that doesn't make you independent. It just makes you reactionary to the herd. In fact, one could argue you're just as wrapped up in the emotional decision-making of the herd. You're an op-o. You're the goth kid in high school.

You don't even like the fashion. You didn't take the time to go, you know what, I'm really into black. You just saw everybody else weren't to bright colors and reacted to it. And that didn't make you independent. you're simply the positive to the negative or the negative to the positive. You're not an actual force. A sigma is a force. You're just for every action there is a reaction.

I disagree. Solid rebuttal. See? Perfect. I disagree. Well, in his defense. as evidence, I would offer that we maybe shouldn't give Chirau Yorana the benefit of the doubt, that we're all a member of the hive mind because apparently he took some time off.

It looks like in retrospect to prepare this claim. He took time off for bereavement. I said his dad was dead. He needed some time to grieve. Apparently his dad has been contacted and he's very much alive. The headline reads ex-JP Morgan banker Chirau Yorana pretended his dad was dead to get bereavement leave, but he's alive. spoke to the post this weekend.

What do you call that in the law world? Like we're not a reliable claimant? Yeah, an uncredible witness. Maybe he would call the cross-examination. You'd call the cross-examination of Rana here by the New York Post impeaching the witness.

That's drawing his credibility into question. usually against his past words or in this case his past behavior. I'm hoping that Ron is telling the truth here and that you can just bring dads back from the dead because maybe mine can come back. Whoa. You know. That got dark. Yeah, whoa.

Yeah. That was Sigma. Oh, some real independence there. Very dark. That was different ways. See that coming. That was Sigma. Yeah.

He's like, I am goth, says Patrick. He's also saying I hope this guy did get assaulted, essentially. the debt what um think if the dad uh what are you going to do let's take quick break but we'll be right back on will cane country welcome back to will cane country i also want to bring you up today on a story we touched on a little bit earlier um there's more details coming out about congressman eric swalwell who is known a bit as the snapchat king on capital hill apparently what he was doing was he was sending X-rated videos, purview messages while married, as he admits affairs. That's a mainstream media headline to say he was taking pictures of his junk and he was

masturbating on camera and sending it out to chicks, including the fact his face was apparently available to be seen in some of these videos, which is pretty interesting, pretty interesting. How do you not know? Now, let's do the thing again on giving the benefit of the doubt. We gave it to Chirah Urana. Let's give it now to Eric Swalwell. Is there an element of Eric Swalwell set aside the infidelity that is saying to himself, man, everybody's doing this?

And that's what I do wonder. I do wonder. I do wonder what sort of the modern mating call is on Snapchat. And is what sounds like a lot of people on social media were saying, Oh, he Jeffrey Tubin. No, he didn't Jeffrey Toobin. That is an inaccurate comparison. That is not true.

Jeffrey Tubin pleasureed himself while on a work zoom and left his camera on. That is not the same thing. So this is when I don't like social media. And this is somebody on the right that was doing this. They all do this. It's like, I guess what really starts to offend me in the end is the really, really in case. or bad use of logic, just because you can put Jeffrey Tuben and Eric Swalwell in the same sentence. But the only thing you're using to put them in the same sentence is the concept of masturbation,

which quite honestly puts everybody in society into the same sentence. So that's not the same thing. Okay, you say, well, no, it's masturbation with a camera involved. We still have a large pool of people. That's my point. Jeffrey Tubin's was unique. What Jeffrey Tuben should live in eternal shame for is that he couldn't control himself while on a work zoom

that he was either bored or turned on by whatever was going on in that work zoom and decided to move on to other activities and didn't have the discipline enough to turn off his camera or the technological savvy to turn off his camera. That's very different than sending things over Snapchat, which I am here to suggest, and there will be people in the world of will clearly does it,

because he's saying, no, I'm very confident in saying, I've never done anything like this. but I do know a lot of people do. They do this. They send pictures that they should not be... They send pictures that they should not be sending. They send videos. That is right, Patrick.

This is what made its bones. Yes. The ghost logo. This is what made the bones on Snapchat. Videos and pictures that you hope disappear. But... And so I'm here to ask you, is there an element of Swalwell? Not to excuse him.

This does not excuse him because he is a sitting member of Congress and he was married. But does the actual behavior, is it that rare? And if the answer to that is no, we have a much more interesting discussion to have about how many people in office are doing this? How common is this? How many people could be busted? Because I will tell you right now, the one thing these people are missing is risk calculation. Like, did Swalwell never sit down and go, this could come back to bite me? Everything comes out now.

Yes. What are you thinking about? But there is a difference between is it unsolicited and solicited? You know what I mean? If he's just throwing around willy-nilly. That's fair. Pun intended. Just throwing it out there to people, that's different than having a sexual kind of relationship over this with somebody.

Because then, you know, that's harassment. Just thinking out loud. I once heard this discussion. It was on local radio. They said this. All right. ladies do you ever wonder why men behave certain ways why they dress certain ways when you look at a guy and you go he is a complete d-bag why does he dress like that why does he behave like that there is

an answer and the answer is not always but often because it works i'm not telling you it works all the time i'm not telling you he's batting a thousand i'm so i'm even suggesting he's got hall of fame numbers of batting 30%, 33. I'm not even suggesting that. But I'm suggesting he gets a single every once in a while. Otherwise, he'd switch it up. It works here and there. And so what I would say is, for those guys that are doing that, Dan, it must be working

here and there. They must be batting somewhere north of zero. Otherwise, they probably wouldn't continue to take swings at the plate. Agreed. I would say higher than that. Just throw things at the wall, see what sticks. I can't stop, you know. But, you know, it's a tough thing to do.

I mean, the married thing is one thing. Having an affair is, you know, illicit behavior. You shouldn't be doing it anyways. But being in his position, it makes it tenfold. Well, and to be clear, Swalwell's, Swalwell, I'm more interested in this as a conversation, you know, broadly, abstractly. When it comes to Swalwell, specifically, I'm not looking to be an apologist for Swalwell because his sins are much greater than simply infidelity.

His sins are, he's accused of not just online, but in-person sexual harassment. He's accused of sleeping with Chinese spies. He's accused of doing all sorts of things while not just holding office, but seeking higher office. So this is really in the end, not so much about Swalwell, but I saw this. I saw the comparison to Tubman. And I began to think, I think there's a lot of people. Here's one other thing I will say. I think there's a lot of people on social media who preach a certain message and behave a different way. And it's not just the politicians.

It's the Commentariat class. It's the influencer class. It's the aggregator class. It's the attention-seeking class. That they portray themselves a certain way while. doing other things that if their laundry was exposed. And again, it's not an excuse. It just makes, I'm getting tired of us.

I'm getting tired of me's. You follow? I'm getting tired of wills. There's too many people out there, and I'm not trying to take down the quantity of competition. I'm just suggesting, there's too many people out there that every single thing is about their own personal virtue, their own personal influence, their own personal opinion.

it's just too much. It's like being in a room, you know, and standing around with a bunch of dudes, and everybody's in a competition to say the most definitive thing. It's exhausting. And be the most right. It's not fun.

And be the most right. Yeah. By the way, the wrong business. Go ahead, Patrick. Sorry, I was going to say those Snapchat videos never go away anyways. They're in a database somewhere,

so people will be careful. Well, there's also just tricks. obviously if you have two devices you can use one to record the other you know what i mean any any 20 year old knows that you have two devices everybody has whether it's ipad and phone or two phones to um dance point everybody knows this it should occur to everybody nothing like the idea with snapchat was that you would know if somebody took a screenshot right or you would know if somebody recorded your video, it's supposed to disappear. And if they do that, you get a warning or a thing like, that person did this.

Too late, though. I'm not sure what your... Yeah, I don't know what your recourse is. They did it, and now you know... Yeah. But they can use a secondary device to record it, and you'll never know. How do you think all these videos get out there? Have you not even seen those before, Patrick?

All the time. Like, you've seen the videos and you can tell somebody is recording a phone. I'm very, I don't know, gullible and naive. and I just, I'm always shocked when people do these things. I still don't, don't expect it to be something that people do. I'm not surprised by anything anybody does anymore, honestly, at all. Over in the militia, Gene Hendrick says, it's jail, not a hotel, referencing the would-be assassin of President Donald Trump.

Eric David says, trespassing. I'm not sure what that's in reference. The trespassing charge. Two. Louis Boo says judges corrupted. Eric David comes back after telling us his trespass and say, Cole is actually lucky they didn't take him out from firing rounds. Yeah, of course, he is. He's very lucky that he's alive today.

Scott Reed says these judges need to be locked up. This is getting out of control. Is this uncommon for judges? To make an opinion like this, that's uncommon, right? I'd imagine. I think that like the rest of our society, judges have lost their minds. They put themselves in it. Not many have lost their minds.

We just can't separate anything. They can't separate anything from Donald Trump. There is nothing that is separated from Donald Trump. Back to that comment that we got yesterday from someone else on the left who thinks that Mike Mitchell, I say Trump can do no wrong. or that in my eyes, Trump can do no wrong. You know, I do think, well, I think a couple of things. I think that I always need to have some level of self-awareness that if I have gotten to that place, you know?

And you know that whole little speech I gave just messing with Patrick a minute ago about being reactionary to the flock and to the herd? I also, what I think is this, Mike, I think that for a great, great, great many people in this country, like a significant, significant percentage. I would even offer up 40% of our population. They have really, it sounds partisan, and it sounds dismissive for me to call it Trump derangement syndrome, but they have fallen into the trap of,

and it's really more interesting to me than dismissively partisan talk of Trump derangement syndrome. I really think it is a fascinating psychological exercise to think that a lot of people have now, not just formed their own identity, but develop the incapability of seeing anything outside of the prism of Donald Trump. And it is, you know, he's already been turned into a hero or villain. So therefore, if you're analyzing it through the prism of Donald Trump and you hate Donald Trump and you're in that 40%,

then you come away with he can do no right. And I ask myself, don't be the bird that flies in the opposite direction. Don't be ten-foil pat. Don't be because I don't like the opinions of that 40%. The person that says, no, he's always right. Not always wrong. He's always right. So I do try to achieve some level of self-awareness on that. truly believe that Donald Trump is certainly the most important, most significant. And I'm being up front in my eyes, I do think he's probably the best president, at least of the last century. I truly do. I truly think that things are changed. I think he has given us a lesson in action, action. He has shown that the presidency is not impotent, that you can do things. Now, you can disagree with the things that he does. you can agree with the things that he does,

and I think most things he does should be judged on a larger timeline than the one that we currently live in. But whether or not we're talking about tariffs, immigration, deportation, and something that I am a bit more skeptical of, and I think that most people listen to this program and watch the Will Kane Show think can understand. I do have some skepticism about the war in Iran. The skepticism arrives from the question I asked on the day one,

how does it serve America's interest first, you know? And I've heard the various arguments. I find some of them, I find many of them carrying weight. I'm not sure they carry the full burden of proof of the evidence to satisfy the question, which I think should be very high when involved in military conflict of serving America first. So it's not that I think Donald Trump can do no wrong, but I do think he is probably the best president of the last 100 years and that his action should be judged over a larger timeline than simply the current psychosis moment that we live in.

I do think that history will probably, once it sort of heals from this psychosis, look back at this presidency and go, wow, that was really, really, really significant and mostly positive. That is, that is my opinion. But I do, in all honesty, strive for self-awareness on that to make sure I'm not someone who says he can simply do no wrong. That doesn't become my prison. I'm not the bird just flying in the opposite direction. One last thing before we get out of today. I saw this too, Patrick. I saw you send this in.

And I just think this is worth looking at because, or Dan actually sent this in, it shows a bit how at one time we were capable of having serious conversations and we've lost the ability to have a serious conversation. 28 years ago today, Sports Illustrated, had this cover. If you're watching on YouTube or Facebook, you can see this cover. if you're listening on Spotify or an Apple, you can see this. 28 years ago today. That means it was in 1998. The cover of Sports Illustrated is a young black man holding a basketball, probably four or five years old, with the headline, Where's Daddy? On the side, it says special report.

Sports Illustrated. Pro athletes have fathered startling numbers of out-of-wedlocked children. One NBA star has seven by six women. paternity cases have disrupted teams. What's happening and what does it mean for the kids left behind? That is a very serious subject, a real subject, a real problem, not just for professional athletes. Sports Illustrated, so they're focused on the sports angle of this. But, I mean, we talked about it, 70% of black children, I think it's 70 to 75% of black children.

are raised in a home without a father, that is a huge, huge societal ill. If like me, you believe that the family is the fundamental building block of civilization, and I think that is almost undebatable, and I think it is, it can't be overstated in its importance. If the family is the fundamental building block of civilization, this right here is a breakdown in civilizational ability to advance. It doesn't mean that people can't come out of these situations. Dan, I think you've shared some of your situation. There are other people who have had situations that are not ideal family environments,

and it doesn't mean you can't be a successful person. But it is really placing the individual behind the eight ball, and at a macro scale, it is devastating to an entire population. And I think it's shocking that 28 years ago today you could talk about this, and I don't think outside of the confines of Fox News, you could get this conversation today. Yeah, I was surprised when I saw it, I had to double check if it was real. I mean, it's a heavy topic.

You would never see this on the stands today. It just, it wouldn't happen. I mean, it's a conversation to have, but, like, imagine if you saw this right now, the uproar would be. You can't imagine. Wow. Certainly not from Sports Illustrated. Not from ESPN. All right.

I now have the hiccups, which is a. good time to go ahead and wind up this show. Hold on, hold on. I know it's from. You can see I have the hiccups. No, why would you just in the show? I have the hiccups. Go ahead, Patrick. No, no, no. So you say that I'm, I'm reactionary, but I react negatively to the reactionary, the reactionary people. So I'm reactionary to the reactionaries now as well. So what is that? That's going to do it for us today. We'll see you again next time. Listen to ad-free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcasts. And Amazon Prime members, you can listen to this show, ad-free on the Amazon Music app.