Will Cain Country - Why The Press Was Finally Allowed To Turn On Biden? PLUS, Johnny Joey Jones

Episode Date: July 9, 2024

Story #1: They turned on a dime. The press did a 180 degree turn on President Biden overnight. But why was it that they finally decided to do their jobs? Story #2: MrBeast declared that he wants to ...run for President, although he's currently blocked from doing so. Would you rather have a 30-year-old or an 80-year-old run the country? That and much more with FOX News Contributor Johnny Joey Jones. Story #3: Will and the crew discuss Will's top ten state flags rankings.  Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 One, they turned on a dime. 180 degrees overnight. The press went not just from curious, but to badgering President Biden over whether or not he has Parkinson's. Yeah, we should condemn the press for all of a sudden their new faithful commitment to the truth. But I'm interested in how. and why have they changed literally overnight in how they cover President Biden? Two, Mr. B says he'd like to run for president. Would you rather have a too young YouTube star or an octogenarian as your president with Joey Jones.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Three, top 10 state flags in America. It is the Will Cain Show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel, the Fox News Facebook page, and always on demand. Should you be listening to The Will Cain Show on Terrestrial Radio Market to Market, Houston, San Antonio, Idaho. Just hit subscribe on Apple or Spotify, and you can listen to the Will Cain Show no matter wherever you are. Stuck in traffic, or as the guys in the Willis like to say, why do you always bring up the treadmill? because people walk on the treadmill. Hit subscribe and the text leak underneath this live stream, and you can join the Will Kane Show on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:01:37 On our channel there, you'll find interviews. Like the one we did yesterday with Project 2025 author, the President of Heritage Kevin Roberts. A little bit later in the show today, we're going to discuss why we would discuss Project 25, 2025. Just hit subscribe on YouTube. Fellas, Willisha, Young Establishment James,
Starting point is 00:02:00 Two at A's, Dan. People listen to podcasts on the treadmill. Now, I know you're young and or don't exercise, but people walk on the treadmill, and then they listen to podcasts. It's just so specific that you bring it up every time. Just the treadmill.
Starting point is 00:02:20 You only say the treadmill. I get walking. Instead of walking on the street. That makes it. sense you're walking home from work you got a podcast in but the treadmill nobody walks home from work except for people in new york city that's a good point um i got a buddy in fact so a little bit of i've got a buddy who is in phenomenal shape from simply lifting and walking um but i was thinking about that buddy this pre show here today on the will cane show because um i said to to today
Starting point is 00:02:52 what do you think of the shirt what do you think about what i'm rocking today on the will cane show what's the review it's okay i mean can you explain it for the for the radio and the podcast audience if you don't mind short sleeve button down little symbols and emblems that represent the state of texas i've got a guitar i've got the outline of the state of texas i've got cows i've got boots i've got the state capital it's made by burlabo and what's the review so did i mean did you hit the back nine yet or what's going on here? I mean, is that golfing? Is this a new hobby? The color aesthetic is it kind of like a Sunday brunch, but with... Okay. So... It's a me. It's a me. It's... It's an off white with little blue emblems.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Here's why I bring it up, and I bring up that buddy. You know, there is a range of social occasion that leaves you in the fashion no man's land. Okay, follow me here. You know, If you're at work for many, not many anymore, but for a lot, you're wearing a suit. And there's only so much I can glean from you in a suit, right? There is some variation. There's some bandwidth, and I can see how well you put together your suit. But the bandwidth of variability is much smaller. So I can look at, you know, your shoes, your suit, and I can see the choices that you made.
Starting point is 00:04:17 And it tells me something about your personality. But there are fewer choices that you made when it comes to a suit. If you're dressed all the way down, all the way, like just work. workout or above. Same scenario. You've got some kind of athletic sneakers on. You got some shorts and you got a t-shirt. Again, you're in a pretty tight bandwidth. And so you've only made so many choices and I've only learned so much about you. But there is the middle ground that says who you are, right? This is when you're going to dinner on a Saturday night. This is, honestly, increasingly casual day at work and more and more work environments are casual day. And so it's like, what did you?
Starting point is 00:04:56 choose to wear, did you wear, you know, the modern trend of the dress up, or the dress down dress shoe, you know what I'm talking about, or the dress up sneaker? Yeah. Like, they make these, you know, white sneakers made by, like, Cole Hahn and Alan Edmonds, or did you go a little more hip? Did you go full, like, white Stan Smith? Or did you go, like, I'm a 50-year-old dude and I got my A6 trainers on, no matter and wherever I go, you know, but the point is I get to see more things about you and the choices
Starting point is 00:05:33 you make in this range. And I think this show exists in that range. And I'm not, like most dudes, not that comfortable in that range. Like, what do we do here? This show is not a suit. It's not even a button down. It used to be a t-shirt, but now I feel like I have to dress up above the t-shirt, so I'm stuck in this like what you would describe two a days as I'm about to go play golf. Yeah, I mean, it's a good look for the show. It's the same vibe. We have to wear a little, like probably button down because we're here in the corporate
Starting point is 00:06:05 offices, which you wear a suit when you're here. So it's different when you're there doing the show. Maybe some cowboy boots do it for you. So I feel like the guy I am, the style I am, and the place I grew up answers a lot of these social equations for me. Like, I can wear boots and jeans to all of those scenarios I just described, right? It's just summertime is the knuckle ball, not even a curve ball, because now it's hot, and now I've got to figure out tennis shoes, and I've got to figure out shorts, and that means I've got to figure out a shirt. And it's just, I guarantee you, everybody listening
Starting point is 00:06:41 right now, there's a bunch of dudes going, yes, this range is the mystery range. Because we know that we're capable of making choices, and those choices tell everyone, oh, you're the preppy golf guy or you're the garage band guy like two a days and or you're the country club guy like James who's wearing inexplicably a vest in July today doesn't even make a bit of sense it's not cold establishment what are you doing wearing a vest in July it's very cold in the Fox office they got to crank down to like 65 he's going Glenn Yonkin all day every day we're trying to we're trying to push Glenn Yonkin and to existence. Dark Horse. Let me explain you something, James. No one believes you're cold. No one.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Everyone knows that the vest is the modern-day man girdle. Everyone knows that a dude puts on a vest. Everyone knows that a dude puts on a vest to slim down and shape up. It makes you think your shoulders broader and your waist slimmer. You're not cold. Called out. No one believes that. Oh, you're right.
Starting point is 00:07:49 I know I'm right. I know I'm right, because I do it too. This is why people, why white dudes wear a vest. It's true. Just finished P2. And it's slightly dressed up from, it feels like a slightly more completed look than just the button down. That's why we do vest. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:08 So the show that exists in the awkward range of fashion, by the way, this shirt given to me by Joey Jones, who will be our guest coming up in segment two here on the Will Cane show. But let's talk about why the press has found Jesus. Story one. Corrine John Pierre, White House spokesperson yesterday, took it on the chin. It was an absolute feeding frenzy at the White House press gallery over the president's mental competency, over the report that a Parkinson's specialist has visited the White House nine times since 2020. 23. And what you will hear are not just the non-answers. What you will hear is not just the breaking news about the confirmation that a Parkinson's specialist has visited the White House, but you will hear tonally, an entirely different White House press corps.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Very basic direct question. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait a second. Wait. Hold on a second. But you should be able to answer by this point. Wait, no, no, no, no, no, no, wait a minute. Ed, please, a little respect here, please. So every year around the president's physical examination, he sees a neurologist. That's three times, right? So I am telling you that he has seen a neurologist three times while he has been in this presidency. And it is in the reporting that we share a comprehensive report.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Matter of fact, it's more than what the last guy shared, and it is in line with what George W. Bush did. It's in line with what Obama did. She said security concerns, quote-unquote security concerns kept her from telling them more about the visit by Dr. Kevin Kinnard, a Parkinson's specialist, to Dr. Kevin O'Connor, the White House physician, the president's doctor. nine times since 2003. Couldn't share exactly. Any details of those visits due to security concerns.
Starting point is 00:10:26 That is concerning in and of itself, A, that they are hiding from the public, that the president may be examined for Parkinson's, but B, that the president may in fact be suffering from Parkinson's while asking for renewal on his job for another four years.
Starting point is 00:10:42 But what I find most interesting is the nature of the press. relentless, badgering. And it happened overnight. It happened starting the Friday after that CNN presidential debate. And it's been happening daily to not just Korean Jean-Pierre, but here is the press on July 5th talking to President Biden. Are you going to stop out of the race for you completely ruling that out? Mr. President, how can you, on the person to look base because democracy is a risk that you are the best candidate to be that you guys? because I've beaten him before and I've gotten more done than any president has.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Completely ruling out, dropping out of the race. They are all over him, not just with questions, but follow-up questions. And they are leading. They are writing headlines. They are covering the front page. This is the front page of CNN.com today. And it has been this way every day, leading with stories about Joe Biden. how many Democrats have divorced themselves from Joe Biden, his mental competency, and even now talking about Parkinson's.
Starting point is 00:11:53 This is notably different from the way that Joe Biden was covered the day before the CNN presidential debate. Why? How did this happen? Let's walk through this for just a moment. It's almost as though a talking point memo went out and everybody fell in line that the press works for Democrats. I will tell you that I have been inside of quote unquote mainstream media enough on massive group email chains, whether or not that's at ESPN, the subsidiary of Disney or CNN, to know that if some type of marching orders went out, I would have discovered these types of talking points. I would have seen everyone fall in line. I would have wondered who was the wizard of Oz behind the curtain. I don't believe there is any type of legitimate marching orders given to the press. I think the answer is more in that the press is a group of lemmings, a mob, susceptible to group think.
Starting point is 00:13:01 And once the lemmings begin to move in a certain direction, they move in mass. So we have to start with this. media like any other industry is susceptible to group think it's susceptible to ideological capture the vast majority of people that work in the oil and gas field are conservative the vast majority of people that work in finance or at least center right the vast majority of people that work in media are ideologically on the left now they're not completely stupid but they're not smart they're smart like a wildebeest crossing the river they know if they go out on their own they'll be got by the
Starting point is 00:13:40 alligator so they move in herds they feel safe when the entire group of wildebeest is moving in one direction they can hide in the middle safe from the alligator so once the herd starts to turn the entirety turns in this case has turned against joe biden but there still is a lead wildebeest there still is a lead lemming and that's this is how that works and it goes back to the ideological capture there are people who earn respect who they consider to be smart, to whom they outsource their judgment. And those people are not just inevitably on the left, but are often political hacks that are Democrats. Okay, we have many examples we can show you.
Starting point is 00:14:27 George Stephanopoulos goes from being the White House press secretary under Bill Clinton to one of the top two journalists. I don't want to insult him. He may consider himself the number one journalist. mainstream journalist at ABC. I would imagine it would be a debate between he and David Muir, but he would have a rightful claim should he want to say he's number one. He's the one that got to sit down with Joe Biden. So not only are they comfortable pawning off a partisan as an objective journalist, they
Starting point is 00:14:57 respect him as someone who they believe is smart and is objective and can be a mainstream journalist. after Obama's elected president, people like Stephanie Cutter are hired to CNN. Jin Saki now hired to MSNBC. Now, this is not to say it doesn't happen on the right. I mean, Dana Perino works at Fox, but Fox is a singular outlet. That's the point. That's why Fox is so reviled.
Starting point is 00:15:25 That's why Fox is so attacked because every other outlet does the opposite. They hire and respect and outsource their judgment to the experts who inevitably happen to come from Democrats. The instinct to trust experts has been laid bare. You know that. They have not tried any source of independent thinking, and they have reviled those who do their own research. They have said, follow the experts. And when it comes to political analysis or news, they believe those experts are not just on the left, but are Democrats. Now, these individuals, starting the night of the CNN presidential debate, do get the talking points, are in the Slack chats, are on Twitter together.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Van Jones, Jen Saki now, these people, David Axelrod, set in motion a course of advance that night to see in presidential debate that gives permission to, but not just permission, points the direction for the wildebeests to run, and the press follows suit. They can now run and badger and go after Joe Biden because the expert, the smart person, the outsourced judgment, has pointed them. in the right direction. Now that leaves you with some answer as to why and what happened overnight on a 180 degree turn in how they cover Joe Biden. I want to give you one final example of how quickly this can turn. Brian Stelter used to be the host of reliable sources on CNN. I think he is now unemployed, but reliable sources was a media criticism show. He considers himself to be a fair-minded and objective media critic. We all know that to not be the case. But look how voraciously, with what kind of renewed vigor he's interested in journalism that
Starting point is 00:17:15 explores President Biden and the truth. This was a tweet that he went out that showed that he not only posted the Axios article talking about how the White House press corps has been, quote, deceived, but he liked a tweet by West Village guy saying if you're renewed interest in the truth, you might want to look into Ashley Biden's diary. He liked it. All of a sudden, the lemmings don't know the specifics. They're not specifically ready to investigate Hunter Biden's corruption scandals with Ukraine or China.
Starting point is 00:17:53 They're not ready necessarily to go into Ashley Biden, but they've been pointed in the right direction with the experts that they can attack. Go after, badger, ask questions, even seek the truth, at least in part, when it comes to Joe Biden. Let's explore exactly why and how they turned on Joe Biden overnight and discuss whether or not you rather have Mr. Beast or an octogenarian as president. With Fox News contributor and our friend Joey Jones next on the Will Cain Show. Hey, I'm Trey Gowdy host of the Trey Gowdy podcast. I hope you will join me every Tuesday and Thursday. as we navigate life together and hopefully find ourselves
Starting point is 00:18:33 a little bit better on the other side. Listen and follow now at Fox Newspodcast.com. I'm Janice Dean. Join me every Sunday as I focus on stories of hope and people who are truly rays of sunshine in their community and across the world. Listen and follow now at Fox Newspodcast.com.
Starting point is 00:19:00 No matter how badgered, it doesn't appear as President Biden will be dropping out of the race for president in 2024. It is the Will Cain Show streaming live at Fox News.com, the Fox News YouTube channel, and the Fox News Facebook page. Hit subscribe, Apple, Spotify, or on YouTube. Jump into the comments section. Join the Willis show. Ryan Edwards on YouTube says, maybe the neurologist needed to see a neurologist. Sue Gordon says on YouTube, people are finally realizing we've been gaslit for years. should be ashamed of herself. She's always been a poor spokesperson. His health problems
Starting point is 00:19:34 more than Parkinson's. He is senile. You know, I was listening to a clip from the view talking about the threat to democracy that is Donald Trump. They didn't care if Joe Biden was comatose. They would vote for Joe Biden over the threat to democracy that is Donald Trump. And it got me thinking, let's just fast forward. Let's just fast forward. four years. Let's presume for a moment that Donald Trump is president in the United States and he peacefully exits his second and final term as president. After a decade of suggesting he's a threat to democracy and we're on our way to authoritarianism, will saving democracy join the following hoaxes? The fine people hoax, the bleach hoax, the sucker and losers
Starting point is 00:20:23 hoax, the January 6th insurrection host, the director for a day, dictator for a day hoax, the Project 2025 hoax, the presidential immunity hoax, the climate change hoax, the it's just a cold why I performed poorly in the debate hoax. Will Alyssa Farah and Joy Behar and every other person who spent a decade working the public up into a frenzy, a frothing mouth fear that we're on the edge of losing our democracy, finally be discredited and never listened to again by the American public, just in our hypothetical, would it finally break the back, or would they just move on to the next hoax? No matter how much they badger him, President Biden is not leaving the race.
Starting point is 00:21:10 That's what he told, Morning Joe. The American public is not going to move away from me as an average voter. And again, I'm here for two reasons, pal. One, to rebuild the economy for hard work and middle class people give everybody a shot. Just a straight shot. Everybody gets a fair chance. Number one, number two, remember all of us talk about how I don't have the black support. Come on, give me a break.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Come with me, watch, watch. I'm getting so frustrated by the elites. Now, I'm not talking about you guys, but about the elite in the party, who they know so much more. If any of these guys don't think I should run against me, announce the president, challenge me at the convention. Are this the host of Morning Joe? In the party? I'm frustrated with the leaks in the party. I'm not talking about you guys. Well, I wouldn't think you were unless they're actually in the tent, in the party.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Let's discuss that with our friend, Marine, EOD Tech, Fox News contributor, my friend Joey Jones here on the Will Can Show. What's up, man? Hey, man, how's going? I like that shirt, by the way. I like it a lot. I didn't like it enough to want to wear it myself. That's what I was going to say. You gave it to me. You told me you weren't going to wear it. I don't know how much I should trust that you actually like the shirt. No, I didn't feel worthy. It's too Texas for me. It's not Georgia.
Starting point is 00:22:36 That's it. Yeah. Joey, if this were a Georgia burlabo shirt, what would be the symbols of Georgia all over? Like, I got cowboy boots, and I've got, I got white-tailed deer, I've got the state capital. I've got all kinds of things going on here. Would you just have, like, Georgia peaches? Like, what is, like, what are the top three? symbols of Georgia.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Yeah, you know, there are some companies that make shirts. Like, I actually keep this shirt right here, this Georgia shirt around. This is from a company called Roboc. And it's just the outline of the state of Georgia. That's the thing is, like, Texas has so much of an identity that no other state really has. And if it's Georgia, it's got to be like bold peanuts and peaches. But you go to South Georgia, you've got other stuff. North Georgia, you've got mountains.
Starting point is 00:23:22 So you guys just have an identity that no other state has. And if I were you, I'd brag about every chance they get in most of the Texans I know do. So that's just kind of, is what it is. Yeah, I know. I know that you lived in Texas for a while, and some of that bragging even turned you off, as would be expected for somebody prideful of where they come from, like Georgia. By the way, coming up in just a moment on the Wilcane show, I'm going to rank my top 10 state flags. So I've got a good list for you coming up here on the Wilcane show. Hey, Joey, why do you think the press has turned and turned overnight, overnight on Joe Biden? I feel like everything good I have to say about this. I'm stealing from
Starting point is 00:23:57 somebody else. I'll try to attribute some of these thoughts. But I was on with Tammy Bruce Saturday night. She said, hey, they're not reacting to Biden's performance in the debate. They're reacting to the reality of the polls. And I think that's exactly right. If all these people in the press were concerned about who's leading our country and that they may not have the mental faculties to get us through a crisis, then they wouldn't be using lines like prove to us it wasn't just 90 minutes. Anyone with eyes and ears that isn't on board on a Democrat or liberal team knows already it wasn't
Starting point is 00:24:31 just 90 minutes. It was it wasn't just 90 minutes before the debate happened. Everything was already there. I made the joke, let's interview the Easter Bunny. But that was a viral moment of dozens, if not hundreds like that, where the President of the United
Starting point is 00:24:47 States is so confused in the moment. He needs someone in an Easter Bunny costume to remind him where to turn his body in which way to walk. The idea that this is new, the idea that this is a revelation and epiphany, the idea that those in the press just gained courage they didn't have. That's absolutely not true. They came to the reality that Donald Trump is going to perform better than Joe Biden through the debates and through
Starting point is 00:25:12 the campaign that all the attacks on Donald Trump through court cases are not affecting his ability to get elected at all. And this is the moment. You either do it now or if you're waiting longer, you wait too late. So this is not about if Joe Biden, you know, is in such a decline that now's the moment. No, this is literally about who's going to win the election, the Democrats are Republicans, Donald Trump, or literally anyone else. I still, though, I believe you're right. I believe that's correct from Tammy Bruce.
Starting point is 00:25:43 But I still, I do wonder how they go about the process of self-justification. So that's what I was trying to explore in my monologue here today on the Will Kane show. Down deep, I know that you and Tammy are right. They're responding to the prospect of a loss, but that's not what they tell themselves, Joey. I've been around them. They don't consider themselves to be partisan hacks. They just think the truth exists on the side of their partisan hackery. So I just kind of, like I wonder how it is that Brian Stelter wakes up and all of a sudden is concerned about the way the press has been diluted by the Biden administration.
Starting point is 00:26:25 That's his words. I'm not saying that's the way it was. But, you know, his justification is, you've lied to us for a better part of two or three years. Joe Biden's not actually sharp as attack. And I just wonder how they make themselves feel good about turning on a dime. And I think the answer for me in part is, well, because everybody else is. So if everybody else is, then I can turn on a dime.
Starting point is 00:26:51 That's exactly right. They feel safe in delivering an opinion they already have. because the people reading and the people listening and the people watching that they feel safe. Oh, they're receptive to it. I see them tweeting about it now. I see them. They've been exposed to it. So now I feel safe.
Starting point is 00:27:06 I don't think it's a new opinion. I think the majority of them already had the opinion. We look at that Olivia Nussie was a New York magazine piece. She said she's been working on it since January. She didn't have the courage to put something like that out there. Probably didn't know if her bosses would support her in putting something like that out there until the conference. the conversation on Twitter and the viewers and the readers has turned. And now there's some safe space to explore this thought that they've already had.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Great example. Great example. The timing of that piece and the fact that it came out literally a week after that debate. Yeah. From information that she had gathered in the fall and in the winter shows you exactly that. I think that she just felt safe. Oh, and by the way, we should give her a slight bit of an asterisk. possible, to your point on her bosses, she couldn't have gotten it published before. Exactly. The editors wouldn't have pushed it through New York Magazine. So, you know, what we're talking about, Joey, is like, whether or not someone considers their job to tell the truth or whether or not somebody considers their job to carry the
Starting point is 00:28:12 water for a party or an ideology. So yesterday, here on the Wilcantia, we did a segment with Kevin Roberts, the president of Heritage on Project 2025. Project 2025 is an outsourced. It's not even outsourced. It's an independent vision of how to govern a second term for President Trump. President Trump has distanced himself because it's become the demon of the left. They've really, I mean, they have, like, actors like Mark Ruffalo have called it the path to American Taliban. But we talked about it because I consider my job to be discuss the truth.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I don't, I'd like to think I approach my job differently than those on the left. I both am honest about my biases. I have opinions. I share my opinions, but I also don't consider my job to carry water for the outcome of a political party. So this is the kind of comment we got yesterday, Joey, when it came to project 2025. This is from YouTube. DeRoe 2 says, this project is raising a lot of eyebrows. Put it on the back burner, and let's go for the win without any distractions. There's a lot of that. So I got criticism from the left and the right about that discussion. The right is, why are you talking about
Starting point is 00:29:22 this. The left wants to talk about it. Why are you talking about it? And my answer to that, Joey, is because my job isn't to effectuate a quote-unquote win. My job is to tell the truth. And I'm really confident, by the way, that the truth leads to a win for what I believe to be right. No, I love that. Let me tell you, I consider a good day, a day where I open Twitter or X, and I've gotten an equal amount I hate coming from both sides, because that means I was honest about something. And I enjoy that. If I go on there and say, you know, like nine times out of 10, I'm voting for President Trump over anybody the Democrats can put up there. I don't know if there is probably 10 times out of 10. That's different than saying I know President Trump has the plan in
Starting point is 00:30:07 place to go fix this country. The truth is, when he took over in 2016, I don't believe the country was broken. The country was held back. It was held back by policies that President Obama had locked himself into probably later on in his tenure wishing he had and in policies that held our country back. President Trump came in and said, whoa, whoa, whoa, this is pretty easy. Let's get rid of some of this regulation. Let's get rid of some of this government interference and open ourselves up. And while we're doing it, let's let these other organizations or treaties and countries like China take advantage of us. And all of a sudden economic prosperity boom, in part because people had more faith. And sometimes when you look at how money is traded and
Starting point is 00:30:47 the economy grows, it's just people want to take a little bit more risk, and that does a lot for our economy. It's a lot different now. I think our country's broke. I think our country has a broken soul, a broken border, a broken military, a broken society, a broken defense, a broken Congress. And just about every metric, our country is not just being held back, but now it's defunct, deficient in a lot of ways. I don't know if President Trump has the playbook for that. I want to know more about what his plan is. It's great to not be Joe Biden, but that doesn't mean it's going to win after you win the election.
Starting point is 00:31:25 It's going to actually fix things. So I would like to know more about this. You know, this project 2025 is 922 digital pages. Take me a month to read through it because I read Slope in Georgia. If you read their top line and you've gone through this, the top four tenants are things that I fully agree with as a singular sentence alone, how they look to implement it, I don't know. They tout the fact that they were influential
Starting point is 00:31:48 and President Reagan developing his platform, but here's the reason why Project 2025 gets to own the conversation on the left. When President Trump ran in 2020, if I'm not mistaken, they never put out a party platform. They didn't actually put an agenda out, America first, secure the border, taglines and talking points, but they didn't write out an agenda like you normally do at a convention. I may be mistaken, but that's what I remember.
Starting point is 00:32:13 And so if we do the same thing again, then something is going to own the conversation. They are going to be able to define you if you don't define yourself, simply saying close the border isn't enough. Simply saying fix our military isn't enough. It's time now going through the convention to talk about what those policies look like and what you're going to do different. And I think that is our responsibility, not just as people in the media, but it's people that vote. And so my responsibility is the leader of a household to talk about these things. I've got a 14-year-old son that loves to talk about politics, not because he decides something, but he's trying to learn. And so if I'm going to talk about these things, I need to be informed on who may influence the president.
Starting point is 00:32:52 I mean, you look at the organization signed off on this, and it's organizations that President Trump has showed up in front of and spoken to. So the idea that this could be influential in a positive or negative way is that's worth the conversation. You know, Joey, a buddy of mine is Joe Tessitore. Joe Tessitore calls college football for ESPN, and he was just high. as of today as the new announcer for WWE. I remember the first time I ran into Tessator at the halls of ESPN. He said, in his just unique and quintessential voice, talking about me on first date.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Kane, you are a counterpuncher. You bob, you weave, you throw the counterpunch. You wait for the mistake and you respond. And it's true. It's a little bit in my nature. So when I see Mark Ruffalo or any other number of people painting Project 2025 as a reinvention of the American Taliban, it's my name. to say, no, that's not the truth.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Let's counterpunch back and actually see if we can shine some light on that truth and tell people what it actually is. And then as a response to that, you're not just going to get, I didn't just get pushed back from the right. I got it from the left. Look at this. We are now, I'm happy to discuss this with anybody that thinks we made the wrong decision, but the Will Kane show on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:34:05 And we got a lot of hatred over our shining light on Project 2025 on TikTok. This one is from Twitter. Finn Fox, hashtag GOP War on Women, says, Who are you? In response to me and Kevin Roberts discussing Project 2025. Now, this is why I think this one's interesting. Okay, like we're not worthy. We're not big enough to discuss 2025.
Starting point is 00:34:29 I want to put this up. I don't know if I sent this in if the guys have this. This is the profile for FinFox. Who's a nobody? Although it has over 50,000 followers. But this is the bio for FinFox. politics finance government compliance bus owner consultant uh farm boy in a big city hashtag resist hashtag fella hashtag Biden harris hashtag support ukraine okay so they got all the bases covered
Starting point is 00:34:56 but my point is for all of fin fox's investment in like i don't have the capability uh to discuss project 2035 he doesn't know i'm talking to the author of project 2025 all he knows is what Mark Ruffalo or anyone else has told him about it when you're getting it from the source, the author, at least in part, right, with President of Heritage of Project 2025. So you have to push back. Otherwise, reality only exists according to Mark Ruffalo. No, absolutely. And that is the problem that Republicans have by and large.
Starting point is 00:35:32 The Democrats and liberals especially, like a budget fights a great example. we know as conservatives or just people that have common sense there isn't an unlimited amount of money in this world or in this country Democrats understand that Republicans and Congress understand that if Republicans in Congress say we don't need to spend money on this we need to cut it and Democrats ask for three trillion dollars for it well the Democrats know that a compromise to the American people is two trillion dollars or one trillion dollars which is still a lot further away from where Republicans want to be there's a little bit of a homefield advantage that liberals have have when it comes to messaging about things like Project 225 specifically, where the top 10 is restore the family as a centerpiece for American life. Well, if you don't go into detail about what that means and do it in an elevator pitch,
Starting point is 00:36:19 it's easy to take that and turn it into, what is it, GOP, war against women. It's easy to turn that into war against women, right? And that's before you even hit the abortion argument, that's just the idea of, oh, you think women should be married. There's a healthy argument about if women should be career. Right. And it doesn't mean I fall on one side or the other. But that is a healthy argument because at the end of the day, if a family doesn't create children,
Starting point is 00:36:41 the human race goes extinct, then the woman's role in that is specific and unique. And so this is an intellectual exploration of that and suggested policies to protect a woman's right to have babies and be the wife of a household. Doesn't say anything about her inability to have a career or have an occupation, but protect her right to have dignity in doing so. that's where this is as society's rejection of those things you can call them traditional values call them conservative values I call them what existed for thousands of years
Starting point is 00:37:15 before we had the opportunity to sit around and think about stuff I love you bringing up the family element of it like I'll be damned if I'm going to sit by because it's been appropriately demonized and allow focusing on the family to be turned into the path to the handmaid's tail I'm not going to sit silent
Starting point is 00:37:33 even if I think it hurts me lose a race. I'm not going to sit silent while you demonize the family into the Handmaid's Tale. All right, let's switch it to gears. Joey, you're a dude. One of the reasons you and I have always gotten along. We have a lot of commonalities and we have some differences. We're both from small towns. You served in the military. I did not. I have legs. You do not. So we have our commonalities and we have our differences. And the reason I bring up the legs is because I think it's going to be apropos to this discussion. I think you're going to be able to help me out.
Starting point is 00:38:08 If you've seen the little bit of debate, which women are blown away by, as we as men, have to debate which urinal we go into when we go into a public restroom. Like, is it an odd number and an even number? Is there an empty spot next to another guy? Or even if you are the only guy, this is a real conscientious guy with a nice heart. What if you go in, you know, to a three. person, a three-huller, right? You're a jerk if you go to the middle urinal, right? Because somebody could come up behind you and now he's stuck and he's got to stand next to you. You go to
Starting point is 00:38:42 one end and you give him a buffer seat, a buffer urinal, right? This is the debates we go through, Joey. It's tough. And it's not a debate. It's an internal dilemma when you walk into a restroom. I mean, I'm flying out the Atlanta airport. Let me tell you, man, there's no worst bathroom in all of America in the airport. There's a lot of things I like about my airport. The bathrooms in one of them. But basically the goal is to be standing shoulder to shoulder with the fewest men as possible. And how do you reach that goal? One thing I like to do is hit the corner. So I can kind of 45 degree myself. So anywhere, even if a guy comes right up next to me, he gets my back, not my side. And I don't know why that is. I mean, you can't really see
Starting point is 00:39:22 over there, but it's just, it's, you know what I think it is? I'm going to get really deep on this. I think it's our human instinct to protect our back when we're most vulnerable. And I can't think of a time where you're physically more vulnerable than when you are using the restroom. And so I think about this because we have what's called stage fright. Like, hey, I can't pee out and put – like, I can't pee on the side of the road because people can see me, you know. Like, I never experienced that until after I lost my legs. And I think that's because now I know I don't have the physical tools to protect myself in a vulnerable state. So nine times out ten, I'm going to hit a stall.
Starting point is 00:39:57 And I kind of need to prop myself up. That's a different thing. Nine times out ten, I'm going to get a natural state. stall with a door on it. Yeah. So that's why I brought up the legs. I figured you're making a different choice now, but you're familiar with the debate before. So you're headed to the stall nine times out of ten. By the way, you know another debate is the carry-on bag? Like, when you have to hit the urinal at the airport, where do I put my bag? Because you know there's pee all over the floor.
Starting point is 00:40:21 So I'm always, I try to get to the end one right next to the wall where I can put it around the corner from the wall without losing my eyesight on it. You know, it's just right there. I can keep an eye on it. But it's away from splashing. area. I don't know what the right call is on where you're supposed to put your bag when you hit the head at an airport. I try to keep, I use a roller bag because I would rather it, like, hold its own weight rather than a backpack. But that's another reason why to go in the stall. Most of the stalls have a backpack hanger in them out there on the door. There's a lot of reasons to go into the stall. But, you know, they get full quick. And sometimes urinal is the only option.
Starting point is 00:40:56 And sometimes a urinal standing between two dudes is the only option. And it's just an uncomfortable moment and it's something we have to get through. But I think I don't think you lean into it. Lean into it. Lean into the uncomfortability. I read on Reddit one time. One of the best things you can do is go to the urinal. Turn and look at the guy next
Starting point is 00:41:14 to you in the eyes and go, I really like your watch. Yeah, that's it, man. Make them so uncomfortable that now you've got the power dynamic and maybe psychologically that helps. I mean, I think there's there's probably some Dr. Jordan Peterson knowledge in here somewhere that I just don't have.
Starting point is 00:41:30 For me, it's about making practical decisions. I don't trust anybody. I sure don't trust anybody in the airport, and I want some security around me if I'm going to be, you know, dropping trail. All right. Last thing here with Joey Jones. So, Mr. Beast, I think he might be the biggest celebrity in my household. I don't know. There was a moment where Speed's another YouTuber.
Starting point is 00:41:55 And yesterday, my son was talking about Sketch. He's like, do you know Sketch? Like, I've heard of him. good um but oh really uh yeah there's there's a lot of controversy out about sketch yeah right now right like recently yeah yeah my son actually my son brought that up yesterday i didn't i saw a meme about this one of the most most the hardest things about being a father is sitting there pretending like you're interested in a boring monotonous monotone recount of video games and youtubeers that i do not care about so i do know there's something going on with sketch but i did too
Starting point is 00:42:29 it out. But Mr. Beast, who is too young to run for president, said that he would like to run for president. And that kind of brought us this debate here on the Will Cane show. Were he able, like, would you want a too young president or an octogenarian president? Like what, like, the situation we're in today. Like, Joe Biden is the extreme example. I mean, Trump is 77 and with age because wisdom, right? Experience and wisdom. But yet there's a big portion of our population going, why does it have to be old people, always old people that run America? But would we really want a 35-year-old? Would we really want a young person, you know, running America?
Starting point is 00:43:12 No. I hope not. I mean, I hope people are smarter now. I'm 38 years old, Will. I hope I learned something between now and 68. If I spend the next 30 years just thinking I'm right, I'm certainly not, I shouldn't be an option for president. that I, here's a deal, President Trump's age has never, ever been a problem for me. Now, maybe that's biased that I'm just not aware of, but I've never seen something out of him
Starting point is 00:43:37 that made me feel like, man, that dude's just too old. He doesn't get it. I mean, the guy conquered Twitter before most 35-year-olds did. And then when he got kicked off of it, he created his own version that's done well itself. So the idea that he doesn't, he isn't a part of the, of the conversation that the young people are having, I don't really accept that. so yeah i would rather be someone i kind of apply the same logic to term limits i understand why people like term limits i love the idea of term limits but having talked to people that are in dc and working on the hill term limits bring on a whole gambit of their own problems i mean the idea
Starting point is 00:44:13 that you're creating cycles of lame duck congressmen to go vote for whatever's going to pay the bills when they get out i mean how do you fix that there's a lot to term limits that are actually a problem I'm not saying I'm against them. I'm saying they're going to thought out planned. And so part of that too is I kind of want someone who remembers the last time we tried to do this and fell miserably at it. Because we have a huge long-term memory problem in this country when it comes to policy. I mean, if I hear people say times are as bad as they've ever been, I'm like, really? Because like we fought a civil war, we fought a world war before we were a superpower.
Starting point is 00:44:48 There was a time in this country to where most people trying to be president were getting shot. I mean, we had RFK, JFK, Reagan got shot. I believe, if I'm not mistaken, was it Johnson got shot at, or Carter. So there was a succession there for more than a decade where they were just trying to assassinate the president or who might be president. We don't really have that. Crazy when you think about that, yeah. So when you think about the turmoil we've gone through as a country, things feel bad right now
Starting point is 00:45:17 because we have these phones in our hand, not necessarily because they are the worst they've ever been. And because these phones in our hand have led to conversations like trans rights that in a lot of ways are ridiculous. But the idea that we don't have people in leadership that remember the hard times before, that scares me as much as anything. The idea that we wouldn't have a Speaker of the House that remembered the last time we went through this budget fight and can remember to maneuver around it. I mean, people think that Congress is this like legacy, like you fall into a seat in Congress and you automatically know all these things. No, There's a lot of members of Congress that are just you and me that got elected and they're figuring it out.
Starting point is 00:45:54 And so you need some wisdom. You need some leadership. So different than age is intent. Like, why do you want to be there? If you're late in your life in your 60s and 70s, you've got all your faculties, you've done very well. And this is your opportunity to give back or to create a change that's affected you in your business life. I think you're a whole lot better prime than a 40-year-old that sees nothing but stars because you haven't been around long enough to see the bad. I mean, not saying that 40 isn't around long enough, but, you know, there's a lot to learn in life.
Starting point is 00:46:23 And the one thing I love about older people, go ahead. Yeah. I know you're rejecting the age requirement. You're setting it aside, but what do you think is the ideal age for a president? Like, I'm going to, I'll give you my answer. I'm guessing it's somewhere between 55 and 65. I think that's probably the ideal age for president. in today's world I think you're absolutely right I think I want someone who's had a chance
Starting point is 00:46:51 to fail and succeed at 38 years old I haven't really failed yet it may be in little ways but I'm going to make a career move that's probably not going to work out for me and I'm going to have to recover for it and I really haven't had a chance
Starting point is 00:47:05 to fully succeed yet I haven't achieved some goal I didn't think was insurmountable I want someone that has that experience I mean I hate to say it I feel like Donald Trump has that experience maybe in some ways Joe Biden does I mean, he failed running for president, then he became president.
Starting point is 00:47:19 They're in their 70s, now 80s. If Joe Biden wasn't literally appearing to suffer from dementia, his age wouldn't matter to me. It doesn't matter to me with Donald Trump. Now, on the other side, Mitch McConnell's age is a problem, and he's getting out because he knows it. So I meet 80-year-olds that are spry, smart, and with it. And I meet 60-year-olds like my dad died at 63. the last five years of his life, it was hard to communicate with him. And so age is a factor, but if I'm going one way or the other, I'm going to go older. That's just too. I trust that
Starting point is 00:47:58 wisdom. Maybe I'm an optimist. Maybe I have too much faith. No, I'm with you. I'd prefer older over younger. I'd prefer the oxygenary and probably over Mr. Beast. I will say I disagree with you on term limits, or you didn't take a position, and we don't need to have the debate. The one point I would make is I think if they were limited to one or two terms, two or three terms, there's less of a likelihood, not more of a likelihood, that they turn it into careerism as in lobbyists because they'd have less influence. Like, there's a new one coming every so often. Why are you valuable to me to work behind the scenes? Before you go, Joey, let's jump, let's go back to the people. Sue Gordon, second appearance, Sue today on the Will Cain Show, I told you. I hope you've
Starting point is 00:48:39 subscribed to the Will Cain Show. It says, I've gone into the men's restroom at concerts. when the line in the women's restroom were so long, I'd pee myself. I'd just go in a stall. Well, I would hope you'd go to a stall, Sue, in the men's restroom. I hope you wouldn't go to a urinal. But if you did go to a urinal, Sue, I would give you a lot of crick. Just lock eyes with the dude next to you and just go to the urinal. Rose. That's seen in Stepbrothers where she hikes her leg up. That's what I'm visualizing. Rose says definitely don't use the middle one.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Andrea Weibel says, does that mean the middle one, the middle urinal, is never used? Pretty much, except when extreme circumstances and everybody's waiting for, like at a ball game, right, when everyone is taken up. That's right. Debra Young says, I didn't know guys have such difficulty. when using the bathroom. Yes, that's the point.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Now you do. You understand the debates. Yeah, it's tough. Tough out here in the patriarchy. All right, Joey Jones. Always great to hang out with you, man. We've got to have you on the Will Cane Show more. You can join it right there from your barn or wherever you are out in the hunt field,
Starting point is 00:49:54 which you're doing a lot. I'm sweating because it's hot in here. I didn't have my AC on before today. But, yeah, I'm in the building. And from here, I go work out. We'll be good to go. All right. You can join from FaceTime if you're in the field anytime.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Joey Jones. Love having you on the Will Cain Show. Thank you, man. Appreciate it, brother. From Georgia, Joey, me from Texas. The debate just came up organically yesterday because of the quality of a commenter's profile photo, which was the Wyoming state flag. Is Wyoming in the top 10 state flags? Well, I made a list of my top 10 state flags. Find out next on the Will Cain Show. Listen to the all-new Brett Bear podcast featuring Common Ground, in-depth talks with lawmakers from opposite sides of the aisle, along with all your Brett Bear favorites like his all-star panel and much more. Available now at Fox News Podcasts.com or wherever you get your podcasts. and the Fox News Facebook page, hit subscribe Apple or Spotify or on YouTube to join the Will Kane show every Monday through Thursday live at 12 o'clock Eastern time at Facebook at Fox News.com or on the Fox News YouTube channel. Yesterday we broke into an impromptu debate about the best-looking flags in America.
Starting point is 00:51:28 So today I thought, well, let's go ahead and lay out the top 10 flags of the states. Let's bring in the Wallitia. Two a day's Dan, tinfoil pat, young establishment, James. Before we go into this, you three have seen my top ten flags. Yes? Yes. Okay. We'll get your commentary as we go.
Starting point is 00:51:54 But before we start, I want to ask, not all of you individually, but at the top line, Do you think my list is far off base? Did I egregiously leave off some state? I think it's pretty spot on personally. A lot of my favorites are in your list, and I'm not just trying to suck up. Be smart if you were. Hold on. Now, tinfoil pat, super into graphic design.
Starting point is 00:52:24 He loves talking about NFL and college football uniforms. So he has a lot of aesthetic opinions. did I leave off any state that offends you tinfoil pat? There are a couple that I think are very good. I'm trying to remember which ones I put in the list, which is why I was like trying to go back and look at that's what I was doing. Yes, I remember, okay, there are two in particular that I'm a little offended that you left out. All right.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Tell me who they are, and I'll tell you if they made my honorable mention. Rhode Island, I think, is a very, very good flag. That's my favorite. He stole mine. I'm sorry. Not in my top ten. Not in your top ten. And also Alaska.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Simplicity. Alaska. Also not in my top ten. Alaska, however, did make my honorable mention. There are a couple of states that I do think are good. They just didn't make my top ten. 10. And Alaska was really close. It might be 11. Alaska, Navy field with the Big Dipper and the North Star right there on their field. In the end, the reason that Alaska didn't make my top 10 is
Starting point is 00:53:43 because I don't think it is inherently identifiable as a state flag. Like, if you showed that image to someone, they could be like, well, that's a picture of the big dipper. That's, you know, not necessarily Alaska. In other words, the symbol is bigger than Alaska. And it's cool looking, but I definitely I leaned into states that I feel like their state flag has almost become part of their identity. Like, it's on bumper stickers or on the back of windshields. It's on shirts.
Starting point is 00:54:14 You know, it's on swim trunks, that kind of thing. Like, it is part of who we are. So, here we go. Here are my top 10 state flags. It's a little music under this. What do you say there, two of days? My top 10 state flags in the United States. United States of America.
Starting point is 00:54:31 At number 10, Alabama. Roll, Todd. Whitefield, red X. This flag's got a little England going, you know. Although they have the cross, this has turned into an X. I wonder if this flag is going to come under the gun at some point because just the geometric shapes is similar to the Confederate flag. Oh, boo-hoo.
Starting point is 00:54:55 I also wonder that with Arkansas, because Arkansas has a essentially stars and bars in a diamond form. And I hope it doesn't. It's like erase anything that echoes the Confederacy. But this is a cool-looking flag for Alabama. It is that Scottish heritage, the St. Andrews Cross. And I think that's people keep confusing it. But like so much of the South is based off of that Scotch-Irish heritage that, you know, you can't really,
Starting point is 00:55:27 I mean, you can't go wrong with it. you know right but you can't try to erase by the way one of the previous guests in the will cane show wrote an awesome book about why the scotch irish made america um the scotch irish definitely made the south they didn't come through ellis island they came through virginia and then populated the south and places like texas pioneers push the frontier at number nine i just think this is a cool looking flag south carolina it is the palmetto tree fantastic state the crescent moon Flag or fantastic state, James? Both.
Starting point is 00:56:02 I think the state's better than the flag, but... It's sharp. It's just good-looking. Now, I will say, do you think it's recognizable across the country? 50 states recognize that South Carolina. I think more so than others. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:56:20 I don't think I could recognize that. If I didn't really know what it was before, I don't know if I could guess what it was. I'm from the South. I don't think you could either. I don't think most people would All right That takes us to number eight
Starting point is 00:56:33 I think most people if shown this image Would know Number eight That's Hawaii Now Hawaii is proud And that's obviously I'm a bit of a homer Outside of Texas I'm going to probably lean to Montana
Starting point is 00:56:45 And Hawaii But I just think that You know Hawaii throws that up on T-shirts Hawaii throws that up on board shorts It's got its history linked in there You know James Cook quote unquote
Starting point is 00:56:57 discovered Hawaii. I know. Discovered what that means. James Cook discovered it for Western civilization. So it's got, you know, the Union Jack in the corner with the various red, white, and blue stripes. I just think it's busy in a good way, and it looks cool. I'm a big fan of Hawaii at 8. I didn't know that one at all, to be honest. And I would have guessed the South Carolina one looks more Hawaii than this one. Just my opinion. So if I had shown that image, you wouldn't know that's Hawaii's flag? think so also i've never been so i i don't know but yeah i just didn't know that one which is
Starting point is 00:57:33 probably sad for the teachers that taught me when i was young here i see you shaking your head tinfoil you think i'm being a homer on hawai yeah i think it's a lazy flag um it's like macedonia ripping off the u.s flag it's pathetic wow it's like they took the british flag and the american flag and combined them right yeah it just replaced the stars with the jean jack and then ran with some, just a few less, a few less stripes. I like it. All right, number seven, this hat lends itself, I mean, this flag lends itself to hats. It's a great sticker.
Starting point is 00:58:13 It's Colorado. Red sea with the yellow sun in the middle, blue, white, blue field of stripes. I think Colorado is super simple, super sharp. I would argue this is the Chicago. Cubs of state flags. Agreed. This is my second favorite one of the entire United States. I love this flag
Starting point is 00:58:35 so much. I don't know why. Colorado's great. I feel like it's too Cuba. Wow. To Cuba. I think it's Cuba. Well, Cuba doesn't have a C in their flag. Well, I'm not talking about their flag.
Starting point is 00:58:50 You see that thing. Oh, that could be Cuba. I think that's a James thing. I don't think that's an everyone thing. Many people are saying. You see the letter C. Many people. You see a lot of people, huh? You see the letter C and you think Cuba. I see that and I think Cubs for some reason. That flag reminds me of the Chicago Cubs. All right. At number seven, it's the flag that launched this debate. It is Wyoming. Sharp. Now, I'm not a big fan of the crest and the seal in flags. Too busy.
Starting point is 00:59:22 But they incorporated it into a simple image of the buffalo. They didn't go with stripes. I like is a blue field but bordered by red and white frame. I don't know, but I just, I love this. This is a, this is, I would even lose, I'd perhaps even lose the seal and just leave the Buffalo in the middle for Wyoming, which comes in right there at number six. I agree. I think without the seal, it's an amazing flag. And isn't it a bison, not buffalo?
Starting point is 00:59:52 Didn't they just get it wrong? Yes. Yeah, okay. I'm just making sure. Yeah, but I think it's one of those things like, Coke at this point, like, it's so wrong but so prevalent that we don't need to correct everybody. Like, honestly, if you correct me on that, you're a D-bag. And I'm not saying you are. But, like, if you're the guy out there and you're like, if you're the guy at the bar and
Starting point is 01:00:15 somebody's like, man, we really killed all the buffalo to try to get rid of the Indians. And some dude goes, technically they were bison and buffalo or in Africa. It's like, all right, bro. I did that. We didn't need you here today at the bar. You did that to somebody? I did that to somebody. That's the guy that. Because I had just like heard the knowledge somewhere because I didn't know myself,
Starting point is 01:00:34 so I felt like I needed to tell other people. That's the guy that's about to get schooled by Will Hunting. So was that seven? Yeah. I think without the seal. Wasn't that seven? Oh, six. Six?
Starting point is 01:00:50 So Alabama, South Carolina, Hawaii, Colorado, Wyoming, and number five is. Without the seal, that's like. California. Well, it's right there on the edge, but your top five includes starting at number five, California. Now, I'm a little bit opposed, a little bit opposed, to saying who you are literally on a flag, right? So this is a problem for me from Montana and Kansas and Oklahoma and others, Iowa. I will say, I love Oklahoma's flag.
Starting point is 01:01:24 It's got the Indian feathers, the shield, and so forth. It's probably in the honorable mention category. And I have a soft spot in my heart for Montana. But if you have to say in text who you are, you haven't said who you are in imagery. But California gets an exception. This, I love that they call it the California Republic, which I didn't know that California is a bold claim.
Starting point is 01:01:51 The bear is sharp. and the, uh, just the red singular stripe at the bottom. I think it's a really good looking flag and lends itself to graphic design and t-shirts and everything else. I agree. Bad state, good, good design. Yep. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Number four, you guys being, that's a winner. East coasters like this one a lot. Um, I think Patrick counts as an east coaster being Florida. Um, But this looks great on a football helmet. It does. You know, I think it does. It just screams...
Starting point is 01:02:29 For whether or not it's the Ravens. Screams lacrosse, too. It does scream lacrosse, 100%. It is Maryland in number four. It's hard to even explain what's going on here. You've got the black and yellow checks in diagonal corners, and then the red and white crosses. In opposite diagonal corners, it's so busy.
Starting point is 01:02:53 It's so out of hand The colors don't match That it's so bad, it's good I once wore a Maryland flag It was a shockingly good look Wow What does that mean you wore a Maryland flag Just like around around the everything
Starting point is 01:03:11 It's the most random thing you've ever said on the show Friday night I'll explain later No it's off air What are the odds this is a good story I'm actually going low It's pretty low It's not that great
Starting point is 01:03:22 It's not right. All right. At number three, New Mexico. I think this is so solid. Yellow field. Red cross, but Indian-style cross with the four-finger lines and a circle in the middle. What's wrong? Two days, I hear you sucking your teeth.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Yeah. I don't know. It's a little too simple for me. I don't know why. I get it. And it's like a very graphic designy flag, but just doesn't do it for me. It reminds you. of that game you played when you were kids and you had to
Starting point is 01:03:54 like, you were the doctor surgeon and you had to like have the tweezers and like pull the thing out without like causing the red button to go off? Operation? Yeah. Because it's the same colors as operations because of that? Yellow and red? That's what it reminds you of. It's quintessentially
Starting point is 01:04:11 it's quintessentially New Mexico. Like the cross I think is Catholic Catholicism, the missionaries, the Spanish missionaries who came to New Mexico. The style, you know, is that very southwest. Western look, simple, identifiable. If I showed you that, would you get the state?
Starting point is 01:04:28 No. Yes. I know that one. You wouldn't get that, James? That's because you're such a Yankee. I appreciate the Southwest. Have you ever been to New Mexico? No, I've not.
Starting point is 01:04:42 I've said this before. Have any of you guys been to Santa Fe? Nope. They say it's a dry heat. I love weather talk. I would say that Santa Fe is the closest to traveling abroad as you can do in America without leaving the country. You will feel like you're in another country, architecturally, food-wise, art, style, and fashion, more there than any other place in America, and you'll still be in America. It's awesome. I love Santa Fe.
Starting point is 01:05:17 I like New Mexico. You've seen Breaking Bad, surely, which is Albuquerque. No? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fantastic. Recently ranked the number one TV show of all time. Wow. Number two, Tennessee. Super sharp. Like California, red field, like California, a singular bar. This time vertical, though, instead of horizontal.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Well, a blue and white bar on one side. And by the way, the blue and white bar on the end of the flag, not the side that attaches to the flagpole, right? which I think is also a little counterintuitive. And then the circle, blue circle with the three white stars in the middle, which I believe represent the three areas, the three regions of Tennessee, middle, eastern, and western Tennessee. I believe I'm correct in that.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Just super sharp flag. This flag doesn't show up on enough hats and t-shirts like California and others. That's a really sharp, like, piece of fashion, that flag. Maybe when they get a baseball team. they're not getting a baseball team they're getting a baseball team I had no idea what this was to be honest I'd never seen the Tennessee flag
Starting point is 01:06:28 I only see the I associate Tennessee with the balls so I just think of that as the state flag basically like an orange and white checkerboard exactly that's that's your vision of Tennessee exactly you know what the Titans should have done something around this flag
Starting point is 01:06:44 instead of what they did you know this should have been the their core uniform Not the, it's like a tertiary logo. Yeah, I don't think it's, I'd have to go back and look. I picture the Titans, the Titans, the Titans are Navy. Like, that's their main color, right? Navy with a few red highlights.
Starting point is 01:07:06 They should have done more leading into it, but they did have elements of the flag in their uniforms. It's great looking. All right, number one, the most identifiable flag, in America. Boring. Literally, literally the nickname of the state is off of the flag,
Starting point is 01:07:28 the lone star state. Just alpha. It's so alpha. It's so strong. Just three bold red, white, and blue fields and one star. Do you get? It is. Texas.
Starting point is 01:07:43 I think it's more Sigma because they're signaling like they, it kind of looks like, hey, we just want to be our own country. one star more than alpha it's sigma do you get uh do you get goosebumps every time you see this do you have goosebumps right now looking at the texas flag is just like in your blood is there like a song playing in your head right yeah yeah george straight oh my wouldn't be that oh i need to come up with this is actually closer to cuba patrick it's actually closer than in colorado Isn't Cuba one of those triangle flags? I think so.
Starting point is 01:08:23 It is. Isn't Cuba that flag just cut into a triangle? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, but it has four, one, two, three, four, five strips, five bars. Bars are blue and white. The lone star state. Texas is number one. There you go.
Starting point is 01:08:42 That's the best, any big, that's the top ten flags in America. I give you now a quick 60 second rebuttal to the Wilicia. What I miss, what did I get wrong, what should have been higher quickly, the three of you, two at A's, young staffsman James, tinfoil. Make your each 22nd case. Go. New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts. That's the funniest thing you've ever said on this show. Good job, James. I'm just going Rhode Island's my favorite. I'm not sure you know why it's funny.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Rhode Island. I think... It's a good one. I dock Rhode Island points for going with that awkward shape, just a square. I actually dock points for that. You need to go with a normal shape. I'm not into triangles or what Ohio did with the notch flag. You got to go, standard three by five. Pat?
Starting point is 01:09:34 I kind of like what Rhode Island did going with the square, but I don't know. I think you nailed it outside of Alaska. I think Alaska is probably up there. I think it's identifiable to me. I just think of Alaska. I think of the Big Dipper for some reason. But do you think of, when you look at the big dipper,
Starting point is 01:09:55 do you think of Alaska as the point? Because of the flag. Yeah. Yeah. I do. But I'm a flag of file. Uniform flag of foil into conspiracies, our own tinfoil pad.
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