Will Cain Country - Why The Right Wins The Internet w/ The 'Ruthless Podcast'

Episode Date: May 19, 2026

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Spencer Pratt, Graham Platner, James Bond, and MSNBC. Let's get after it with Ruthless. This is Wilcane Country. Streaming live at the Wilcane Country YouTube channel, the Wilcane Facebook page, and always here. For you to follow at Spotify or on Apple. Los Angeles mayoral candidate Spencer Pratt just keeps putting out back. Viral ads owning the internet. TMZ last week conducted an interview with Spencer Pratt where they questioned why he was staying at the hotel Bel Air.

This follows weeks of speculation as to why Spencer Pratt might be living in Santa Barbara. Can he run for mayor of Los Angeles if he's living in Beverly Hills, if he's living in Santa Barbara, to which he's tried to explain to the world, my home has burned. down. He facetimed in to TMZ and told Harley Levin, come on Harvey, I love you, but do you understand I'm homeless? Yeah, there are some days I might need to stay at a hotel. There might be some days for my kids need to live in Santa Barbara because what I have on my lot, a lot that I saw when I visited Los Angeles is an airstream trailer. But in the spirit of putting out bangers, Spencer Pratt has a new one, which we'll call the Fresh Prince of Bel Air.

West Los Angeles, palisades in my backyard is where I spent most of my days. Beating hummingbirds. Relaxing all cool. Avoiding all the bones outside of a school. When a couple politicians, the world are no good, start to making trouble in my neighborhood. Another banger from Spencer Pratt, and we're joined now by the host of the Ruthless Variety Program. Michael Duncan, Josh Holmes, John Ashbrook, who have their own, very successful, very popular. interview with Spencer Pratt on the very successful, very popular, ruthless variety program.

What's up, fellas? Hey, how are we doing, Will? Great to see you. I hear, in the spirit of rich white guys, there you were, here hanging out the three of you, fancy D.C., upper class, golf traveling snobes. somewhere in South Carolina at a golf club that I've never heard of, but everyone that should already does, run into one of my buddies. Yeah.

We haven't spoken with yet, but I got the text and I got the picture. And there you are hanging out with my friends, you white golf snobs. Be careful. These are your buddies you're talking about. We just happened to run into them. It was great. It was incredible because it was the day we were supposed to be on your show. It was the day we were supposed to be on your show.

basically at the time, we were supposed to be on your show and we couldn't make it. And then we met your buddy and we were like, oh, we need to send Will this picture. And Will, we decided we would wear all of our merch that we bought there on your show today. Is that what you're wearing? Yeah. Well, good, good. I'm proud of you guys. You snob white golfers always walk around like a billboard for the latest country club that you've got a membership app in at.

Or at least got a quick 18 with a member. Everywhere you go, you got to let everybody know where you played golf. It's written on your shirt. You've got to own it, man. I mean, we're nothing, if not authentic. Yeah. Like a NASCAR for golf courses. You guys did have an interview with Spencer Pratt, as did I a couple of times now,

visited him in L.A. It's an interesting place where Spencer's doing two things at the same time. He's actually cutting some pretty amazing viral internet-based ads, but he's also become the beneficiary of an ecosystem that's doing it for him. There's all these AI ads. They actually, as far as I can tell, has very little to do with. Like this one where he's Batman and he's cleaning up, you know, Los Angeles or there's a French Revolution-style one where Bass and Newsom are sitting around a fancy table while the people suffer. As far as I can tell, these are just fans who are now creating fan fiction around Spencer Pratt.

Totally. And these are the ads, you know, we used to do this for a living. exclusively. And these are the ads that as an ad maker or a consultant you'd want to do, but all the rules of politics prohibit you from actually doing it. Now he's got this entire network of fans across the internet that are using the latest and greatest AI to put together bangor after bangor. It's fantastic. Do you guys think, Duncan, do you think this works? Like, I'm always very sensitive and try to be self-aware to the fact that something we've known for a decade.

X is X. You know, Instagram is Instagram. TikTok is TikTok. Do they bleed over into the real world? Yes. How much? I don't know. And these things are bangers.

They're objectively funny and pretty good. But do you think they matter? Like in the grand scheme of things, do they really matter in what happens? Today's a big day, right? Today's a big day in Georgia. Today's a big day in Kentucky. Do these types of things make a difference in a primary battle

in Los Angeles or Georgia? I mean, I think they do. I don't think going viral and running an effective campaign are like these mutually exclusive things, like you're only on X or you're running a real campaign. I think it can feed the rest of the campaign, the traditional campaign, the grassroots organizing, the field work, the direct mail, your television ads and all of that sort of stuff. Because what you're trying to do is build the hype around the campaign. I mean, this is an underdog fight. And the best place to do that is a platform. like X, but like you don't want to confuse the signal for the noise here because X is its own sort of ecosystem. You still got to run effective traditional online advertising and television advertising. You need to have the infrastructure of a field operation that can go knock doors and find those lower propensity Democratic voters who might vote for Spencer Pratt. So they're not mutually exclusive. I don't think one indicates, you know, victory. But you've got to have at all. Well, think about this. If we wrote this on paper and we wrote it down a few months ago,

Spencer Pratt is by all accounts a person that you would not take seriously in politics. He is a quasi-reality star, cut from the mold of the world of TMZ. And everything on paper on that resume would suggest unsurious, completely unsurious. And then he starts putting out his message. Then he starts putting out his ads. And he starts doing his interviews. My point is, if you took the same resume, Ashbrook, you took it from the left, and you say, okay, what are their unsurious candidates doing? Well, then you would get things like this, which is Shelley Campbell, who I believe is running for Congress in Michigan. Take a look at Shelley Campbell's work compared to Spencer Pratt.

This is what I do, because I am an ethical person. I'm a classy. I'm a classy. Am I bad? Some real star power there. I mean, I don't want to suggest she's not going anywhere. That could lead to that's got a bit of promise. I'm not sure it leads to the halls of Congress, but twerking and proclaiming the power of pee power, where does it take her, Ashbrook?

Well, I mean, there's unconventional, and then there's just plain weird. And I feel like voters respond to things a little bit differently when they're faced with what she's doing on camera versus Spencer Pratt, who's just making some jokes and talking about something he feels very passionately about in a little bit of a different way than a conventional candidate. I mean, I think President Trump really broke the mold on the type of candidate who can win. They can make jokes.

They want to show their personality. It's the opposite of like the old state Chamber of Commerce Republican who's wearing the blue blazer and giving you the lecture on you know, the tax rate or something like that. All those things still can win, but an unconventional candidate has an opportunity today where they might not have had it before. And if you listen to Spencer Pratt, I mean, there's nothing inauthentic about his message. You know, he is just so angry at what happened to him as a regular citizen of Los Angeles. Okay, the citizens of Los Angeles, there are more actors and reality stars and producers and directors and camera guys per capita

than probably any other city on the planet. Ashbrook brings up a good point here, I think, and that is the attention economy is real. And being an unconventional candidate like a Donald Trump or Spencer Pratt is valuable because people have such short attention spans. But the most important thing is, do you have something to say after you have their attention? Yeah. And that's the difference between him and this lady who's twerking. And he clearly does. I mean, you were talking about how, you know, they're giving him a hard time because, oh, you stayed in a hotel. Well, I don't have a house anymore. It burned to the ground. They're like, well, why aren't your kids living in the airstream?

And he's like, because you burn down their school. Like, you know, his message is so powerful. I don't know if it's going to win the day in Los Angeles. Yeah, I mean, he's got to hit a keyhole at 50 yards to even have a chance. I mean, we're talking about one of the most. democratic cities in this entire country, it would have been absurd to even suggest that somebody like Spencer Pratt would have a chance in an election like this unless he's doing what he's doing. And I think that debate actually is where the dividing line for me was about how serious is this thing. Because you can see his ads. You can hear his background. You can see the authenticity throughout. But he also used all of his time to learn everything there was about the city.

of Los Angeles, their failings, how it failed him and his neighbors and his kids. And you could hear that on a debate stage. And it was like, wow, this guy's done a ton of homework too. Yeah. I mean, the thing that's most bizarre to me is the way the Democrats are doubling and tripling down on this fake residency scandal of Spencer Pratt. All they're doing is reinforcing the central premise of his campaign. They burn down my house and I'm angry about it.

Like, why would they do that? They're so stupid. All right, so, only fans. Three of you spoke, two of you spoke twice. There was a lot of words. There's some good nuggets like, in the attention economy, getting the attention is important, but what do you have once you have the attention is a great nugget?

You even buried a golf metaphor in there of hitting a keyhole from 50 yards, but you never got around to saying that Shelley Campbell is headed for only fans, boys. That's the answer to my question, not politics. She's headed to only fans, and she'll kill it. She may even get a follow from James Tolariko. I would suggest you might already have a follow. from Tauro Rico in Texas, but it is only offense. By the way, on that note, I think we'll soon have a politician,

okay, maybe they may have to satisfy Duncan's requirement. You've got my attention. What do you have to say? But it's only a matter of time before we do have a candidate. I'm pausing to think in whether or not we already do. We do have a candidate that completely owns sexuality, like all the way, like quasi-stripper Congresswoman. And I know that there might be a couple that are getting close.

I do know. There are a couple that are getting close. There was a lady in Virginia. And they might be from both sides of the aisle. In fact, those might be more from the right side of the aisle, if we're being honest. But I think there's yet another step we're about to get. I think we're about to go one more step. And yeah, I don't see any reason why we can't have stripper, Congresswoman.

I mean, there was a lady from Virginia that took that to a whole new level last second. I don't even remember if she was running for like a state senate seat or something like that. And she had sex cams. Sex cams. Yeah, like live sex on camera for money. Yeah. And that was, you know, it didn't go over all that well. She did get close.

She almost won. But it didn't seem like it put it over the top, so to speak. Well, politics is a dirty business. Well, really makes you go back and think about what was I offering on Onlyfans. Did I hit the niche the way I needed to? I could have gotten another 50 votes and put this thing over the top. You never know what kind of fetish would have made it happen. Overlay that demographic data and really just dig deep into that situation.

Exactly. Bringing a couple of boys like you guys to do the demographic data, bringing a horn expert, and there's a needle to thread. There's a keyhole at 50 yards that you can hit on that. There's definitely a campaign. Let's take quick break, but continue this conversation with our friends from the Ruthless Variety Program here on Wilcane Country. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. We're still hanging out with Josh Holmes.

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streaming wherever politics isn't boring. Yeah. Yeah, boys. Well done. The man who has, what is it, two hats, two jobs. I can't remember what my ad was. Two shows. One man. All cowboy, two hats. Something like that.

From that man to those men, we applaud you. I saw all of your heads go down the minute I played that. Well, you know, we didn't take a lot of lessons learned from, I mean, we kept our shirts on there, Will, which I think your production staff would disagree with, given the how you've, marketing yourself. T-hole, 50 yards. Yeah. It is what it is, right? Here we are.

That's right. I may have my shirt off every once in a while. Let's take a moment. Public service announcement, PSA, a lot of people have been asking. It's time for me to announce. I will not be doing the Navy SEAL swim this summer in New York. It's my first time in like five years.

And I will not be doing it. I will find alternative ways to share with you my chest, but that will not be the mechanism through which I start my only fans this year. It's going to be a flood of boomer women tears over that announcement. That's the demographic overlay with the only fans needle threading. We know what we're doing over here. Everything's seguing nicely. Because speaking of fetishes and niches, I now give you the candidate for Senate in, in, um, I give you the candidate for Senate in Maine.

Graham Platner, and the revelations of his posts on Reddit and everything he's had to say. Here is the headline from the New York Post, who I see is finally giving us access to some of the best video of the last 24 hours, which I'll be sharing with you shortly here on the Mangonistas, the horrific women outside the trial of Luigi Mangione. You've got to stick around for that sound in that video. But for now, the New York Post shares with this. This headline, Dim Main Senate candidate, Graham Platner gushed over phallic graffiti, boasted porta-potties' sacks in Reddit post.

Now, I would, had I been editor of this, say, Yeah, that's a lot of words. Boys, this is a lot of words, it's vague. I'm like, what sex acts is he doing in a porta-potty? That sounds criminal. It's not criminal. It's just, again, threading that needle, boys, for the demographic overlay.

Here's what he was into. He posted on Reddit when somebody said, Something about aromatherapy for vets. Somebody said, what's the best smells for you to relax, calm or center yourself? To which he responded nine years ago, I still have to do that every time I sit in a porter's shit. That blue water smell conditioned me. Yeah, that's what I think.

Romance is when I go to a porta potty. We're getting, fellas, we're getting close to that Onlyfans candidacy. I mean, I don't know. All we need is a video at this point. And Democrats, I don't know if they like it, they sure don't give a damn. They sure don't give a damn that every time he goes into a porta potty, he feels compelled to masturbate. In this case, Will, I'm awfully glad there is no video. Yeah, that's a gift.

That's a gift. Quite a solo act. Yeah, I don't know. Grant Plattner is like one of those guys. There's a lot they're willing to overlook with, Plattner. Lot they're willing to overlook. That was going to be my point. is that like if he was just an invented entity to just see how what democrats could ultimately gravitate towards

like what kind of a hollow shell of a human you could get them to actually rally around and say that they want to be a senate candidate like i don't know what you'd change i mean this is everything from nazism and tattoos to misogyny and then you know sexual reference now masturbating and porta potty's. I mean, what else? There's not a lot of boxes left to check here. He also said Maine sucks. Oh, yeah.

No, and he hates his voters. That's a tough, you know, it's generally a tough. That might be the toughest. I don't know. I would offer the Nazi tattoo, but you're right. You're trying to get the vote of people you say sucks might not be the best of the campaign strategy. He's got their attention. Here's my theory.

Here's my theory. Okay. I'm just going to take the Nazi. and the main sucks thing, and I'm going to set it aside for a moment. As for the rest, like, I'm going to be a porta potty and all the other things that he is saying on Reddit, I am going to argue to you that for Democrats, it's actually part of the appeal. So what I think they've dreamt and wanted, because this guy, they're not tolerating Platner. They really like Platner. He's got fans. And you say, okay, why?

Well, I had a caller, a friend of the, part of the member of the Willisha, we appreciate his presence and appreciate him calling into the show, who likes that Plattner is a Democrat socialist and wants that to be the vision of the party in the future. So, okay, ideological box one checked. Next, I would argue he's got this broiness to him where his vault, his mistakes feed into it. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Oh, look at him in a bar with his shirt off, getting slammed drunk and posting, posting on Reddit. it, oh, one of us. I don't like everything he's saying, but one of us, you know?

And so I think that they've been starving for some vision of this that isn't a pencil-necked Roe-Kana or isn't even a mean-girl AOC, but a vision of this that might actually be in some small way relatable. Now, I got to bring back in Michigan sucks and the Nazi tattoo because I still can't reconcile that. I can't reconcile screaming about Nazis for 10 years and going, Nazi tattoo. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, no, I look, I think your point is well taken and it is very hard to find a Democrat that's not wearing tight-rolled skinny jeans and horn rim glasses anywhere in politics and I'm sure that his comm staff

is filled with them. But again, it's one thing to just try to portray and I believe he's authentically a dude's dude or whatever. But then to have the crazy shit that he's, got lined out there. I mean, this is the United States Senate that we're talking about. This is not some

like city council race. I mean, this is this is a big job and he's running against one of the most accomplished politicians that Maine has ever had in its history as a state. And it just doesn't feel like there's a gravitas to where he's coming from that will just land anywhere but the bottom of the barrel. I mean, ever since Hillary Clinton defeated Bernie Sanders in that primary in 2016, Democrats have been trying to find their way back in to a white rural working class voter profile in the United States. They've lost that. And yeah, I mean, absolutely right.

Most of their candidates don't fit that profile and can't speak to those voters. And really, nobody has since Bernie, which is why I think a lot of the energy with this new type of platinum candidate is also, by no coincidence, a DSA-aligned sort of energy here. But I just think like at the end of the day, it's really inauthentic because, I mean, Plattener is much more than a humble oisterman from Maine, you know, which I mean, his Reddit comments reveal his, he loathes these people that he pretends he's one of now. So I think, you know, at the end of the day, they're going to have a hard time showcasing how authentic he is when he talks the people he wants to win votes from. But I mean, at least it's a different strategy. But then there's also the fact, and well, you may have seen this, but he launched his Senate campaign website a year before he launched his oyster farmer.com or whatever he started to pretend like he's an oyster farmer. So there's a lot of pretend there that they just, they will not peel back and show.

They're like, oh, he's saying all these crazy things. He's doing these crazy things. He's just like you. But like he's actually just like them. He's like a politician who wants the power and had a website even before anybody even heard his name. Real quick, before we go, I'll let you guys go. So I guess that's the thing you do. If you want to be in every man in Maine, you launch your oysterfarmer.com business before, you know, before you announce your candidacy.

You put the paperwork in, but you don't announce your candidacy until you get the oyster farming image up. So like, obviously, I'm from Texas, but I can't pretend to be a rancher. In each state, what is the job that you're like, yep, that's what I was. I'm one of you. A rancher requires sections, not acres, sections. I don't even know if you boys know what a section is. A section is 640 acres. But that's how they used to count it back in the real ranching days.

They don't say how many acres do you have. They say how many sections do you have? And I can't just file some paperwork and pretend to have a couple sections. So I don't know what I need to pretend to be. but what are you guys? Like, Duncan, where you're from, Duncan? Like, what, Cartgirl? Like, how do you connect with people?

What, what it had to have. Shots fired. Where I'm from, I'm pretending I'm enjoying this, Will. Well, you certainly don't, if you don't want to be a politician, you don't go to George Washington University, which is where Graham Platner went. Like there's never been any more stereotypical, I want to be a politician school than going to there. You know, you went to Indiana University.

Yeah. It could be, you know, you could have Hoosier. No one's really quite sure what a Hoosier is, though. No. No. I mean, it's like corn farming, you know, stuff like that. Or I swear to God, I was working the pit crew at Indy for years. Yeah, yeah.

I swear. A lot of people say they were real close. Real close. Pitcru.com. Just go to my website. Do they? Oh, yeah. And Holmes, you worked in some kind of factory in Ohio, something.

No, I'm a Minnesota guy. It's the fishing. You got to be out there. Oh, you're Minnesota. Who's Ohio? Yeah, that's me. And that's just serving sloppy chili for best I can tell. Yeah.

Which I love. I actually do. It would be my last meal on. Do you love that skyline stuff? It is so good, and these guys just don't know what they're missing. Have you ever had it, Will? Spaghetti. Meat sauce.

Yeah. one time I wasn't impressed, and then a ton of cheese, right? I mean, calling it meat sauce. A ton of cheese. Calling it meat sauce is offensive. It's hamburger water with tomato in it. It's not good. It's not chilly.

I was trying to avoid saying the word chilly. Fair. Hamburger water is about as gross a way to say it as you can come up with. All right. If the ad did not compel you to tune in, Let this 25 minutes, which is five minutes over the allotted time I was given to hang out with Ruthless. Compel you to head over to Spotify, Apple or Fox News podcast and check in on the Ruthless Variety program. Thank you, fellas.

Thank you, Willie. Thanks, buddy. Let's take quick break, but continue this. Awesome conversation on Will Kane Country. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. All right, Josh Holmes, Michael Duncan and John Ashbrook. How about that? Tinfoil Pat, Two-A-D-D-M.

I got a text from a buddy. Good friend. Good friend. And in the text is a picture of him with those three dudes, no smug. Duncan, Asbrook, and Holmes at a, I don't know, at the 19th hole somewhere, you know, having their post round drinks or food. And I was like, how did this crossover happen? It was in South Carolina. Like, this is not what I expected on a Saturday.

Me? Yeah, these guys are like, you know, top the line, shaking hands of politicians, you know, D.C. elites. But then the personal will came to world. We're just a bunch of country boys who made good. We're just a bunch of country boys, some of whom made good, Patrick. That's all it is. So you're like, we're like the white Jeffersons. Moving on up to the top.

We finally got a piece of the pie. Ha, ha, ha. That's all we are, Patrick. Sign up for American Idol next. You're the next one. Okay. Now that it's just me and the boys, there's a couple of things I wanted to share with you that are my absolute favorites. And we can start light or we can start heavy.

Patrick, what's up with the peace sign? What do you need, tinfoil? So, you know, we're talking about Skyline Chili here just now. And so I looked up some crazy regional food. foods in America, just in case we want to go into that later. But some really weird stuff. All right, go ahead. Instead of making it a deep tease, show us up what you've learned.

Well, you have Skyline Chili's number one, which is really weird. And then you have the garbage plate, which is a Rochester, New York thing, heap of home fries, mac macaroni salad, baked beans or fries, top of burgers, hot dogs, and sausage, hot meat sauce, mustard onions, and probably a nap, they say. That sounds pretty disgusting. Yesterday, I went to a sandwich shop, and the guy in front of me had ordered something. And I was like, to the lady, what is that? And she had a big accent.

And I don't really know how to describe her accent, but the accent, I don't know how to describe the accent. She had maybe Ibonics accent. It was very strong. And she said to me, that's the borneo. And I'm like, the what? The borneo. And I'm like, I don't know. And I made it repeat like five times.

I'm like, the bornyork? Born york. I'm like, okay. Well, I won't know how to order it next time I come, but I'm going to try this. Here's what it was. Ham, turkey, salami, roast beef, bacon, meatball, broken up into what looked like ground meat, but it was meatball, and then a little bit of red sauce. I can feel my blood pressure.

As it turns out, when I got to the register, when I got to the register, and he asked me what sandwich I got, I go, I don't know. I don't know. Bonio. And so he had to walk back down to the assembly line and found out it was entitled The Barnyard. She was saying Barnyard, and it's on the underground menu at Potbelly. And that thing you just named this garbage pail. It just reminds me what I got yesterday. Yeah, everything.

Was it good, though? All the meats on this sandwich. It was too much. Yeah. I'm guilty of too much. Are you guys ever guilty of too much? You know where I first learned about too much? I'm going to be honest with you.

And it took some time in life. I learned about too much at Stone Cold Creamery. Do you remember Stone Cold? You'd go and you'd get your base ice cream. And then they had all the different things you could put in and they'd flip it and smash it and crunch it and put it all in. And as you're doing it, everything individually sounds good. And you're like, yeah, throw a little peanut butter cups in there.

Keep going. Keep going. Why not? Gummy bears. whatever, and you keep selecting. And by the time you get to the end, it's actually pretty bad. Like, you don't want all that stuff. And a plain vanilla ice cream is really good by comparison.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. And so I'm guilty every once in a while of, like, being that kid who wanted the suicide at the fountain drink thing. I want all of it, you know, taking them all and putting them in your cup, making a suicide. Did y'all do that? Yep. And you called it that.

Yeah. you had to learn that's not as good it's just a Dr. Pepper. And so I think that's what I would say about the Bonior. Dr. Pepper is literally a suicide. It has 23 different ingredients. Dr. Pepper's gross.

Dr. Pepper is God's actor. It's delicious. What's? I didn't say it was bad. What's something in... I got you. I retracted quick, Patrick. What's something in Texas that's like one of these meals, like the like these smorgas.

Borg of ingredients. Do you guys have something like that? On the list, they have Frito Pie. Is that Texas? Oh, Freeo Pie is great. That's a cowboy thing, I feel like. Do you know what a Frito pie is? It is actually a lot like Skyline Chili, but it's not pasta as your base. It's Frito's as your base.

In the bag, right? And then it's chili. Not necessarily. Chili, it doesn't have to be in the bag, but it could. But then chili, which I would argue is real chili. versus that like bland red sauce would you guys use beans and cheese

I mean the the thing that I'm supposed to say is no right I'm supposed to say there are no beans in chili but I'm not opposed to a bean what do you mean I'm personally not opposed if that makes me less Texan it makes me

less Texan there's no beans and chili what are you talking about no what are you talking about no it's just meat it's meat it's not It's not This that's the My life is a lie I'm supposed to say

It's not It's not defiled by beans But I've had a lot of bean-based chilies And they're and they're They're good too Hmm Interesting They're good too

That's how I feel Personally All right Patrick, Rattle off a couple quick more Two Oh yeah Scrapple It's a Pennsylvania thing

Um Pork scraps Cornmeal Buckwheat spices And they form it into like a loaf And fry it Um I've heard of Scrapple

That's a common one. Yeah, I've heard that one before. And then you have, well, chop suey sandwiches, which is a Massachusetts thing, which is bean sprouts, chicken or meat, thick brown gravy-ish sauce, all shoved into a hamburger bun. You do any of that, Dan? No. From Connecticut. We're sloppy Joe's. That's about it. It's the closest thing.

Yeah. And then, yeah, a lot of these just seem made up. We just have lobster rolls and... Spammer mush. Spam Musubi. Oh, yeah, that's a Hawaii. Spam Missubi in Hawaii. Yeah.

I like it. I actually like it. And then you have liver mush in North Carolina, pork liver, head parts, cornmeal, and spices fried. So those are fun little regional delicacies. Tell us what your regional delicacy is in the chat. Yeah, let us know. There you go. Engagement.

Engagement. farming. They're about to put an end to that on X, Patrick. Engagement farming. No more in the algorithm. That's what I read. I'm screwed. On X. All right. Let's keep the fun going then. Let's go ahead

and roll this from Katie Turr, former girlfriend of Keith Oberman. I believe I'm not sure my competitor at 4 p.m. Eastern time on MSNBC. No, I'm wrong

that? Okay. I don't know what time she's on. Katie Turr talking about Speaker Mike Johnson and his interpretation is understanding from where rights derive. Is it a declaration? What about this passage from Mike Johnson declaring that our rights do not derive from government? They come from you, our creator, and heavenly father. Is this him putting God over the Declaration of Independence? And I wanted to see if he began

his answer, which was unsatisfying, which was McKay Coppins. I don't know where he works now. But he said, no, no, that's, it's a pretty commonly held belief, he explains to Katie Turr. Now, I'm just fascinated by this sound for a minute. She, with so much ignorance and yet so much confidence, which are often paired together, asks whether or not Mike Johnson suggesting our rights are derived from God and not from the Declaration of Independence. And whether or not he's placing God above the Declaration of Pendance is in some way her insinuation an example of like Christian nationalism over the belief in our democracy. And yet she knows nothing, nothing of our democracy, which is not a democracy, which is

a constitutional republic. It's literally written into the Declaration of Independence that these rights that we enjoy are granted by God. The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States, the formation of the American government was only to consecrate something that was already present, something philosophically acknowledged as present by the condition of humanity as granted from God. The idea is, you know, Katie could have benefited from, Any philosophy 101 class or government 101 class or civics or constitutional study instead of journalism degree, one of the stupidest degrees ever invented, and I stand by that having been a recipient of one. What is the point in teaching someone to write something or ask a question if they have no foundation from which to write or ask a question?

Learn how to think. learn about something and then figure out how to be a curious person and ask a good question have something to write about before you write the idea is that our very nature is sacred that we were born is enough to confer upon us rights that you have these rights you are here why do you have these rights because god conferred them upon you you needed no conference of men to acknowledge your humanity, to acknowledge your essential rights. You needed no elders, no protectors, no bureaucracy. You needed nothing to make you fully human, to have rights. Of course, this would be in some other flowery, nonsensical word,

something that would be uttered by Katie Turb. She doesn't understand what it means in the real world, in the application. So when the founders of this country created a declaration of independence, it was an acknowledgement of that that we didn't need a king to grant us rights. We had rights with or without the king. And that the form of government that we were creating here was to protect those rights. Acknowledge and protect those rights. And if all of that is too heady and complicated, which I imagine it might be for Katie Turr, because I do think what we're talking about here is complete utter stupidity,

not a revolutionary rejection of the idea that our rights come from God, but rather a stupid I once dated Keith Obermann type of ignorance. That's what I think we're dealing with. And so what I would say is if this is all too complicated for the two marbles bouncing around your brain that got you a show on MSNBC, understand it more simply.

Understand that it's written in the Declaration of Independence. The thing you seem to be exulting says our rants, our rights, granted from God. Read the thing. Was he placing God above the Declaration of Hittance? Read the Declaration of Independence.

It tells you the answer to that question. God has referenced five times in the Declaration of Independence. And one of those times, acknowledging from where our rights derive. I think it's fascinating how little one actually needs to know to get a national television show. And I know there's people that think that about me. I saw yesterday. Somebody said I knew nothing about religion as I talked about shooting at a Islamic Center in San Diego.

They gave no further flesh on those bones. I'd like to know where my ignorance was so obvious. But this is basics. Basics. If you're actually going to have those... If she wants to have a show talking about crime, maybe she should. She should just talk about like, you know,

did the husband murder the wife? Because if you're going to talk about politics and you're going to talk about big ideas and you're going to talk about America, you need to understand some basics about America. You don't just read a teleprompter. cat. Let's stop down but continue right after the break

here on Wilcane Country. And that worked me up. That worked you up. Wait till I share with you the ladies outside the trial of Luigi Mangione. Yesterday I showed you the pictures. Today I have the sound. Dan, how long is this clip? I asked originally for the full 90 seconds.

We have it cut into two clips. So we can play a bit, come back and play another bit. Here's what I want to say before you... I think it's tenically 60 seconds we have. And struggle through this. I think it's important for you to hear this. I'll explain why. But I really think it's important for you to hear these women

who have been granted press passes by Zora Mamdani outside the trial of Luigi Mangione. Here you go. I say what I said. His children are better off without him. What was that? What was that? I didn't get that what he said.

I'm standing on business for Brian Thompson. I don't give a flying because of how negligent her health insurance was. She died. All right. Here in the beginning, here's what we hear. F. Brian Thompson, the former CEO of United Health Care murdered by Luigi and Mangiani, allegedly. I have to say allegedly until he found guilty. F. Brian Thompson.

I think she says F. His family? They're better off without him. And then the other lady says, they're better off without him. The other lady says that about his kids. Try not to be like your dad, the second woman says. Enjoy the blood money, kids. Try to learn to be better than your dad. Crazy.

Then there is a long explanation back to woman number one about an infant that died due to poor health insurance. And then they begin, which I think might be in the second clip here, to explain their rationale through the lens of social murder. social murder, accusing Brian Thompson of social murder. So here's a long to say for a moment. You're tempted. You're tempted. One of these women is wearing like green and black, orange and black, purple and black stripes.

Kind of going with a goth girl type look. I think there's some painted hair in there. Another girl's going for like a not 40s, not 20s flapper, but 40s post-war, you know, crop pants, sleeveless button down top, short hair. And then a third girl is a blonde with tats. Not bad. And you're tempted to kind of analogize them to the three women at the Charles Manson trial who were in a cult and idolize Charles Manson and begin to think of them in that light. But I wouldn't, I wouldn't if I were you.

I wouldn't so easily dismiss them as the people that write letters to serial killers. What I think you're hearing is something deeper and worse and more, more of it. that I think there's people like this that walk amongst you. That's what I'm saying. I think they're at the grocery store. I know them. They're not going to always be dressed like a 40s woman, but they're there.

Judging from these women, I don't think they're at your exercise class. They're not fat, but they're not tone. I think that, you know, they're at the coffee shop. You know, they're at the stone cold creamery. or Van Lewin. They're everywhere, and they think like this. So what I'm explaining is this is common. And it's also murderous.

Nothing short of bloodthirsty, murderous talk. Pure psychopathy. This sociopathy is everywhere in America. Listen to how they rational. their murderous thoughts. An infant died. So if you guys are okay with someone like Brian Thompson being around and that being a part of our society, that says more about you as a person because you look absolutely monstrous, defending someone like that.

Participates in social murder. That's what we're going to have mass. Mass social murder. He's responsible for more deaths than Osama bin Laden. And I remember, oh, it cuts off there. He's responsible for more deaths, she says. A lot of hand talking by. Hands are moving really around a lot. I can do it. He's responsible for more deaths than Osama bin Laden. And I remember Americans celebrating the death of Osama bin Laden.

So Americans are familiar with the concept of heroic violence. And they celebrated the death of Osama bin Laden heroic violence. And so here, I don't see the difference here. This is social murder and this is heroic violence with Brian Thompson. Nailed it. Did I do a good job? Nailed it. I think I did. Yeah.

That was one of your better impressions you've ever done. Yeah. I'm kind of proud. I don't want to see the video clip. We're posting. It's already clipped. It's going on to social media there. Stay off X.

Oh, Ellie's back there just... Yeah. Cut it, cut it, quick, quick. Get it up there. Cut. And your singing clip, too. Post. Moving on up.

Um... The, this is, this is dangerous stuff, man. I'm serious. Like, I feel like everything we talk about something, it becomes a talking point. So you say things like assassination culture or you say whatever. Dude, just listen to these women. And it is women, not exclusively, but in no small part, it is women. George Orwell knew that all too well.

Patrick sent us this quote, which I think is apropos. George O'L wrote, it always, it was. was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were most bigoted adherence to the party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies, and the nosers out of unorthodoxy, George Orwell, 1984. Dang. I see it a lot. The statute, women have moved radically far left.

Despite the talking point that young men have become further right, it's not true. Statistically, women have moved really, really far left. And the illustration here is they've moved so far left that they are now murderous, Dan. Yeah, I mean, the people I've run in circles with the women that post about these things like Palestine and genocide, and they want to help everybody and everyone to live happy lives and be in peace say these same exact things that murder is okay. I see it all the time with Luigi stuff and with Trump and things like that. It's just so contradictory to everything they stand for and want to be. it goes completely against it.

It's fascinating. Somehow it's not contradictory. A human being, I do not think, can live rationally and insanity with that level of contradiction. Okay? I don't think you can be that misaligned. I really don't. That is a tension inside of a human being that is not sustainable. That level of contradiction is not sustainable.

What I think, what you're looking at is something else. So it is not hypocrisy, not contradiction. It is the belief truly in the end of no principle, no cause, no idea, no virtue. It is the elevation of self. It is narcissism. My thoughts are so whole, my thoughts are so pure. My thoughts might be defined by those of the herd, but they are my thoughts and therefore they are sacred. and that sacred nature must be defended to the death

because anything that opposes the sacred nature of my thoughts is pure evil and should be killed. And eye for an eye. My thoughts might change tomorrow. My thoughts might change tomorrow. I'm still the inner monologue of these women. My thoughts might change tomorrow and they may be totally contradictory to my thoughts today, the ones of which I'll kill you for.

If you oppose the thoughts I hold today, I will kill you. But tomorrow I may say the same thing as you because they are my thoughts. And my thoughts are the most important thoughts. And the only mistake I've made in this inner monologue is I've used the word thoughts repetitively, and I should have used the word feelings. Feelings first. It's simple narcissism. It's the possession of these feelings.

That's it. The possession of these feelings. All right, boys. Before we get out here today, let's lighten it up with this. There's a search for the new James Bond. From Amazon, MGM Studios, The Search for the next James Bond is underway while we don't plan to comment on in specific details during the casting process. We're excited to share more news with 007 fans as soon as the time is right. Patrick, I will know them.

I think I will not know them. But who are the candidates to play the next James Bond? I know them. I don't know them either. Dan knows them, which is why we're going to let Dan run it. So. All right, Dan, who are they? There's a list.

So this is on the left. You have Aaron Taylor Johnson, who just played Craven in a Marvel movie, I believe, or a DC movie. Oh, I watched Craven. Yeah. Terrible. Terrible movie. But he's got the leading man look for it. He's the guy on the left there.

Then you have Jacob Aller. With the long hair. Yep. Then you have Jacob Allorty in the middle, who everyone seems to know but doesn't know why they know him kind of thing, unless you're an 18 to 24-year-old girl, I'm assuming. He's been seen, but out of popularity, I think, is the main one, which is not how they usually choose James Bond's, as we talked about earlier. And then on the right, you have Callum Turner, who is a fantastic actor. He's been in a ton. He's not one of these kind of like euphoria type actors.

He's a real, like, actor's actor kind of guy. But very drama and not kind of action like James Bond has been. So those are the top three. Okay. Those are the top three. Or Henry Cavill, too, is a fourth. Guy played Superman, who I think would be great. They're all white men. I know you're offended, but yeah.

There was a lot of speculation that it might be someone of another race earlier on, but now it's kind of come down to these, this group of men. Black Snape is busy, so you can't get him. Well, Idra's elbow was up there in contention for it. But he's older. I mean, it wouldn't make sense. James Bond is white. That's the way he's written.

That's who he is. And he's a fictional character who you could make whatever you want to be. So he is not beholden to the trappings of nonfiction. But I do offer he is beholden to his time. So if you were to write a James Bond from the 1930s, 40s, 50s, 60s, he would almost necessarily be white. Why? You ask me? What were most spies? What were most British spies? In reality, in that time, and they were white men. I don't know that that would be the way it is today. And if you were writing a contemporary James Bond, I would say I could buy Idris Elba. Idriselba has some essential traits to me of what it is to be James Bond. Okay, what is James Bond? Okay, what is James Bond? And I told you guys this. I grew up watching James Bond. So my childhood pop culture memory is 80s and 90s, right?

It's latter half of 80s, although I got some, you know, in the mid 80s, I would call it. By the way, my son and I drove back from Houston in a soccer tournament this weekend. And, you know, I was a little worried that, you know, I had the ox for a while doing country music. And then I did some, I've got a rock and roll playlist that I did. enjoy, which pulls stuff from the 70s. Yacht Rock? Up through, I'd say the 2000s. It's not Yacht Rock.

It's like, it's just good. To me, it's just good rock. Like, it's going to pull in, like, you're going to get, on my, my rock and roll playlist, you're going to get Billy Idol. You're going to get stuff from the 70s, like, real rock. Like, is Credence on there, the Stones? Probably you'll run into some of that. But you'll also get some, like, Sound Garden or even some.

matchbox 20, some wallflowers. You just get good rock and roll songs throughout those decades. And so I had the oxen. And he had the oxen. When he has the ox, it's a little bit like, okay, we're going to listen to Boogie with the hoodie and Kanye. Still rock with Kanye, huh? Then we decided on, man. Just the one song.

One of the things my boys have been the most about, right about in their life with me is Kanye. He's the best. period. I don't care what kind of rap aficionados tell me about these other guys. And Eminem is an incredible rapper, and he's in the top three of us. But Kanye is the best. I'm not talking to only do the whole thing like your rap, whatever. I'm just talking about the songs that he put, whatever.

Whatever. I like his rhyming patterns. I mean, he actually has interesting things to say, too. Sometimes it's not just look at me, look at me. Outside of sense. Kanye is the best. I don't even feel the need for the caveat The level of genius

The Cognos exhibits in music Needs no caveat It doesn't You don't need to talk about Van Gogh's ear Every talking to you talk about a painting I don't need to hear about it Every time and you know he cut his ear off No I don't need to know that

Every time I look At Starry Night A little different with Gandhi though So Whatever So We decided to do this thing Where I said

Hey man Why don't you AI the number one song every year from 1985 to 2025. Let's listen and we'll decide

which ones were the best, by the way. And this kind of fits in, Patrick, with that thing we were talking about is when things went downhill because you can really feel it, I feel like, in music. And we couldn't afford to listen to the whole song on every year.

But like, number, and I don't know where ChatGPT got this list. Wait, did you run out of time? Whatever. You said you couldn't afford it? Yeah, yeah, you ran out time.

So we could only listen to like two minutes of the song instead of full four. I was like, what are you buying these things? Okay. No, no, time. Preview version. Couldn't afford the time. So, um, it's like, I'm assuming what Chad GPD was given us is what spent the most time at number one every year.

I don't, I'm calling nonsense on the list a little bit. Because, like, Madonna never once was there. And I said to my son, like, you're telling me Madonna never had the number one song for a complete entire year? And he looked at it. And he's like, well, this one says she got number two. She's not number two. She got beat out by this song. So, like, for example, Macarena was in there, whatever year it was.

We'll call it 94. That was 90s. Macarena was in there. So here's, just real quick. The first song, 85, was Careless Whisper, George Michael. Good. And he agreed. Good. Like, among the songs, and there were a lot of sappy love songs. A lot of sappy love songs dominate this list up through about late 90s. A couple decades of longnoughts. You know what he thought was a jam? You guys might be too young for this. Look away by Chicago.

It was in 1989. No, I don't really know that one. Do you know it? No. I'm not smarter. And if you see me walking by and the tears. are in my eyes. Look away, baby, look away. No?

No, I've never heard that. Don't look at me. I don't want you to see me. It's a jam. Someone's feeling bad. I would say, I know. Yeah, I am feeling better.

I'm feeling better. So, big turnaround from last week. You know what the first rap song was? Guess the first rap song to make it's number one. for the year. Eminem. Nope.

Nope. In between the two. Chronologically, in between the two. Dre or... Tubac. No. Biggie. No.

Dre's a good yes. Snooper Dre. It was Kulio. Gangsters Paradise. Oh, interesting. That makes sense. No, that was really big. Yeah.

You've got to think... If you're spoof by weird owl, it's really big. Like, and that's, Patrick, I started to think about this. As you moved along, If you had the number one song for an entire year, you broke through a different level of pop culture. And like, yeah, it's true. Coolio's song, that was a, and by way, I can't name another Coolio, but he hit a different level, right?

Here's another one. And I think he's similar to, to, Clio, Floraida. Like, now you're like in 2000, whatever, 13, 14. More pop music, but, but, uh, low, low, like, and, and, for, for you. Floorida's on Fox and Friends. Like Florida hit another level. You see what I'm saying? Even from being great, we're talking about just,

it's not about greatness. It's about hitting another level of pop culture. It's quicker now. Because of social media. You go down faster. Something new comes up, something, you know, nothing stays for a longer period of time like it used to.

Well, that's true. I don't think you're going to get that. I can only think of one more rap. I can only think of one more rap. rapper in there. Early 2000s. Louane? And if I say it, you'll be like, yeah, this song, this particular song hit a different level.

I mean, it's either Nelly or a... I would argue this rapper. You said one of it. You said it. Yes. Nelly? No. No.

It's in the club. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, he had a huge moment. If you think about that, yeah, 50 cent got gigantic. Right? If Chelsea Handler wants to be with you, you're not just your regular rapper anymore. You've hit a different level of American pop culture.

I beg to differ. Well, I'm not saying she's some great accomplishment. No, I just don't think she's that selective. Well, that either. That either. But I don't know. I don't know when it went down, Patrick, but it went down. Like if you go from

You know Whitney Houston was in there With I will always love you Heck yeah And look here's the deal That is some quality music Like she is quality And then you just kind of get

Like you said Dan You get to these like And I'm not saying There's not good stuff But You start getting into party anthems That's what you start getting into Like what will everybody

For a good time Nobody wants to hear I will always love you in the club. No one wants to hear it in the club. So now it's like, what will everybody go? Yes. Yes. You know? Play that. Was LMFAO in there? There's still quality like a. No. No. No. James Sham. But I'll tell you like on a quality wise, um, Adele was in there. Adel's legit. She got she's a she's a, she's, she's,

I don't know, I was hesitant to say Whitney Houston level, but she's legit. in that range. Anyway, it was a fascinating exercise. So back to growing up as a kid. Sean Connery, Roger Moore, James Bond mattered. I think when I really started watching, Timothy Dalton was already the James Bond, and then it was Pierce Brosnan. But we knew of Roger Moore, and we knew of Sean Connery.

And you'd go back and watch Octopusy or Goldfinger, and those mattered, and they were important. And then when Pierce Brosnan came along again, that took it to a and, new level and peers rosin was the quintessential james bond i know for old heads out there you're gonna be like no it was sean connery i get it but you know if you drew sean connery's a a great actor that's what he was playing james bond and he gave it he gave it charm he's the most like in-depth colorful james bond but if i drew for you a picture of james bond but if i drew for you a picture of james Bond, right? And I described him on paper, he would be Pierce Brosnan. You know what I mean? He was quintessential in that way. More action do when they started. And when they, as they go, like,

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Daniel Craig, but like, that's not who I picture is James Bond. He killed it. He's blonde. But he's fantastic. Killed it in a good way or bad way? Good way. All those movies are fantastic. Daniel Craig added so much to the name and the franchise it's unbelievable. Who was it before Daniel Craig? Was it Pierce Broston? Daniel Craig's been doing it for a very long time. Casino Royale was like early aughts.

Maybe even earlier. Oh, wow. Yeah, he's been doing a long time. Yeah. He's been the longest. They made a mistake. They should have cut it off more. What they could do is change.

007 is not a person. 007's a title. They could change from James Bond to a different 007 if they wanted to. That's a route they could go to move forward. what I think they should do. Hmm. Because 007 is just a title within MI5 or MI6, whatever. It's like being number 88 for the Dallas Cowboys.

Exactly. Yeah. You just put someone in. Then they could be anybody. See, I think that it's going to be really hard. Henry Cobbles is the only answer, by the way. I still think it's really hard after you start getting lampooned by something to then be able to continue to follow up at the high level.

And so you disagree with me here But that's what happened With like blazing saddles and the Western The Western was massive You mean Austin Powers you're talking about Well Mel Brooks came and And then the Western just faded off And that's what Austin Powers did to the Bostoners

You think Mel Brooks killed the Western? And you think Austin Powers killed James Bond It took a long time for the Western to come back I don't think so It was not nearly as prevalent as it was I don't think Hollywood is so cheap so lacking in creativity nothing of more value than franchises

that James Bond would be an incredible brand to own, an incredible piece of IP to own, and it will go through its lows, and it will go through its highs, and over time, it will continue to come back and pay dividends. It is important who you pick to play the James Bond. Very important. Has to be a big name now.

And for the record, I don't like any of these guys that you have on here. Well, that's not fair. I don't like Jacob Lordy Is he American? No, he's British. No. The Craven dude, I have to picture him

with his head shaved or, you know, short hair because James Bond can't be having that Jerry curl. But he's huge, though. Like, he is just a jacked human being, which I don't feel like fits James Bond. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, I agree. And the guy that you like, the Calum dude, I could definitely see that dude is James Bond, but he's kind of blonde. He's more of an actor, though. He's like the Sean Connery type. Yeah. Yeah, I can see that, dude.

He looks like he could be James Bond. Yeah. He looks like he be Daniel Craig's son, actually. It's true. Which, dun, dun, done, maybe. James Bond the second. We'll find out. I don't think you can kill the franchise,

but it can go through its eyes and go through its lows. Probably the way you feel about the last hour. Thanks for hanging out with us today here on Will Kane Country. on Spotify or Apple, and we'll see you again next time. Listen to ad-free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcasts. And Amazon Prime members, you can listen to this show, ad-free on the Amazon Music app.