Will Cain Country - Will Cain Defends Pete Hegseth! Featuring Guy Benson & Congressman Eli Crane

Episode Date: January 14, 2025

Story #1: Will and the Host of The Guy Benson Show, Guy Benson, react live to the confirmation hearing of Secretary of Defense nominee Pete Hegseth as protestors interrupt the hearing and Democrat Senators throw jabs at Hegseth.  Story #2: Inside the Navy SEAL March on Washington in support of Pete Hegseth with former Navy SEAL, Congressman Eli Crane (R-AZ). Story #3: The Crew discusses the future of The Will Cain Show. Plus, Will has one name, and an unconventional one at that, to be the next Head Coach of The Dallas Cowboys. Later, Will responds to the outrageous attacks on Pete Hegseth by Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA). Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, live Pete Hegseth faces the United States Senate Armed Services Committee, cross-examined, and makes his case why he makes the perfect next Secretary of Defense. We react. To Guy Benson and Congressman Eli Crane on the process of confirming Pete. head set and more three a day of change a time of change not just for america but for us here together on the will cane show it is the will cane show it is the will cane show streaming live at fox news dot com on the fox news youtube channel and the fox news facebook page always on demand by subscribing on apple or spotify if you're listening to us on any of

the two dozen radio stations across the great United States of America, and you'd like to fit this into your daily schedule. Just head over to one of those platforms and hit subscribe at Apple or Spotify. But every Monday through Thursday, we hope you will join us here. Now and into the future at 12 o'clock Eastern Time at Fox News.com and on the Fox News YouTube and Facebook channels. As we speak, my friend, my former co-host, your friend, your trusted voice at the Fox News channel is facing the United States Armed Services Committee. He is facing direct cross-examination from Democratic senators and Republican senators. Pete Hegg-Seth has made his opening statement as to why he is a perfect fit for the next Secretary of Defense for the United States of America.

Let's take a minute and listen live to the interaction on Capitol Hill. That incorporate the Geneva Convention and the laws of armed combat, are you saying that those laws should be repealed. That is the law of the land right now. Senator, we have laws on the books from the Geneva Conventions into the Uniform Code of Military Justice. And then underneath that, you have layers in which standard or temporary rules of engagements are put into place. We fight enemies also, Senator, as our generation understands, that play by no rules. They use civilians as human shields. So are you saying that and children. We don't do that. We follow rules. We follow rules, but we don't need burdensome rules

of engaged that make it impossible for us to win these wars. You're saying two different things. You're saying we follow rules, but we don't have to follow the rules in all cases. Is that correct? Senator, I'm making some rules. Senator, I'm making an important tactical distinction that war fighters will understand, that there are the rules we swear an oath to defend, which are incredibly important in this committee understands, and helps set them. And then there are those echelons above reality from, you know, Corps to division to brigade to battalion. And by the time it trickles down to a company or a platoon or a squad level,

you have a rules of engagement that nobody recognizes. And then it makes you incredibly difficult to actually do your job on the battlefield. That's the kind of assessment and look that an Army major will give to this process if I was confirmed to be the Secretary of defense. Your quote is true understanding of that. quote in 2024, our boys should not fight by the news written by Hegseth facing cross-examination from Senator Angus King. It appears over the rules of engagement and the role of the Geneva Convention. One of the big takeaways I think anyone needs to understand at this point is the clarity through

which Pete Hegseth sees the role of the United States military. From his opening statement to his answers to the senators, he understands that the purpose is lethality to put the American people and its military on the front foot to win wars. He said he is not interested in a fair fight. He is interested in making the United States military lethal, and he is there on behalf of men with dust on their boots. It is a stellar performance, acknowledging my own personal bias. It is so far a stellar performance from Pete Heggseth.

Some of the more embarrassing performances so far have come courtesy of senators from the blue side of the aisle, Democrats. Maisie Hirono, absolutely. embarrassed herself. She didn't ask questions. She put together performance. She ran through almost every spurious allegation. She didn't seek answers from Pete. She instead gave a Rotten Tomatoes 5% level performance, a Razzie. She was outdone by the one center who was willing so far to get neck deep down in the mud, which is Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia. There was not one false, anonymous accusation he was not willing to indulge.

There was not one attack. He was not willing to push forward, including drinking on the job and infidelity. Pete handled himself well in the line of that fire. It is, I think, clear that your next Secretary of Defense will be Pete Hegseth. Let's get into this and much more now with story number one. He is the host of the Guy Benson Show at Fox News Radio every day from 3 to 6 p.m. He's my friend. He has also been a frequent guest on the couch at Fox and Friends, filling in as one of our co-hosts. And I'm sure he, like many watching right now, are monitoring, as we will continue to do, by the way, throughout this program, monitoring the hearing there with Pete Hagsit. Guy, what's up, man?

What's your initial reaction? I'm sure you've been watching this on Capitol Hill. First of all, I just want to congratulate you on your huge news, really exciting for Fox News, for you personally. and I'm sure that program is going to be must see TV 4 p.m. Eastern coming up soon, which is awesome. I just say, thank you, Guy. You know, you and I have known each other for a long time, and every step of the way when something has changed, I can count on text. I can count on support from Guy Benson, from ESPN to The Blaze to today. I so appreciate you, Guy. You bet. And also, big shout out, Charlie Hurd. What a great guy. What a fun guy. I was just guest hosting with

him, I think filling in for you actually a week or two ago, and he's just a blast. So I'm really excited about all of that. A couple things on Pete and these questions and the nomination, clearly he, I think, has prepared a lot for this. I think he anticipated the types of questions that might come, would come, and he had a plan of action in mind about how he was going to tackle them. And look, I actually think it is, some of the senators are disgraceful and, you know, sling and all of that. But that's also to be expected as part of the process. And he clearly anticipated that. I think it's important for someone who wants that amount of power to face really tough questions. The clip that you were just playing, the live dip in that we had there on the rules

of engagement and the Geneva Convention, like that is substance. That is worthwhile. I know they were sort of trying to do it in a gotcha way, but there's an opposition party for a reason. And I think Pete was giving voice and clarity to the distinction between the laws, that must be upheld, and then maybe some of the excesses that have crept into the brass in the military that make it really hard to fight and win wars. And I'd imagine, I am not one of them, but I'd imagine there's men and women in uniform watching right now, nodding along, as Pete explains to these senators, why he's coming to these conclusions, why he's making these points. So I think there's great utility, actually, whether Angus King is doing this because he's motivated

bipartisanship or trying to beat Heggseth. And this kind of. confirmation hearing, or if he's just like, hey, let's have this conversation. I think for us, especially civilians, and then, of course, the people who've worn the uniform, to hear these things hashed out in a way that's not all dressed up in like rhetorical tuxedos, where it's all perfectly manicured and the whole thing is like, you know, focus grouped and airbrushed into oblivion, to have an actual real conversation, I think that's actually part of the reason why these hearings need to exist. So that's one of my thoughts. I have many others, but I don't want to filibuster.

So I think that that's a really good point. And Pete is so perfectly positioned and capable of laying out those thoughts. This conversation over the Rules of Engagement, the Geneva Convention, can be instructive. I have a friend guy who I would describe as reluctant MAGA, ultimately a supporter of President Trump. When Pete was nominated, he doesn't know Pete. He texted me and said, what should I think about this guy? And then, you know, he said, well, I trust you. So I will support this.

that friend texted me yesterday and said I just finished the war on warriors so in other words he's now heard Pete's full thoughts on the military and he said I don't know how anyone wouldn't be enthusiastic about the confirmation of Pete Heggseth after reading the war on warriors that's what he has an opportunity to do right now

in some of the more substantive cross-examination there is the less substantive as well guy in fact I'm going to turn to Dan you know Dan well he's worked on your show as well to a date's I don't have the list of elements in front me, but you do, and I would love for you to just play us a little bit of what's happened so far. In fact, I don't know if you have anything from Maisie Hirono

or Tim Cain, but I do want to hear a little bit of what I think is the lack of dignity coming from some Democrats. Yeah, I have Tim Cain here. So you think you are completely cleared because you committed no crime. That's your definition of cleared. You had just fathered a child two months before by a woman that was not your wife. I am shocked that you would stand here and say you're completely cleared, can you so casually cheat on a second wife and cheat on the mother of a child that had been born two months before and you tell us you are completely cleared? How is that a complete clear? Senator, her child's name is Gwendolyn Hope Hegseth and she's a child of God and she's seven years old. And she was and you cheated on the mother of that child less than two months

after that daughter was born, didn't you? So that's one of the more difficult guy, um, moments. in this hearing so far. I will say, Kane is not, Kane is mixing two things at the same time. He's mixing a sexual assault allegation with what he seems to be transitioning into, which is infidelity. Pete, respectfully reminds him several times. There is no validity to any charge of sexual assault. As for the charge of infidelity, which I think Kane is mixing the two and putting Pete in that position is that he's never professed to be a perfect man. And he has talked about his imperfections and his mistakes and saying quite clearly, man, look, I am saved by the grace of God. That is who I am. And I'm not the same person that I have been in the past. By the way,

guy, I think Kane did worse than that. I think he threw every NBC anonymously sourced piece of mud he could pick up out of that pig's die. Pete, and you know this better than I do, you're much more plugged into this than I am. I had a few texts with Pete. That's it, since he was nominated. He knew, I would imagine, he's not a, he's not a dumb man at all. He knew this was coming. And I think he probably knew he had to take some of his lumps, right? There are elements of his background and his life. And I would venture to say, all of us have something somewhere that we're not proud of. And when you have the brightest lights glaring down on you, because you want a position of very significant authority, given the way that our politics

works, some of that stuff is going to get thrown in your face. And so I'm sure that was an unpleasant experience for Pete. I'm sure to some extent, he's like, maybe not relevant to the job, but yep, like, that's not a great look for me, right? I don't think anyone's going to sit here and be like, you know, A plus to Pete on that particular thing. But you're so right, there's such an important difference between, first of all, being arrogant, denying, um, Totally unrepentant on anything versus showing some humility, which is what he did in his opening statement and has sort of made that point a number of times, just sort of, you know, raising his hand, owning up to some extent saying not perfect, not claiming to be. There's a big difference also

between, as you noted, assault and infidelity. And when he was talking about being cleared, he was not saying, I'm perfectly morally cleared on anything I've ever done. He was saying there was never even a charge brought on this assault allegation. And our former colleague and my friend Megan Kelly did a deep dive into this and the police report. People are, I think, welcome to go watch that. You can find it on YouTube and elsewhere and listen to her podcast. These distinctions and these facts should matter. And I think the conflation that we saw leading up to the hearing and the inflation within the hearing from Tim Cain, perhaps we'll see it from others, is gross. The other thing I just want to say, Will, is Herono, Senator Herono. She is, I think, a dim-witted

person. I think she's a nasty attack dog who's not terribly bright. We have seen her in this role over and over again. And when this is what you do, when this is your, basically your trade is to come into these hearings and just read whatever nasty things someone has put on a piece of paper with apparently very little intellectual curiosity or even like... Honesty. Fairness of anything.

Your ability to score points is immensely diminished, right? Maisie Heron-O, when she's up next in the queue, you're like, all right, here comes a clown show because she's a clown. And it's not because I came to that conclusion today. It's because I have watched her. in action for years, right? So I think Pete actually benefits. Same thing, weirdly with Code Pick, getting up and screaming and interrupting his statement. I think that helps him because

average Americans who only pay a little bit of attention to this stuff, they know that when there's a high profile hearing, these shrieking communists stand up and get dragged out of there, no matter who it is, over and over again. So if they're trying to help by making Pete seeing, you know, particularly problematic, they're doing the same playbook that they do every single time for everyone, and therefore it all gets sort of like roll your eyes, throw it out, because this is who they are. Last point on the senators, and this has been a point of contention for me and a pet peeve for a long time, even wrote about it with Mary Catherine Hammond, my book, our book, in 2015, if you are Richard Blumenthal, the senator from Connecticut, and you know,

that you spent your entire adult life lying about serving in a war that you did not serve in on a hearing like this, if you had any shame or dignity, I would just defer my questions to the next person on your side of the day. I'll just be like, you know what, I've sort of surrendered my ability to have any moral high ground or indignancy on anything to do with the military, having been a stolen valor liar on this exact point for my entire. adult life. And yet the pontification, just turn on the microphone and here we go, because there is no shame with that person. And it needs to be pointed out every time he gets up on a high horse that he does not deserve to be on. Boy, so well said and exactly right. Let's illustrate for the

audience what you're talking about. First, here is Senator Richard Blumenthal. Mr. Hexeth, I'm asking you a very simple question. How many men and women currently serve in the United States Army. Senator, the United States Army, 450,000 on active duty, sir. And how many in the Navy? And the Navy is 425, sir. Well, it's 337 this year. How many in the Marine Corps? 175,000, sir. 172,000, 300. Those numbers dwarf any experience you had by many multiples. there we go that is a Q&A over the size of the United States military which I would suggest Pete passed with flying colors guy also watch you right that was I think it was like here I've got a question for you Senator I know he can't do this but I'm sitting there like I have a question for you Senator how many wars exact number how many wars did you serve it right and how many wars did you say you served it right those are two different numbers let's do let's focus on two other sets of numbers here that's good that would have been great and I can't tell people said I would love to see Pete and he could do that. I mean, he is a tiger with his claws retracted right now. But that was – notice, Will, that was like a little pop quiz.

Yeah, I know. I know. I know. And on the last one, like, Pete was within – 3,000, 2,500. He's like, technically, it's just like, yeah, thanks, Senator. You nailed him on that one. Silly.

A silly season. Guy, you also brought up Code Pink in the protest. That did happen at the beginning of the hearing, okay? Just a little taste for the audience to know it was during Pete's opening remarks. I believe it happened on four occasions. There was four separate interruptions that looked something like this. Thank you for figuratively and literally having my back. I think, like I said, I think four times.

Not only that, you are as Christian Zionism. I believe that was an accusation of Christian Zionism. I think, like I said, I think four times. somebody was carried out what you have something else two days okay let's watch i want to thank president trump for his faith in me and his selfless leadership for our republic the troops have no better commander in chief than donald trump as i've said to many of you in private meetings when president trump chose me for this position the primary charge he gave me was to bring the warrior culture back to the department of defense he like me once a pentagon laser

focused on lethality, meritocracy, warfighting, accountability, and readiness. So, I think you're right, whether or not it's Mazi Hirono or Code Pink, they actually diminish themselves and elevate Pete. I think I would also, just for the audience,

so that they understand, that gallery, Yeah, there's Pete's wife sitting over his shoulder, his sister-in-law, two sisters-in-laws, sitting over a shoulder. Jack Brewer is right over his shoulder. You guys know Jack, who does great humanitarian work, but also as a Fox News contributor, former NFL player. It's also full of hundreds of military veterans, including elite special warriors from the seals who mustered this morning and are sitting in that gallery. So, on one hand, you've got that. On the other hand, you have Code Pink. And look, I think it's to be honest, right? There's Code Pink and the freak show there. That's the CCP Simp freak show.

That's what they are. And by the way, as a quick aside, Christian Zionist was hurled as some sort of insult. You know who's a Christian Zionist, me? And I would venture to say you. And I'd venture to say most Americans actually would identify if, you. if push came to shove as both of those things. So if Christian Zionists is disqualifying, maybe if you're a communist, it is. But for most Americans, that's like extremely mainstream. Unworthy, unworthy of rebuttal is Code Pink. Guide, let's do this together. I want to dip in live now

because it's Senator Elizabeth Warren, who is cross-examining Pete Hegseth. nomination from President Trump. Now, I've heard of deathbed conversions, but this is the first time I've heard of the nomination conversion. And I hope you understand that many women serving in the military right now might think that if you can convert so rapidly your long-held and aggressively pursued views in just 32 days, that 32 days after you get confirmed, maybe you'll just reverse those views and go back to the old guy who said, straight up, women do not belong in combat. staff, you have written that after they retire, generals should be banned from working for the defense industry for 10 years. You and I agree on the corrosive effects of the revolving door between the Pentagon and defense contractors. It's something I would have liked to talk to with you about if you'd come and been willing to visit with me. But the question I have for you on this is, will you put your money where your mouth is and agree that when you leave

this job, you will not work for the defense industry for 10 years? Senator, it's not even a question I've thought about because it's not one, it's not one, my motivation for this job. I understand that. I just need a yes or no year. Time is short. I just need a yes or no. I would consult with the president about what the policy should be at the defense department. In other words, you're quite sure that every general who serves should not go directly into the defense industry for 10 years. You're not willing to make that same pledge? I'm not a general, Senator. You'll be the one.

Let us just be clear, in charge of the generals. So you're saying sauce for the goose, but certainly not sauce for the candor. I would want to see what the policy of the president is. Oh, I'll bet you would. Thank you, Senator Warren. Senator Tuberville. All right, there we go. That is, I think the end of about a seven-minute cross-examination,

which will monitor and bring back any relevant clips of what Warren had to say. You know, one thing that strikes me, guy, and I'm an attorney by trade, you know, and this is not a legal case with a real cross-examination. What always strikes me in these things is the level of talent involved, and it could be about motivation. What you end up with is performances? So in other words, Maisie Hirono didn't cross-examined Pete in a really devastating way because she was putting on a poor performance. Kane more readily, Tim Cain, cross-examined Pete, I think, in some very slimy ways. But from what I got to see here with Warren, they eat their time up by putting it on their own performance. I mean, Herono can't do it effectively because she's just not capable of it.

But some of the others are. Warren is smart. I think that that was an interesting question that she asked. And Pete was sort of like hadn't even considered it, maybe get back to you on that one. I think it's a fair thing for the Democrats to say you should have met with more of us. I guess Pete met with one of the Democrats. I think if it were a Democratic nominee who would refuse to or had not made the time to meet with a bunch of Republican senators, they'd be making hay of that. Yeah, but, Guy, you know what I'd like to know more about those invitations?

I would be surprised that Pete would decline those invitations. And maybe he did and maybe he didn't. But Senator Warren offer a sincere invitation to meet with Pete? Good question, right? That's something that I think is they've brought it up repeatedly. That's been one of their lines like, well, we could have asked you more about this. We could have gotten the details if you had shown up to meet us. If the invitations were extended and they were ignored or declined, I think that might have been an error on Pete's part, although he might have not wanted to play along with their games.

But unfortunately, whether you like it or not, that's, I think, a healthy part of the process. Bipartisan meetings, even with people that you expect to oppose you. As for that question, she was sort of saying, we have a point of agreement on this in terms of the revolving door. Will you abide by that? I suspect Pete will look at the rules. She also put out, I'm not a general, right? but she's like, you'll be in charge of the general. About the gallery, laughter was almost certainly from men in the military.

Yeah, yep. I think, I don't know if you disagree with me. I think that's a fair question. Like, you know, maybe a little gotcha angled. You've said this. Will you abide by that? Fair enough. And he could have a think on it.

He could get back to her, right? And he could write her a letter saying, you know what? You're right. I'm 100%. I commit. And she'll be a no on his confirmation anyway. Right. But, you know, sometimes people who are.

are ideologically extreme and personally that I find rather annoying, and she fits both of those bills, in my view, still can ask fair questions. I don't hate that question. I would love to hear the rest of her five minutes. I don't hate that question. I think that is fair. I think the position she puts Pete in there is, will you abide by a policy that does not exist because you've advocated for a certain policy?

and that is a difficult position to put people in. It's like, I'm not asking you to be someone who upholds a policy. I'm asking you to be someone who goes above and beyond what is required. Selflessly ignores a policy to your own detriment on principle, right, which I get, but that's clever, clever question from her. Right. And not to make her break in any way, shape, or form, but clever little question. Let's hear from Pete's opening statement.

I honestly think, I honestly think I, it might have been over after the opening statement from Pete. Thank you to my incredible wife, Jennifer, who has changed my life and been with me throughout this entire process. I love you, sweetheart, and I thank God for you. And as Jenny and I pray together every morning, all glory, regardless of the outcome, belongs to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. His grace and mercy abounds each day. May his will be done. Thank you to my father, Brian, and Mother Penny,

as well as our entire family, including our seven wonderful kids, Gunner, Jackson, Peter Boone, Kensington, Luke, Rex, sorry, it's a lot of them, and Gwendolyn. Their future safety and security is in all of our hands. And to all the troops and veterans watching and here in the room, Navy SEALs, Green Berets, soldiers, pilots, sailors, Marines, Gold Stars, and more, too many friends to name.

Officers enlisted black and white, young and old, men and women, all Americans, all warriors. This hearing is for you. Thank you for figuratively and literally having my back. did he rattle off seven children's names i didn't count it did he did stumble i almost didn't i hope for his his sake and his family he didn't forget one he said luke jackson he got wrecks um i know every single one of these kids and of course his wife and family here's the thing that was a personal moment guy my takeaway i got i acknowledge my bias to everyone watching i truly do my takeaway is from what you just heard it's actually illustrative because i know this about pete

who's someone whose priorities are in order, who at times in his life has failed himself on those priorities, but that's not the story of the man. The story of the man is not his failures, but his successes in the clarity through which he sees the United States of America. Priorities that he lays out, God, family, country, okay? And then the priorities of the United States military, focus on lethality, focus on the purpose of winning war, and don't be distracted by everything else. Cut out the distractions from wholeness and DEI to unmeritorious service to whatever it may be. The man sees clearly the priorities for himself in this country guy. Yeah. And by the way, as he's naming all of his kids, and you see some of these Democrats

on the committee today, huffing and puffing about character. We have a commander in chief who denied a child in his family for quite some time, right? And I didn't hear any of these. these people whining about that. It's like something that popped into my head when you were just talking about his children. Another moment that I saw that was interesting to me, Kirsten Gillibrand from New York, you know, got into it with him, made some fair points, made some other points that I don't think were as fair. I think he handled a lot of that pretty well. And one of the questions that she had was like, look, you are very ideological, you're partisan, you're very conservative. What about all these people who might serve in this was a good moment defense who are democrats yes who are who are leftists

and like are you not going to accept them because they disagree with you politically and he made the point that he signed up to serve one of the tours of duty under a democratic president yes and volunteered to protect that president's inauguration but was denied the ability to do so separate two separate democrats volunteered for war under barraq obama uh volunteered to serve in the inauguration, protect the inauguration for Joe Biden and was denied that opportunity, he said, because he has a Christian tattoo, which I think was really nice way of putting a bow on the issue of how the military in some respects has gone astray with some of this wokeness where someone with a tattoo like that, that is a symbol that you will see in Catholic churches

and elsewhere around the world, they decided that was some like, you know, um dog whistle some ink on skin dog whistle of extremism and therefore he was deemed a threat that's the type of ludicrous ridiculous thing that he has railed against righteously and correctly for years and he would bring those sensibilities and uh that sort of understanding based on his own personal experience and a lot of the research he did for his book uh he'd bring that to bear right in this position if he's confirmed well i hope the audience i hope it's understandable a lot of my attention today is focused on these hearings and will be as soon as this show is over as well. I'm going to do a quick transition with you guy and talk about one other subject.

I find it interesting. Are you on TikTok? I'm not. I am. What Will Kane's show is now, okay? And I know that when people upset with me about it, you know, the truth is, and I may even grow the presence of this show, streaming onto the platform as well. I want to reach everybody. And honestly, it's a huge platform to reach people where they are. We are in the process now as we speak of whether or not the United States Supreme Court will force the sale of TikTok. Kevin O'Leary of Shark Tank, Mr. Wonderful, he was on with us last week, guy, discussing this. He wants to buy TikTok.

Here's Kevin O'Leary. So what's the deal? The reports are you're buying TikTok. Is that happening? Are you getting closed? What's the status here of you in TikTok? Well, if it's going to be sold, I'm going to be buying it. The company has appealed to the Supreme Court.

They've lost every case right up the Supreme Court. So here we are. What they're telling the Supreme Court is, hey, look, we know we're spyware, but we operate in a society of free speech. So even if we're spying on you, screw you. And no one's going to buy us because we're not going to sell the algorithm. So we decided to let the justices know by putting out a press release saying we have a letter of intent. We've got a syndicate. We have the $20 billion you think we need.

And we don't want the algorithm. It's spyware. It's Chinese spyware. You keep the algorithm, keep spying on everybody else and your own people. That's fine. But we don't want that. And that's why you're getting shut down in the first place. So we're going to rewrite it.

So, Guy, we went on, by the way, and had a debate over what's it worth if you don't have the algorithm and, you know, whether or not he's trying to buy a distressed asset, forcing it into distress. We actually had a debate about it. The news today, guys, he might not be the only bidder. The other one, as of today at least, Elon Musk. Yeah, I mean, he's got a lot of money. He's had a lot of fun with one platform already. I have not joined TikTok on purpose because it is not only a Chinese espionage tool and platform. It is also a Chinese CCP propaganda tool that they are already using to propagandize

and God forbid if we're ever in a position of some sort of global conflict. One can only imagine how they would weaponize that platform against the United States and its own population. Having talked and interviewed many times on my show and in private conversations with members on both sides of the aisle, by the way, on the select committee on the CCP, the intelligence, the open source reporting and the intelligence is really distressing on TikTok. Now, if it were to be sold and it was an American ownership or a non-CCP ownership,

I would very much consider getting on or certainly my show and that sort of thing. Until that occurs, I'm personally a no. I think the Supreme Court is going to uphold the effective ban from Congress. I think Congress behaved rationally and seriously in putting, that law into place, signed by the current president.

And I've seen a point made a couple times will by a number of people who say the fact that the Chinese Communist Party linked company would rather shut down the app in America or at least make that threat than take a bunch of money. I think gives the whole game away. This is not about money. This is about something more important to the Chinese Communist Party, which is the whole reason why it needs to go or be sold. So hopefully it's sold.

and it's Mr. Wonderful or Elon or anyone better than the CCP, fantastic. If it's still the CCP with their fingerprints on it and their hands on the strings, I'm a no. And I think it would be crazy to have a company owned by an enemy directly beaming propaganda and spying on. It's not propaganda. It's the Will Kane show. It's the truth. No, Will.

Until they censor you. I know. And honestly, guy, but that's the debate I've had with other people is they actually have ended up censoring less. than some of the other platforms. As we speak today, Dr. Drew has been censored on YouTube. Here we are right now. We're on YouTube. Dr. Drew just got censored on YouTube because of his questioning over MRNA vaccines.

Now, I'm not sitting here arguing, you know, what is it? What's the saying? It's like two wrongs make a right or something like that. Like because YouTube or Instagram and Facebook do this, you know, we should forgive TikTok. But I have had the argument made to me. There's actually more conservative voices unfiltered on 10. TikTok and there aren't some of these other platforms. However, however, would that still be the case?

Because the Chinese Communist Party probably doesn't care about some of the subject matter where we've seen people on the right being censored by other platforms. But if you decided to go on a hardcore weeks-long expose on the genocide against the Uyghurs or a dive into Tiananmen Square, right? I bet you're obliterated off of TikTok. It might actually bother the Chinese Communist Party. then all of a sudden their hands-off approach might magically change, right? So I think it's more about their priorities, which is what worries me.

And this is not, I'm not debating you. You're right. On the other hand, are there things I can't say on Ukraine today on these other platforms? I don't know. I don't know. Is there a line where there are other conflicts around the world where you're not allowed to have a full and fulsome conversation that doesn't absolve China. That doesn't absolve TikTok.

It's just, I don't know. X seems to be the place where we are playing in a free speech sandbox. And that's one thing I will say encourages me about the potential for Elon Musk, owning TikTok. All right, guy, I'm going to leave it here if you want. In about two and a half hours, a guy kicks off the Guy Benson Show at Fox News Radio. 3 to 6 p.m. I encourage you head over there. At least over the...

What's that? Is Dr. Drew on tomorrow? You have Dr. Drew on tomorrow. There you go. You on today. You're on today. I am. I forgot.

in today yes um we need to talk about that because my travel plans have changed not closing me down but opening me up guy um and i would say uh next week you're going to be in a little bit harder position do you watch will it for or listen to guy it for so we'll figure that out as we go maybe there'll be opportunities for a simulcast oh i think we should do a little crossover action i think so i have three hours so you'll you'll have no excuse in the three or the five p.m. hour not to come join us. And then through all the mystical, magical things of taping, I could conceivably, hypothetically, tape some radio, and then join you on your program. If you'll ever have me on the program, I'd be delighted. I think you can expect an invitation. All right, check them out later

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Eastern Time at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Always available at Spotify and Apple. Guys, I had some meetings this morning. I'm not going to betray any of the executives or anything like that. But I had some meetings this morning. I want to share it with you. I want to share some of it with the audience about the vision of what we're all working towards here. Can I just tell you this?

I'm jacked. I'm pumped. Like, I'm excited. There is such a cohesive vision. Heck yeah. From me to us. To them, I think this is going to be so cool, the partnership between these two shows. It's going to be awesome.

Fantastic. On that note, then, I should probably go ahead and tell you, I will, in all likelihood, not be the next head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. I know that many of you were hoping for that day. I don't want to take it off the table somewhere down the road. It's a possibility, also governor of Texas. We'll keep these doors open. We're not closing doors.

We're leaving doors open, but today, if you'll stick around coming up a little later, I think I have a name. I think I know who I want. And it's going to represent a curveball from me in some past opinions that I've held. We're going to get to that a little bit later here on the Will Cain show. Congressman Eli Crane is a former Navy SEAL, a vet. And he is a supporter of Pete Heggsett. He was there this morning, Congressman, I understand, as several retired days. Navy SEALs. I don't know about active duty. You can fill us in on that. We're there at the Vietnam Vets Memorial, March to Capitol Hill, are sitting in the gallery now in support of Pete Heggseth. Quite a stark contrast from the Code Pink protesters. Congressman, thanks for being here. Why were you there this morning? Why was it important for you and your fellow former vets and seals to support Hegseth? Hey, thanks for having me on. Yeah, I think it's important because we want to show solidarity and support for a gentleman that we support for this position. I know President Trump supports for this position, but it's important that we get Pete Heggs at the cross the finish line because, you know,

he's an outsider and he's supported by not only the American people, but by many vets because we see him not only as a warfighter, but we see him as somebody who's focused on what the priorities of the military should be. And that's lethality. Yes. And it's focusing on, on the warfighter and making sure that they have the gear, equipment, and training necessary to do one of the most difficult and dangerous jobs in the entire planet if we go to war. And I know this president has done a good job in the past when he was president four years, four years ago in making sure that we didn't go to any new wars. And that's what many of us want.

We want to stay out of war. But if we have to go to war, we want our military to be phoenix. focused on lethality and focused on protecting our warfighters. And you saw the exact opposite when we withdrew from Afghanistan. You saw the debacle. You saw our warfighters, you know, be a small contingent of them being left, you know, behind to oversee this massive, just chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan. And it wound up with, you know, 13 dead Marines.

And, you know, many, you know, who are deformed. and will be the rest of their lives. And, I mean, this is why we need a guy like Pete Heggseth, who understands, has the trust of the warfighters, and who is also focused on ridding the military of diversity, equity, and inclusion. And this is one of the biggest cancers that is destroying our military right now. And so that's why we had so many veterans out there today, gold star moms, gold star fathers out there with us, a very diverse group of veterans that support Mr. Hegspeth.

Well, right now, Pete. is being questioned by a friend of the show, friend of the Will Kane Show, Senator Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma. We'll dip in in a moment. I don't know what Democrat promises to follow. Senator Mullen, we'll dip in that just a minute. But for the time being, Congressman Crane, I want to put up some of the pictures we have from this morning,

from what you guys, Bill Brown, Jason Redmond, Jeff Gumm, many other guys that I've gotten to know that I'm very grateful to have gotten to know over the years through the New York City Navy Seals swim. There are a lot of the integral figures here in putting this. You can see these guys marching in Washington, D.C., Senator Tommy Tuberville, yourself, many other elected officials as well, not just vets, but elected officials as well, there for Pete this morning.

By the way, Congressman, I was just talking about it. I didn't know. So Kevin O'Leary was on the show last week. You raised money from Kevin O'Leary on Shark Tank? That's right. Yeah, my wife and I, we got the opportunity to go on Shark Tank as I was getting out of the military and got a deal, got to run a veteran-owned, made-in-the-USA business for about 10 years here in the U.S. And we did all our manufacturing here. And Kevin was great, man.

Every entrepreneur I knew that came off a Shark Tank that worked with Kevin loved him. And did you get bid? How did it work for you on Shark Tank? Because at that I saw, Cuban was also involved in your projects, right? Did you have those guys partnering up to seed invest in your company? We did. We also had Mark Cuban as an investor in our company. And, uh, You know, I learned a lot. You know, definitely made some mistakes. But the thing I loved about it, Will, is it gave me something to sink my teeth into when I got out of the military. It got me, it gave me the opportunity to, you know, have a mission and something else, hiring veterans, making my products in the USA, providing for my family and, you know, supporting a lot of veteran nonprofits. And so it was a great opportunity. But, you know, got the opportunity to run for Congress. And, you know, God has blessed us with the opportunity to be. here and serve once again. Well, anyone who's ever been an entrepreneur knows it's about making mistakes. It's not perfect.

I, of course, wouldn't presume I could answer this, but I would assume a lot of the same qualities in warfighting. Nothing goes perfect. You have a plan. It's how you deal with mistakes. By the way, that's life. That's not just warfighting and entrepreneurship. That's life.

Get ready. Can we do this together, Center? Let's dip into the confirmation hearings for Pete Hegshead. I believe, is this Tammy Duckworth right now, which is something that we would want to hear. she's a veteran, a Democrat, and I think she is cross-examining Pete Heggseth. I would love it, Congressman, if you would dip in with me here and listen to the hearings. Our adversaries watch closely during times of transition, and any sense that the Department of Defense that keeps us safe is being stirred by someone who's wholly unprepared for the job puts America at risk. And I am not willing to do that.

With that in mind, Mr. Hex-Seth, I want you to try to explain to the American people, this committee, who have to vote for you, And to our troops are deployed around the world, why you are qualified to lead the Department of Defense. We already know that you've only led as large as a 200-person organization. We already know that you so badly mangled a budget that after you left, they had to bring in a forensic accountant to figure out what went wrong.

And the largest budget you ever managed was about $18 billion. You know, that is about 51,560 times fewer, lower than the Department of Defense budget of $825 billion. $16 million is $51,5608 smaller than the defense budget. Please describe to me, Mr. Hexseth, you talk about DOD passing an audit. Please describe to me a time or an organization that you led underwent an audit. Because you say you're going to hire smarter people than you to run this audit.

I'm not asking you to be an accountant. I want you to be able to tell me what kind of guidance will be given to those employees, what will happen if whether or not you pass that audit. Have you led an audit of any organization? Yes or no? I don't want a long answer. Yes or no. Have you led an audit of any organization of which you were in charge?

Senator, in both of the organizations I ran, we were always completely fiscally responsible. Yes or no, did you lead an audit? And the way by leadership has been stated, yes or no. What are you afraid of? You can't answer this question. Yes or no, did you lead an audit? audit. Do you not know this answer? Senator, every part of my leadership of these organizations has been misrepresented.

I will take that as a no. What were the findings? Though there were no findings, because you've never led an audit. What guidance did you give the auditors? None, because you've never led an audit. Nobody expects you to be an accountant, Mr. Hexsath. What we expect is for you to understand the complexity of this Pentagon budget process that is absolutely necessary to outfit our warfighters. All right, let's come back now here with Congressman Eli Krain on the Will Kane show. Senator Tammy Duckworth, which Congressman I would suggest is a fair question asked in a very unfair manner. She's not interested in an answer. I don't think you can box people into yes or no.

You know, I've been an interviewer a lot of times. I'm an attorney. You do worry about people filibustering to dodge, but you can't go all the way the other way and say your only available answers are yes or no. Yeah, well, here's the thing, too. They keep, you know, talking about Pete's experience and how big of organizations has he led to? the past. You know, when you look at many of us who have become elected officials or let's take President Donald Trump, President Trump was never a president before. And that's not why the people of this country hired him. They hired him because they thought he had leadership qualities and they had the qualities and the character that they were looking for. And that's why, you know,

they, you know, elected him as president. And so, you know, many of the qualities that make a good leader, I believe Pete Heggseth has. I love the fact that he's an outsider. I love the fact, you know, that he's been an advocate for veterans and the warfighters for a very long time if he paid attention, you know, to any of the work that he's done with Fox News. I also love the fact, Will, that, you know, in my belief, he was treated very unfairly by this out of control military because he had a tattoo on his chest of a cross. He was denied his orders. And so I like many of the president's picks of people who have been on the wrong side of this massive. bloated bureaucratic government, you know, it's weaponized, weaponized itself against certain patriotic Americans. And so for Pete Hexeth clearing out and cleaning up the military for him,

it's very, it's not just a focus of him, of his, it's also personal. And so he's not going to look at it as, you know, some conspiracy theory. He knows it's a real problem within the military. and it's why one of the reasons why our recruiting numbers are so low because real patriots are very concerned about not only the leadership within our military, whether they're going to be left out to dry, but also, you know, whether they're going to be blindsided, attacked, or persecuted because of their beliefs. You know, we'll continue to monitor that, by the way, Senator Duckworth, I believe she's a veteran. she lost, I believe, her legs in combat.

She will probably be questioning him about his opinions in the past on women in combat, something he's already addressed today. We'll monitor that throughout the show. You're plugged in. I have my connections as well, Congressman. My senses going into today, Pete Hegg-Seth will be confirmed. There are, of course, enough Republican senators to do this without the performance from the Democrats. He worked his tail off. He met with senators over and over, letting them get to know him and his point of view. But you're on the Hill. I just want to get your sense. Do you think Pete Hexiff will be confirmed as the Secretary of Defense?

I do. And I don't have a crystal ball. I won't make any guarantees. I've seen some crazy stuff in my short time up here in Washington. But I hope the, you know, especially the Republican senators are paying attention to the mandate that President Donald Trump just got. by not only winning the electoral college, but the national vote in a pretty historic fashion, the American people believe that Donald Trump has the instinct, the leadership, and the ability to, you know, turn this country back around. And for him to do that, it's going to be so important that he gets his people that are loyal to him, you know, in place. And Pete Hexeth is most certainly one of those guys. So I think it's going to happen. And I pray that it does. All right. Congressman Eli Krain, I hope you're not a stranger to the show. I'd love to see you around more.

I want to be the place you can come to give your unvarnished opinion and have a back and forth in ways that very few places exist in news and politics media. Appreciate you being on the Will Kane show. Brother, and congratulations on your show, man. Thank you so much. All right, there he goes. Congressman Eli Kramer.

All right, let's do this. Let's take one more quick break, and then we'll come back and I want to talk to you about some of what I've learned about what we'll be doing next week at the four. This is a day I'm focused on Pete, not focused on what we're going to be doing, but trust me, I'm covered up in meetings. Like, I have my phone, by the way, and my YouTube TV open with the volume up and down in these meetings watching Pete. But we got work to do here on the Will Cain Show.

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What I mean by that is we ain't coming out of the gates with the full blossom of this rose, but I don't care. I'm not worried. That's not me. I'm usually like white knuckle. You know, you guys know me. I'm chill, I'm chill But I feel so good At every level of this thing

That everybody shares a vision, man Okay I really do We're talking about what the studio is going to look like Which it won't in the beginning It's going to be simple In the beginning What I'm going to wear

There was conversations today about what I'm going to wear Yeah There's some voices out there that are pushing me even more casual How about that? Fascinating Not sure that's where we'll land A common name of shorts. But you know, one thing, good thing, I absolutely, I know this, I absolutely, more than at any point in my four years at Fox have gotten to know the people in charge of Fox.

And, and I love the vision. I have such respect. I'm full of gratitude, of course. But there is a real, fellas, a real embrace of us being us. and me being me and this being different. I don't want to shock the Fox News viewer. I don't want to like shake the snow globe until it's unrecognizable. We're going to earn our way with you, the audience.

We're going to earn our way to fully being the full version of who we are. But we're going to get there. We really are. And the main thing is that I'm me in the beginning, no matter. And in the end, it's all bells and whistles. It's, you know, is Will wearing a tie? Is he wearing a, you know, a suit jacket? Is Will doing this?

Is he standing in front of a wall? Is he sitting down in a studio like Sean Ryan interviewing guests? Whatever, right? We're going to get there. That's all bells and whistles. I've said, they told me, it's just be you, man. Just be you. That's all we want.

Which is awesome to hear. And it's going to take some reminding. I know that's hard, everybody watching, like, look, it's my currency. Being real and authentic with you. Always has been. you know how it is. Say you're watching, like, you go into a party, you know, and you've never been there. And let's call it like a big one, right?

Like, let's say you're going to the inaugural ball. Yeah, for real. Let's say you're going to the inaugural ball. Are you walking into the inaugural ball 100% the same dude you are when you're cooking steaks and drinking beers with your buddies on the back porch? And the answer is, come on, be real. Trying to wow your date. But ultimately, I want to be the same dude.

You know? I'm, you know, I'm a, I'm an extrovert. I've got a pretty big personality, but I don't impose it, I think, in every situation. And that's what the beginning's going to be like, walking into the inaugural ball. And like, but I'm just going to chill and be me, you know, I've done every kind of TV there is to do. So I'm not scared of that, you know, debates surrounded by seven liberals on CNN, debating that, debating sports across table with Stephen A, this show, the Will Kane show on ESPN. I've done every version, Fox and Friends, every version. I'm not worried about that.

All elements from all parts of my career are going to be brought into that. As is my law degree and my sports background and, you know, everything I've ever done. But I hope you'll be patient with me. I do. The perfectionist in me will want it on day one and may not be there until day 365. You know, I've talked to tinfoil and every one of you guys about this. Like most people weren't. you know,

meaning like whatever they were on day one was not what we know of them of today. Our show here was changed from day one here to now. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. So that's the part that makes me nervous,

but I am beyond excited by the shared vision. Let's do this two days. Can we dip in? I just want to see where Heggsett is right now. Better yet. I'm backed up to Warren. I like that.

So we're going to back up here and listen to a little more the cross-examination from Senator Elizabeth Warren. and we only heard the tail end a little earlier. This is Senator Warren and Pete Heggseth. I've been trying to get answers from you for quite some time on this. You haven't wanted to meet or to answer any of my questions.

So we'll just have to do it here and dive in. I want to pick up on some of the questions asked by Senator Shaheen and Gillibran and Herono. And I just want to make sure we have a list of some of the facts that I think are undisputed. I'm not going to talk about anonymous sources. I'm just going to quote you directly. We've got the video. we've got it in print. So going back to January 2013, you told a Fox News interviewer that women in the military simply couldn't measure up to men in the military saying that allowing women

to serve in combat roles would force the military to lower the bar. You picked up on that same theme in 2015, making remarks on Fox News, referring to women in combat as, quote, erode, it would erode standards. June 2024, you said on Ben Shapes. Pira's podcast, quote, women shouldn't be in combat at all. And then, of course, we've talked about it in 2024, you published a book, and you say on page 26 of your book, we need moms, but not in the military, especially in combat units. Page 48 of your book, you claim that women should not be in combat roles, because men are distracted by women. And then 10 weeks ago, you appeared on the Sean Ryan show and said,

I'm straight up just saying we should not have women in combat roles. Now, I presume you recall making all these statements? Senator, I'm not familiar with the article you're pointing to in 2013, but it underscores my argument completely because in that 2013 argument, I was talking about standards. Standards are what it's always been about, Senator. Please, let's not have this same side again. Always been about Senate.

I've quoted you directly. We've got the video. We're happy to show it. But I want to be clear here. For 12 years, you were quite open about your views, and your views were consistently the same. Women are inferior, soldiers, sailors, marines, airmen, and guardians. And in case anyone missed the point,

and these are your words from 10 weeks ago, women absolutely straight up should not be permitted to serve in combat. And I notice on each of these quotes, those are said without qualification. It's not by how much you can lift or how fast you can run. They don't belong in combat, period, or your words, straight up. And then on November 9th, 2024, just 32 days after your last public comment saying that women absolutely should not be in combat, you declared that, quote, some of our greatest warriors are women.

and you support having them serve in combat. Now, that is a very, very big about face in a very, very short period of time. So help me understand, Mr. Kemp, Seth. What extraordinary event happened in that 32-day period that made you change the core values you had expressed for the preceding 12 years. Senator, again, I very much appreciate you bringing up my comments from 2013

because for me, this issue has always been about standards. And unfortunately, because of some of the people that have been in political power for the last four years, priorities of the standards, let's just stop, let's just stop right there. If it's going to be that, then I can't continue with it, meaning if there's not going to be a back and forth of a true earnestness, Warren's question should be put back to her, maybe not in that hearing and maybe not at that time and maybe not by that person, but I can do it here on the Will Cain Show.

Women can be excellent soldiers. Women can be heroes in combat. But the question when it comes to a policy for military services is whether or not you make a policy based upon the exceptions or a generality, a standard rule, a rule of life and thumb. And the issue is not just one of cohesion, because that is the honest truth that they may not get to, but unit cohesion, whether or not men and women serve well together, whether that's the right thing for a unit, whether or not that is the best way to create a lethal fighting force, but one of standards, as he points out, because the exceptions of women that can meet the standards of the men are exceptions and not the general rule. They seem to think that identity politics has no end And this attack based on identity politics is lethal No, what should be lethal is the United States military S&J's mom on YouTube says

It's disgusting this character assassination And Breitrick, who's with us a lot, says I'm watching the whole thing And Pete is fantastic. Sam S on YouTube says Pete has been doing well despite the mudsling by the left side of the aisle Edward Barnes says everyone has skeletons in their closet his personal life is his alone it does not affect his work performance appreciate your comments part of what we want to do continue to grow here is bring that in more often you you and every form video comments and every form here into the will cane show calls voicemail every form here

into the will cane show all right I got a name for you guys you know I I think I put it on several text chains. I don't know if I told you guys. I'm texting two things right now. Thank you. I'm getting a lot of wonderful nice notes. Thank you. I'll also get to this meeting.

Yes, sir. And, yes, ma'am. And Dion. I'm in, boys. Oh, good luck. I'm in. And I saw it reported this morning on Fox and Friends. It's a real possibility that is being considered by Jerry Jones.

Now, I said on Fox and Friends that Dion had been overhyped. as the coach of Colorado. And he had. He had. He was overhyped. And then, you know what? He began to start to live up to the hype. Colorado ended up...

I mean, I know what happened in the bull game. I know what happened in the bull game. But do you guys remember how bad Colorado was? Yeah. That ain't who they were this year. But that's not really even my argument. And it's not a Shador Sanders argument. This is a unique argument for the Dallas Cowboys.

Everybody texting me, oh, how do you feel about Mike McCorm? Carth, you know, and I actually put on a text. Lawrence Jones is part of this text. I'm like, oh, man, we're just going to mess it up with some other coach. What we're going to do? Nine head coaches since 1989. You guys do know the answer to this trivia question, right? Do you know how many head coaches to Dallas Cowboys prior to 1989?

Two? Tom Landry and Jimmy Johnson? Do you know? I don't. That was wrong, wasn't it? Do you know tinfoil? It probably just one, but just Tom Landry, right? It was one.

In the history of the Dallas Cowboys. Prior to 1980. That's when Jerry Johnson's brought up. That's when Jerry Johnson brought up. Jones bought the Dallas Cowboys. One, Tom Landry. Deion, though. Nine. In the subsequent, what is that? 35 years.

So, I think it takes a unique individual to succeed under Jerry Jones. I really do. Didn't you mention Mike Tomlin? Yeah, but see, on that note, I did that yesterday. I like Mike Tomlin as a coach. I like Bill Belichick as a coach, but that's not the end of the argument in Dallas. That might be the end of the argument in Green Bay. But that's not the end of the analysis in Dallas. The analysis has to be how do you survive in that immediate environment and how do you survive under the management of Jerry Jones? And I can think of a personality no more capable of that than Dion Sanders. Can he handle Jerry Jones and his kind of...

It goes one of two ways. I think that's right, Judge. And that's fine. If you have one year and it blows up, what's the worst that could happen? You find another coach? I actually think would blow up before that. I think it would blow up in the hiring process. I think Jerry would love Dion. I think he'd actually, in some ways, be deferential to Dion. He likes guys like Dion. I think that Dion could thrive in that role. By the way, this analysis also works the other way. I wouldn't sit here and tell you that Dion's the perfect coach for Green Bay. I'm not saying, like, Dion's the hottest coaching commodity. That's not what I'm telling you. Frable. Frable's the new head coach in New England. Yeah, I wouldn't see Dion in New England.

I just think this is a unique potential marriage between coach and franchise that only works, perhaps, maybe not only, in Dallas, but has a higher likelihood of success in Dallas for Dion and for the Cowboys. Everybody's making faces, all of you. Let's go ahead. Tinfoil first. Okay. First of all, the likelihood of you guys mortgaging your future, a bunch of draft picks for Shudur. because Dion's going to want Shadur Sanders as his quarterback. It doesn't have to be. I don't think that has to be.

That's a pipe dream. That's what a lot of people are saying. It's like he'll consider it if he can have his boys on the team. He's not a dummy, though. He knows you don't really get to manipulate the NFL draft in that way unless your last name is Manning. I'm saying, but if it does happen, okay, and then it fails after a year, then you're stuck with Shadurr Sanders and, you know, he doesn't want them up to the height. Okay. I think Shadur is good.

By the way, speaking of Manning, I got a really concerning text today. From Manning. No. From someone in the know, I've got my sources. You need to prepare for some big, big time talent to be walking out of UT this year. Not Manning. I want to be clear. Not Manning.

Well, Quinn's gone. Wide receivers. Defense. Guys, you're like, why? Why? Like, you could be headed towards a stellar career. and do you want to know the answer? There's just no reason.

Dude got playing time. There's a couple dudes. Rough ending of the season. No, dude. You made the semifinals for the second year in a row. You can do anything at the University of Texas you can do anywhere. It ain't about winning two a days. It's not about playing time.

It's about one thing and one thing only. Cash money. You know, a lot of these... I hate that. Dude, it is other programs throwing ridiculous money at studs. I'm not saying names. but studs. And it doesn't matter where you are.

You could be at Alabama. You could be a Georgia. The question is, are they going to pay you as much as we're willing to pay you to transfer? And by the way, you're like, well, it's Texas. They've got as much money. They'll pay. No, this is an issue for some of culture. So it's like, you know, say your Sark, if I do this,

what does that put me in a position to do every year going forward? And how do I create a culture of not mercenaries but a team? Look at Carson Beck to Miami. Multi-million dollar. But I think that's a little different. Like, do you think Carson? Yeah, he probably would have been the starter. Machialli, warned of mercenaries.

Yeah. Yeah. It's so concerning, man. It's so concerning. It's all free agency. Yeah. All year every year. Free agency for college football.

All right, you were making faces about Dion two days. I was a little skeptical at first when he said it, but it's flashy franchise, flashy coach. I think it could work, and he has a relationship with Jerry Jones. I don't know. I think it works. You're right. I do. Yeah.

You're a very good swear when it comes to sports talk. Thank you. Only on sports talk? Not on news and politics? I'm getting there, man. Dude, it's taking me a long time. I'm getting there. I'm getting there. I think it's only on news and politics and not sports.

That's for you, Tinfoil. Sam. Sometimes. He's tinfoils becoming my sports nemesis. The person I like seeing a tax. from least when it matters around the world of sports. Okay, that's going to do it for us today. I'm going to let you turn you back over to the confirmation process,

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