Will Cain Country - Will Cain's Reality Check: Stop Making Excuses, Gen Z! (ft. Kayce Smith)

Episode Date: May 22, 2026

On today’s laid-back Friday edition of 'Will Cain Country,' with Two-a-Dayz Dan upgraded to Barstool's Kayce Smith, Will and Tinfoil Pat have another wide-ranging, free-wheeling conversation centere...d on the Gen-Z vs Boomer feud. Will dispenses much needed advice for the young, black-pilled generation and look at some of this week's best comments from you, the Willitia.Plus, Will puts Kayce’s acting skills to the test and Tinfoil Pat runs them through a Sports quiz gauntlet. Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠ Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@WillCainNews) Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:34 Casey Smith, starting with the Battle of Generations, Gen Z versus Boomers. Casey, what is your biggest pop culture blind spot? What is the thing that everybody says they've seen? they've heard, they've watched, and you have to pretend or check out of the conversation. Usually anything with TikTok stars, does that count as an answer? I guess it does in 2026, but the entire industry would be a cultural blind spot for me. But you have more. Come on, Casey. Did you see The Sopranos? I did. I actually watched it all straight through for the first time like two years ago. because I had time on my hands.
Starting point is 00:02:21 The wire, I've never seen the wire. That's a big one. I mean, right now, which I don't care, but right now the big one, I've never seen The Devil Wears Parada the first movie, and all of my friends are obsessed with going to see the second one. And I just never cared to see the first one. I've never seen the Harry Potter movies. Oh.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Yeah, but I've read the books. That feels big. Trying to think of... Okay. I guess maybe, and maybe this is more social media too. Like, I don't watch any, like, of the housewives summer house. Like, I don't watch any of that stuff. So when that comes up, I just check out, I don't know, what's yours?
Starting point is 00:03:03 It's once again an illustration of the, man, I'm not saying I'm like the most masculine dude in the world. Okay? I don't grow a healthy beard. I weigh 180. I feel like if you were saying, what is the ideal masculine? masculine man. Okay, he'd probably be, and you can help us out here, Casey. He'd probably be, okay, I'm in the height range of the ideal masculine man. I probably need another 10 pounds of muscle. Okay. A stronger jawline, a deeper voice, and a thicker beard. So I'm not saying I'm the most
Starting point is 00:03:40 masculine man. Go ahead, Patrick. Go ahead. What do you have to say? Little bird, chirp. You hear me? You think Grand Platner You think the Grand Platiner looks like The ideal masculine man? No, I'm just joking. He does, does it
Starting point is 00:03:55 You know what though, man? Like, on paper, know nothing about the dude Graham Platner walks in. Yeah, you're right. He's got the thing. Whatever that is, it's like, at least as far as dudes see it.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Casey, do girls see it the same way? Like, Casey, do you know who Grand Platner is? I don't know who that is. is. Jack Mack said, no, nobody would know in the office yesterday. Who is that? First of all, Jack Mack throwing me under the bus feels, no, no, no, no, he wasn't throwing, he's throwing everyone under the bus. He didn't name you. No. Yeah. And it wasn't even throwing on it. Listen, this is, this is where I'm going, okay? I'm really good at this. I tie things together. This is what I do. Okay. This is my, the weave. Okay. We live in bubbles in worlds.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Okay. And that's just such a fascinating thing. That's what Jack Mack was talking about yesterday. If he walked through the barstool offices, he thought he would hit maybe, what did he say, Patrick? Five people that knew who Graham Platner was. Two. Two. And that's not an indictment in my mind of barstool. Maybe a little. It is, it is, but also like, you don't want to be the overly political person who knows every single thing about politics. That's not. right. That's not healthy. That's not normal. So, Graham Platner, let me see. Tell me,
Starting point is 00:05:24 I want you to ring the bell, Casey, when you feel like you've heard this. Well, I googled him. Nazi tattoo. Oh, yeah, yeah. I've heard you talk about this guy. I just didn't know the name. He had a Nazi tattoo and now people are saying that you can forgive it because like he doesn't mean it anymore.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Okay, and he's on the left. So. But that's the same guy, right? But yeah. That's the guy. Now you got a picture of him? Yes. Right?
Starting point is 00:05:55 Does that look? Men would say, okay, Patrick, you think I'm nailing it? Graham Platner is built, but Dadbod. He's not like ripped. He's just built but Dad Bot. Yeah. Yeah. Nice thick beard.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Just, I mean, I'm not saying he's a good-looking. guy. I'm not saying he's a good looking guy. I'm just saying he's masculine. Is that fair? That's fair. I do think that, and maybe this is in my older age, I feel like masculine also, like, it's not just
Starting point is 00:06:30 the look. It's how they carry themselves too, right? So it's like I maybe that's absolutely. Like I have to be around somebody to know if they're actually masculine or not. But like this guy, like, sure I guess like, I think you're just going off of the beard. And first of all, I've seen videos of you.
Starting point is 00:06:45 You can grow a fine beard. What are you talking about? You just to keep it like a two. What you're Googling, Casey? Three. No, my beard's a little. What are you talking about? You don't grow a beard.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Yeah. Well, I've got the reverse Hitler. I talk about that. I've got the reverse Hitler, which is I don't grow hair where Hitler had his mustache. Like, if I grow a mustache, I've got this gap in the middle, right here. Like, I could, that, see, left? You want to call me a Nazi?
Starting point is 00:07:15 I can't even. grow a Hitler mustache if I wanted to. See there? Can't even do it. So case closed. No, this, I guess this would be- I can grow a mustache, Ed. I can't grow it in the middle. I've got a gap. I can't grow a Hitler mustache. So if I grew my mustache out, right there down the bridge of your nose, whatever you call this thing? What do you call that thing in the middle of your nose in the middle between the two nostrils? If you draw a straight line down from that, no hair. No hair. See, now you've got me Googling. Now you've got me Googling your beard, which is kind of a weird Google search while I'm live on your podcast.
Starting point is 00:07:51 But I agree. I don't see. I don't see. I don't see. Will Kane beard. Wilcane beard. I follow Will Kane's hair on X, but it not is beard. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Yeah. Casey. That would never fix that. Anyways. I'm into this. What you said, masculinity, you're 100% right. There's masculinity in a still picture. There's masculinity.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Then you can add in the voice because a deep voice clearly boosts the concept of masculinity. But ultimately, I do think I can attribute this to masculinity as well. There is something else that is intangible. Like you said, you use the word how you carry yourself. So now I'm going to ask you a different question. Okay. What is the most masculine trait? being protective and having an alpha presence without being a douchebag.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Like if somebody commands a room and like it doesn't matter if it's men, women, whoever, like, that's very masculine to me. But not coming in and being like, look how amazing I am. But like that just natural ability to command the room is very masculine. Guilty as charged. So confidence? Confidence. presence, presence. Yeah, presence.
Starting point is 00:09:13 And just like you, you're so, like, you don't, you're not trying hard. Because I do feel like, and maybe this is where being, you know, 37 being a millennial, like, I feel like a lot of these guys that are in Gen Z that think it's very masculine, like you're trying to be masculine, so you're no longer masculine to me. Does that make sense? It's like trying too hard. Yes. And masculine comes easily.
Starting point is 00:09:38 It's not real. Right. So it's like, obviously, like, we could translate this into the kids' terms. What you're describing is aura. That's what they call aura now, right? Like, it's, it is a combination of confidence and presence and charisma and these things. And that guy can be short. That guy can be tall. That guy can be fat. That guy can be skinny. That guy can be a lot of things, a lot of things. And what's weird about it is you could have all of the objective things. on paper and still not have that. Yes. Right? Like you could have everything that should add up to it and not have the equal sign, make the math work. I feel like in even some TV shows and movies where they try to cast like the masculine
Starting point is 00:10:25 actor, right? And it's usually a guy with dark hair, dark beard, jacked, maybe not overly jacked, but you can tell he lifts weights. You don't really know how tall he is because you're watching it on TV. But then as soon as like he actually starts acting, you're like, yeah, this was not, like this guy's not masculine. He might look masculine, but he doesn't present himself as masculine. But John Hamm had it.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Yeah. In Mad Men. Yes. Like where you just kind of like, it just kind of oozed out. Like here's an example. I love entourage. I think entourage is one of my favorite all-time TV shows. Ari Gold to me, while a very alpha male, wasn't always very masculine to me.
Starting point is 00:11:05 He had that ability, but like he wasn't a just an overly masculine. masculine guy. To me, it was like, he's very powerful. He's very alpha. But there was some parts where I was like, this isn't masculine. This is, I don't know how to explain it. Like it wasn't feminine, but there's a difference to me. Like John Ham's character versus Ari Gold, that shows the difference right there. And I love Ari Gold. He's one of my favorite. So I disagree a little bit. I disagree a little bit. I think, and we really need to talk about him in terms of characters are not actors because I don't know the actor. I know the character. Right. So Vincent Chase didn't come off as masculine to me. He had everything on paper. He was good looking. He got
Starting point is 00:11:52 all the girls in the show. But there's something about it. And it could be the actor. I don't know. I've never met the actor. It could be that he doesn't have that. And so he couldn't put it into the character. But whatever it was about Vincent Chase, he didn't care. He didn't care. You know, I'm saying I'm still adding things that should add up to it. It just didn't add up to it. And Ari Gold did to me. And, yeah, he's bombastic and he was explosive and he got angry. But do you know what it was about Ari Gold that read a little more masculine to me?
Starting point is 00:12:24 What? Pure id. If that makes sense. Id, it's like there was no filter which read as authenticity. And that level of authenticity required some level of comfort even with your insecurity. And that that read a little masculine to me. I mean, I guess when you look at when you and I don't think Jeremy Piven, by the way, I don't think Jeremy Piven has that. I've seen interviews with Jeremy Piven and he's way different than
Starting point is 00:12:53 our eagle. Which it, which was jarring the first time that I ever saw the difference because I, you know, I grew up in a time where it was like entourage was, I mean, that was like high school and college for me. So like that was like all we, all we watched. But I guess when you compare it to Vincent, you compare it to E, Turtle, Johnny. Like, yeah, he would be, Ari would be the most masculine character. But then throughout the show, when they would bring directors on that were actual real masculine people, like, Ari did shrink to a lot of those things. And like, this is where like my nerd, like I'm starting to nerd out with Entourage,
Starting point is 00:13:26 because like on paper, yes, of course. But when you start bringing in like the really strong guys, like he was always the one that was like trying to fight for the attention. And that to me didn't read his. masculine. Now maybe I'm just picking him apart too much. That was the first example that came to my brain. Well, here's what got us on to this path. As I was saying, I'm not the most masculine dude in the world. I'm not projecting that, pretending to be whatever. But I have definitely lived a life that is guy-centric. And I don't know how else to explain that, right? I haven't had a lot of
Starting point is 00:13:59 girl friends in my life, meaning friends who, girls who were just friends. I don't. I don't have daughters. I'm pretty big presence in my household, meaning like, I don't watch things that I don't want to watch. You know, the arc tends to bend towards what I want. My point is, you started pointing to your pop culture blind spots, and those aren't even blind spots to me. I don't even think about that. Like, I don't think about the housewives. I don't think about TikTok stars. That could be generational as well as male, female. I think about things like this is also going to be generational. It's starting to be generational. The Godfather. That used to be a marker. Like had you seen the Godfather, right? I started with Sopranos with you. The Wire,
Starting point is 00:14:50 Breaking Bad. The Wire is the one that I have-Shashank Redemption. I have seen Shoshank. We had to watch that in high school. I have not seen the Godfather. In school? Yeah. You had to watch Shawshank in school? Yeah, I think my senior year of high school. What a cool teacher. And a philosophy class. What class was that?
Starting point is 00:15:13 It was philosophy. I was actually trying to remember the teacher's name the other day because he's one of those teachers where it's like, you know, 20 years later, you wish you could write a letter. I think he got in trouble for showing us Shawshank, but he showed us all kinds of stuff like that, especially because I went to a Catholic school and we learned about atheism in that class. We learned about all sorts of stuff. We watched Shawshank. Hmm. Well, it's interesting. I don't know what my biggest pop culture blind spot would be.
Starting point is 00:15:40 For a while, it was the godfather, but I've seen the godfather now. Supranos was one that I held on to for a long time where I was like, it's too long. There's too much. But then it became a thing where I was like, well, I have time now because I, like, I'm not, you know, like I have a child that goes to sleep early at night. And it's not the football season so I could watch it. And I'm really glad that I did. The one thing with all those shows, though, now, it's like the gap's going to keep getting bigger, right, for the blindness,
Starting point is 00:16:06 because, like, you're not going to get, I'm sure your sons, well, maybe they are, because I don't know, like, what they're into. Like, are they going to sit and watch all of those episodes? Because, like, they just don't make TV shows like that anymore. That's a daunting task to watch episodes of shows like The Sopranos. I have one son that might because he's super into these, like, what are the greatest pieces of content of all time? He's into the lists that are coming out on TikTok and Instagram.
Starting point is 00:16:31 And he wanted to, I've told the audience, watched Shawshank the other day. And he's got to, I don't know where he gets his list from. He wanted to watch prisoners. And he loves it now with Jake Gyllenhaal and Hugh Jackman and all he said, which is really great movie. So I think he'll, they both of my sons have watched Breaking Bad, I'm pretty sure, which is a huge commitment. Okay. Yesterday with Jack Matt Casey, we had this debate. And it was really kind of driven by tinfoil Pat.
Starting point is 00:17:01 who tried to half, he didn't try to half my audience. I'm afraid he tried to exile 75% of my audience. I tried to nuke the whole thing. Which is, it's gone. Yeah, you tried to end this show, which is great. You can go back to electrical engineering. I mean, whatever, dude. I have options.
Starting point is 00:17:20 I'm going to have another show in the afternoon. So you nuke this one, and I've got another show. Don't worry. No matter what Patrick says, you still have my mom and my grandma on your side. Let's take a quick break, but continue this conversation with Barstools Casey Smith on Will King Country. Hey, y'all. It's Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair. Ever order furniture online and wonder what if? Like, what if doesn't hold up? That sofa was four days old. You should have ordered from Wayfair. With Wayfair, there's no what if. Just style you love and quality you can trust. Visit Wayfair.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Wayfair, every style, every home. Welcome back. We're still hanging out with Barstools Casey Smith. I can't tell you how many times people tell me that. Tonight is high school graduation. And a lot of my sons, friends, parents, who are my friends, too, said, listen, I need to warn you at graduation. My mom wants to meet you. So I'm like, just line the 80-year-olds up. My 90-year-old grandma, like, blushes when I say that I get to do shows with you. Like, she's like, oh, my God. She didn't care what I'm doing at all.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Like, I could not exist in this conversation. She's like, you get to, like, see him in person. So you've got that going for you. you are you are boomer lady catnip yes well you're you're trying to kill it dude Patrick attacked Patrick don't kill his vibe I know and he's don't even open it up
Starting point is 00:18:45 don't open the door because he's just going to do it again he can't help I need to hear about it but the audience by the way side note will the trendy thing today and I don't know if you're a nice coffee person but I had to go do it Dunkin Donuts is doing buckets of ice coffee today. So you're going to see it all over all the TikTok. This is a 48 ounce buckets of ice coffee.
Starting point is 00:19:06 So it's limited edition today. So that's and I just happened to stumble upon it and I had to have it. So please, please ignore me. Do you drink all that today? Yeah, probably, which is a sign of a bigger issue. But yes, probably. Wow. My technology is not working.
Starting point is 00:19:27 working. Ed's working today, so everything is a little subpar. But how did Patrick try to, we got some viewer comments. We got some viewer comments on Patrick's attack on boomers. So Kevin O'Leary, Mr. Wonderful, said that Gen Z shouldn't be spending $28 on a sandwich while making, what do you say, Patrick? Do you say $70,000 a year? Is that we said? Which I think is a little high. I think you understand what they make. But, and so the conversation turned into sort of like, what is the life that you are entitled to? And is Gen Z believing that they're entitled to things that are too much, something that you acquire later in life with more wealth? And a lot of, we have Gen Ziers that watch as well.
Starting point is 00:20:20 And they were mad. They were with Patrick, a lot of them. And so here's a comment from Stephen Novak. And he says, what keeps us broke is people like Kevin O'Leary and his data centers and his shark tank buddies. They have enough of everything to decide what they think you owe them to survive. People like him are what's wrong. Save the migrant's family story. He puts people up or he can destroy them with money and power.
Starting point is 00:20:52 It's his decision and it's just for him. I think the migrant thing is real quick is a shot that the fact that he's Canadian, which is also on my crap list. So like if you're a boomer or you're Canadian or a Canadian boomer, watch out. Don't go on my ex feed. You're just launching an attack on Canadian boomers today? All of them. Anything, like the whole, you know what a Venn diagram is?
Starting point is 00:21:26 I love Venn diagrams. I love the end diagrams. Just the, I love the both circles and the middle. I do feel like Canadians, I was on this show right after the hockey, all this hockey stuff. The Canadians can get very sensitive if they think that you're making fun of them. So if you are also attacking boomers, then I can see that being an issue. Well, I'm trying to read the Gen Z comments here, Pat. There's a lot of boomers here as well.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Here's Mirror of Aphrodite says, this idiot really just said that lettuce and fish are a luxury. Lettuce and fish. Luxuries that the average human being is not entitled to. This is where we're at, folks. That's a attack on board, Jack, Mack. Jack said that lettuce and fish are luxuries? Salmon.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Salons. Yeah. I mean, I don't think it's a luxury, but I definitely don't think that if you're broke, you're going for a salmon Caesar salad on a daily basis. But I don't know, Will, you have kids that are that are that age. Like they just don't like the social media, I feel like, I mean, I've recently like been like conversing with people that are younger just like my like my job has that part of it.
Starting point is 00:22:42 And it's like they really do just like live in a different world because they've had social media since they were born basically. So it's not the same. Like it's just they their brains aren't going to comprehend it the same way that we do. And definitely not older generations. us. Denise Packett says, now she's a boomer, I assume. She says, why do you assume all boomers are rich?
Starting point is 00:23:03 I never paid $28 for lunch. Bringing your own food is how you can save to buy a house. This has nothing to do with AIDS. It's just math. She's 100% right. So I've been thinking about this. And it kind of ties into what we were talking about a minute ago about what Casey you said about masculinity. So I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 00:23:20 This is my breakfast conversation this morning. And this is what I do on Fridays. So, you know, I'm trying to fight through Ed's technology here, too. Okay, there we go. Comments are up if you're watching on Facebook or YouTube. Good job, Ed. Good job, Ed. You know, you ever think about this?
Starting point is 00:23:45 And I think it's micro and macro, so stick with me here. People write stories in their head. I think about this a lot, right? Because, yeah, I'm in the news business. but we're also in the story business. And the story business is incredibly important. And I don't mean to diminish the idea of facts and news, but it's how you deal with facts and news. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:08 So you write a story in your head. And that story defines how you see the world. We're just talking on the micro level right now, right? And it's not real. Now, that can be good or that can be bad. So back to that masculine thing. But I have, I will say, and I think one thing, I have, I think I can accurately diagnose myself with two things. I have a decent level of self-awareness.
Starting point is 00:24:35 I can step back and say, you know, how I've behaved or how I'm, what I'm doing and why. And with that, I can say, I have a pretty high level of irrational confidence. My confidence exceeds what it should add up to on paper. Okay. Now, the why, I don't know. I don't know why. I wish I knew why. But I do know that that confidence has enabled me. Like, if you had to ask me, what is the most, what is the biggest ingredients to any measure of success I've ever accomplished in life? It is because I've had confidence to do certain things. Okay. And that's a reflection of the story in my head. And I don't know what the story is, but that story is in my head. And it defines how I see the world and how I behave, right? And it can work in the reverse as well, like we described. You can add up on paper to a certain thing, but the story you have in your head adds up to less, and that begins to define how you see the world and how you behave in the world.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And I think, now to go macro with this, that Gen Z, Patrick, and the black pillars like you, it doesn't, at some point the story, just, you haven't even heard me yet, Patrick. You already shaking your head. pillar. So I just, I watched, I watched, you are a black pillar. Face change. Like he was ready to fight right then. Yeah. I mean, the story in his head is already a tragedy. And the, the conspiratorial tragedy. The story that Gen Z and to some extent millennials are writing in their head, Patrick, is one of victimhood. It truly is. And it's that you got put behind the eight ball by previous generations and the economy and the system is built together. you and it adds up so much to inability to achieve. Now listen, here's where you're going to get
Starting point is 00:26:31 caught. Here's where you're going to get stuck, Patrick. That's not all wrong. The facts might support what you want to say, the story in your head. They might to some degree, okay? But that's not the end of the story. The story is what is going to be defined in your head. Okay, because a five foot two dude that is overweight but has a story in his head about who he is, is 100% capable of accomplishing way more than what objectivity said that he could accomplish because of the power in his story. And the Jin Zeeb story at large is poisoning an entire generation to victimhood. And they see the world, and this is not to a man, because everybody writes their own. individual story, but now we're on the macro scale. They're seeing the world through this lens
Starting point is 00:27:30 and you're teaching an entire generation of people to see themselves as victims. And I'm going to tell you, I'll give you a more concrete example. And I don't care how controversial this is. This is 100% true. I do believe the macro story told within black American culture is completely de-deenabling, unenabling for the population. at large. How hard is it to break out of your own individual story, right? This is what psychology is all about. Like, how hard is it to write your own rewrite, rewrite your own story? Now think about that when there is a macro story on top of it. This is who you are. This is what's working against you. This is the system built against you. These people don't like you.
Starting point is 00:28:17 These people think less of you. And by the way, some of that can be true. That's not the point. The point is that story is being guzzled, digested, internalized, and it defines how you see the world and therefore how you behave. And even worse, I think, in the example of black culture, you have the story and then you have all these cultural mechanisms which write the story on a continuous basis. Like when people say that hip hop or rap is degenerate, this is powerful stuff writing these names. narratives over and over repeated like a chant when you sing along. And the story is so encoded at a macro level that it puts you so far behind the eight ball as an individual that you can't get beyond the objective fact to get to what you actually want to achieve in life. And the people that do, we always look at, you know, Clarence Thomas, whoever you're like, wow, think about
Starting point is 00:29:22 what you had to overcome. And when I say that, I don't just mean, oh, the system. Oh, you grew up not speaking English. You spoke Gala. But you had to overcome the psychological story that you wrote, that other people wrote for you, that other people told you was true that society at large repeated in music and movies and narrative. You had to overcome all of that to become who you are. And I think that this is a problem on this debate on Gen Z versus Boomers, that the young generation is teaching themselves in repeating macro and micro stories that will keep you in the whole. It will keep you in the whole, even if parts of that story are true. So Patrick, when you want to rebut me, you're going to say, generational debt, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:09 how hard it is to buy a home, interest rates. And a lot of that's going to be true. But in the end, eff it, man. Eff it. Not Fet Give up. Evet. Fet. You're bigger than that story if you believe that in your mind. All right. That's Will's soapbox.
Starting point is 00:30:29 I don't disagree with you about that. Nothing is stopping me. But I do have, I'm on a uphill trajectory in life. It's like everything, I mean, it's like, it just means you have to work harder. So it's like there's nothing stopping me
Starting point is 00:30:47 from achieving what I want. But that's not unique. to you. That's my point. Do you know how many people have uphill trajectories in life? I mean, honestly. Yeah, pretty much. But I'm not fighting for people who are successful. I'm fighting for people who are successful. I'm fighting for people who are kicked down by the system who just want an average life because like that's most of the people in in America. And they just want. But the question, what we're debating. Because they're not going to be able to fight.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Okay. Are you entitled to that average life or do you have to fight for that average life? And how hard should it be to fight for that average life? That's an okay debate. How hard should it be to fight for that average life? But in the end, the only person that's going to fight for you on that average life is you. And if you focus on this negative story, you won't make it up the hill. You just won't. You just won't. Sure. I think both of those things can exist. And from where I sit and I, you know, I brought up social media earlier, and I feel like that's a big thing, you know, that we're kind of overarching like, well, social media is a problem.
Starting point is 00:31:56 But Will, what you're saying about the stories, and I'm not even talking about specific algorithms. I'm just talking in general. We know this. Like, if you're sad and you listen to sad music, you're going to be sadder. If you're upset and then someone pulls that fire, you're going to be more upset. So because we live in this echo chamber of social media, then anytime somebody feels some type of way about a situation, you're not going online to find somebody that disagrees with you to make yourself feel better, you're going online to find somebody that agrees with you completely so that then you can get more upset
Starting point is 00:32:31 or feel validated in how you feel. And that to me, with Gen Z or even, you know, it doesn't even matter necessarily age, but that to me is the biggest issue is that it used to be, like in my parents' generation, a little bit younger, it's like you go through things, you talk to your family, you talk to your friends. You may watch something on TV, but now it's like, well, I feel this type of way about my situation. I'm going to go on to X. I'm going to go on Instagram. I'm going to go on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:32:55 And everyone's going to feel the same way. And we all feel like shit now. I don't know if I can swear. So I'm sorry if I did. Sure. But like that's the way that they feel. And that's what the big issue is. Do you say swear?
Starting point is 00:33:05 Do you say swear? I mean, you're from Arlington. I said cuss. I said cuss. I said cuss my entire life. And when I moved to Boston, the words that I got like literally. locked out of me, Will.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Like, there were words, like, the way that I said, like, insurance. No, it's not. Okay, actually, can we, we can talk about. You are a cultural sellout, Casey. When I said Arlington for the audience, for the record, not Arlington, Virginia. She's from Arlington, Texas, which is, there's no reason you should know it outside of the fact that it is between Dallas and Fort Worth, and it's where the Cowboy Stadium is. Other than that, I forgive you for not knowing Arlington.
Starting point is 00:33:44 But she's from Arlington, okay? And she drank, she just showed off her. gallon of freaking Duncan. Okay, like that was some cool thing, right? It's, first of all. And I like Duncan. I like Duncan. I like Duncan. I like Duncan. But it's like, look, again, self-awareness. Waterburger, it's okay. It's okay. It's not as great as we pretend it is. Will. It's okay. It's not as great as we pretend it is in Texas. The breakfast. That's what I do, Patrick. The breakfast at Waterberger is exactly what we think it is, by the way. Like you get a good bacon, egg and cheese tequito with some salsa delicious.
Starting point is 00:34:22 The reason I'm showing off the Dunkin is because right now they're offering a bucket of ice coffee. Because your cultural sell-out. First of all, no, I'm not, but I, what's wrong with Duncan? Should I have a Starbucks? Would that make you happier? Nothing? No, I just told you. There's nothing wrong with Duncan. Are you sponsored? Are you getting paid for this on the Will Kane Country Show? What are you doing with Duncan right now. Because they gave me a bucket of ice coffee and it's bucket coffee day. It's literally today. Actually, I posted it on Instagram and Dan, who I hope he feels better. He was like, where did you get that? I was like, I'm telling you. It's the thing today. So I just didn't want people that are
Starting point is 00:34:59 watching it on YouTube to be like, what is she drinking right now? I need to explain it. I like it's the Waterburger of the Northeast. It's fine. But you guys act like it's like something incredible. It's fine. Everybody, you want to pull through Duncan? Sure. Do you like it better than Starbucks. I like it at least as much, possibly better. Yes. How about McDonald's coffee? That's good coffee too. Yeah. But it's not, it's not special. Mr. Dallas over here, you guys, not y'all, you want me to start picking apart how you're talking right now? Because when I started saying you guys, all my friends in Texas were like, oh, you've given up Texas. And now you're just dropping you guys. Should have said y'all there.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Did I say you guys? Yes. I said you guys. I will. But the point is, You should say cuss. That's what we say here. That's how we grew up. Do you cuss? We don't say curse and we don't say swear. Those sound like fancy people things.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Swear and curse. Okay, so there were a couple things. First of all, when I, like, y'all, I was actually told I shouldn't be able to say y'all on TV when I worked for ESPN. I don't know if that ever happened to you or if you had already dropped y'all because you went to, you know, college in California, which is also very anti-Texas. So don't get me started on this. Right. out of the corner. She's trying to fight out of the corner. Here we go. Mr. Texas over here, Pepperdine, please. But they told me I wasn't allowed to say y'all on TV.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Not wasn't allowed. That's paraphrasing. But that it was like, hey, like, you know, we're going to be a national audience. Maybe you don't say y'all. So that I felt like I had to lose. And then like little words. I mean, I was on TV three hours a night, five days a week in Boston. I'm going to start picking up things that I should be saying there. So if I say, swear whatever you didn't even say y'all in your studios in Dallas so i don't want to hear it from you what do you call smaller vehicles smaller vehicles cars cars no cars so you didn't pick it up that much oh no listen i i i dropped the a kaz i um when i was living in boston i was around a lot of people who lived in boston like i would enjoy when i'd had a little bit too much to drink trying out my Texas slash Boston accent hybrid.
Starting point is 00:37:15 It was very ugly, very disgusting. Well, I have to have drinks. You want me to have a bottle of wine and then come back and try it? It's one of those things you have to have the liquid courage. Your Gallin Duncan doesn't do it for you? No, it makes me want to say things like swear and not cuss, apparently. Let's take quick break, but continue this conversation with Barstles, Casey Smith, on Will King Country. Visit BetMGM Casino and check out the newest exclusive.
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Starting point is 00:38:00 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Welcome back. We're still hanging out with Barstools Casey Smith. We had David Marcus on the show smoking once. So, you know, we'll, we'll start having people drink. I mean, you should, y'all should do like a drinking episode. Would Fox News be okay with that? Well, I mean, Kennedy does her happy hour, right? Yeah, I mean, Sean Hannity, isn't Sean Handy doing that on his
Starting point is 00:38:29 pod? The thing about it is, like, it can't be a bit. Like, it's not, that's, it's, it can't be a bit. Like, no, you can't have an issue bit. Who cares about watching somebody drink? No, it has to be like a conversation. You've got to be a drunk episode. Yeah. Did you guys see Bill Marr? Did you guys see Bill Marr and Woody Harrelson? Hi.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Yes. It's my favorite. It's the best podcast. And I know people, some, there are a lot of people that are probably watching this or listening to this that like don't necessarily want to consume people drunk or high or whatever. I personally like when I see people, like as long as it's not, you know, like an offensive slop fest. Like, I like that because it's like,
Starting point is 00:39:14 this is like I feel like I'm having a glass of wine with my friends right now. So you can have your skinny margarita will. I just like seeing people laugh. Yeah. Laughing is the best. I love seeing people laugh. Um, but you were saying,
Starting point is 00:39:27 you listen to people cussing, you're going to cuss. You listen to sad music and sad. Just to put button on this conversation about the story in your head. I just, you know, honestly,
Starting point is 00:39:38 Ben Shapiro is right when he criticized pop music. You know what? You guys remember that? That's like 10 years ago when he did a thing and everybody made fun of him about, yeah, he did it about WAP, but he was, and I think Shapiro says he listens to classical music or something like that. But it is true. And it's not just what you feed yourself. It is, it is what you tell yourself. And I'm getting more passionate about this story. And it's easy to didactically say. it's somewhat easy to diagnose. I fully recognize that it's hard to change. I don't even know how one goes about, rewriting your story. But I just know the power of story. And one more to put a button on this. This is why, yes, I'm in the news business, in the fact business,
Starting point is 00:40:28 but why it is so important. We talked about the power of mythology the other day with Scott Mann, Patrick. And this is why the attack, on American mythology, on the American story is so corrosive, so cancerous. It's not being replaced with an alternative positive story. It's only being replaced with chaos. It's only being replaced by tribalism. It's only being replaced by negativity.
Starting point is 00:40:57 And that a people can be destroyed, a demographic can be destroyed, and individuals can be destroyed. and one of the most powerful ways to do so is to destroy their story. You can do it to yourself. You can do it to a generation and you can do it to a nation. And that in the end cannot, in my mind, be overstated. I also, sorry, Patrick, go ahead. It's already been done. And that's another thing.
Starting point is 00:41:27 One of my points is that these young people are becoming radicalized. because of the situation that they're in. And like we talked about with Jordan Peterson, you know, if people can't survive in a system, they're not just going to go along in the system. They're going to overturn the system. And so I'm just trying to make people aware of a problem and be the disaffected,
Starting point is 00:41:53 because sunlight is the best disaffectant for issues and societal woes. But it's not denying that there's a reality to what you say, if I respond to you, people have been way worse off through history than the troubles and travails that are currently faced by Gen Z. And therefore, it is not the solution to become disaffected. It's not the solution to become an accelerant. It's not the solution to give up. if a frontiersman living sustainably meal to meal can do it and build a life, so too can Gen Z. But we're going backwards.
Starting point is 00:42:44 So like the thing is all those progressions were happening. Everything was going forward. And now we're slipping backwards. And so like, we're supposed to be in the wealthiest country in the world. So I'm just. I get what you're saying because I completely agree. Because like I, you know, I read Little House in the Prairie with my kids and I know what those things are like. And I know what people used to go through.
Starting point is 00:43:08 A hundred years ago, people were still used like 50% of the country were still using outhouses. So it's like we don't really realize that. But, you know, I'm just saying like we were progressing and now we are sliding backwards. And that's a problem. But there's also an element of because there's, and I agree with Will that there like two things can exist. Like those things can absolutely be hard for whatever generation it is, whether it's Gen Z or Boomers or whoever. And because everyone can talk about the trials and the tribulations, they feel much louder and much worse than they ever have because anybody can talk about it at any given point and given a platform.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Whereas like my grandparents going through whatever they had to go through to raise their kids, which was probably really, really hard for women who couldn't get education, for women who couldn't make a salary, for women who couldn't vote, all those things. but they couldn't log online and say, oh, my God. How did we talk into a femme movement? Were we talking about women? What just happened? It's hard.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm, I think it's only like first or second wave, so. But I'm talking about Maya, right? My, like, the story that I tell myself, it's just in general, like, I feel like we live in an echo chamber where everything is really bad because everybody else is going to tell you it's also really bad. That doesn't mean there's not bad things happening. It just means that it feels a lot worse sometimes. And like, will, going all the way back to the beginning. when you were talking about the micro and the macro, like, I completely disagree when you say the
Starting point is 00:44:29 story that you're, that you tell yourself might not line up on paper, because that's kind of the whole point of this. It's like, if you tell a story to yourself and you can back it up with whether it's success, whether it's your family, whatever it is in life that you're like striving for, then you are allowed to tell yourself that story. Doesn't matter how tall you are, how rich you are, how good looking you are. It's like at the end of the day, that story matters. And maybe that is where the feminism comes in, like as a woman in sports. If I, I stopped because at 25 years old, they said you're a woman in sports. You're never going to have a voice because you're blonde and blue-eyed and you're a female.
Starting point is 00:45:02 I would have stopped at 25. Like I wasn't going to let that story. Oh, yeah. Did that blonde and blue-eyed thing really hold you back there, Casey? They told me, Will, I had a boss at ESPN once told me I was not smart enough to do anything else because I was a sideline reporter and that was it. Like, that's a real, like, that's a real. He literally was like, you're not smart enough to do anything else. And I was like, well, that's awful to say.
Starting point is 00:45:24 and now, you know, not that I would ever out his name, but he knows who he is. Listen, Tracy. When I run into a, yeah, at ESPN. And it was a- Will tells me that all the time, and he doesn't even tell me I'm pretty. So I don't know what I'll tell you. Oh, it wasn't a, it wasn't a, like, you're really good looking. You're just not smart if it was like, let's line you up with every other sideline reporter
Starting point is 00:45:46 that's around your age and like, let's really break it down. Which again, I don't care. That was over a decade ago. But there is an element of like, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, story that you tell yourself. It's like, what if I just said, okay, well, I'm not smart enough to do anything. I'm just going to quit now. We're not disagreeing. I don't think you do disagree with me. What I'm saying is, and I don't like this saying, people say this perception can become reality, but your self-perception can become reality. That's what I'm saying. Like, you write your story,
Starting point is 00:46:15 and then it becomes reality. It's like magic. It is literally magic. And it's not magical thinking, like just walk around and believe this or that, but you use it then as a tool to effectuate the things that need to become reality, right? I mean, like, I tell these stories, but like, I don't like telling these stories in this context because, like, I'm patting myself in my back, but like, you know, I was hanging out of Ed the other day, and he's like, oh, I don't understand what'd you do in this and how'd you do this. And, like, I do tell the story. I emailed the president of CNN in the middle of the night or 10 o'clock at night, and I guessed at his email address. And that's it. And that's it. That doesn't mean that everybody that does that
Starting point is 00:46:57 does that means it's going to work. But that's how I got my first job in TV. And I don't know if that was confidence. I don't know what that was, but that was a story and a belief in my head that possibly this could be the outcome and then it became a reality. I didn't stop by telling myself, oh, it's a random email. He's never going to respond to it, you know? Which, by the way, odds
Starting point is 00:47:21 are he wasn't. Objective. the truth was he wouldn't. Objectively, the truth was he wouldn't. Anyway. But there are those two things. Patrick. Those two things can exist together. Because not everybody will have anywhere near the luck that you had with a cold
Starting point is 00:47:37 email like that. And also like you did it because you had the confidence in yourself to do it. Like that's what this all boils down to. It's like we can all like tell each other that we're awful or we can tell each other we're great. Like I don't know. And I don't know how you fix that. But this current generation is like everything stacked up.
Starting point is 00:47:53 against us. So every day they're going to live as if things are stacked up against them. And I'm saying, I don't care what other people tell you. It's what you tell yourself. So stop telling this negative story to yourself. Stop telling it because it is cancer. You can take the, this is like the movie Limitless with Bradley Cooper. You can take the pill that will start to unlock things. Or you can take the black pill that, that I promise you will destroy things. Patrick. You have a quiz for us today. I told you to prepare one for Casey.
Starting point is 00:48:27 I have no idea what it is. I have no idea what it is. Are they sports-oriented? You wanted sports? Yeah, yeah, they're sports-oriented. If this is trivia, I am the world's worst trivia. No, no, no. You're going to get this.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Negative. Negative story. You're going to lose. This is what I said to Ed when we play Bumper Pool. Hold on. Hold on. People wonder when I win. When do I win the bumper pool game, Ed, before it ever starts?
Starting point is 00:48:58 I win the game before it ever starts. Self-awareness. I can sit here and tell you I'm bad at trivia just like I can't play in the NBA. Those two things are equally the same for me, okay? And you'll never do either of them because you keep yourself. And there's a little bit of me that thinks under the right circumstances I could play in the NBA. You know what? You know what?
Starting point is 00:49:21 Under the right circumstances, every once in a while I'll be watching an award show. And I'm like, I could win an Academy Award. I think that if I wanted to do that, I could do that. I'm saying like, Hey, before we, before, before we do the quiz, okay, this is going to be a fun game. Where is your most irrational confidence? I actually don't believe I could ever, under any circumstances, play in the NBA. What is my most irrationally confident thing that I could do?
Starting point is 00:49:46 I don't know if I could do this on the spot. You think you could win an Academy Award? That's an easier one because who, it's, uh, I've, I've done a little acting. I have to do commercials. They do commercials, and that's acting in a commercial. And I'm definitely better than the Secretary of Ward acting. Much better. Take Solis and that, folks.
Starting point is 00:50:08 He's a bad actor. So when you see him at the podium, I can promise you, it's not acting. Because he's one of the worst actors I've ever seen. I mean, he'd deliver a line in these commercials, and I'd be like, well, we're going to be doing a second take on that one. Third take, fourth take, fifth take. All day. So I think that if I really buckled down, because, you know, I was the star of some plays in elementary school in junior high. Okay, I chose to play basketball.
Starting point is 00:50:40 I chose to play sports and I loved football. So that's what I want to do. I irrationally think that if I buckled down and was like, okay, I can go into acting. And if somebody, you know, obviously you have to have somebody give you a shot at something like that. I think I could win an Academy Award. if I really wanted to. I think it would be fun. I really would like to do this.
Starting point is 00:51:04 To be put in a movie, like a serious movie, not like the ones where they take... You know how Adam Sandler will sometimes take people like Dan Patrick? I think Dan Patrick has been in some Adam Sandler movies. It looks like Dan Patrick's a pretty good actor. But I'm talking about the bar, like Adam Sandler, if he put me in a movie, wouldn't be like,
Starting point is 00:51:25 that was horrible will. We've got to do five more. takes, I don't think, because there'd be a lowered bar. Like your presence, not that I'm famous enough, but your presence is all we need here for this cameo. But I think it'd be fun to be in a real movie where there was a director that said, I want to see you act this scene. I've never acted in my life. I didn't do high school drama. I didn't do any of that stuff. I wonder how hard it would be. I'm not saying I'm good. Like Brad Pitt, I know you're listening. I'm not saying I can do what you do. but I'm just wondering, you know what I'm wondering?
Starting point is 00:52:01 Here's what I'm wondering. If you put me and Shay Gilgis Alexander on a basketball court, the difference would be obvious immediately. If you put me on a movie set, would the difference between me and Brad Pitt be obvious the same gap? Because Brad Pitt, SGA, that's fair, although SGA is a huge flopper and you can't land on his feet, and I can't stand it and it's awful to watch
Starting point is 00:52:27 and you have feet, Shay, and when you shoot a jumper, please land on your feet and quit trying to draw the foul. So we'll pick a different NBA player. But I just, I know there would be a big gap. Like, I'm talking about the lighting crew and the audio guys and the cameraman and everybody's on set and then Will does his thing and Brad does his thing and they're like,
Starting point is 00:52:49 holy shit, we got a long way to go. Like, how big would the gap be? I think here, and this is where, again, the irrational part of me comes in, it's like, if it's for like one role that you know you're going to play and you buckle in, the thing with like Brad Pitt or I love Denzel Washington, like Nicole Kidman, they can do it for any type of role. That's where I don't, like, I feel like I could maybe be like a specific type of role. It's where they can just transform into anybody.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Like that, that's where it starts to get a little bit like, okay. Because you look at like, I know Matthew McConaughey wrote a whole book about, you know, how he gave up on acting because he didn't want to be typecast in the rom-com anymore because he was really hoping to break through that and then true detective came along and I like I feel like if I was in like a rom-com all the time like I could do that if I'm trying you know if I'm going to have to play somebody with a British accent you know who is just absolutely opposite of anything I've ever been that would be more difficult so that's kind of where the irrationality will do you let's just find out you going on stage with Brian Kilmead oh god yeah I wouldn't very good
Starting point is 00:53:53 I'm getting my charger. Sorry. Oh, keep talking. I mean, it was, listen, it was fun. But let's think about your acting abilities. Yeah, it wasn't very good. Yeah, that's a good point. It was fun.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Yeah. It was good thing that you did it. But, I mean, like, Brad Pitt would have done a better job. Probably. Well, yeah, that's not the debate. I'm trying to figure out the gap. It would have been a big gap. Because I can see the gap.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Because you think about the people who do, listen. Would it be the, people who do Hallmark movies right now who are probably much better actors than you are. And they're terrible actors. Definitely. Right? And they're bad actors. And we know that.
Starting point is 00:54:34 This is part of the irrational. Patrick, this is where we're saying it's irrational because we just, and I do think there's an element of like being in, even though it's live entertainment, like there is an element of it's like, well, I can get on TV and talk in front of a microphone by myself or with somebody else and I can do this. So it's like, how much harder is it to be to pretend like you're somebody else? doing it. It's irrational, but it's there. Right. Right. Like, it's there. Now, what I do know is that if I go out on a basketball court with, you know, like with Caitlin Clark, I'm not going to be anywhere near as athletic as she is or able to shoot a three-pointer. But could I hang on a Hollywood set? Yeah, I think I could.
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Starting point is 00:55:39 Actually, a lot less. Visit staples.ca slash preferred. That was easy. Welcome back. We're still hanging out with Barstools Casey Smith. Okay, let's find out. You think you could do a rom-com. You think you could do.
Starting point is 00:55:54 do a rom-com, Casey. Okay. Scene. Oh, boy. Okay. Let me have some coffee. Yeah. Here we go. Scene. Your boyfriend just broke up with you. Yes. I want to see you telling your best friend, you're devastated and you're heartbroken. You're at the coffee shop with your best friend and you're telling her you just lost the love of your life. Hold on. I'm going to give her a second to internalize that and breathe. No, no, hold on a minute. If we're going to. Casey, if we're going to as a fill in. Casey, no, I was going to say if we're going to role play. Casey, there's a budget here.
Starting point is 00:56:34 We have to get through the dailies today. Five, four, three, three, two, one, action. agree to this. If you are, you have to be the best friend on the other side of the phone. I'm not role playing by myself here. You're going to roll play with me then. Okay. Okay. All right. I'm ready. All right. Okay. What's Casey calling me for? It's late. I got to go to bed. Okay, fine. I'm not going to screen it.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Hi, Casey. I just don't know what I'm going to do, Will. I just, I'm going to actually start crying now. You're going to make me start. I just, he's going to leave. He's gone. I have nothing else to live for. I just, like, what am I going to do without him? I have nothing. What are you talking about? Slow down, slow down, slow down. He told me he doesn't want to be able to her because he doesn't love me. He just doesn't love me anymore, Will, and I don't know what they said. He said that. He said, I don't love you. He said I never loved you. He said that. I've wasted my whole life. Never. Never. He's never loved me.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Well, then he's lying. I've seen you guys together, Casey. I've seen you guys together. I've seen the way he's behaved. There is no way he can say, I never loved you. He's a narcissist, he's a gaslighter. I just hate him. I just hate him so much. What am I supposed to do? I've wasted all of my youth for him. I threw away my career for him.
Starting point is 00:58:05 What am I supposed to do? Well, if you really believe all of that, and I don't know if you really believe everything you just said, but if you really believe all that, why are you laughing? Why are you laughing? She's not laughing. Is this a prank call? Is this a prank call?
Starting point is 00:58:23 Did he really break up with you? Will, I'm so delusional. It's late, Casey. I've got to go to bed. I don't understand now. Why are you laughing? Because I'm in so much pain and I have so much grief. That's pretty good. You know, you guys pretty good. I mean, I think Fox should put you guys in Bob's burgers or something soon. Yeah, I thought we were good.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Yeah, I thought we were. Great. I could have done that for a long time. That's my point. My irration thought. Patrick. I saw Patrick. Patrick stopped looking at whatever he looks at that is below his, his camera. and he looked up and put his head in his hands and digested that scene.
Starting point is 00:59:05 I saw it, Patrick. So you were captivated by something, Patrick. Who was better, me or Casey? Well, I felt like for a while there, Casey was given, like, I felt like she was really crying. There were occasional times. I feel like we need to work on your improv a little bit because you got to let, you got to let her kind of. Mine? Yeah, just a little bit.
Starting point is 00:59:25 My degree of difficulty was higher. That's true. I was playing a girl. Okay, let's run it. then let's run it back. You play the devastated one. But see, you played it a little too masculine. So maybe if it was like the best. No, I was being very feminine. I thought by interrupting her and making her, I think I nailed that.
Starting point is 00:59:44 I think I nailed that. Girls have to be more like when girls can sit there and they and they like go into it and they complain and they whined. You have to like just listen. You can't have, you know, that's how they work. They don't want you to give them, you know, any critiques. They don't want you to help them. I don't think so. I think they interrupt each other a lot.
Starting point is 01:00:05 I think they interrupt each other a lot. I don't know anything about women. You'd say it up front on the beginning of the show. I can give an opinion on this. I will say, I will say that the first thing that should have come out of your mouth is something along the lines of, well, we've known he's a piece of shit. Like, that's, that's where. Like, that's the, that's the, that's, that's the, that's. that you need.
Starting point is 01:00:29 And then it's a, okay, like, let's work through this. You did say, you know, I've seen you guys together. That's not true. And had this been, you know, late night HBO, I would have cussed a little bit more because I would have been like, stop effing lying to me. You know that's not true. Listen, I'm ready. I'm Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Give me a call. All right. So her acting might be better than her, her acting may be better than her trivia ability, but we're about to find out. What do you have for us today? Will, there are 11 teams in the Big Four sports. Sorry, WMBA. We're talking about NBA, NFL, NHL, Major League Baseball.
Starting point is 01:01:12 And they don't end in the letter S. What are those 11 teams? Okay, how do we want to do this, back and forth, until one of us fails? Yeah. Okay, Big Four sports, 11 teams that are not played. pluralized, not with an S. Okay, I'm ready. I've done this.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Super Sonics is not one. That's not pluralized. Cannot be that. You've done this, Casey. You know it already? No, I've done it for college football because they, that with college football, but I don't know if I've ever done it for the, I know I haven't because right now I'm feeling I'm still so stuck in my breakup that my brain
Starting point is 01:01:50 is short-circuited. He wouldn't know them all. I'm first. Utah mammoth. Yes. Like this is why I don't even know. Should be easy to jump off what I just gave you. The jazz.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Ooh. Good. Good. Good. Good. Thank you. Tampa Bay Lightning. Yes, correct. There we go. I feel this is like, I feel quite literally stupid. No, no, no. Just go with him. Tampa Bay Lightning.
Starting point is 01:02:27 What follows lightning? Thunder. The Oklahoma City Thunder. There we go. Look at us. We're moving along. Miami Heat. Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:39 What did you say, Casey? The Boston Red Sox. That's correct. Okay. So we got six. Chicago White Sox. There we go. This is bad.
Starting point is 01:03:02 What are we at? We're at seven. We have like seven? Seven. So I think we got, what, four left? like going down all the coasts do you know another one will I'm actually stuck for a minute
Starting point is 01:03:20 I'm thinking I'm thinking that's what I'm saying like huh this is gosh silence is always good I mean this helps I mean this one team is still in the NHL playoffs one of them
Starting point is 01:03:42 Carolina they're the hurricanes plural um Canadians plural, avalanche, Colorado avalanche. There you go. So we have four more? Three more.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Three. No NFL teams, guys? I'm like my whole brand, I feel like I've gone through the entire NFL. You want to hear something, Casey? Yeah. There are no NFL teams. Yeah, I'm about to say, there's no way there's any NFL team. That was a head fake.
Starting point is 01:04:23 That was a head fake. That's right. I went through all, like, all teams, and I was like, okay, there's none. Can you give us a hint on what sports they're left? Yeah, you got two NHL teams and one basketball team. Hmm. I mean, Will, you should be familiar with this one, considering they knocked your team out of the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Oh, the Minnesota Wilde? Yep. Basketball that we've missed? Yeah, they're in the same state as another one of the teams that we talked about. Oh, Orlando Magic. Magic. Get. And Jeff Bezos is in the news.
Starting point is 01:05:15 And I think he's the owner of this team. Bezos? What's he on? The hockey team? Yeah. Think about where is Amazon? Oh, Seattle Crackin. Crack-a-Lackin.
Starting point is 01:05:33 There we go. I think I came up with a lot. Does he on the Crackin? I didn't know that. Yeah, pretty sure. They did a whole thing about like climate pledge arena and, you know, anyway I think you did you did you got four Casey you did much better than I thought you would or you thought you would I thought you'd do much better better so I think it's good three three of them I
Starting point is 01:05:54 but I like I said my I'm still so I'm method acting right now I'm very upset about my breakup so you're not over it I wasn't right sale if Will was a good friend he would know that it was not the time to put me on the spot and have me be intellectual he should know that know that I need some time to process that this man doesn't love me anymore. You should be getting some Rocky Road right now. Never did. I believe he never did. No, actually, that question with college football is a fun one to do.
Starting point is 01:06:30 People always forget the green wave. What other ones? There any else on top of your head? Cardinal, Stanford. Stanford Cardinal. I think there's like five. Tulsa Golden Hurricane. The mean green, right?
Starting point is 01:06:50 North Texas. Uh-huh. Yeah, North Texas. The problem with college football is it's so big, like you said, like North Texas. Like you can't go, it's a pool of a hundred-something plus teams versus. Yeah. Yeah. So there's more than, I think maybe there's five, I don't know, regardless.
Starting point is 01:07:08 I've had that question, but I didn't realize there was 11. No NFL teams. That threw me. for a loop because I went through every single NFL team in my brain or I thought and then I felt I told a story in my head. All right, Patrick, give us one more. You want an undercler? I know.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Okay. You failed. So there are. I already got it. Okay. 15 franchises across the big four sports that don't use city monikers. So like you think Atlanta Braves or Dallas Mavericks, they use regional and multistated states I'll nail this.
Starting point is 01:07:46 I think I'm going to do great at this. What are those 15? And there are NFL teams. You want to go, Casey? New England Patriots. They're all what? Nailed it. There are some NFL teams.
Starting point is 01:07:56 So, just saying. Oh, awesome. Okay, Golden State Warriors. Yep. The Minnesota Timberwolves. Yep. The Minnesota Twins. Correct.
Starting point is 01:08:09 The Arizona Diamondbacks. The Minnesota Wild. the Arizona Cardinals Hmm The Utah Jazz Okay Did we do Did I say
Starting point is 01:08:29 No the North Carolina Panthers We already said one of them We did What It's the Carolina Panthers But that ought to be on there Yeah
Starting point is 01:08:46 But like that would But North Yeah Carolina Panthers Utah Mammoth Uh huh Yep
Starting point is 01:08:54 Uh huh Uh huh Uh huh I almost said Washington Redskins, which is a problem all in it of itself. Does it count? Does it count? Does like the New York Yankees count? No. No. No. Technically, New York, New York. Are you, are we, are, what are we up to? Well, that's the thing is, uh, I lost track. I'm not stumped. She's stumped. I'm waiting on her.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Everybody's trying to help me. I said the Panthers. I said the Panthers. Which one? Oh, I didn't. Carolina. And then I said Utah Mammoth, and now it's your turn, which you can just take the layup if you want. The Utah Jazz? Did I say that right? I think we already said that. I don't think we did. I think we said that one in the first one. I think that we did then the last one, right? Yeah. I did. Florida Panthers. There you go. I said, and I was going to say Florida Gators, because again, my college football brain is in there.
Starting point is 01:10:08 This is, I don't like this game. You're not stuck. I don't like it at all. Do what? All right, I'll give you some hints. Where are you from, Casey? You want some hints? Where are you from?
Starting point is 01:10:18 Yeah, Casey. You cultural sell out. The Texas Rangers. Right. Who literally play in Arlington. This, I'm telling you, when I'm put on the. spot, it's not good. What are we up to, Patrick?
Starting point is 01:10:37 It can't be worse than Mitsy. We got to be close. Yeah, you're locking in. You're, what, seven left? Six left. No, we said more than eight. Did you? There was one that was not on here.
Starting point is 01:10:54 There's three in Minnesota we got. Two in Utah we got. Two in Arizona we got. Florida, Carolina, Texas. That's 10 right there. Got the Patriots? Wild? Patriots 11.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Yeah, I got the wild already. We got that one. We got a bad moderator. Okay. We got Carolina. We're not getting credit for everything we said. Yeah, I already counted that. We're at 11.
Starting point is 01:11:18 I told you I lost it. Anyway, I think you got four left. Thank you, Patrick. 15 minus 11. You able to do that? Well, technically is 16 because you got one day I did not get, so. There's no more NFL teams, right? No, they're out.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Yeah. NBA, let me think about that for a minute. I mean, technically their city is in the news. Golden State Warriors? Golden State Warriors? Did we say that already? That was my first one. I don't remember you. I'm having it. I need more coffee, apparently. Let me think about, I mean, one of these teams we had in the last one, but still playing. And their playoff. Tennessee Titans.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Ooh, good one. So there was an NFL team left. Well, you got two that AI didn't get. I'm telling you, we've got a real bad moderator here. Listen, I try to throw this thing together last minute. AI is only so good. I've gotten two that AI didn't get, you're telling me? Yes, you got two that AI did not have.
Starting point is 01:12:43 So we still have four to go? Yeah, you have a... New Jersey Devils. Okay, three. What the hell? That one wasn't on there? That's three that I didn't get, so I still have four more to go.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Yeah, and I already shamed... So a state known for weed is for a few of them. The Denver Broncos. Colorado Avalanche. City... And the Colorado Rockies. Yeah. Denver is just the...
Starting point is 01:13:16 And the Rocky, so... Yeah, two more. So we're down to two. Two. One is still in their playoff. The other one is, I don't even know. I mean, their cities, well, I don't know. Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Those big wheeled cars to go really fast. It's not the NBA playoffs. So it's got to be NHL playoffs. That's Colorado. Yeah. It's Colorado versus Vegas nights, and it's, oh, Carolina Hurricanes. So we're down to one. This is just, I'm just going to drink my coffee.
Starting point is 01:13:58 What happened in Carolina? Why did they decide that they should name both their NFL and NHL teams, Carolina? Like, did they decide that North Carolina, South Carolina had too many people? Like, the population of Columbia was too big to ostracize, so they had to, like, include South Carolina, instead of just calling them the North Carolina Hurricanes or the North Carolina Panthers, they said, no, we're going to be Carolina because we don't want to lose the South Carolina market. Or maybe North Carolina Panthers doesn't sound as cool as just Carolina Panthers. Because North Carolina Panthers doesn't, like, it just doesn't roll off the-
Starting point is 01:14:34 South Carolina is a small state, Patrick. It's not a huge market to draw from. It couldn't have been a business decision. It's not a small state population-wise. They were trying to take over the- region for both of them. So like, because they both came, so Hartford moved to to Raleigh around the same time that the Panthers came into the NFL. And so I think they were just kind of like going together to try to take that region, the Carolina region in general. And did you know that the Panthers logo is the only one to be shaped like their area? Yeah, their state. Well, shaped like South Carolina?
Starting point is 01:15:13 North and South Carolina I saw that on Really? Oh. Because my first thought was the What is the last logo is kind of But
Starting point is 01:15:23 Indiana Pacers Give me a hint on the Oh yeah The Pacers Oh What All right Well it's pretty fun
Starting point is 01:15:33 Well we've lived up to it We've lived up to a show This is a show about This is our Seinfeld Friday episode A show about absolutely nothing and yet somehow felt cathartically productive. We got to act. We got to, I mean, listen, if you want to keep this acting thing up, who knows, maybe they'll
Starting point is 01:15:55 Scorsesey's going to call and be like, we got to get these two at a movie. We laughed, we cried. It's a full show. Right? We drank a bucket of coffee. You laugh, you cried. We had technical problems. We did a little.
Starting point is 01:16:12 psychoanalysis personally and societally. What a show. What a show. Casey, thank you so much. I know they called you at the last moment. Two of days, Dan, has, he's out sick. We hope he feels better. We always love having you on the show, Casey. You can make it regular
Starting point is 01:16:27 as far as I'm concerned. Thank you for doing this. I would love that anytime, guys. Thank you. All right, Casey Smith, Barstool. That's going to do it for us today. We appreciate you listening and watching. Make sure you follow us on Spotify app, but you'll catch it every Friday on YouTube and Facebook. see again next time. Listen ad free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcasts and Amazon Prime
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