Will Cain Country - Will Call: How To Deal With Cheaters And Flat Earthers
Episode Date: January 16, 2026On this Friday edition of Will Cain Country, Will and The Crew debut “Will Call,” where Will gives unfiltered advice on everything from dating a flat-earther to family betrayal and Gen Z motivati...on. Plus, they have a heated debate over which NBA era was best (and why is Dirk Nowitzki never included?) and a wild claim by attempted Reagan assassin John Hinckley to round out a chaotic episode. If you want Will's advice in the next "Will Call," email willcainshow@fox.com Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: Watch Will Cain Country! Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (@willcainshow), Instagram (@willcainshow), TikTok (@willcainshow), and Facebook (@willcainnews) Follow Will on X: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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What you should do if your boyfriend cheats on you with your sister.
And much more on this episode of Wilcane Country.
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Ladies and gentlemen, sit.
What's going on?
Have a good Friday morning.
I want to have time after the show for plenty of bumper pool.
The crew was just mad at me.
Like, go do your show so we can play.
Wow.
Savage.
So I need a little more time between the two shows.
But I also need time for breakfast on a Friday.
I agree.
Friday's got to be different than the other work days.
Do we all agree?
You're not off.
You're not mailing it in.
It's not a Saturday.
But it shouldn't feel like a Wednesday.
Is that fair?
Yeah, I get myself a breakfast sandwich every Friday morning.
That's it.
That's the difference for me.
Yeah, a little treat.
Quit looking over the top of your glasses, Patrick, like every day's a Monday to you.
I know that's what you want to say.
Even Saturdays are Mondays.
I need to start digging.
What do you do differently on a Friday, Will?
Breakfast.
You go somewhere or you like make it?
Thursday.
No, go somewhere.
Okay.
I have coffee.
I guess what, fellas, I'm a Starbucks guy now.
I have coffee.
What?
Monday through Thursday at a Starbucks.
Yeah.
To New York and you's coming out.
Chat with my friend.
Yep, I have never been a Starbucks guy.
Now I know my drink.
I know what I want to do when I've,
vary it up. Do you wear a tote bag when you go in there?
Yeah. You get a frappuccino? You want to know what I get? We're ugs.
Nitro with vanilla foam protein, vanilla protein foam. You know. You know what the night,
you know what nitro is? Yeah. This is one that pour out of a tap. Yeah. It's cold brew.
Yeah, but it's not cold because I don't want it on ice. So I'm in this stage where the hot coffee,
I like hot coffee, but a Starbucks hot coffee is a lot.
Like, it's so hot and it nurses for too long.
And cold, it's January.
I don't want to, I don't want ice coffee.
No, no, I'm not saying cold.
Basically room temperature.
I'm saying cold brew.
Cold brew is the way you brew it.
So like there's like, there's like, there are different ways to brew coffee.
Sorry, Mr. Coffee.
I don't even drink coffee.
I may drink some decaps sometimes.
But like, like Stoke is a very popular cold brew brand.
It's just like the way you kind of let the beans sit in the coal, like a refrigerator or something.
Why the change to Starbucks will?
Sounds like you're more Starbucks than me.
Why what?
Logo.
Why did you change the Starbucks?
Convenience.
Convenience.
And I will tell you now.
Makes a big difference.
What?
Convenience?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's right there.
It's next to the gym.
Go to the gym, walk out of the gym, go sit in Starbucks.
Starbucks is on the rehabilitation program.
Starbucks has got a new CEO, and it's a totally different experience, and he is doing good things.
I don't know, because, you know, in our business, we get our emails, and I don't know how much the woke stuff, but I have a feeling it's on its way out.
I really do.
There was a story this week where somebody had drawn a pig on a Starbucks cup for an ice officer.
You'll see that?
Yeah.
And that employee was fired.
I feel like those stories, which used to be fairly common, are going to be fading into the background for Starbucks.
Because they're prioritizing.
They're changing the menu up.
It's different.
But customer service, man, it's really good.
Starbucks had gotten full on into, you know, purple hair and sleeves and your coffee served with the side of animus.
Yeah, but it's not that.
Now it's like, hey, welcome in, and everybody's talking to you and everybody makes eye contact.
That's probably a turnoff for you, Patrick.
And...
It's like, I'm out of here.
They check in with you.
You know, it's nice.
It's a good experience.
Are we rolling?
Because the whole, like, blue hair thing seemed...
They were trying to make it seem like it's this, like, you know, mom and pop coffee shop, but a corporate one?
Does it feel too corporate now?
We're always rolling.
No, I think they're moving more towards cheers.
Now, this is my local Starbucks, but it's, you walk in a little bit,
so they scream your name in?
Will!
It's close.
It's close.
How's things?
Here's your nitro, girly, vanilla protein crap.
Is that girly?
Is it nitro?
Vanilla.
Anything is girly.
I think pumpkin spices is girly.
Flavored anything with coffee in the morning is not very manly, I would say.
My two favorite artificial flavors are vanilla and banana.
Third is blue.
Surprising.
So, you know, like, you know, if you get a snow cone, I don't even need to put a flavor to it, just blue.
So, you know, when you get a snow cone or a monster energy drink, you do not.
No, I knew you, I saw you nodding exactly.
Yes.
Like when you're a kid, I didn't want the red snow cone.
I don't, meaning no cherry, no strawberry.
What's the blue bottle?
And the blue bottle could have been blue raspberry.
It could have been coconut, but sometimes coconut is clear.
It's white.
What else comes in blue?
But whatever blue was, that's where I was headed on, on as a kid.
And to this day, like, the blue Gatorade is calling my name a little bit, much more than the red or orange.
orange Gatorade.
And I don't, that's obviously not a flavor.
But when you're talking about like added flavors for me, it's vanilla, banana, and
blue.
It is a flavor.
It's very much a flavor.
Like when you drink Gatorade.
It's like, I'm getting red.
Like you don't.
Well, yellow's lemon lime, but it doesn't taste like lemon lime.
The problem with that one is like, we, we usually drink that like when you have a stomach
bug.
What's your, like, I've equated it with like illness.
What's your guys like guilty pleasure?
I never called a yellow, Dan.
Really?
That was green.
Lemon line was green.
What?
Yeah.
It's yellow.
What's your guys like guilty pleasure drink?
To me, it's more green than yellow.
Guilty pleasure drink.
Oh, I know this, like, well.
Like alcohol-related?
It's Diet Dr. Pepper.
No, no alcohol.
Let's set that aside.
Diet Dr. Pepper.
And you're like, your guilty pleasure is diet Dr.
Dr. Pepper?
Well, I only drink Dr. Pepper is like the super guilty pleasure.
Like I love Dr. Pepper, but I can tell myself that Diet Dr. Pepper is a more frequent treat.
So that could appear twice a week.
Do you know what I mean?
I see.
So that's it, Diet Dr. Pepper.
Patrick?
I don't drink a lot of caffeine, so like, you know, it's like a nice fountain cherry Coke.
Or like a chocolate milk?
Well, I make adult chocolate milks with Kaluah, but we're not talking about alcohol or beverages.
So that's what I was kind of talking about.
Like a girly fruit fruit.
And that's a white Russian?
That's a white Russian, right?
I thought it was black Russian because I didn't have vodka.
Well, white Russian is vodka, milk, and Kalua.
So you're just doing the Kalua in the milk alone?
No vodka?
Yeah, just Kalua and milk, yeah.
Oh.
Is this content?
Are we on air?
Are we rolling right now, Dan?
We are.
We've been.
We've done Ben rolling.
Since you rolled in.
Talking about how you want to get this over with so you can play pool.
Okay
What's your guilty pleasure, Dan?
Mine would actually be hot chocolate.
I just like having a hot chocolate every once in a while.
Even in the summer.
I don't know why.
It's just good.
Not all the time.
Little marshmallows.
I'm glad you reminded me of a white Russian.
I haven't had one of those in a while.
That's a good word drink.
I'm getting a...
Give me a Caucasian.
All right.
All right.
This is a Friday edition,
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Will Kane Country. And as is the course, we're going to roll in cold or hot, talk about
whatever we're talking about. But the boys, Two A Days Dan and Tenfoil Pat, are going to guide me
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So anyway, we pulled some from Reddit, the advice Reddit, and we got some pretty good ones.
So here's one about a woman who found out her boyfriend was into flat earth.
So we're going to put that up on the screen in a second.
She said, just realized my boyfriend I've been dating for two years might be a flat earther.
I don't even know how to start this.
I'm pretty shocked at the conversation I just had.
My boyfriend has been sending me real showing a theory where the earth is encapsulated in an ice wall
and is a tiny part of a greater earth than land that we don't have access to.
He also informed me that the earth does not rotate and the sun is actually revolving around us.
I've known him for two years and he sometimes has brought up conspiracies but not anything like this.
I have a science degree and tried to explain to him gravitational poles, but he said that's what they want us to believe.
I feel like I'm being punked.
How have I gone this long without knowing this crazy belief he has?
This has to be a deal breaker, right?
What say you, Will?
I can't believe either.
I don't believe this, mostly.
I don't believe this is a real, sincere problem that somebody is posting about.
Because I don't think you can go two years with that type of conspiracy-mindedness in the closet.
Yeah, I agree.
Somebody who believes that the world is flat and the waters are being held in by an ice wall.
But yet on the other side of the wall is like in Game of Thrones, the Wildling.
in a world that we have not yet fully explored.
Exactly.
And potential white walkers.
That kind of crazy doesn't keep itself in a sealed container.
It's not hermetically sealed onto one issue.
So there's no way if he truly believes all that.
He could just, a couple of options.
This is fake.
It's not real.
Number two, he is punking her.
He is having fun.
He is provoking her.
he believes this kind of stuff actually like 15, 20%, but he's playing it to 100 just to provoke her.
Come on, you know that.
I could see you doing that.
Or number three, it's a deal breaker.
If it's sincere and against all odds he kept this basically undetectable for two years, then it's a deal breaker.
Because that kind of thinking does not keep itself hermetically sealed onto one issue for a lifetime.
And he will be talking about other things as you're together.
And I don't know what those other things may be.
But the world is his oyster.
I mean, as long as he thinks we're being held in by ice walls and only the brave venture beyond the wall, he could really go anywhere.
He's a hell of a long, a fun ride.
Like, you don't know where he's going to take you.
You can go beyond the ice wall, Will.
That's the friend you see once in a while, by the way.
The governments won't let you near Antarctica to go beyond the ice wall.
Right.
They'll stop.
What about like the...
Which government, though?
What about like the Arctic explorers?
Like, I forget who's South Pole and who's North Pole, but endurance, what's his name?
And endurance.
What about, you know, they went to the South Pole.
Elon Musk would know, right?
And I feel like he would be involved.
Edmondson, is Edmondson North Pole?
I think that was South Pole.
Poll, too, allegedly.
Do you guys...
Allegedly, he said.
Do you guys have friends that are like...
Shackleford.
Do you guys have friends that are like this, or you found out you had a friend
that actually believed something insane?
Because I have...
I am that friend.
I know you are, but...
I have a couple of friends for sure that believe we did not go to the moon.
Really?
But that's the thing.
How old are they?
They let me know that in the first couple of months.
they might have let me know that in the first three times we hung out.
Really?
That's my point.
They don't keep that under their hat.
That's not two years in the hiding.
My wife did not know what she was going to be into.
Three years into it.
You lied?
You held it.
I didn't lie.
I just, you know, kept it kind of, I just didn't know.
I mean, I was a little younger then, but, you know, it kind of was one of those things
where it's just like you kind of start to realize things.
And she's like, I did not know I signed up for this.
Like this question in the Reddit, that's a big red flag because not just because they believe the earth is flat, but that you couldn't know something like that for that long.
And then you find out something and you just think of that person so differently after that.
So it just changes your whole perception of them.
Patrick, what does your wife think of you?
If you sprung a lot of this on her and she didn't know what she was getting into, what does she do when you start going on and on about whatever?
She's been coming around.
So, I mean, like, it's been 20 years now.
You mean brainwashing?
You just, it's just a slow, you slowly chip away like water on rock.
And then you have a canyon.
She's like, okay, fine, Patrick.
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and you guys are going to talk about what we want to talk about,
when we want to talk about it.
And Dan just sent this to us just moments ago.
And this really fires me up.
I get really upset.
I see these memes all the time,
which era wins?
and it classifies NBA players into Gen Z, Millennials, Gen X, Baby Boomers, and Silent Generation.
Okay, and it gives you the starting lineup for each.
So, for example, right now, presumably we're in Gen Z.
The starting lineup is Wembe, Anthony Edwards, Luca, Shea Gildes Alexander, and Jason Tatum.
And then millennials, that's Curry, LeBron, Kevin Durant, Yokic, Hardin.
All right, and then it goes all the way back to the Silent Generation and Baby Boomers,
where you'd find Michael Jordan and Hakeem Lajuan and Magic and Barkley and Bird.
But the one that always makes me mad, and it literally does make me mad, is Gen X.
Here's their starting lineup, and I see this all the time, and I see it in rankings,
like top 20 NBA players of all time.
Look at Patrick giggling.
Gen X.
Kobe, Tim Duncan, Shaq, Alan Iverson, and KG, Kevin Garnett.
I get so mad.
Dirk.
Dirk.
Dirk, Dirk!
An entire, he changed the game of basketball.
I've seen all the smoke podcast having guests talk about this.
What is the greatest NBA finals run of all time?
And these are NBA players answering it.
And I think it was, who is it saying it?
Al Harrington, maybe, that it's Dirk.
In 2011, he went through, and I can't remember it all, but it was Kobe and the defendant,
champion Lakers.
I think it was Steve Nash, Sean Marion, Amari Stottemeyer's sons.
Was it the Spurs as well that he went through with Duncan?
And then he beats LeBron, D. Wade, and Chris Bosch in the finals.
To take down those franchises in the middle of their runs is the greatest run of all time.
Also, he reinvented the game of basketball by putting the seven-footer beyond the arc.
And I can be specific.
Who are you replacing with Dirk?
I'm replacing Garnett.
I'm not saying Garnett's not great.
He's great.
Dirk is better.
Did Garnett play better defense?
Absolutely.
Was Dirk's offense that much better to compensate for the lack in defense?
The answer is yes.
And every time they met in the playoffs, Dirk won.
The Mavericks and Wolves met in the playoffs almost every year during that run.
First round.
and Dirk won every time.
Garnett got his championship when he went to the Celtics
and joined a super team with Pierce and Ray Allen.
Dirk did it with Jason Terry and an old Jason kid.
It is Dirk over Kevin Garnett, and it makes me mad.
I was asking, Dan, what era are we playing in?
Because, like, are we playing with today's rules?
We're playing, you know, 80s and 90s,
where it's a little bit rougher?
Because, I mean, you don't think Garnett,
probably.
No, I think you have to play the rules of the time that they played, don't you?
Like, I'll give you, like, you put some Ed in the 90s.
Yeah.
Throw them in their own era.
Yeah, probably.
Right, because some of these guys, like, well, I don't know.
Could SGA work in the 90s when everybody's hand-checking you and super physical?
He's super fast, so maybe the answer is yes, but I don't know.
Garnett and Novitsky had a pretty comparable career looking at the stats at to head.
Yeah, and I mean, but everything I just laid out.
Yeah.
And if you ever look at top 20 rankings, Dirk usually comes in about like 15, 16, 17, 17.
So where's the-Gernet comes in like at 10, 11, 12?
Where's the edge?
For Dirk, in your mind?
I just laid it all out.
I just did it.
I just did the content.
I still think Garnett.
But, all right, going back to this question, though, which era are you picking?
Oh, which era wins?
Dirkless Gen X.
I mean, you just kind of have to say baby boomers.
They'll cut you.
Jordan and Bird together?
Like, give me a break.
And Barclay and Magic and Hakeem.
I don't see how you lose.
I think I'm with you, Dan.
By the way, let's not forget the Silent Generation.
Can we name them all by faces?
It's Lou Alcindor, Jerry West.
Is that Elgin Baylor?
Yeah.
Will Chamberlain.
Is that Moses Malone?
Who's the one on the far left?
I think so.
I'm not even sure.
That's so.
I'm taking baby boomers, man.
I think Shaq is going to give Hakeem some problems down low,
but I think Hakeem's going to give Shack real problems on offense.
And I think Hakeem can play some defense if Shack's not right there at the rim, right?
If Shack's not right at the rim, Hakeem's playing good defense.
Hold on.
Didn't he beat him in the finals?
Yeah, he was super young, right?
He was super young.
Like his first or second year, Shack's first or second year.
I'll tell you, I think the second best team is the millennials.
I think that Steph is.
is a force to be reckoned with.
Top five player of all time.
LeBron is LeBron.
KD is KD.
And then I think that one of the most underrated players at this point,
I mean, it's the white guy defense minute on the Will Kane country,
but it's Yokic.
Like, Yokic has to be in the conversation for a top five player of all time at some point here.
And he won't because he's tubby and he's white and he's foreign and all of those things.
But Yokic is incredible.
he's the best player right now in the NBA.
Whatever.
Yokic?
Yeah.
I mean, Cooper flag made him look pretty bad though the other night.
Give Wimby a few years to see how unstoppable he becomes, right?
But I think the finals is Millennials versus Baby Boomers.
Yeah.
And I'll take baby boomers.
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All right.
What else you got, Patrick?
All right.
So this woman is now making more than her husband, but there are some issues.
And so she says, I recently got a raise and will be making $175,000 a year.
When I got home from work, I shared this with my husband.
He could barely utter congratulations.
That was it.
No, out of boy, proud of you, et cetera.
I am hurt that he can't set aside his ego to be proud of me
and that he puts his own feelings first.
My job allowed him to retire at age 54.
Am I expecting him too much from him?
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Put that back up because there's details.
Hold on, before you put it up, Dan.
I'm going to give you my first take,
and then I want to go back to the details.
My first take is,
husband, you have to swallow your pride.
You have to congratulate her.
you have to genuinely find it within yourself why you're happy for your life partner in this moment.
You have to.
Like, that is the manly thing to do.
Yeah.
The manly thing to do is not to be insolent and insecure.
However, on the flip side, I think the wife has to be understanding, too, because there are some gender roles that do play in.
And on the whole and on the average, you need to understand that is going to be a negative effect on his psyche to make less than her.
good on him and it's for overcoming it but if he can't overcome it you know you do give him not a pass
you're not giving him a pass you're not excusing his behavior but you're understanding a little bit
where that's coming from okay but it is on him to to swallow his pride and be happy for his life
partner now put it back up dan because there's other details um his his ego
My job allowed him to retire at age 54.
Am I expecting too much from him?
So wait a minute.
He's retired?
I know.
So it's not like he's making one thing and she's making the other.
And they're like in their 20s and 30s.
Like the analysis I just gave is for a young man whose wife is making more money than him, basically, right?
Now we're in a situation where he's retired.
So he's making nothing.
so it doesn't matter what she's making
or is this about them when they were younger
this happened and now he's retired
she's looking back on it
is that what
is that a possibility
no I think it's I think it's a recent
thing
she's looking for advice
I just don't know how you retire on
he should be nothing
yeah 175
what state are they in
like what are you retiring
sure
oh yeah yeah maybe he's a cop or a firefighter
and he's got a good pinch
And he, I mean, cops and firefighters can reach retirement around that age.
Right.
That's true.
And he's got a pension that's built up or military that he served for 20.
And he's in that situation.
So it could be in that.
But she said her salary allowed him to retire, not his pension allowed him to retire.
So now this dude totally has to swallow his ego.
Like, yeah, she has a right to be upset with him.
100%
Yeah I mean
Go get a job as a bartender somewhere and make yourself feel useful
I I mean I
I don't mind my wife making more than me
I thought I would more at first
But like when we first started dating
Obviously you don't know how much they make
And then we you know we start getting serious and move in
And she tells me I'm like oh crap
And I thought it would affect me a little more
But it's I'm totally proud of her
It's great
Do you guys treat your money?
Or lose the baby boomers and the basketball thing.
Because Jordan would not have been happy.
That's fair.
Yeah.
I mean, that's accurate.
Do you guys what?
I think when it comes in the door, also, I think that a mistake a lot of people make is keeping finances separate.
Like, I made this so it's mine and I'm spending it even though we're together.
We're just starting to like once it comes in.
Put it together.
Yeah.
commingle.
Because we just got married a year ago.
Once it comes in the door, it's over.
It's everybody's.
That's how I feel.
The biggest problem is if someone starts acting like, well, I should be able to buy this because I make more.
That's when it becomes a problem.
You know what I mean?
When it's like...
Well, here's another situation that you're probably figuring out, Dan.
I think this is a big one.
Who has what role in the family?
and in the house, right?
So I don't think it's fair if a woman doesn't work
that she begrudges a husband for not doing as much at home as she does
because you've divided responsibilities.
And his responsibility is to go out and bring home the bread, the bacon,
the hunting and the gathering.
And then her job is to make the home.
And it's not like that second job,
the one that he's not doing that she is,
responsibilities have to be split 50-50.
Like that's not a fair
divide of life.
Like do this and also this because I'm doing this?
Yeah, she can't really go like
you never take out the trash.
Right, right, right.
And he's like, you never go to work.
It's like...
Dude, imagine saying that to your wife.
You never do the dishes.
Yeah.
You never go to work.
Yeah. You never leave the house, well?
I think a happy marriage is one where everybody, almost intuitively, maybe it has to be explicit in the conversation, but divides their roles.
Do you say it, though?
You're both working like you, Dan.
Or does it just, you know it?
And it's not unhappy.
It's not an unhappy thing.
Like, for my wife, she believes it is her job in the home, you know?
When you're both working, that gets a little more difficult, right?
now you're having to split home as well.
Yeah, which will most likely happen for us.
All right, what else?
All right, so this woman has a problem with her sister who slept with her boyfriend.
Wow.
I'm 20 years old and in college.
I went on my boyfriend's phone and found messages that confirmed he's been sleeping with my sister.
The text showed plans to meet up, references to sex, and conversations that clearly crossed any boundary of loyalty.
The dates lined up with times he told me he was busier studying,
and with times my sister said she was elsewhere.
This wasn't a misunderstanding or flirting.
It was ongoing and intentional.
I found out by myself because either of them told me the truth.
Now I'm dealing with the fact that my boyfriend cheated on me with my sister.
Both of them lied to my face while continuing it,
and I don't know how to process the betrayal or what to do next,
but I know exactly what happened.
What did I do?
do, what did I do?
Okay, yeah. I don't, I don't know.
What did I do? What do? I don't know what to do.
Well, I don't even, okay, this one is not, first of all.
Simple answer.
This is not hard on some levels and hard on, on another level.
The boyfriend's over, over. Like, that's not hard.
It's not husband. He's done.
Boyfriend.
Immediately.
If he was husband, it's over too.
True.
Immediately.
The harder question is the sister.
Because that's not a relationship in life that you choose.
That's a relationship in life that is there.
And how do you get over that?
And I do think family is so important.
And I don't love hearing stories where people are estranged from their brothers or sisters, their parents, or whatever it may be.
This is going to cause an estrangement from the sister.
And it's on the sister to fix it.
It's, you know, I guess, you know, our religious beliefs compel us to forgive.
but I don't know that's a really tough one with the sister she has to seek forgiveness in my mind you know
here's the more interesting question when you first put this to me Patrick what if you found out
that your boyfriend before you were together was with your sister do you see what I'm saying
so it's not cheating but it happened before now you're in an interesting situation
and they didn't tell you about shady but okay
Shady but okay
The fact that they didn't tell you about it
Is the shady part
Yep
Right
Neither the sister nor the boyfriend goes
Hey that guy you're dating
I was with him once
But get over it
You know or hey I should tell you up front
I did date or hook up with your sister
Like that
Because if they don't tell you it's like
I don't
You know is it over
Like what are we doing here
It's different with guys and girls too
What about brothers?
I don't I've never had a brother
like if it's the same girl,
if your brother went out with the girl already.
I don't know, oh, man.
I think you could get over it.
I think you can get over all of that
if, if, if it's something that is up front.
Mostly.
Yeah.
Let's take a quick break, but continue this episode of Will Call
on Will King Country.
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We're still hanging out with you.
the Willisha and Will Call advice and questions from the audience.
All right.
Got any more, Patrick?
One more.
This is the last one.
Okay.
This is a guy who's cooked.
Loser asking for advice.
I'm 25 years old, still live with my mother, don't have a job.
I don't so much outside of stuff around the house or taking the dog for a walk a few times a week.
But those aren't really doing anything, you know.
I usually just sit around playing video games watching YouTube.
I'm a loser through and through and I think I'm tired of it.
And he goes on and he says a bunch of other stuff.
I'd like some genuine advice or motivation or something
because, man, I need a job.
I'm 25. My time is running out, you know?
Quite frankly, I'm a disappointment and I'm aware of that.
I just don't know what to do to turn my life around.
Please help me.
What do you say to people?
I mean, there are a lot of guys like this playing video games.
That's true.
Just kind of chilling.
not they're not really motivated teach yourself AI what do you do good job something something
I know that sounds simple just something it's not too late 25 is not too late but you're right
if you keep doing this it will be too late in a not too distant future I think the world will look at a
25 year old with not a lot on his resume and not a lot of accomplishments and still think he has the
ability to be a productive person that can contribute to my organization and contribute to my purpose.
But the way to get started is to get started. You have to stop the self-reflection. You have to
stop paralysis by analysis. You have to simply do something. I'm a big believer in that Admiral
William McCraven commencement address at the University of Texas where he said 10 lessons from
a Navy SEAL. If you guys have never seen it, go to YouTube. It's about a 15-minute
19 minute commencement address.
You should do it.
It's 10 lessons from Buds training,
learning to be a Navy SEAL,
but they're real lessons,
and he applies it to life.
And you've probably heard this before, Dan,
because I think he turned it into a book.
But the number one thing he said,
that he learned from military
and the way that it's treating the military,
the number one thing you do every day is make your bed.
Do I make my bed?
I don't.
Okay, so I'm not sitting here on any time.
type of, you know, mountain of holiness to preach down to others.
But I'm just telling you what he said.
But the point of making your bed is that you have done one thing.
You have done one thing to start your day.
And that one thing can and will snowball.
Your day will go from there.
And maybe you have a crap day.
Maybe it doesn't go well for you.
But at the end of the day, you will return to a made bed.
And a made bed is better than an unmade bed.
And I do believe that little act of productivity.
And I'm telling you this part from my life.
There have been times in my life when I have been paralysis by analysis.
I can remember a period in my life later than 25 where I thought about thinking about what I was going to do a lot.
Right.
I made lists.
I did all kinds of things, but none of it added up to actual real productivity.
And I've had, I feel like every phase of life.
And I do know that productivity leads to other productivity.
Like sitting around and analyzing and trying to get it perfect does not put you on a path to getting towards perfect.
You've got to build airplanes as they fly.
That's life.
I don't think you sit on the tarmac forever with the blueprints going, then this, then this and this.
You start building it while you're trying to take off.
And you figure out as you're flying how to change the instruments or how to change anything.
Because you know what?
If you crash, you crash, but you flew.
You're the right brothers.
You got off the ground.
And you know how to get off the ground again.
Okay?
That's how I believe you got to do life.
So that little thing for this 25-year-old could be anything productive.
Get a job doing anything, anything.
And you will feel different about yourself, better about yourself.
Your thoughts will become more productive, meaning you will, without even knowing it, put more of that analysis into action.
You'll move from an analysis to execution.
And you execute while you're doing things, not when you're thinking about doing things.
I'm telling you.
And I'm a big thinker.
Obviously, I sit back and I think and a grand scheme and this and that.
I'm not saying that's totally worthless, but you got to start doing.
So my advice to that, dude, is something.
Do something.
100%. I think I'm also a thinker.
So it's like very easy.
Do we slow clap now?
Very easy to get bogged down in that.
And that's really what it is.
It's like you're trying to chase perfection in a lot of ways.
And that perfection is really just fear of failing.
And it's like this guy's probably afraid to go out there and subject himself to something.
But like, you know, Rick Rubin, the famous producer.
said, you know, it might not be the dream version of whatever you do, but you can just go
execute and what you execute is the one you make, and that's a, that's good, better than
nothing.
It's better to have that, have that DIY punk rock attitude.
And small, take life by the balls, you know?
And small positive decisions snowball, like you said.
Yeah, exactly.
Yes.
And I do think people tell themselves specifically at around that age, I mean, look, if I'm
being real, I just did a podcast called the Intersections podcast.
If anybody's listening, you want to go hear me.
talked for an hour and a half about my journey, my life, my thoughts, on politics. They covered
everything. But I wrote, they talk about this. Like, one of the first things I did when I
moved to that ranch in Montana is I wrote a book. I wrote a novel, right? And they're like,
what's it about? And I'm like, well, you'll never know. Nobody will ever know. Nobody, I'm never
letting anybody read it because, to be honest, I'm embarrassed of it. I'm not embarrassed of having done it,
though. That's what I'm proud of. I'm proud that I actually wrote a book from start to finish.
I'm not proud of how it turned out, but who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who
cares, right? But they asked me what the book was about. Now you're getting into the embarrassing
parts, but it really was about, because I was 25, probably when I was writing this, dudes at a
quarter life crisis. Like, I do think there's kind of sort of a thing of a quarter life crisis.
And the reason there is a crisis is because there's too much pressure on the idea that you should
be living your passion and your dream. Do you see what I'm saying? Like, I don't want to take that job
because I want to be this other thing, this X, and so I can't do Y.
So I'm going for my dreams.
And I think that we've preached that in pop culture mentality a lot, like follow your passion or whatever it may be, live your self-fulfillment.
And so it puts you in a stationary period that we just talked about.
It puts you in that paralysis by analysis.
Because to be honest, a lot of people don't know.
I don't know at 18, certainly.
They don't know at 20-1.
They don't know at 25 that I want to.
be whatever it is that they want to be. And so you're stuck. You're like, how do I get started
on that path? And how do I know for sure it's going to lead to that? And you just can't. So
you should stop thinking about it in those terms. Stop thinking about perfection and dreams
and fulfillment and passion and start thinking about doing an execution. And again, build that
life on the fly. Build that airplane as you're taking off. All right.
Is that it for today? What else do we got, Patrick? Anything else?
I got a couple headlines. Maybe just one. I don't know.
But I think this is really funny.
So TMZ is reporting that you guys know John Hinkley,
the potential assassin of President Reagan back in the day.
Yeah.
He was obsessed with a certain woman, Jody Foster, right?
Well, he claims to TMZ that he turned Jody Foster lesbian.
he was the reason that she is a lesbian today.
Huh.
I've done that.
Because that turned her off of men?
Yeah, he claims that she was dating men before,
and then he tried to kill Reagan,
and then, you know, then a switch flipped.
I always invert it, so.
Well, I don't know why he's bragging about that.
I know.
There's like George Costanza out there that look at the,
there's a lot of
guys out there that look at the other team and go,
I can change her.
I'm the magic elixir.
I can change her.
I need a challenge.
You know, this is out there bragging.
I changed her the other way.
You're so repulsive that she just swore off men completely.
But to take this conversation almost full circle,
Patrick,
do you believe that John Hinkley
was in a CIA assassin program and created.
What was the name of it, Project Ultra?
Is it something like that?
MK.K. Ultra.
What's in the BORN?
Yeah, it was MK. Ultra.
Yeah.
To kill a mockingbird.
Here we go.
Yes.
Here we go.
Yes.
Now we're into the good stuff.
So was Hinkley actually like some CI developed assassin that went bad?
Like Jason Bourne, he broke?
And there are quite a few of them.
Yeah.
John was booth.
I remember off the top of my head.
It's been a few years since I really dealt into this.
But yeah, I definitely think he was one of them.
I think that Kuzinski, the Unabomber, was also one of them.
That's true.
I've heard that, actually.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Terribly smart guy.
I got to read more Unabomber.
Yeah.
Unabomber's fascinating.
Fascinating.
No, I'm serious about that.
I do.
Isn't this manifesto, like, 3,000 pages or something?
I mean, who's got the time?
I read some summaries.
That's a guy who got it done, okay?
I read summaries of it, and it was very interesting.
Would AI summarize the Unabombers manifesto?
Yeah.
It would?
Don't do it on a work computer, but yes.
He doesn't know how to log into his work stuff.
I mean, we're in the information business.
We should know.
We're in the being in the no business.
We should be able to know.
Be on some list.
I want to know.
Pete's going to call you.
he was saying.
You know?
Everybody thinks if you read it, you're into it.
All of a sudden, you're pro-unabomber.
Just because I informed myself on the unabomber.
I want to know what he was saying because, you know, the stuff that's filtering into me through, yeah, he was crazy and all these different things.
But, you know, crazy also in some ways that turned out to be right, right?
His projections of the future and what he saw coming down the line and all that, right?
to read Mao's little red book next or is it in English I don't read Chinese or Mandarin I don't know it seems very is it in English Dan?
Yeah probably um I once put my kid in Mandarin when I was a New York City yuppie that lasted six months and several thousand dollars
what was the thought process there four tonal language ask him today ask him today what he can say I speak more Chinese than he does well everyone said that like
Mandarin was the future.
Lao Hu.
So it's probably what it is.
Lao Hu, that means tiger.
Wow, you're really going to work for the embassy or what?
Thank you.
There's a song I used to be able to sing.
It was like one of those preschool things.
Oh, no.
Are we talking to a communist show or what's happening?
Just because you know Chinese?
Just because you know Mandarin.
Now you're a communist.
You're right.
That's racist.
The idea was that's where the future of business is.
Let's put my kid into this.
And that way he can go do business in China in the future.
You can dominate the world.
Little done.
Oh, yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
I was joking.
It was a very big wave back then.
Dang.
Very progressive of you.
Well, back then, I didn't consider it progressive.
I considered it world domination.
I considered you might speak a language of,
yeah, you might speak the language of, you know, a Titan in business.
Like, what's more valuable to you?
speaking French or Mandarin?
If you could pick right now and you could speak one or the other, which do you think is more valuable?
I took French, so the other.
And how, and what's that done for your life?
Literally nothing. I've never been to France in my life.
Yeah, Mandarin. Spanish is valuable. I think Spanish is valuable.
Speaking which.
I prefer, I wanted to learn German. I tried to learn German for a while, but then I started working on this show.
Last thing before we go, the Chinese thing, the population was very much.
very interesting that you sent the other day, Patrick.
Oh, yes. Yes.
How they might not actually be telling the truth about the population, which might do something
to the future.
Well, they lie about everything else.
They lie about their economy.
They lie about almost everything.
So I forgot that you sent this, Patrick.
You saying they're lying about the number of Chinamen?
This person said that.
This person claimed that it was like half of what they say it is.
but then you start to think about all of the foreign aid that we send around to the world
and and people are like so are there actually 8 billion people on the earth or are you know
maybe like half of how do we actually have half of that because of welfare fraud right essentially
foreign aid fraud are we counting are we counting the wildlings the ones outside the ice wall
no no that's a totally different oh no no
It's a different dimension.
That's utopia.
They don't need foreign aid.
All right.
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