Will Cain Country - Will RFK, Jr. & Tulsi Gabbard Get Confirmed? Plus, Is It Possible To Sue China For COVID?
Episode Date: February 4, 2025Story #1: Quick Takes with The Crew: Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett is tired of "White Males Tears" and NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and the NFL side with the DEI crazies. Plus, will President D...onald Trump get all of his remaining cabinet nominees and is New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy harboring an illegal immigrant? Story #2: Is it actually possible to bring a lawsuit against the nation of China for their role in the Covid-19 pandemic? A conversation with Missouri Attorney General, Andrew Bailey. Story #3: Will responds to the insane reaction of some Lefty sports fans over his appearance on the podcast of his old colleague, Ryen Russillo. Are these sports fans the norm? Or have the bros won out? Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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One, does Governor Phil Murphy have an illegal immigrant in the attic?
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fellas i got some uh feedback yesterday i'm doing a better job apparently i've improved nodding my head
current reviews of the 4 p.m hour on the fox news channel i'm doing a better job of nodding my head
right cutting that down but people suggest still that i say will cane show too much that i'm
narcissistic self-aggrandizing i guess you got to repeat something to make a point
yeah we have learned the value of repetition and simplicity
that was like one of the first lessons from Donald Trump
I just remember I remember back in like I guess it would be 16
I remember sitting at my cubicle at ESPN
and there's this guy and I'm not going to remember that maybe it was called
the art of persuasion or the art of rhetoric I can't remember
but he made these videos I thought was really good like analyzing the way
different people speak and why it's effective and why it's not
because like if it's hard to rewind now but if you
go back to 16, like Donald Trump was such a, like a preconception breaker on rhetoric.
You know what I mean?
Like half of us at the beginning were like, well, this doesn't make sense, you know,
like the way he talks, it's not going to work, but it did work.
And you had to recognize it at some point.
Like this, because it was different than every politician, truthfully, it's different
than every corporate CEO, it's different than everybody who's ever really arrived at high
levels of leadership and you start if you're a curious person at all you circle on how why and
i started watching these videos and that was one of the first things it was talked about first of all
the the way he speaks um see i don't want to make it seem derogatory but is the word like
elementary he doesn't speak he doesn't use big words he doesn't use complicated sentence structure
He doesn't use, you know, reaches and grabs to try to sound educated.
It's a sign of intelligence.
I'm going to.
What is?
Using simple phrases and descriptions to describe complex issues and things is a sign that you're smart and boil it down and actually know what you're talking about.
And using big words as a sign of BS.
Yeah?
You think so?
Sometimes.
Is using big words a sign of BS?
I think so.
sometimes people try to make themselves sound smarter
so they learn big words and
try to win arguments that way.
You think I do that too much? No, not
at all. You guys have
joked before that sometimes I use words, you're like
what is that word? Well, there's that one
phrase you love, and it turns out
Stephen A also uses it all the time, so I don't know
who used it first, but
in my estimation.
Yeah.
But I've noticed it's a lot of it. It sounds like a
legal term.
Well, it's not conversational.
Like, if you were at a barbecue and somebody goes, in my estimation, you'd be like,
that's what this dude, right?
What's what this dude?
So what am I doing there?
Thanks, Bob.
Why is that a crutch that I'm leaning back on?
When I was at CNN for five years, Van Jones said to me, he's no Van Jones, right?
I had a decent relationship with Van Jones, you know, he's a different guy.
Like, he's super liberal, obviously.
But I do remember conversations off air with Van where it's like there's a real open mind there and a curiosity in a way to understanding things.
Like I've seen clips of Van Jones recently saying pushing back on this whole idea that still they're holding on to that Trump is stupid.
He's like, you guys.
Yeah.
First of all, he's smarter than all of us.
Every one of us.
I don't know who he was talking to is a panel of other libs.
But like going look around like the proof is in the pudding.
He's smarter than all of us.
my point is van jones is like maybe he's like stephen a in that way like sometimes you're like
this guy's insane and doesn't get it and other times you're like oh this guy's curious and actually
gets it but he said to me that his dad had had said your job or like a good person doing this
or smart person doing this is not to make the simple complicated but to make the complicated
simple right and and that's what trump is doing when he talks that way and those
art of rhetoric or art of persuasion videos I used to watch when we were first
facing the revelation of Donald Trump was simple and repetitive
say it over and over and over again simple and repetitive and that's how it breaks
through I honestly seen Pete doing that I've seen Pete since he's become the Secretary of
Defense repeat because I see a lot of what Pete has to say but most people don't most
people don't see 10 clips of someone you know what I mean they see one of 10 of 10
and so there's a point in the repetition
so maybe there's some point
to me saying Will Kane show
this is where this all started right
like if you've seen me say it 10 times
I won you like you're with it
thank you
you've got to drill it into their heads
well I'm just imagining you finishing the show
at 5 p.m. and like watching like an hour
worth of Pete's clips on your phone
smiling well we carried Pete live
yesterday no I mean it was like
he's carried him from the border
He sounded very presential.
It was all like old school.
Off the border wall with Tom and Pete.
Yeah.
New segment.
You know, the presidential thing is interesting.
I've started to see, you know, more rumblings about that potentiality.
He's talking like it.
Who knows where it goes.
The Wall Street Journal has a real interesting article up this morning about the left
and how much in the wilderness the left is because they just elected a new leader of the DNC, right?
By the way, it came down to two white dudes, two middle-aged white dudes.
So way to go, Dems.
You really.
doing a good job with your self-fulfilling prophecies um but the article is about where do they go
not only do they not have a a person a leader they don't really have a coherent message
like they don't have who are we what do we stand for meanwhile on the right like you could say
jd vance pete hegseth i mean there's more i'm sure that you know marco rubio has bigger aspirations
would be my guess like do you think niki haley again she'll try no she'll try i've i know a lot of
republicans i liked her there's going to be 10% of republicans that are still antithetical to what
trump is that'll vote for niki haley which will give her the funding to run and she'll do it so she
could hear herself talk on a national stage she'll get 10% of delegates and then she'll
go off and do a bad podcast no i don't think niki haley i think like rubio's interesting in that
you know a senator being a united state senator is essentially a job for life right so one could argue
what's the point in going secretary of state after after senator and of course the answer is power
it's it's more power but um it's also a platform clearly isn't that Hillary's path
Hillary's path is Senator to Secretary of State
to presidential run
And I'm just saying that's what Rubio might have in mind
And of course I don't think you're probably done with Ron DeSantis on a national stage
I'm not I don't know about his prospects
But all of those are pretty deep
What's up two days?
I love talking in February of
The president just got inaugurated and we're talking about who's next
It's kind of like sports talk
It is sports talk it's like oh yeah my team's going to be great in four years
It's like talking about the, it's like the, 2028 draft.
It's not just.
Yeah, good point.
Because it's also about like the lay of the land today.
And we're going to get into this today because I think it's fascinating how much in the wilderness the left is.
And I don't think there's a full recognition of where the right is to either, by the way, because I do believe that no one's in the wilderness forever.
No governance is permanent.
No movement last into eternity.
Usually the way politics works is the side in power oversteps and therefore the pendulum swings back the other way.
the difference is most of the time that is painted as a pendulum swinging between two bipolar things republican democrat left right and i truly do believe this is a unique moment that doesn't represent that left right dynamic it doesn't today right now and we're going to get into this just a moment r fk is advancing to a vote on the senate floor for confirmation Tulsi gabbard will find out today on her confirmation hearings in
in her committee these are two democrats i mean for r fk what is that like a year ago a year ago
we was running for president as a democrat so don't like this i actually think the entire
political landscape is being reshuffled the only question only question is how does it last
beyond donald trump okay that's just sort of a um that's a sort of spitballing here off the top
with will boat we've got uh missouri attorney general andrew bailey joining us today um
and then you want to stick around i believe tin foil is it going to be tomorrow we have
former congressman ron paul here for a long extended interview on the will cane show so that'll be
tomorrow's episode we got a lot in the in the works right now we got a big episode today i already
seen the um rundown for 4 p.m on the fox news channel so let's not waste any more time let's get
into it with story number one.
Story number one today, we are going with quick takes.
We're going to hit a lot of things before we get into some deeper dives into China and COVID-19
with Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey.
And as we always do, in order to hit our quick takes, we're going to turn it over to
the most electric man outside of Bobby Marks on ESPN, the second most electric man in broadcasting.
Don tinfoil pat.
Take it away. That's right, Will.
RFK Jr., out of the committee.
He is going to the full Senate vote.
He won.
The vote was by party lines, 14 to 13, by the Senate Finance Committee, and he picked up Senator Cassidy.
Dan, played the clip.
Mr. Grassley.
Aye.
Mr. Grassley, aye.
Mr. Cornyn.
Aye.
Mr. Thune.
Aye.
Mr. Thune.
Aye.
Mr. Scott.
Aye.
Mr. Scott.
Aye.
Mr. Cassidy.
Aye.
Mr. Langford.
Aye.
Mr. Danford.
Aye.
Mr. Young?
Aye.
Mr. Brasso.
Aye.
Mr. Johnson.
Aye.
Mr. Tills.
Aye.
Mr.
Mr. Blackburn.
Aye.
Mr. Marshall.
Aye.
Mr. Wyden?
No.
Mr. Cantwell?
No.
Mr. Bennett?
No.
Mr. Warner?
No.
Mr. Whitehouse?
No.
Ms. Henson?
No. Ms. Kortez.
Ms. Cortez, Mastow, no, Ms. Warren.
No.
Mr. Sanders.
No.
Mr. Sanders, no.
Ms. Smith, no.
Mr. Lujan.
No.
Mr. Loonan, no.
Mr. Warnock, no. Mr. Walsh.
No. Mr. Welch, no.
Mr. Welch, no. Mr. Chairman, no. Mr. Chairman, the final tell he is, 14 eyes, 13 A's.
Are you surprised, Will?
Are you surprised on his phone?
Yeah.
So, lots to read into there.
Well, yeah, let's read into a couple really quickly.
So I'll tell you who I think this is a moment of exposure for Bernie Sanders, first of all.
I think it really puts Bernie Sanders in a position of honestly like exposing himself as a fraud.
I really do.
Like Bernie Sanders has been this populist revolutionary, or at least that's what he's painted himself as and much of his audience has believed him to be.
this isn't Bernie Sanders being asked
to affirm Pete Hegseth as Secretary of Defense
this is Bernie Sanders having a chance
to put RFK as head of HHS
and I
Bernie wants to be a man of the people
Bernie wants to be skeptical of big corporations
I would presume big pharma
you know
and here is Bernie
he's just all he is
I used to joke this with Hegseth
you know we want to do this story
we want to do that story
we're pushing back on the man i was like dude all we are we're the sheep's that bleat we're still
sheep being led to the slaughter we just bleat on our way to the slaughter you know uh i think i've been
proven wrong about that but that's what bernie is bernny's one of the team he can he can bleat all
he wants about he believes in this principle or that principle he's just a team guy that's all he is
and he's and and he's not a particularly good team guy in that respect and he's been
burned by the team but in the end he's just a democrat nothing more nothing less the other one is
sheldon white house on the left because have you guys read the stories like didn't white house what was he
roommates with rfk or like his his relative was roommates with rfk like this whole grandstanding
that white house had done during the committee hearings like pretending like he didn't know r fk and
all these revelations that he thinks are controversial about rfk he's been buddies with him his whole life
Like, they have been together for like 30 years ideologically on every issue.
And here's White House voting against him.
So I know you're looking that up two days.
Yeah, it says RFK shamed by law school pal at Senate hearing.
Yeah, law school pal, Sheldon White House.
Okay, so that's the left, the Democratic.
Here's what's interesting about the votes you heard on the right.
So here's the ones that you wondered about.
Okay, we'll start with Tillis and Todd Young.
Tom Tillis of North Carolina, Todd Young of Indiana.
Young was called out by Elon Musk, if y'all remember that,
because he asked tough questions of RFK.
And then Elon Musk goes to X and says, like,
I think he called him, I don't know if he called him Deep State or Establishment or whatever he called him.
Pence.
Lacky.
Yeah.
And so then apparently they hopped on the phone together and Elon got back on X and apologized.
Don't see that often from Elon, right?
he apologized and said I was wrong about Young.
We're presuming that that conversation was something like,
hey, man, I just asked tough questions,
but it's not like, I'm against this.
Todd Young looked really defeated.
So it's kind of you, right?
He's like, hope.
What's huge, tinfoil?
No, I said it's kind of like you, right?
People go, why is he talking about Ronda Santis's boots?
It's like, you know, we're asking the tough questions.
Like, I do think we're a little bit too far into the age.
If you're not waving pom-poms, you're against somebody.
Yeah, it's true.
So true.
So the other one is Tom Tillis, because I think he's been a big recipient of big pharma money.
But there he is on the team for RFK.
And then, who was the other ones I wanted to point out among Republicans?
The ones that were important and maybe a little bit of surprise.
There's one more, but the biggest one I wanted to get to was Bill Cassie.
Bill Cassidy.
Oh, I know it was James Langford, who was right after Cassidy.
James Langford of Oklahoma, because he's very, very pro-life.
And there's questions, obviously, about RFK and his history when it comes to life.
And you could argue what's that going to impact him at HHS, you know, he's clearly stated
his goals and what he wants to do.
And maybe that's why in the end he got the yes or the I from James Langford.
But Cassidy was the key.
Cassidy was the doctor.
Cali Means came on to the Will Cain show and said,
this is the guy you have to have.
If you don't get him, you don't get RFK.
RFK reportedly spent the weekend talking to Cassidy on a whole host of issues,
and there you have it.
Now, that doesn't mean necessarily that he's going to fly through the Senate.
Hegset got the vote, right?
And then it came down to 50-50.
But I think with the vote of the committee and with Cassidy in particular,
that carries a lot of weight going into the Senate confirmation for RFK.
So looking good.
I don't know what betting guards are right now.
Look them up real quick.
And then we're waiting on Tulsi, right?
Tinfoil, the vote on Tulsi hasn't taken place yet?
Not as far as I can see.
Right.
Not at the time of we're live here.
Yeah.
What are you looking at?
Polymarket?
Yeah.
So we're trying to get to the one where it has all of the cabinet.
See.
That's just nominates.
You find it.
We'll keep going.
I'll raise my hand when I got it
All right
I'm gonna bet
I'm gonna do over unders
Over under's
Over under on RFK now coming out of committee hearing
Is going to be
90%
That's the over under
I bet
Tulsi
Tulsi hold on
No committee hearing yet for Tulsi
I'm going to put the over under at
I'm going to put her at 60 right now
I think it's gone up
It wasn't the 50s
I'm going to put her at 60
you got it James
I can do this faster than all you guys
while I'm talking effort
I don't understand what's going on
it's quick it's quick takes
I have like a four years old zone
go ahead Patrick
take it away back
ready for the next one
this is a good one
will
is governor New Jersey governor
Phil Murphy hiding an illegal immigrant
in his house
he claims there's a clip of him
and it implies that he is
and here's a clip
play it Dan
talking about
I don't want to get into too much detail, but there's someone in our broader universe whose immigration status is not yet at the point that they are trying to get it to.
And we said, you know what, let's have her live at our house above our garage.
And good luck to the feds coming in to try to get her.
Now, new update here, Will.
his office claims that he they denied the claims and said that he never technically said that the person was illegal just that the immigration status was you know they weren't where they wanted to get to and good and good luck trying to get to the fed the feds coming to get to get to her and here's what tom homin had to say about that
well i think the government's pretty foolish same way said because i got noted it won't let it go we'll look into it and if he's annoyingly
Normally, harboring, concealing, and illegal a violation of Title VIII, United States Code 1324, I would seek prosecution, or the secondary would seek prosecution.
So it looks like he might be playing with fire.
I hope we'll go to find out.
What do you think, Paul?
Okay, first of all, James, do you have the polymarkets up yet?
Yeah, I do.
Okay, but look, in the amount of time it took to play those two clips, I have it up, and I have screen shared it to my,
My in-studio monitors, like, are you guys have two hamsters on a wheel running your internet back there?
Yeah, that's exactly the issue.
You didn't know where to go?
The screen on my phone didn't respond to my fingers because it's old, so I had to switch over the laptop and I found it in 10 seconds.
Well, you're just getting too good at it.
I'm just getting too good at it.
I'm just-you're just getting too good at it.
I was intentionally going slow so I can try and see if they would get me a new phone.
Right. Here we are, guys, just to set the over-unders.
I was wrong.
Yeah.
Tulsi on Polly Market is 99% now.
99% ahead of the hearing.
What happened?
RFK is at 98%.
That's wild.
Tulsi did pick up a new backer, I believe, the last hour or two.
Susan Collins?
Susan Collins?
Yeah.
Yeah, I saw that yesterday.
99% for Tulsi.
That's a huge.
swing she was in the 50s a day or two good yeah they have pete heck set okay okay um all right
governor phil murphy here's the deal he's just if there's one thing to learn i know it's
quick takes patrick i heard you a minute ago if there's one thing to learn about the world right now
everybody's a house of cards don't trump is like what is he the the big bad wolf right now
blowing down houses made of straw
I mean Mexico
we don't want the 25% tariffs
what can we do
10,000 troops at the border as a start
and that'll get you a 30 day pause
Canada
gonna do some things on their border
get you a 30 day pause
everybody talks tough
and then they fold
you know
Venezuela released at American hostages
just over the weekend
the Panama Canal
we'll see where that's headed
looks like it's headed for America's way
Greenland, you know, I think I just read this morning, we're headed for an entree now between Greenland
and America, who knows what that leads to.
Trump is talking big about 51st state of Canada, and we should look up what the betting markets
are on that.
Like, why would you bet against it at this point?
Like, so here's Phil Murphy who wants to run out there like Brandon Johnson, the mayor of Chicago
and several others, and he wants to act tough.
and he says, I've got an illegal immigrant in my attic.
Come get them.
And here's Homan.
Okay.
Next thing you know, it's like, well, actually, actually, they're not an illegal immigrant.
Actually, they just don't have their, I don't even know what he's saying now.
They're legal, but they don't have their permanent citizenship yet.
I don't, I don't know.
They're green card holders, but they're not citizens.
Now he's, he's, what do you call it?
He's like, uh, backtracking.
What do you, crab walking backwards, right?
So, and by the way.
way i hope homin still does does go and investigate because you can't you got a double
well yeah person might be a dreamer but you don't know
Obama 10 years ago was opposed to illegal immigration you know like really high deportations
under Obama and yet now the modern democratic party is open defiance of the law and open
defiance of law enforcement can you imagine I am breaking the law says a governor of a state
come get me i mean okay we'll come get you right there and we should you shouldn't have that kind
of treasonous behavior quite honestly you can't be breaking the law like that and you can't be bragging
about it and you can't be in defiance are you ready to secede in new jersey i'm gonna bet you the people
of new jersey aren't new jersey is closer to going red yeah i was gonna say new jersey is close to
going red. 50,000 votes margin was for Harris in the election. And just yesterday, Scott Pressler came out with something, said that the Democrats lost 2,500 people on the registration and the Republicans gained 10,000. So that's 40,000 people. Right. I found the polymarket for Canada. What is it? It's, so the caveat is, will Canada join the U.S. as the 51st state before July? And it's hovering between 2 and 4% the last month.
That's a really tight timeline they put us on by July, 51st state.
Give us four years, maybe it's like 30, 40 cents.
And not, I don't think anybody says they have to be a state.
What about just like a territory, like Puerto Rico?
That'd be odd.
No votes.
50,000 people in Canada.
That's a tiny state.
I don't know if we're ready for a 50,000 person with two senators.
I don't think anybody's thinking state.
Um, oh, sorry, this was Canada.
We've got to get to figure out how.
Canada's 51st state, not Greenland.
Oh, that's 2 to 4% Canada.
No, we got to carve that thing up anyway.
That's got to become three or four states.
I'm not into this one state thing in Canada.
That's two Democratic senators for sure.
That's one big state.
Okay, take it away, tinfoil.
All right, Will, we got another great story.
This is great stories all around.
Congresswoman Jasmine, Jasmine, Jasmine Crockett.
He's having a melt...
I don't know.
I probably said it wrong.
Did I say it wrong?
Yes.
Daggum it.
Jazz...
Jasmine Crockett
is having a meltdown
over the new administration.
Here's the first clip
of what she had to say on CNN.
This is very simple.
We right now have a white supremacist
that is sitting in the White House.
He is backed up by other white supremacists.
And if you really want to know
who the criminals are in this country,
you can Google it.
You don't have to trust me.
But the people that commit 80%
of the most violent,
crimes in this country are white supremacists yet for whatever reason they sit and they serve at the
pleasure of the president they are the ones that were there on january 6th tearing our democracy down
physically and now we have them tearing us down right here from within hold on so the banner at the
bottom of that cnn story says trump appointee colon and then it's a quote competent white men must be in
charge, right? I have not heard of this story. Can one of you look it up really quickly? What is that
quote? Who is the Trump appointee? So they have an entire segment, and we're going to get to the actual
segment a second, but they have an entire segment dedicated to this one quote, right? I want to know
where that quote came from. I want to know what that's about. It was from a speechwriter who got
appointed to a mid-level state department role as the under-secretary for public diplomacy and
public affairs, and he was fired from CNN for...
CNN?
Yeah, he used to work at CNN.
He wrote an article or something that kind of was kind of...
And now he's working at those mid-level jobs you just described or whatever?
Yeah, he just got appointed to it.
And he said that, and he's, this, and so there's a name, so it's not anonymous.
What's the name?
And, and he said this when and where about competent white men.
Darren Beattie, who was fired in 2018.
Oh, it's Darren Beattie?
He spoke at a, okay, so this is ridiculous.
He was speaking at a Turning Point USA conference, and here's how the article describes it.
A conference attended by white nationalists.
Hmm.
Right.
Okay, that's their characterization.
Right.
God.
Darren Beattie does revolver news.
He's not working the administration right now.
He did before.
No, he's appointed.
He just got appointed.
Oh, he did?
Really?
Yep.
All right, let's get, I don't know.
I got to read in on this quote and all that.
There's another clip.
Jasmine Crockett.
Sorry?
There's another great clip.
Okay, well, hold on.
So they're running with...
Okay, we're doing 2016 again, as my observation at this point.
We're doing white supremacy.
Triple down.
Everybody's a Nazi.
What else we got?
One more clip.
Play it.
I am tired of the white tears.
Listen, if you are competent, you are not concerned.
When I walk into Congress every single day, you know why I don't feel away and why you can't
make me doubt who I am is because I know that I had to work 10 times as hard as they did
just to get into the seat.
When you look and you compare me to Marjorie Taylor Green or me to Lauren Bobert, there is no
comparison.
And that is the life that we have always lived.
So the only people that are crying are the mediocre white boys that have been beaten out by people that historically have had to work so much harder.
This is why they don't want us to have education.
All right.
So much there.
A lot.
I am ready to put her up against Marjorie Taylor Green and Lauren Boebert in any debate with a neutral judge.
any debate on any subject with a neutral judge
she is like puffing out her chest
and her own resume is absurd
like uh this is like aOC
saying that Elon Musk is one of the dumbest billionaires
she's ever come across
that's what she said right
anytime any place
like let's get it on the game field
let's do it
um second
the cliche about had to work 10 times of hard
to get to your seat what is the evidence of that
what evidence is there
about the effort you had to put in
versus someone else had to put in
to get where they are.
I don't, that is a thing that is,
I just hear that cliche
over and over and over again
with no evidence.
The only evidence they offer
is that what they had to overcome
is being black.
That's what she's suggesting
and when most people run that out,
that's what they say.
Finally, the thing that really jumps out to me
is just the open, blatant racism.
I don't care about,
something about white tears and um mediocre white men and here's why i want to point that out because
she's not the only one that does these cliches either those are everywhere right those cliche
that those those statements are everywhere just play the game replace white with any other color
and any other race and ask yourself could you be on national tv saying those things could you be on
tv lumping an entire group together of mediocre blank guys right put whatever you want in there right
whatever you want and you know the answer if you said i don't care about black tears whatever
that statement by itself right there's a radio station in dallas that every time they say
something like that they make a funny voice so that you get clipped you know it never sounds like
you're actually if you get cut out of context it never makes it sound like you actually were saying
it so there's a little freight you know uh i should have done it in a funny voice but um i mean the
point is i would never say that and you can't say that and you shouldn't be able to say that
and you shouldn't be able to say it in reverse about mediocre white men or white tears it's open
racism that's been embraced by far too many on the left and it's i think it's over also just
going to say this really quickly we're going to get into this you live in 2016
your time is past
you're a one-hit wonder
whose song is looked back on like the macarena
and the macarena probably has
more of a lifespan than what you stood for
that it's over for you
that's what I'm going to talk about because
I did a sports podcast yesterday and
the sports world's not real happy to see me back
but at least a
segment of it it would seem
and I just got to tell you something
this ain't your cafeteria
you know
this isn't your school
sports
the mainstream of American culture
it's time for you go back to the corner dork
because you're not in charge
take your tray
and head out to the courtyard
you're not bullying anybody around here anymore
acting like you're the ones
that are cool and control it
America's healing
getting back baby
and you
are the racist or you
one of the beta boy
Unix who
never should have been listened to in the first place.
Keep going.
Keep going.
We mean watch it.
I'm just getting warmed up.
All right.
Not so fast, Will.
Not so fast.
What?
NFL commissioner Roger Goodell
is doubled down on DEI.
Play it, Dan.
Well, I think I've said it before, Jared.
But listen, we got into diversity efforts.
because we felt it was the right thing for the national football league and we're going to
continue to those efforts because we've not only convinced ourselves I think we've proven ourselves
that it does make the NFL better so we're not in this because it's a trend to get in it
or a trend to get out of it our efforts are fundamental in trying to attract the best possible
talent into the national football league both on and off the field as I said previously
Oh, then you should have gotten rid of DEI, Raj.
You're not into getting the best possible talent.
You're getting to getting the best possible talent of certain races at certain times for certain positions.
Of course, not on the field.
Boy.
So the thing on Roger Goodell is, first of all, that statement was completely substancesless.
We did it because we believe it's the right thing.
Why is it the right thing?
Obvious follow-up, you know.
And not only do we believe it, we've been validated because we've proven.
It's the right thing.
How have you proven it, Raj?
What have you done?
What's been the big success of DEI?
I'd love to see that.
What, how about, can we do this?
What's the success of DEI other than some proportional representation of people in certain
positions that you wanted to achieve?
In other words, quotas.
What has DEI done to make your business?
business better. I'm curious about that.
President Trump simplified it
really well.
This big old issue that we've been talking about here
he said we should probably get it on the soundboard.
Everything woke turns
to bleep.
Yeah. That's it. That's the entire issue.
What?
What revenue stream?
What on field product?
What audience viewership?
What anything has been improved
by DEI? True
business metric. Not some
self-fulfilling quota requirement. Not that, but an actual thing that an owner of a business
would be like, we're better because we did that. See, the thing about Goodell is he isn't a true
believer, evidenced by the lack of substance given there. And on the trend front,
Goodell is terrified. That's all there is to it. He's terrified. He's terrified of mutiny. He's
terrified of public blacklash and he still believes that um this is the safe spot for him to sit in
that this is the safe spot so where is the bomb shelter he's going to be closest to it there
in the NFL okay let's get into whether or not you can sue china for COVID-19 it's already
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Joining us now is the Attorney General of the State of Missouri, Andrew Bay.
Bailey. Nice to see you, Mr. Attorney General.
Hey, thanks for having me on.
You bet.
Let's talk about this lawsuit you've got going.
So you were just affirmed in the Eighth Circuit.
I hope you'll forgive me for a minute, Mr. Attorney General.
By the way, that's a mouthful.
I don't want to call you Andrew.
That doesn't give you the proper due respect.
Mr. Attorney General is so much.
There's too many words.
You know, at the Eighth Circuit, I'm curious.
And please forgive me for not reading in.
I'm curious what your issue was.
Was it one of, because there's two things that are fascinating to me.
Standing.
Do you have standing to sue a foreign government over something that clearly had material injury to the citizens of Missouri?
I don't know if that's what was at issue.
But the second is also remedy, which the court I don't think would kick you out on remedy,
but how do you enforce, I think you're suing for $25 billion?
Is that right?
Yeah, $5 billion with the number is?
yeah 25 billion how do you enforce remedy against a foreign power well they're great questions luckily the people's elected representatives in congress thought about them and codified a method by which a state could redress grievances and seek damages against a foreign entity it's called the foreign sovereign immunities act it was passed into law signed into a statute by president at the time gerald ford in 1976 and again this is not some
track pot legal theory. The Congress passed a law to specifically provide a judicial process to do
exactly what we're doing in this case. And that was what was affirmed at the Eighth Circuit Court of
Appeals. The evidence that we have shows that China unleashed the COVID pandemic upon the world and
then hoarded the PPE that the people of state of Missouri needed and the state government needed
to respond to the pandemic that China created. And we've been damaged to the tune of $25 billion. This is a
groundbreaking. I believe it will be a precedential case. China was served and provided with due
process. They'd been afforded an opportunity to defend themselves and put on evidence or
dispute and refute the evidence that we've put on. They've declined to do so. That's how little
they think of these United States, that although they're willing to do business and own assets
in the United States of America, they can't be bothered to comply with federal statutes that provide
a method by which we can bring suit against them. And so we anticipate receiving that $25 billion
judgment from the court within the next couple of weeks, and we'll start identifying assets
to seize, to be sold, to execute that judgment.
Okay, I have so many little questions.
How do you serve China?
You said they were served, like, how do you do that?
How does the state of Missouri serve China?
Yeah, it's not easy.
But luckily, there, again, there's a procedure set forth in the Foreign Sovereignor Immunities
Act that describes proper service and how to effectuate that service.
And look, China's got embassies and ambassadors.
consular offices in the United States of America that are appropriate, you know,
representatives of the Chinese communist government.
Right.
Okay.
Second, they've not participated at all at any level.
No, no replies, nothing.
No filings, nothing.
Didn't show up to court when they were served and the case was initially filed.
Did not show up when the, initially the trial court dismissed the case.
And we had to appeal that decision.
As you pointed out to the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals, didn't show up to argument at the
Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals didn't file any briefs. And then we got remanded once the
Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals overturned the trial court's dismissal and reinstated the case.
We were remanded back to the trial court in the Eastern District of Missouri. And a trial date was
scheduled. And the conferences were scheduled with the court to discuss what the trial was going
to look like. And China was, again, afforded ample opportunity to participate in the proceedings
and defend themselves. I think their unwillingness to participate really speaks to the consciousness
of guilt and culpability. And I think that has been emphasized recently by President Trump's
declassification of the CIA memo, which explains exactly what we all knew all along,
is that COVID was created in a lab. And the lab leak is what caused China to inflict that
pandemic on the rest of the world. And Missourians are still demanding justice. And that's what we
intend to provide through this lawsuit. Where are you right now? You're back at the trial court
level. Or have you already secured a judgment at the trial court level? We are at the trial court level.
we just had trial last week. We put on the evidence and have submitted a proposed judgment.
The trial court asked for additional briefing on one minor point regarding the procedural posture of the parties.
We're going to provide that supplemental briefing, hopefully whether the next week or two.
And then we anticipate that the court will sign our judgment that we answered the court's questions.
We were able to provide information. And again, put on evidence that China inflicted this pandemic on the rest of the world and then hoarded the PPE we needed to respond to it.
And again, I think this is a blueprint for other.
states. We're engaged in a potential trade war with China right now as President Trump comes back
into office and reasserts American interests across the globe. And China is not taking this issue
seriously as evidenced by their willingness to participate. Have you ever in your career
had any trial where the other party just simply did not show? I'm sure you've had some type of
criminal defendant who ghosted the trial, but there was something. I mean, how do you even put on a case?
You know, I guess you, and by the way, how long did it take you to put on your case?
Yeah, I mean, it was a solid day of evidence.
But again, we had laid a lot of groundwork because a lot of what we were talking about and the evidence we were pointing to had already been adduced through pleadings that we had filed previously or through the appellate process.
But, yeah, I mean, look, it is rare that the other party just refuses to even participate in the process.
And China has to know that they are subject to the laws of the United States of America.
They're doing business in the United States of America and owning assets.
in the United States of America.
So it's really disrespectful of our legal system for them to just ignore this altogether.
And that's why we're not going to be shy about executing the judgment, identifying Chinese
owned assets in the state of Missouri or elsewhere.
And then working with any willing participant outside the state of Missouri to help us
execute that judgment, seize those assets, sell them, and recoup that $25 billion that the
Chinese communist government owes to the people of state of Missouri for the injustices of COVID-19.
I want to get back to the judgment in a second because that's another source of
curiosity for me. So in your case, I'm just curious, is the allegation one of negligence?
Is it a negligence-based case in developing the COVID-19 virus and letting it spill onto the world?
Or is it a fraud-based case? Like, you did this. I mean, fraud, I presume, carries some
greater level of intentionality, right? So I'm curious the argument being made.
Yeah. And I think both theories are applicable and relevant to the analysis. At the end of the day, I believe their culpability goes beyond the level of negligence, but negligence is one of the standards that can be used under the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act to establish damages. And certainly that's a theory that we've put forth at court. Now, again, it is negligent in the sense that they negligently inflicted COVID-19 upon the world and then intentionally hoarded the PPE. So that's where your intentionality comes in. But I
I think, again, if you look at the declassification of that CIA memo that points to the lab leak theory, and then the lies, the lies that China has told for the five years after that, at the end of the day, those lies begin to look more like fraud.
And you get to that higher level of culpability.
So let's go to the judgment now, $25 billion.
You've already began to lay out for me how you collect on that.
So once the judgment is secured, it's a process of seizing assets.
identifying and seizing assets. So just, I know you probably can't and don't want to lay out
what assets in particular you'd seize, but can you give me in the audience listening some
sense of expectation like as a profile? Like what could you seize as an asset to potentially
satisfy the judgment? Well, anything we can prove that the Chinese communist government
owns. So whether it be real property, whether it be vehicles, whether it be, you know,
buildings in St. Louis or elsewhere around the country.
We know they have Chinese communist cultural centers that are probably fronts for spying on their own citizens who are studying here in the United States, America.
Things like that start to look like prime targets for asset seizure that we can then convert towards payment of that.
Real quick. Is that almost a whole new level of litigation for you in that I don't know how much is directly owned by the CCP?
You could probably identify a ton of assets that are owned by Chinese corporations.
And then you have to make the argument about how much of the Chinese corporation is,
controlled by the CCP, I would assume. And then therefore, can you seize those assets? I think if
you're limited to just clearly owned assets by the CCP, you'd have trouble getting to satisfy your
judgment. Yeah, no, I think you're right. But again, it's going to require them to show up the court
and object. And so far, they've been unwilling to do that. So we'll see how it goes. At the end of the
day, you know, I think there's another theory here, which is that when Xi Jinping sits on the board of
directors of a Chinese company, it looks like it's a private company. But he has that.
that golden vote. The company is going to do exactly what the communist dictator in China wants
that company to do. And so does that look more like a state-run entity than a more traditional
corporate structure that we would understand in a Democratic Republic like the United States of
America under a capitalist system? And so these are all issues that potentially will be litigated.
But again, it's going to require them to show up and defend themselves. And they've proven
unwilling to do that thus far. Where'd you get the number 25 billion?
Yeah, that's based on the damage estimate on the evidence that we were able to put together
based on the harms inflicted upon the state in our response to COVID when we couldn't access
the PPE. And isn't it a traditional, you know, communist theme that they create a harm,
create a need for a product, and then monopolize the supply of that product and in order to
not meet the demand. I mean, it's a market manipulation that very well fits within the communist
theory. Has this lawsuit, Mr. Attorney General, has this lawsuit,
do you think, has it allowed you any greater understanding of what really happened with COVID?
Why I ask you it that way is you, because they're not participating, don't have special
knowledge from the rest of us in terms of discovery.
You haven't been able to, you know, in a normal lawsuit, you sue someone, you get to go
through the discovery process of requesting documents to kind of help prove your case after
you've already filed your suit, right?
So if that were the case here, you'd be getting stuff out of the Wuhan lab.
You'd be getting stuff out of everywhere based upon the normal legal process here in the United States.
They don't participate.
They're in China.
You're not getting that.
But I don't know.
Certainly under Joe Biden, you wouldn't get any, I don't think you probably got much help when it comes to the intelligence agencies or anything like that.
But has anything in your process been able, you think, to give you special insight to what actually happened with COVID?
Well, I think it's connecting the dots. And again, these are inferences that reasonable people have drawn all along that I think the legacy media largely ignored and that the Biden administration certainly sought to suppress and that the Chinese government actively sought to suppress, which is that China caused the COVID-19 pandemic. That pandemic then harmed Americans and harmed Missourians and did health-wise and economic damage to the people of state of Missouri. And it was an injustice inflicted upon us by a foreign entity.
and that they then hoarded the PPE we needed to respond to that pandemic.
So while China will issue press releases or from the pulpit preach about how helpful
they were in responding to the pandemic, the evidence points to the opposite.
And again, we all knew that, but connecting those dots and then getting the imprimatur of a
judicial process and a judgment that explicitly seals the deal on connects those dots for
the people of the state of Missouri once and for all to say, China did this.
harmed you. They owe you money. There's a system in place to not only redress that grievance,
but collect that money. Now we have that imprimatur of law on that judgment or will have the
imprimatur of law on that judgment. I think it's significant. Is that how you say it? I've always
said imprimatur. Is it imprimatur? I'm mispronounced it. I apologize. I don't know. No,
I'm not making fun of you. I'm literally questioning. I don't know which is the right way to say.
I have no idea. We have a running debate in my office of that very pronunciation, and I consistently get it
wrong. So I will concede
Sir Casimir Provenceration.
In Missouri, do you say
voir dire or vo-dier?
Yeah, yeah. I say
jury selection to avoid the problem, but
there are two jurisdictions
in Missouri. Those that say voir dire
and those that say voir dire and most of them say
voir dire. Okay.
All right, fun conversation,
really fascinating. Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey.
Thanks for jumping on the Wilcane show.
Thanks, sir. Appreciate you.
You bet. That's jury selection.
Voidier, which is a French word.
But in the South, they say Vordire.
And in Texas, a lot of times you say Vodier.
But it's a...
That's the way it happens in the South.
Okay, that was a fascinating conversation.
Let me take a quick break.
Come right back.
I want to talk about the world of sports
before we wrap up.
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So, fellas, I went on the Rosillo podcast, the Ryan Rusillo podcast yesterday.
First time since we were together back in our days at ESPN.
Ryan and I keep in touch. We're friends. We tag.
every once while we talk on the phone.
And because the Dallas Mavs traded Luca,
he thought I'd be a good guest.
By the way, his producer was my producer at ESPN.
Great dude, Saruti.
So they put it out on Twitter, and we discussed this.
And we only have a few minutes to discuss this,
and for half the audience, they're going to be excited
that we only have a few minutes to talk about sports.
But man on X was Rasillo's audience mad at him
that they had me on.
skipping this episode jumping through the will cane interview why do you have this nazi on
yada yada yada yada yada yada yada yada youtube comments were less venom filled and it just made me feel
this what i was talking about earlier with jasmine crockett i don't know a single dude
like that in my world which is a big sports world i don't have a single dude that's that
liberal that he could never hear from someone who has a disagreement on even when they're talking about
talking about something he has nothing to do with his disagreements you know what I'm saying like
it's just about sports I don't know these dudes like I literally and in five years ago we thought
these dudes were the majority that's clearly not the case anymore like it never was it just
sounded that way because you listen to ESPN and lebitard and whatever else but like
whoever these dudes are white dudes for Kamla that loves sports.
sports. I don't know them, fellas. I don't know them.
Like, it feels like yesterday you had a moment and that moment's gone. That's yesterday.
Are these all your friends, two days?
Honestly, no. All my sports fans' friends are, you know, not like that specifically. A couple of them are that I'm in a group chat with. We won't name names. But mostly, I don't see these people in my life either.
So I don't know where this is coming from.
Depends on the fan base, I guess.
It's, do you guys in Florida, in wherever you live, James, the Upper East Side?
I mean, do you have these dudes in your life?
Bernie bros that love the Pistons?
I've got it.
The Pistons aren't our frontrunner, so James wouldn't like them.
I've got zero
Like I'm seriously
I don't know this dude
The dude that is super
hateful of Donald Trump
And he freaking loves the nuggets
You know and he can't get it
The NBA is a more liberal sports base
Right
And X is too
Even post Elon
But like
I just
I just don't know these guys
Mine are Boston
I have two guys who are really anti-Trumpers
big, you know, big-time liberals
and they love the Celtics,
love the Red Sox.
I'm not just saying this.
Most of the guys in my life
are pretty into being guys.
And I'm not making an intellectual.
Yeah, I'm not making an intellectual argument.
But like,
well, I mean, like, I do know a bunch of like,
you know, bets and special forces dudes,
you know, almost to a man.
I can tell you,
they're not on the internet talking about
I can't hear from this guy that likes Donald Trump
I do know a bunch of guys in Texas that likes sports
to a man
I can't imagine them behaving this way
and thinking this way
so I don't know if
in their spare time these dudes
are making sure there's tampons in the men's bathroom
but when they're not
they're apparently
super into Anthony Davis
trade
all right I got to go
because we're up against it here. I got to say goodbye to everybody.
Maybe we'll pick up more on this tomorrow.
Jump into my social media. I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.
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