Will Cain Country - Will They Find Former President Trump Guilty? Former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy Weighs In.

Episode Date: May 30, 2024

Will They Find Former President Trump Guilty? Plus, Former Speaker Kevin McCarthy Joins Guest Host Sean Duffy Story #1: Sean is joined by FOX News Contributor & Attorney Leo Terrell to break down the latest developments in the Trump criminal trial that is wrapping up in New York. Story #2: Former Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy weighs in on former President Trump and Republican congressional electoral chances. Story #3: Sean is joined by his co-host on the From The Kitchen Table Podcast, co-host of FOX & Friends Weekend, and co-host in life, his wife, Rachel Campos-Duffy.   Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail]   Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show!   Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We have Leo Terrell coming in to talk about the Trump-hush money trial. I talk about the latest developments with requests made by the jury. We also have former Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy, going to join us this hour. But the greatest guests we have, and I'm not biased here, she's probably the smartest and hottest woman at Fox News. And I'm not biased because it's my wife. Rachel Campa Steff is going to join us later in the hour. But first, Joe Biden. Joe Biden is not normal.

Joe Biden isn't smart. Joe Biden isn't normal on the southern border. To sign 90 executive orders and undo the Trump policy at the southern border, allow millions of people to stream across that border into our country. Tapping our budget, we're spending billions of dollars a year, not just in the federal budget, but in our state and city. budgets. That's not normal. But he's allowed 1.5 million godaways into the country, probably more than that. That's just what we know of. But the gotaways, these are people

who don't want to get caught, the people who don't want the free plane flight to their city of choice. They don't want the free debit card. They don't want the free food, the free housing, the free cell phone. They don't want any of that because, frankly, they're scum. These are probably the terrorists, the drug dealers, the human smugglers, the drug traffickers that have come. And come into our country over 1.5 million under Joe Biden's watch. It is not normal if you love your country to allow for that policy. But it's not smart because once you've signed those executive orders and you see the American people don't like the policy and how many people from around the world have come into the country, you would say, I'm going to change course.

I'm going to change policy. I'm going to do all I can to secure the border, protect my people because I love them. Joe Biden is not smart because for three and a half years, it's been open borders, America be damned. Joe Biden's not normal. He supports young Americans, the youth of this country transitioning their sex with life-altering procedures that will commit them to a lifetime of issues. He's one who supports boys who say they're girls competing in girls' sports. He doesn't recognize the physiological differences between boys and girls. That's not normal. These are people who can't drive. They can't get a tattoo. They can't drink. They can't smoke.

But Joe Biden says, I stand with trans kids transitioning before the age of 18. And it's not smart because most Americans, they don't agree with Joe Biden. They say, listen, if you're an adult and you want to transition and you're not a guy that wants to compete in girls sports, that's okay. but we should protect kids. It's not just moms and dads, it's coaches. It's the athletes. Most Americans think this policy is not smart. It's not normal to impose sanctions on Iran,

the lead sponsor of terror in the world, but not enforce those sanctions, to allow Iran to have billions of new dollars of revenue from oil sales so they can fund terror in the Middle East, but around the world. That's not smart. And they funded Hamas, which has now started the war in the Middle East. I'm sorry, that's not normal.

But it's also not smart because what happens is Hamas, funded by Iran, starts a war with Israel, and has divided Joe Biden's party. Right? So you have a part of the party, the Democrat Party, that supports Hamas and the Palestinians, and another part that supports Israel. So you have Joe Biden voters, these young kids on college campuses, chanting genocide Joe. If you love America, if you think we're the,

greatest place on earth and you want to protect us. Don't destabilize the world. Put sanctions on Iran and enforce those sanctions like Donald Trump did. Maximum pressure was Donald Trump's philosophy. Joe Biden, fund lead sponsors a tear. It is not normal and it's not smart. And finally, it's not normal to be an American president and to prosecute your lead political opponent and not to call out your political allies, other Democrats in other cities who are prosecuting your lead political opponent. It would be smart, especially when America views you as a dithering, um, alien old man to actually say, my administration is not going to prosecute Donald Trump and I'm going to call out any Democrat prosecutor who's going after my political

opponent because Joe Biden will look like he's one in control. He's in command. and he would look presidential. But Joe Biden is not normal, and Joe Biden is not smart. However, my first guess is very normal and is very smart. Let's welcome to the show, the great Leo Terrell. Leo, good to have you on The Wheel of King Show. Thanks for being here. Sean, thanks for having me.

Glad to be here. So let's talk about the Trump trial. You know, yesterday the jury came out and, and, ask questions, what about four and a half hours of deliberation, and they wanted to have testimony read back to them from David Pecker, also from Michael Cohen, and they also want the jury instructions re-read to them. What do you make of this request by the jury? First of all, thanks for the question. And let's not call this the Trump trial. This is the Biden trial. This is a situation where Joe Biden is using the legal system to basically,

go after his opponent. And I'll be very clear. The cat's out of the bad. A couple of days ago, Sean, you recall that that circus show with Robert De Niro. They have made it front and center. It is all about politics and to deny Trump the chance to run for president. It's not going to happen. But let me answer your question. I think what you gather from that, that that read back, the request for jury instructions is the jury had to listen for an hour and a half to all these jury's instruction by a judge who has been compromise. So they have to basically understand these instructions because they don't have a copy of the jury instructions in the back. Apparently New York law is different from California law and federal law. The readbacks indicate to me the jury is looking for testimony outside of Michael

Cohen. Michael Cohen is a liar. So if they're going to try to tie Trump to this case, which I don't think they can, they have to see if there's any evidence, any testimony that links Trump to some form of conspiracy, some form of intent to create election campaign violation, which I don't see to find him, committing some form of bookkeeping fraud, which he has no personal knowledge of. She can't even get my hand or my mind around this, but the jury, in my opinion, is trying to do the right thing right now based on the initial request

for information. So you've been on the bottom line, my Sean Fox business with Daguerre McTowell. We had Dori Murdoch on, a contributor at Fox, writer for the Wall Street Journal, and he said he served on three juries in New York City. And again, he's like a lot of liberals here. But what he took away from all of the jury panels that he served on was that people took it seriously, that they're charged with making a decision of guilt or innocence applying the law to the facts of the case. Now, that's not every jury and not every defendant isn't Donald Trump. So I do hope to your point that this jury is truly going to consider the evidence that was presented. And I think it's a good sign that the jury hasn't gone back to deliberate and said,

well, we hate Donald Trump, so let's find him guilty. They're actually going through the evidence, and that they want evidence read back to them. That is at least a glimmer of hope that they're going to consider what the prosecution admitted to evidence and the closing arguments and how they find truth in this case. or you're right i've been a trial lawyer's job for 30 years civil rights lawyer i've been in the courtroom and juries take their responsibility seriously and i want to be very clear to the viewers this judge is compromised and you know what most trial lawyers do not want lawyers in the jury box but i'm hoping these lawyers do the right thing not only looking listening to and evaluating the

evidence correctly but they have an ethical obligation as lawyers to do the right thing. And I'm hoping that these lawyers on the jury will negate the thumbprint that this judge has basically put on this case by citing with the prosecution. So I'm hopeful that the jury will do the right thing. You know, to the point in the judge, Leo,

I want to dig into this a little bit further because at trial, it was brought out that Michael Cohen pled guilty to this federal election, election violation, right? And when that was brought up, it was limited in what it could be considered for, which was to impeach the credibility of Michael Cohen that he had pled to this charge. He's a criminal. That was the purpose for the testimony being allowed in and the jury to hear it. But it was not supposed to be used to imply that if Michael Cohen had pled guilty to a federal election charge, that could then be used to assume that Donald Trump too violated federal

election law and therefore had interfered with an American presidential election. But in closing arguments over the objection of the defense, the judge allowed the prosecution to argue just that, Leo. That is outright, you and I know, that is outright reversible error. I want to be very clear. That judge did everything he could to help the prosecution. He knows it's wrong. I want the people to understand what they, Sean, they don't care about a reversal. they want a guilty verdict against Donald Trump before November 24. They want to try to brand him as a convicted felon

so the Democrats and Joe Biden can use it as a campaign weapon. It's not going to work, but let's be very clear. You and I, anyone who has any knowledge about the law knows that the prosecution had no right, no right to make that inference and close the argument, and it was allowed by the judge. It's outrageous. It's outrageous.

I spent 10 years as a prosecutor, done over 100 jury trials. It's actually, and I know you've done trials as well. It's exhilarating to present a case to a jury, give your closing, and they get the instructions, and you go wait for a verdict. It's an amazing process that this country has where told people get to decide the guilt or innocence or the liability or culpability of a civil defendant. But in this case, or actually I should say in my cases, I always had judges that bent over backwards to protect the rights of the defendant, right? And that would frustrate me sometimes as a prosecutor.

I thought that they would go too far. They were too lenient and generous with the defense and making decisions that benefited the defense over the prosecution because they thought it was their job also to protect the accused rights. In this case, I think time and time again, we've seen a judge who's basically taken the position. He's like a third prosecutor in the case making decisions that are going to, in his mind and in his heart, hope to get a conviction of Trump as opposed to administer justice with the prosecution, presenting evidence, and the defense making arguments about why Donald Trump is innocent. The played part here by this judge is outrageous. That's why it's insulting to call this a trial. This is not a crowd. You and I know the rules of evidence.

We know criminal procedure, and we know this judge is not following it. So the question I learned him off was why. He's compromised. His daughter is compromised. His daughter raises money off his cave. He's a, in my opinion, this is my opinion. That judge is a Democratic operative, and I'm telling you, he bent over backwards to get a conviction on a presidential nominee who is leading the poll.

So I'll tell you right now, to call this a trial insults the legal system. And what makes this country great, Sean, is our legal system of justice fairness. It does not exist in this courtroom. Donald Trump, President Trump, is not getting due process, and his fundamental rights in the 5th and 6th and 7th Amendment have been violated. We're the gold standard. You and I both know that. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. We often think that it's better for an innocent man to go free than a guilty man to go free than an innocent man to be convicted.

That's oftentimes the philosophy. Mr. Wonderful. Kevin O'Leary was on the Five last night, and he was talking about the American brand. He was just overseas. And he was trying to raise money. I think that was his point. And everyone wanted to talk about this Trump trial. He talked about how the American brand, because of it. of this trial, this political prosecution of Donald Trump.

And by the way, I'm sure a lot of Europeans don't like Donald Trump, but they see the political prosecution. The American brand in who we were for law and order and justice has been shattered by this prosecution. Word, you just articulated justice. And I'll tell you right now, Lady Liberty's at issue here. And what this has done to the American legal system has been irreparably harmed.

Donald Trump says over and over, Sean, on his campaign rallies, if it could happen to him, it can happen to you and I. And what is happening right now is the Democrats that say, you know what, we've got another pool we can use. We're going to politicize our legal system for power and control. That's the scary part about this, because every American can be subject to what Donald Trump is going through simply as a result of an obsession for power and control.

That's the scary part. That is a scary part. I'm going to get to what happens, you know, when the jury makes a decision in just a second. But I want to go on one other point to this case, which is in regard to the falsification of documents, right? Donald Trump allegedly knew that he was going to make the payments to Michael Cohen and classify it as legal expenses as opposed to hush money payments. That's the theory of the defense. there's three people that would know that, right? Three people to a party of this transaction.

It would have been Michael Cohen, Mr. Weisselberg, who is Trump's accountant and Donald Trump himself, right? Those would be the three. Well, Donald Trump, you can't call as a witness. He's the defendant. So you have Cohen and you have Weisselberg. Now, Weisselberg has pled to perjury.

He's in Rikers Island right now, but the prosecution has a lot of, they got a lot of shoulder into him, right? They could put a lot of pressure on him to testify on their behalf. They didn't call Weisselberg, right? They relied on Michael Cohen. Instead of calling Weisselberg as well, Michael Cohen, who has lied to Congress, he has lied to courts in the past, he's lied to his wife, he's lied to banks, and he's actually lied to this jury. What does it tell you when you have another witness who probably has more credibility than Michael

Cohen and you don't call them, doesn't it beg the conclusion that he probably might blow up your whole theory of the case? think about that. Yes, absolutely. You see, you're looking for a rational reason for irrational behavior on the part of the prosecution. They should call Weisenberg, but he doesn't fit their narrative. And there's that jury instruction. If you don't believe a witness in one part of testimony, you can disbelieve. You have to disbelieve everything Michael Cohen says. You have to believe, disbelief everything. He's a liar. So where's the evidence that Trump had knowledge. Is it whites and birds? They don't call him. So there's no evidence in this case.

There's none. Zero. And you don't have that underlying argument of fraudulent documents being proven. How can you prove any other crime, which I still don't know what they are? Again, I don't either. I want to move to this. Now, I would ask you what you normally think would happen. But everything that I think is normal in regard to criminal procedure and process, I've been wrong at because this judge has totally blown up my view and I think the norms across the country and how criminal trials are run. So I say that as a preference, as a preface to this question, if Donald Trump is convicted, is he sentenced before the next election? And if sentenced, will that sentence be stayed while he appeals and probably has his case overturned? Or if

sentenced, will the judge actually try to send him to jail, house arrest? How does his play out? What do you see happening here if there is a conviction, Leo? First of all, President Trump is not going to jail. I think he can be sentenced and you'll see an automatic appeal. I think he'll be on probation. I think as the appellate process works his way up, I think he'll still be allowed the campaign. I don't see any incarceration whatsoever. But this judge is going to be going to to sentence him before November. He wants that. He needs that sentencing.

He needs it because that's the campaign propaganda that the Biden administration winning for. Don't forget, Joe Biden, again, we're not involved in it. He originally stated the White House said he's going to have a statement after the verdict. Isn't that a signal that they're going to try to use this? So the good thing for Trump voters and supporter in America, Trump is going to still be on the campaign.

And I think this is already baked into the process. I think if the conviction takes place, I don't think it's going to hurt Trump's chances at all. Most people know what this case is all about, but he's not going to jail. But I do see a sentencing if there is a conviction. Before November. Before November.

That's the whole purpose of this, Sean. The whole purpose of this is a sentencing before November. That's right. It's going to be interesting to watch this play out. You know, what does this judge do? How does he sentence? When does it happen? What happens with appeal?

It creates a lot of questions. Leo, I think a lot of us have come to the conclusion that the legal justice system is not fair, especially if your name is Donald Trump. And I want to take a trip with you down memory lane, okay? Let's think back to the 2016 election when these alleged offenses, took place. Donald Trump allegedly paying off Stormy Daniels through Michael Cohen, classifying it as legal expenses when they're really campaign contributions to hush her up and affect the outcome of the 2016 election where Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton.

That's the theory. But let's go with another set of facts that we know to be true. Hillary Clinton and the Democrat National Committee paid through a lawyer for a dossier. that had an allegation that Donald Trump was colluding with the Russians to win the election. Absolutely false. They misclassified and characterized the payments for the Steele dossier. They were trying to impact the outcome of an election saying Donald Trump was an asset of Putin, right? Exact same set of facts that actually are true facts. And not only that, Leo, they took that dossier, and after Donald Trump was elected,

and sworn in, they used it for the Russia collusion hoax where our government, with that document, building upon that fake document, tried to coup against Donald Trump, try to remove him from office with these false allegations that started with Hillary Clinton and the DNC. This is the case that should be prosecuted if anyone's being prosecuted, not Donald Trump.

You're going to remember one thing. Hillary Clinton got a big D on her name. big d on her name it's called a crack it's not only unfair to trump there's a dual system of justice democrats don't get prosecuted Hillary couldn't will never face prosecution even though it's obvious what she did not only with a still dossier let's not forget her server downstairs in her house in which she had classified documents there's a d on her name right and as long as that d remains her name she's got free it's it's a it's a dual system of justice for Democrats and Republicans, and it's an unfair system affecting Donald Trump

and could affect every American in this country. Now, it's very easy to figure out. It's politics, Sean. It's all about politics. If you think legal, it will blow your mind. It's politics, power and control. If you have a deed by your name, you can not pay your taxes like Hunter Biden. they'll let the statute of limitations run on your tax bills owed and they'll try to structure a deal where you don't get prosecuted for any of your crimes until a judge blows it up. You're a hundred percent right, Leo.

So I want to talk about the politics of this for a second, and I want to talk about the black vote. I wasn't sure what we were going to see with Donald Trump at the Bronx when he went there. And it was pretty raucous. the residents of the Bronx, I'm sure people came in from elsewhere, but from everyone I talked to, they're like, this was a Bronx neighborhood, you know, event for Donald Trump. There was a lot of minorities, Hispanics, black, Asian, all out there supporting Donald Trump.

In the recent polling, I've seen anywhere from, you know, the black vote is going 18 to 23% for Donald Trump. Now, that sounds like a really small number, but when Donald Trump only was getting 12% in the last election, If he gets five or six percent more in places like Michigan or in Pennsylvania, in Georgia, this will decide the election. And so Joe Biden's afraid of losing the black vote right now. And so he was talking in Philadelphia yesterday to a black crowd. I want to play this and get your reaction. Let's watch. What do you think he would have done on January 6th if black Americans?

Americans that stormed it. Think about this. What do you think what happened if black Americans had stormed the Capitol? I don't think he'd be talking about pardons. It's the same guy who wanted to tear gas you as you peacefully protested George Floyd's murder. Leo Terrell, Donald Trump wanted to tear gas people. What do you make of this Joe Biden clip? And does it work? Joe Biden is a liar. And we go back to that D and R. Joe Biden is a guy four years ago, Sean. And I tell this story the over over is the number one reason why I voted for Trump in 2020. I'm going to vote for him in 2024. He made that racist statement. If you don't vote for me, you ain't black. Remember that? He said that on national radio. That was it. Joe Biden is the

racist. You know, I find it insulting for Joe Biden and the Democrats to trot out every four years, the same race card. They go to a black church. They go to the NAACP and they tell the world that the Republicans and Trump are racist. That card is over with.

The 12, 20% of black men who are moving to Trump will finish the Democrat Party. They can't win. Those battleground states, they're going to lose.

They're going to outright lose. And I'll tell you what resonates with black voters who are leaving the Democrat Party. Because, Sean, you and I, regardless of my skin color and your skin color, we want a secure border. You and I, regardless of our skin color,

we want low inflation. We want a better economy. We want a secure country. Our skin color has nothing to do with it. We all want good schools for our kids. We want good school. Our skin color has to do it. The Democrats play the race car over and over again.

I want to say this very clear. I'm so upset by this as a civil rights journey. There is no systemic racism. in America. Look who's running Chicago. Black folks. Look who's running New York. Look who's running Los Angeles.

We got people of color all throughout this country. And yet, the Democrats play that same old race card and talk about racism. Black folks are worrying about the inflation, putting gas in their car, the things that you and I, regardless of color, care about. The Democrats are going to lose this year because black voters. and Hispanic voters are saying goodbye. We're leaving the party. We don't drink the Kool-Aid any longer.

You know, just to be clear, if you don't know, and I'm sure you all do watching the Wilcane show, Leo Torel used to be a Democrat. Donald Trump has brought him over, and he's a Trump supporter, as you can see, big time. I've done a number of interviews on this topic, Leo, and I've heard they come from Chicago, but other cities, where I've had guests on the bottom line where they've said, you know, listen, Joe Biden and Democrats

for decades, for generations, when we've asked for help in our communities, they always told us they didn't have any money. There wasn't enough money to help us out. They'd keep trying, but there wasn't money for us. And we kind of accepted that. Democrats made promises and promised to keep trying. But with illegal immigration, they're seeing actually, aha! There is money.

You were lying to me because I see how much money you're spending on those who are not Americans who come into this country unlawfully. You're giving them food, housing, cell phones, debit cards,

and you had nothing for me? I think that lie has truly anchored so many in the minority community. What say, you, Leo? Right. Look at Chicago. They're up in arms.

They're up in arms because, you see, the whole purpose of these illegal aliens coming across this country, to me, this is the Democrats' playbook for their new potential voters. But black Americans are sick and tire being lied to. Now the lie is out in the open.

It's out in the open in New York and Chicago and all these Democrat cities where illegal aliens are getting more benefits than American citizens, black citizens, again, regardless of color. And they have realized and they say, we're done, we're finished with you. So this transition of leaving the Democrat party by blacks and Hispanic is going to grow.

And that message that Trump gave in the Bronx, that message was colorblind. Better job, lower inflation, better economy, secure the border. Those are colorblind issues. We've got to stop dividing ourselves by skin color. I want the same things that you and Rachel and your kids want. Exactly. It's crazy.

Amen to that, Leo. That's right. We're Americans, right? We're humans. We all want the same things. We want to be able to support our families. because you want good jobs. You want low inflation. We want to be able to buy food at the grocery store and put gas in our car. You know, have a barbecue, maybe take a vacation. Everybody wants the

same thing. And Joe Biden and Bidenomics has robbed that from every American. I think you're right. You're going to see a substantial number of black votes. Go to Donald Trump this year, and I think the dam is breaking. I think the lie has been exposed, and you have been part of exposing that lie. Leo Terrell, I'd call you a friend. I appreciate you being on the Will Kane show with me. Always so smart, and I love the passion, Leo Torel. Thanks for being with me. Well, first of you for inviting me.

Thank you for inviting me on your television show. Stay hi to your lovely wife. And I'm going to bring her donuts when I come back to New York again. You're her favorite, Leo. By the way, just quick, Leo was her first guest when she got Fox and Friends. He tweeted out right when the news was announced, I'm going to be her first guest, and he was. and Leo has a fond place in the hearts of the Duffy family,

but also with my wife, Rachel. Leo Terrell, thanks for being on the Wilcane show. We appreciate it. My friend. Thank you very much. Thanks, right. All right. We're going to take a break.

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Welcome back to the Will Kane show. I am Sean Duffy filling in for Will Kane. I want to bring in my next guest, who is a friend, also the former Speaker of the House, the great Kevin McCarthy, who I had to track down and twist his arm to join me on the show today, and I appreciate you making time, Mr. Speaker, for the Wilcane show. Anything for you, Sean. You are a sweetheart. Hey, look what you're wearing today. You need like a little gold chain there. I see you've got the shirt buttoned open. Now, now, I see you're still.

in a jacket and blue shirt, some things don't change. I'm working. I'm stuck in a hotel. I just did an event in L.A. in Orange County. Then I'm going to be on my way to San Diego, raising money for the Republican Party.

And then I'll fly back up to Bigger. I'll do an event for David Valadeo tonight. We're going to grow this majority even bigger, I promise you. And I want to get to that in a second. And by the way, you told me the schedule. I'm like, you can fit me in for 15 minutes, Mr. Speaker, and you did. I want to talk about that majority in just a second.

But first, I just want to get, Your reaction to the Trump trial, the jury's now out, day two, deliberating on the fate of Donald Trump. What's your reaction to what's happened here? My reaction, and you listen to the Democrats, democracy is on the ballot? Yes, it is. Because they're putting Trump on the ballot in essence because they're putting him in a court because they can't beat him on the outside. This is ludicrous. There is no crime.

They can't tell you what the crime is. they go to the and this is saying no one quite realize this is the second most highest democrat county in the entire country Biden won this by 87 percent they put a judge in that might as well be the prosecutor you you were a former DA when have you ever heard a judge say well you don't have to have a unanimous belief here I take four here four there we'll call it a day you know predetermined everything they want simply because they cannot be this man. But when there was an interesting poll, I think maybe it was CNN, and they asked the American public, just independent voters, not Republicans, not Democrats, who would be a greater threat to

democracy? Would it be Biden if he had another four years? By 53% to 42, it was Biden. And this is exactly why they believe that. What they were doing is an atrocity. And as a whole, I think the polling shows if all Americans are polled voters, it's about 50-50 threats to democracy. So this push that Democrats have made that Republicans and Donald Trump are a threat to democracy, it has backfired on them, which is why they're not using it anymore. I think it's interesting. There's, you know, there hasn't been on a couple of Donald Trump. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah, Bidenomics is going now too, because that doesn't work either because inflation has been horrible. But, you know, Donald Trump hasn't gotten a lot of media, right? He does these rallies, does the

campaigns. But if you look at this trial, I think it's backfired against Democrats because every day after trial, Donald Trump comes out and does oppressor, and everybody covers it. And by the way, he's a great messenger. I mean, you always hear this is a witch hunt. He'll talk about the judge. He's on message all the time. But he's then talking about issues of the border, of inflation, of the economy, of foreign policy, Joe Biden's failure. This has been a platform for Donald Trump actually to get his message out when I think it was harder for him to get that message out before the trial.

What's at you? It was. I mean, the one thing you see, the American public sees what this is. But more importantly, he is a great messenger. Think about what he's done while he's at this trial. He goes to union hard hat workers. They're cheering them and saying, you know, get rid of, let's go branded in the same place. You've watched what he's gone out to the firehouses.

You watch that he goes to the Bronx. This is what's really telling, you know, AOC went crazy because he's going to the Bronx. Bronx is going to be blue. In 1980, if you watched Ronald Reagan went to the Bronx, Ronald Reagan got booed there. This is going to be an unbelievable election. I think you're going to see states that have never gone Republican are going to go for Trump. Doesn't mean they're going Republican, but means they're going for Trump because they see what is happening.

The American public knows the only reason he is in trials because his last name is Trump and he's running for president. Had he not been running for president, he would never be there today. Yeah, you're right. If his name was Donald Trump, he wouldn't be there. So many people know you as the former Speaker of the House. They don't know that you are probably the greatest political mind that served in the House and I don't know how long. And I think you're right.

I think that I don't know that Donald Trump's going to win places like New Jersey or New York, but what he might do is he might force Democrats to spend money to preserve New York in New Jersey and other states. And that means they don't have money or as much money for Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Michigan. And so on this point, I want to talk to you about what's going to happen in the coming election. So Republicans are going to go back to their districts and they're going to ask to be reelected. There's going to be candidates who've never been in the ballot. They're going to say, listen, I want to go to Congress. I'm a Republican. I want to fight for freedom, democracy, lower taxes, you know, less inflation, you know,

stronger foreign policy. And the problem I think is, if you're an American, you'll look at our conference, a Republican conference, where I served with you. You go, this is the most dysfunctional band of idiots. And I'd say that with a lot of passion and love, because I love the, I love the men and women we served with. But what the hell is going on? How do you make the argument to reelect people where we spent, we spent all this time, or they spent all this time ousting you, trying to find a new speaker? It's been a disaster. Yeah, but you can't judge all of them. It was only eight, right?

So you're talking 4% of the conference with every Democrat. So eight Republicans want to work with all the Democrats. So if you really want to change Congress, change those eight and change those Democrats. And look, this next election, I think you ought to look at the last election first, okay? In the last election from president, because we elected by Electoral College, Joe Biden won by 48,918 votes. votes. That's not a lot of votes, okay? But if you look at where his polling was, his approval rating, favorability rating was plus 10. Now it's minus 20. If you look at the latest poll by CNN when they say, was President Trump's presidency successful policy-wise? 55% say yes. Donald Trump's

polling. And you're right about Democrats going to have to play in other states. When Ronald Reagan won in 84, he won 49 states. He didn't win Minnesota. I believe Minnesota is going to be come and play. And so when you start expanding the playing field, it's much different for the Democrats. And remember, when Joe Biden ran last time for president, it was the first time since 1994. Not one Republican incumbent in Congress lost unheard of. So Trump brings turnout. And if you look at the polling right now, Trump leaves the Republicans in those states.

And Biden is actually the Democrat senators are ahead of Biden in those states. And no president has had this low of favorability rating at this point in time before re-election. You know, today Joe Biden put a lid on it at 938. Donald Trump will sit in a courtroom, talk to the press twice. When the court's over at 8 o'clock a night, he'll work the phones, he'll go someplace else. He'll get on a plane into another place and have five more rallies. I mean, and he'll show up at the weekend at a Formula One where America's at, are into a baseball game, and go to places he's going to Democrat places that Biden can't even go to.

I want Biden to go to the Bronx and see who turns out and see what happens in response to it. That's the difference. America wants somebody working for. Or have him go to a bodega and see how many people come outside that bodega to rally on behalf of Joe Biden. I would imagine no one really shows up. So I'm going to talk to what's going to happen. That's a key point here. But this is what Trump is so good at.

Trump just going to the bodega sets a tone. One, he cares, but two, about the Democrats' crime policy throughout America. So it's not just in New York. It's everywhere. When he goes to another place, he shows, you know, in Massachusetts, there's not one Republican congressman from Massachusetts. But do you know what the governor called his state of emergency there? The southern border. What Biden has done, New York City, if you ask the mayor the number one issue, he'll say the southern border.

The governor, New York, the southern border, all caused by Biden. And everybody knows Trump will secure the moment he gets in office. He knows by going to the bodega that your streets will be safe again. He's sending you a very clear message. You could talk to foreign leaders. They tell you the world is in disarray. What do we need? They say, you elect Donald Trump again, the world will be calm.

because you know what? The one president that Putin never invaded another country is was during Donald Trump's term, those four years, the only time Putin to invade someone else. We've had five embassies evacuated under Biden. I mean, this has been a disaster, and I think people are hungry for this, and when they see them playing the court system against justice just to try to keep somebody off the ballot, it only makes people more intense to turn out to vote. More angry. And I think what's important, and again, I had the pleasure to serve with you in the House, and I love my time serving there. What I think is a fair analysis of the Republican Party and members who serve is everyone thinks they have the best set of ideas. They're the smartest person with the best ideas in the room, which means you get this friction.

And that friction oftentimes can be really good because you get the best policy. Democrats, you know, they're just a bunch of cats that will, you know, follow, you know, the Nancy Pelosi. elite cat, and they all get on board. And so I think it's, it is important to your original point that we have a bigger Republican majority. They actually have a Republican majority because otherwise you're going to see more impeachments of Donald Trump, but you need a manageable majority where you can actually get things done. If you have, you know, eight or 15 crazies, you still have people that can come together and work on behalf of conservative philosophical principles. So as you look at that, you look at Joe Biden's approval ratings. Again, you said

he was up, he was up 10 in 2020. He's down 20 right now. What does that mean for this coming election? Is the House going to pick up how many seats? It is easier for the House to win seats for Republicans in the House this cycle than it was the last two cycles. Now, I've been leader for five years. I'm one of the only leaders that have gained seats every single time. They said I'd lose 15 seats, didn't lose one, actually beat 15 Democrats. And this is why you've had redistricting in North Carolina. So Republicans will pick up three seats right there. Democrats thought they'd redistrict New York.

They pretty much only got one seat. They got Alabama and Louisiana. This is unbelievable malpractice what happened in Louisiana. Republicans control all. We have our number one and number two people from the House. They gave a seat up in Louisiana. That could be the majority if you're not smart. but you look at like michigan slotkin we came close to be here she's running for the senate we'll win that seat

you look at spamburger in virginia she's leaving we came close to be it we'll win that seat we've got another two in california you look at alaska 63% vote for the republican but they have the rank system don't get there you look at main main main in nebraska are the only two states that go their electoral votes by congressional district it's not the entire state trump wins one of them up there by 10 we've got a great guy Austin, who's a former NASCAR driver, he's going to pick up up there. I look at Ohio. We had the wrong candidate last time, so we lost that seat. Trump's going to carry Ohio. We'll pick up there. I think we could pick up 10 to 12 seats pretty easily in Congress. And now make a real difference. Also, if you shift out, like Donald Trump just came out and he endorsed John

McGuire in Virginia's race against Bob Good. And remember what Bob Good did. On the day that Trump got held in one of his trials by one of the juries, Bob Goodwin and endorsed against Donald Trump, right? John McGuire is a Navy seal, a state senator. That would be someone who would work with Trump, right? And then within the Nancy Mace race, you could do the same thing. So if you take those eight and change them where they're not working with Democrats, they're working with Republicans and you add 10 more, you've got a lot of power. Think about how much we did in the first nine months the strongest border security bill in history a parents bill of rights an energy security bill we cut two trillion dollars reformed welfare i mean these are the things that could accomplish

and i watched all the conservative things you would do in the house and you came from a seat that a democrat held since since before we landed on the moon so a lot of people wouldn't even think about running you took the risk and you proved and you turned that district to show them what conservative ideas and policies could make their life better. Well, and I just, to put a period on that point, you were helpful to me, one of the first members of Congress that helped me when I ran, and you were only there, I think, two or four years before me. All these members know who you are.

I think you've probably been to every member, Republican members district, helping them raise money. You're doing that again, as you said tonight for one of our friends and colleagues, who has a half seat, David Valadeo in California. And that's why, you made a point on what was done in the first nine months of your speakership, which is really remarkable because you see how hard it has been for Speaker Johnson to manage this crew of Republicans and all that you got done because of the relationships that you have, the knowledge that you have, and the care and heart

you have for everyone in the conference, it was a remarkable set of accomplishments in a really tough, small, slim majority that you did very well. I'm proud of that nine months. I'm proud to call your friend. And I'm proud that you're still out there, Speaker McCarthy. Still helping the party and those members that you care about so much. You know what I love? When the day I became minority leader, Nancy Pelosi became speaker.

So in those four years, we ended up winning the majority by five seats. You know how many seats we won in California in those five years? five seats we beat nancy's pelosi's speakership in our home state so i've been on the road here in californ and i think that's where the majority lies they're trying to come after our current members in california so i was in l a raising money for the party yesterday orange county yesterday i'll be in san diego today and back in baker'sville tonight for the individual candidate and so i just think it's so important for this nation if we don't have a bigger majority in the house for Donald Trump. They're going to try to impeach them. They're going to try to slow down our ability

to secure the border, our ability to make this country stronger, energy independent, give parents to say in their kids' education. There's so much potential. America's too great to think so small and have somebody like Joe Biden as president. That's exactly right. And you're always, you never missed the opportunity to make the point that though we all might dump on California, We all complain about California, how crazy and woke it is. You make the point that you would not have the majority but for California and probably New York. Those two states combined together. Yeah.

I mean, it's these two liberal states. We've had the greatest growth as a party. And Lori Chavez-Dreamer, we won in Oregon trying to win that seats for three years. Juan Siski-Mani on the border of Arizona. You know, the thing you've got to think about in the House, when Republicans were losing the Senate for two cycles, we were gaining, right? The quality of candidates, right? And people thought, I mean, you could,

the country owes you a great deal of gratitude and thanks because you ran against somebody the chairman of appropriations. You know how powerful that is. The guy's been in here since, you know, we landed on the moon. People were afraid to get up and walk and talk to them, right? Like, oh, my God, he's going to yell at me. And you were fearless. You just said, look, his policies are wrong.

And at the end of the day, you literally scared him into retirement. and picked up a seat when people don't. And I watch that as go across the country. When you think of a Juan Ciscomonia, John James, Michelle Steele, Young Kim, Lowy Chavez Dreamer, these are people that are in tough seats, but they're also a lot of people think, you're a Republican? You're not supposed to be a Republican, you know, if you have a different color skin, what do you mean?

I'm an American that believes in family, that believes in the border, that believes in fiscal responsibility, believes in a strong defense. and you know what that cuts across their place off and the interesting thing like in Biden Biden's numbers now he's losing the youth vote that hasn't happened since right yes the Hispanic vote is this is where you and you're yeah Rachel has been yes before Rachel was ever on TV she was out there working the Hispanic community for us and everybody dreamed that this would be a possibility well the first Mexican-born woman ever elected to Congress is a Republican Myers running a

Again, right? And we're winning along those border states. That's because our policies are better. And, you know, the policies are better, but you also did a great job of going, we're not going to come in from Washington, D.C., and try to pick who we think is the best candidate. You organically got the best candidates that reflected the districts, but also had the right, you know, philosophy and in theory about how we should govern. They were conservatives. Again, Juan Siscomani, I met him when he was running. You introduced me to him. And I'm like, that guy is impressive. And he won the seat. Young Kim in California. Again, people who match their districts who are great conservatives.

But that was not how it was the case. I mean, you were the driver of that policy of going, we're not going to decide. The districts will decide. We're going to have people who reflect their communities. And that was the Kevin McCarthy change. You look at Kevin Lincoln. Kevin Lincoln happens to be African American and Hispanic.

He is the mayor of Stockton. He was a Marine. Marine for Marine One. He ran for mayor, never being elected before. This is a city that's a Democratic city in California. Overwhelmed. He wins it, right? Takes out an incumbent mayor. He's running for Congress today.

A lot of people say, he's going to win. What you do is you find good people. You ask them why they want to run, and then you give them the support they need, and the community will actually get behind them. And this, one last point on that, Kevin McCarthy always, he told me and he tells everybody, if you do your work, if you work your districts and you raise the money, you will not be left behind. But don't think that, you know, and someone else is going to come in and save you, we as Republicans believe in you doing the work and then we'll add to it.

And again, that's how you see these candidates. They're outraising money. They're trying to get into the Young Guns program, which, You started with Eric Cantor and Paul Ryan, where money helps our campaigns. But it's been a smart philosophy and philosophical change. Kevin McCarthy, I know I'm over time with you. I appreciate you taking a little time off the road between fundraisers and road travel to join me on the Wulcane show. You have been a great friend and an example of what Republican leadership should look like.

Thank you so much. Well, it's an honor to be with you. And I know Father's Day is coming up, but I hope the children get you a gold chain with a little shot on it. look good on your neck. I'm looking for my father's day present from Kevin McCarthy. He never stops giving you garbage. Kevin McCarthy. I'll get the gold chain for you next time.

All right, man. Have a good one. Thank you. All right. We'll be right back after this break. We're going to have, again, the hottest, smartest woman at Fox News, joining the Will Kane show. Rachel Campo Steffey, after this break.

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Welcome back to The Will Cain Show. I am Sean Duffy in for Will Cain. As I've been teasing all hour, I have the hottest and smartest woman at Fox News with me right now. She would also be my wife, the great, the fantastic and beautiful Rachel Campos Duffy. And I don't see her quite yet. If she's going to pop up on the screen. So listen, Rachel is in the house right now. And unless I'm there to do tech for her, she usually doesn't do it but now I see she's got the tech right I figured it out she's I can hear you you made it good job I made it I made it without you but you're right I am very tech challenge and it's it's I'm kind of a boomer I'm not a gen Xer when it comes to tech I'm definitely a boomer and but I figured it out and we're here and by the way great interview with Kevin McCarthy um I thank you I have always felt like his contribution to the conference has been underappreciated by the media, even by the base. You know, he brought a lot of experience. And more importantly, as you said, he never left anybody

behind when it came to fundraising, which is the worst part of running for Congress. That guy has been in every single person's district. He has helped people. He has built the party out. He has created a big tent situation where we have lots of Republicans in California and New York because of him. And I like California Republicans. I always have, starting with Reagan. And he's one of them. And I've always thought he was an excellent leader.

But again, you don't have a Republican majority without all of the seats Kevin McCarthy help pick up in California or in New York. And it's a really important point. I think you're right. He is undervalued and appreciated because a lot of the way, at least the House operation works right now can all go back to giving Kevin McCarthy credit.

And again, the diverse background of, and again, I want good philosophical conservatives running. We have that. But also, I mean, you look at the Hispanic members we have. He mentioned Juan Siskiamani down on the southern border, but there's a whole

slew of diverse people that are now in the party because Kevin McCarthy changed things up. I was like, we're not going to pick the same old white guy. We're going to pick the right people that can win these races that are good conservatives? Well, I think it has a lot to do with the fact that he does come from California. So if you're in California and you're a Republican, you understand that a big part of the Republican base and a big part of like people who just relate to your policies are Hispanics.

And he has always understood the value of Hispanics for the party and how they were a growth demographic. And so when he saw that opening, you know, when John, when Joe Biden opened up the border and he ran someone like Myra Flores, and he's running her again, you know, she's running again now. I mean, he saw this opening in these Star Counties in southern Texas and in southern Arizona. You know, these are districts that are largely Hispanic that were being crushed by Joe Biden's economy and Joe Biden's open border policy. He saw the opening and he put a lot of time and love and attention and recruiting people from that community who could represent the values and the interests of those people. And he's always understood that.

And I think he's, again, I think he's been very underappreciated. You know, my advice to him would have been, I would have released all the J-6 tapes. I think that would have given him a lot more goodwill with some of his naysayers. And it needs to be done anyway. And Mike Johnson was elected, and he still hasn't done that. So, you know, there are some things he could have done, I think, to ingratiate himself a little bit more to the hardcores. But, again, across the board, he's underappreciated for. for what he has done for fundraising and for recruitment.

And that is really fundamental stuff when it comes to being the leader of the conference. You know, he mentioned the Hispanic vote. And I know that's a hot topic today because the Hispanic vote is almost 50-50, you know, in some polling. Whoever thought that could happen? It's so awesome.

But in our house, the Hispanic vote has been a topic of conversation for about 20 years because Rachel is Hispanic. I thought it was interesting. And so we weren't sure, again, we sit around our kitchen table. And before we go to bed at night, we talk about, you know, what is Donald Trump? What kind of response is he going to get in the Bronx when he goes? And you had the chance to go the day before to see what people thought about the former president coming to their community, to have a rally with them, to see them, to listen to them.

And were you as shocked as I was from your stories about what you heard when you went to the Bronx? And what did you hear? Well, I knew there was, I knew there was. interest in him coming. I knew that there would be people who were upset at Joe Biden. And so there could be some of that. But it was just so overwhelming, Sean. There was overwhelming interest, curiosity, love, support for him. And I knew that he was going to have a huge turnout, which he did. And I knew that it was not AstroTurf because I went down and spoke to random people for a long time. I was on the corner talking to dozens and dozens of people. And there was

genuine interest. People look back fondly on the on the Donald Trump days. The bodega came up, by the way. You mentioned that with Kevin McCarthy. That was a Dominican elderly man working at a bodega and he was attacked and he defended himself and he was treated like the criminal. And that just like goes against all your senses. By the way, you guys also talked about the youth vote. I mean, it's really worth noting that has never happened before that Democrats are losing, you know, in big numbers, the youth vote. And even in the black vote, within the black vote, you know, the majority of the black vote that is interested in Donald Trump that wants to vote for Donald Trump, it's mostly young people. Older people are still sort of they vote the way they used to. Young people are breaking away.

And I think this has long-term implications for elections in our country, just as I think the Hispanic vote now being 50-50 and possibly, you know, in the grasp of Donald Trump's to win. That's game-changing. Once you cast a vote for somebody in a different party, you become a swing voter for the rest of your life or possibly even, you know, a member of that other party. That happened in my own family, but that will happen across the board. if you get young people to vote for Donald Trump who are minorities in their formative 20s and 30s, I mean, it's game-changing. They're always going to start to look at candidates rather than parties, and that's important. And it's interesting, you know, Joe Biden's tried to buy the youth vote with the student loan forgiveness,

which since he's been doing, spending billions of taxpayer dollars, it's a transfer of wealth. His numbers with the youth vote haven't gone up. And at the same time, young Americans, they're having a hard time. buying a new house if they're a new married couple or paying the rent. Again, they're seeing how hard it is to buy a new or a used car because interest rates have spiked gas, the grocery store. They're getting hit six ways to Sunday, and they're like, it wasn't this bad under Donald Trump or the generation ahead of me

seem to have it a lot better than I do. They're old to buy a house, and I'm 29 years old, and I'm like, I can't see in my future when I can ever afford to buy a house. And I think that's what really has come down. is what kind of American dream do they get compared to what they saw their parents or older friends have? Yeah, I think I think that's exactly it. They're looking at what their parents have and have accomplished and have accrued financially. They look at where their parents were when they were at the same age.

And they're like, what happened to the American dream? You know what I've noticed? And again, this is something that if you don't have older kids, you don't tend to hear these kinds of conversations that are happening on social needs. and among young people, they're really mad at the boomers. There is a, you know, you talk about there's class warfare, you know, like I've always thought, Sean, that, you know, the racial thing is a masquerade for the class warfare that goes on in our country,

that, you know, there's the working class, and then there's the very rich and elite who are, you know, somehow are able to benefit from the system, but they have everyone fighting over race to sort of paper over the class issues. Well, it's interesting, in the same vein, When I'm seeing, hearing from young people are conversations about why they're mad at the boomers. They see the boomers is very selfish, that they've, you know, got all these entitlements for that Medicare, Medicaid, that they, you know, ran up the credit card for the country. We're now in $34 trillion in debt.

And yet they're all, most of these boomers are sitting on wealth in the form of their homes. And now you've got private equity firms coming up and able to buy homes. And then you have, you know, boomer, W.E.F, World Economic Forum type globalists who are saying you'll own nothing and you'll be happy. And they've sort of absorbed the wealth. And the rules of the game have changed for young people. And they feel like they're getting the scraps off the table. And so I have never heard so many young people speak disparagingly of a generation, you know, of the boomers. And yeah, I think I think that's, it's really interesting. It's tearing the country apart because sort of the promise of America is that, you know, the American dream and that you could, you know, work hard.

You go to school. You get educated. You do all these things and you'll get out ahead. But the way the system is right now, and some of it, of course, is Joe Biden's policy policies. But there is this hangover, right? This debt, you know, money printing, which caused inflation and all these things that boomers have done to our economy. into our country, that young people are becoming aware of the fact that they're the ones that are going to have to pay for that. And it's causing a political realignment. We have to go in a second. But again, we usually saw Republicans align with, you know, wealthy Americans, the business class, Democrats, our minority and working class, that has been absolutely thrown out the window because the elites are liberals.

They're wealthy. They have power. They have access. and it's been through Donald Trump that the working class, go, listen, I have values, I still may go to church, I want my kids to have a good school. I don't think we should transition, you know, little kids at 14 years old, their sex. I think we should have a strong military. We shouldn't let these woke policies come into the military. Some very, you know, basic American concepts that they still hold. They're patriotic, and the liberal elites don't hold that. Donald Trump is the one who has flipped it on its head.

and now you see all these blue-collar, middle-income, minority, youth, voters go, you know what? I actually think I'm a Republican. And we're just, I think, whether at the start or the middle of this transition in the country. But maybe they just think, like, I'm, you know, I think that's why Donald Trump is so singular, Sean, because I don't, I wish that the Republican brand was better and that people who aren't voting for Democrats. We're going, hey, I'm a Republican. I don't think the brand's that strong, Sean. I really think it's the force of Donald Trump

because Donald Trump isn't really accepted by the Republican Party. He is not their preferred candidate of the establishment. Well, the base he is. The base, not the establishment. Correct. But again, when you talk about the multicultural movement towards Donald Trump,

the reason it's multicultural is that there's nothing to do with race. It's exactly what you said. it's the working class and the working class in America is white, brown, and black and those and they're coming together because of their class issues

the fact that the economy is not working for the working class right now it's not working for the middle class and so in any case I think it's Donald Trump is the outsider the person who can take on I mean look at everything he's taken on this week

I mean Sean a normal person would be falling apart. A normal person would be, you know, I always say to you, I would be put in the funny farm. If the kinds of injustices and the intel, you know, state and the justice system and two impeachments and the laptop suppression and all these things had come down and being spied on by Obama and Hillary Clinton before he even started your administration, I mean, all of these things that have come on to him, if they had come onto you, Sean, and I as your spouse,

I mean, I would, you would have to send me to the funny farm. I cannot even take the amount of abuse and injustice that Donald Trump and his family has endured. And yet, he's still standing. He's beaten every odds. He didn't just win the primary. He won the primary with record numbers with everything against it, the media, the Hollywood culture, again, the military, the, the, the military power brokers, the government power brokers, the deep state, everything against him, but he's still winning and winning big. And so I think people see Donald Trump as an outsider and sort of the last chance we have to, you know, bring back America to what it used to be, you know, to get rid of all the censorship, to get rid of, you know, the power of the deep state, the power of the intel organizations, and to start focusing on America instead of all these wars that end up benefiting, again, this elite class

that lives around Washington, D.C. You know, it makes me think of just this quote, Archie Griffin, his quote is, it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog, and Donald Trump has a lot of fight. Well, you know, listen, Rachel, I just, if you listen to Kevin McCarthy's interview,

He said, for Father's Day, you have to get me a gold chain. You know what? I thought it was actually a great idea. And I've wanted to do that for a while. But you've resisted. I brought that up. And you said, it's too Latino, it's too Italian. But now that I see you with this open shirt, I'm like, maybe you've been in Jersey long enough that you're ready for the gold chain with the cross, with the crucifix.

I am not New Jersey. I am Wisconsin through and true. I know, but you're Catholic and you're married to a Latina. and you actually need a gold crucifix around that next. We'll discuss that off the air. Rachel Campos Duffy, hottest, smartest. How about a Celtic cross? Woman at Fox.

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