Will Cain Country - Will's Top 3 Issues For The ‘State Of The Union’
Episode Date: March 7, 2024Story #1: Will gives his ‘State of The Union’ preview. The over/unders on Biden gaffes, senior moments, and needless whispers. How did we do as a country from last year’s ‘State of the Union...?’ And the Top 3 issues he’d like to see addressed tonight. Story #2: Why is there hate from the Left? Not because you are conservative, white, and rural, but because you are not a sheep. Story #3: Live from The American Western Weekend! Cowboy Dawson Hay competes for $1 million against his brother. Plus, the ‘Marlboro Man’ and greatest bull rider of all time, J.B. Mauney. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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One, the state of the Union over under.
on, come on, I'm not joking, whispers, and threats to democracy.
My grade after a year of Joe Biden's last state of the union, what I want to hear tonight
from President Biden.
Two, you wonder why there's hate.
It's not because you might be conservative.
It's not because you might be white.
It's not because you're rural.
It's because you won't conform to consensus because you won't stay with the herd.
It's because you're not a sheep.
And three, live from the American Western weekend.
Cowboy Dawson Hayes competes for a million dollars against his brother and the Marlborough man.
One of the greatest of all time, J.B. Mooney, right here on the Will Kane show.
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Coming up today, we are sitting here live
from the home of the World Series Champion, Texas Rangers,
Globe Life Field.
But this weekend, it's home to the American World.
Western weekend. It will have performances on Friday night from Luke Bryan. It will have
a performance on Saturday night from Post Malone. You should definitely make your way out to Arlington,
Texas for the American Western weekend. We tried to get Post Malone. We tried to get Luke Brian,
but we weren't able to. But you know who we were able to get? One of the greatest of all time.
The Marlboro man who may or may not light up a cigarette and wear his cowboy hat right here
sit next to me on the Will Cain Show. Coming up in just a minute, we're going to be hanging out
with J.B. Mooney. And speaking of rodeos, tonight is the state of the union. We should set
over-unders together. We should first of all set an over-under on how long it will go. How long
will we have to sit through the state of the union? In the past, we might have set that over-under
at an hour, maybe even an hour of 15. And I will grant you that the doctors have concocted the
perfect combination, the perfect cocktail of Adderall and Pro Vigil to have the president
amped up enough to make a horsewalk on two legs. He will be ready to go. But I would still set the
over-unders for stumbles and slurs and come-on-mans pretty high. I'll tell you what, before this
show's over, we're going to set the over-under for, I'm not joking. But I want to revisit, before we
hear from the President of the United States tonight in the stadium, I want to revisit what we did here
together on The Will Kane Show one year ago. What I wanted to hear for America and give a grade
for what we've fulfilled or what we failed in the past 12 months. One year ago, we sat here together
and I said I wanted to see five things from the President of the United States when it comes
to the state of the Union. Number one, I said I wanted to have America overcome its racial
reckoning, that we can move back to seeing each other as individuals based on our character
and merit and not our superficial identity.
F, we have been divided and flamed on every line in society,
and we only have leaned into that with greater hatred.
And the promise of the next seven months is that that will be a tool to make us
divided against one another once again in order for certain people to retain power.
Number two, I want accountability for COVID.
I want to look back on why our schools were shut down, why our kids were kicked out of
campus, why our businesses had to stop operating, and why we were mandated of medicine.
And sadly, I'll tell you, there's been no accountability, and there will be no accountability.
In one of the most criticized elements of not just Joe Biden, but of President Trump,
America will never see accountability for COVID. That's a sad admission. And when it comes down
to round two of Trump versus Biden, what will go by the Wade side as roadkill will be holding
everyone accountable for a pandemic of fear. F. Third, I wanted to talk about, I wanted to see promise
on people's pocketbooks. Inflation, everywhere you go, everything more expensive. Inflation
attacks not just on the middle class, but a tax on the poorest. And the Biden administration
will talk about the economy. They will tell you that things are better. The stock market rallies
and falls. It ebbs and it flows. They'll tell you that economic data and unemployment are headed
in the right direction, but I'll tell you, you talk to anybody, and they feel like inflation
is sitting on the top of a pile of timber. At any moment, it could fire right back up, and
that'll keep interest rates from ever coming down. So on that, I'll give a C plus for at least
holding it off. We'll see about the future. I wanted to then see how America would deal with
the world. When we turn to thinking about America first, when we put our priorities over those
from other countries. We've obviously not accomplished that goal. And in the meantime, we've managed
to see Russia roll through Europe, Hamas roll through Israel, and everywhere you turn. Although
CNN just last this week told you, you're going to see Russian tanks rolling through Europe
if you get a President Trump under a President Biden. The world is at the edge of war. F.
And finally, I wanted someone to provide hope. There's hope here. The American people are good.
We always have been.
It's represented by what you see behind you.
Dirt, cowboys, risk, risk tolerance, entrepreneurs, frontiersmen, pioneers.
Every step of the way, that's who we are.
And somebody needs to recognize it and provide us hope
and understanding who we are as America.
Fox News Power Ranking poll says
the 69% of Americans think Joe Biden has failed to unify America.
F.
So as we look at what happens tonight with the State of the Union, I will say this.
I'm going to give you some numbers.
Here we go.
Here's my over-under.
25 minutes on the length.
There's only a limit to how much provisional and Adderall can do.
25 minutes.
I will say six slurs, slumbles, stumbles, and indecipherable words.
Let's count them down, in fact.
I will say five threats to democracy.
I will say four invocations of Russia.
Three, come on, two, I'm not joking.
And one, lean into the microphone and whisper a very serious point.
There's my overowners for tonight's state of the union.
And this year, 2024, here's what I want to hear.
I want to hear somebody talk about closing the southern border.
I want the understanding and recognition that our southern border is not an issue of race or xenophobia,
that our southern border is an issue of security.
Security to our jobs.
Security to our children that want to go for a jog at the University of Georgia.
Security for the inevitable threat of somebody walking over that border
that intends to do harm the way we saw 23 years ago today in New York City.
I want to see a serious solution to closing our southern border.
I want to see someone talk about making the federal government smaller.
Not as a cliche, not as a conservative talking point, not because it's something we always say,
because smaller is freer.
Smaller is cheaper.
That's how you bring in inflation.
Because smaller is saner.
This thing is out of control.
And it's a car driving down the highway without a steering wheel, only pick an upspeed, or it's a bull without a rider.
Latched on, or a rider latched on and can't get off after eight seconds.
This thing is chaos.
It's out of control.
Most importantly, smaller is freer.
And that's what I want to hear finally.
I want to hear, just like last year, how we're going to lean into who we are as Americans.
Unleash corporations to get back to being those frontiers and those entrepreneurs.
Unleash the individual out there who wants to start up a business.
Get the government out, regulations and taxes.
Cut this thing by 30%.
Take it from Vivek, Grandma Swama.
You can cut a third of fat off this thing.
And I want to see somebody understand that we're men, that we are individuals, we're not members of an identity, we're not groups, we're individuals.
You know, right now, New York City is talking about putting the National Guard in the subway to keep it safe.
The same New York Times columnist Marigay, who endorses this year, a few years ago when Tom Cotton said send in the military to stop the riots across this country, said that was an attack against minorities.
Now she wants the National Guard on the subway.
We have rights. We have property rights to our businesses, to our streets, to our homes. We need criminals put away from interfering from those property rights. And we want to be treated like men, free men. That's what I want to hear in tonight's state of the union. But until then, after then, all this weekend in Arlington, Texas, and until then tonight, we're going to focus in on that American spirit. We're going to focus in on the
American Western Weekend live right here from Globe Life Field.
And that's going to take us to story number one.
He is one of the greatest bull riders of all time.
He is raw.
He's authentic.
You never know what you're going to get, but you're pretty sure it's going to be real.
It's J.B. Mooney here on the Wheel Cane Show.
What's up, J.B.?
Thanks for having me.
So your State of the Union?
No.
I'm kidding.
We're not going to talk, Pop.
We're not going to talk politics.
But, you know, J.B., if you're from North Carolina, you now live here in Texas, you know, I'll tell you this.
Can I just ask you this?
This isn't political.
I'm not even sure it's cultural.
I don't think there's any sport that is more quintessentially American than rodeo.
There's not.
I agree 100% with you.
Maybe the only debate would be football.
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure rodeo dated back farther than that.
And it just, to me, exemplifies exactly what I just talked about.
I mean, it's the edge.
It's risk tolerance.
It's frontiersmen.
It's cowboy.
Tell me what you think of rodeo and how it represents America.
Oh, you just the way I go about everything in my entire life, the old school way.
You know, this is, guys go out a little different nowadays.
They're more kind of the athlete's side of things, you know, trying to eat right and working out, things like that.
But it's still, once you crawl off in that bucking shoe,
it's still the old school mentality
and let it all hang out on the line.
So you're talking about the guys
turned into athletes and eating right
and you're still smoking Marlboros?
Yeah, I didn't grow out of that.
So is that a pre-shoot
and post-bucking off?
Give me your routine.
I'm going to be honest with you in the audience,
like the minute this show is over,
Zen goes in.
I don't know if you know what Zen is.
Oh, yeah, I know where Zen is.
As soon as this show's over with
and I step out those doors,
I'll fire one up.
And I smoked one right before I can.
come through those doors.
And how quickly after you get off the bull?
Oh, I had to make it to the locker room, which they frowned upon.
But intros were really pretty good because I liked it.
It was dark.
They always had the smoke.
They just blended in, so I could get by with it in.
The other part of you that's old school is, and you did it at the beginning of your career,
you wore the helmet.
And very few guys have kept the cowboy hat.
But you went back to the cowboy hat.
I mean, obviously, and you've experienced,
I don't know that the helmet would have saved you,
but you've experienced some of the risk of not wearing a helmet.
Why did you go back to the cowboy hat on the bull?
Oh, my parents made me wear one when I was little,
and it was more or less habit than it, you know.
It was always in my rigging bag.
I always grabbed it just like I would my bull rope, you know,
when I was getting ready.
And I can't remember what year it was 2011 or something.
I wasn't riding very good.
and we were buck and practice bulls at the house,
and I never picked it up.
I left it laying on my bag.
I got on, rode that day and got off,
and the guy said, man, that looked good.
It felt good.
He goes, you're just going to quit wearing it?
I was like, what are you talking about?
He said, you didn't wear your helmet.
It don't know.
Like, I had no clue.
I didn't even put it on.
And I was like, that's right.
And I never put it back on.
Never put it back on.
So it wasn't you were making a point about being old school.
You just rode well with the hat.
I felt like I didn't lose vision of them.
them right in my eyesight.
The only, with a helmet, you're peripheral, you can't see sight, you know, you're kind
of pretty much zoned in.
So, you know, when I didn't wear, it's almost like I never lost sight of those bulls.
No matter where they were at, I could still see them out of the corner of my eye.
So I'm going to follow up on that.
So when you're, you know, this is a weird sport in that, I don't know how you practice.
Like, I know you live, you know, an hour and a half away from you.
here in Stephenville, Texas, and I know you're raising bulls and you've got a ranch,
but, I mean, the danger of the sport makes it so, I don't know, you can't get on bulls every
day and ride, can you?
I did.
I mean, that's, you know, that's the only true form of practice you can actually do to help
make you a better bull rider.
I mean, they have drop barrels, you know, simulations, but it's not like the real thing.
You know, a drop barrel does the same exact thing every time, just up and down.
You can work on minor things on that, but the only way, the way I looked at it, the only way I was going to get better was to get on Bulls every day, and that's what I try to do.
So eight seconds for us watching feels like eight seconds. What does eight seconds feel like on a bull?
Just depends on how it's going. If it's going smooth, it rolls by pretty fast, like sitting in a rocking chair.
But if it's going, you're out of shape and getting all that power. It takes a long time for that whistle.
Eight seconds, a lot of things in your life, you can fit into eight seconds?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
A bad ride, you can fit a whole pile of stuff in eight seconds,
because this seems like it just like it's in slow motion.
So, take me back to that slow motion.
You talked about what you could see with the hat versus the helmet.
I mean, again, to us, it looks like chaos, and you're just riding a tornado,
but you're watching this beast, what, 1,500-pound beast?
I don't know.
Just depends.
some of them bigger.
You're watching him, and by the way,
if anybody hasn't watched,
they're athletes.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, what the way they move,
their bodies, it defies reality,
gravity and every other word I could throw in.
And you're watching what?
Like, what cues are you looking at down to that bull
to see which way he's going to go?
Well, you don't really watch their head
because them bulls will swing their head one way
and go the opposite direction.
So you kind of look where their hump is
or right there at the front of their shoulder.
You try to just keep your eyesight there.
That keeps your chin down.
If your chin ever gets up, you get rear back.
That's when you get on all the power.
And more or less, you ride them off the field.
You don't watch.
Like when they turn into your leg, you'll fill them.
And that's why you have to work on body position all the time.
You're constantly moving when you're riding bulls
because your legs are what pulls you around.
You know, when that bull turns back, you know, you got your head down,
but when he turns, it hits that leg.
Well, that pulls you.
And it's pretty much like dancing.
He makes a move.
You follow him.
So look, I'm all hat, no cattle.
I'm a pretend cowboy.
I grew up an hour north of here, small town, and, you know, been on horseback plenty.
I'm super ashamed that every time there's a mechanical bull on Fox and Friends, which I host on the weekends, I'm one of the worst.
And I watched eight seconds.
I know what to do.
I know squeeze with the inside of my legs.
I know lean, you know, get on top of my fist.
I think I'm saying the right things.
And I know, you know, I don't want to be leaning too far forward,
but I don't want to be too far back.
But there's something about that slick mechanical bull.
J.B., I'm an embarrassment.
I have to show you.
I recently bought one.
We found it on Facebook, and so I went and bought it,
and we've got it set up.
My little boy, you can turn that thing wide open,
and he'll ride it as long as you have someone sitting there running the controls.
He'll ride that thing all day.
So you're from North Carolina.
What got you into this?
Were you out here mutton busting at rodeos in North Carolina?
Like, why did you start riding bulls?
My dad still wrestled, and shoot, I think I was three when I started riding sheep.
I always rode horses, was always carrying a rope around,
and they started letting me get on sheep,
and then it went into calves and then steers, junior bulls,
and I was 13 when I started getting on big bulls.
And parents did not like that so much, but they got used to it, I guess.
So I mentioned you're not.
If North Carolina, you live now in Texas, I don't know where we are currently.
I don't know if half the guys on the PBR or Competence Weekend or Brazilian, we're the best
cowboys.
Where are the best bull riders?
You know, everybody thinks Texas Cowboys, but when I was 15, 16, 17, 18, we could go to
an open bull riding in North Carolina almost every day of the week and never go past four hours
from my house, an open board ride.
And, you know, it, that was the place to be back then.
It's changed a lot now.
There's not as many bull riders over there as there was then.
And I'd say the way it's looking, Brazil's got the, I call it, the more hungry guys coming, you know.
And they're different, right?
Like, you're fairly tall.
You're 5'10.
You're pretty light.
I always think I've been told I've got the worst build for a bull rider.
Like I'm 6 to 180.
But those Brazilian dudes are big.
My point is most Bull Riders are not very big guys.
Yeah, most of them are not very big.
But except the Brazilians.
Yeah, some of them are big.
They work out constantly.
I mean, they're stout.
I relied more on balance than strength, if you can't tell.
And, you know, those guys, they work out so much, and they're so strong that, you know,
if they do get out of position, they can hunker down and just muscle through it.
You're not going to muscle that 18.
hundred pound bull. I don't care how strong you are. So eventually something's going to give.
And where I never worried about working out, I worked enough during the day, messing with bulls
and working bulls that I figured I didn't need to go to a gym. I'd never seen anything in a gym
that had to do with riding the bulls, so I didn't go. I mentioned it earlier. I don't know that the
helmet would have saved you, but you've been retired. You said since September. September.
Broke your neck. First of all, let's get the rundown of the injuries throughout your career.
Don't shoot. How long is this show?
There's no time limit.
We'll be here all day if I'm trying to list back because it started when I started getting on Bulls.
What's the worst? I mean, I know the most recent one, but if I said to you give me the three or four worst, what would they be?
Oh, when I was 18, Bulls stepped on my stomach, broke all my ribs on my right side, lacerated my liver.
They said it should have killed me.
Pretty much tore this arm completely off. Skin was the only thing.
holding it on. I got a first surgery. They, Candy Freeman in Dallas here, put a screw,
13 anchors in it to reattach everything. That was the first surgery. Had to go back in about
two and a half years later and have a second surgery and I'm pretty sure I need a third one
because I'm pretty sure I ripped some stuff back loose. And that was the hardest one to come
over. Lacerated my kidney. By far the shoulder was the hardest one to come over, overcome
because this was my free arm.
This was my balance arm.
Everybody thinks this is the most important one, but it's not.
The one you hold on with, this main job is to stay shut.
I mean, that's pretty simple.
This one controls where your upper body goes.
You get it out of shape, you're hitting the ground, not too far after that.
So a couple flops on the injury.
So you get stepped on here.
Do you have the vest on?
Oh, yeah.
Because, again, you know, my bull riding knowledge extends to Lane Frost
and eight seconds and tough heat of him.
But no, I watch you.
By the way, when you came out, the fact that you were from North Carolina was, look, I'm, I know not every Cowboys from Texas in it, but Montana, Canada, Brazil, and then now increasingly like Australia, Justin.
Oh, yeah.
Isn't Jess Lockwood?
Well, he's Montana.
He's Montana.
Kai Hamilton.
Kai is Australia.
But I didn't, I hadn't, I wasn't used to seeing somebody from North Carolina.
Oh, yeah.
So, but in eight seconds, I mean, that's, it was a, it was a horn, but it was this area.
That's what killed Lane Frost.
Yeah, it just had a horn.
hit his ribs, broke that rib, and that ribs stuck through the main artery going through his heart.
And then the shoulder, you said everything but the skin, the skin was holding it on?
Like, I didn't realize that's your off arm. Like, what is that? It gets slung too hard while you were...
No, I was in Canada at the Calgary Stampede.
Rubbleau, whistle blew, and I was a little out of shape when the whistle blew, and I figured I was getting ready to get hung up.
My hand wasn't going to come out the way I tied it in.
I've meant for it to be in there, and I wasn't going to have time to reach down and pull my tail.
I was headed to the ground, or my ropes slipped across that bull's bag.
And I guess as I was going down, I put my arm out to catch myself.
When I got close to the ground, he kicked at me, caught me in this armpit,
so all my weight and his weight went down on this, and it popped my shoulder out the bottom side
and just poured completely over there.
And I'm always because you know everything right away.
You knew this is not dangling.
It didn't really hurt at first because I was asleep.
He knocked me out also, so I woke up and I couldn't figure out, like, I wasn't out very long.
Like, I didn't have a concussion.
I knew exactly what was going on, but I couldn't see.
I had a straw hat on in summertime, and it was smashed into my face.
I didn't know where the bull was at.
I'm trying to get up.
I couldn't figure out why I couldn't put my arm in front of me.
I was holding myself up with this one trying to do that, and it wouldn't last.
Man, I must have broke my arm.
Drenaline was running, so you don't feel it.
And they got to me, and they said, you need to stop moving.
I said, take my hat off.
They pulled it off, and I went like this, couldn't move it.
I looked over, and it was down here, and I was like, all right, I couldn't move it.
And then we were talking about, so retired because you broke your neck in September.
You said you'd still be riding if you hadn't broke your neck,
but the doctor said the next one's paralysis or death.
Yeah.
And I said, so I asked you, so you break your neck, and you knew immediately, how do you know?
I don't know some weird sense I have because every time I've ever been injured I knew exactly what was wrong with me like I broke my back when you're in South Dakota walked out of the arena Tandy asked me he said you all right I said no I just broke my back right between the shoulder blades you sure yeah I'm pretty sure T1 T2 was fractured and at night when it happened my legs were shot I've been beat I mean beat and when I showed up it happened in Lewiston Idaho when I got there
I broke my left leg, about six inches, the small bone.
I broke it earlier, probably a month or so before that.
So my left leg was broke, my left foot was broke, and my right ankle was broke when I got to Lewiston.
And the first thing, when I come off of him, he caught me with his hip,
kind of twisted me around.
Well, when I hit the ground, I thought, man, thank God he didn't step on my legs.
And when I rolled over, I pushed with my arms to get up.
And I just broke my neck.
And I got up, and I was trying not to do.
used my arms trying to keep everything, and I was walking on my knees, and I got up.
Buddy of mine jumped off the bucket shoes, helped me back in the shoot, and that's the way he said,
you all right? I said, it just broke my neck.
Have you ever, I mean, you don't wear the helmet, so what about the face?
No. The teeth, the teeth, the teeth, the teeth. I'm missing, I'm missing, I'm missing a few.
Yeah.
Missing a few what? Teeth. It's a little harder to chew on the right side than it used to be.
Yeah, it was, I felt like I rode better without the helmet, but, uh, when you're
When it come to get hit in the face, it hurt a heck of a lot more.
I bet.
Is that on the back of his skull?
Dad or a horn, because, you know, everybody thinks the horns are the worst part.
The horns are not the worst part.
Their feet, you know.
The horn hurts.
I mean, you'll break stuff and get stitches, but the feet's where all the damage comes from
because you've got 1,600 pounds pushing them down.
And I think the first bull riding I went to after I quit wearing a helmet.
Bull Turnbag, I was riding him right at the whistle.
My feet went behind me.
He hit me across the side of my face right there and broke my eye socket, my cheek.
I walked around for about two weeks, look like somebody had slid a golf ball under my,
and it was a hematoma blood had filled up in there, so I walked around like that.
Why is it worth it?
All this.
Why is it worth eight seconds?
The feeling you get when you hit the ground and you make a great bull ride,
and everybody is screaming to the top of their lungs and hoping and hollering.
And what made it better for me is when you turn around and you look at all your buddies on the back of the shoots,
guys that also do it for a living, and they're just as pumped as the people sitting in the stands,
you know you've done something special.
Speaking of the guy, so I said it.
And so, you know, I don't take for granted everybody watching nose rodeo or watches bull riding.
It's a dumb question to ask you.
But I said at the outset, it's one of the greatest of all time.
I mean, you look for any list of bull riders, and, you know, your number one on a lot of lists,
your number one for your generation on almost every list.
But the other names are Tough Heedaman, and Chris Shivers and maybe Lane Frost.
Who is, and then you can go to older guys as well, by the way, who is the greatest bull rider of all time?
If you want to say it's J.B. Mooney, you can say it's J.B. Mooney.
I will never say that.
I had a job to do, and that was my job.
You know, if they want to, me being on those lists,
I did my job more times than not.
So I don't know, I looked up.
There's a lot of guys.
I never, it's hard to break it down.
Because, you know, world titles,
yeah, they hold a lot of accountability for being the best,
but, you know, Savano's won three world titles.
You know, you got Adriano,
but then Lane Frost, he did more for bull riding
after his accident, you know, eight seconds come out.
Jerome Davis, World Champion Boil Rider from North Carolina.
That's pretty much who I looked up to.
You know, I lived right by him.
He's paralyzed, you know, been in a wheelchair since I think 98 or 99.
And that, being around Jerome was what helped me, you know, because you're around a man that
did it for a living, what you're wanting to do, and you can see what happens right there.
Like one day it's here and next day it's gone and it makes you realize real fast that if you're going to do it, you better mean it.
So in the locker room, like we were talking about the size of bull riders.
Now, if I go in there, like, the wrestlers and the ropers are pretty big dudes.
Yeah.
But, like, is there an alpha pecking order in the locker room when everybody's there together?
You know, the older generation, they think the older the guys are, they think they've got to say so in there.
Me, I just kind of always stayed by myself.
I would always go into the shower part of the locker room because I smoke.
So I was always thinking about safety.
Well, if I caught anything on fire, I just turned a shower.
Always think about safety, the Bull Rider.
Yeah.
All right, last thing with you, J.V., so you and I walk into a bar.
You know, we're single.
We're young.
On a scale of like 10's a rock star and one's a librarian, where is the Bull Rider?
Hmm.
10.
10?
Rock star.
You and he's old, Ozzy Oswald, I don't know, walk into a bar.
We make you the same age and you and Eddie Van Halen walk into a bar and he's got nothing on you?
He might, yeah, but when I was younger, I lived life to the fullest.
I took every advantage because, you know, riding bulls for a living, you're not guaranteed the next day.
so I took advantage of that day every time.
I think it also matters where the bar is, right?
Also, yes, that does.
But we had good time everywhere we went.
Man, it lives to the fullest every eight seconds at a time.
Man, it's a real pleasure to meet you.
I'm a legitimate fan.
I follow him both in his career on TV, on Instagram.
He's got a million followers.
He's the real deal, meaning he's always real, as you can see.
And you'll enjoy keeping up with J.B. Moody.
Thank you so much.
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
All right, coming up, if you won't stay with the herd, if you won't conform to consensus.
If you won't be a sheep, then you'll now understand why there's so much hate.
That's coming up next on the Will Cain Show.
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You would be forgiven if you think it's a farce.
It's not real.
That democracy is simply a word they use in place of power.
For all the invocations of we must defend democracy,
it must save democracy, the defenders of democracy,
couldn't be more disappointed, that this thing is going to come down to a vote.
Biden Trump, round two.
Listen to Rachel Maddow a few nights before Super Tuesday talking about the fact that it wouldn't be saved by the Supreme Court.
There's no solution that is going to come say from the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court did the favor of reminding us all of that today when they ruled that Trump will stay on the ballot all over the country.
They gave us that reminder today after last week, they made sure we knew it in the first place when they somewhat inexplicably took action to delay all the Trump criminal trials except the one they couldn't stop until after the election.
There's no magic wand coming to stop this thing.
That's courtesy of MSNBC, and you can hear the disappointment in her voice.
You can hear the prior hope that this thing would be saved by the Supreme Court, the democracy would be saved by the least democratic part of our three-band.
branches of government. That was in response to the Supreme Court voting nine to nothing.
All of a sudden, Justice Sotomayor, Kagan, and Brown Jackson are Make America Great
again. All of a sudden, they're MAGA because they wouldn't interfere in democracy.
Maddow went on, saying, I guess we're just going to have to vote.
The courts are not going to help. The law will be a sidebar to the main decision. You will
make this decision. The only way this decision will be made is by you picking one. By you,
you volunteering and donating and campaigning and deciding it matters enough to you to not only vote,
but to help, to help your candidate try to win. The Republican Party really, really is amazing right now.
But the only thing that will stop them is Democrats winning instead, period, full stop.
As is the idea of a democracy, we choose, we the people. But what you have seen over the last week is I think
a poker hand laid on the table, you've seen all the cards, you've seen the real true sentiment
toward democracy, and I think you've seen the real true sentiment toward, well, fellow man.
You know, the only way this thing is going to overcome the apathy around Joe Biden is going
to be inflame our divisions and our passions, and that's going to require, starting tonight
with the State of the Union, dividing us once again on every societal line, race, gender,
whatever it may be. Obviously, threats to democracy. What they'll do is other. They have to find
something outside to unify their base inside. And that other has become you. There's a book out
right now called Rural White Rage. It blames everything. Race, xenophobia, anti-gay, anti-democratic.
It blames everything on one segment of society. Rural white voters. And again, on MSNBC the other
night, Jen Saki, Rachel Maddow and Joy Reid told you how they feel about these voters
and more importantly, how they feel about the issues that matter to these voters. Listen.
I mean, if you look at some of these exepoles, I mean, I live in Virginia. Immigration was the
number one issue. I mean, again, these could change in Virginia.
Well, Virginia does have a border with West Virginia. Very contestant.
But you're thinking like, what? Just absolutely disgraceful.
Virginia does have a border with West Virginia.
Chuckle, chuckle, chuckle, laugh.
Lake and Raleigh was killed by an illegal immigrant in Georgia.
An illegal immigrant in Virginia was just arrested for crimes against a 12-year-old.
In New York City, they've been in fights with police everywhere you turn.
And look, I will grant you that what I'm laying out to you is anecdotes,
but their anecdotes should amount to zero.
And they're clearly the biggest issue facing many voters who rank it number one,
the biggest issue facing Americans.
Americans. And to that, they laugh. They laugh at what's important to you. It would make you
wonder why. Why is there so much hatred? Why so much othering? And you'd be forgiven for
thinking, oh, it's because you know, because you disagree. Well, yeah, kind of. But it's not
because you have a different opinion. It's not because there's a different ideology. It's because
you're not conforming to the herd. I read recently that 70 to 80% of the population lives most
the time in a consensus state. That means whatever everybody else thinks is the safe place to be.
Not just the safe, it's the right place to be, as long as you fit into the herd. And of course,
if you are in a herd, you look at the strays and you have to villainize them from making that
decision. What are you not doing in the herd? And in fact, not only do you disagree with that
stray, you hate the stray. You hate the stray for pointing out that you're a sheep. That's where
this comes from. And you've seen it over and over on any issue. Any issue, you can pinpoint
this exact thing. How dare you fall outside the consensus? How dare you fall outside the
herd? And it's inherently anti-man, because we're not cheap. We're humans. We're independent
thinkers. At least that's the idea. But I have never seen anything more anti-man than I saw
from Stephen Colbert on CBS the other night talking about artificial intelligence. Here are the
poker cards laid on the table.
I'm not that worried about AI.
I just doesn't get my blood going to get worried about AI.
I think of some positive aspects of it.
I mean, I've seen how humans have handled history and not great.
And so I'm ready for the big machines that make big decisions programmed by fellows with compassion and vision.
You know, I'm ready for the machines to tell us what to do.
That's everything.
That's everything.
man doesn't have a good history looking at our flaws not our achievements rather be programmed by
machines of compassionate elites that know better than you or I how we should be controlled and finally
turning control over individually to those machines that's the poker cards that's the full hand
that's the hatred of man and how far they've come from that civil rights slogan I am a man
The American Western weekend is behind me at Globe Life Field here in Arlington, Texas.
It kicks off this weekend.
Luke Bryan Friday night, post-Malone Saturday night, bull riders and rodeo riders,
but also cutting horse competitions.
It's a full weekend celebration of American Western culture.
And when we come back, we're going to talk to a young cowboy who's competing for a million dollars against his brother right here on the Will Kane show.
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There's an awesome weekend ahead.
If you are in Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana,
drive on over to Dallas.
Headed to Arlington for the American Western weekend
where you have a rodeo, you have concerts
from Luke Ryan and Post Malone,
and you have Western Horse Weekend as well
with cutting horse competitions,
and you will see young men like my next guest, Dawson Hay,
who will be in a Saddle Bront competition this weekend.
Welcome to the Wheel Cane Show. What's up, man?
How's it going? Thanks for a wrap.
So I don't want to take anything for granted.
Anybody watch it?
I want you to tell me what is Saddle Brank versus Bearback
versus every other horse competition in a rodeo?
So they call Saddle Brank riding like the classic event of rodeo.
It was one of the first events.
It, you know, goes back to when they're training wild horses that they caught out on the range.
And then it became a competition, you know, so you can stay on the, for the eight seconds.
And then, you know, spurring got involved.
And I think bearback riding came a little later.
It was, I think bearback riding used to be with a rope, kind of like a bull rope.
And then it turned into a suitcase handle rigging.
And, yeah, basically, that's it.
So with Saddle Brunk, you are, it's a really small,
saddle. It's not a traditional western saddle you're sitting in, but it's got stirrups that your
feet are in the whole time, right? Yeah. And then you're rope, like you said. Um, and then, I mean,
what do I know? It, I mean, it looks like clearly the strategy is like when he goes down,
you're, you're extended when he comes up, you come, you come up with your legs? Yeah, so it's a
modified saddle. The earlier ones had, they just cut the horns off the normal saddles. And then
over the years, they've evolved into a, it's a tighter fitting saddle.
It's got no horn and it's got stirrups that are free to move from front to back.
So in the saddle bronch riding, and you got your bronch rain as well that you have to use with one hand.
So when the horse leaves the shoot, you have to reach up and have your feet in front of the shoulders
by the time that horse lands.
And then after that, when the horse comes up, your feet go back.
And when he breaks over, you try and get your feet to the front as quick as possible.
and the better your toes are turned out,
and the better you handle your rain
all goes into your style points on the front track.
I don't think I've ever been to a rodeo
where somebody hasn't watched.
So we should say,
Dawson's married.
He's got a young girl over here
just off a young child right here,
his daughter right off camera.
So the point of the next question
is it's all going to be okay,
but I've never been to a rodeo
where somebody hasn't watched what you guys do
and go for the guys.
Now, I heard you said it cut off the horn,
but, I mean,
So you guys are, you're taking some shots, Dawson.
Oh, yeah.
No, I mean, it's honestly not as bad for that.
That question, as far as you're going, the bareback riding is a little harder on that area, I would say.
I mean, do you wear protection?
Yeah, absolutely.
Oh, you got a cup on?
Yeah, well, we got kind of modified groin shorts with padding and stuff.
Okay, I'm happy for you.
I'm happy it's all worked out.
Definitely probably could have more padding.
And you have the evidence that everything's fine.
So you and I have at least two things in common.
One of which I'm surprised at, one I'm not, okay?
So first of all, I've read this.
We'll see how accurate the Internet is.
Your favorite country music singer?
Favorite country music singer, I would have to say, Zach Bryan.
Well, that's not what the Internet said.
George Strait or...
These are all in my top five.
Robert Earl Keene.
Still hitting the top.
the charts, but you said, somewhere you said, Cody Jenks.
I do love Cody Jenks, yeah, for sure.
He might be number one for me.
This gives me way less faith than my follow-up on what we were going to have in common,
which would shock me because you're 25 years old.
But I did read that your favorite movie is the same as my favorite movie.
Now, I was alive in the 90s when it came out.
I mean, you were not.
No.
So you don't even know what I'm talking about.
Somebody's making stuff up about you on the internet.
My favorite movie is Lonesome Dove.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Well, they got that one right.
There's nothing better than Lonesome Dove.
No, my wife had actually never seen it, believe it or not,
and I've probably watched it 10 times.
It gives me faith you're 25 years old and it holds up
and then is like still up there.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, we grew up watching that kind of thing,
old westerns, and I don't know.
It's just kind of how we were brought up.
One more on movie then.
Since you just gave me Zach Brian, George Strait,
Robert Rokkeen,
You get me basically your top five of country music.
What's your favorite modern Western?
Since you have good taste with Lonesome Dove, like last 10 years.
Last 10 years, modern Western.
I've got mine ready to go.
Django is pretty awesome.
Django and Jane?
Mm-hmm.
Hell or high water?
Hell or high?
I haven't seen them.
No?
No.
Oh.
It's Taylor Sheridan who did Yellowstone.
Bank robbers right here in Texas.
And you're from Canada, right?
Yep.
All right, so you are competing this weekend against your brother.
Yes.
How does he?
So he's just turned 27 in January.
And this one's for a million dollars.
Yep.
It's, you know, I got to ride here last year.
I was up for the million last year.
Logan didn't quite make it through.
I'm not sure if he didn't make it to the four men, though.
But it was pretty awesome going through the contenders.
I went to the exact same tournaments that he went to
and then making it through to Abilene.
and then now we're here, you know, side by side.
He had a bit of a rough year last year with some injuries
and see him riding as best as he has in this whole career right now
and he's healthy and shoot he's kicking butt.
And it's pretty special to be able to compete, you know,
alongside your brother.
I mean, there's only 10 guys.
So two of the 10 are Hey Brothers.
It's pretty special.
Yeah.
But you want the million.
Yeah.
Not your brother.
Yeah.
I think that's.
I think everyone wants it, but I'd be hoping if I didn't get it, it'd stay in the family.
So I said this at the top of the show.
I talked to J.B. Mooney about this.
You know, I said this is probably the most quintessentially American sport.
Maybe in a debate with football, but he said, well, I think it's older than football.
It dates back further to America.
But, you know, you're Canadian, and I know rodeo is big in Australia.
It's big in Brazil.
It's big in Canada.
So the truth is the sport is even about something quintessential that is more than American.
It's about some kind of spirit and culture that it's odd to think about it.
It spans even further than the West.
Because I could draw a line from Texas up through Montana into Canada and say,
you've got a consistency of a mindset of a culture.
Yeah.
But it even jumps to Australia in Brazil.
So what is it about rodeo that defines its culture?
I think it's the relationship between, you know, the Western lifestyle is the relationship with horses.
It's been as far back as, I mean, they built this country, basically.
It's such a special bond that, you know, Cowboys and everyone has with the horses and Western lifestyle.
And I think that's something that will always stay strong.
Yeah. Yeah. And how tied it is, I think, to people that live, my guess would be people that live on the edge, like the frontier.
In all those places, I can't speak to Brazil, I've never been there.
But Australia, Canada, America, you're talking about people that lived on the edge of civilization.
Yep.
And in the edge of risk, the edge of injury or death.
Absolutely.
And I mean, growing up, raised on a ranch, you know, you're around this stuff your whole life.
And the majority of the things you get to watch on TV and everything that you do socially had to do with rodeo or the Western lifestyle.
So I honestly couldn't imagine growing up a different way or a better way.
It's a unique set of values that a lot of the people in this sport have.
Everyone's very, very faithful, very family-oriented,
and it's something that you just don't change from.
Well, we wish you the best luck.
I hope you beat your brother because I haven't met your brother.
I hope you get the million, and we'll have a lot of fun watching you ride.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate you being here.
All right, that's going to do it for me today from the American Western Weekend right here at Global Life Field.
If you're around this weekend, you would be very pleased to find out this is a good way to spend your entertainment dollars.
I'll be back here again tomorrow morning if you want to turn on Fox and Friends.
6 to 9 a.m. Eastern Time.
Maybe I'll even be on one of these horses tomorrow morning.
We'll fill you in a little more on the American Western weekend.
That's going to do it for me today here on the Will Kane Show.
I'll see you again next time.
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