Will Cain Country - WNBA Racism Claim against Caitlin Clark Fans Exposed! (ft. TX AG Ken Paxton and Bobby Burack)

Episode Date: May 28, 2025

Story #1: Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton calls in to break the news of the arrests of illegal immigrants in the hit and run jet ski death of an 18-year-old Texas woman. Story #2: Will is joined by OutKick Writer, Bobby Burack to break down the most recent failed race hoax from the WNBA after no evidence was found of Caitlin Clark fans racially harassing Angel Reese. Will and Burack also dive into NPR's First Amendment lawsuit against the Trump Administration following funding cuts and much more.  Story #3: What did French President Emmanuel Macron's wife, Brigitte, say after shoving him? Plus, how tall is too tall? Will and The Crew get to the bottom of things. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on X: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, an illegal immigrant runs over an 18-year-old woman in Texas on a lake, kills her. The Attorney General of Texas calls in to give us the latest on this investigation of a Venezuelan illegal immigrant who hit and killed a young lady and ran. Two, Angel Reese claims the WNBA, and Indiana fever fans are racist, but a new investigation says it might just be like all the other hoaxes. And new data shows people are tired of race hoaxes. Three, Gen Z, much less happy than the rest of us, except for a small segment within Jin Z. It is the Will Kane show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Terrestrial radio, market to market, coast to coast across this great United States of America,

but always available by subscribing at Apple or on Spotify. I've got a big show for you today. Bobby Burrack from Outkick's going to join us. He's been all over this story of Angel Reese, Caitlin Clark, and race in the... WNBA, but there's a fascinating new poll out by Pew that shows exactly how exhausted everyone is when it comes to race. That includes not just Republicans, but Democrats, but there's fascinating data on why people are exhausted. Are they indifferent or are they angry? That's all coming up in a little

bit here on the Will Kane show. Plus, the great debate yesterday, is Fox News reporter Nate Foy, 6-5, 6-6, 6-7, 6-8, and that raises a question. Maybe this is a question for the ladies. How tall is too tall? That's coming up a little bit later here on the Wilcane show. But there is breaking news out of Texas, an incredibly sad story. 18-year-old Ava Moore was kayaking at Grapevine Lake over Memorial Day weekend. The story reads that she and her friend noticed,

as you often notice on holiday weekends when it comes to lakes, erratic crazy behavior by people driving boats and personal watercraft, Cidu, jet ski. In one little area of the lake, they saw someone, a woman, driving insane. They decided to get out of there. They didn't get out of there in time before this insane person on a personal watercraft ran over 18-year-old Eva Moore, killed her. Turns out it was a Venezuelan illegal emerald.

immigrant. She was helped in her escape then by other illegal immigrants. And it took Texas authorities a couple of days to track them down. But we have breaking news today about that investigation. We're going to get to that with story number one. Ken Paxton is the attorney general of the great state of Texas. And he has so graciously decided to call in today and join us and tell us about this breaking news. It's great to hear from you, Mr. Attorney General. Well, I wish I was coming on under other circumstances. It's obviously a very sad story with this girl being killed on the lake over Memorial Weekend. So I wish I was on talking about something else.

I wish it were as well, but we're happy to have you back. Of course, when it comes to conversations about your upcoming race for the Senate in Texas. But tell us about this case. I understand you guys conducted a very quick investigation and have some news to share with us today. Yeah, so we, you know, it was my unit, so they're called the fugitive apprehension unit. And their job is to track them fugitives, people that are running from the law. And in this case, they figured out who this woman was. They also figured out the guy that transported her, they ended up getting in a wreck.

They were able to track, track them down and arrest them. And so these two people will be held accountable under, you know, Texas law for killing this young woman that had. such a bright future in front of her. She was on her way to the Air Force Academy and was ready to serve a country and had a promising future and that was taken from her by two illegals who, by the way, did not stop and render aid and anybody, whether illegal or not, would have been required to stop and render aid and help this young woman. And you mentioned it just as an added detail. In their escape, they committed another hit and run, took off and still went into hiding.

Yep. They got in a car accident and again, didn't stop to see if people were okay. They just kept going trying to hide from the law because they were here illegally and I guess feared the consequences. But, you know, it doesn't matter whether you're illegal or not. You hit somebody in a car, you run over somebody with a jet ski. You have an obligation to render AIDS to somebody that you've injured or hurt. what are the details as you understand them right now mr attorney general was there drinking involved i i mentioned that i'd read stories that it was obvious to people watching that it was you know sort of erratic crazy driving which by the way we should mention everyone who ever visits a lake whether or not it's in texas across the country on memorial day or fourth july or any summer weekend honestly needs to be careful but what are the details behind what happened here at great vine lake Look, I don't think, I don't know for sure whether they were drinking or not. Obviously, that's not surprising when people are out on the lake.

You can see that often. I think that's going to be, that's part of the ongoing investigation, and these people are going to be charged. And if there was drinking involved, that's going to affect the charge. That'll be difficult to determine in some ways because, you know, you can't test them soon enough to find out for sure. it'll be based on, you know, testimony of other people who saw that person, and that case will be built over time. And is, am I right, the illegal immigrant in question, and maybe both of them that you've now arrested, are from Venezuela? That is correct. That is what we have been told by federal officials who have that information that they are from Venezuela and that they were here illegally and obviously should not have been here.

That's such, you know, that is not an insignificant detail because it does highlight what's happened over the last five years in this country. I mean, you know, I think most people hold a stereotype or a popular cliche in their mind that illegal immigration is from Mexico or Central America, but we've been flooded in America with a wave of people from across the world. And in this case, I mean, it's a terrible anecdote, but in this case we see essentially the impact of what we're getting from. Venezuela look this was a decision made by the Biden administration to encourage illegal immigration despite our laws against it and they knew when they did that that there were going to be negative consequences they knew that you know the drug cartels would have more access to sending fentanyl under our country and killing our kids they knew that more people more children would be sex

traffic they knew that there would be you know car accidents with illegally they knew that there were consequences to this that were negative that were bad that people would die and that children would be affected. And yet they made the decision it's worth it to us to get more people here for whatever our purposes is, whether that's voting or just hurting Republican states, they did it knowingly and with intent to do to allow that harm. So this morning, Mr. Attorney General, I was driving around Dallas listening to sports talk radio and I listened as this story came up and they discussed it. And I want to share with you what they had to say. And the reason why is I think this is the type of thing

that a lot of people who sort of just lament the individual tragedy of this story will sometimes reach for. I understood the holes in what they had to say, but I want to present it to you to see what you have to say. They were like, why does the fact that these people are illegal immigrants have any bearing on this story? People, Americans do crazy and stupid stuff. They drive erratically on holiday weekends, lakes or Wild Wild West when it comes to laws and danger. You know, we've got Americans who do this. You know, I don't know what they were arguing. I don't know what it adds to the story that they're illegal immigrants.

So, I mean, that's nice to say, but the reality is they're not wrong. Americans do wrong things too. There are people that risk other people's lives wrongly, and they're held accountable for it. But this is a little different because these people. people would not should never have been here they would have never been here the harm would have never occurred had we enforced our own law so you can say it oh what's it matter well it does matter somebody just lost their life it wouldn't have happened had we actually followed and we we made the decision about who was coming here we made the decision about our laws being followed

when we just drop that and the consequences end up being bad they would not have happened but for the fact that we didn't follow our own laws I totally agree. My thoughts when I was listening went to, they immediately started talking about maybe we need to look at licensing on lakes, more pre-veting of people who get to drive around lakes. And my thought was, wait a minute, you want a license to drive, but you think it's unimportant this person didn't have legal citizenship in this country. The incoherence was obvious right away. But the other thing is the point that you made. The fact that Americans commit crimes does not give license, therefore, to allow us to ignore our laws for other to commit crimes. In other words, yeah, we have murderers. Therefore, why would we import more murderers? Or in this case, reckless drivers, whatever the crime may be. The fact that we have

people that break the law only highlights we shouldn't be importing other people to break the law. And exactly. And there were no requirements. I mean, Joe Biden, I sued him over importing criminals from other country. They fought us. They intended to bring criminals into this country. I know that because they fought us legally to bring these people. So they have an intent of bringing people here that caused harm. And that sounds kind of crazy, right? How could a president do that? He did it.

Look at the lawsuits. And he knew that these people, that these countries were emptying their prisons. And other people that we don't want here came here. And that's just a fact. And that's unfortunate. We should be making the decision. We don't have room for the entire world to move to this country. That would be great if we did.

We can't afford it. So we make decisions that are best for Americans who live here based on their ability to pay and jobs and all that stuff. And so we should make the decision about our laws and who comes here. Yes, we want legal immigration. We want to make the choice of the best people to come. We don't want criminals here, people that are going to cause harm to other people. To your point, though, it's hard to limit this to the Biden administration, right?

I mean, I'm watching Democrats today fight, tooth and nail. against the deportation of criminals. For example, Kilmar-Abrego-Garcia, the alleged MS-13 member, wife-beater, human smuggler, it's not just import them, but fight tooth-and-nail to keep them from being deported.

This is a, I don't, these are people, I mean, I know who you're talking about, that Chris, whatever, from Connecticut, the U.S. Senator. I, this is a very different vision of America than our founders had or that many of us have,

which is, it's based on the constitution we have a representative form of government it's by the people for the people of the people this other guy who is protecting an ms 13 gang member who's not who's not legal who commits crimes who is not somebody we want here has a different vision of america when he's out fighting to make sure that person has due process that person doesn't deserve due process they're not they don't belong here they're not under our constitution they don't they don't they don't have a voice they need to go away and yet we've got this guy who doesn't have the same vision for america that our founders did pushing a different agenda that only hurts that vision that the founders gave us all right two more questions on this terrible incident at grapevine lake so it only took you it looks like a couple of days through your through your unit to locate these two individuals was it i've seen video by the way coming from the lake that day

It looks like a whole group of people that were rushing around trying to get this person into a minivan and so forth. But you guys found it's two and what? They were holed up in an apartment in South Dallas and you were able to make the arrest? Yeah. So I'm telling you, this unit that we have, they, this fugitive apprehension, they do such a great job at great risk. They average over 100 fugitives a month that they track down. I've been in, I've had instances where these guys get shot. I had one of my officers got shot nine times and survived, which is amazing.

These guys are heroes, and the risk that they take to protect the public is immense. And I certainly appreciate that my guys so quickly and so effectively found these people and have brought them to justice. Okay. And then last question, Mr. Transcendal, what will happen to them now? I heard you, you're going to bring charges. They face the justice system inside the U.S. United States of America. Does deportation factor in when, when it comes to how you deal with these to, I guess, at this point, alleged criminals? So my guess is the local DA, who I believe would be

Tarrant County or Dent County. One of those DAs will be responsible for prosecuting them for their crimes. So presumably, I don't have that responsibility. I wish that I had that responsibility. I wish the legislature would give concurrent jurisdiction to the Attorney General of Texas to prosecute when DAs don't prosecute. But right now, that's in the hands of local district attorneys who have to make a decision on what charges bring if they choose to bring any at all. So that's one of the challenges we have in Texas. Unlike a lot of states, we have local district attorneys that are completely responsible

for that decision. And in many states, concurrent jurisdiction is with the DAG. In our state, I don't have a jurisdiction, so I don't have the ability to prosecute them if they need to be prosecuted and a DA decides not to. But what do you expect? Do you have any indication? I know you have a relationship with the Trump administration. Do you have any indication of what DHS, Tom Homan, will do, will they allow this to play out?

I don't know what the procedure is on this. Do they allow it to play out locally through the criminal justice system? Or does I step in quickly and early to begin the process of getting them out of the country? So no, I think it would be the local decision first on prosecution, because they have the right. And hopefully one of these district attorneys will prosecute and they'll, you know, they'll go through the process of being indicted and being charged, charged and then get to a trial. And then if they're found guilty, they'll have to serve their time. They'll be deported presumably, depending on what administration we're talking about, after they've served their time and paid the price for what they've done. All right. Well, Mr. Attorney General, we appreciate you calling in today and letting us know the latest on this breaking news and what is a really sad story.

As you pointed, I did not know that Ava Moore was headed to the Air Force Academy. I know she was 18 and she had a bright future ahead of her. And it's a really sad story. And we appreciate you sharing with us the details this morning. Thank you, Mr. Attorney General. I appreciate you having me on. Thanks a lot. Hi. Okay, there he goes. Attorney General of Texas, Ken Paxton. I can already see some of your comments coming in there on Facebook and YouTube. We're going to share that. jump into those but we're going to take a quick break because we're going to be joined by outkicks bobby barack there's a great scandal and you know i'm slow to go in on these stories and i'll explain to you why in just a moment but when it comes to the w nba angel reese katelyn clark brittany griner and race but we're going to dive in here next on the will cane show

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Available now at Fox News Podcasts.com or wherever you get your podcasts. The list is just getting incredibly long of claims of institutional racism or individual cases of racism that turn out to be false, fake, a hoax. Does that now list include the WNBA? It is the Will Kane Show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. hit subscribe at Apple or on Spotify and if you're bouncing around online head over to outkick.com check out Bobby Burak also find him on X he does a lot of great not just reporting but columns analysis and thought when it comes to things going on in the new cycle and Bobby joins us now what's up Bobby what's up Will how are you I'm good

so I said this in the end of our last segment leading into this conversation I am, and I don't know why, Bobby, but I am not hesitant, not reluctant, but less than enthusiastic sometimes of diving into stories like the story around Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark. Even the video that came out with Brittany Griner. Now, what I'm talking about as a setup for the audience, this is video from a WNBA game from Brittany Griner after she commits a foul. There's no sound on it, and that's the point.

We have to sort of read her lips, but I will narrate that for anyone listening on radio, Spotify, or Apple. Here's what it looked like during that game in the WNBA. So Brady Griner is sent to the bench after a foul. She mouths what appears to be to everyone watching effing white girls.

Now, I don't know if that's in reference to Caitlin Clark. I don't think she was involved in the particular place. or the foul, I don't know if it's in reference to referees. But that comes on the heels, Bobby, of this entire claim of racism going on in the WNBA. Angel Reese, who is touted to be the rival to Caitlin Clark, said that she was called racist things. Things were yelled at her that were racist by fans of the Indiana fever, the team that employs Caitlin Clark. And this is some of the WNBA's investigation into the video.

around this incident. Here, watch and listen. In offsetting technicals. So because it's a flagrant, it's Reese who asked to shoot these free throws. And then Chicago will maintain the basketball. Reese misses the first. Mark the time and the score.

You never know how these moments can spark something for a team. All right, Reese is shooting a technical foul. She misses it. You can hear the booze and the noise from the crowd. She says during that moment, correct me if I'm wrong on this, Bobby, but she says during that moment is when she heard racist things being chanted. It was investigated. The WNBA came out with this statement regarding the investigation.

They said the WMBA today following the statement regarding Chicago Sky at Indiana fever game on May 17th, we have investigated the report of racist fan behavior in the vicinity of the court during the game. and based on information gathered to date, including from relevant fans, team, staff, as well as audio and video review of the game, have not substantiated the claim. They then go on to make the, you know,

pro forma statement that they're against everything bad and for inclusion. So I'm reluctant sometimes, Bobby, but it feels like this stuff happening in the WNBA. I guess I'm reluctant because it feels like, I don't know, culture, war, red meat i don't know why that sometimes is something i'm reluctant but this is getting pretty gross and ugly now in the wnba yeah so i want to provide a little background to this so angel

reese originally claimed she didn't hear anything their head coach went on record speaking to reporters the following tuesday and said no player or coach had heard the alleged noises which we found out are monkey noises it was actually first reported by an That's the allegation, Bobby? Yeah. The allegation was what you did. Okay. Yeah.

So the initial allegation was made by an anonymous fan and the head coach said none of us heard it. Well, days after that, Angel Reese spoke to reporters saying she changed her story. She goes, it's been a really hard week. What happened to me could happen. But anybody, I don't stand for racism. So I want to be clear that nobody involved in the game heard it until an anonymous fan heard it. Then they were like, oh, yeah, yeah. we heard that too. So I want to put that front and center. But here's what I would tell you as far as

it being a culture war topic or not. I think it's emblematic of a bigger issue, which is how we discuss and react to racism or alleged racism. So anytime Angel Reese says that she's a victim of racism, this case, or what happened last year during the bus incident, the WMBA responds by launching an investigation. Stephen A. Smith goes on television and says, I've had enough of this, these white folks have gone too far. But when it's the other way, we just ignore it. By all accounts, Brittany Griner said trash effing white girls, WMBA, silent. Angel Reese last week shared a video on TikTok calling Caitlin Clark a little white girl who was afraid to fight her. How are those not worthy of an investigation given how low the bar

the WMBA a set with these Angel Reese incidents. And that brings me to a bigger picture. Because this happens all across America, Will, where we are told to accept racism one way, but treat alleged racism the other way as if it is some violent crime. And the hypocrisy and double standard is what has me frustrated and grossed out by this entire incident. Okay. I want to break that down. But first. Yeah. I want to stick with, before we go to society at large, I want to stick with the WNBA for a moment. What now has my attention, because like I said, for some reason, and I'm trying to figure out what that reason is, like, for real, with myself, why I'm reluctant to do that story to dive in.

You know what? Will Compton of Bussing with the Boys podcast went after you and Clay. And I asked myself, why? why did he go after you for doing this story right that's basically what it is for doing this story and i think there is let's call it a normie mindset meaning you go through the world you live sort of in the mainstream of things not good nor bad but generally don't want to get involved in negativity and it requires you if you're in that mindset to just sort of accept the double standard and the culture that you just described i think that's what the case is right and if you push back

on that standard, you become the divisive one, right? And I might be as guilty as everyone else. It's like, I just don't want to get into this ugly divisive thing. But it's worth getting into, and that's why we're talking about it here. So let's stick with the WMBA. What's going on, man? Because it's getting to this boiling point, I feel like. Like the ugliness towards Caitlin Clark around Caitlin Clark,

and all of it having to do with race is getting to be the biggest defining characteristic, at least conversationally, not the quality of basketball, not the championship, but this when it comes to WNBA. Yeah, so there's a lot here. I guess we can continue to break it down step by step. But I think if you look at that question, so Will Compton, Jamel Hill, Keith Olberman, Bill Simmons, Ryan Rusillo, they're all coming after me or Clay or Whitlock.

It's one of the three of us. And it's no different than what happened five years ago when you were just getting ready to come to Fox and people were coming after you over the bubble wallace thing because what does that do? It's a deflection and it's also a way to get in that quote unquote cool kids club, right? Will Compton has been getting crushed by those cool kids for almost six months for interviewing Donald Trump. So this is his way of showing everybody, no, no, no, I'm one of the good guys, I'm going after Burrack, I'm going after Clay, I'm going after Whitlock. A lot of people see this as an opportunity.

Most of the people calling me out right now aren't even disgusting the actual matter. They're just calling me names. They're going after Riley Gaines. So that's point number one is this is an opportunity for people to show which side of the culture war they're on. The good side or the bad side. Now, point number two, what's happening in the WMBA? This is where I am frustrated because everybody has to couch it. everybody's afraid to tell the truth.

Let's just speak matter of fact, Will. Here's what's happening. The WMBA is a majority black league with a majority black media. White people don't have a lot of say in the coverage of the WMBA. They don't have a lot of say in the culture of the WMBA. So when Caitlin Clark came in last year and set ratings records, records on the court, merchandise records, ticket sales, the narrative was, well, she's just, doing it because of white supremacy or great white hopeism in the wmBA community has used that as a

cope that racism is why she must be more popular than everyone else so when you believe that mindset you're looking at any example to try to support it it goes back to that saying the supply of racism so vastly outstrips the supply that's what's happening here angel reese The demand or not. Stephen A. They're looking for examples of racism. Okay, but why do you think this? This was brought up on our morning call. Two of a days, Dan asked this. I think I know the answer. Page Bukers, number one overall pick in the WMBA draft, Dallas Wings, really good at basketball, treated differently than Caitlin Clark. Why? So, by the way, Paige Bukers, white, white. Perfect question. I think it's actually really easy to answer. I was in.

Las Vegas a few weeks ago, and I'm not going to give out the name, but somebody within media was discussing you versus Max Kellerman, and they made the case that you were a bad guy, a villain, and Max Kellerman was a good guy. You and Max, both straight white guys, married with children. What's the difference? Max openly apologizes for his white guilt. You're on the side of, well, if I'm not guilty, I'm not going to apologize. Paige Bukers is on record over and over again, acknowledging white privilege. Same thing with Cameron Brink, who was the number two overall pick last year. During draft night, she said, I want to acknowledge the black women before me.

Pretty good start. So Caitlin Clark, so the argument is Caitlin Clark didn't pay appropriate fealty in a way that was by Cameron Brinker or Paige Buechers? absolutely and it goes back to why people in sports media considered you a bad guy and max a good guy because max um apologizes he atones for what they believe is the original sin where you're just like i'm accountable for what i do personally so and i've said this from the start it's not just that kately clark is a straight white woman it's that she's not using her platform to be a woke activist In this analogy, I am Caitlin Clark.

Like, I am the transformational. I'm the transformational savior of media. The bad guy. Yeah, the villain. The great, but also like the best to ever do it. Yeah, right, right. If I'm reading the analogy, right. I don't love the analogy as far as that goes, but I don't like that.

You didn't like that. I just followed it along its logical path. Here's an interesting question. I haven't heard this discussed. And I don't want to foment. I don't want to create it. but I can't help it. I can see it coming. Do you already know where I'm going? This will be interesting. How do you think Cooper Flag will be received in the NBA? Cooper Flagg will come

into the NBA with a similar level of celebrity and stardom and expectations that Caitlin Clark came into the WNBA. Yeah, I think it's going to be similar. I've predicted that. We saw it happen with Yokic. The day that Yokic won finals MVP, there was an ESPN article deeming him great white hopism. When he was winning MVP's,

Kendrick Perkins accused the voters of a racial bias. It's going to happen with Cooper Flagg. Wait until Cooper Flagg starts selling jerseys and some person goes on television and says it's because of racism. How come Victor

Webbenyama's not selling as many jerseys? It's coming well because this script is applied over and over again because there's no accountability. That's what I'm trying to do is provide accountability. Now people are mad at me, just like they were mad at you five years ago for saying, wait a minute, everyone went on television and said that the NASCAR culture is racist and you're like, are they going to apologize now that we found out it was a hoax? And then people on ESPN came after you. I remember that day.

You were doing a radio show. your colleagues were calling in to criticize you for asking them for accountability. It's the same thing. Nothing has changed five years later. So that's the second part of this breakdown I wanted to go to. That's the societal issue at large. And you've brought up the Bubba Wallace incident. There was one just a few years ago, the Duke volleyball, BYU volleyball incident,

which is very similar to this Angel Reese story, where there was allegations of somebody in the crowd saying racist things. I actually think somebody had their season tickets revoked and they were expelled. They later had to apologize to that person because there was zero evidence that happened. But that's happened a lot. I vaguely remember something at an Oklahoma City Thunder game where a fan was accused of saying something by a player in that situation. I can't remember if it was Russell Westbrook or who it was, but accused a player. I'm a fan of saying something.

There was no evidence to support it. And I don't think it's throat clearing to say it does happen. So just to be clear, people say racist things. But it's how you treat allegations of racism. Are allegations treated as convictions? And the way that it's treated as a conviction, by the way, is a lot in the way you just described it. Quickly run to a larger societal implication.

That's what will happen on first take. That's what'll happen on a CNN panel. They'll assume its veracity to then say, what's wrong with America? What's wrong with NBA fans or WNFIA? That's how they'll do it. They'll presume it's truth to get to a bigger conversation. conversation. And like you said, the list is getting really long. Like the Air Force Academy Prep

School incident turned out one of the kids who said he was had racist things graffitied on his room or whatever. Well, he did the graffiti on everybody's room. And again, it's not as though racism never happens, but all of these public, it's crazy how many of these public allegations that become gigantic conversations turn out to be fake. It's 100%. It's 100%. True. And Bubba Wallace, what was the response? All NASCAR fans are racist. Nope. Remember, there was the Dinger incident. That is the name of a mascot, I believe, for a Colorado baseball team. People said a fan were shouting the N-word. No, he wasn't. LeBron James claimed somebody sprayed the N-word on his gate. Nobody happened to see it. And he said he washed it off before he called police. Really? And people use that as. As about remember the circle game, the circle game at Chicago Cubs game that Theo Epstein said gave him chill up his spine.

I think the circle game was also something to do with like the United States Military Academy. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy how many times he's turned out to be just nothing. Right. No matter how many cases turn out to be nothing, we never learn our lesson. When I say we, I mean, the media at large, next time this happens, it's going to be same response. And when this first happened, I put out a column saying, wait, wait, can we address what happened last June? Angel Reese claimed on Twitter last June that her and her black teammates were getting off a bust and a white Caitlin Clark fan blocked them, started harassing

them, and called them ghetto bees. Then a video came out and that didn't happen. And her own GM contradicted her on the records saying, no, the fan was just trolling them, asking them mom, hey, have you guys had a chance to reach out to Caitlin Clark? There was no harassment, there was no taunting, and there was no racial slurs. Everybody has just forgotten about that and moved on to the new case. And we're not even talking about some of the other subplots of this. Last week, we had Ryan Clark, whom I know and have spoken to since, saying that if you married a white woman, you're not allowed to criticize any black women. That's where we are right now. A simple WMBA star is somebody going on.

air criticizing interracial marriage. It's nuts. Yeah, I talked about that last week with Michelle Tofoya. It's the Ryan Clark versus RG3 subplot debate to this entire thing, which I saw a funny tweet on that. It was something like a hard foul by Caitlin Clark on Angel Reese

led to Ryan Clark having to have a discussion about his own interracial children. So it's just like crazy how this stuff goes. Here's the case I want to use as a transition to another topic with you. So just as a reminder, Oberlin College Gibson's Bakery, 2016. I don't know if you remember this, Bobby, but this is pretty fascinating.

A black student was arrested for shoplifting at Gibson's bakery. Protest erupted accusing the bakery of racial profiling. Oberlin College supported the protest. The bakery then sued for defamation and won a $36 million judgment, which was later reduced to $25 million after the court found the college had defamed the business. That has to happen. That's the kind of You're calling for media accountability, public reputations being solidified, the type of truth tellers that are or not out there. But I actually think this type of stuff, we know the Covington kids got a big judgment against CNN. You have to bring defamation suits when this stuff is made against you for falsehoods. Yeah, Ole Miss. Remember those Ole Miss students got accused of racist chants?

I think it was also something with an alleged monkey noise that was two years of. ago. That turned out to be false, too. And I do think you have to sue because it doesn't stop and people's lives are being ruined. I think we glossed over that volleyball incident. The kid that they alleged was yelling racist remarks was autistic. And they put his life, he was plastered all. They put his life in danger, plastering him all over the internet. I mean, what about the blackface scandal with Deadspin? They falsely framed a nine-year-old child of wearing blackface and put put them all over the internet i spoke to those parents on the record and they said that kid was getting death threats and couldn't even go to school the next day so it's not just that we are

using race as a um tool or a divide us or to capitalize on it we are attacking often public citizens who do not have the platform children children in that case i remember yeah half his face was black, half his face was red because he was a Redskins fan. And they didn't show the red, the red side of his face. They showed him in profile. Did they sue, by the way? Did they sue? They did. And I think they did. Yeah, they did. Yeah, the case is still ongoing. And also, they had a line that said the kid found a way to hate black people in Native Americans. The kid is Native American. So not only did you lie, you accused of that minority groups. This stuff is just mind-boggling to me because it doesn't end. There's no accountability. And we just move on.

Will, I think the next time we talk, there'll probably be another case of this. And we'll be asking, is there any accountability because there never is. And I want to make clear, I don't care that Jamel Hill, Keith Olberman, are calling me racist online or going after Clay or Riley or Whitlock. We can all defend ourselves. These nine-year-olds can't do it. So stop tacking them. Right. More of the Will Cain Show right after this. Podcasts Network. Hey there, it's me. Kennedy, make sure to check out my podcast. Kennedy saves the world. It is five days a week, every week. Download and listen at Fox Newspodcast.com or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. Hey, I'm Trey Gowdy host of the Trey Gatty podcast. I hope you will join me

every Tuesday and Thursday as we navigate life together and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side. Listen and follow now at Fox Newspodcast.com. Welcome back to the Will Cain Show. All right, last thing on this, because I found this fascinating. This is a Pew Research poll. I want to put this up on the screen, okay? It showed how Democrats and Republicans feel about race in 2025. It's really fascinating. For those of you listening on podcast or on radio, I'll try my best to explain it.

Americans are angry and exhausted. That's how they feel about race. So let's just use exhausted. 54% of Democrats and 48% of Republicans exhausted in talking about race and racial issues. Now I want to go to angry, though. 47% of Democrats are angry, 19% of Republicans. Isn't that fascinating? There's more.

It flips when you ask, are you uninterested? Well, 39% of Republicans are uninterested in talking about these topics. 15% of Democrats are uninterested. So they're interested and they're angry and they're exhausted. That's the Democratic side of this, right? The Republican side of this is largely exhausted and uninterested. and uninterested in the constant feed of these types of stories. But what I thought, which that's not surprising.

The Republican side of this is exhausted and uninterested, got it. What's interesting is the Democratic side of this, exhausted, but angry and mad and fearful's really high, by the way. That's a big divide as well, fearful. And I think that says something about the psychology, how many on the left view these race stories. Yeah. And in so many ways, I think Democrats would look at that and say a success because the party has devoted almost a decade of trying to convince people that racism is back, that is worse than ever, and you should be fearful of it. I think Obama, when a lot of this started, I think would look at that study and say, all right, I did my job.

I successfully ingrained fear in my voters. I think Joe Biden did the same thing. Kamala Harris, same thing. I always cite there's this blueprint study after the election that says the main two reasons Harris lost was the economy and immigration, obvious. But number three was swing voters were exhausted by how much he focused on culture war issues like race. So I think for Democrats and their voters, this is everything. but not just Republicans and conservatives will I think a lot of moderates are also tired of this I think that's right because it doesn't get us anywhere and real quickly I want to go back to your

initial thesis that you feel a bit icky discussing all this I think I know why not icky because we've made the statement before it's it's exhausting world issues yes yes I don't feel I feel exhausted that's actually the perfect word for me on a lot of these stories I feel exhausted but you know i think i mean i'm not saying i kind of think you've inspired me to go back into doing more of these stories which i did obviously because for some reason sports is the vehicle that this these stories always come through for some reason but like to your point on accountability and that in those kids like you are defaming people you are defaming people and and that should you should not get exhausted on defending people who have had their reputations destroyed

okay bobby yeah have you seen this would you call your bro to say good night. Watch. Hello? What it? Oh, hey. I'm just about to go to bed and so just thought I

called and say good night. Oh. Yeah. So. Wait, what is? Just thought I can't say good night. Because I'm about to go to

about to hit it. You called me to say good night? Is that weird? So that's one. It's all over the internet. It's all over TikToks, all over Instagram. I saw a funny one. It was all black guys.

The one I saw, and the way their friends reacted is like, what's wrong with you? What? You're calling me to say goodnight? It's really, really funny. All right. So would you call?

Would you go? All right. Yeah, I mean, by the way, you call me to say good night. It's going to go like that. Yeah. So I have a confession. I've always found it awkward even saying bye to a male buddy on the phone. I've often gone to hanging up and then texting saying, sorry, man, my phone lost connection. It's a really weird exchange, even saying bye, have a good day. So I'm definitely out on saying good night to other guys, I have to admit. Listen, you and I've had a few phone conversations. You do have a hard time finding the end of the conversation.

You have a hard time putting a button and ending. I do. That's not weird. See you, man. Talk to you later. You can't do that. I don't know. There's something about me where when I can tell the conversation is about to end,

I rush to, hey, one more thing. Or, hey, by the way, it's a real problem. It is. it's like you have completion syndrome conversational OCD you can't you can't let it go I think it's it's the it's the columnness in me that before you send in a column you want to make sure you've gotten everything out of the way I panic a little bit is there anything else you'd like to tell me yeah all right so you would not call buddy to say good night and if you did would you get the same reaction oh definitely but remember my my buddies like my real buddies they are like old

blue-collar truckers and farmers. If I say good night to them, they would ridicule me for weeks. All right. Lastly, I want to hit this with you. NPR is suing the Trump administration, claiming First Amendment violations on the Trump administration cutting off funds for NPR. This came up yesterday on the 4 o'clock Will Kane Show on the Fox News channel. Harvard also suing under First Amendment grounds for cutting off funding. The question is, when cutting off funding is an abridgment of the First Amendment. NPR feels like a very easy case. Drew Holden, over on X, who does great work, came up with a long thread of stories the NPR has done over time. I'm just going to share with you a couple.

Here's a couple of headlines from NPR. Why haven't you seen any stories from NPR about the New York Post, Hunter Biden's story? Read more in this week's newsletter. And then the answer is, we don't want to waste our time on stories that are not really stories. That's them on what was a real story. How about this one? some white people may choose the yellow thumbs up because it feels neutral, but some academics are you opting out of that into the white thumbs up

because otherwise you signal a lack of awareness about white privilege akin to society associating whiteness with being raceless. I've always found it weird, by the way, when people do their race in the emojis. Can't we all just do yellow? Like, if somebody, you like it, oh yeah, definitely. Would you send, do you send the white thumbs up? do you match your skin tone to your i actually changed it because remember i used to be really pale

since i started tanning i moved to the white tan comes up yeah no joke i i'm gonna be honest you send that to me i'm gonna be like oh bobby made a choice here interesting i think yellow is this like why don't we all just use yellow like what's the point we have to import our race over over to text um you and just insulted a lot of simpsom fans because on the Simpsons what yellow is not neutral it's white the black characters on the Simpsons are not yellow so yellow is white oh oh I never even thought about it that way yeah so that's all Simpsons characters yeah you're right right but to the point of NPR I don't think the taxpayer should be forced and I think it's absurd to require the taxpayer

to fund something that is so clearly ideologically in the bag. Yeah, me too. I mean, most of the things we fund, the argument is, well, it's a necessity or a better society. What does NPR do to us? It's certainly not giving us information that we otherwise wouldn't know. I didn't do much original reporting now. A lot of it is parroting talking points that slate an MSNBC have is a complete waste of time. Yeah. I actually think it's wrong. Like, it's wrong for our public dollars to be going to something like that. Forget their first-minute protections. I mean, and what about our first-minute protections? Like, that's my money being forced to be spent on a point of view that I don't want to subsidize. Like, that's my first- Right. And I know there's an argument. Right. And there's the argument that, well, not, it's a very low percentage. I don't care. Any percentage is too high. Right. Totally agree. All right. Really good stuff today, Bobby. Great job. I know you're writing about this.

uh people can follow you on all the topics we discussed today you've been great on on these stories like the katelyn clark adventure uh and they can check bobby out at outkick com and on bobby barack thank you man hey hey appreciate i'm not going to say anything else because if i keep talking the show will go on and on and on so i'm just going to check out goodbye good night bobby good night good night say goodbye say goodbye uh oh he just on the There we got the goodbye from Bobby Verac. What's up, two days? Can you see this?

This dude is crying outside the door. So you had to make his way into the studio today. Saint joining us for the third segment coming up of the Will Cain Show. It is time to take the quiz. It's five questions in less than five minutes. We ask people on the streets of New York City to play a long. long, let's see how you do. Take the quiz every day at thequiz.com.

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What is that two days? What is that tinfoil? how what number of fox news personalities have joined the trump administration's got to be like secretary of defense secretary of transportation judge jean carrie mccari you just have mccary on yep mccary was he a fox news contributor he was right he was mccary was marty mccary um there's more yeah there was julia neshwa uh but she's been replaced i think uh now you said duffy right um i said duffy yep yep there's more i don't know uh but congratulations to judge jeanine um do a quick chat gpt on that careful because it'll kill you about AI the end of

humanity this is my most popular co-host you suggested joining me now in the studio it is saint saint my wife my wife um demanded that you at least have them on once a week once a week for St. Yeah, demanded it. We could do that. Yeah. We could do that. St.

had a rough night last night. We were watching together the Dallas stars lose once again to the Edmonton Oilers. We're headed for a gentleman sweep, it appears. I'm not a pessimistic fan, but the Oilers are really good. And I think you're headed for your Florida Panthers tinfoil pad against the Edmonton Oilers. And I don't know what to say there. I think the Panthers will be favored because they're just such a good team. but others are really good as well

but anyway saint and i watched it he weighs 75 pounds and he is a lap dog and he insists on he's not a lot on the couch but he can lay on my chest while i watch tv on the couch and the minute he lays down it's a loophole but he's learned the loophole

so that's good he won't get on the couch without that situation the minute he lays on your chest he goes to sleep i mean snoring on your chest but I guess he slept long enough on my chest that I wasn't paying attention to how much pool water he drank when he came home from our walk and I had let them out a ton

and he's housebroken or at least that's how it's supposed to be allegedly but he had a allegedly because he allowed he had a big big accident in the house last night so really ended poorly for saint last night and then I noticed

he he was dead solid slept through the night nothing But when I let him out this morning, it was another long, long moment of relief. And there's people who are going to get mad at me from drinking pool water, but what are you going to do? I mean, I'll go out there with a fresh bowl of water, and he'll be like, that's good. There's a whole pond right here. I'm just going to drink out of this pond. He's an animal.

It has chlorine in it. Yeah, and I'm wondering if chlorine's a diuretic. I am wondering that. Like, you drink a bunch of it and you have to, you know, you got to go a little more frequently or something like that. Yeah, like alcohol with humans. Yeah, give him a little bit of grace. All right, this video came out over the Memorial Day weekend, and this is French President Emmanuel Macron.

He is on their whatever, plane, government plane, whatever his Air Force One is, I believe, landing somewhere. What do they call that? Air Force. How do you say Air Force in French? And I don't know if this has sound two days, but roll the table. You can talk over it, so you see a little slap. Boom.

He gets a duff. double shove to the face, and then he looks out to the crowd and waves. But watch this. Watch this. You could explain it. Watch what he does. All right. He's walking out now. Okay. And Bridget McCrone comes up next to him. He puts his arm out. What does he do with his arm? Puts his arm out. And she says no. She doesn't take it for him to escort her down the stairs. Now, the story is there are lip readers, right? But the thing is, her face is not visible when she says something. So I don't know what the lip reader was able to.

Is there another angle where the lip reader saw what she had to say? I don't think so. But it says... Well, it says what? So the lip reader apparently... Got it right here. Yeah, go for it. But the lip reader says, she says, stay away, you loser. Maybe walking down the stairs right there.

As they're walking down. Maybe after the back. Yeah, after she refuses the arm. So stay away, you loser. president it's a weird they're a weird story though did you see she met him when she was 24 and he was uh oh careful

where you going with this weird just the age gap fill them in tinfoil the age just the age gap just the age gap I know you're in on the story tinfoil just the age gap where you're going with your camera there pal I'm just adjusting my camera here

to bring in some members of the Wilicia and their comments at Facebook and on yeah the age gap is weird between McCrone and his wife he he was 15 and she was 24 when they met which is little odd 15 and 24 yeah yeah the age gap's not that bad it's not nine years isn't that big but when you're 15 and she's 24 kind of grown a you didn't let me finish that part yes that part you know we've often talked about what the the appropriate ratio is on a man um dating remarrying and we've all figured out the

formula. We know the formula. It's half plus seven, right? So you're allowed to date someone half your age plus seven years. So that puts me at 32. That's my floor, should anything ever happened to my marriage, which is not going to. No. But 32. But we don't ever do it the other way. What about a woman dating younger than her? And careful because this is close to home. I'll explain a minute. Zero divided by any number. Yeah, I think it's a little bit of a double standard. I mean, you see all those teachers these days the female teachers which is gross and weird um but like yeah you don't really hear about it a lot but i think i don't think women want to date younger guys as much because guys are mature and women mature way faster that's not true and they don't want to deal

with young guys it's not true i saw a chart on that really on what women find attractive yes and it mirrors your age until you're about 47 and then they start looking at 30 year old dudes I just saw the data I'm telling you, look it up. But when you're older, like, but you're not having a 40-year-old date of 22-year-old, I mean. That's too big.

Yeah, that gap's too big. But that's my whole question. What is the gap? And the reason I'm telling you is, be careful. My mom. Clit-right, right? After my dad, my mom married a guy 15 years her younger. Oh, wow.

That's got to be. Yeah, yeah. Now, they weren't. He wasn't 15, just for the record. I was going to say, I was like, wait, was he legal of legal age? Was he her teacher? Yeah. No, no, tinfoil.

We got to figure out what that appropriate number is. Let's head over to the comment section. Kevin Jordan said, I'm exhausted of race talk. And Lou Dogg says, I'm with you, Kevin. Sturmguer 70 says, Rees is the racist one. I think talking about Angel Reese, not my intern who is sitting here with us today, right outside the studios.

Clark out hustles and outplays her most of the rest, if not all, the WNBA. Blue Eye says, remember when we all weren't labeled? Now everyone wants to say, I'm a certain color and has the need to first tell everyone what they do behind closed doors. Nobody cares. Exactly.

That's why you should use the yellow thumbs up emoji. And there's several comments. What a disgrace to these players. This is all Democrats' fault. Brittany Griner should have been suspended. Fred Rogers says you never hear cultural conflicts with male players. You ever notice? Women are so catty.

That's not true. Sorry, Fred, you're wrong. Really? Not as much. Well, I mean, we just went through several incidences. We went through several incidences in the NBA. And I'm telling you, wait till next year with Cooper Flag. Wait.

This is going to, I think Bobby's right. This is going to be a big thing next year with. I do think there is a level of, I don't, I hate to use the word caddy, but whatever it is to these women players, I do think there is an extra level, but I think you're not going to escape it when it comes to Cooper Flagg in the NBA. Yeah, I just, I don't know. I think sometimes in the NBA, it's like if you can play, you can play. A lot of times I think that.

I don't know if it's like an endorsement. attention is different. But if you're playing on the on the core, I don't see I feel like I don't see it as much, but maybe I'm just not noticing. I don't know. Who was it? There was a former player who had a lot of issue with all the European players coming over.

I can't remember who exactly it was. Gilbert Arinas? Is it Gilbert Aran? That was just one. Yeah, that was just one of them, you know. One example of that. By the way, can I do? And Cooper flag is a whole new thing because he's not Euro. You know that Cooper Flag is the first white American player selected number one overall since the 1970s.

That's wild. Bird was not taken number one overall. So since the 1970s, I read that Cooper Flag is worth $500 million to a billion dollars in marketing value to the team that drafts him, which will be the Dallas Mavericks. Like this guy is going to be a marketing phenomenon. He's going to be huge, and that's going to cause issues. Watch. Put the overrunner on how many segments on first take.

That's true. That's very true. Go ahead, tinfoil. You got to unmute yourself, tinfoil. You're in timeout now. No, no, this is important, okay? Issue a correction about yesterday. Sam Bowie was taken second after Michael Jordan.

That's, I was mixing up. Oh, you were thinking of the NBA player? Is that Jim Bowie? Not the Alamo? You were thinking of the 1984 NBA draft? That's what you were thinking. Yeah, I got my wires crossed. While we're doing corrections, can I do a correction as well for myself?

So, McCrone's wife was 39 when she met him and he was 15? Yes. 39 years old and 15. So that's a little different. What did you say? 24? I said 24. That is a big gap.

39 years old and 15. So their age gap, I'm sorry, I'm slow on math. 19 plus 5. 24. years, 24 years is their age gap. Wow. She's still got this upper hand, you know? You think that

by now he'd be a little faster. Dodge, wow, a little bit. Yeah, how about her? 24 years, his senior. I don't know. What do you think McCrone is? Is he like 50, so that makes her like 74 now? That sounds right. Is McCrone? McCrone older than me?

McCrone's 47. He's younger than me. Damn it. And I'm not president. He's president. he's president of France Get on it, buddy But you're right, Patrick The unwritten detail of this

Is 47-year-old takes double punch From 71-year-old That's the different The alternate headline All right, finally This happened yesterday on the Will Kane show All right, we want to correct the record Make sure we're not passing along fake news

So we brought him back Nate, are you six foot five? I'm taller than six five. So I'm six, seven, and three quarters. When you're that tall, it's kind of ridiculous to round up. But I do generally say that I'm six foot eight. With shoes on, I'm for sure six eight. If this were an NBA roster, I'd be six nine.

But you're not going to find me on any roster, will, because I'm the tallest non-collegiate athlete that anybody's ever met. And now I'm a photographer's worst nightmare. My photographer Lorenzo's on a step ladder just so we can have a level shot. Well, I just want to let you know the debate going on behind the scenes. Interestingly, all my female producers are saying that's fake news that you're inflating your height.

And all my male producers are saying he's a male model. There's only one Nate Foy. And it turns out the real height is he is 6'8. All right, by the way, I'm talking about you guys. I was wrong. All during the show yesterday, you guys are talking about how good-looking Nate Foy is. It's true.

I see him around the building here. He is damn handsome, man. And I was the one who thought he was six-five. Because I'm six-three, and he's way taller than I am, so I should have bumped it up. Okay, so here's the question. How tall is too tall? You heard Nate say it in that clip.

He's the tallest non-collegiate athlete that you know, because he's right. You reach a certain height, and it's like, hey, did you play basketball? Maybe volleyball, right? Maybe if you say no, volleyball, then people are like, yeah okay it makes sense right but you're six eight and you say just no i didn't play anything and there's a moment you know of like everybody goes oh oh so how tall is too tall if you're six four people don't presume you to be a d1 athlete right so but there's a point at which it has

diminishing returns right don't you think i think have this conversation and we've decided that's the line 6364 i think but dating wise i feel like 6 8's totally fine women are going to love it that doesn't matter you do oh yeah absolutely you're kidding okay well we'll do a quick focus group because here joining us today just outside the studio are two people that work on the will cane how tall is it my 17 year old intern Reese and my 23 year old producer ellie so okay they want to know to start, ladies. How tall are you, though? So we have to start there. So Ellie, how tall are you?

She's 5, 2, and 3 quarters. Well, there, come on. And Reese is 5.6. Okay, so by the way, average height for women is probably what? 5.3? I would say 5.5. No. The average height for men is 5.7. It's lower than

you think. Do American... It is. It is. Do American men. If you're chat, GBT, and this. Don't do world men. I'm not. Women in the U.S. is five feet, three and a half inches. Okay. And men? Men. Five nine. Five-nine. Five-nine. Yeah. Okay. Is the average height. Okay. So the question is for forget sports and talking to other dudes with women. Okay. Let's ask it again. How tall is too tall, Ellie? Six-five is too tall? It would be what for you? maybe six three she says okay that's a full foot taller than her i mean that's what i'm saying

what about all those 510 girls they need someone 6 8 oh reese says 666 7 is is is the ceiling on the height okay so here's what i think i think it's around 6 566 i think that's it like because also life can get uncomfortable, right? Cars, doorways, planes. Rollercoasters. Will. You're my roller coaster. Nathan.

Yes, yes, Patrick, roller coasters. You get your head lopped off. Which, by the way, like, for me, that's like something that would happen, like, maybe once or twice in your life. Like, shoot, can't, that roller coaster's uncomfortable. But I get the picture. He just went to Universal over Memorial Day weekend. Like, I feel like theme parks are a big part of his life.

So this roller coaster issue is a thing. Some might say his life is a roller coaster, you know? That's true. I have a 6-4 son. I have one headed, I believe. I think he's headed for 6-5. But I do think, like, you know, 6-6. I hope it caps out at 6-6.

I think 6-7 comes with some diminishing returns. That's my thought. What are you two days? You're going to get special shoes? I'm 6-3. my wife's 5-9 um you're going to have tall kids yeah definitely um but you know i'm actually six two and a half i wear size 13 sometimes 14 okay oh my gosh 14s you might be able to get in a store you know what they say you have to start getting special sizes right um yeah was it said again

tinfo i was focused on that size 13 shoe go ahead what did you say timfoil i wasn't listening you're going to get special size shoes after a certain you know a certain size well yeah Nike is Nike's have to wear 14s because they're two cushions. So I'm size 14. I have to get them special made. That's another thing. You got to start shopping at the big and tall shop. And for example, let's say you're tall and skinny.

Now, who's making the 30-38s, right? The 31, 32-way's 38 link. That's a tough buy. You don't just walk in and that's on the rack. So there's some issues. Now, so you're six, three, two a days. and Patrick, your average, like 5-7? Yeah, 5-7.

Highly contested height. Highly contested height. I thought you were 6-3, you said. No. 6-1. What do you say you are? Do you want me to show you my driver's license again? No, please don't.

None of us have met Patrick in person, shockingly, years of working together. Never met him in person. And yes, we want to see you, what does it say on your driver's license? It says 6-1. You could lie. six no you're the first person to lie to the government they just give them they don't measure you no no they don't you just put it on the paper yeah you know Florida's different we have standards here you have standards in

Florida that's breaking news sorry all right so do we agree 6566 that's that's like the ceiling that's the ideal ceiling yeah and my mom my mom's six feet almost and she always told me that I had to date tall girls because they need tall guys for tall girls. So leave all the ladies, leave the six, eight guys for the six feet women, you know. All right. Well, we were glad we were able to hit some of the hard-hitting news for you today

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