Will Cain Country - WWE Legend Mayor Glenn Jacobs & David Marcus: MSNBC Host STUNNED By Trump Witness! PLUS, New Hurricane Helene Fallout Info

Episode Date: October 3, 2024

Story #1: The full picture of devastation from Hurricane Helene in eastern Tennessee and western North Carolina. Checking in on the ground with the Mayor of Knox County and WWE Hall of Famer, Glenn "Kane" Jacobs. Story #2: A mini rabbit hole. Folks thought Senator J.D. Vance won the debate, but the dial testing did not agree. What does this tell us about authenticity? Plus, Will Cain Show fantasy football league participant, Congressman Byron Donalds goes on The Breakfast Club. Story #3: "Across The Country" with FOX News Columnist David Marcus. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Mayor Glenn Jacobs joins us today on the Will Kane show. Two, a mini rabbit hole, the Carrington effect. J.D. Vance's dial testing, and MSNBC loses control when a guest they thought would be all about January 6th is instead all about Donald Trump. three across the country with david marcus it's the will cane show streaming live at fox news dot com on the fox news youtube channel and the fox news facebook page always on demand just hit subscribe on youtube find the will cane show on facebook if you're watching on the fox news

facebook page or the fox news youtube page you can jump into the comment section but you can also become a member of our community by just jumping over to one of those two home pages for the Wilcane show and hitting subscribe. If you're listening to us on terrestrial radio in north of a dozen markets across the country, you can catch us whenever you like by subscribing on Apple or on Spotify. I socialized last night. I hung out with a lot of people who, based upon geography, based upon the place that I live, were incredibly impressed with J.D. Vance. were independent voters. Yesterday, we debated that question

with Rachel Campos, Duffy, Sean Duffy, and Charlie Hurt. Today, we have some dial testing that shows how independents felt about Tim Walts and J.D. Vance. And when you're socializing, you often talk about the future, and one of the big takeaways, one of the big impressions of J.D. Vance was

he might have a future, like a real future, like 2028. But whether or not it's J.D. Van, maybe Glenn Yonkin. Maybe we should give more attention to somebody that's in the Will Kane Show Fantasy Football League. Maybe we should just give a little more attention and listen to some amazing appearances

by Congressman Byron Donald's. That, and I fell into just a mini rabbit hole, I only dug about a foot deep, but I'll have to talk to you about the sun flare that might hit Earth tomorrow and has in the past. Let me introduce you to the Carrington effect. That's all coming up in just a little bit here

on the Wilcane show. But as I mentioned, the full picture of devastation, not just in western North Carolina, but in eastern Tennessee is coming into focus. I-40 torn out, almost all roads shut down. People having to be backpacked in and out, and of course, that may work for infants or maybe even pets, but it's a hard ask of an elderly person living in the mountains, totally cut off from electricity, water supply, and roads. The deaths, I think, are approaching. 150 people and in some instances this is being described as a one in five thousand year storm we're just beginning to understand and hopefully I know that we can count on neighbors I know that we can count on Americans but can we count on our leaders to put America first

let's get into that with story number one the mayor of Knox County, Tennessee. Also, for what it's worth, a W.W.E. Hall of Famer, formerly known as Kane is Glenn Jacobs. He's joined us in the past here on the Will Kane Show, and I'm honored to have him here today because it's an important moment for Eastern Tennessee and Western North Carolina. Mayor, thanks for being with us here. Can you give us some sense? Western North Carolina's gotten a ton of attention nationally. Maybe not as much attention on what's happened just over the Smoky Mountains, just over the ridge. Where, by the way, correct me if I'm wrong, all the rivers that we're talking about, the French Broad River, the Pigeon River, the Nolichucky River, flow into Tennessee.

So all that flood swelling ends up in your state and at least right next door to your county. How are things in eastern Tennessee? Yeah, thanks for having me on, Will, and you're exactly right. One of the big issues for us was the French Broad River here in Knox County. We had minimal damage. We just had to close a couple roads. You know, some folks had maybe had some water in their house, but not many. Obviously, if you have property damage, you know, it's a personal tragedy, but we do not see the wide-scale devastation that we saw in Upper East Tennessee.

Friday afternoon, just like everyone else, you know, I'm paying attention to news, and I'm seeing this happen. And in Unicoy County, Tennessee, which is in the upper very corner by North Carolina, their hospitals flooded. People were on the rooftop, the Tennessee Highway Patrol, as well as our great folks in Knox County Sheriff's Office, we're airlifting them off. of the rooftop of the hospital. Then a little later, we're about 50 miles from Coch County. That's much closer to us. Unicoin, those counties, about an hour and a half up the road. The Waterville Dam near Coat County was compromised.

Initially, it was reported that was burst. Thank God that didn't happen. But it was compromise, and there was water flowing around, flowing over it, had to evacuate downtown Newport, which I've never seen that before. And again, the sheriff sent our helicopter up to help airlift people off rooftops. They saved about 24 folks and their dogs, four dogs, having 24 people and four dogs, as well as just in Cock County, it was just devastation. One of the biggest issues is a lack of drinking water because obviously the groundwater has been contaminated. You know, you have

floodwater going through sewage treatment plants. So you have raw sewage. in the water now there, and then as well as whether toxins that might normally be in the water from industrial sites and those sort of things now in the water. In Coch County, I'm just more familiar with that. I've talked with their mayor yesterday. In Coch County, they did get their water plant back on. However, it's probably going to be at least another week before the water safe to drink, so they're still under a boil order in the more remote parts of the county. And these counties are all pretty rural and pretty poor places. They just don't have a lot of resources. But a lot of people are on wells, the groundwater is contaminated, so the well water is contaminated.

The electricity is back on in Cock County. Thank goodness. But some of their roads are still out. We sent crews up to help just with emergency repairs on their roads, as well as just organization for the response. Our health, it's things you don't think about, too. Our health department is up there helping with inoculations for tetanus and hepatitis, obviously, because if people are in that water and have open sores or whatever. whatever, you know, they're going to get diseases from all the horrible things in the water.

So it's a pretty bad situation. However, I would, I mean, just the outpouring has been just unbelievable from, you know, churches and nonprofits and businesses, just individuals. And my hat's also off to the local government and the state officials who have responded very well as best they can, you know, in these truly overwhelming circumstances. let's talk about that for just a moment mayor so you know i almost could hear that in your voice when you began that last point you made about the help that you receive and i never want to paint myself as an expert or but having dove into what happened in lehina maui just over a year ago now it's what it was my biggest takeaway it really was it's like if you ever really want to understand

human nature at least the nature of community go to some place that's been hit really hard by something that was unexpected and that was natural. And you will see the best of man. You will see neighbor for neighbor, community for community. And I'm happy to hear that Knox County hasn't had that much damage. But what you end up becoming, I would assume, is a staging ground. You become a staging ground for help. You become a staging ground for the government because I know you're a hundred and some some odd miles from you know upper upper northeast Tennessee but you know an hour from some of the ones that are further south where a lot of this damage is what I want to ask you then as as you've experienced that humility or seen it and you or that appreciation of human nature and you are a

staging ground no one wants to throw anybody under the bus and the blame game and all that you know honestly isn't productive especially in in the immediacy of these things but can you give me a sense Like, who's there for you? Is it neighbors? Is it local governments? Is it state? Is it FEMA? Is it the federal government?

Like how much support? Where is it coming from for you in Tennessee? Well, initially, the response is always from a governmental side. It's always going to be from state and local. You know, folks think that, and this is nothing against, you know, the people at FEMA. Personally, I'm not a fan of the bureaucracy. But, you know, I'm sure that the boots on the ground people, you know, care very much and doing the best that they can, you know, but FEMA is not like Superman that puts on its cape and

flies in and starts doing all this stuff, you know, just naturally takes a while to respond to something like this. And I do think this will end up being bigger than Hurricane Katrina, I think it'll be more expensive. It's just, it's just, the geographical area is just much larger than what happened during Katrina. And, but anyway, you know, that they're just, FEMA is limited because, you know, what happens is there's an, initial response from the state and local agencies. And a lot of it is also coordinating with, you know, the nonprofits and people that do this, you know, do this for a living. The churches always step up. You know, when you think about Hurricane Katrina, and not to make it political,

but, you know, everyone blamed George Bush and FEMA's response. However, again, that initial response comes from the state and local authorities. You know, We forget the Green Hagan, who was mayor of New Orleans, he went to jail for corruption. You know, so by the time Fina got there, it was already out of hand. And I think what's happened here is, yeah, it's been, you know, mistakes are going to get made. They just are. But the difference is you have doers here. You have people are like, we're going.

You know, at one point, I was talking about we need to help with some stuff up in Cox County, legally how we do that. And we decided basically it was better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission. So, you know, we got it all done, but we already had people rolling, you know, before we had like the mutual aid contract sign and that sort of stuff. And, you know, and that's often where people point, I said, well, you know, you did this. Well, people's eyes are at risk here. We have to do something.

Our neighbors and our friends. So, yeah, it's just, you know, we've gotten help from just all over the country. We're the volunteer state. And it's often in the darkest hour that the volunteer spirit shines most brightly, right? Right? But it's not just Tennessee. It's come from all over the country and really all over the world. It is so awesome. And I love how you said it's doers. I mean, I see Congressman Corey Mills. He's very forward-facing on this, but I think he's a good illustration. He's working with Mercury won charities and doing what they can. And it's just, what it does is it brings out the doers to your point. On the note of FEMA and the government, I also appreciate what you have to say about it's a hard task. They're not Superman. if there is room for criticism, and I'll do this, you don't have to, but it seems to be

beggaring for resources when we're spending so many resources in other places. When you, when you see Americans, then if your excuse is ever, I don't have enough resources to deal with this problem, but you tell Americans, I've got this hundreds of million dollars going to resettling illegal immigrants through FEMA funds. Now you've got a problem. Okay, now you've got a real problem and you need to understand, explain to us, help us understand why Americans don't come first. Now, I'll wait, and we'll see exactly how this plays out in Tennessee. but um and you know i don't know if you want to address that well yeah i 100% agree um you know before we're spending money on other places we need to take care of our own people first uh

and it does seem like uh from washington um we'd have to be the world's policemen when we have our own problems here at home we have 35 trillion dollars in debt and you know we're shipping military hardware and tens of billions of dollars all across the world and then my Marcus is coming out and saying that FEMA doesn't have enough money to get through hurricane season. That is utterly unacceptable. And then another issue, Mayor, I want to. I'm sorry, well, but just another issue that I found from the federal government is a lack of communication with the Biden administration.

You know, when Donald Trump was in the White House, there was constant communication actually with the locals. And I remember in 2019, we had pretty bad flooding in Knox County. And I had been to Washington, been invited for some things. And I'd made a friendship with the then deputy director of intergovernmental affairs. So I'm flying around in the sheriff's helicopter, you know, live streaming the flooding in Knox County. And I get a text, hey, man, if you guys need anything, you let me know, we can help you navigate through FEMA, whatever. And this is coming from the White House.

You know, that doesn't happen for whatever reason. And maybe it's a Republican Democrat thing. I don't know. But that hasn't been happening under Biden-Harris administration. At this point, that would actually be my biggest criticism of them. So last thing, I want everyone to the best of our own ability to understand the context of what we're talking about here. And I think last time you and I were together, I told you, I lived in eastern Tennessee for a good six months during COVID. And so I got to know the area, not well, but I got to know the area to some extent.

So when you talk about the kind of communities up there in those mountains, you are talking about very rural, very poor, sometimes isolated even with roads and electricity. But now you cut all that off and you got a real logistical issue in saving these people. And I wanted to, so what I read is that many of these rivers went up 13 feet. That's a lot, right? And then the TVA through your history has built dams to help when it comes to flooding, prepare things. this so douglas lake is one of those big reservoirs prepared to control floodwaters up 22 feet um i don't know if that helps people understand exactly the amount of water we're talking about here but the biggest the biggest thing i saw was a tva authority a figure said we're not talking about a once in a

generation storm we're not talking about a once in a millennial storm we're talking about something that is a once in five thousand year level of rain and storm here for the carolinas and Tennessee. Yeah. I mean, when, when Mother Nature does this, it, there's only so much human beings can do. My family's actually from Jefferson County and on Douglas Lake. I've lived there 30 years on and off, and I have never seen it like it is now. They were releasing at one point out of Douglas Dam, 75,000 cubic feet of water per second. And the issue is, you know, it wasn't the dam's burst. It was that the water is overflowing. And at some point, they actually have, you know, they actually have to allow the water to go through the dams at a high rate, because if they don't,

then the dam does burst. And then what we saw would be exponentially worse, because we would literally have a tidal wave moving down through the Great Smoky Mountains, which would be, you know, as bad as all this is, it would just be much, much, much, much worse. Well, Mayor Glenn Jacobs, we appreciate you giving us an update, putting some focus on eastern Tennessee, which is also suffering. I think if the number is 11 people have died in Tennessee from this flooding. And yeah, we wish you the best. Our prayers are with you guys. And if there's anything at all we can do, you know, let me know, let, and I'll let our listeners know. Thank you. Right now, just send bottled water, you know, and so many people have reached out. I'd like to

give a shout out to my friend Robbie Starbuck over in Nashville, who's just been doing tremendous work on social media. He's gotten star leaking and it's over. Literally just dropping supplies from his followers on social media, you know. And if nothing else, you know, that gives people just a great sense of hope. So thank you to everybody who's helped, and it has been enormous. That's great. All right, Mayor Glenn Jacob. Thank you so much. Thank you. All right. By the way, Nellie M on YouTube says FEMA does not have the funds to make it through the season. The Biden Harris FEMA spent over a billion dollars on funding illegal aliens. It reports it, as the mayor pointed out, Alejandro Mayork is saying that FEMA doesn't have enough money,

but FEMA spent, I don't know if it's a billion dollars. I saw a figure in the 600, 700 million range on resettling illegal immigrants coming into this country. And as the mayor of Knox County points out, how many untold trillions headed to places like Ukraine. There are those that make the argument, like the one-time debate upon it we had on the show, Destiny, that it's not neither or that we have enough money to do everything. We can fund Ukraine and we can take care of Americans. Well, if that's the case, somebody should notify Alejandro Mayorkas. Somebody should notify the people in Tennessee and North Carolina. Six things that caught my attention, including a mini rabbit hole of the Carrington effect.

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Join the Willisha. As I mentioned, I socialized last night, got to have some conversations, school parents, and I will tell you, I don't know that it was a unanimous conversation. I don't know if it was ubiquitous. I don't know if everybody said it, but it seems like everybody that had something to say was incredibly complimentary of vice presidential candidate J.D. Vance. It was less about Tim Walts and more just about, wow, really blown away by J.D. Vance. as was I and I shared that with you yesterday but I always try to approach the analysis of a debate

or even I'm not sure we're even talking about a debate I think we're at some point talking about the way you're read the way you're perceived the way you come off I try to have some humility because obviously I understand that you know 350 million eyes don't see the way or 700 million eyes two for each, don't see it the way that I see it through my two eyes. And so we ran through some polling yesterday and the media see some focus groups on how it played Vance versus Waltz. For example, Frank Luntz, who often does focus groups, showed us that 12 out of 14 members of his focus group thought it was a win for J.D. Vance. But this morning, over at Fox News.com, they had some dial testing that showed J.D. Vance and Tim Walts

through a variety of questions. Those questions included conversations about abortion, but not just abortion, about also issues that would play to Vance, like immigration. And concerningly, a lot of the dial testing showed independence tracking with Democrats.

Now, here's why I think that's important. A lot of the same people last night who were like, J.D. Vance won. said after the Trump-Harris debate, Trump lost. Now, I'm not sure that played out the way that everyone thought so, or at least to the extent everyone thought, in the days after the Donald Trump-Kamla Harris debate. But those very same people, and I put myself in that group,

who thought Donald Trump lost, thought J.D. Vance won. And I thought, oh, I need to be careful. Because in those days after that debate, dial testing said, no, independence were with Donald Trump, especially when he talked about the number one issue concerning Americans, the economy. And in opposite, when it came to J.D. Vance, independence tracked with Tim Walts. There are like 10 clips with 10 different moments from that debate up at foxnews.com. Here is one that I will show you, will keep my microphone up,

and I'll try to explain for those listening on radio or on podcast, exactly what's happening in the dial testing. I got a 17-year-old, and he witnessed a shooting at a community center playing volleyball. Those things don't leave you. As a member of Congress, I sat in my office surrounded by dozens of the Sandy Hook parents, and they were looking at my seven-year-old picture on the wall. As Tim Walts is explaining this, independence or tracking with Democrats. And look, I'm a hundred.

The Gulf isn't wide on this particular question. The vice president is. But they're almost in lockstep. Second Amendment is there. But our first responsibilities to our kids to figure this out. This is a good start to the conversation. I 100% believe that Senator Vance hates it when these kids, it's abhorrent, and it breaks your heart. I agree with that.

But that's not far enough when we know there are things that worked. Kamala Harris, as an attorney general, worked on this issue. She knows that it's there. Take it down there. None one's trying to scaremonger and say, we're taking your guns, but I ask all of you out there. on this is the yellow line of dial testing represents independence the blue line represents Democrats and the red line represents Republicans I just use this one as an example I don't know if that clip included if we've gone further to a day's response where he says

Tim I'm so sorry to hear that your son witnessed that shooting but the point of what we just showed you on the screen is it kind of held true no matter the issue it kind of held true whether or not they were talking about abortion or immigration that the yellow line tracked the blue line that independence tracked democrats and it just made me wonder you know including myself if the same people that thought Donald Trump lost thought jd vance one could we be off twice now we'll tell you part of the conversation as well last night was wow this guy's so good jd vance is so good that he is now now vaulted himself for 2028.

And maybe he's in the same category as Glenn Yonkin. And maybe he is the inheritor of the mantle of the future of republicanism. Well, I would say, I think that's all true. I think those are two great names. But I ran across this clip. Congressman Byron Donald's is in the Will Kane Show, friends of the Will Kane Show, Fantasy Football League. Boys in New York, he's doing really well, right?

Like, what is Byron Donald's in the fantasy football league? He's like three and one. And I think he's like top third of the league. He's a certified ball knower. I think I took him down last week, though. Let's see. Two days, you're not good. I'm not good.

James and Patrick are good. No, I just noticed this. Two days, you're like two and two, and you're like you look respectable at first glance in the standings. Your point total, it's awful. You're like one of the worst in the league. You're worse than me. Well, it's a good thing I'm a three-time winner in my other league,

so I'm just saying. That's what the only thing people love hearing. The only thing people love hearing more than fantasy football talk is my other league fantasy football talk. You cheating on us? I got it here. I'll go away now. All right. So I came across this despite his ball knowledge, or maybe as an illustration of his ball knowledge,

Byron Donald's went on the Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club is a very, very popular morning radio show in New York City. It's urban talk. It's urban radio. You know that Urban is a euphemism for black. we all know that rap and it's hosted by Charlemagne the God I can't remember the names of the other two hosts

but I know that Angela Rye Strategist for Democrats was on the show I don't think she's a regular host I think she like Byron Donald's was a guest and they started talking about politics and they started talking about inflation I want you to listen to Byron Donald's I would argue we're not really thriving right now

this inflation which by the way was brought to us by Kamala Harris. It has really slowed down people from being able to excel. By Kamala? Yes. Vice President. Oh,

Oh, Charlemagne. It's still a president. Charlemagne, listen, man. When Joe Biden wanted to do his American rescue plan, Kamala Harris was the tie-breaking vote in the United States Senate. She broke the tide

and started disinflation that has hurt so many people in our country. Everybody listening to your show. It's not true? First of all, you're sure you want to go there. You show you want to go there? You show you want to go there?

All right. So there's Byron Donald. So first observation is, I ask you listening. I might ask you guys in New York as well. Am I being a hypocrite? Because first of all, what I appreciate about Byron Donuts, and I know the congressman, and I know that the congressman loves sports,

and I know that he loves first take. And when we first met, that's immediately what he wanted to talk about. And I know, as well, he's a fan like me of the Dallas Cowboys. And so, you know, in, I don't know, any better way to say this than that Donald's is a dude

all right and I've talked about this and okay I just there are guys who are dudes and there are guys who are not dudes and I don't care if you're black I don't care if you're white I don't care if you're Asian that is a divide

that you can apply to any group of people any group of men you're a dude or you're not a dude and it doesn't surprise me that Byron Donald's can drop into that environment and be who he is, which is a dude. But here's why I ask you if I'm being hypocritical. He's doing code switching a little bit.

You know, like he is meeting the audience and the host where they are, right? He calls Charlemagne man, right? Which is an informality and it's a, and when you call somebody man, you're actually connecting with him, right? Every guy knows that. He called you, when you said, come on, man, or what. Donald's called me, man? Yeah.

Yeah, well, we connect. But that's a thing. So here's my question for you. I don't, well, so your point may be, James. He doesn't code switch. He's kind of that same dude. Well, now he's talking to Will Kane or Charlemagne the God. I just, I feel like he's authentic.

But if Kamala Harris drops into that environment, starts changing upper accent, I feel like it's inauthent. So am I being hypocritical or is Donald's consistent in being that same dude no matter where he's talking? I think he, his, um, changing of tone is more like, hey, how am I going to talk when I'm with my buddies on the couch versus how am I going to talk when I'm in a meeting with Kevin McCarthy. And that's a little more I think we relate to that a little more as opposed to like I don't know. I mean I'll

be honest. I sometimes have a little more of a southern accent when I'm around more southern people that I went to school with and it just comes out and I don't know. It happens and I'll get called out for it. It's an authentic but two days. Two days he does that around me? No no I do I think. Sometimes

I catch myself kind of having to. You do? Yeah. having a little like Texas in my when I'm talking just because I'm like listen to you talk all the time but I think the same thing with my accent my accent is fluid people have said like half the time I hear why don't you have an accent other times I hear why do you have a big accent

but I actually think James is on to something I'll put this to you two days but like I think that what Donald's is doing is not trying to fake a connection with a group of people he doesn't have a connection authentically

he is formal and informal. And we all do that. And when you're in a formal environment, you talk kind of a certain way. And when you're an informal environment, and by the way, I try to make this an informal environment. You know, this, the Will Kane show is informal. So if he calls me, man, great.

But I think he's doing something that we can all identify with, which is, all right, the breakfast club, pretty informal. So let me take it to him the way that I would if I was sitting on the couch with my friends. No, it's true. especially a radio environment like that I think that's just how Donald's is like just talking to him off air too

he's just kind of like that and I think some people come out on our show and don't get it as much and some people do they see that relaxed environment and some people like you could break down people's walls pretty good to my guests guess exactly and like Dan Patrick used to do that

my old boss used to do that you could break down somebody and get someone to kind of like go into who they actually are instead of having that kind of like wall up and that barrier a little too too formal, but I think Donald's like that. I'll be real. It's one of my goals.

Maybe even a subconscious goal when I talk to somebody because I'm just striving for authenticity. Like, who are you really? Like, let's just kind of, I hate the canned talking point feel of a conversation. I'd walk away, you know, at a bar. I'd walk away if that's the way that somebody was talking to me. So back to Donald's in the Breakfast Club. Then they got into substance. And I just think this shows, at first,

I think he shows so much talent in connecting with people where they are and then such a mastery of the issues. Here he is continued on the Breakfast Club. Larry Summers wrote an op-ed back in 2021. Larry Summers was a Treasury Secretary for Bill Clinton. He was an economic advisor to Barack Obama. He said that the American Rescue Plan that Joe Biden wanted, that Kamala Harris was the tie-breaking vote in the United States Senate, would create a massive inflation that we have not seen in a generation. Well, guess what? Larry Summers was correct.

You know who also was correct, Angela? I was because I was in the budget committee when they brought the bill. And I said in that committee it's going to cause massive inflation. That's what happened. So the problem we have in our economy today is that prices have gone up massively. Wages adjusted for inflation is down. People's pocketbooks are hurting. All right, there he is, just pulling receipts.

Literally, he pulled receipts out of his jacket pocket, handed him to Charlemagne. on Angela Rye. I just think it's masterful. But here's what I, let me tie now this all together. I'd be curious how he dialed tested in that. And I think that we, me and the guys here in New York, I think we might be stumbling on to if there is a shortcoming for J.D. Vance, what that might be. So I was trying to consider guys, like, why would independence track Democrats? Okay, obviously you have to first address, is it the issues? Like, is it literally? literally the things coming out of his mouth. I'm a little skeptical that that's what it is, okay?

Because as I've explained on the show, it rarely is about what you're saying. And like, like, 5 to 10% is about the words coming out of your mouth. You know, 80% how you look and another 20% how you sound. So I worry, first I thought, well, is Vance too polished? Like if all the people who are, you know, wrong about Donald Trump, like J.D. Vance, are they not appreciating the chaotic, polished nature of Donald Trump and they're over-indexing? Oh, here's a guy who really does this in a really

smart, polished way. And are they not in touch then with something that people actually want? But then I thought, I don't know. Like, polish isn't bad. I think you might be on to it two days when you said it. That sense of a wall. When I'm listening to Donald's, I think I'm listening to Donald's like that is who he is always and I can appreciate that feeling regardless of the words coming out of his mouth you certainly would have to feel that way with Donald Trump you may hate it but you would probably also say man there's no wall in there's no filter with Donald Trump and I wonder if JD despite his polish despite his intellect despite his really objectively good ability to debate has a wall that is keeping people from connecting to him specifically

independence. Tenfoil, I saw you want, you had something. What's up? So I was just thinking about this as far as like other Democrat politicians. And Akazzo Cortez, I think, can get away with it because she's a theater kid. And so performance is something natural for her. Whereas like Hillary Clinton, we know she is fake. performance. Okay, so maybe you're saying this, but performance is tricky. You know, I have a buddy who's been on this show who's a trial lawyer, and he's a really good trial lawyer. And he talks about the best, like one of the best to ever do trial law is Jerry Spence. I don't expect James to know who that is. He's way too young. You guys are all probably too. Jerry Spence is a famous trial lawyer.

He wore like a leather jacket with the, what is it, it's not, you call it tassels, the, the strings coming off Western style. He's like a Wyoming guy. um he can he helped pioneer study you have to connect with the jury emotionally like you have to and if you do you'll slaughter the guy who's sitting out there you know trying to rely on the the foundation of the supposed facts but this is what my friend tells me imitators are awful if you're not good at the performance it's a huge turnoff it's really bad so my key look behind the curtain here like I try not to perform

that's honestly what I you know I watched Mr. McMahon on Netflix it's like a six part documentary series I'm fascinated by it man I'm fascinated by WWE

I really am and tinfoil Pat's been part of like pushing me in this direction and our friend Bobby Burk at outkick like life is WWE it really is and in so many ways it's such a good little

you know stage on which we play humanity out in simplistic terms and, you know, they talk about it in there. You just have to connect emotionally, and all you want is heat, and it doesn't matter if it's love or hate. It doesn't matter. You want them to feel.

I don't remember exactly why I brought up WWE, but. The McMahon performance. Heels in, heels of baby faces. I know. Oh, I know what they said in the documentary that Vince McMahon, is he Vince in real life, or is he? Mr. McMahon the character, right? And somebody said something smart, they go,

Mr. McMahon is Vince dialed up to 20 on a 10-point scale? Like, there's always an element of truth, but you turn up. And I would tell you, like people say to me, Stephen A, is that really how he is? I don't think he's performing to the level of being fake, but

he's turning himself up to 20. So my thing is, I've tried not, first of all, I try never to be fake. And if I'm turning myself up, I mean, involuntary, I try to keep it to a minimum. My goal is to be real because I want to connect. That's my currency, connecting with people.

I like it. I enjoy it. I don't like feeling like I'm getting a version of someone so that they get something from me, whether I'm in the audience or I'm in this side of the microphone. And I guess what I'm trying to tie this all together to is, therefore Donald's, connects with me when I see that because I feel like that's him. And I'm wondering about that for Vance. Is that what is, is that the problem? To your point today, is it at the wall? Well, there's a fine line with a politician being too relatable, but you'd want someone that is

smarter than you just a little bit, right? Or knows a little bit more than you. So it's a fine line. They have to walk with, you know, stumbling over words or saying something wrong. You know, if you're dial testing in that moment, that's what you're looking. looking at you want something relatable but you want someone that just kind of just has that little lecture that hey you're like hey intelligence is not a connector you know bernay brown's a famous writer she's on the left um and she said this and i always remember it vulnerability is the key to human connection people connect through their fallibility and you know in intellect which seems to be jd's primary currency intellect is not something people connect

with. They just do not. And I know this, ESPN tried this over and over. Like, you know, look, Pablo Tori and Bomani Jones, really smart guys. Show didn't work because people aren't there for like smart. They are there for other reasons. And if you give them smart, oh, that's added value. And I think it works the same way in politics. You can't sell people smart. Smart is often a turnoff, right? That doesn't mean we don't appreciate smart. It just means it can't. be your that's not the way you break through the wall that can't be how you walk through the front door it's not the way you try to connect to people I'm just thinking out loud on all this because I'm fascinated by the way people respond to

other people and are responding to J.D. Vance James had a good idea I think I think there's a rabbit hole we can go down with here too we we should have dial testing for when you're talking to a new girl at a bar and see like how you're doing because like it's it has nothing to do with what you're saying It's a great idea. It's how you present. You could be speaking gibberish and all of a sudden, you just see the lines as you're talking. But it could be going up just because your presentation and your body language and your smiles working.

Okay, so Mark Zuckerberg, Mark Zuckerberg said by like 2030 the phone will be gone. I just saw this other day that you'll be wearing glasses. Oh, my gosh. Which if you're wearing glasses, yeah, if you're wearing glasses, how long do you're wearing contacts, right? So you've got your contacts in. You're hitting on a girl at the bar, right? And you start seeing your dial testing. from the other.

You're like, shit, I'm out. And, yeah, I mean, you are going to look like Tim Walts. You're going to be flip-flot. You're going to be nervous. You're going to be stop starting. You're going to be all over the place. But here's the other aspect of that.

A lady, therefore, never has to figure out how to softly let you down. She can just slowly turn down her dial. However we do at that point, right? Like, I don't know. Is that like on her phone? And you're talking to her, and you see your line going down.

You're like, oh, my God. She's putting this. in as we speak or or having an argument with like your wife or something you dial test the argument you're like all right i'm not winning this i'm not winning this you'll never be up i mean i would be up for it on this show like that's why i love bringing the comment section in hearing from you guys i like knowing what resonates what connects where your thoughts are we should just put a dial test up here on the will game show but even that like just think about how that would destroy your confidence what if jd and tim that what if jd and tim waltz could see that in real

time during the debate like you'd be a puddle yeah you have to ignore it i think when you're you have to ignore it i think when you're out of bar you could see you could you could you could tell when your dials up and your dials down at least like i think you're right you think that good point some guys some guys can't james yeah yeah some guys can't some guys have no dial testing whatsoever uh speaking of no dial testing how about your chief union negotiation for the port strike uh reports coming out now he's got he just sold a 74 foot yacht Elon Musk tweeted he this guy has more yachts than I do he makes close to a million dollars a year the guy negotiating the port closures that have now threatened you know uh scarcity and bananas and everything else like

huge amount this is a big deal and the so brazen he's so brazen I will cripple America remember that by the way I think we have that we had trouble with it yesterday but I wanted it I didn't have it. I didn't want today, but two a day's delivers. Here's the port. Here's the chief negotiator. They're going to be like this. Who's going to win here in the long run? You're better off sitting down and let's get a contract and let's move on with this world. And today's world, I'll cripple you. I will cripple you and you have no idea what that means. Nobody does. I swear that guy is straight out of Sopranos. And we have this now. I believe This is from the New York Post.

This is his home. He has a home. I don't know how many square feet that is. What would you guys guess? 7,000? Yeah, that's got to be enough. 7,000 square foot home? That's probably like in the 65.

It is 7,000, yeah. I looked it up. It is 7,000? Is that what it says? Yeah. I mean, he's got a giant swimming pool. He's got an outdoor bar. He's got a five-car garage.

Oh, look at this. He has a whole building that's an outdoor. sauna. Wow. A skyway. Look at this. He has a skyway to the garage, so he pulls his cars under the skyway and into his five-car garage. He has a Bentley. He's got a

Bentley convertible. This dude living large doing whatever he's doing for America's ports. I've seen some reporting that he's also in the past negotiated or suggested that we should have toll booths.

with toll booth change takers right because those are union jobs you put union guys out of business instead of the easy pass right no easy passes got to go backwards that's the thing about you you got to figure out how to not save american jobs but create american jobs because you can't bring back yesterday you can only be there tomorrow for americans all right i put this in the headline today and i think it's an absolutely fascinating moment r e melburgh of ms NBC has a panel. On this panel, it includes Peter Navarro, formerly the Trump administration. He's silent in this clip. So if you're listening on radio or on podcast, I'll tell you his facial expressions. We're watching. Watch Peter Navarro. But he's not the one being questioned by Ari Milberg.

It's a guy who was a witness against Donald Trump when it comes to January 6th and said that the threat to democracy of Donald Trump in the past is the greatest threat to America. That's not what happened this time on MSNBC? Watch. Why was it important for you to say no more Trump because of his January 6th conduct? And do you stand by that? No, I don't stand by it. And I'll tell you why. I've now lived four years under the Biden-Harris policies. And I have to say that those policies are not only becoming an existential threat to our country's way of life, but to our allies as well.

So when you have to, this is, I'll let you finish, but this is so striking. You said it was a no for me after that, January 6th, and here we are right now. I did. And you're saying it's a yes for you. It is a yes for me. It is an absolute yes for me. That is how badly the Biden-Harris team have prosecuted their job. But the whole point you seem to be making was that January 6th and that kind of attack on democracy is bigger than any policy.

I am seeing so many attacks on democracy that eclipse January 6th. Did not see that coming. It's a, I think, very, very valid substantive argument. What's a greater threat to democracy? What's a greater existential threat to America? The continued decline under the weight of sometimes corrupt and often socialistic and would be communist policies to drive America into the same experiment as the rest of humanity. We're the great exception on the face of the earth, both over time and in geography,

meaning I give you history and I give you the world. We are the great exception. We are the defender of liberty of individual rights of man. And the threat to that of us just becoming like everybody else under the hubris and lack of humility of a group of people that think they can engineer a better world, despite the failures of the attempts to do so in other places, threatens the greatest experiment in human history. I agree with this guy. Ari Melburgh, taken a little bit aback that it's not all about January 6th.

Stepping aside my own personal feelings, this is my attempt at just objective analysis. I don't think January 6th is the motivating voting issue for a lot of people in America. I think it is for those already with Kamala Harris. and already with Tim Waltz, I do not think it is for independence.

While we're talking about mainstream media, I want to show you, CNN has a headline up about the three the October surprises that are coming in succession, including the three that we've just experienced the last couple of days. Porch strike, awful hurricane, and devastation in America, and advent potentially doorstep of a war in the Middle East. and this is the way it's styled in CNN. Events threatened to conspire against Harris.

What passive voice. What a victim of circumstance. Events threatened to conspire against Harris. Well, I have to break some news to CNN breaking news. This is the job of president. And by extension, vice president. Kamala Harris is the sitting vice president of the United States. We elect someone for how they,

respond to events. We elect someone who we hope has good judgment in circumstances. George Bush wants to be the education president. He ends up being the guy who has to deal with 9-11. You elect leaders, wisdom, good judgment, and the ability to lead

through quote unquote events. Finally, on the things that caught my attention today, this tweet from a guy who respects, I don't think we've had him yet on the Will Kane show, but Brett Weinstein, you know, he's a professor, I believe he's in the Pacific Northwest, he's a frequent guest on Joe Rogan.

He tweeted out the following. He tweeted out, heads up, folks. This is a potentially very serious situation. A huge solar flare erupted on the sun at 522 a.m. Pacific time is the largest flare in this 11-year cycle. It did produce a coronal mass ejection plasma burst. it came from a sunspot cluster that is directly facing earth.

All those factors are bad for us. But there are other things we need to know. And he says, stay tuned to Sun Weatherman. Sun Weatherman is a guy, I guess he reports on this kind of stuff. And he says then, first blast to arrive tomorrow night. The second, bigger one, will hit this weekend. The update, in case you're now worried about the end of the world, is Sun Weatherman says satellite data is not terribly concerned about the CMA from this giant

flare. So I got me wondering because it came up in the comments section and with one of my producers. Um, what the hell are they talking about? It caught me wondering, uh, sunflares. I listened to a podcast once called, I think it was called the end of the world. I loved it. It was like 10-part series on all the things that could be existential threats to the world. And like this guy goes through everything like aliens, like a meteor, like climate change. He talks about all of them, and tells you, are they, you know, probability-wise and where we are and what we know about the world and the universe? Are they real threats? Just as an example, climate change is not. By any scientist's estimation, an existential threat to humanity. It's just not.

Existential threat to humanity means in the human race. He does talk about in that podcast, Sun, the Sun, like whatever the Sun, I guess, maybe does this. Like, what does it mean to it? So I started looking at, like, okay, we're talking about a geomagnetic storm, that's what is a coronal mass ejection. That almost sounds like inappropriate for mass media. Coronal mass ejection. I think you've got to be careful where you say that. Probably best to just say it around scientists.

But it's plasma, solar wind, and it can come to Earth. And you're like, okay, come on. Like, what's the point of this? But it's happened. And that's my mini rabbit hole for the day. The Carrington event. September 1st, 1859. A geomagnetic storm was associated with a very bright solar flare.

It was observed and recorded by two British astronomers, Richard Carrington and Richard Hodgson. It's the first recorded solar flare. Of course, there's more, but first recorded. And what happened? Gold miners in Colorado were woken up in the middle of the night from huge auroras. All across Earth, you could see these huge auroras, Aurora Borealis. It lit up. The telegraphs, the telegraph systems went down, blacked out,

geomagnetically induced current from the electromagnetic field, failed telegraph systems all over Europe and North America. Back then, that's really all they were dealing with to the extent that they had electricity out. And so it's happened, it's happened. If you go to Wikipedia, you can see there's been solar storms in 1921, 38, 41, 59, 60. smaller ones at other times, as well. But a Carrington effect, solar flare,

Carrington event, solar flare. I don't know, just something to put on your radar, maybe even this weekend. We don't want to traffic in hysteria, but it might be interesting and just something worth knowing as we fall just a little bit down into the rabbit hole. All right, across the country,

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It's the Will Kane Show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel on the Fox News Facebook page. Subscribe YouTube. Subscribe, Spotify. Subscribe Apple. David Marcus is a columnist at Fox News. He's the author of Shared, The COVID Lives that crushed a nation. He's also been traveling across the country talking to voters, going to bars, going

restaurants talking to the people last week we had david on he talked about some of the conversations he's had in places like pennsylvania i understand this week david you spent some some time in maryland yeah how you doing well it's good to talk to you i mean i this might be pointless given the solar flares but you know it's always nice to chat anyway um yeah so i i've spent a little bit of time in in maryland maryland's obviously not a presidential swing state but there is a competitive Senate race. Former Republican Governor Larry Hogan against the Democrat, Angela, also Brooks. It's interesting because Hogan has not endorsed Trump. Trump has endorsed Hogan. There's also a couple of competitive House races, including Kimberly Klesek, who I think

some of your viewers and listeners might remember from sort of walking around Baltimore and high heels trying to get people to register Republican. Her district now includes Carroll County, which is a farming community. I took my son to the county fair there. It's like the giant combines that look like dinosaurs and stuff. It leans red, which is rare for Baltimore. And it is at the heart of a major controversy there that I think most Americans aren't aware of, which is called, it's a project called a Piedmont Reliability Project. And basically, the Democrat government of Maryland wants to run hundreds of miles of power lines right across the farms, right across Maryland into Virginia and they want to use eminent domain to tell the farmers who don't want it

that they have to. So the farmers are outraged. They're organizing. They absolutely are going to plan to vote. And I think that's something to keep an eye on because in a non-swing state, you have a lot of people who don't vote. They just say, what's my, it doesn't matter. Now, I hear that a lot. I think it's wrong. And there's reasons why it's wrong. But this Piedmont Reliability project is firing Republicans up. in the state. And I really think it can help Hogan and Klasik a lot. Wow. That's not a state to your point that we pay attention to often. Yeah, it's one of these little things that you find when you go around where it's like

it's never going to be national news. But listen, this could flip the Senate, right? And you've got Kamala Harris saying she's ready to get rid of the filibuster. So, you know, it really gets that granular, right? If Hogan can pull that off, you know, we're a lot safer as far as keeping. the filibuster than if if also Brooks gets in there and just becomes another sort of Democrat rubber stamp. So these are the kinds of issues that are important to local places, but also can really have a huge national impact. I want to talk to you about two local places. First, let's talk about, I believe you traveled at some point during your travels with Charlie John Steinbeck cataloging where American voters are experience. I think you traveled to Arizona. And,

And I'm curious, did you make it to Arizona, David? I didn't. I made it to California. You went to California. I went to San Francisco. What I wanted to ask about is I had a conversation this week with the guy talking about the Senate, to your point, who said, when we look at swing states and we look at states where there's a race for the Senate, a lot of people have written off Arizona and said Kerry Lake's not going to win. I had a conversation with a guy in the know this week that said, that's not true. There is some very interesting polling internals that Kerry Lake has a real chance to win Arizona.

Everybody's looking at Tim Shehee in Montana. That's one that Republicans hope to pick up to swing the Senate. You just brought up Maryland. But not many people, some have brought up Nevada, Sam Brown, War Vett. Justice will win West Virginia. It seems like, and justice in West Virginia. What do you, I don't, you were in California. So you didn't get to talk to people in Arizona.

I just wonder if you think there's anything to that. There's more. Maybe even Arizona. Maybe. I mean, you know, I'm fairly skeptical of polling, so I always think that, you know, sort of anything could happen. I remember, you know, and it's interesting that you're hearing that from people on the ground because I remember in 22 in like June or July, I started hearing a buzz in just

in like the bagel places and stuff in New York about Lee Zeldin. And I was saying to all my editors, like, I'm hearing some stuff on the ground here. And they're like, come on, Dave, it's a 35 point race. we can't waste any ink on that and we're like all right you know a month later it's shrinking it's shrinking he almost won that race um so it's certainly possible that that lake could do that uh you know lake has lake is a very sort of like electric personality i don't know if you've spent any time with her but i remember being in the green room at CPAC and she walked in and and sort of owned the room uh so look it's she's swimming against the stream and i don't know how good her sort of

ground operation is um but yeah i mean she she's got a shot arson is so strange though because you know you have cinema you have like the legacy of mccane and the mccain legacy is not particularly enamored of lake so there's there's a lot of moving parts there all right you are you live in west virginia and i know it's not exactly next door to what's just happened tragically in north Carolina and Tennessee and South Carolina, and I don't want to turn, I don't want to turn a tragedy into policies. By the way, on that note, I'm just, I'm so grossed out by that. And I'm, I'm, I'm, I had to tweet about it yesterday because some hack lefty, who I'd never heard of, but I guess he kind of does this kind of stuff. It pointed out Donald Trump's go fund me and said that go, that Donald Trump

had raised three and a half million dollars, only three percent was going to go to the hurricane, or yeah the hurricane victims flood victims and immediately i saw that and i was like that that doesn't sound right to me i've done a lot of work with go fund me they did a they they were our facilitator in maui they take three percent that's that that's what go fund me does they take a three percent processing fee i was like that's just too cute that he could have flipped that and so i called go fund me i mean i called the senior director of public affairs and they said uh categorically 100 percent false that's just fake nonsense by a hack on the internet And by the way, I think to my, what I'm kind of saying is there's those on the right who have trafficked in sort of disaster porn as an indictment of politicians.

That doesn't mean they don't deserve it. But you need to, you got to take a breath because you got to figure out what's going on. I mean, this is horrific stuff that's going on. And I think there's just too many people that traffic in this for cheap political points. So I'm sensitive that I'm even thinking this way with you. But, you know, like CNN wrote it up, October surprises, three of them, Middle East, uh, port strike. in this disaster. Like, what do you think those people in the Appalachians,

and by the way, West Virginia's in the northern Appalachians or mid-appalachians, what do you think they're thinking right now? One of the things that I hear a lot, and it's also reflected on social media, but, you know, in this case, I hear it from actual people as well, that that's not always true. In this case, it is.

There is anger about, there's anger about this in regard to the immigration issue. And to a lesser degree in regard to Ukraine, and the idea that we're spending money on all of these things. So, for example, you had Harris go down yesterday and say, we're going to give everybody $750, right? In New York, you have programs where illegal immigrants are getting debit cards that get $350 on them every week. And I think that when Americans anywhere, but especially in the quote unquote flyover country, see that, it infuriates them. And they don't, they don't think it's reasonable. Yeah, and it should.

And look, I don't even know that that's politics, right? I mean, at a certain point, you have to be able to just sort of say, this is fundamentally unfair and wrong. And it's about the thing itself, right? In German philosophy, there's a thing called Ding on Siege, which means the thing in itself. You know, having nothing to do with politics, this is just a problem that we have all this money for people in the country illegally. and $750 for, you know, people whose homes have been destroyed. Yes. This is it the, to me, and we can always debate the application of this in policy,

but this is to me, to use your fancy German philosophy, which I'd never heard of, but this is the heart of the issue when it comes to America first. Like, it's just, I mean, don't sell me on, we can do everything, we have enough money to send to Ukraine. If you're telling me FEMA's not, is broke. can't make it through the hurricane season. Don't sell me on your empathy of bringing the world's migrants to America

and showering them. I'm not stupid. I don't think they're getting rich, but I think they're getting more than somebody who just lost their home right now in North Carolina. And that is the, that is like the antithesis of America first.

Yeah. Because that's what, oh wait, it's our government. We pay the taxes. We elect the politicians. It's like, it's not jingo-wist. It's the, it should be America first. Yeah, and look, I think that you're right that the immigrants aren't getting rich, but I mean, they are in many cases compared to where they came from, right?

And that's the magnet. Yeah. That's the magnet. You know, it's not 1882 anymore. They can jump on their cell phone and say, hey, guys, look at this. That's what happened in New York, right? That whole busing of the migrant thing started as a troll, if you recall, right? It was like, we're going to troll New York and eventually DeSantis did it.

with Martha's Vineyard, that was really meant first and foremost as a PR move to point out the hypocrisy that was going on. What it quickly turned into was a full-blown crisis. Because those people were getting there and they were like, wow, this is a lot more stuff that I'm getting in Texas. This is a lot more stuff that I'm getting in Florida. It's pretty good. Yeah. I saw Greg Abbott say he wasn't sending people to New York until Eric Adams started blaming him for sending people to New York. Well, I might as well, if he's going to go ahead and do this, and we might as well start the program. And Adam's, you know, David, Marcus.

I mean, Adams had the guts to stand up to it, and now he's in a lot of trouble. And I don't know if there's a connection there or the timing or what it is, but yeah, what a mess. I know. I've thought about that, David, and I've looked into it some, but I've also heard there's some, there's more to come. It's pretty not good for Eric Adams.

Yeah, it's New York City. All right, David Marcus, across the country. country, joining us here as we head into the election on where Americans are, what they are thinking as he talks to them face to face. Thanks so much, David. Thanks, we'll. Have a good one. All right, check out David's stuff at foxnews.com. He writes columns and filings from across the country heading into the election. All right, that's going to do it for us today. Canaan Sports Edition. Tomorrow, Craig Carton of FS1 is going to join us. I will see you again next time. Listen to ad-free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcast, and Amazon Prime members, you can listen to this show, ad-free on the Amazon music app.

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