Will & Rusty's Playdate - A Chat with Tony P

Episode Date: December 5, 2023

Will and Rusty get to know the one and only Tony P in DC. They discuss vibrant masculinity, Rusty's best outfits, and so much more. It's epic. FOLLOW OUR SOCIALS: https://www.flowcode.com/page/playdatepod FOLLOW TONY P: https://www.instagram.com/_tonypindc/ (00:00) Intro (00:23) Meet Tony P (02:34) Embracing Positivity (05:04) Simplicity (08:56) Tony P’s Guide to Vibrant Masculinity (16:20) Leaving DC (22:56) Broadcasting (32:30) Tony P's Style (35:17) Rating Rusty’s Outfits (43:36) Sayings that Don’t Exist Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Tony P in DC he's a lovely human um Tony do you want to give just anyone who doesn't know you that might be like four people in the world at this point but give them a quick synopsis of of who you are and kind of what you're all about first of all just thank you guys for having me Thank you so much for coming on. You guys are great. I love your brand and what you not only do here but also do on Instagram and all the social channels. But, yeah, so for people who don't know who I am, Tony P. in D.C., kind of more of a lifestyle-type podcasting – not podcasting, more creation-type stuff. I do a lot of, like, day in the life, weekend in my life, week in my life recaps, a lot of lifestyle vlogging as well as a lot of cooking videos.

Usually two to three times a week I'll put those out there and then mix that in with some, like, more adulting content. things like, you know, cleaning the house, making sure you, you know, cook the right dinner for a date, for example, or how to date in DC, things like that, as well as a kind of a newer thing I'm working on and really pushing is vibrant masculinity. It's a, it's more of a take on positive masculinity, but I look at it as more of an aspirational type of thing and looking at more of, you know, allowing men and encouraging men in particular to be creative, to really embrace their creative side to embrace emotional vulnerability and maturity and really being open with each other not just with our you know relationships whether it be you know dating but

also in our friendships and in our families and really opening that up as well so that's one thing I'll be working on in the future growing that a little bit more I put those out about once a week maybe twice a week but working to grow those as the time goes on so really excited have a lot of different pillars if you will but again it goes through the lifestyle vlogging cooking vibrant masculinity and talking about really about you know men's mental health and you know emotional vulnerability and things like that so we'll see where all that goes awesome i love you dude we love it this is surreal for us sorry this is uh this is a podcast where we're guys just you know showing our creative sides i think everything you said kind of ties into oh yeah how we feel

that's exactly right and that's the thing i mean so many so many men in particular don't always feel comfortable embracing that creative side even whether it be podcasting or content creation or acting. And it's a very cool thing. I mean, it's a very, you know, again, there's always kind of this conversation about masculinity and creativity. I mean, look at people like Robert De Niro. He's not masculine or Denzel Washington. I mean, they're the best. So, I mean, there's a room for creativity in masculinity. There's such a room for it. Absolutely. No, that's awesome. Have you always been like such a positive force in any room that you walk into? Or is this like a new thing? It feels like you've been this way since the dawn of time.

Like, that's a great question. I would say I've always approached my life with trying to be, to really look at the little things in life and bring, find some joy. I kind of use this term, you know, again, positivity and joy interchangeably. I believe in being happy. It's a very important thing. I've been, you know, been happy for a long, long time, you know, knock on wood. And, you know, my parents, you know, raised me that way.

I grew up around very, very positive people. But at the same time, you can't always be, you know, happy every day. And you're not always going to find happiness in every moment of your day, right? But I think for me, I always try to find joy in little moments in the day. So that's why, yes, I come off as very joyful, very positive because I'm finding those little things. I may be having a bad day. I may be going into something, you know, whether it be with my business or, you know, with work or with, you know, family stuff. But if I find the joy in those little moments, whether it be, you know, I love going to places like Subway or I go to Kava to eat something or, you know, I love what I dressed in that.

sorry, I dressed in that day, or, you know, there's this family event coming up at the end of the week or the end of that day. Those little things I cherish. When I do that, that's where I think my positive energy comes out. And I think the reason why I like to go in every day and, you know, show joy to other people and show it to myself is because you don't know who you're going to pass during the day, right? You don't know if someone's going to be having, you know, not a good time. They're trying to get through life and you meet up with them and say, hey, how you doing? if it's a stranger or a friend, your positive energy could help make their day better. So I think every human being has an impact on another.

So I think if you do that and really go into life thinking about, hey, I can, you know, project my happiness as well, that can be very helpful to others. So I think it's kind of a two-way street. I'm very positive and people that would, you know, if you interviewed other people like I went to school with or teachers or friends, they would tell you, yeah, he's a positive guy. He's kind of, you know, a positive dude. But I think for me, it's not just, oh, I'm just happy or positive or joyful today.

I want to bring that out to other people because, I mean, it's very, very important. You know, people need to see joy in the world to kind of get their day going as well. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think it's working. Obviously. You're clearly resonating. And I think it's been really cool. The growth in the last few months has been unbelievable.

I was curious, just wanted to ask you about kind of why, you know, what is it about? is that people are really connecting with that is leading to this. Because I guess the way I look at it is like, it feels like influencers have gotten like, so everything has gotten so extreme where people are trying to do the most and do the most shock value

and the craziest possible thing to get likes and views. And you're kind of allowing people to find beauty and simplicity. And I feel like that's, at least for me, what's resonated. And I'm curious to hear your thoughts on that. That's a really great point. And I love how you broke that down

because I think with social media, The reason why it's become sometimes harmful for a lot of audiences, especially younger people, especially even younger than us, where it's like there's bullying and there's things where it's very toxic and it's divisive. Again, everybody's trying to get likes and say the craziest thing or the biggest hot take or just, again, the stunts that say, hey, look at how much money I have. I got the three Lamborghinis and I got the private jet and the country club to go to. Well, that's not real life, as we all know, whether it be the hottest take or the coolest yacht, right? I think with my content is that I want people to come onto my content and not only see my soul. My content is what you see in my soul. If you were to open it up, that's who I am.

I do, you know, I take joy in the littlest things. And, you know, I love taking morning walks, whether it be on the beach or in downtown D.C., like those little things, right? And I think it's that on top of the positive energy. I think people like the way I deliver content. I narrate kind of like a broadcaster, and I have kind of that more warm type of delivery. So I think that's one part of it, the delivery portion. I also think that it's a place for people to go, oh, that's relatable. Like, yes, I walk to work during the day, or I hang out with the family on a Saturday,

or I go to Target and shop. It's the granular things. I think people enjoy that because it's not so abstract. It's, okay, like it's down to the nitty-gritty what I'm doing on a minute-by-minute basis, It can be very granular, but people, I think, enjoy that. And I think at the same time, I remember a few followers reached out to me and said that it's a place for after a long day where I can go and listen to your content and just relax and be soothed. And I think social media has not been a place where people could have any soothing very often, especially with all the keep up of the Joneses and, again, how social media can negatively impact mental health because of that. So I think my goal is to make social media my page and hopefully social media generally a place where people can not only relate and resonate with you but also feel comfortable in their own skin and say, hey, that's my life too.

I can embrace my own life and kind of bring that forward but also feel at peace and be able to kind of just kind of be taken away. Like you've ever heard of ASMR? Yeah. Right? Like I'll listen to Bob Ross for example. He has a painting and like all the little sounds. Like it's beautiful ASMR. Yeah.

Some people view my content as that. And if that's what helps people and gets them in a good soothing mood and they can relax and kind of decompress, that's the goal. I would say you're probably the closest thing to our generation's Bob Ross that I found. Also, the visual of you sitting down and watching Bob Ross is like warming my soul. It's like double ASMR. It's like that meme where all the Spider-Men are pointing at each other. Right, when he does the whole, like, am I going to do this? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're going to get some Van Dyke Brown. We've got to get a Tony P. video of you watching Bob Ross. That's actually a pretty good idea. I may have to do that. I'm taking royalties on that one. Yeah, you're 100%. We'll do a collab on this. Yeah, there you go.

Will and I were talking about this earlier today. We're like, what do we need to know from Tony P.? What do we want to get out of this? I feel like my takeaway, and I think Will would probably agree with this, like what's Tony P's guide to vibrant masculinity? How do we introduce that into our lives even if it's like 10%? Like how do you start being a vibrantly masculine man? So it starts with doing things – like again, I call it being a renaissance person, right? You ever heard that phrase?

Yeah. Okay. I think – I forget who it was. I think it was Da Vinci or someone like that. They were an artist. They were an investor. They did a bunch of things in their life, right? With masculinity, it's about embracing every part of your personality, no matter how big or how small, right?

So let's say you're 5% creative and you like to maybe listen to Bob Ross videos and maybe actually copy some of his paintings. But you're like, well, I'm going to hide that because that doesn't sound very masculine. Well, yeah, it is. Embrace it and show people, hey, I love to paint. I love to listen to Bob Ross. And incorporate that with also the fact, hey, I love to watch football. I love to go play golf. I love smoking cigars personally, right?

Like, so I embrace every part of my personality and let myself flow through that. I think that's the first thing. So again, letting, being comfortable with, again, if you have a pull towards a certain part of your personality, whether it be creativity or emotional intelligence, just let yourself do it. Don't go, oh, I have to resist that or I have to hold it back because that's going to be viewed as not masculine. That's the first piece.

I think the second piece is also embracing emotional intelligence and vulnerability consistently. a lot of guys will yeah they'll open up sometimes it'll be like once and then it'll be they'll just dump all their stuff on people which one of my mentors taught me is to really embrace emotional you know sharing vulnerability compassion and empathy those type of emotions consistently and doing that not just with our families or our significant others but doing that with our friends and you know going out to dinner you know hanging out with the boys and saying hey i got a lot of stuff going on right now something's going on you know my family and i'm feeling this and i just need someone to listen and if you do that consistently even when you're having good times

you know boys i'm having a really i'm feeling great right now and my business is growing and but i'm a little bit you know feeling this because i feel a little bit of pressure like always doing things consistently and having those open dialogues consistently that's the second piece i think the third piece is also you know really embracing you know again embracing a big kind of i say an open kind of a you know thriving inclusive world right kind of really really like saying, okay, you know what? Not only am I going to be someone that wants to lead. I've been in leadership roles my whole life, student government and worked in corporate world and have been in leadership roles there. But I also know that there are also times for me to step back and let someone

else take the lead and inspire others to take center stage. So I think, again, embracing an inclusive kind of community where, yeah, I can lead it sometimes as a man. I can step into that energy and lead and, you know, be, you know, be running things, but also know when it's time to inspire others to take the lead, but also seeding and saying, hey, this is someone else's time to lead. Yeah. And, or it's, you know, whatever it may be, or it's someone else's turn to speak. I think, you know, allowing for kind of that mix of things in terms of like an open leadership and community, right? And then finally, I think just embracing, you know, kind of vibrance in terms of showing vibrance in the smallest things yeah whether they be okay the way you talk to

people how if you're down to earth show warmth when you can show passion passion's a great emotion it is you love something like i love podcasting i love friday beers show it to people like and show it again consistently so it doesn't mean you have to always be positive every day but it means when you want to show those emotions show them consistently so i think that's a big one as well showing the little emotions and that can be in the littlest things like delivery you know tone of voice or just kind of how you carry yourself if you smile a lot that's good that's not a bad thing and again my mentor who i've mentioned before he said it's being positive without a cost like we don't always have to be as guys like sarcastic oh you know why are you being so

positive you're slapping down a little bit it's like no like yeah you can be positive we could all be hanging out and laughing and you know you know breaking shops but also you know saying hey I'm also happy too. Yeah. And at the same time, when they go out at the golf course with the guys or going to a bar, you know, you can laugh and joke,

but also say, Hey, I love you, man. I appreciate you. Give you a hug. Like you can do all of that. Yeah.

I think it has to exist in that kind of one space. I know it's a lot, but I know. I mean, I could, I could hear you. Yeah. I mean,

that, that was fantastic. Thank you. Were you like the greatest out of college interviewer of all time? Like, can you imagine, can you imagine being like, being like,

all right, I run this consulting firm. I'm like, I got this kid, Anthony, coming in. And you've talked to the biggest bozos all day. And then you ask this kid a question. And he just breaks it out so eloquently. And it's like, it is a skill that I've never seen before. It's fantastic.

Oh, no, you're really kind. I thought I kind of went long-winded there. No, no, no. That was like the best answer to a question. No, no, I really appreciate that. And I think it's funny. And I'll admit this. And my friends at the companies that I've worked for would laugh at this.

But I think a lot of the reason why I even got in jobs is because of my interviewing skills. Like I'm not the greatest technically at what I do in any of my line of work. I mean I just – I think that – I like to interview and I like to talk to people. I think that's kind of – my mom calls it the gift of gab. So I think that's kind of what I have. And look, I've been a personality hire. I admit that. Hey, why do you think we're sitting here?

Listen, I've been a personality hire a couple times in my life, whether it be for full-time jobs or internships. But you know what, though? I embrace it. Again, whether it be in companies that I've worked for full-time, they've given me such great opportunities. And the interviews have been great because they've asked me good questions, of course, in a job context. But yeah, definitely when it came to job interviews, that was where I – it wasn't always my technical ability because I'm not the greatest at Excel or PowerPoint or whatever the accounting software was back in the day. But whatever that was, I had the greatest at it.

But again, I love talking to people, and I love connecting with people, even if it's in an interview or even if it's a client that I'm working with, whether it be in my full-time job or my business. I love getting to know people, and I think that's just where, whether it be in a formal professional interview or a show like this, I just have that passion for doing that, and that's how it kind of naturally comes out. That's why I naturally just love to interview and I love to do public speaking, even though it's kind of ironic because I actually have a small stutter. I have a small stutter.

And so a lot of people will go, well, that's no way that person is going to be really into public speaking. But I love it, whether it be interviews or speeches. And I've always just kind of used, you know, kind of the stutter as my way to kind of transform their superpower. And I use that as like, hey, I have this little problem. I stutter a bit and I sometimes merge words together or talk too fast. But I use this space – I love public speaking and I'm passionate about it and I really have fun with it as a superpower to say, hey, I'm going to overcome that and really just embrace that. That's also part of vibrant masculinity is the resiliency piece, is trying to – when a door closes, a window opens. So I think that's a big one as well.

Totally, yeah. I mean that's awesome. Okay, I have a question that is a little bit off. We've been very earnest so far. You're good. this is my question which is you're good

this has been a lot of fun right now we're in Boston for those who don't know yep you're a Boston guy huge you live in DC you're Tony P in DC now

yes are you I mean it feels like you can't leave DC now do you worry about that or are you okay with that or do you disagree with this

well the ironic thing the ironic thing about my page is that New York is my biggest market oh really so I was actually just in New York last week

doing some media appearances podcast appearances and we did a meetup a Peahive meetup at Bleeker Street Bar I think it was West Village I think and we thought 50 people would show up, it was 300

oh my god we can't do that ever, that's awesome again, I hate to be a braggart oh my god it's not vibrantly masculine that wasn't bragging being aware of your accomplishments

proud of them I'm taking that the right way Thank you. No, I think so. With New York, I think being my number one market, I think there's options. Yeah. I mean, it's funny. So, like, you know, D.C. and New York are my – I'm sorry.

New York and D.C. are my one and two. But there's other markets. I mean, London is up there with 4% of my follower base, which is crazy. Tony P. and GB. Oh, right. Write that down. Or Tony P. and Beantown or Tony P. and NYC. I think eventually – and, again, D.C. is my second home.

I love D.C. to death. I'm not going anywhere in terms of D.C. anytime soon but i think eventually it'll just be tony p because that's how people call me out tony p yeah yeah so i think you just it's all natural to say hey i'll just be tony p eventually but dc will always no matter how far this goes or if it crumbles tomorrow dc will always be a part of me and it's still a part of me i love dc it's my it's my second favorite city in the world um wait is this number one of course it is okay i'm from here even the way you said of course

all my family that's listening would absolutely be very very upset with me if I said that totally fair but yeah I mean Boston's been you know my home and I eventually will come home I mean I want to raise a family in Boston you know I'm from the north shore of Boston so I'd like to eventually raise a family here and again my family's

here my family my lifelong friends and I have many lifelong friends in DC but people I went to high school with and college with and just family I mean I just would love to go back and you know come back here and be with them and I missed a lot in the last I mean I went to Richmond for college came home for like about a year and then went right down down to DC now it's coming up on two years almost yeah I missed a lot of things on the family side and I want to come back and be there for my family

and you know and so eventually especially my mom and dad who I just love to death and my mom has been like banging on the door saying please yeah yeah so we'll see uh but again I'm working on that but again DC I just I love it it's like an incredible city and again if you haven't been you gotta go when you're when you're because you're still a consultant right yeah like how has how has becoming this internet personality changed work life do people like yeah treat you differently is there a different dynamic with with bosses and co-workers now or is it are you still tony pitt are you like a fucking man i work for an incredible consulting company um there were not i mean i hate to use the word

over a family i mean i i know it's a very overused term but we really are like i mean my dad told me you know when i was in when i was in college that oh you'll meet to me a lifelong friends people that'll be in your wedding at your work your first couple jobs or so and i can say that for the affirmative like i i'd say 15 20 people i've met at work probably even more again i mean there's so many i can't count them all yeah they're lifelong friends they're people that'll be at my wedding they're people that you know hopefully if you know we're as close geographically will be a part of my life no matter whether i'm in consulting five years from now or if i'm you know not there five years from now right like it doesn't matter these people have been just so

great to me and they not only embraced me when this page started to grow they embraced me from day one yeah they knew all my quirks my personality quirks and you know that i was you know i kind of had my own energy and personality and they also not only embraced that and really just loved me for it and you know loved you know you know having me around and you know brought me to all the the work events and brought me into the friend groups but also has allowed me to leverage my skills at work and really allow me to you know leverage what i have as you know my talents in my in my consulting work which has been great and they put me on projects that have always fit my skill set so they've embraced me from many different angles this is before the content second piece is once

the content grew they embraced it right away i remember one time we were out at a nationals game and our ceo was in was in town and he loves this story so i don't know if he'll listen he'll hear this but uh he'll love this if i tell the story um and again i don't want to give too many names away or company names yeah i was thinking i want to respect privacy but at the same time you know we were out at the nationals game and we came out of like the entrance after the game was over and 20 25 people came up to me at once in a big group and said hey tony p yeah and you should have seen the look on our ceo's face he's like what is this right so and you know then we after that we went to you know we hung out afterwards we went downtown dc walking around and people just started coming

up to me like it was like they wanted pictures yeah he had no idea what this was and you know then like my friends at work explained it to him and he was like so encouraging oh my god Tony's incredible I'm so happy for you and I mean he's been just so encouraging from from day one and then I was actually able to do uh some uh some actually content for my company which is really really cool so we had some new hire uh you know welcome content uh the next day our CEO and COO came to me and said hey we love that you're doing this we think it's awesome we'd love to have you you know do some stuff with us i said yeah i said so like i guess i got to talk about my company that i love a lot they're very passionate about it's like i think that was so great too and they

just embraced me from day one and they you know again with my job it's very very hectic consulting is a hectic business yeah but my company has been there for me lock stock and barrel and i just i'm so grateful for them and they've not me they have not made me feel any different i'm still tony I'm still Tony, regular Tony since I was almost two years ago. Can you imagine being a new hire and you walk into your new job and you're just like, is that fucking Tony P? Well, okay, I have a question, not to suggest that you would ever leave your current company, but I did read the article in the Washington Post that I think mentioned something about

potential political aspirations. And also I've seen, I saw you on a news show, right, in D.C.? I was, yeah, on Fox 5. It was a good day, D.C. There you go. It's a stutter. It comes out sometimes. And then you said, I think, when you posted that, something that maybe broadcasting was an aspiration.

Yes. I mean, you know, I don't want to – not that everything isn't going great right now, but if there is – Are you trying to poach Tony Fandisi right now? No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, I'm telling you. We'll make you an offer right now. I'd be honored. No, broadcasting, politics, are there things like these that you are maybe hoping that this content stuff that's been taking off has offered opportunities that maybe weren't totally there before?

Yeah, oh, absolutely. And one of the things when it comes to broadcasting in particular, especially sports broadcasting, I did that in high school and college. I went to St. John's Prep High School right down the road here in Danvers, Mass. My college roommate went there. Oh, no kidding? Yeah. What school did you go to? I went to Boston College.

Oh, nice. There's tons of – we call them double eagles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even though double eagles really – It's BC High, isn't it? Right, but we kind of stole that. But so, yeah, I mean, so I did that, and I was named kind of director of broadcasting in my sophomore year and did that, did public address and play-by-play, then did some play-by-play in college. One of the things that I sort of wish that I did if I had any life – not regrets, but maybe to step back, I would have probably went to broadcasting school.

because that's something that I've always loved to do. I think you would have been phenomenal at it. No, I just love telling stories. And I also love telling stories with me not being the center of the story. I'm actually less comfortable telling stories about myself than I am about other things. Like, for example, I love giving wedding toasts. Oh, my God.

But not birthday toasts for myself. Yeah. So I think that's why I love broadcasting in particular. So that was one thing, and that's always been in the back of my head. That was an impetus of why I started this. Yeah. It was I wanted to get back into my broadcasting creative side with this page. And I had no expectation it would grow.

So that's the first part of this. And the second piece is, yeah, with the way this is going, I've made a lot of connections with different industries and different people in those industries. And I don't know what the future holds for me. I definitely know right now I love where I'm at. I love my company. And I love the people that are there and also the work. And my current company took a chance on me nearly two years ago when I was in accounting and I had no experience in consulting with their internships. I had none of that.

And then they took a chance on me. So they're rock solid to me. So that's one thing. And as the months and years go on, could I make some changes in the future? Yeah. I think it's definitely possible with any career. I mean, especially nowadays where everybody pivots. But for right now, I'm staying put and very happy where I'm at.

But at the same time, I definitely think broadcasting and that type of space is where I feel the most comfortable. That's where I feel that my skills could eventually be where it's the most. I think that's where the blend of passion and skills will eventually meet. So that's one piece. Whether that be like broadcasting or branding or marketing, that space definitely. But politics, interesting question. I've been asked a few times in D.C. That's one of the biggest questions besides, do you have your resume on you in D.C.?

There you go. It's either that or are you going to run for office? And I don't like to sound like a lot of people, especially a lot of guys in D.C. will always tell you that they're going to be president. And I just don't love that because that's – I can see you being president. Legitimately. I'm putting my – yeah, you got my vote.

The country could do a lot better than me. I actually don't know about that. They could do a lot better than me. And there are many great leaders out there, many leaders that I know personally that are great. But, yeah, I mean, I think it would be contingent on a few things. I think I would need to know that I could go in there and just legislate and advocate for people. What I mean by that is I love the members of Congress that you don't see on TV, the ones that are like – they're the ones making the bills and they're writing the laws and they're getting the nitty-gritty. I'm kind of a nerd when it comes to politics, kind of a policy wonk, right?

I research policy. I'll read this stuff during the day. I'll read the newspapers, right? And I'll go, oh, that's an interesting idea for taxes, an interesting idea for this type of thing, or whether it be AI. That's the biggest new thing in the congressional world these days, right? So I just love that stuff. So if I could do that consistently and write laws and help them get passed and actually just advocate for constituents, I'm in. If it means that I have to basically go on TV every moment and try to be the loudest voice in the room, at that point, it's not even worth it.

Because, I mean, the pageantry is not worth it. I don't want to do it just to say, oh, Senator Pocari or Congressman Pocari. No, like that's not worth it to me. What's worth it is serving people, being a servant leader, and actually advocating for something and constructing a piece of legislation or a bill that's going to help somebody and actually make their life better. Like the same concept of being positive during the day to help others, right? I think you have to treat legislating that way. So I think that's a big piece of it. But, yeah, I mean, I've considered it.

But I'm not one of those folks that's going to be like, oh, I'm going to be president. Watch this. But how awesome – Maybe senator or governor. No, no. I mean, I – you know, it's a way long shot even if I think about it. How awesome would a Tony be, like, after a big mission,

he, like, comes and addresses the country and he's like – I mean, I'd be – I'd feel confident that the right decision was made. He's like – Oh, God, hold on. Yeah. Oh, my God, hold on. My fellow Americans, good evening. Yeah, there we go.

There we go. He's like, the guys had a blast out there. They were having a ball I want to come on TV to you to discuss a very important mission I think you've rehearsed that Once or twice at least The better one is Imagine it's Sunday

Masters Sunday and you turn on the TV It's Tony P And he's telling a story about some young up and comer He's like No no no It's like some 15 year old that's making a run at it Charlie Woods I would love

This would be a dream To call the Masters or call any big golf tournament and say Charlie Woods got the win. There we go. Let's make it happen. Because I've been a Tiger Woods fan since day one, and I love him. And by the way, he's going to win 18 majors. He's going to win 19 majors.

He's going to come back again because he's Tiger Woods. Write this down. We break it on play day. I need to open my DraftKings right now. But, yes. It's not sponsored. Oh, maybe it is for you. Sorry.

No, do so. DraftKings. We're going to do it on BetMGM. betmg i'm tony tony p does it on draft kings sorry no no you could no you could no no uh but yeah i mean i would that'd be a dream and i go and uh for the first time another woods has claimed victory or something like that i would cry i would cry another tiger woods we're not out of the woods yet there's eight there we go like that would be great to see it was like them both playing in the same tournament yeah that would be unreal like that would be incredible is he at 17 right now

No, he has 15. Oh, and you're saying 18 or 19? Oh, I think he can do it. I would be ecstatic to see that as well. He is the most mentally tough athlete ever, besides Tom Brady. But I think he's incredible. And that would be the dream, to call the Masters of the U.S. Open and say, you know, and then find the final putt.

And Charlie Woods has claimed victory, whatever it may be, or has reached the top of the mountain, something like that. I have a new prediction. Tony P is going to be the first President to call a master There we go Wow Should we get into saying

Yeah well I had one other thing I wanted to say Wait I had Oh what is your handicap My handicap right now that's kind of in flux right now I just played a few rounds in Florida that weren't my best So I came in at a 9 And I'm going to be probably about a 9.7

You're still a stick So, basically, I could be a 10 if you roll it up with some of the handicap metrics. There you go. Yeah, I shoot like 105, but I have a really good time. Hey, listen, we've got to play sometime. I would love to. I would love to. And you guys are on the West Coast.

Yeah, we're out in Los Angeles. We're both based, or our parents live in Maine. Which part of Maine, by the way? I grew up in Cape Elizabeth, but now in Portland, we do the summers in Booth Bay Harbor. Nice. So, my mother just closed on a house today in York. Okay, amazing. So we've been going to Europe.

We've rented a small little place for almost 20 years now. And today she actually just closed on her – it's been a lifelong dream since she's been a kid to have a house by the ocean. And she came from nothing and has grown that for all these years. I'm so proud of her because we're going to be main residents now. That's a beautiful thing. She will be really excited. It's an elite group of people. It is.

And my mother is certainly – The Mainers are a tight-knit group. We're all going to be Mainers. Yeah, we can now say – we're breaking a bunch of stuff on this podcast. But breaking the Tony P is now a manor is big. That's big for the state. Right. Yeah, I'm working on that.

My mother is stoked. And she's definitely elite. She's the absolute best. And she's worked her butt off to get to this point. And she's got a nice place. She has a little porch. All she wants is a little porch, a little cottage. And she's got it now.

I'm so happy for her. That's awesome. We're happy for you as well. We love to hear that. All right. So this is the one thing. Before we get into our sayings, which we are super excited about, a big part of what you do

that we haven't totally talked about is talking about the outfits themselves. I dressed up for the occasion. You dressed up beautifully. I don't wear suits ever. Oh, you don't? I haven't broken this out in like years. And it still fits me, thank God. Since our college pictures, something like that?

Yeah, literally. My senior photos. So, first of all, how do I look? You look great. First of all, I like the pink going with the blue contrast. That's a really classic look very vibrant it's a classic tony p look as well that's exactly right he was studying your he was studying your your combos i was looking at your page today and i was like oh my god he's

this is exactly what i packed like i think he's gonna love this and the shoes i love how the neutral color can we get a view on that but yeah kind of a neutral gray you go and i stretch there uh yeah hey all right there we go yeah that's fit listen that is fantastic yeah flexibility billy's great thank you but so what's really cool is that like that contrast it matches well with not just that the lighter pink shirt but also it's a good kind of it's in the same family as the blue yeah kind of light so that's a good neutral color so i again i think that's the best comment you've ever gotten these are yeah these are my old telling you top to bottom well constructed and again since you're traveling across country six hours the fact that you had

this outfit ready to go true testament to i not only now but when you picked it out all those years ago i walked in on i walked in on him ironing his suit yeah is that allowed i just did it it was so yeah can you iron like on the suit biggest thing though i would use a steamer yeah i just went for it so you could burn it could burn it yeah that's why i use a steamer just hang it up and just kind of steam it like this really great it has kind of low pressure heat and i can use shirts two or three times before they get dry-cleaned because of the steamer. That's a really good one. Rusty wears shirts two or three times

regardless. Without stealing. Alright, so then the one... I do too. Wait, wait. I just want to put this out here. We're going to throw shots. Oh, no. I gave Will a pair of jeans, and

it's the only pair... Actually, they're in this photo. And they're the only... He's talking crazy. They're the only pair of jeans that will owns and when they get stayed we just have to wait until we get home to another state yeah we do a lot of travel and i just wear the same jeans like every day so it's all right well jeans are actually okay jeans you're embarrassing you're fired here i hit it we really hit a nerve

no but i i i think i i think a big part of it is again you can use jeans for anything yeah flexible so again you can wear them a few times too you know again you don't want to wash him too many times thank you all right i wanted to rate i wanted you to give your honest opinion on a few of rusty's outfits from over the years show me the picture before you show tony so we know we're so i know okay and if you're listening just on audio we'll we'll make it quick we'll put them up on the screen we'll put it up on youtube all right this is from the preakness steaks okay the let's go wow people are fired up our live audience this is uh all right so The boys are going

This is insane The boys are going crazy And it's Tony Pete No see they're here for you Is this a hockey game? Is this a hockey game? Alright so if you're not If you're not familiar

The picture that we're showing Tony Is a suit that I wore To the Preakness Stakes Which is a Which is a horse race in I want to say Maryland It's in Baltimore? Yeah it's in Maryland

At Pimlico I think Yes I think it's the right place. Is that the name of the town? That's the name of the track. Yeah, my grandfather, who's a big horse racing guy, would kill me if he knew that I almost forgot. But yeah, so let me tell you this.

Okay, so very nice. First of all, I love the – it's a different color. I love the checkered. Thank you. I like that. Matches very well with the pants, so good match there. Brown belt, solid. One thing is the tie.

Yeah, Tony does not like mixing patterns. I know about that. Yeah, so what you can get away with would be kind of a cross stripe. Yep. like kind of like those diagonal stripes one thing you if you were going to deviate but when your jacket's kind of more of like kind of a cross pattern yep you want to keep maybe either stripe or solid okay solid's always good with with kind of multiple designs yes not kind of multiple lines a checkered jacket or stripe jacket because it kind of takes it kind of allows it to be a little

bit more describe the tie just so people at home yeah so the tie here is it's it's solid blue with some white polka dots smaller dots um yeah polka dots we'll call them and again very very good i mean it's a great tie i'd wear it with many different things but not that jacket not that jacket yeah but that's the only thing but again it's a good tie it matches well with again if you take the jacket away matches very well with the pants the belt so again solid can i tell you my thought process yeah of course so on a scale a scale of one to ten yeah this is yeah this is like you guys are switching jobs okay i'll take it solid we'll take it i i just these guys are here for you now oh they don't go yeah i saw i saw doing the arm roll i saw a picture one time

and it's john f kennedy uh mixing patterns and i thought it was really cool so i went for it but i'm also not john f kennedy so i can't get away you're telling me you did that on purpose yeah it's like a my every time i wear that i get i get very nice man hairdo is very good thank you it's very like it's oh okay now we're talking i like that i got one more i got one more for you This is my... Prom? No, I want to say that was in a... I don't know what that was, but this is a great look.

I stand by this look. You can't totally tell. It's a little blurry, but the pants are like... Seersucker. Oh, yeah. Oh, I love this. Yep. Perfect amount of design on the tie.

Those are anchors. My mom got that for me. Oh, I love that. We were also on the ocean, so if that gives you any context, I was in a nautical mood. We call it the nautical fit. We didn't even do that. I call it the yacht club fit here.

Yes. There you go. This is, I mean, again, when you can have an outfit that matches your context or your setting, kudos there. Love the shoes. The darker brown. Very, very great. Very, very good. Love that.

Matches the belt, I can tell. What belt is it? Looks like it's kind of a darker brown belt. Okay, I like that. I love the jacket with the gold. Very nice for a nautical theme. Again, I love just plain white shirts. I love that.

I've always liked how crisp they are I like solid color shirts generally maybe a little bit of stripe again I love this jacket everything matches well the tie is a perfect shade just to kind of match with the jacket and the seersucker pants man

those are absolutely classic that is so New England it is so cool I absolutely love it again but it's not too over the top it seems to me that the stripes are not too overwhelming and again it doesn't take away from the top

if you can see the girl next to me who I was with I think I copped her out her dress I think you did Her dress match is kind of what I've got going on as well. Yeah. That was –

We need a little beer. That might have been – Actually, now that I'm looking at it, I believe that was my junior year prom at Duncan Geicke's house. Well, based on his analysis, you've gone downhill since then. Show him one more. Number on that. I would give that an 8.7.

I love it. Okay, that's huge. Wait, what was the first one? An 8. Solid 8. Wow, that feels generous. All right, this one is – This was in Austin, Texas.

context yeah he was in austin texas oh my god it's so funny i bought a car i went to houston for the first time okay yeah wait about a year ago and i bought a hat in the airport bought a nice like black cowboy hat i live and die by that thing i love it so i love the cowboy hat first of all big kudos for that oh yeah okay really solid hat it's again i love the the brim around it so i love that i think it matches very well with the texas as opposed to the longhorns Yep. Perfect theme. Again, the hat matches very well with the orange from the logo.

So very, very good. That's very astute. I like the stripe of the golf shirt. Great touch there. Peter Millar. Yep. One of the best shirts. Love them.

But also Travis Matthews. That's my secret weapon on the golf course. Love those. Okay. So those are my top two. But Travis Matthews and Peter Millar. Very, very solid. So I love that.

Can I give some context on the belt? Yes. Belt is good. Belt is solid. So the belt. The belt, I was wearing it around the house, and my dad came up to me, and he goes, where'd you get that belt? I was like, I think I stole it from you, like, 20 years. Like, it was like, I've had it since I was in, like, eighth grade or something.

Yeah. He was like, that was my roommate at Rollins. Like, his roommate from college, this kid Scott, he was like, that was Scott's belt in, like, the 80s. Like, I have no idea how you have it. I'm wearing it right now, actually. Oh, good. You got it on? It's like a family heirloom.

No, no, no. He was just like, you stole that. Like, I have no idea how you got that. But, like, that's definitely Scott's belt. It's not brown throughout. Brown. It's brown leather on the front connecting to canvas with some sailboats. That is too funny.

Because, again, that looks like just pure leather. I could have gotten away with it, too, if I didn't. Yeah, you'd be scouting yourself. You'd be scouting yourself. Again, cover that. Again, having that with the shoes, great matchings. I always think the belt and shoes should go pretty similar. So I love that.

Great matching there. And I love how the shoes have a little bit of tan there so it matches up well with the hat. Again, you're pulling in the little things that are so important. I love that. and the stripe on the shirt is so good because it's not too much. You're not having big stripes with really big seersucker pants. You don't want to have too much going on. You don't want to become an optical illusion.

You're doing that well, the blue in the shirt versus the jeans. I like how you did the lighter jeans. If you went dark jeans, that would have been too much. That would have not worked. That would have been way too, again, optical illusion. This is perfect. having the light jeans as a backdrop, and you allow the shirt. I think you should allow the top, the shirt, or the jacket to lead the way.

I like that. I think that's great. You've done a great job here. And, again, your face is absolutely priceless. You have kind of a scowl on your face. I don't know if they lost this game. It was 108 degrees that day. I think that's what you're saying.

Giving the word for the golf shirt. Yeah. No, again, the only thing if I were to add any of this, I think this is probably like a 9.29. Wow. Oh, hey-oh. If I were to add anything, I think a jacket sometimes with a golf shirt is a very secret. It looks so sick, dude.

It does. Again, that would have made it a 10. But again, 9.3. I even give it a 9.4. 9.4. Write that down. Can I lobby for an extra point? Because if you pulled those pants up, the top of my cowboy boots were green alligator

leather. Oh, they were? Yeah. It was pretty sick. And there's verifiable evidence of this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Will was with me when I bought them. I will swear on my notebook.

Will was with me when I bought them. Yeah. I feel really good about the ratings I got from Tony. So I'll give you 9.5. 9.5? Wow. There's proof. That's an A.

Yeah, there we go. There's a witness who has no reason to lie. Okay, so I am in. I'm a reliable witness. On a 9.5. All right. Should we do some sayings that don't exist, guys? Yeah, I feel like, you know, let's get to, you know, where the bread is buttered here.

Where are my glasses? Yeah. We'll let Tony fire it off. We're doing Sayings That Don't Exist with Tony P in D.C. Let's do it. I got them ready. I took a while to do this the last couple of days. I actually did them on the plane flying back from Florida last night.

And it was kind of a cool task to do while you're in the room for three hours. It's fun. All right. You can start us off. We'll just go down the line. All right. So ready? All right.

First one is, your suit is my tie. Now, what that means in Tony P speak is that it means that not everything is for everyone. So again, sometimes things kind of don't match up. Yeah. You know, again, it's kind of like one person's trash and another person's treasure, right? Yeah. Some people can see things different ways. Absolutely.

That's the first one. We love that. Wait, wait. We got to go. I'll go and then he goes. Oh, sorry. Yeah, you're sorry. And then we wrap around.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I appreciate the enthusiasm. I'm used to rambling. Yeah. All right. I've got a lot of work went into building the Titanic, which is that not just putting in a bunch of work doesn't always mean the result's going to be good.

So it's like, dude, it's going to be great. We spent three years on it. And you say, hey, a lot of work went into building the Titanic. A lot of work went into building the Titanic, baby. Pretty good, right? I like that. That's actually a really good, like, that actually has a good meaning to it.

Yeah. But it's a very sad situation. Yeah, obviously not making light of that. Of course not. I tried to pick, like, an old enough tragedy. Right. Yeah, you didn't say that. Yeah, you go.

All right, I got doing the rain dance in Seattle. Sometimes there's a, like, you wouldn't want more rain there. It's basically someone who has everything asking for more. Yep. Right. You know what I mean? You're getting greedy. Don't ask for more than you need.

I love that. There's a great saying in The Sopranos where it was one of the lines that they said, it's like someone having a ham under their arm, crying the blues, because they have no bread. Very simple. Yes. There you go. Okay, amazing.

I love that. I love that. There you go. All right. So next one for me is every sock has a match and every arm has a roll. There we go. That is a good one. The meaning of this is that, you know, your answer is out there in life.

Whether it be a professional thing you want to do or a passion you're looking for, the answer to what you're looking for is out there. You just have to let it find you. Absolutely. And sometimes things will, again, one of my mentors always told me, sometimes things will just fall into your lap just by being out there in the world. Again, the arms, you know, the roles will come. If you bring the arms together, the role is going to come. So that's the biggest thing.

And also just a side point, things will also work out the way they're supposed to. Yep. Again, a similar saying is my mother always says, you know, be where your feet are planted because, you know, you could, you know, that where you are will be part of your journey. So that's a big thing. I love it. We love it. That's awesome. All right, I've got, that's why we sent monkeys to the moon first.

It's when someone's trying something new and they, like, screw up in a bad way. You go, well, that's why we sent monkeys to the moon first. Oh, my goodness. That's awesome. That's funny. I Googled this. We never sent monkeys to the moon. We did.

The Russians sent Sputnik, the dog. No, no, no. Sputnik was the ship. They sent monkeys to space first. Yeah, but the Russians sent a dog on Sputnik. I forget what the dog's name was. Was the dog also named Sputnik? Maybe his name is Monkey.

That was really all I was saying. R.I.P. I don't think he made it back. That's why we send monkeys to the moon first. Tony, I actually wrote this next one about you. Oh, gosh. My last one is also. Here we go.

I'm ready. That guy is like a palm tree in Canada. It's like a bright spot in a very dark place. Not saying Canada is a bad place, but they don't grow there. Tony is a breath of fresh air in an otherwise pretty cold place sometimes. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, couldn't agree more. No, I absolutely love that.

That is too good. Fuck. Very positive, too. Very vibrant. There we go. Yeah, you're right. So another one I have is that every salmon needs cinnamon. There we go.

Now, what the heck does that mean? Well, it means that you could always make things a little sweeter. Yep. So I suggest anybody on your Thanksgiving turkey tomorrow, maybe put a little bit of cinnamon on there just to make it a little sweeter. When mom's not looking. Yeah, right. But again, in life, you know, you can always make things a little bit sweeter.

And I think, again, those little things that we've talked about, like, you know, little moments in life and, you know, showing vibrance to people. You can always make life a little sweeter. I love that. I love that. All right. I've got every 25-year-old consultant in D.C. was once a 24-year-old consultant in D.C. There you go. Now we're talking.

You've got to take steps to get to where you're going. And that was a big moment a few months ago, right? It was when I turned 25. And I'm happy to report that there's no quarter-life crisis, folks. There we go. I don't have five tattoos, and I don't own two motorcycles yet. We can change that tonight. Wait, you pulled up on a Harley.

You have to out me? Tony pulls up in a McLaren. We're trying to keep this enigma alive. Have you watched the movie Wild Hogs? Have you read the movie before? No. So it's a movie with Josh Volta and Tim Allen, and they play these guys that go on a road trip for a motorcycle.

That's when I actually decided, hey, I need somebody to get a motorcycle. There was a bunch of suburban guys with leather jackets. That's me in a nutshell. I'd be like, you know, my alter ego would be putting on the Harley jacket, just like the glasses and the skull, the skull bandana. I can see it. That'd be the alter ego. In Toronto, every arrival is a statement, and nothing says it better than this.

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Uh-oh. Dun-dun-dun. if you hang out with rats eventually they're gonna steal your cheese oh i like that you know what i mean you have to you have to surround yourself with other vibrant men that are like kind of have the same goal as you and and aren't trying to pull you back i think they're i had this thought the other day there are pushers and there are pullers in life right like you know your buddies that are like kind of like trying to get to some cool place with you as well and then there are those guys that are like no stay here stay like stay with us you know what i mean they kind

of like secretly want you to not you know succeed succeed yeah absolutely oh i mean that's that's a great life point is that there are so many you know in every friend group you gotta have different types of friends right yeah push you the ones you know that will say hey like give you the tough love the ones that will also kind of be your comforters like those type of ones and also the ones that you'll partner with you know in a business thing whatever so again having different types of friends to kind of help you in different ways is very very important but i definitely agree i mean If you hang around with the – you are the son of your five friends who you hang around with, and that will be your journey. And again, if you're not hanging around with men that embrace things – again, I'm not saying everybody has to be just like me, but just like embracing things of vibrancy and masculinity, not just, again, in our own lives and being vibrant and being warm to people and emotionally intelligent, but also being kind and really supporting things like compassion and kind of more technical notion – not technical notion, but more of a kind of award.

world notion like gender equity and you know really include inclusive communities and you know good solid leadership like you have to hang around the people that have those same values yeah because if you don't eventually there's going to be that push and pull and you will pull away from them if they don't have the same values again they have the same values they'll definitely take a cheese from you money power status or just your your reputation yeah absolutely so could we hear a bonus one Tony I know you only prepared three but I got a couple Yeah, yeah, yeah. You hit us with what you got left.

We want to hear. Oh. Okay. Ooh, okay, I got a good one. All right. You got to put tin foil on your cast iron pan. And what that means is you can never be too careful. Yeah.

Because the worst thing in this world for any amateur chef or professional chef is to have all that splatter coming up and, you know, hits your hands and, you know, gets on your clothes. Especially when I wear my jacket and tie when I cook. It's not good to have oil flying all over the place. No, it's not. You can never be too careful. You know, always, you know, always cross your T's and dot your I's.

Hell, yeah. Wait, that's not an original one. You tried to sneak one in there. I just came up with that. Yeah. That would have been really, like, imagine if we were sitting here and you were just pitching ones that, like. We're like, holy shit. Wait, that definitely exists.

It's like, why did I say that? It's like, we don't want to embarrass anyone right now. No, no. But, again, you've got to put that tinfoil on the cast. I love it. At all times. Especially with, you know, Thanksgiving coming. make sure you know keep keep things safe if you're doing one of those what they call it the

deep fried turkey oh don't do that don't do that don't do it if you're out there do not do those but but again always you know cross your teeth sorry make sure you cast your cast did you see that fire department that posted a video like yeah they dunked it in too fast and it basically just engulfs they put like a dummy next to it and basically they drop the turkey into quickly which is what happens to a lot of people and when the grease like touches the bottom part it turns into like the biggest flame you've ever seen this is how people have been so don't it was like a demonstration yeah it was like don't do this yeah do not deep fry your turkey oh no i mean i i i can barely do my stuff never mind never mind get into the the pot

no no well as an amateur chef are you gonna have a big role tomorrow on thanksgiving dinner oh i actually my mother is giving me a couple of tasks that i have to do there we go okay one of them includes is going to get uh cakes and pies that are already done so that's the first you're an apple where was the place you went you got pies for your dad's for your dad on the way home you you posted a video like i stopped by sorry you mean pizza pizza so yeah so i got i said oh i thought you meant pies like he was like i picked up the world famous like rhubarb pie like san tapios oh okay yeah i went to san tapios right uh right off of i got here in peabody and i mean that piece is to die for.

Have you ever had Frank Pepe's? I haven't. And actually, so my family actually started Pocari's Restaurant, which is in the north end. Oh. Which is now Regina Pizza.

I had Regina the other night. So I don't know. We don't own it anymore. I have no affiliation with it anymore. But my family at one time did. Like way back when. Regina.

It's like legendary. Yeah. I think they have one literally like two. They have one in Faneuil Hall. They do. In the garden, like right on the other side

of that wall. I'm actually a little hungry. See, I'm actually thinking Should I go to the Celtics game, or should I just go eat at Regina's and come home? We'll see. We'll see. Yeah, I think we're going out to get dinner after this, too, if you're interested.

I think, you know, let's do that. All right. Sounds good. All right. Let's do it. Again, we're breaking ground here today. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

All right. This has been a blast. It's been great. Thank you guys for having me. Yeah. Tony, thank you so much for coming on. You want to say or plug before we let you go? If you want to follow me, just go at underscore TonyPNDC because TonyPDC was taken.

But again, underscore, go that way, underscore TonyPNDC, all one word on Instagram. And same thing on TikTok if you want to follow me there. But mostly Instagram is my spot. But again, I just thank you guys for having me. Thank you for letting me have this platform. Not only to talk about the fun stuff, the really cool stuff, the funny things we talked about today, But it's also the more, you know, kind of the really kind of forward-looking and the serious stuff, things about vibramasculinity. It's very, very important.

We need to embrace these things. We need to really not only embrace it but encourage, you know, men to embrace vibrance and really, you know, being there and, you know, emotional intelligence and everything we talked about. I just think it's really important. And thank you for giving me that platform to speak about that too. Yeah. Well, thank you for what you're doing, man. We also think it's really important. Thank you.

We are stoked to have been able to have the chance to talk about it with you here in Boston. Thank you. So good to be right near the TD Garden. It's incredible. Yeah, we're in the garden. Jason Tatum's like 10 feet that way. Someday, hopefully, I'll shoot some threes with him.

Yeah, I think that, I mean, only a matter of months at this point. Thank you, Tony. Thank you guys for listening. Thank you. Love you. Love you. Bye.