Wiretap - Wiretap Introduces: The Big Five

Episode Date: April 27, 2026

The Big Five answers the most pressing question of our time: what are the “Big 5” of any given category? Not the best 5. Not the top 5. Not anyone’s favourite 5. But objectively, the Big 5. In each episode, Donovan Woods, Tom Power, and a celebrity guest tackle new topics and debate things like: what are the Big 5 farm animals? Types of hats? Slang terms for “butt”? Ways to cook a potato? Guys named Paul? Guests in this season include Vivek Shraya, Jordan Canning, William Prince, Lindsay Ell, Elamin Abdelmahmoud and more!More episodes of The Big Five are available wherever you get your podcasts, and here: https://link.mgln.ai/TB5xWT

Viking. Committed to exploring the world in comfort. Journey through the heart of Europe on a Viking longship with thoughtful service and cultural enrichment, on board and on shore. Learn more at viking.com. This is a CBC podcast. Hey, everybody, Tom Power here. I want to share something with you today. You might know me as the host of Q, where I do deep dive artist interviews. But I want to tell you about this new podcast.

I'm a part of. I do it with my friend Donovan Woods, the Juno-winning singer-songwriter, and two guests. And one of those guests could actually be you. The show is called The Big Five, where we try to answer the most pressing question of our time. What is the Big Five of any given category? Not the best five, not the top five, not anyone's favorite five. But the Big Five, Farm Animals, Types of Hats, Ways to Cook a Potato, guys named Paul. I guess there's Martin, McCartney.

Revere, Simon, John Paul Vasecond, maybe. Guests in this season include Vivek Shreya, Elamene, Abdel-Makmoud, William Prince, Lindsay L. And at the end of each segment, the debate is settled by a listener from across the country, so you could be the person who helps me decide once and for all what is the Big Five, I don't know, planets. Anyway, here's the first episode of our game show The Big Five. Take a listen and play alone. Oh, this is going to open a can of worms, but okay. I know just what you wrote that.

I'm wondering the same thing. Because I think we've all wondered that. Yeah, I have the exact same question you do. Oh, is it about Pluto and Goofy? It's about, is Goofy a dog? Is Goofy a dog? Yeah, Goofy's a dog. Yeah, Goofy's a dog.

Who has a pet dog. What's the relationship between Goofy and Pluto? It's confusing. Big Five. Well, then, it's time for the Big Five again. There's no stopping it. It's arrived and now it's here. Welcome to the Big Five podcast. I'm Donovan Woods, one of the hosts. And I'm here with my co-host, Tom Power.

Hello, Tom. Donovan, how are you? I'm really good. Tom, it's nice to see you. You seem like you're doing well. Oh, that's nice to you to say. We're also joined by our producer, Matt, who doesn't want us to use his last name because he's worried about getting too famous from this and he doesn't want to ruin his life because

we all know the fame ruins your life. Yeah, it's all over for you, Matt, seeing that they're going to find you on Reddit. Your Instagram numbers are going to start ripping up there and it's going to be trouble for you. You're going to have a subreddit named after that. Next thing, you know, you're going to be at a gas station and there's going to be paparazzi taking pictures of you. It's going to be, it's going to wreck your whole life.

But Matt, how are you? Are you okay? I'm doing good. He's good. So what is the Big Five? The Big Five is a podcast that introduces you to a notable and interesting special guests and then discusses life's most interesting questions, namely, what are the Big Five Five of any given category?

So the example I always like to use are the Big Five Farm Animal. So I think the Big Five Farm Animals are cow, horse, pig, sheep, and chicken. Nobody can disagree with that. Those are pretty much the Big Five Farm animals. I always try to add duck to that. That's right. You always do. And I think people can say goat.

In some countries, I think goat is real. I think a goat could be real. But those are some of the Big Five Farm. And I was like to explain it in another way. It has something to do with aliens. I like to describe it as if aliens came down to Earth and they showed up to you and they said, hey, big five donuts. I'm thinking about, you know, hey, welcome to Earth. Nice to be here on Earth.

Heading over to the donut shop to buy some donuts. What are the Big Five ones that we should know about? I always wonder if this description is helpful, but let's keep going through it. Or, you know, like, oh, well, Boston Cream, Dutchie, chocolate dip, sprinkly one, and maybe dip and they'd be like, okay, we got it. Sprinkly one, they'd kill you. They'd just run you through real quick. And they'd be you know, and then they'd say like, okay, well, now we

understand it. So that is the Big Five. It's all crystal clear now. Everybody understands what it is. Or you could describe it. Okay. So Tom, would you introduce our special guest who's been sitting here very patiently waiting for us to say all this stupid stuff? I'm so pleased to say joining us on the Big Five today is one of my closest friends.

Canadian Comedy Award, Canadian Screen Award winning director of shows like Fraggle Rock Back to the Rock. Star Trek, Strange, New World's Baroness von Schetchett's Chitts Creek has made some of her own films which are spectacular. The pride and joy, if I dear say so, of St. John's New Flying Labrador, I'm so pleased to say

Jordan Cunning joins us today. Jordan, how are you? Thank you so much for being here. Oh, thanks guys. Thanks for having. Great, Jordan Canning, how are you doing? I'm good. How are you? Thank you for doing this. Oh, my pleasure. How are you feeling up to this thing? You feeling excited? I feel great. I will say I instantly disagreed that Maple Dip was one of the top five

donuts, but... Hold on. Big, big five. Big five. Yes, that's fine. Yeah. Top five, definitely not. Okay, so in an effort to clarify the concept of the Big Five, we ask our guests to make a Big Five facts about themselves, so Jordan has done that and submitted them to me in here. I'll start reading them right now.

Big Five Fact One, director of 15 films and 13 TV shows. That's a lot. That's a lot of films. A lot of them are short. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Shorts. They're short films, yeah. Fact number two, 300 plus hours spent on Star Dew Valley and Animal Crossing during the pandemic. Minimum.

I played a little bit of starting. Valley and I made it only to that dance and no none of the women in the village wanted to go with me and I was like forget this game honestly I miss those days it was a good it was a great time you know it was only good careful now I didn't really big five best times I was a pandemic pandemic pandemic yeah the depression that was great wasn't as bad as people think plague yeah a lot of it was cool Number three. Fact number three about Jordan, I'm allergic to mangoes. You're allergic to mangoes. Yeah. That's interesting. Is it a, you'll... No, I just got a really gross rash. Your throat doesn't close or anything.

No, no. Well, fun fact, mangoes related to poison ivy. So it's a poison ivy-esque rash. And are you allergic to poison ivy too? I assume. Turns out not allergic to poison ivy. I can eat it. I can eat it. Make smoothies with it. It's great. Okay. Fact number four. I have Ryder Strong's email address. He came to a concert that I did in Los Angeles because he was a fan of the, I was in a co-bill with another guy named Henry Jameson and Radistrong as a fan of Henry Jameson and he came and we hung out with him.

He was cool. Why do you have a email? I was a point-meets world fan, obviously, who wasn't? One of my short films played at the Tribeca Film Festival in like 2011, I think, and I went down there for it. And he also had a short film in it there. And there was a party and he was there. And somehow we started chatting and I said, oh, I want to, whatever. He said, I'll send you my.

a link to my short and I will send you a link to mine as well so I can get your email address and we did that we exchanged our two shorts and that was it but I still have his email You didn't liaise, you didn't chat? No I mean this was like before I had a phone to text on this was not this wasn't

even really yeah I understand we wrote a song about him after we met him in the van and it was to the tune of Riders on the Storm by the doors and it goes actor rider strong his fame is riveled up and gone A little bit mean. That's mean.

Loves all of Henry's songs. Gets the titles wrong. Like a boy meeting a world. Topanga was a girl. Actor, writer, strong. Oh, yeah. And there's a whole bunch of other ones. That's good.

There's a feeney on the road. It went on and on and on. Fact number five, I was hit in the head with a metal baseball bat at four years old. It's very plain. very plain language. You were struck in the head with a metal baseball, like an aluminum bat? Yes. And a full speed. Were you playing baseball? I know. Well, I was helping my older cousin. It was obviously a total accident. And I feel like my family has really tortured him about it jokingly over the years. And I don't like to torture him about it. But it is a strong fact. I do have a lump on my head. You don't. Permanent. But it was a, you can't see it. My dad ran over my foot in the hospital parking lot when I was 11 years old. We were getting in the car.

from visiting my Uncle Joe, and he thought I was already in the car, and he drove over my foot, and then I went, Dad, Dad, Dad, and he reversed my foot. But apparently that was the, that was kind of okay. Everything kind of went back and everything was all right. It broke your foot and that unbroken. It never broke. I think they just got moved out of the way and moved back or something. Oh, really? I don't know. That's the memory I have. But my foot wasn't crushed her anything. It didn't hurt. The things got moved out of the way and then moved back? That's the memory I have. You're talking about your bones? He doesn't have any. He's having some.

some real trauma about this. We're watching it. I think you've repressed a lot of this. He's gone white as a sheet. Yeah. Apparently when my dad

when he drove it back over my foot, it healed it. So it was actually nice in my dad to do it. It was good. It was good. Sad.

Very sad. That's wonderful Big Five Fex. I feel like we have a bigger, better understanding of you know, of you know,

Jordan, thank you bringing that thing. Are you ready to play the Big Five? Do you understand the Big Five well enough? Yeah, I understood it

it when you explain kind of like the foot being run over. Tom kind of undid it a little bit. You got it the first time before the aliens? Yeah, I got it the first time. Yeah, I got it the first time. All right. Well, let's get going. And first of all, we got to ask Matt, what are we playing for today? What is the prize?

He's always a new prize. Today, whoever wins. The prize is a mug shaped like King Charles. Oh, wow. Full to the brim with hickory sticks. Wow. Wow. Oh, that is an amazing mug.

Oh, that's such a good prize. Do we have to call him King Charles? I guess we do. He's always Prince Charles. And it is full of loose hickory sticks. Okay, no, great. Okay, we got the prize and Jordan's ready. We'll be right back with round one of the big five.

It's the big five. It's the big five. Okay, well, Matt, what is the first category? Yeah, we have a listener from across the country here to tell us the first category. Hi, this is Joan. I'm 95 years old and I live in Guelph, Ontario. Oh. My category is the Big Five musical instruments. Oh, very good.

Oh, Joan. So interesting. Oh, yeah. She's 95 years old. 95. That's almost a century of musical instruments. So Tom, you won the coin toss. You'll get to say you're opening Big Five first, followed by Jordan, then Donovan.

and you'll all debate to see if you want to add or remove anything from your lists. Then after a few minutes, you'll have to each name your official big five and lock it in. Lock it in. Points will be awarded based on how close you are to Jones list. Jones list.

Tom. All right. I'm going to say violin, number one. Got to be one of the big ones, right? Violin is a big, you know, well-known instrument. Yeah. Reaches all around the world. A big violin.

It goes all the way around the world. Really long violin. This is you being confused about. We're not talking about the size of the instrument. Big. Biggest instrument I can think of. Big five. Big five?

How about a big huge violin? I'm going to say violin, number one. I played all around the world. Well-known instrument. And I think when you picture musical, I think if I typed musical instrument into my phone, that's interesting. That'll come up.

Yeah. Like an emoji, right? Oh, that's interesting. Big five. I've never thought of that. Just type musical instruments in there and see what comes up. See what comes up. I'm going to say guitar. Well-known instrument.

I don't know about Joan 95 years old. I think she probably thinks that's the devil's music is one. Joan, Joan knows about the guitar. She knows about it, but she like it? I don't know. I think so. And then I'm going to say the piano. Yeah.

Big deal. Yeah, you're on the right track. You know, big deal with that one, you know? And it's in the family here, so I'll get beat up if I don't say piano. I'm going to say drums. Oh. Yeah, you're just doing all the rock band ones. Drums.

Yeah, the classic rock band violin. Classic rock band violin. One of you, Owen Pallet. And then, you be Owen Pallet fan. And then number one, number five, I should say. And I don't know, it was the first one I wrote down, clarinet. Clarinet. That's interesting.

A lot of anger. Not angry. A lot of vitriol. No. It's more just, hmm. Wonderfulness. Interesting. Just wonder.

Clarinet. So I'm going to say violin, guitar, piano, drums, clarinet. Jordan, you're up. Okay. Harp? Maybe you should have said the harp. That is five instruments. He did pick five instruments. Okay. I, too, thought piano guitar and drums. Those came up.

Classic rock band to the guitar is Erie Lewis, yeah. Yeah. I thought my brain did definitely not go to clarinet, but it did go to saxophone. Oh, that's a big emoji instrument. It is. To me, it's a visual. It has a very specific shape. I'm going to say, when Joan was right in her prime,

that's when it was the hot time for saxophone. music when she was out on the town when she was meeting guys and she was wearing her flapper outfit and she was had a purse it was the dirty 30s I don't know I can't I can't do math fast enough to but she yeah I think you're right saxophone yeah and I mean I wrote down violin when you said violin but I don't it didn't come to my top of it's a well-known instrument yeah I know but is it what's better known than the violin I think violin is pretty strong to me honest with it but there's a lot of instruments that we are not saying. I know.

Do I have to say a fifth one right now? Yeah. Okay. You don't have to. I'll just throw one out there, even though I'm not sure I'm not going to lock it in. Yeah, that's okay. You're not locked in.

Well, um, trumpet. Yeah, great instrument. Oh, I think that might be a nice. I think that, okay. All right, Donovan. Okay. She's a brass gal. Well, thanks everybody for, for playing in the big five.

Oh, Bo. Bassoon. Bassoon. Eufonium. I played the euphonium. I know. What a shock I know that about you.

I know that about it. Never has someone more personified a guy who played the euphonium. I played the euphonium and the banjo, by the way, in the same year

not a lot of dates, not a tremendous amount of dates happening. And you're going to say the core on Glez. Okay. No. I'm excited. Thanks. It's a great category.

And thanks, you know, for speaking. And thanks to you guys for participating in the Big Five. And here's my initial opening. Stalling. I am.

I don't know what to say yet. I'm going to say yet. I'm going to say piano. He thanked us in the third round. I think the third time going around. First off, before I get going, I want to think. I'm happy to do this. I'm just happy to be here.

Jeb Bush. Okay. You're getting around and everyone else is talking. I say, Jeb, what do you think about the economy? First off, I want to thank everybody for people. First of all, I want to thank everybody here at Tufts University for having us. Tufts. I love that university.

Tufts. Just they named it like, what do you guys like? Well, I like Tufts of Gris. That's a good name for the union. Okay. Piano? I'm going to say piano. I think there's no way Joan's not saying piano.

I think that Joan is going to say violin. I don't think there's any way Jones not saying violin. Because I think she's a classy woman. I think she understands. I think when she thinks the music, she thinks of a symphony. I think she hears it in her head. She closes her eyes. That's quite an assumption.

Piano, violin. I am going to say saxophone, and I took that from Jordan. I think Jordan is right about that. I think saxophone will be in there. Piano, violin, saxophone. Then I'm going to say guitar. And then I am going to say flute. Yeah.

I actually changed clarinet to flute on mine. Because I think Joan played the flute. I think someone in the family played flute. I just have a feeling with flute. I changed clarinet to flute. Oh. Right there. He showed me a piece of paper and he did change it.

I think it's a well-known instrument. I feel like I, yeah. I'm going to go on a limit. I'm going to keep drums on mine because I feel like percussion needs. to be represented in the top five. It's funny. There isn't really that many. Like, there is like...

I mean, there's so many. There's so many, but it doesn't feel... Not a big five one. You're not clarinet, obo, not like... Viola cello. Yeah, viola cello. Like double bass.

Timpani. Timpani. Timpani. Xilophone. Oh, xylophone. I mean, nobody's going to say that. No one's going to say, like, aliens come down to earth and show me the big five instruments,

and you go, do like that song popcorn? You know, It's playing on that. Zylophone. Zylophone. Aliens. Zylophone. Nobody would say that.

You'd be lasered into... Yeah. Yeah, you'd be killed. I think it's pretty... Immediately. I mean, what does that sound mean, Matt? That means it's time. Just scared your choices and lock it in.

Sorry, Jordan. So, first up to lock it in is Donovan. You've got to make your choice. I don't want to be first to lock it in, but I'll do it. it. Okay. I'm going to say piano, violin, guitar. I think I'm sticking with my list. I think I'm saying piano, violin, saxophone, guitar, and flute. Lock it in. There's a locket. I flinched. Sorry. Jordan left. All right, Jordan, you're up. Okay, I'm going to go piano, violin, guitar, sax, drums. Piano violin, guitar, sax, drums. All right, lock it in? That's your same list. You stayed. Yeah. Everybody's very confident.

This is the first time two people have stayed. Tom, how are you feeling? Violin. You've got to get clarinet out of their guitar. It's embarrassing. Violin, guitar, piano, drums, flute. Oh, you stuck a drums in. Flute.

He took clarinet and he put in flute. I guess we're going to see what kind of lady, Joan, is. Is she a flute lady or is she a saxophone lady? Yeah, I know. Does Joan think of the human voice as an instrument? Maybe. She might do it to us like that. So I got to lock Tom's in air.

Good, it's locked in. It's all locked in. We almost didn't lock it in. Good, yeah. All right, are you ready to hear the answer? I'm so excited. I know, it's so nervous. I know, it's so intense.

So intense. Hey, it's Joan. Well, the big five musical instruments are piano, drums, guitar. Violin and clarinet. Oh my God. I can't believe we made fun of clarinet so much. Oh, my God.

That's to be fair. I had it right the first time. Holy Tom. What is a clarinet, if not the middle ground between a flute and a saxophone? You're right about that. We should each get points for that. You heard it in her voice. You heard it.

Wow. What's the first thing I wrote down? What's number one? Yeah, we know the first thing you read it. I wrote down clarinet. You got to trust your own instincts. You dadded yourself. Let it be a lesson to you.

You should take this as a learning moment. This is a learning moment. We created this so you would learn that lesson. What a sweet. Joan, thank you so much. Great, great list, great list. Viking committed to exploring the world in comfort. Journey through the heart of Europe on a Viking longship with thoughtful service and cultural enrichment.

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Point S, tires, and auto service. We did all guess a woodwind. Yep. So we had the categories. And Joan, you and I are cut from the same cloth. I'd say that much. You know? Maybe she played the euphonium, too.

Yeah, maybe Joan doesn't like your bad mouth in the euphonium and the banjo. She has a certain affection for playing Holst's Jupiter as well. Too my eight and I in band. Oh. Oh, boy. Were you in band? You're a musician. Were you in band?

Yeah, I was that. What did you play? I played the clarinet. Uh, Matt. So a tie, Ty? In round one, you each get one point for a correct answer. Wow. So Tom, Jordan.

You both have four points. Oh, he did. Donovan. You have three. I think what we're learning slowly is that I'm horrible at this game. Nobody got a true big five, although Tom's opening list was the true big five. Wow. That's the closest anyone's ever come to a tiebreaker thing.

Also, this is the closest anybody's ever come to a true big five is both of you tying for a four. That's the close. That's true. But there's still two rounds, so it's still anybody's game. Nobody's done a full big five. Not yet. That's so exciting. Could have been me if I hadn't been doubted.

Oh, wow. Yeah, we did give you a hard time. That was so exciting. Sorry, Tom. What a great first round. We'll be back with the second. round right after this little break. Okay, welcome back to the Big Five.

That was a very exciting round one. There's still shockwaves in the air in here, and we're still coming down from the high of Tom, almost guessing, clarinet, but not quite getting it. And we're ready to move into round two. Matt, do you have a category for us? Do you have another great listener? Yeah, here's another listener from somewhere across the country.

I'm a child welfare social worker in Winnipeg, Manitoba. My category is the Big Five Cartoon Dogs. Big Five Cartoon Dogs. That's right. Oh, okay. Wow. Cartoon dogs. I don't even know that I know five cartoon dogs.

So, Jordan, since you're the guest, you'll be making your opening statement first this round, followed by Donovan, then Tom. You got to give me a second hair. Yeah, I need a second here too. What are some cartoons dogs? Oh, this is going to open a can of worms, but okay. I know just what you wrote that. I'm wondering the same thing. Because I think we've all wondered that.

Yeah, I have the exact same question you do. Oh, this is about Pluto and goofy. It's about, is goofy a dog? Is goofy a dog? Yeah, Goofy's a dog. Yeah, Goofy's a dog. Who's a pet dog? What's the relationship between goofy and Pluto?

It's confusing. Say, they're saying with Mr. Peanut, why is he wearing a monocle on the top hat? What's the name of the, um, it's the big guy? Oh, I know. Yeah. What's his name? Clifford. Oh, wow.

A solid dog. Cartoon. Dogs. Oh, Clifford is a very good one. I can't even. Marmaduke. Oh, I got one. Okay, okay.

Marmaduke. Yeah, remember Marmaduke? That's a, do you think that's a, I guess that's a, I think of a comic versus cartoon. Oh, yeah. Okay. Keith Cliff. Oh, that's a cat, right?

That's a cat. Now, here's a question. Huckleberry hound. Okay, I wrote that down, but only because I know that name, but, Is Huckleberry Hand is actually a cartoon? Yeah, that's a cartoon. It is right? Not live action, is it?

No, no. It's not real, Jordan. No, I know it's not real. But I couldn't draw. I don't know what Huckleberry Hound looks like. I just know in reference to it existing. I've heard. Yeah, Huckleberry Hanna is also one.

Are the Care Bears dogs? No. Absolutely not. So Goofy's a dog that owns a dog? It's very strange. Yeah, I don't like that one bit. No, isn't he, um, Mickey Mouse? House's dog? Yeah. Or Donald's?

So in the Mickey Mouse world, some animals get to be, some dogs get to live with Mickey and be his friend. Some dogs need to be owned by Mickey. That's right. That's terrifying. Let's not talk about that too much. Let's not think about that too much. Who goes first, ma'amette? I have to. George. Okay. So is a pocaro a dog? No. Okay. He's a kangaroo. Okay. Now you saying Marmaduke is interesting, but I don't know about Marmaduke. Okay. So here are the ones I wrote down, Pluto. Seems the first one that came to mind. I did write down Huckleberry Hound, despite not knowing anything about Huckleberry Hound,

except for, there's a reference to it in Eternal Sunshine about, oh, my darling Clementine. Yeah. Just rewatch that movie, and I was like, Huckleberry Hound's a thing. Goofy, because I'm pretty sure he's a dog. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he says he's a dog. I wrote, I said Clifford, the big dog. Huge dog.

Big friendly dog. Yeah. And I said, Odie. I wrote Odie too. Yeah. Great dog. I think Marbe Duke's a good guess. but he's an annoying dog.

I never really liked Marmaduke. Whenever I saw Marmaduke, I was like, this is for me. This is for adults or something. Like, handicap. It was never for me. I don't think it's for anybody. Was he a Great Dane?

Is that what type of done it? What was how I feel also about people that I see with a great Dane, walking a great Dane around? I go, I don't want to know those people. They, I mean, they rule the house. What's happened to those people? They want a dog like that. Clifford was a really big dog, and the premise of the thing was that the clifford lived with the family, and he was really much bigger than the house itself, right?

Yeah. What was the premise of the house? Marmaduke. He was just a dog. He was just a big dog who, I guess, messed things up because he was big. His family was upset about it. The comics, the comics back in the day didn't have to do a whole lot of heavy lifting story-wise. I remember, I remember Andy Cap. He would just like have a nap facing the couch. Yeah, and he'd sit at a bar and drink a beer. Yeah, and call his wife Pet. Remember that? Yeah, and then there was, I mean, family circus and, and, uh, what was the other really annoying one? Hal and Lois. High and Lois. Yeah, yeah, that wasn't a great one. This is the telegram Saturday morning.

I mean, Kathy was fun. Chocolate, chocolate, chocolate, chocolate. Was it Blondie? Yeah, that was one, yeah. These are, they were seeing the telegram. This is literally the St. John's Telegram. Family Circus. Did we say that one over there?

Oh, yeah, family circus. Oh, it's me? Yeah. Okay, I'm going to say from the Simpsons, Santa's little helper. Oh, yeah. Santos L. Helper. Remember they registered him to vote?

Yeah. That was his name. Santos L. helper. Santa's little helper. I'm going to say Clifford. I think Clifford is great. I think that's a great. And I think Snoopy, of course.

Snoopy is maybe perhaps the most popular cartoon dog. Snoopy. And then here's another one that no one has said. And I think... Only Jordan's gone so far, by the way. Oh, sorry. Scooby-Doo. Oh, my Lord.

Scooby-Doo. Yeah. And then I have... Like the way you say it. Scooby-Doo. Scooby-Doo. I think it's just my accent. It only comes out when you say Scooby-Doo.

Yeah, yeah. People from sorry, and they say Scooby-Doo. I don't know any of the names of the 101 Dalmatians. And that seems silly because there's a hundred and one of those dogs. I don't know any of the names. Can I say the 101 Dalmatians? Sure. Oh, he just actually like it was.

He's doubting you. Matt knows the answers. I know. Yeah, sure. Okay, what about the dog from family guy? I don't know what that dog's name is. Stuie. No, Brian.

Brian. Okay, I'm going to say that. I'm going to say, Santa's Little Helper, Clifford, Snoopy, Scooby-Doo, and the dog from Family Guy, whose name I guess is Brian. I'm going to go, Odie.

Odie. What's that from? Garfield. Holy. Odie. Goofy. Snoopy. Pluto.

I think, I don't think, I think Pluto is so much more likely to be on there than Goofy. And Brian. And Brian from Family Guy. Yeah. That's a well-known dog, cartoon dog. Yeah. And this is a sort of a younger.

It seems like a younger guy. What was the Jetsons one's name? Astro. Not going to be Astro. If Astros on this list, I am, I'm leaving. You're walking out. I'm walking out. Jordan. Astro. Jetsons.

Oh, no, that was a dog. Dino was not a dog. He was a dinosaur. He served a dog function. Now, can we debate a little bit more? Do we have to lock? Play the dog role. Are there any other, I feel like, are we missing any of Disney ones?

Any other classic Disney's? Yeah, I was trying to think of that, but I don't. Someone's yelling, someone is listening to this podcast is yelling at something. Yes, we're forgetting something of it. There's a cartoon movie called like a dog's life or something? Airbud? Is Airbud? That's not a cartoon.

That's a real life dog. Oh, it's a real dog. And he actually does a documentary. A real basketball player. What about the Homeward Bound? Those are, again, not cartoons. Those are real dogs. Those are real, yeah.

All right. What about Benji? Not a cartoon. He's a real dog. Yeah. Okay. These are all real dogs. I thought maybe those movies were based on cartoon dog.

What about those like Fival Goes West movies and all that? No. All the whole thing is dogs. Yeah. Famously a movie about dogs. I love the Fival Goes West. I can't. I don't think I ever saw it.

But for some reason, whenever I see it, I go. American Tale. American Tale. I see that. That character I go, when I see it, I think that's for me. I like that. I like that guy. I can't remember what that movie is about.

But for some reason in my story. Do you guys remember Secret of NIM? Did you ever see that? Oh, I know that. It's on TV. It's one of those. eerie children's movies that you saw as a kid we were like

this is frightening but I love it. Scarier than Labrador. Well, I mean, I was obsessed with Labyrinth. Never ending story. What's the story of Fival Goes West and American Tale? A mouse comes to America and needs to make his own way. Oh, it's like immigration stories.

Oh, that's kind of nice. Lival Goes West then I think he just goes, it becomes a kind of a cowboy story. Oh, cool. I don't really know. See a dog? He's a mouse. Oh, God damn it. But are there any other, there's no other big Disney ones? I'm thinking of a TV show. Is there a dog in Cinderella?

No. Okay. I don't know. I'm thinking more like the star of the show. Are the seven dwarfs? Is dopey a dog? I have a just dopy. Hold on.

What other TV shows is the same thing? Sleepy a dog. They were all of dwarves except for it sleepy. Who was a dog? I don't know. I think that's it. Yeah. I feel like there would be more, but there is, I mean.

There's more. We're forgetting. Scooby-Doo. Scrappy-Doo? Scrappy-Doo? That would be nuts if both the dos were on it. Double-due? You can't do double-due on this.

The alien. The list is goofy, Pluto, and the double-dues. And there's only four. There's not five. Is there a Nintendo dog? No. Mario doesn't have a dog. Is there a obscene Bernard dog?

No, there's not. Beethoven, but that's a real dog. All the dogs are real dogs. All the dogs go to heaven. What was that movie? Nobody. What about real dogs? It's about real dogs.

What about when Homer played a character called poochie? Yeah. Poochee. I would love it if Dave listed poochie. Poochie. How about Marley and me? That's a real dog. It's a real dog.

You guys know what a cartoon is, right? What if you like drew a picture of it? What about this picture I have right here with Marley and me? Is that a cartoon dog? What about this fan fiction I drew about Marley? That count? Dave? Dave says it. I'd you know about that, Dave. I'm good. I think I can do it.

It's time to lock it in. Time to lock it in. How old is? He sounded R-ish age. He's our age. 30s. Works with kids, though. Works with kids.

38. Social worker. Oh, okay. Works with kids. Social worker. Is Paul Patrol a dog? Oh, what that? We can't be talking about paw patrol.

They're all dogs. They're all dogs, but those are the most famous dogs right now. I know. Matt said he works. works with kids. I don't know any of the pop patrol dogs, so you can tell me.

The cop. What's the most famous one? The policeman. Okay. No, writer's the boy. Marshall. You know the dog.

Oh, you have a kid. I have children. Marshall. Three children. Rubble. Yeah. Really? Yeah.

They're all pop patrol age? Yeah. Well, no. Not the older ones would, they don't like pop patrol anymore. And they would be so mad if you said that even. If you even say a pop patrol around and they're like, ugh,

when they do a puking sound. Rubble, Sky. I don't think he's going to say this. Maybe he'd just say the Paw Patrol, though. Like, I don't think he's going to say the individual dogs and Paw Patrol, is he? All right. Well, is, am I going first? Everis? Your first? Oh, here's my locked-in answer.

Odie? No, no, it's not. He's, the clarinet flute thing has rattled him to the core. And now he can't commit. I can't do it. The clarinet's rude. I'll be unable to make decisions in my own life. I'm so upset. I'll end up homeless wearing a barrel. Scooby-Doo. Yeah.

Snoopy. Pluto. Brian. Brian. Brian for family guy. Brian Griffin. I'm just trying to say between one of the Paw Patrol dogs or Odie.D. I'm just going to say Pop Patrol dogs.

Okay. Got a name one. I got a name one? Yeah. Mark Marshall. Lock it in. Mark. Mark.

Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Ronnie. Lyle. Ronnie. I got to say one of the popadoles.

Okay. Daryl. Craig. I don't know. All right, Doc. Okay. I'm going to say, I think he's going to say Santa's little helper because I think he's quirky. Although I'm horrible at this game.

Big five dog, Santa's Little Helper. Santa's Little Helper. Snoopy, Scooby-Doo. I love the way you say it. Clifford. Scooby-Doo. Oh, you're putting Clifford on there. Santa's Little Helper.

Clifford, Snoopy, Scooby-Doo, and Pluto. Pluto, Scooby-Doo, Snoopy, Clifford, Sandus Little Helper, lock it in. Throw away the key. All right. Jordan. I do like this variety that we're all doing. I'm definitely Snoopy and Scooby-Doo. Can't believe I didn't think of those.

I'm going to say, I'm putting Odie on the list. I got affection for Odie. That's crazy. And I'm going. I'm regretting my last big position to guess. one of the Ball Patrol dogs by randomly saying one that Donovan's set to me. Yeah. It's got me all shagged off.

Odie must have been really popular in Newfoundland, right? He was a really, yeah. Yeah, Garfield played on the main network. Garfield was a big part of my life. It wasn't a big deal for me. Inspector Gadgett, got played a lot in Newfoundland, too. There was a dog in Expector Gadget. Yeah, what was his name?

Brain. Was his name Brain? Brain. No, that's the bad guy. No, that guy's Dr. Claude. Dr. Claw. Brain was the little guy. The story guy.

The story I heard is that the guy who ran NTV, like the TV station back home, Jeff Sterling, loved Inspector Gadgett. So in Newfoundland, we watched way more Inspector Gadget than you did. He just like, it was on all the time. It was constantly. Do you know, Numanomeneke, Inspector Gadget. Why did you say Numa Nomenomenique? Did you guys not say Numenomeneke? No.

When we sang it in Sarnia, Matt couldn't confirm this for me, we said, Numani, I don't know, it's just something we did. But you only sang it the first time? Then you went Dup-Dip-Di after that. Well, I wanted, I didn't want to confuse you guys. we sit at every single time. Hey, don't be rude about our distinct culture, insinic. We have a very distinct culture.

Two things, Newman, Dominique and Scooby-Doo. Scooby-Doo. Scooby-Doo. Scooby-Doo. And Newman. And, Dill pickle pizza. One?

Do we have that in Cernia? No. Yeah. Oh, that's nothing that we were. The first time I had, it was in Cernia. Someone said, the best pizza we have is at this place to get the Dill-Pickle pizza. Was it Gerezies? I don't know about this.

I don't know about this. I don't know about puffins. We go like, I don't even know what they are. Yeah, Tom was like, Puffin's not a big part of my life. We're like, kind of, dude. Just like tell us about Puffins, my man. They weren't a big part of my life. No.

No, we didn't see them. No, he had to go on a boat to see it. Yeah, I saw them once. We'll go on the boat. Tell us about it. That's all we want. Who has to lock in? I saw.

Jordan has two more. I'm going to roll the dice on the two Disney Bigs. Yeah. The anthropomorphize Goofy. Two Disney Bings. And his pet. Pluto. Goofy Pluto.

Goofy Pluto. Odie. Snoopy, Snoopy, Scooby-Doo. Lock it in? Wow. Sure. Whatever. I'm not confident.

Domyn said throw away the key. Jordan said, sure. Sure. Whatever. I don't like I'm wearing that much. All right. You ready to hear the answer? Yeah.

Here we go. Hey, it's Dave from Winnipeg, the Big Five, Cartoon dogs are. Snoopy. Scooby-Doo. Bluey. Chase from Paw Patrol. Chase?

And Goofy. Yes. Yes. You gave me the wrong Paw Patrol. I would have said anyone you said. I watch Bluey every morning. Yeah, it's really good. I'm not kidding you.

That's true. That's a very popular, but new popular. But here's the thing, I don't think of him as a dog. I love them more than that. I hear it's, I mean, I watched a little bit with my niece. It's pretty great. It's beautiful. Yeah, it's for grownups and kids alike.

Wasn't Matt, you were saying that. like in your world, it's like the highest level TV. It's a top 10 TV show of all time. Like, it's just, it's amazing. It's like cheers. Oh, it's on my list with cheers, absolutely. What did he say that nobody got? Chase from Paw Patrol, because you gave me Marshall.

Bluey, nobody got, nobody even said Bluey. Bluey and Chase from... Jordan and I weren't going to say Bluey. We don't have kids. We don't have kids. I do know about Bluey, but I would not have thought. I'm thinking 80s here. That's so many kids, it's unbelievable.

I didn't think of it either. So that wasn't the issue. You had an advantage. You know? I know. I know. Louis was the number two TV show in the world last year. What was number one?

Suits. Yeah. Just for that year, though. Just for that year. Suits is still the number one TV show? No, no. Suits had a resurgence last year. It went on Netflix and everybody started rewatching it.

They had a big. Because it made him on Netflix and everybody started watching it. No, because of my good buddy Patrick J. Adams. I met him one time. Nice guy. Yeah, cricket. I love suits. You're a nominee.

Patrick Adams. Go, Patrick. Go. He's not. really a lawyer, but he's pretending to be one. Oh. Well, that was a great round. And who won?

We got to find it who won? Yeah, so Jordan won that round with three. Jordan, walking in here. Justin Goofy. He was just walking in here and winning two rounds in a row. Yeah, Tom and Donovan each with two. Tom chose the wrong Paw Patrol, the wrong big Disney dog. I didn't know this was part of it.

of the story. Just crapping on you. You're making me feel like Pluto feels from goofy right now. So going into round three, Jordan's in the lead was seven, followed by Tom was six, Donovan with five. But, of course, points are doubled in round three. Oh, I didn't know that. So it's anyone's game. Still anyone's game. So it's seven, six, five right now? That's right. Oh, my God.

It's still anyone's game. All right. We'll be right back with the third round. Well, welcome back to the Big Five podcast for round three. Remember, keep in mind that we're playing for a mug in the shape of King Charles's head that's full of loose hickory sticks. And during the break, Tom ate one of the hickory sticks out of the king Charles head. Very fresh. To be perfect nose of you, I don't like it. It's part of the prize and you should leave it until somebody wins the King Charles mug fully. I was very afraid they're very fresh new hickory sticks. They're not old hickory sticks. They've

been poured into the head in a very recent. When we were planning this podcast, Matt was like, The things we use for the prize Maybe they can be sponsors I don't think we're going to get sponsored by a King Charles mug With hickory sticks in it It's not a company Not with that attitude, you won't Where did you get it?

Somewhere in Kensington You won't say the thing because he's worried about fame again So wary of fame All right, we're back Jordan is in the lead Jordan, you having fun? Oh yeah With seven points

Tom's got six points, I got five points but all the points are doubled in round three. So it doesn't matter. Anything's possible. It's different than what you said to me last time I was winning going into round three, and what Donovan put it as is you can still lose is what he's hit to me. Oh, I think personally, this is just between me and you. I think Tom needs to come down two pegs.

Two pegs, minimum. I'm going to bring them down one peg personally. So it's anybody's game. We're moving into the third round. What did you say to me last time I've been socking dingers for too long? Yeah, you've been socking dingers your whole life. Like Alec Baldwin. says about Jerry Seinfeld's life, one

boulevard, one unbroken boulevard of green lights. That's what you've had. Ever since folklore school. It's been a home run. I paid my dues in folklore school. Yeah. Is it? All right. We're moving into round three.

Matt, what is the category? All right. Here's a listener with the category for round three. Hi. This is novelist, poet, and TV writers. Zoe Wittall. Author of the Best Kind of People, the fake and most recently, failure. My category is the big five

slang words for drunk. Oh. Hi, Zoe. Hi, Zoe. Hi, Zoe. Thank you for doing this. Love Zoe. Newfoundlanders are going to have such different ones than everybody. Oh, I know. I know what I mean? Yeah. Because where is Zoe from? Is we from Ontario? She's from Quebec, I think. Is she? Originally.

No, she, no, I think she's from Quebec. She's from one of the big fives of Canada. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. That's a dangerous one to do. What are the big five provinces? That's how I lose my job. I love that. I love that.

I lose my job. I'll never do it publicly, but I love that discussion. All right. For the final round, Donovan. Ontario, Quebec. Okay, really quick, really quick. Ontario, Quebec, BC, Nova Scotia, Newfoundland. Thank you for saying that.

I appreciate it. For the final round, Donovan, you'll list your opening five first, followed by Tom, then Jordan. I don't like to go first. Okay. Well, thanks for. being here, everybody. I appreciate everybody. He's doing it again.

He's taking out of time. I appreciate Tufts University for having us. It's been nothing but first class. The entire weekend, it's been first class from when we arrived to right now. Dave, my driver's been really good. Everybody here has been great to us. So it's nice to be here. Thank you for being here. Slang words for drunk. I'm going to start with hammered. I think there's no way hammered is not on that list. Man, I saw Dave last night. He was. The guy was hammered. Yeah. So there is an opportunity, a point of order, man, there is an opportunity for a lot of swearing in this category.

Got to stick to the rules. And we got to stick to the rules. So we're not going to use any that have swearing in them. Okay. Okay. That's good. That eliminates a lot of them. I think it's good, too, yeah.

Yeah. Although, the one I like to say is a swear word. I'll tell you that much right now. Hammered. Okay. Hammered. I'm going to say, number two, I'm going to say, Blotto. Oh.

My name's Otto. I like to get Blot. I'm going to say really kind of middle of the road ones because I don't think, well, I know, I know Zoe. I don't know that Zoe, I don't know that Zoe's a big drinker. I don't think that she is. But Zoe's a very literate.

Yeah, super literate. So she'll know some good ones. I read a short story book as Zoe's, it isn't out yet, and I liked it very much. And everyone was pretty sexy. Every story was pretty sexy. That's all I'll say about that.

Three smash. Tell us more about your advanced copies you're getting it. One hammered. I read a book that you guys can never read. And it was pretty. great. Well, you'll read it when it comes out. Not quite yet. It's only for celebrities right now.

One hammered, two, blotto, three smashed, four. I'm going to say wrecked. Huh. Wrecked? I saw Dave last name. He was wrecked, dude. Buddy. I have so many, but I feel like

a lot of them are very Newfoundland based. And then... Chiprocked. Meg's Famaugh's. Grand Falls, Meg's family. Chip Rock is a great one. I saw Dave last night, man. He was chip-rocked. Chip-rocked?

What does that mean? I don't know. Loaded. Hammered, blotto, smashed, wrecked. I can't even think of a fifth one right now. I think... He'd be better. I mean, he just said one.

Yeah, I had to say chip-rocked. Not that one. That one. What's that another one? Loaded. Oh, yeah. Loaded is pretty... I saw Dave last night.

He was loaded. He was loaded. Loaded. Loaded. Okay, I'm going to say hammered blotto, smashed, wrecked, loaded. Loaded. Recked loaded. That's my opening five.

All right, Tom. Loaded, hammered, tipsy. Hmm. That's a classy way to say it. Half in the bag. Oh, yeah. Or just in the bag. In the bag.

In the bag. Yeah, half in the bag would be like a real newfoundland way of saying it, right? Yeah, I think you just say in the bag. In the bag. I don't have to say it. Oh, you know what? I got clarinet mad now. Now I'm wondering whether it's half in the bag.

Half in the bag. You can't Google it. In the bag, I'm not. You look at it. If somebody text me, I got to look at it. Because I have so many children, many children, across this great nation. I'm thinking about out of his mind. I saw David.

I know. I was out of his mind. Out of his gourd, but that's not. Out of his mind loaded. See, you got to put loaded at the end. What about like blackout? I put blackout. Okay, I'm going loaded, hammer, tipsy, half in the bag, in the bag, wrecked.

Okay. Don't forget, drunk and also be like, I feel like you. No, no, no, no. A lot of big ones. Three sheets to the wind. I'm doing that one. Yeah.

Hmm. That is very literary. Yeah. For Zoe. Yeah. Three sheets to the wind. It's like what Pa Ingalls would say. I saw Dave there last night.

He was three streets. Sorry. What were yours again? He was four seeds short of a cucumber. Loaded hammered tipsy in the bag. Four seed shoot short of a cucumber. Loaded hammered tipsy in the bag. three sheets to the wind.

And what did you say there, buddy boy over there? Hammered, Blotto, smashed, wrecked, loaded. Blato. You said smashed. That's the one I don't really believe in. Yeah, I don't believe in the Simpsons, right? I got that from the Simpsons. Yeah, but it is something people say.

You hung out in Sarnie and someone said, oh, hey, I go in there, Donovan. I got Blotto there last night. Yeah, they would say the other things. How's that for the accent? Was that guy? I had a dilled pizza, and then I got blotto, buddy. Guy, how many times I'm at Jay's house? and I bring 12 coqueney

and then Aaron drinks I see him drinking coquony and he didn't even bring any so I know he's drinking my That's a serni accent? That's a serene accent? Yeah, I do. Matt,

A lot of it is saying cocany. I love coqueney. Yeah, it is. Me too. I don't think of Sarnia of it though. No, I think about the Rockies. Yeah, Rocky Mounts. Rocky Meats.

Yeah, but that's what we think of when we're in Sarnia too. When we're having Cokinia, we think of the Rocky Men. Right. Now, I feel like there's some real ones that got missed to Jordan, lay on me. Say what they are. Well, no, nobody said plastered.

Oh. I mean, plaster's pretty key. Also, no, he said wasted. Yeah, nobody said wasted. That's no good. He's wasted last night. Oh, Jordan, these are good. So.

I got three sheets to the wind, but I don't have wasted. Yeah, I know why. Also, now, there's a few other ones here I got. I'm not sure they're going to make my top, but I'm going to mention them in case they're of interest. Sloshed. Sloshed. Trashed. Oh, my God.

But is that to Newfoundland? No. I know. He's trashed. Blasted? Maybe that's like getting high. Blasted is high for me. Blast is maybe not one.

Oh, no, I think it's drunk. I saw Dave last night. He ate two of those weed gummies. He was blasted. Yeah, I don't know if it's... No, he's drunk for me. But about blackout. I would just say about that.

He was like really high? Blackout? Blackout? That's sort of sad, though. I know. That's not like necessarily you're just drunk. That's like a specific type of thing. Yeah, that's you have a problem.

That's a big issue. We got to talk to Jerry. Deeper issue. Yeah. I do think Hammered is good. I definitely thought loaded. What about, is, I mean, pie-eyed? Is that weird?

Pie-eyed. He was pie-eyed, see? It was real pie-eyed, but I had too much sasperilla. I think you're piet if you get bunked in the head with a moon-in-a-bat. Then you're pious. I saw David there last night. He was drinking brandy boy. He was pious.

Three sheets to the wind is interesting. Oh. And wait. What were years again? Sloshed? What were years again? I had more. I had wrecked and ripped.

Ripped. Ripped. That's maybe too. Newfoundland, I think. Ripped is, I don't say ripped. It's not on, it's not. You're not, I guess that's kind of on terror. You're getting ripped tonight, buddy.

Oh, yeah, you're getting ripped. He's ripped. What were your first? What were your first? I said plastered and low, and wasted. Those were my two biggies. Now, and trashed. He's, he's, he's ham bone.

He's hammered. He's, that guy is messed up drunk. I think, messed up is good. Messed up is good. But again, that's sort of more like a level of drunkenness. It's not like you're just... Yeah, that's right. I guess all of these are sort of, you're too drunk. Well, I got tipsy in there, right? And that's a level of drunk.

I think that Zoe, as a not a heavy drinker... I don't know. I think I'm ready. I think I'm ready. I mean, it's time to lock it in. That sounds just crazy. And Jordan... Oh, God. You were having to lock it in first. Yikes.

The winner, by the way. Jordan's got a winner. A lot of... I'll lose here. This is... Yeah, I don't know. Jordan's got a lot of post-cliots over there. A beautiful mind-type room over there. She's running string across the wall. Oh, boy.

wasted. Okay. Okay, I'm just going to go with my gut here. I'm going to say hammered. Yeah. Plastered. I'm going to go with sloshed because it's a fun one. Loaded and trashed.

All right. Lock it in? Yeah. It's locked in. Yeah. That is an upgrade from sure. Yeah. Whatever.

Yeah, whatever. Whatever you want. All right. Next up is Tom. Loaded. What? Loaded. This is a good really.

How you said that as funny. Loaded. Loaded. Wasted? Wasted. Tipsy. Trashed. Tipsy.

I don't know why you believe in Tipsy so much. Watch now. Watch now. You have yet to win a round. Just giving it out and he's never won. He's never come close to winning. And he's like, yeah, whatever. Gipsey.

Not on my list. I think it's one point. I'm strong with my opinions. But you are. That is true. I've never won. He's never won. So take it with a greener-old.

I would never put that down. Well, I put there as hula hand. I got that number one. Plastered is my last one. Plastered. Lock it in? Lock it in. So you said the same as me except we swapped wasted for sloshed.

We have the same list. I said tipsy. Oh, and you said tipsy. Okay. Donovan. Okay. I'm going to say hammered. Oh, God.

I wish I had locked in hammered. Hammered. Wasted. Plastered. Loaded. Tipsy. Say tipsy. Wasted.

Say blotto. Wasted. Hammard. Be brave. Say blotto. What did I say? Wasted, hammered. Plastered loaded.

Plastered loaded. Lock it in. Wasted, hammered. Plastered loaded, wrecked. Oh, we could ever say wrecked. Wasted. Hastered I'm not sure about. I just don't think Zoe's always going to go there.

I'm going to take out plastered and I'm going to put smashed. Wasted, hammered, smashed, loaded, wrecked. Lock it in? Lock it in. Throw away the key. I really regret that I didn't say hammered. Well, we'll see now. You might all be wrong.

Is Tom allowed to unlock his lock in? No, that's his locked in. Once the sound effect goes. Yeah, that's right. That's the end of it. I wish that we could help you out, Tom. It's a legal matter. It's before the courts.

We can't even talk about it. It's before the courts. I can't imagine what it's going to be. Ready for the definitive answer? Zoe, let's hear it. Big five slang words for drama. I hate this part. I'm so nervous.

I know. Hey, it's Zoe Wittall and the big five slang words for drum. are wasted, hammered, okay, tipsy, loaded, and three sheets to the wits. No, I took it out! I took it out! Damn. Oh, Tom, you're so good at this game. But you doubt yourself, and that's what makes you weak. Isn't it sad?

How did? I can't believe. I got tipsy. Everyone old, old, right answer Donovan over there going like, tipsy. I have no idea what I'm doing, obviously. Tipsy, no thanks. Oh, my God. I only wrote down cabled.

She had Tipsy and three sheets to the wind. I've just noticed that Matt actually has a rubric to tabulate the scores. That's unbelievable that he printed that out with his laser ink jet. Thank you for doing that, Matt. Okay, all right. I'm ready to. Is it Tom? Yeah, I think Tom.

Yeah, okay. I don't think so because I didn't get hammered. Okay, Matt. So in round three, Jordan got two correct. For four points. Okay. Donovan and Tom both got three correct for six points, which means the final tally, Jordan 11, Donovan 11, Tom 12.

Yeah. Oh, he's got a lot to say over there in mid-round. He's got a lot to say about his choices, and he loses every time. You know why? Because I understand the taste of the people. Donovan, what happened to those pegs we were going to take him down? I feel like now he's just added pegs. I'm climbing up.

Not tonight, dude. Not tonight. I'm going up three more bags tonight. No, not going to happen. Oh, well, that was a very interesting round of the big five. That was a great one from Zoe. So interesting. Thank you, Zoe, for that category.

Can I have my mug? Oh, here you go. Here it is. The King Charles mug with the Hickory Stick. Oh, thank you very much. Would you like a Hickory Stick? Sure. May all the Quaintance be.

That's the National Anthem of England, right? That's the All Langu. That's what it is. there you go. Oh, there's nothing quite like a hickory stick. Come on. Have a couple of hickory sticks. It tastes like something that, it doesn't taste like a barbecue, but it tastes like something.

What would you drink this? What would you drink out of this? Tea. Tea and coffee? Sure. In the morning, every morning? Yeah. I mean, I'd say more tea.

I think you just take that to work. I think it on my desk. Make it a conversation piece. Yeah, yeah. Jordan, thank you. Thanks for having me, guys. This was super fun. You were an excellent guest.

Thank you. And even though no one can beat me at this game. Tom, unbelievable. Until next week. Thank you for coming, Jordan. Much appreciated. Thanks for everybody for participating in the Big Five, and it's always a joy to play it. And thanks for listening.

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