With The Perrys - Everybody Got a Lil Peter in Them

Episode Date: March 16, 2026

Peter may be one of the most relatable disciples. He’s bold, passionate, sometimes impulsive, and a natural leader, which we read about in Scripture. His story shows how our greatest strengths can b...ecome massive stumbling blocks. From boldly declaring Jesus as the Messiah to denying Him three times, Peter’s life reminds us how quickly we can fall, yet his restoration shows us the heart of God. After your failure, do you run to Jesus? Like we see in Peter’s story, Jesus is patient with us and committed to making us more like Him. Scripture references: Matthew 16:13-222 Luke 22:33 Mark 14:26  Psalm 139:1-4 John 21:1-4, 7 Revelation 2:4-5 John 21:15-17 This Episode is Sponsored By: https://oneskin.co — Get 15% off using code PERRY! https://timtebow.com/tree-perry/ — Get your copy of If the Tree Could Speak by Tim Tebow on Amazon today! https://magicspoon.com/PERRY — Get $5 off your next order! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:02 That's why you've been responding to me. Because Preston, you can text this man and say, I am stuck in Antarctica. not going to see it. And but people come, because he has his read receipts on. That's the thing. And so his read receipts on. And so people come to me like, did press and see my text? I promise you, he opened it and did not look at it. Like he just, he just opened it. But he didn't read it. Sometimes I'd be tired of seeing all those notifications up there. So I just open them and just close. And people be asking you for how to not get divorced. And you just be like, mm-hmm. And this is the thing, though. You know what?
Starting point is 00:03:39 You know why that's really sad? Why? Because I really care. I know you care. I know you care. People be thinking I don't care. But you're overwhelmed and overstimulated. And so you're just knocking off the numbers.
Starting point is 00:03:51 And I have to come in and say, I promise you, charge it to his head and his heart, but not like mostly his heart. Do you know I was bragging about you last night in Alabama? Okay. Because I was telling him, I was like, you don't know how much of a blessing it is to have somebody on this earth. They really know you. Yeah. He don't mean nothing about it. I'm like, I'm like, go talk to Jackie.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I'm more offended than all of them. Because when I call you six or seven times, like that time I was on the treadmill and they said that Sage was running down the hall yelling and you had your phone on D&D. I said, what if I was dying? I would have been there. What if I was on my way to being deceased? I would have been there. I had to get off that treadmill. I believe it by faith.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I would have been there. Lower would have to let you see the text. But it said, pressing look at your phone. I would have been there. That's how you sound. Yeah. Okay. So we want to talk about Peter.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Today, we want to dialogue about Kefa! That's what they said in Passion of Christ. Say it again. Kefah! You all been passionate of Christ when they say? Kefah! I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Because when we read the Hebrew, it says Seifis, they're Kefah! That's his name of the Hebrew. I want to start out by saying I don't know if this is a bold statement, but I truly believe it. In some way, shape, or form, every Christian is Peter.
Starting point is 00:05:15 We're all this guy. Peter is often, he's often talked about, sometimes I feel like he's dissed a little more than he should be dissed. But we're all him. And I think that his life is very, my favorite person in the scriptures
Starting point is 00:05:32 in the past to study has been Paul. But Peter, studying his life, I mean, you... Peter's interesting. He's very interesting. Yeah. Our old passie often compare me to Peter. Yeah, because you are very bold, passionate, impulsive, anxious.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I think all the things, you know. I think what's interesting is I'm going to bring up passion into Christ again because I watched it like two weeks ago. And I was like, why the passion of the Christ Peter is like 48? And then like the chosen passion, Peter got muscles and is a solid 27. Like I was like, who was decided? Because if I'm not mistaken, the disciples were young. So I don't know. I think the passion of the Christ Peter, I don't like to envision Peter that way.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I prefer to envision him as like the Peter and the chosen. Because Peter and the chosen, he gives like, I don't know. where was they at? Where was they from? I don't know. Middle Eastern Thug. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He gives like, I'm a follow Jesus,
Starting point is 00:06:45 but if I got to catch these fish to make these bucks, no worries. Yeah, I like the Choseness, Peter. I think they did a really good job of all the characters on the Chosen. I love what they did with Matthew. I love what they did with Peter. Yeah, but when you think about Peter,
Starting point is 00:07:01 what's the first thing that comes to mind when you think about Peter? Everything I said you are. Okay. What is some... Impulsive, passionate, anxious, bold. Yeah, I just... But I'll say the scenario that comes to mind
Starting point is 00:07:22 is when he is fishing with his brother. I think Andrew was his brother, yes? He's fishing with Andrew in the boat and it says that they were fishing all night. Jesus asked to use the boat. be confusing stories, but I believe Jesus got into the boat and was like, hey, put the net on the other side. And he like, hey, man, we've been doing this all night.
Starting point is 00:07:46 And not only have we been doing this all night, we've been doing this. So we know that if the fish ain't came all night, they're not going to come. And Jesus is like, put the net out. And he's like, okay, that's your word, I'm going to do it. He'd do it. That thing just fills with fish. and then Peter's response isn't gratefulness at the catch. It's fear at the person in the boat.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Because he has a cognizance of what just happened that says, this can't be just a man in my boat. And he's like, oh, my goodness, like he confesses his sinfulness. So I think that quick repentance to the revelation of who was in the boat is how I imagine him. Because to me, I just feel like that says a lot. Not necessarily about his, God animates character. So his repentance is a fruit of the Holy Spirit's work. But I think his character is saying like, no, like you, you something else.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Because I think we talk about Peter. We talk about his impulsing this. I've heard people name him the foot-shaped mouth disciple because he always put his foot in his mouth. Stuff like that. Because he often did put his foot in his mouth. But when you look at Peter, he's something.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I have to understand some of the things that the Lord told him to do is like, it's the reason why he doubted. It's a reason why, you know, but at the same time, if you look at his life, he did display great character. Because even this passage, if you're talking about, Jesus was teaching them, you know, and then afterwards, he says, you know, put out your nets to the deep for a catch. And Peter, Peter being, like, bold person, he's like, I don't want to do that. We fished all night. But after they caught all of the fish, you know, he was afraid. But then immediately after that, it says that Peter and not only Peter, but his brothers, they dropped everything, abandoned their boats and they followed him. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:43 And so I think that we have to understand that Peter's faith was like evident, you know what I'm saying, in the scriptures as well, not just him being a loud mouth bowed, you know, person who put his foot in his mouth. He had great faith. And yeah, so that's the reason why I really respect Peter a whole lot. Every now and then you find something that's less about hype and more solid and science-backed. And that's how we feel about one skin. What initially caught my attention about the brand is that it was founded by an all-woman team of longevity scientists with PhDs in stem cell biology, skin regeneration, and tissue engineering. One skin is rooted in real science and expert research.
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Starting point is 00:11:05 you heard about them let them know that preston gave you an excellent excellent ad and this is not just for women men's skin matter too yeah we kind of want a dialogue about the latter not the latter end of his life but the latter end of peter's role in the gospels uh just because i think he's his what he displays in these narratives can really find a lot of symmetry and probably what is displayed in our own particular lives. And I think one text that was really intriguing to me earlier, probably last year, is Matthew 16. And I'm going to just read some of it because I feel like it's helpful. Matthew 16 starting at verse 13. Now when Jesus came into the district of Cessori of Philippi, he asked his disciples, who do people say that the son of man is?
Starting point is 00:12:04 And they said, some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah and others Jeremiah are one of the prophets. He said to them, but who do you say that I am? Simon Peter replied, you are the Christ, the Messiah, the son of the living God. And Jesus answered him, blessed are you, Simon, Bar Jonah, son of Jonah, for flesh and blood have not revealed this to you, but my father who is in heaven. Keep that in your mind. And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock, I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Keep that in your mind. And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven and whatever you're buying on earth shall be bound in heaven. Whatever you lose on earth shall be loose in heaven and he shirkly charges the disciples.
Starting point is 00:12:38 So there in Cessaria, Philippi, Jesus is like, hey, who do people say that I am? Peter, quick to talk, is like, you are the Messiah. You are the Christ. If anybody knows anything about the Torah, they have been looking for this Messiah. a prophetic kingly figure for a very long time. And it isn't purely that Peter has reasoned his way into this understanding and awareness. It is that it has been revealed to him. Like he is seeing who Jesus is by proxy of God's revelation. Then God commissions him and tells him, you know what, on this rock, I will build my church. He establishes him as kind of a fundamental, foundational feature in the church that God is going to build when Christ Jesus rest.
Starting point is 00:13:28 or Rex. Then he tells him, I'm going to give you the kingdom of heaven, bound on earth, da, da, da, and a lot of Catholicism, I think Catholicism has its roots in this text because they say that Peter is the first pope. We're not going to go there, but yeah. So why that's significant to me is because right after this, starting of verse 21, it says, from that time, Jesus began to show his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes and be killed. Mind you, imagine. You was just, imagine. So who you want to be, Bartholomew?
Starting point is 00:14:02 I be Bartholome. Because don't nobody be messing with Bartholomew. Let's say you Bartholomew. You with 11 people, one of them is a traitor. You don't even know that yet. And y'all at Cessaria Philippa in front of all this idol worship and stuff like that. And then Jesus is like, hey, who you say I am?
Starting point is 00:14:16 And you're like, oh, I think he Elijah. That's what you said. Some people say you Elijah. And then you hear Peter like, no, you're the Messiah. And then you sit in here like, oh, my goodness. My rabbi is the Christ. Yeah. My rabbi is the Messiah.
Starting point is 00:14:28 and let's just say you have perceptions and frameworks about what a Messiah is that's still present in your mind that you're going to you're going to overcome overthrow wrong wrong that you're going to set up some earthly kingship that you're going to do something here presently but then god takes you somewhere Jesus takes you somewhere whether that's y'all walking or y'all going to the upper room I don't know and he says oh by the way I'm going to die yeah you're going to be like I don't understand you just said that you're the like the Messiah and then you're telling me that you're going to be killed like I'm confused about that but because you're not Peter you're not going to say that out loud Peter is though and it says and Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him saying far be it
Starting point is 00:15:16 from you Lord this shall never never never happened to you I let me ask you this I think I know what you're about to ask me. I'm going to give you the questions that will lead to the interpretation of the text that I saw. Okay. So when you consider what God has revealed to Peter and when you consider how God has commissioned Peter,
Starting point is 00:15:46 how do you think that's influencing his rebuke of Jesus? That's a good question. When I consider what God has revealed to Peter. And what God has commissioned. One, I think I think it's very obvious that we look in the scriptures that Peter was a leader. Right?
Starting point is 00:16:10 He was a leader even amongst his brothers. And so I think that's one of the reasons why God called him because he was a leader. And I think Peter often, I don't want to assume on the text, right? But I do think that Peter was always trying to lead, always trying to direct, even his Messiah, you know what I said? I think Peter, often shows us that sometimes our natural leadership can get in the way and can make us put our
Starting point is 00:16:38 foot in our mouth even with the Lord. It's like, you're a leader, but I'm God, right? You know what I'm saying? And so I think Peter wasn't being malicious, but I think that when you don't, when you trust in yourself more than you trust in the God who called you, when you trust in your own resources, when you trust in your own leadership ability, when you trust in your own capabilities, you can end up being used by Satan. And so I think this is the reason why what you're about to read next is what Jesus said to him.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Because it's like, Peter, you don't even realize, you might not even realize that you're being used, right? I don't know if I'm getting ahead. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think you're right. I think Jesus has just said, he calls him Peter, which means rock,
Starting point is 00:17:26 on this rock, I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And so there might be a sense in which Peter is getting ahead of himself by trying to prevent what he thinks is the gates of hell prevailing.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Ooh, right? Two, God has just revealed himself as the Christ, as the Messiah. And so there's also, there's this conception of Christ as Messiah that Peter is. still functioning in. Peter does not see Christ as the Messiah of the scriptures. He sees Christ as the Messiah of the misinterpretation of these scriptures. And so he feels like he has to protect Jesus
Starting point is 00:18:07 instead of actually obeying and surrendering to what Jesus says is the will of God. That's good. So then God, it's ironic then that when he's rebuked, it's like, yeah, the gates of hell won't prevail against it, but even his rebuke was hellish because it was demonic. The reason it was from a demonic source is that I shared this in the sermon I did at Passion, which is that one of the first, well, not, yeah, the temptations we see of Christ in the wilderness is Satan coming and saying, if you are the son of God, if you have this identity, then you should turn these stones into bread, meaning you should use your divine power to make your suffering a bit easier. Peter is coming across and communicating the same thing.
Starting point is 00:18:55 If you are the Christ, then you should not suffer. That's what Satan said. And so Satan is low-key influencing Peter's perspectives and Peter's words. And because he is talking to God, God recognizes whose voice is actually coming through Peter's mouth. And so I think... Because the implications of him not suffering is... Not only disobedience to God, but no conquering of Satan, no conquering of death, no conquering of sin. You have no idea what you are actually saying to Jesus.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Yeah, right. If he doesn't suffer, you're going to hell, Peter. Yeah. What do you do it? Can I say something real quick? Don't lose your strength of thought because I'm teaching good. It's right there.
Starting point is 00:19:36 But I think what Peter often shows us is that sometimes our natural, how God has built us can get in the way of God's glory if it's not filtered through him. Explain more. Because Peter was a bold, you know, like truth telling, you know what I'm saying, take action. type of person, right? God wants to use that for his glory. But if it's not filtered and taint, you know, like, you know, God by the Lord, it can get in the way of his glory.
Starting point is 00:20:07 In the same way somebody's compassion. Yeah. You have people that's a little bit too compassionate. Right? And so, like, your overly, like, I don't think you could be overly compassionate, but you could be compassionate in a way that doesn't allow people to repent. Because Satan will use your gifts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Because even when you look at Moses, before Moses meets the bush, Moses is trying to lead and trying to do justice by killing the Egyptian so as to protect the other Hebrew. And you see this premature, ungodly, unrefined, unsanctified way of him acting out the way God built him. But it's when he meets God in the burning bush that that justice is actually clarified and refined. And so I think with Peter, like you're saying, Peter is speaking first.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Peter is leading. Peter thinks he is protecting something and guiding something, but Satan is actually using the thing that God actually has called him to do. Does it make sense? Yeah. Peter was about the action, but the action needed to be molded by the Lord. And it's not only Satanic what he says, but it's also human. Because God says you're not setting your mind on the things of God, but on the things of
Starting point is 00:21:23 man. And I think man, we just always, we talked about it in a podcast about suffering. I don't know if that goes before this one or after this one, but man doesn't like suffering. We think it's a hindrance to glory a lot of times unless we look at the scriptures. And so it makes sense for him to be like, no, you're not going to die. You're the Messiah. You're the king. You're supposed to reign forever. And it's like, no, like the project of God is that that rain comes through. death, not, you know, he's skipping the cross to be exalted. That's good. That's good. If you're anything like us, you care about what you're putting in your body.
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Starting point is 00:23:40 Do you want to stay in this text? Because this is a lot I think we can say about Peter. I mean, sheesh. I'll say this. I think one thing I kind of want to land on a little bit is again, Peter's perspective, for you are not setting your mind on the things of God, but on the things of man. And how we like Peter do the same thing.
Starting point is 00:24:10 You know what I'm saying? And so I think with Peter, he's been with Jesus for three years now. Yeah. He's been walking with the Lord. He most likely went to the synagogues, did all the stuff, but his mind wasn't set on God, like what God wanted and what God said, his mind was set on the things of man. And I think that's a struggle for all of us is to have God's perspective about life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:36 You know what I'm saying? To have God's perspective about pain. To have God's perspective about suffering. To have God's perspective, period. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. One thing I think about when I think about Peter is it's hard for me to think about Peter
Starting point is 00:24:50 and not think about even us as leaders, Christian leaders. Because the text doesn't necessarily say this, but this is me wondering of how much Peter putting his foot in his mouth was his attempt to be that leader. Right? Yeah. Like, because like, you know, for example, when Jesus tells them in the scriptures, I think it's John where he says, you know, the shepherd will be striking all the sheep was scatter, basically predicting that when I die, all of my sheep, all of my disciples, that y'all, y'all, y'all going to. abandon me. And Peter was the first one that said, Jesus, if they all fall away, I'll
Starting point is 00:25:30 never fall away. If they all deny you, I'll never deny you. You know, and when Jesus said, you know, I'm leaving, he's like, why can't I go with you? And then Jesus responds to says, where I'm going, you can't go. And then what Peter says, Jesus, I'll follow you to prison and to death. What text
Starting point is 00:25:46 is that? It is Luke 2233. Jesus foretells Peter's denial Simon Simon behold Satan demanded to have you to have you That he may sift you like wheat but I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail Where is it when Peter actually says that he's not going to deny Jesus? Oh, that's when he says that's when Jesus says that all of you Will fall away from me
Starting point is 00:26:20 Yes, mark 14, 20, and when they had sung a hymn, they went out to the Mount of Olives. And Jesus said to them, you will all fall away. Mind you, this is God in flesh. Yeah. He's not a liar. Right. This isn't like a possibility.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Yeah. You will all fall away for it is written. I will strike the shepherd and the sheaf will be scattered. But after I am raised up, I will go before you to Galilee. Peter said to him, even though they all fall away, they might deny you. Through his homeboys under the bus. Hey, they might not trust you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:05 As for me, I ain't go fall away. I don't know what you, I don't know what you're talking about, God incarnate. And Jesus said to him, truly, I tell you this very night before the rooster crows twice, you will deny me three times. And he said it again, but he said emphatically, I understand what you're saying. But if I must die with you, I'm a die with you. I will not deny you. But I want us to pay attention to the text.
Starting point is 00:27:29 And this is the reason why I said that I think Peter reminds us that sometimes us leaders we be doing the most because we, because it's not only God we're trying to honor. But notice how right after Peter said that emphatically, all the other disciples also repeated what he said. They followed Peter. Yes, we will not deny you. That's good. Right. And so like I think Peter being that leader often put his foot. in his mouth because, you know, maybe he felt the pressure to be a leader amongst the disciples
Starting point is 00:28:00 because he was. Maybe he felt like I had to prove my allegiance, my, you know, my alliance to the Lord. But notice how the scripture literally says not only the Jesus tell, so you have the Messiah telling you this. He told me twice. But he said it is written. Correct. This in the text. He's reminding you. This in the book. He's reminding you of scripture. This is prophecy. And you still saying, nah. You look. Like, man Isaiah, you know what he's talking about? Right. I don't know what text these represents.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Let me see. Do we got a little cross references? D. What's the D? Zechariah. Yeah, Zachariah, I don't know what he's talking about. Yeah, like, he said truly, truly. So you can you can put blank on this.
Starting point is 00:28:41 It is written, Peter. Y'all will scatter. I think first 31 makes me think of Acts, though, when he wouldn't sit with the Gentiles because the Jewish leader showed up and how it said that even Barnabas was led to do the same, how Peter's cowardice
Starting point is 00:29:03 also influenced the other disciples to be cowardly. And so how Peter's pride is leading the disciples to be just as proud. And I think that is an element of leadership that is always kind of, it's a little irritating
Starting point is 00:29:21 to feel responsible for the behavior of other people. Yeah. You know, to know that you kind of set a standard for what is good and what is right and what is true. Yeah. I think we both feel that when it comes to just how we manage everything, whether that's as parents,
Starting point is 00:29:41 whether that's as public figures, whether that's as people who have some type of people be listening to us on a podcast and kind of always being like, how will this serve people? How will this influence the way people see God? People see the text. People see politics.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Even our conversations on our podcast are dictated by that responsibility. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? And it is, in fact, a responsibility. And so I think when people have leadership positions in the church, in the home, in the world, on your job, on your campus,
Starting point is 00:30:14 I do think you always have to be mindful of if if if i can say i'm a die with you and i won't deny you and that goes against what god just told me there's a possibility that my influence will cause people to do the same thing and i don't want to yeah i don't want to do that yeah yeah yeah and i think you know i just wonder how much of peters putting his foot in his mouth saying that he would never deny jesus was his attempt or him him just being afraid to to be human to you know like you're a leader but you're also a fallen human being. And if God is telling you this is going to happen,
Starting point is 00:30:53 it's going to happen, you know what I'm saying? And I think that sometimes us as leaders, we can put so much pressure on ourselves and we can we can overstate our allegiance to Jesus and we can have not a really clear reality about the state of our art, you know what I'm saying, because of it. And so I think that's Peter. And I think we've all been guilty of that.
Starting point is 00:31:15 This is important because, well one let me say one thing and then come back verse 32 kind of reveals god's 32 and 33 reveals god's patience with peter you know because peter has just walked in pride the bible says that god resists the proud and gives grace to the humble and yet even though he is being foolish even though he just led the disciples to do the same foolery he still took him with him to pray and not everybody but him james and john and so the lord is still inviting him into a very intimate space with him, even in light of his immaturity.
Starting point is 00:31:51 That's beautiful, yeah. So I think that's encouraging. But what I was going to say is, I think verse 30 and 31 with Peter, like, or 2931, I'm not going to deny you. I think this is why the Bible says, where is that at? Where it's like, take heed lest you fall or something like that. Yeah. Where it's like, don't ever be so confident
Starting point is 00:32:17 in your own so-called godliness where you feel like it's impossible for you to do that thing. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I will never do that. I think at that point where you start to declare
Starting point is 00:32:32 never over yourself, you're thinking way too highly of your, like you thinking a little to, there is no good thing that dwells in my flesh. There is much possibility in you when it comes to wickedness. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:32:48 It is. That's good. That's good. And when you get to Peter's denial, it actually makes it even worse. Because it's like, not only did you deny the Lord, but he told you this was going to happen. And not only did you deny it, but you kept doing it. Yeah, you did it three times. Yeah, because that's how sin works.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Yeah. So you over here like, I'll never watch porn. And then you watch an image. And then you watch a video and now you subscribe and the stuff. Yeah. That denial. Sin is progressive. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:25 There's a quote from John Owen where he says, sin's goal is the uttermost, meaning it is never supposed to just stop with lust. It's supposed to end in adultery. The uttermost. And so Peter, he denies him once and now sin had like, and then twice. And because we all know it gets easier. Yeah. Like when you don't repent immediately,
Starting point is 00:33:47 that thing gets easier. Yeah. Yeah, because I, and I often want to try to put myself in Peter's shoes and the disciple's shoes because the reality of Jesus dying, and it's kind of how I grew up in the hood. Like, we know, we see shootings every single day, but the reality of somebody dying that's close to you, it's not really a thing until it happens.
Starting point is 00:34:08 And so Jesus is at the courtyard of the high priest, you know, being judged. And he, like, this is really real. now. He's in the scripture tells us he's at a charcoal fire warming his hands and a lady notices him and says, ain't you the one to be running with Jesus? The servant girl. The servant girl. Ain't you the one to be running with Jesus?
Starting point is 00:34:29 And Peter was like, no. That ain't me. I don't know that man. You know what I'm saying? And so like think about the fear. At that time, I think fear took control. You know what I'm saying? And Peter didn't know his heart. And Peter didn't know his own heart.
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Starting point is 00:36:14 or see the link in the show notes. Talk about how we cannot know ourselves. This is the reason why, I don't want to jump ahead, but in, and when Peter is restored. Don't jump ahead. Okay, I won't. I won't. Just talk about the ignorance we can have of our own hearts. Because.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Because, let me prime you. Let me prime you. One of the things I see in a lot of young believers and even on social media, is that over- confidence in yourself. And I think the Lord is kind and he protects his own and his sheep. But there's a lot of times where I see they are going to have to fall before they realize how weak they actually are. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And so I want you to speak to just even as you as a new believer and as an older believer, how you have to be watchful of yourself to guard yourself against that type of stuff. Yeah, because I think the reality is
Starting point is 00:37:20 God does allow us to fall so that we can have a more accurate depiction about the state of our heart. Like, he allows us to fall so that he can, because it's hard for the Lord to use you when you don't see yourself. Ha! And so this is the reason why, when you ask the Lord to reveal himself to you, it's important for you then to ask some Lord.
Starting point is 00:37:47 reveal me, me. Because a lot of people like, and so it's not like God didn't want to use Peter, but he just wanted to use Peter when Peter really saw himself. And I think that's what God is telling us all the time. It's like, I want to use you, but because you don't see yourself, because you have unrealistic expectations about your heart. I really can't use you how I want to use you. And so God is not trying to, you know, abuse us or, you know, be mean to us.
Starting point is 00:38:21 He just wants us to have a more of a reality because here's the thing. When Peter said, if they all deny you, Jesus, I'm rocking with you. Peter wasn't lying. He was just deceived about himself. He was telling the truth. He thought he was. So it wasn't like he's lying. And that's all of us.
Starting point is 00:38:40 We don't be lying. It's just like, God is like, I know you think, I know. know you believe that, but I know you more than you know you. I'm trying to reveal something to you, your heart. Peter, you don't love me like that. And here's here here is the thing. To every temptation, there is a way of escape. Oftentimes the escape comes through warning, correction, conviction, the scriptures. God warned him. that all of y'all are going to fall away. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:19 So it's not as if there was not a way of escape, and the way of escape would have been faith in what God said. You understand what I'm saying? So it ain't like the Lord is just letting him fall. It's like, no, I warned you. Yeah. That warning through word, that warning through people, that warning through dreams was your protection.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Yes. But you thought better. So good. You thought you knew best. And so you denied the protection that I gave you. all of us can remember that. So I think Psalm 1,39, is helpful here. It's a very scary prayer to pray. But we got to pray it. Oh, Lord, you have searched me and known me. You know when I sit down and when I rise up. You discern my thoughts from afar. You search out my path and my lying down and are
Starting point is 00:40:04 acquainted with all my ways. Even before word is on my tongue, behold, oh Lord, you know it all together. Where is it at? Where it's saying, search me and know me and all that type of stuff. Search me, oh God, and know my heart, try me and know my thoughts and see if there be any grievous way in me and lead me in the way everlasting. This prayer scares me often because it is uncomfortable to yield to God searching and exposing you. It's uncomfortable because you know yourself, you might not know yourself like God know you, but you do know that there is probably some stuff in there that you don't want to let go of. There are some ways of thinking that you don't want to relinquish. There's some, there's some stuff in there that make you feel safe,
Starting point is 00:40:54 make you feel comfortable. And you know, if you just decide to pray that prayer that God is going to answer. But here's the good news. When he answers, it's freedom. When he answers is deliverance. When he answers is protection. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm much like, I'm less like Peter and more like Jacob. God got to break my, he got to give me diabetes and do all, give me four kids and, you know, make people's landing me on social, he got to bust me in the hip all the time to break me. Yeah. Because my pride is that dense.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And so what I recognized is that it is good news for God to search and know and expose me so that I'm just freer. Yeah. from the things that I think make me say. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Yeah. And I love that. And I think Peter, Peter is a testament. Like, he is evidence that God wants to use us consistently. But when we just living in this reality, that's not true. It's so hard. It is. It is.
Starting point is 00:41:54 It is. Yeah. Yeah. And I empathize with him because he was scared. I would have been scared, too. Like. Part of me is like, why is you in the courtyard? Why are you able to everybody everybody else scattered and minded their business somewhere else?
Starting point is 00:42:10 Peter's like, I got to stay warm. Yeah, why you, but you chose to go to the courtyard. You went over to the high priest's house for what? Yeah, yeah. To watch? Mm-hmm. And so maybe you thought you could watch and not deny him or something. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:42:24 Yeah. Like he put himself in the position to be tested. Yeah, that is true. And I could imagine the text doesn't say, but he probably just wanted to be with Jesus. You know what I'm saying? just probably wanted to be with Jesus, but forgetting that Jesus literally said you will deny me. And this is the perfect place for you to deny him because somebody might recognize you as the one who used to roll with Jesus.
Starting point is 00:42:47 You know what I'm saying? And so God and his sovereignty all set it up so scriptures can be revealed. Yeah, I think when I studied this text a while back for a talk I had, one of the things that, I don't know, I just, you know, I like to zero in on random parts of text is the rooster crowing. I related it to David after he slept with Bathsheba and how Bathsheba gets pregnant. Like there's a long time between him sleeping with her and Yariah and Nathan. There's time. And when Nathan comes, it's when his conscience is awakened. And I think when you think about denial, denial, denial, we don't know how long that was. Yeah. But there is time before his conscience is awakened. And there is, there is warning in that
Starting point is 00:43:46 and mercy in that. The warning is never think that you can open up a door and you won't eventually walk through it. Right. Like there, there might be, there is temptation in our flesh from the world and from Satan to think that you can say once and you won't say, like you think you can deny the Lord one time and it won't become consecutive. That's what I'm trying to say. But there's also mercy in that the Lord will send a rooster. The Lord will send a Nathan to awaken our conscience so that we can be made aware of our sin, repent and return back to him in fellowship.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Yeah, that's beautiful. And also too, I want to just add on top of what you just said, that even when Jesus first told him, you know, Peter, you will like all of y'all will fall away you would deny me but he didn't immediately fall follows that by saying but i will but afterwards i will return and meet you guys in galilee and so jesus already made provision to come and meet them after they all abandoned him and so like jesus is displaying here that even in our failure that he is still coming to to meet us even when he knows we're going to fail him and deny him you know in the first place i would
Starting point is 00:45:00 want to talk about real quick the end of verse 72 because you probably have people and I've been in this place a lot where it says and Peter remembered is after the rooster crow how Jesus had said to him before the rooster crows twice you will deny me three times let me pause you ever been at church or watching the podcast or listening to a sermon and the Lord pricks your conscience and awakens you to what you did. Yeah. By appealing to God's word that you did hide in your heart so you would not sin against him.
Starting point is 00:45:43 And you respond how he did and he broke down and wept. And wept. Yeah. Where I guess I want, how would you encourage somebody who's in that place where they have denied him three times, metaphorically speaking? Yeah. And he has sent a rooster crow through some kind of means. And now they're breaking down and they're weeping.
Starting point is 00:46:06 How do you move forward? You move forward with repentance, real repentance. I think what I think him breaking down and weeping is a form of repentance. Brokenness. But in that question, for me, I'm a very visual person, right? And so I just wonder. like the eye contact that was made with Jesus like how did Jesus look at him
Starting point is 00:46:37 when he denied him? What did he feel? Did he feel shame? Did he feel guilt? Did he feel remorse? But at the same time, it's like I think to answer your question. Can I say some real quick?
Starting point is 00:46:49 Yeah, yeah, yeah. My cross reference says, and this must be how the Greek reads. And when he had thought about it, he wept. Yeah, when he thought about it. But so, so like you, you, you thought about Jesus' words. Peter, before the ruse to cry, crows two times, three times you would deny me. But also, I think you have to think about Jesus' words in the past as well.
Starting point is 00:47:12 You have to think about Jesus also saying, I will meet you in Galilee. And so even though you let down Jesus, Jesus already let you know that he's not going to leave you. And I think that when we fail Jesus, in those moments, it can be so shaming. We could feel so guilty. we felt like the Lord has, you know, we let the Lord down. But the reality is he hasn't left us. He's still with us. You know, he's still communing with us.
Starting point is 00:47:38 And I think that Peter had to remember that. And I think we all have to remember that. I mean, we all deny, every sin is a denial of Jesus in some way, shape, or form. But God is committed to us. He, and he's never going to get tired of us running to his throne. He's never going to say, is you again? He's never going to say that. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:57 And so I think that we have to. to just remind ourselves that, man, we can continually run to the feet of Jesus. We can continually run to the Lord in our time of need. And he's committed to us. And that's the reason why I love Hebrews so much because it talks about how we have a great high priest who became human to empathize. And so Jesus couldn't experientially empathize with Peter's sin because he was sinless, but he could empathize with his humanity.
Starting point is 00:48:26 And so because he has a God who, who became incarnate, became human like him. It's like, Peter, I know you weak. That's why I'm God. I know you're going to deny me, but I emotionally empathize with you because I'm human. I know what you're going through. And so because of that, I'm never going to leave you.
Starting point is 00:48:42 So I think repentance, responding, not in shame, not in mere remorse, but repentance. Yeah, the difference between worldly and godly grief, you know, because worldly grief will lead you into just pitying yourself. Yes. Oh, I'm so simple. I'm so trash. I'm so terrible. And there's an element to pity that is still self-centered. Yeah. Because you're considering your own nature, your own problems, your own issues, your own internal world, and not looking at the cross, right? Yeah. And the enemy is in that too. You know what I'm saying? He will get you in such a cycle and a spiral of shame to keep you from moving forward. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:25 to keep you from leaning on Jesus and trusting that, like, the blood works. I was even reading Nehemiah the other day, Nehemiah 8, because I was thinking about that text, The Joy of the Lord is My Strength. And I was like, where is that text at? I'm thinking it's in the Psalms. It is in Nehemiah 8, where they are over here weeping as they hear the law being read to them. And he starts to say, one of the priests starts to say, stop crying.
Starting point is 00:49:48 The joy of the Lord is your strength, meaning there are time, there's a time to cry, there's a time to week and there's a time to wipe your tears and move forward. Why? Because he came, he died, he rose. There is joy to be had in your repentance. Even the ability to repent is a grace that Jesus purchased. That's good. You know what I'm saying. And so I'm not saying, don't cry. Don't be broken. That's not what I'm saying. Don't stay there. Because the reality is remorse and repentance are not the same thing. Correct. Right. And I think that's, I think ultimately that's what you're saying. And I think a lot of times people think remorse because if you like self-flagellation yeah let me beat up myself to prove it's like you're still trying to justify yourself because here's the because here's the thing like if you compare
Starting point is 00:50:30 peter with judas right and we're going to talk about restoration and stuff like that right but like peter was remorseful after he did not god but judas was also remorseful after he you know betrayed jesus for the 40 pieces of silver to the point where it says that he felt so bad that he tried to give the money back. But because he was merely remorseful and not, and notice how I said that Judas was ashamed or felt guilty because he betrayed an innocent man. It did not say that he felt guilty for portraying his savior. Because Judas did not recognize Jesus as a savior, all he had was remorse. But because Jesus wasn't his savior, repentance was not in him. And so he felt the, he felt the guilt. He felt the shame. He felt the remorse. But that remorse then calls him
Starting point is 00:51:18 to turn and to run to Jesus. And I think that's the difference between repentance. Repentance is an action. Remorse is a feeling that just kind of leaves you in your feelings, leaves you in your shame, you know? And I think God wants repentance, not just merely remorse. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Psalm 53 is a very good framework for that. Now they exchange bare bits for Jesus. Jesus goes to the cross, dies for sin. it comes to propitiation so that God will be the just and justifier of all those who have faith in Jesus Christ dies, raised from the dead, then what happened?
Starting point is 00:51:58 He came back and appeared to his disciples. Yeah, I love the story of Peter. I love the story of Peter. I love the last chapter in John 21. So Jesus appears to the disciples
Starting point is 00:52:12 a number of times. But the third time that he appears to disciple at the Sea of Tiberius is when he restores Peter. And so I think a lot of times we can focus on Peter's failure. We can focus on Peter's, you know, putting his foot in his mouth. But God had a lot of grace towards Peter. And I think God wants to display that he wants to have that same grace towards us. And he wants us to have grace for Peter, too, because we're all him. And the third time, it says John 21. What verse?
Starting point is 00:52:43 Starting at the first verse. It says, after this, Jesus revealed himself. again to the disciples at the Sea of Tiberius and he revealed himself in this way Simon Peter called twin Nathaniel of Cana and Galilee and the sons of Zebony and two others of the disciples were together Simon Peter said to them I am going fishing they said to him we will go with you so they went out and got into the boat but that night they caught nothing I love I love sound familiar it sounds it sounds really familiar I love so one I want to just say this I've heard people refer to this text and criticize the disciples. And I think it's kind of unfair.
Starting point is 00:53:22 I think I mentioned this to you one day. Because one, it says after this, because before this, the disciples, they are in Jerusalem for eight days for the Feast of Unleavened Bread. While in Jerusalem, Jesus tells them to go to Galilee and he will meet them there. And so sometimes people read this text and say, the disciples were supposed to go to Galilee, but they went back to their old life as fishermen. and start doing what they would do what they did before God called them to ministry. And I think that's unfair for a couple of reasons. One, I think it's unfair because the Sea of Tiberius is in Galilee. Tiberius is one of the main cities on Galilee.
Starting point is 00:54:01 And they named the people in that area named it the Sea of Tiberius because the great Roman emperor named was Tiberius. So the people in that land named it the Sea of Tiberius. So I say that to say they were where they were supposed to go. They went to Galilee after Jerusalem. They didn't go somewhere else. But I also think that them going back fishing, the reality is they did go back and start doing the thing
Starting point is 00:54:24 that they used to do before God called it, ministry. But I think this shows us that they're just being human. Because the reality is like when we don't feel God, when we don't sense God, when we don't sense his nearness, sense his close to this ministry for the Lord does get harder. And so what I'm not saying is that Peter right here and the disciples are sinless, because I think what they're dealing with
Starting point is 00:54:48 is a thing called unbelief, right? But I don't think that they're being extremely rebellious or disobedient. I think they're just being human. We all kind of go back to doing the things that we did before we were doing ministry, right? And so it doesn't necessarily have to mean sinful things. But I also want to just point out one thing, too.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Notice how it says, Peter says, I am going fishing, and they said, we will go with you. They're not doing ministry right here, but Peter is still leading. Right. And so I love that because it just shows us that as leaders, people are going to follow us wherever we go. This is the reason why we got to remember to follow Jesus. That's good.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Right. And so, yeah, and so they follow him. And then first four says, just as day was breaking, Jesus stood on the shore, yet the disciples did not know it was Jesus. Stuff like that is scary to me. I don't know. It's just like, I just want to us. to imagine, like, we in Galilee, first of all, our Savior just died. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Okay? He was crucified on a Roman cross. We know what happens to people when that happens. Then they put this man in the cave and then put the thing over him. And then, you know, had the little Roman soldiers outside make sure that nobody opens it. And then we're like, okay, cool, we're sad. We're going to go fishing. And then you fishing in Galilee and he right there.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Yeah. And I just want to see this. Absolutely. scary? I mean, they don't recognize them. They don't, they don't recognize. I would be like, huh? What? Yeah, yeah. You just gonna pop up on me like that? You're just gonna pop up. And I, and I also to want to just say like, these, these men weren't, wasn't used to following
Starting point is 00:56:32 an invisible God like we were. Like, like, all they knew was following God in the flesh. Okay. And so this is extremely new to them. Extremely fresh to them. We're used to serving an invisible God. All they knew is serving God in the flesh. They walked. You mean when he was in before he was in a glorified state? Yeah, before, yeah. Like, like, they walked with God.
Starting point is 00:56:58 And so God being not with him is a very new and fresh and scary and confusing thing. I can just imagine. You know what I'm saying? And so like, yeah. And so now he appears on the shore. And like the reason why they didn't recognize him, as Paul tells us that, you know, our glorify bodies will not look the same. And so Jesus is standing on the shore with a body that it's not made for earth, but made for glory.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Interesting. And so that's the reason why they didn't recognize him. And so, like, even when we read in the story, we're going to realize they didn't recognize him when they, like, even when they got to him, they still kind of didn't, it didn't look like Jesus. But they knew it was Jesus. And so what was at? verse four verse four just as day was breaking jesus stood on the shore yet the disciples did not know it was jesus jesus said to them children do you have any fish right i think in the greek that children there is translated to young men so he's not necessarily called him children you said young man do you have any
Starting point is 00:58:03 fish they answered him he said to them cast a net on the side of the boat and you will find some so they cast it same thing and now they were not able to haul it in because of the quantity of fish I love how like Jesus is pulling on their memory right? And I you know I taught this not too long ago
Starting point is 00:58:23 and I love this is because one thing I think it shows us that a lot of times that the Lord wants to draw us back to himself by reminding us of the day that he first called us because the first time they caught a boat load of fish that's the day they were called the ministry.
Starting point is 00:58:41 And so here these men men have abandoned Jesus, have walked away from Jesus. And it says that they fished all night, right? But as day was approaching, Jesus stood on the shore. We were remiss to think that this is not symbolic, that the day and the night is not symbolic. It often reminds us that our works without Jesus are dark and ineffective, but blessed it be to God that he meets us in the morning.
Starting point is 00:59:07 That's good. Right? So he meets us, he meets them. And then what he does is he tells them to, do something that they did when they was first called to ministry. He allowed him to catch fish and what happens? Their memory is immediately triggered. And so then what happens? I love the next verse. Verse seven, that disciple whom Jesus loved referring to John said, therefore to Peter, it is the Lord. So notice how Jesus stood on the shore. They didn't recognize that it was Jesus. But as soon as Jesus
Starting point is 00:59:39 told them to cast in the in the water and they caught the fish, John headed an immediate reverend. It's the Lord. Right? And so I think what this shows us that God often wants to remind us of the day he called us in our failure. And I want to add Revelation
Starting point is 00:59:54 too, because I just came to my mind, where verse four and five says, but I have this against you that you have abandoned the love you had at first. Remember, therefore, from where you have fallen, repent and do the works you did at first. Where it's like in the calling
Starting point is 01:00:11 there was a love and a zeal and an excitement and a joy and a delight in the Lord that showed up in what you did. You're reading all night. You're fellowshiping all the time. You're fighting sin. You're guarding yourself. And I think the enemy and our flesh can make us feel like as we mature, we should do something else. And it's like, no, what you was doing at first is the thing that was like maintaining your love and your affections.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Yeah. You know, this is talking about all of the disciples. but I think it's beautiful for Peter because Peter is the one who denied him and I think Jesus allowing them to not just catch fish because the reason why they were fishing at night is because in their day, even in our day
Starting point is 01:00:57 fishermen will fish at night because they would sell their fish to the markets in the morning and so he allows them to catch all of this fish proven to Peter that even though you deny me I'm still your provider. Not only am I going to give you this fish but I'm going to give you a over for an abundance of fish, right?
Starting point is 01:01:12 And so I think God is showing Peter that even though you deny me, I'm still committed to you, Peter. I'm still committed to being your provider, giving you more than enough for me. Do you see anything in the text, but? I'm curious why it says why they counted the fish, but I'm letting you talk. So, no.
Starting point is 01:01:34 So, like, throughout history, people have debated about this hunting. 53 fish. Yeah, I mean, that's interesting. Yeah, so... Numbers are not random in scripture. So numbers is not random. Sometimes. Even when, even when, you know, Jesus turned, the bread into fish or whatever, multifiled, it said it was about a 5,000 people there.
Starting point is 01:01:56 But it wasn't 5,000. It was about a 5th. So this gives a particular number that, throughout history, people have debated. So a couple of the debates that people have said in the past is that it was, it was known that Israel believed that it was 153 nations outside of Israel. And so when the Bible tells them to therefore go make disciples of men, this is Jesus allowing them to catch 153 fish to say, I didn't call you to be fishers of men, but I've called you
Starting point is 01:02:29 to be fishers. I mean, I didn't call you be fishers of fish. I've called you be fishers of men. And so they believe that the 153 is symbolic in that way. I've heard other arguments of people saying that it was 153. different type of species in the Sea of Galilee. And so, but I honestly think that it was normal for them to count fish because that's what fishermen did.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Like, practical. It's very practical because the scripture doesn't tell us why, you know, it says they caught 153 fish, but we do know that it is a practical thing for fishermen to catch their fish at night, especially people who fish for trade because they sold their fish to the market. in the morning. And so most biblical scholars believe it was just them counting the fish because that's what they were supposed to do. Now, if the Lord has some deeper meaning, maybe we'll find out in glory, but the scripture literally just doesn't tell us. Yeah, I'm sure you, I think it's a, it's a really random observation. But, you know, just even in this conversation
Starting point is 01:03:35 about, you know, Peter has denied the Lord. Peter has been broken and wept. Peter has, I think they're kind of in this standstill. Like, what do we do now? Where do we go? What's going on? How when God shows up, he makes them breakfast. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:03:56 But before we get that, can I say one thing? Sure. Like, I want to say when John said, the disciple whom Jesus left for a love said, Peter, it is the Lord. When Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he put on his outer garment for he was stripped for work and threw himself into the sea, verse seven says, right? And I think that this is beautiful because this is Peter still keeping that same energy. Correct. He's still the same impulsive Peter. The reason why he was stripped for work is because they would take off their outer
Starting point is 01:04:26 garments when they were fish because it was hot. They couldn't move in the boat. And he thought it would be undignifying to jump in the water, you know, with his undergarments on to approach his savior. So he put on his outer garments. And instead of waiting for the boat to get to the shore, they were on the way to Jesus. This dude jumps in the water. And it just reminds me what I just said about Judas. Because when Judas felt remorse, he ran to a noose and made suicide as savior. You could say what you want to say about Peter's denial. But after his, after his failure, Who did he run to? He ran to his Savior. And so I think it just makes us access. Like when we fail, Jesus, who do we run to? Do we run to? Do we run to shame? Do we run to porn? Or do we run to our Savior? You know what I'm saying? And so Peter ran to Jesus. He didn't run away from him, which is encouraging. Yeah, one of the things that has always ministered to me, a very small observation, which you know about, is that when Jesus was denied by Peter, it was always.
Starting point is 01:05:31 over a fire. And then before Peter is restored to ministry, God makes a fire. Yeah. And so even as like, I just imagine him smelling the charcoal and this being a familiar experience, but an altogether different experience. Can you walk us through the whole, do you love me? Yes, I love you. Do you love me?
Starting point is 01:05:55 You know I love you. Do you love me? I told you I love you. Yeah. Yeah. Father. when Peter is restored, it says, verse 15, it says, when they had finished having breakfast after Jesus invites them into a meal, Jesus said to Simon Peter, Simon, son of John, do you love me?
Starting point is 01:06:14 More than these. And he said, he said to him, yes, Lord, you know that I love you. He said to him, feed my lambs. He said to him a second time, Simon, son of John, do you love me? He said to him, yes, Lord, you know that I love you. He said to him, tend to my sheep. He said to him a third time, Simon, son of John, do you love me? Peter was grieved because he said to him a third time, do you love me? And he said to him, Lord, you know everything. You know that I love you. Jesus said to him, feed my sheep.
Starting point is 01:06:44 And I love this part right here because I think these are the words that actually restores Peter in his denial of Jesus. And so, one, I love that Peter denied Jesus three times. And then Jesus gives him three times. to kind of confess his love. Got it. Like every time, for every denial, I'm giving you a chance to,
Starting point is 01:07:07 you know, prove your love for me. And so I think that's interesting. But also, too, when it says Simon, Peter, Simon, son of John, do you love me? When I studied this passage, I studied the Greek language. And oftentimes in the Greek language, you know, they use different pronunciations to describe the same word. So, for example, like, if I say I love hamburgers
Starting point is 01:07:30 and I love my wife. People in English, in the English language, they know I'm saying I love my wife more than I love hamburgers. I said, I do to you. I didn't say I do-do to hamburgers, right? Or do-do to hamburgers. I do to ham. You know what I'm trying to say.
Starting point is 01:07:45 But here, you know what I'm saying? When they say love, they often use love a different pronunciation to describe what love that they're talking about. So when Jesus says, Simon Peter, do you love me? The word there in the coinet Greek is agape. Mm-hmm. He says, do you love me above all else? Do you have agape love for me?
Starting point is 01:08:04 I love how he says, do you love me more than these, referring to the other disciples whom he said, if they all fall away, Lord, I'll never fall away. And then when Peter says, yes, Lord, you know that I love you. He responds with the word love, but it's a different pronunciation. It's the word philia. And so philia is derived from the word, it describes like a brotherly or friendship type love. Philadelphia. Philadelphia, the city of brotherly love. And so notice how Jesus says, do you have agape love for me, Peter?
Starting point is 01:08:34 And then Peter responds and says, yes, Lord, I love you like a friend. I love you like a brother. And I think this is encouraging because for the first time we see Peter, it's not overstating his allegiance to Jesus. He's not saying, I love you more than anything. He's not saying, I love you, you know, more than life itself. I'll die with you. He has a more, like an actual reality about the state of his own heart, right? And I think it kind of goes back to what we were saying earlier, is that God,
Starting point is 01:08:59 I can't use us when we don't know ourselves. You know what I'm saying? And so then he says, 10 to my sheep. No, he says, feed my lambs. And I think this is just God saying that, Peter, you don't love me like you think you love me, but because you love me, I still use you.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Correct. Right. And the thing that I love about the way the Lord loves us is our love not matching Jesus never makes him insecure. Like it might make you your spouse insecure. when your love doesn't match but her love doesn't match you or vice versa
Starting point is 01:09:34 but God knows that Peter doesn't have a gape love for him like he has a gape love for him but he's like but because you do love me Peter I still can use you so feed my lambs and then he says a second time he says Simon son of John do you love me and then he says do you agape me
Starting point is 01:09:53 do you love me above all else do you have the most supreme love for me and then Peter says I love you like a friend I love you like a brother. Then he says, tend to my sheep. And then the third time, something interesting happened in the text when I was studying this, the third time Jesus says, Simon, son of John, do you love me? And then this time, for the first time, Jesus' language changed, he says, do you feelie of me?
Starting point is 01:10:17 But the second time, Jesus, the third time, Jesus says, do you love me like a friend? Do you love me like a brother? And then Peter says, yes, I love you like a friend. I love you like a brother. And I think that's just Jesus showing us that he's always. willing to come down and meet us where we are. That's good. You know?
Starting point is 01:10:31 And I think Peter, like, and I think that's the gospel. You know what I'm saying? I think in Peter's restoration, he put his foot in his mouth. He, he denied Jesus three times, but Peter did love Jesus.
Starting point is 01:10:45 And I think that in our denial, God knows that we love him. You know what I'm saying? In our failures, God knows that we love him. I think that God just wants us to have a more reality about, about our sin.
Starting point is 01:10:56 And I think now when we, and I love that this is the last book of John, John 21, because when we turn this page, we immediately get to the book of Acts and we see a new Peter. Yeah, we do. We see a Peter rebuking, Anonis, and Safari, calling down the Holy Spirit in Acts chapter 2. We see Peter being bold because he restored him, you know what I'm saying? And I just love the fact that Peter was restored in this way because his story wasn't over after his failure. Yeah, and I think even verse 18, and 19, particularly 19, is extremely encouraging because, again, what kind of precipitated his
Starting point is 01:11:37 denial was this strong, confident vow that he would die for him. And when the opportunity arose where he would endure some type of suffering or persecution because of his friendship and relation to Christ, he denied him because he was afraid to die, actually. Yeah. But now in verse 19 or 18, God's says when you were young, you used to dress yourself and walk wherever you wanted, but when you are old, you will stretch out your hands and another will dress you and carry you where you do not want to go. Verse 19, this he said to show by what kind of death he was to glorify God. And so even though he made a vow that he was not ready to actually execute, at one point he will be. You know, his love and his faith and his security in God will actually position him to die for Christ one day. And I think I've always looked at that text like, man, like where you are now, the failures you've had, the denials you've had do not have to govern how you end. Yeah. You can actually end and endure in a way that far exceeds where you are now.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Absolutely, absolutely. Because what we see is Peter fully restored after his denial. And when we look up the word restoration, to restore something is to restore something back to its original state. That's the Webster definition. But I think Jesus is showing us that God's definition of restoration is much greater is to restore something back to a state that's greater than his former self. And so this is the reason why Peter is used so greatly in Acts is because he was restored in his failure. And so like he's bolder now.
Starting point is 01:13:16 He has more courage now. He has more power now. God is using him to establish the church now because he was able to be restored after his failure. And so a restored saint is a powerful saint. That's good. Yeah. Anything else? That's about it.
Starting point is 01:13:33 We all like Peter. We really all are like this dude. And the goal is that we all be like Jesus. All right, guys. Peace. Bye. With the Perrys is produced by the Perrys with support from Amanda Reed and Channing McBride, video recording and audio production by Matthew Baxter and Xavier Fairley,
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