With The Perrys - Questions That Need Answers: Kanye West and Mental Health

Episode Date: February 13, 2023

This one's about Kanye and how Christians can counter culture to help wake up Mr. West. Previous Episode Reference: The Inhumanity of Celebrity (Season 5: Episode 3) Subscribe to the Perrys' newslet...ter: https://withtheperrys.myflodesk.com/zhfus4jx1s Join Preston's discipleship community for men: https://www.patreon.com/PrestonPerry/membership To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal: https://paypal.me/withtheperrys Shop BOLD Apparel: boldapparel.shop Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Saints and Nates. What up with y'all? So a couple seasons ago, we did a conversation or topic called Questions That Need Answers. And I think we talked about aliens and we talked about dinosaurs. Dinosaurs. Just weird stuff. And so Preston brought up an idea that we wanted to turn into another question that questions that need answers episode, which is the subject of Kanye West. And mental health.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Okay. So I'm going to let you just, you know. The question that I have is, why don't we treat this man like he a human being? Okay. What makes you feel that that? that's not happening. Okay, so we know Kanye West believes that he's God gives to like creation. Like he thinks it's like the Father, the Holy Spirit, the Jesus and in him.
Starting point is 00:00:47 We know that, right? We know we know he feels this way. And so like I'm not negating the fact that he's narcissistic or could be a narcissist and loves like people talking about him. But I do think that at times I've kind of seen Kanye West put out. things out there that might be a crop of help that I feel like the world doesn't pay attention to just because he's famous. And I think that if Kanye West was our cousin or our brother, we will be more empathetic to the hurtful things that he says. And so I'm not saying that we should just totally,
Starting point is 00:01:22 you know, excuse what he says. But I don't think that we, when we consider him in the headlines, like his mental illness is not talked about enough. And I think that's problematic. I think it's some of what we discussed in the podcast in humanity of celebrity, which is how celebrity kind of dehumanizes people. Absolutely. Because when you brought this up a week ago, I was saying that, you know, it seems as if Kanye is no longer a human but a spectacle.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Yeah, right. He's become the human being that has things or traits about himself that make him unique and make him different and make him stand out. but it's it's it's kind of exposed how we just don't look at people who are different from us as if they are like us yeah you know yeah and so but i think practically speaking it's not like any of us are in proximity to him to say hey bro take your meds right it's not like any of us are in proximity to him where we like you know give us your phone like stop but what at the very least we can pray yeah yeah yeah and And I think the world, I don't really expect the world to be anything other than the world,
Starting point is 00:02:38 but I think for Christians, I think it's important for us to make sure that we don't treat people the way the world treats people. Because I think the world has like this fake love and this fake remorse when something happens to a celebrity. But then the whole time, but they don't really treat them, they don't really humanize them, you know, while they're alive. You know, I mean, they put a camera in their face. I mean, you see when a rapper dies. I mean, they're on people's phones, you know what I'm saying? three seconds and then it's on the news and so I think that for us even though the guy might be a
Starting point is 00:03:10 narcissist even though he might be full of himself he's still a human being who has openly expressed that he has a mental illness and so how do we attempt to love him well being that we don't know him and I think that is to pray you know I'm saying not to like cancel him or you know I think that well you think there I think there is we had a conversation about this before I I think there's always room for canceling insofar as canceling is a function of holding someone accountable. So not canceling like, oh, I'm never going to listen to college dropout ever again in my life. I'm not saying that. But I think him, that's not love.
Starting point is 00:03:48 You know, him losing deals is a way of holding him accountable to his speech. Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, you're right. I think he should lose those deals. I was actually glad. I was like, Lord, I hope this draws him to repentance faster. I guess we would have to define what we made by cancel. Yeah. To your point.
Starting point is 00:04:05 I'm saying like being so disappointing everything that he does and not considering the fact that the dude has a whole mental illness. Because if he was our family member, we'd be like, forgive my brother. He got a mental illness. But because he's Kanye who created college dropout, we're like, oh, you're letting black people down. It's like, no, the dude has a whole mental illness. And we have to just consistently remember that. In closing, you're saying, Kanye has a mental illness, but he is a human being should be treated and consistent. considered and thought of as a human being and treated with the same dignity and respect that is owed to a human being and that because we are not in proximity to Kanye, the best and most, I guess, fruitful way to serve him is to pray for him. Yeah, pray for him. If that's the case, you should pray
Starting point is 00:04:48 for him. All right now. Dear Lord, God, we thank you for this podcast. We thank you, God, for even landing on our heart to even talk about Kanye. I know there's a lot of talk about Kanye. all the time. But if we're honest, all of us, even myself, how many times do we stop and pray for the dude? It's so hard to be that famous with a mental illness and you're full of yourself. And so, God, I think that Kanye West needs what we all need. And that's the humility that only your Holy Spirit brings. That is your love, that is your validation, that is for him to truly believe that he was created in the image of God and that he ultimately has to find his value and acceptance in you. And so God, I pray that when the world tries to make, yeah, just a circus act
Starting point is 00:05:45 out of everything that he does, that he is surrounding around people that would point him to the cross, I pray God against anything that the enemy might try to throw in. Thoughts of suicide, thoughts of, yeah, harming himself, Lord. And I just pray, God, that you would lay it on more believers' hearts to not just watch Kanye, but to pray for Kanye. And so I thank you for your grace and mercy, your love and favor. In Jesus' name, amen. Amen. And it is so.
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Starting point is 00:06:46 Thank y'all for listening. Now go with God.

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