Witnessed: Devil in the Ditch - Borderlands | 3. Just Say No

Episode Date: September 14, 2021

Beloved local sheriff Rick  Thompson takes on a starring role as an anti-narcotics crusader in the Reagan Administration's War on Drugs. Want the full story? Unlock all episodes of Witnessed, ad-f...ree, right now by subscribing to The Binge. Plus, get binge access to brand new stories dropping on the first of every month — that’s all episodes, all at once, all ad-free. Just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the Witnessed show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you listen. A Campside Media & Sony Music Entertainment production. Find out more about The Binge and other podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us @sonypodcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 El museo Picasso Málaga presenta Picasso es cultor, al igual que en el resto de su creación, la escultura de Picasso se distingue por innovar en el uso de técnicas y materiales poco ortodoxos. Puedes imaginar cuáles y como, descubrela. There's a mythic quality to small town America. When we say those words now, it calls to mind a particular moment in history. The 1950s in early 1960s. You know, at that point in time, Marfa, it was kind of innocent, I would think. And a particular look. Neat longs, white picket fences, big oak trees. You went to school and you played with your friends and went to the football game every Friday night. You know, you knew you wanted to grow up and be in the band and those kind of things.
Starting point is 00:01:13 When Martha Stafford talks about her childhood in the town of Marfa in far west Texas, I can see it. No one really walked in Marfa. Everybody drove, I think. You know, and then kids on their bicycles. Usually the youth of Marfa you spent the majority of your free time riding around. There's a bustling main street, mom and pop stores, ice cream, soda fountains, barbershops, big, fast, luxurious cars parked out front, tail fins, bench seats, V8 engines.
Starting point is 00:01:49 At the four-way stop in the center of town, you would turn right and go down to where Colomos was. It was the only convenient store we had for a long time. And turn around, turn left, drive up past the high school, then turned left again, down by the swimming pool over the railroad tracks. When you drove through town, you knew who tended every shot. Every face passing by was familiar. It was safe, friendly, wholesome. And of course at Marfa you knew everybody. If there was anybody in town that didn't live there, they just stood out like a sore thumb.
Starting point is 00:02:29 You know, you knew every face in the community. Law and order mattered there. You respected it. And at its heart in the center of town was an extravagant stone building, the Presidio County Courthouse. You dressed up if you had to go to the courthouse to do something? That was definitely comb your hair, put on lipstick, you didn't get to walk in their barefoot. You can see the courthouse from just about anywhere in Marfa, and from the stretches of grassland beyond. You know, really the courthouse, it was... Oh, you know, it sounds so corny, but it was. It was the symbol of justice and right and wrong. And of course, back then, you really believed the police were the good guys. And if you were in jail, that meant you were a bad guy.
Starting point is 00:03:24 You know, it was so black and white. But listen to Martha for a bit longer, and those black and white images start to look a bit gray. She's not describing a perfect place at all. Those images of the peaceful happy town, they're a facade. This was, after all, the far west Texas of the Smuggler Robert Chambers. And what Martha Stafford started to catch glimpses of, even as a child, was that harsher land, and a truth much darker than the stories people told themselves.
Starting point is 00:04:02 From campside media, the first season of Witnessed, this is Borderlands. I'm Rob Demiko. Chapter 3. Just Say No. Martha has been a teacher for most of her life. Her mom was a teacher. Her dad, he wasn't a teacher, but he made his living from writing and educating. He ran the local newspaper, The Big Ben Sentinel.
Starting point is 00:04:36 He was hired to be the managing editor and like publisher, but then he never really got paid. You know, like a paycheck, it would be what was left after you paid the employees kind of deal. Her parents had a modest home on the South edge of town. Surrounded mostly by fields in a small RV park, just a couple minutes drive from the courthouse.
Starting point is 00:05:01 And we always had other people living with us for some reason it seems like, you know, it was either exchange students or people that had broken down on the road and dad brought them home. It was a busy house. Martha's house was welcoming of people from different backgrounds and walks of life, but most of the big Ben region wasn't like that at all. And as she got older, Martha started to see the reality more clearly. The Big Ben region was really two places, one Anglo, and relatively prosperous, and one Mexican American, and mostly poor and neglected.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Up until the mid-60s, the schools in the area were segregated. You might hear that and think, no, that's wrong. Brown v. Board of Education was 1954. The Supreme Court declared school segregation unconstitutional. But what the Supreme Court said, and what happened on the ground in places like far west Texas, was very different. Even after Brown, Mexican-American elementary kids in Marfo were taught in a separate schoolhouse. When Marfo was segregated, you had Marfo Elementary, and then you had the Blackwell School. And in St. Mary's, there was actually the private Catholic School, but everybody came together for high school.
Starting point is 00:06:22 And I guess it was probably even maybe late 60s before we had Hispanics, you know, from town. And when schools did finally integrate, it was done slowly. And so schools in North America were integrated one class year at a time. That's Enrique Madrid, a historian who's lived in the Big Bend region his whole life. So it took, what, 16 years to integrate all the ice up to the high school, you know, it was just my legnant dawdling. It was deliberate slowing of integration. The preservation of that power and balance. It had deep roots. It wasn't going to go away with desegregation, or even Mexican Americans
Starting point is 00:07:15 getting elected to political office. It hasn't really changed since the end of the war with Mexico. It's always been a subjugated, subordinated land. Our lives with Anglos is always separated and our work lives. It's always a work career employer, a relationship. In the big bend in the 1970s, this wasn't hard to see, and at the very top of the power hierarchy were the Anglo-Ranchors. They were white, non-Hispanic, and often the descendants of the men and women who had colonized that area in the 19th century, driving out the Native Americans and Mexicans who had long lived there. At that time, you know, the majority were, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:07 fairly wealthy ranchers, Anglo ranchers at Mexican and Mexican-American workers who depended on for work, low pay the peasant workers. The ranchers made sure they were indispensable. Every shopkeeper and bartender and mechanic in the area relied on their cash to make ends meet. And those ranchers kept a tight grip on the power their wealth gave them. Ranching is an meritocracy. It requires huge amounts of land, dozens of animals, workers, and those massive kingdoms of cattle are passed down in families for
Starting point is 00:08:45 generations. Bright, ambitious kids from less affluent backgrounds, they can't really scrap and hustle their way into a cattle ranch. So the Anglo ranchers had an exclusive club, and they could set the rules for everyone else. Did they treat these Mexican-American workers well? No. No. And there was even a class division among the Anglo-Americans.
Starting point is 00:09:15 There was one class, the ranchers. Of course, they were the upper class, and then the townspeople. Martha, whose parents were middle-class townspeople, not cattlebarans, she understood the dominance of the Angola ranchers too. They were seeing kind of as our aristocracy. You know, they were the ones that had new vehicles. And they just, they just wielded more power in the community.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Every county commissioner or school board member, they were all ranchers. As I investigated the stories of Robert Chambers and Rick Thompson, this power imbalance across the Big Bend region was visible at the roots of so much of what would come later. The drug smuggler, Robert Chambers, he came from an old Anglo-ranching family. They weren't rich, but he had that same attitude. I make
Starting point is 00:10:11 my own rules. But it was actually the story of Sheriff Thompson, where you could see those Anglo-powered dynamics even more clearly. Back in the early 70s, when Rick Thompson was just a young deputy, the sheriff from Presidio County was a guy named Hank Hamilton. He was old school, courtly, but in some ways a bit of a strange Texas sheriff, because he didn't like carrying a gun. And his term came to a premature end on April 27th, 1973, when he went out to check on a car parked out in a pasture and was shot dead. When he was killed and a huge crowd gathered at the courthouse and I wanted to go and my mom wouldn't let me she was convinced they were gonna break the man out of jail
Starting point is 00:10:56 and you know, linchem or something on the courthouse square. So it was like, no, you stay away. The Presidio County commissioners had to appoint an interim sheriff to replace Hamilton, and they settled on a well-liked former Marine named Rick Thompson. At first, Rick was just the interim sheriff. And in 1976, he had to run in an election for the permanent position.
Starting point is 00:11:20 And that election was a big deal, because a county sheriff in Texas many of his powers are basically unchecked. The Anglo-Ranching families had a lot of influence over who became Presidio County Sheriff and it was important to them. They wanted someone who would be sympathetic to their interests. Someone who would doggedly chase down the low-wage worker stealing cars or equipment, but not bring down the hammer on a ranching kid who happened to make a mistake.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Anglo Rick Thompson was their guy. He seemed to know what the real rules were. He respected the rancher's power. But he had a formidable opponent, the Marfa Police Chief, a guy named Mani Rodriguez, who was backed by the growing political power of the Mexican-American community. The campaign was bitter, divisive, and very, very close. Rodriguez was up when the ballots were first tallied, the lead narrowed on a recount.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Then Thompson sued, it went to the courts, and Thompson was declared the winner by just four votes. That election, it didn't exactly give Thompson a sweeping mandate. In fact, he was considered illegitimate by plenty of Presidio County voters, distrusted by many in the Mexican-American community. But Thompson proved to be a skilled politician. He made alliances, turned on the charm, and his subsequent elections, they weren't close at all.
Starting point is 00:12:56 He did a good job of connecting with people. You know, I don't know if it was the good old boy, part of them, you know, but when you sit down, you felt like he really was interested in what you had to say. As the years passed, townsfolk like Martha couldn't help noticing that Rick Thompson, the sheriff who had to sue to win his first election, he was growing in stature, becoming a kind of ideal of the Texas lawman. Strict, but fair.
Starting point is 00:13:25 You know, Rick would tip his hat, I'm Arthur, you just know that's the sheriff. You know, and you better behave or you'll be in trouble. And of course, you know, this was a time too when if you were caught at a party or whatever, he just took you home. Or the deputy just took you home and knocked on the door and you knew you were gonna die because your dad is now standing at the door and the sheriff is handing you off to him. You know, it was terrifying.
Starting point is 00:13:58 And he looked the part two. You'd see him hanging out for coffee with the locals at church every Sunday, two stepping at dances with his wife. You know, he just seemed bigger than life like he should be on TV. You know, big tall, he was handsome, and just, you know, wore the starched white shirt, you know, with his badge, and just so...
Starting point is 00:14:23 Texas. So you just felt safe for having somebody like that as your sheriff. And Rick Thompson seemed to have come along at exactly the right time, because Marfa needed a hero. Its star was fading. By the mid-70s, Marfa was dying as a community. The ranchers, they didn't have the money they had had before.
Starting point is 00:14:47 And so that impacted the entire community. They weren't shopping in town, they weren't buying a new car every year, those kind of things. I graduated from high school in 81. And at that time, school in 81. And at that time, you had to leave, Marfa, you know, if you weren't inheriting your parents' business, you had to leave in order to get a degree or find work elsewhere. But then here was Rick Thompson, a Texas icon, 6'4", 210 pounds, a thick water chewed into back on his cheek. Maybe Marfa was drawing up, maybe the big Ben region didn't look so prosperous anymore. But here is a local son you could be proud of. Backed by the Big Ben's ranch in community, he was going places.
Starting point is 00:15:38 He would see as an up and coming political representative who understood their culture and would do right by them. That's local journalist Jack McNamara. He was talked about him on the political class as being a possible candidate for the state legislature and that could have occurred. Rick Thompson was on his way to something even bigger than being the star cop in a rural county. He was ready for some wider attention.
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Starting point is 00:17:53 I swear to God, I'm not the cops. Let's go get the good cry. I know what the deal is, or cocaine. This is from a two-hour CBS TV special from September 1986. It's called 48 hours on Crack Street, and it was very much of its time. In the mid-1980s, as Rick Thompson continued tipping his hat at the local women in Marfa, and burnishing his reputation as a tough but fair dad at Presidio County, America was in the midst of a full-on hysteria about cocaine and even more so, about one particular variety of cocaine.
Starting point is 00:18:35 This is the typical tiny bottle for the new illegal drug of choice in America crack. Viles like this one are turning up empty and discarded in the streets, in the parks, in the scool yards around the nation. That's the host of 48 hours on Crack's street, Dan Rather, a liberal-minded Texan who was, at the time, probably the most famous journalist in America. And he was throwing the weight of his reputation behind investigating what a lot of people then thought was the biggest challenge facing the country. Experts warned of an entire generation of brain-damaged babies born to crack-addicted mothers.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Newspapers ran front-page articles on crack-fueled violence. The conclusion? Crack was everywhere, and no one was doing anything about it. Powder cocaine, which turned out to be just as addictive and just as harmful as crack, was trendy, commonplace, widely accepted by large swaths of white America for more than a decade. But crack, crack seems somehow much worse.
Starting point is 00:19:37 The perception was crack was a drug of the inner cities, was used by black and brown people and grimy, crime-ridden neighborhoods. And this racist narrative was used to justify a national crusade. Not long ago in Oakland, California, I was asked by a group of children what to do if they were offered drugs.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And I answered, just say no. Soon after that, those children in Oakland formed a just say no club. And now there are over 10,000 such clubs all over the country. First Lady Nancy Reagan's famous phrase just say no became the slogan of the drug war. It reduced a complex issue to a simple choice. Ignoring policy decisions, economic inequalities, angiopolitical forces, and instead focusing only on personal responsibility. It was also totally ineffective at stopping drug use,
Starting point is 00:20:36 but highly effective at escalating the drug war. Soon the government was throwing hundreds of millions of dollars at agencies like the DEA and US Customs, and a lot of that money ended up on the border, in poor, rural, out of the way places like the Big Bend region. There were the Aristotel blinks and a fleet of radar planes, and even black hawk helicopters, the kind of combat aircraft that take Navy SEALs on covert rays. This was also supposed to defeat drug smugglers, and it didn't.
Starting point is 00:21:12 But what all this renewed attention from the federal government did do was give people like Rick Thompson a lot more power, willing crusaders on the ground, ready to take up the cause. And this new role, anti-drug warrior, it fit Thompson well. Martha Stafford was a teacher by then, and she remembers the sheriff coming into her school
Starting point is 00:21:34 to bring the war on drugs into the classroom. He always did, like, an in-service for teachers. At the beginning of the year, you know, these are the drugs that are on the street, so you're aware like, you don't know what we looks like, please, you know, those kind of things. But Rick Thompson was gonna spread the word
Starting point is 00:21:56 even wider than that. Hello folks, I'm Rick Thompson, Sheriff of Procedio County. I'm working with the US Custom Service to lock up drug smuggers. Y'all can help us ruin a drug smugger's whole day. This public service announcement by the sheriff, it wasn't bluster. He really was working with the feds.
Starting point is 00:22:16 He now had a seat at the table, and he was going to do something with it. More after the break. When I first started looking into Sheriff Rick Thompson, I found a lot of my information in the local newspapers. There was the big bent sentinel that Martha, from Martha's dad, used to run. There were a few stories about Rick Thompson's anti-drug activities. Most of them rehashes oppressed briefings from the perspective of law enforcement, not
Starting point is 00:22:49 much more. But there was another area publication operating back then, something a little more underground, and its coverage of the sheriff was much more critical. This publication had started in the late 80s, wasn't published every day, or even every week, and it was basically one guy, publisher, editor, lead reporter. He was opinionated, cranky, and very good at finding dirt. Many of those in Alpun at the time knew me, knew me from high school, and they had a certain characterization.
Starting point is 00:23:29 They knew and they characterized me as a troublemaker. The most unilaterally thing they ever thought was that I would become a Marine. Having become a Marine, some of them tried to recruit me to their businesses. That's the newspaper founder, Jack McNamara. Jack was an artillery commander in Vietnam. He saw lots of combat. And when he got home, he, I'll put it this way. He didn't give a shit about telling the line.
Starting point is 00:23:58 He wanted to disturb the hornet's nest. He called his paper, the Nimbi News. Nimbi is in, in my backyard. And that was how he did it. It was in a classic term for people who are struggling in their hometowns wondering how to deal with problems, my answer was publish. So my first edition, my first copy of the NMB news was the memograph on the kitchen table. And then we went to a copy machine and made copies. That paper, it featured a series of hard-hitting investigations into an anti-drug task force then operating in West Texas. And Sheriff Rick Thompson was in the thick of it. The task force had lots of cash. There was
Starting point is 00:24:52 always lots of money in the war on drugs. But its mission wasn't so clear. Something vague like stop drugs from coming through West Texas. Find bad guys, arrest them. And then after much planning and anticipation on one night, early in 1987, the task force finally put that mission into action. They launched their first big drug sting. A dozen or so, sheriff's office cars, city cars, board of patrol cars, all running around town in Convoy serving warrants. And who were the high-profile targets of these warrants? The dangerous bad guys?
Starting point is 00:25:36 College kids and drifters, no guys who came in and cooked a restaurant or so for it. This was one big dud. They weren't bringing down narcos. Their bad guys were the softest targets imaginable. They might have been hoping for newspaper clippings with accompanying photos of piles of drugs on the table. But what they actually got was little baggies of coke,
Starting point is 00:26:02 LSD, speed and Mep. Most of those arrested never even served time. Where are the drugs? Well, there weren't many drugs. One of the federal law enforcement officers who were not friendly to Thompson and were not friendly to the narcotics task force, one of them held out both hands, cupped, and said, that much. He said, that's how much they got. Jack was getting the distinct impression from all his reporting that this wasn't about
Starting point is 00:26:37 stopping drugs muggling at all. It was an attempt to justify all the cash that had been blown. And it seemed to Jack that if people like Rick Thompson couldn't find a way to arrest their way to victory in the war on drugs, they'd just arrest someone anyway to keep their departments flush with money. I called Rick and got him on the phone. And he was very friendly, somewhat distant, but friendly. He obviously, in West Texas terms, he identified me as one of the enemy.
Starting point is 00:27:13 The question was how serious an enemy was, and how much of a threat was I. I told him I was going to file the open record request, because the drug bus he had conducted was so bad that it wasn't necessary for me to see the original records. My intention was to show that he's the most prestigious law enforcement officer in the area, and he made a mess. But the thing about Rick Thompson was, mess or no mess. When I came to Presidio County, he was the law. And he had almost limitless discretion.
Starting point is 00:27:54 I've since heard that he did not treat everybody the same. You know, Martha would have, Martha Ryan would have been taken home. But, you know, Jose Garcia made up name. Oh, what had gone to jail. Martha Stafford said she hadn't paid much attention to this stuff as a girl, but the older she got, the more she heard about a different Rick Thompson, one who played favorites, one who came down harder on Mexicans and Mexican Americans. You know, I heard that if you were on his wrong side, that he would make your life miserable,
Starting point is 00:28:37 not do anything but like follow you and you know, that kind of thing. Harassment. and you know that kind of thing. Harassment. But that apparent favoritism, that power and choosing who got taken home and who got thrown in jail. Thompson seemed to exercise it in lots of different settings. Families that everybody knew, or they were in the Koch business. They never seemed to get caught. But yet Joe Blow from El Paso, driving through Marfa, would be caught. And we would talk about it. This is weird. This is strange. You know, we know you can go right over there and buy coke.
Starting point is 00:29:25 And nothing never happens to this sky. And you think, you know, if the school teachers know it, the sheriff definitely knew it. I mean, it's Martha for God's sake. Martha wasn't sure exactly what was going on. Were the local dealers just more careful? Did the sheriff bring down the hammer on outsiders? Not wanting new
Starting point is 00:29:45 problems around. It was impossible to really know, but Martha remembered an incident in her late teenage years. There was a possible explanation. If you wanted to have a party, you would go to the cemetery because, well, nobody's ever going to the cemetery, right? And you could pull in behind. And then if there was any traffic, cars wouldn't see you. One of those evenings, she heard something. We were at a party on a Saturday afternoon in the cemetery, drinking beer. There was marijuana.
Starting point is 00:30:18 And the person who had the marijuana always seemed to have marijuana. So the question came up, you know, how do you, how do you have marijuana all the time? You know, and it was, you know, as he talked about it, he said, well, you have no idea how high up marijuana goes in this town. And he said, it goes up to the sheriff, but he said, no, that's why certain, certain amounts of marijuana come in. And they catch the rest. And so by that, you know, I took it to mean, well, Rick turns a blind eye to it or maybe receive something in return for turning a blind eye. You know, you always heard whispers in town, like, how can he afford so much property, how can he afford what he has and be buying the properties that he's buying with,
Starting point is 00:31:19 with his little shelf salary from the county. That's Cindy Goivra, a Marfa native who served as justice of the piece for 25 years. She's now percidio county judge. But more than anything, they used to bust the Redford students here at a Marfa. And they came to school here for a time. And they used to tell us, hey, your sheriff is not a good sheriff. And, you know, some of us students from Marfa would say,
Starting point is 00:31:58 yes, our sheriff is a very good sheriff. You know, we like our sheriff. Oh, no, we see him in the pastures over there meeting up with a Muffiosos. You know, he's up to no good. Meeting Muffiosos? Up to no good? What Cindy Guevara heard is a high schooler. It was beyond looking the other way when it came to local dealers.
Starting point is 00:32:26 If it was true, it meant Sheriff Rick Thompson was deep in the middle of something pretty serious and entirely illegal. Well, that called him La Puerta. That was the nickname for him among the Mexican population on the border, which means the door, which means the door, which means the smuggling time to go through him or you got in trouble. That's next time on Borderlands. Borderlands was reported and hosted by me, Rob Domingo, and written by me, Eric Benson,
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