Witnessed: Devil in the Ditch - Investigating the Satanic Panic on ‘Infamous’

Episode Date: December 7, 2023

Listen to Infamous HERE.  For Kelly Michaels, all of history is a Tolkien-like battle between a  small number of heroes and villains. Most of us are just hobbits — the  in-between folks, just try...ing to get by. Kelly, who’s getting by working  at Wee Care Nursery School in Maplewood, New Jersey, considers herself  an ordinary hobbit. That is, until she — like Frodo — gets swept up in a  battle, as panic sweeps nation over a surge in Satanism. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everyone, I'm Natalie Robomet, co-host of Infamous, a podcast about America's Biggest Scandals. Right now, Infamous is telling the story of Kelly Michaels and the Satanic Panic. It's a complicated wild tale about memory, Satanism, and how one woman was sentenced to 47 years in prison for the worst crimes imaginable, only to be exonerated. Here's a sneak preview for my co-host, Vanessa Gregorioitus. This is a story about good and evil. It's about the spiritual battle that all of us may be engaged in every moment of every day to do the right thing or what we think is the right thing
Starting point is 00:00:46 To protect those who are good and innocent from those who are evil We are in a spiritual battle every second But we decide every moment what kind of person we're going to be what kind of choices are going to make Are we going to add to the misery of the world that we're going to try to minimize there? Are we going to do what's right? We're making decisions all the time. I'm sitting with Kelly Michaels. We're in her kitchen nook near a photo of one of her seven children playing soccer. And she has thought a lot about good and evil. Perhaps more than most people
Starting point is 00:01:22 for reasons that will become clear in a little bit. Actually all human beings are kind of conunditing, which is a Tolkien. If you're a region of his books, they're all Hobbits, I believe you're not. She's talking about J.R.R. Tolkien, the legendary author of Lord of the Rings, and the Hobbit. You see, Kelly believes that most of us are Hobbits. If you haven't seen the movies or read the books, hobbits are the ruddy, homely, shy or folk who aren't looking for adventure or big ideas, but just want a regular, ordinary life.
Starting point is 00:01:55 What about breakfast? We've already had it. We've had one, yes. What about second breakfast? Hobbits are more concerned with beer and finding someone to volumn love with and their next delicious meal than ideas of evil. In Lord of the Rings, this evil takes the form of Sauron, which is, this is how he's portrayed, and all seeing I of fire. This entity, this eye of fire,
Starting point is 00:02:27 wants to take over middle earth, wants everything. You did not see her as you think that a hobbit could contend with a will of soda. Evil is the absence of good. Evil is the absence of truth, the absence of love, the absence of mercy, the absence of beauty. There's always been the small, elite view that own and run everything and run the peasants, which is most of us are peasants. Just trying to survive, have family raised kids, try to have a good life, and then there's like some heroic people to battle against, people that would reduce people to slaves,
Starting point is 00:03:11 reduce people to ants that don't have any value. And then most of us are caught in the middle with these forces. The history is mainly made by a small percentage of really bad people versus a handful of very heroic good people. And the middle is like kind of get pushed around by both sides. Sometimes, Kelly thinks the regular second breakfast eating folk, the hobbits, can get swayed by evil forces. They say you can get people to believe anything you keep repeating enough times. It's in, as Solzizin says, the line between good evil runs between not between cultures or sexes or political parties it runs between every human heart and it's a cliche but there is a truth to that, you know. And which side of that line you're on can have very real consequences
Starting point is 00:04:01 that have nothing to do with the fictional world of Lord of the Rings. For Kelly Michaels, that would mean going to prison and even more than that, becoming a pariah, being cast out of civil society. This woman, in this breakfast nook, became the definition of absolute evil. If you want to hear more, it's all on the podcast infamous. Listen to infamous wherever you get your podcasts.

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