Wolf and Owl - Bonus Email Episode #7

Episode Date: March 19, 2021

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Hey, you, welcome to the Wolf and Owl email special Tom's eating some granola and yoghurt Yeah, boy Still hasn't finished Oh, we're just having a fucking crazy time Listen, Tom's having granola and yoghurt and that still hasn't finished we're just having a fucking crazy time listen, Tom's having granola and yoghurt I had a little bit of porridge what we want to know is, what are you having for breakfast

at the moment? Is it toast? Is it cereal? Is it a little bit of fruit? Send all your pictures in of you eating your breakfast to wolf at gmail.com actually you know what, because this pictures thing is exploding. I've got an idea, Ron.

Send your pictures to the Wolf Hour podcast Instagram, and then we can re-gram them from there. Oh, my God. That is such an obviously good solution to that situation. Yeah, but there's no point putting up a load of pictures of just what? Hitler. No, no, no, no. The sweet soul ones.

Don't worry about the sweet soul ones, right? Unless you've written, Rom is a sweet soul like that. It's quite funny. But if you write, you know, just this week, let's just get some wacky pictures of over the weekend of people eating their breakfast.

That's quite cool. It's quite funny. It's quite out there. What are we turning into? Is this fucking Heart FM? It's quite funny. It's quite out there. What are we turning into?

Is this fucking Heart FM? If they're pulling funny faces and stuff. Okay, do an impression of Romesh eating his breakfast. No, please don't. What are you having? Granola, yogurt and what? Banana. Is it nice lovely

you ate banana the other day and you ate it in such a sultry way what's that someone gave you a banana and you ate it why are you watching me

eating a fucking banana I couldn't help it the way you were eating it was so inviting what are you talking about you eat a banana yeah in such a slow

methodical way like how everybody else eats a banana no no no no no no no no there's something going on there bro when you else eats a banana? No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. There's something going on there, bro, when you're eating a banana. Okay. Do me a favour. Don't ever tell me you've watched me eat a banana. No, you're breaking

it apart. It's all methodical. It's all like, you know, like when you hear about serial killers and they sort of like... No, they go about it slow and steady. I'm like stuffing it in my face. You're like really taking your time with it. I'd love to see you eat a tangerine or an orange by the way while we're talking about fruit i just want to share something with you now yeah that i think is a fucking game changer so a few years ago

i was in la yeah and they've got loads of obviously around la they've got loads of uh little street vendors and stuff yeah and one of the ones i had was they had a mexican fruit stand right and i bought some fruit off this guy and it was pineapple with some like chili salt or something on it right and it tasted you know one of those things that you eat something on a holiday or wherever and it stays with you forever like it was a fucking amazing right anyway the other day i'm on tiktok okay just flicking through tiktok and there's this guy who runs his sweet company and in this in the videos he's putting he's getting like haribos and shit like that and he's putting a little bit of chili sauce and chili powder on them right and like mixing up and apparently this is what mexicans like this is like a mexican way of eating sweets right and somebody says what is that you're putting

on there and he says it's tahin which is the chili stuff they put on fruit right so i go holy shit this must be the stuff okay so? So then I order some. Mate, I've been having it on, like, pineapple, melon, apple. What's it called, this stuff? It's called tahin, T-A-H-I-N. Where did you get it from? It's this chili and lime powder, like, crushed chili thing. You put it on fruit, mate, it is sensational. All fruit?

I haven't tried it with banana. I'll tell you what i've tried it on strawberries melon watermelon pineapple mango wow i what did i say apple no anyway apple it's dude if it was an apple yes great yeah i didn't realize we had an expert on the podcast. I'm just saying. Oh, God. Oh, God. that was so good. All right, let's get to our first email. Hi, lads.

I'd like to be anonymous, if you could please. This is my partner. He listens to Pod with me while we're in our car at times. Both big fans, too. I mean, I wonder if we should even include that detail because that feels like it's giving anyway doesn't matter um as with millions of people it's the end of march 2020 myself and my partner have been both working from home this started off fantastically well and we've not been able to work in our own environments and spend more time together i've sort of taken out details here because i think he's undermining his anonymity here slightly rather than having elected commute to and from the office our usual setup is uh while our kid is away my partner works

downstairs and i stay stay upstairs in the bedroom as i mentioned the system worked very well as we both have regular meetings we have to attend during the day however over the past few months my partner has increasingly been expressing that she wants me to sit downstairs with her as she misses me i'm only a flight of stairs above her and i like having my own space to have my own podcast music etc on while i'm grafting away so i've all said no i want to know if i'm on the right to do what i'm doing or if i'm being a dickhead by refusing to sit with her both of our offices seem unlikely to reopen at full capacity therefore likely does this may soon become permanent um we're in a perfectly happy

and balanced relationship we do to get married this summer but this is a minor minor nag that we would like to resolve your opinion would be greatly appreciated you know what i've noticed a lot of people who write in are getting married yeah i guess so because sort of you're sort of in lockdown and you think you don't know that there are other options do you sort of it becomes less apparent no no i'm saying we've had quite a few recently so it's quite, you know, we probably have to pick the weddings that we go to a little bit more carefully. But anyway,

so yeah, I've picked mine and that is none of them. Right, here we go. Right, go on. Anonymous Man.

Let's just call you that because it's easier. Is it? Is that easier? Anonymous Man every single time you refer to him? Yeah,

I'm going to try. Anonymous Man. I actually think refer to him? Yeah, I'm going to try. Anonymous man. I actually think there's a best of both worlds situation. I think what you do is you, Monday to Wednesday, you work upstairs and then anonymous man, Thursday and Friday,

you go downstairs with your sweet, sweet lady and you work down there together. I think it's actually quite nice the fact that you've spent a year working at home um and it's clear that you've got a situation in which things are going well and you you're not having arguments you're getting together and listening to this podcast which I think is is a beautiful thing it's a beautiful thing um and i think uh i think yeah i think that she has said oh yeah i miss you when you're upstairs it's quite sweet i think that's quite nice i think yeah i think for me i think she's sending you out something there to say yo i care about you i love you i miss seeing your face for a few hours um and i think you you know, maybe try it on a Friday.

Dress down Friday. You both work downstairs. And then maybe what would be nice is on a Thursday, you invite her to work upstairs with you. And then you know what? You're breaking a routine. And routines sometimes

can get a little bit stifling. That's quite, I think that's the way it'll go for me. Anyway, an honest man, thank you for writing in and send any of your wedding pictures to wolfoutpod at gmail.com. I would love to step in and say that I think Tom's advice was excellent. I do think that's a great solution.

I've done about two days a week. It depends how busy you are. You know what I would do is maybe you do it as one day a week but you do that make that day the wednesday because like wednesday is like the toughest day isn't it yeah i just think wednesday could be a nice little thing for you to look forward to you know what else happens on a wednesday yeah the old wolf and alcoma come out to play uh but what you could do is you could do a little role play thing you know maybe mix it up sort of she's like working alongside the office from you you've not met each other before and

then suddenly start doing a bit of flirting do you mean throw a little bit of side eye she comes over and she goes um i've got something for your inbox or you would say that to her or something and then you say oh really well i haven't seen it yet and she goes oh she goes oh haven't you and then you get then you pay someone 50 quid to come and be your hr person yeah somebody you'd ideally like a threesome with and they come in and they go okay it seems to be a bit of a dispute here and then what's the dispute about and then you go the dispute is she's too hot and then she says and this is my dispute is you're not gonna be able to see this people but rubbish looked up at his door this no do you know why because i sort of i sort of realized i'm at home

lisa and the kids are here and i'm sort of because i sort of i sort of realized i'm at home lisa and the kids are here and i'm sort of doing some sort of weird sexual fantasy thing anyway look i've carried this bit on too far the point is you could make it part of your thing it does it did remind me this email of two issues i've got um that i'd love to broach with you tom yeah one of them is this that obviously i've been doing the rang a nation over the last six weeks and we we write that show from monday to wednesday and then obviously and then we record it on a thursday and lisa told me the other day we were talking about bits and pieces about coming out of lockdown and what we're going to do in a bit of family quality time and stuff like

that and she made the observation to me that when i'm working i completely shut everything else off like she goes we all know that when you're working you're completely in it and you you're just completely in the zone with it yeah and she said she said i don't mean that in a bad way but i did sort of take it in about do you know what i mean like what the implication i got from that is it doesn't matter what's going on with your family if you're in work you're in work I mean are you like that yeah I'm like at the moment we're filming King Gary I can tell you now that I know that I'm you know not self I suppose it's selfish my mind and my my yeah my focus is on that at the moment it's you know it's like today I've finished this and I've got writing to do I've got to rewrite some scenes and I've got, you know. So, yeah, I think you have to kind of,

it's all encompassing, isn't it, when you do what we do, I think, to hopefully take it seriously. And I think sometimes, yeah, I'd say that I've, yeah, I know myself that I sort of let other things maybe sort of drift a little bit and I need to sort of be better at that, I think, you know, and show that the respect it deserves.

Because it's easy to, it's easy to sort of just completely at that, I think, you know, and show that the respect it deserves. Because it's easy to sort of just completely fucking go, right, this is the thing that I'm doing. I'm just going to be running at this thing. And this is everything that is, you know, that's going on. And what you realize is that, and I think it's probably even made harder that for the last year, we've been in this sort of situation

where we have sort of been at home more and we have been doing stuff more. So then you've probably given that for the last year we've been in this sort of situation where we have sort of been at home more and we have been doing stuff more so then you've probably given more time to that i know before lockdown happened i was working far too hard i was always well i was like six days a week five of those in the office in london um well you know when and you know then yeah i'd started like you i'd started going back to doing bits of gigging so I was like all the time I really took my after ball I think

and that's and that's my bad and I think that yeah I can completely sort of empathise with that and see where

in what Lisa's saying yeah we're both guilty the other thing I would say and I'm aware this paint's been quite a bad light

bearing in mind that I do a job that is sort of essentially kind of dicking about. But if I'm writing stand-up or writing a script or writing whatever, doing any writing, it takes me ages to get back to the point that I was at mentally if I get interrupted. Yeah. Which is why sometimes when Lisa says to me,

when Lisa pops in when I'm writing and says something to me like uh how does my how do these what do you think of how these leggings fit i just bought them i sometimes react with uh in not in a way that she uh finds useful or or helpful or indeed encouraging for our ongoing relationship together because because basically it's going to take me finds useful or helpful or indeed encouraging for our ongoing relationship together. Because basically, it's going to take me fucking 45 minutes to get back to that point

in my concentration. Do you know what I mean? What's interesting is, and this is like a sort of slightly skewed off the point, what you say about our job is messing around and being silly and dicking about.

The truth of it is, that's a really small part of it. That's a really, really small part of our jobs. Like, I think on the outset, it can look like that at times. I think actually the serious focus that I know, you know, you take to make Ranganation the show, the amazing show it is,

isn't you just sitting at home with a fucking big silly wig on dancing about. You know, there's a lot of a lot of thought that goes into every part you know don't get me wrong with me and james wright and king gary who ever laugh but that's that's probably for the first two or three weeks it's really like you're laughing and then you're essentially sort of you're making out an equation yeah yeah you're working out what works what doesn't even you know for this friday you know you're a very special person in my life i wish wish that I could, I wish that, you know, we had a bit of a laugh,

but it was massively stressful Friday. Oh, my God. You're not just conscious of the fact that if I get this wrong, I want to look a bit of a wally. If I get this wrong, it's a Friday night and we, you know, in the end, we were there for an hour and a half after we should have left. And that's not because of me and you, but you are conscious of like, that isn't messing about.

That's like going, you know, everyone here is, you know, they're all setting this stuff up for me and Rom to walk into and do our thing. And if that thing doesn't go, and everyone's doing an amazing job, but if me and Rom then are like, oh yeah, I've pulled Rom's trousers down and we're pissing about, then that is all for nothing. And you sort of, you make a bit of a mockery like, oh yeah, I've pulled Rom's trousers down and we're pissing about, then that is all for nothing. And you sort of,

you make a bit of a mockery of, you know, the basis of any show, Ranganation, King Gow, any show is a crew of people who put that together for me, me and you to be able to go

to mess around. But then you have an obligation to them to make what they put together as good as you can and take that seriously, I think. Yeah. The only thing I would say, I totally agree with you. The only thing I would say to make what they put together as good as you can and take that seriously i think yeah the only thing i would say i don't i totally agree with you the only thing i would say is that because

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Or whatever. Like what just sounds like fucking maniacal... Is it okay to say cock in that bit? Or do you reckon it sort of takes away from it? Like, should we just say penis? I think I should say penis. I think that's funnier, right? And she's walking past going,

this is this guy's fucking job. Yeah. It sounds absolutely ridiculous. Yeah, and that is so true. But also, there is a lot of worth in what you're saying. Like, Bill Burr is the king, right? absolutely ridiculous yeah but that's that and that is so true but also that isn't that there is a lot of worth in what you're saying like bill burr is bill burr's the king right and bill burr's use of language is incredible if you're writing base stuff that is just like you never sort of like you never query whether you'd say cornflakes or rice whatever you never just cock undermine

that joke that is what that is what that's what writing jokes and that's what writing scripts is all all about so yeah that is our job job and it is fun and it's it's you know I'm we're both

blessed to do that but by that token we have a due diligence both of us to hopefully make make what we're doing worthwhile

yeah I mean I guess what we're but Tom and I saying is it's a really fucking hard job and you're welcome to take the sacrifices on for your entertainment. Okay, next email.

This is from Sadika Ahmad. Yo guys, love this podcast. Anyway, I hope I can ask you both a question. What do you do to relax and take your mind off what's happening in the world? I don't know why I'm reading a lot of this. I'm finding it very hard at the moment to not look at the news all the time.

It's really affecting my mental health. Big love. Many thanks. What do you think? I stopped looking at the news quite a while ago, just on the basis that it was dragging. I got obsessed, I think, around the time of Capitol Hill and Trump and Corona and all that sort of stuff. I was at CNN on my house all the time.

I was just literally Fox News or whatever, just like switching between them at that sort of time, seeing what different people was. So I became obsessed. And then at the beginning of coronavirus, it was the same. And it's such an unhealthy thing to do. I genuinely think that the best thing you can do to switch off is is some sort of physical activity and it's taken me to the

age of uh 40 41 now to actually realize that what what the bonuses are of actually just breaking away and doing some chilled something chilled and something know, just going out and pumping some iron or doing something. You can't say pumping iron without sounding like a dickhead. Well, you could have just said lifting weights. No, but or jumping on the bike. You know, the other thing I've tried to do is meditate. I try to listen to that chilled.

There's one with Matthew. Headspace. Yeah, I've listened to Calm with Matthew McConaughey. The trouble with listening to Matthew McConaughey is he's such an amazing storyteller. So you actually don't relax. You're literally on the edge of your seat waiting to see what happens.

You need someone really boring for that, telling those things. Mate, what? You're talking about meditating? Yeah, just chilling. There's a podcast for sleeping called Sleep With Me. Yeah. That's fucking great.

And it's just this guy doing exactly that telling a really boring story I've never got to the end of it really like you put yeah you know it'll just go it's like an American guy and I go so uh no welcome to the sleep with me podcast today was dominated by I wanted to go to the shop and buy what was it I got? I had a situation where I'm trying to eat more vegetables and so I was looking at a list of vegetables that you could eat. You could eat carrots. You could eat broccoli. It goes on like that.

And I've never got past the first 10 minutes of it. It just sends me breath. By the way, I can't remember who it is, but somebody emailed in with this tip if you want to listen to a podcast in bed right and you don't want to wake up the other half you put the phone inside your pillow underneath the pillow actual you know so inside the bottom cover underneath the pillow and you can set it at a volume where you lying down can hear it crystal clear and your other half can't hear it at all wow it

is game-changing i'm so sorry i can't remember who told us but i'll look it up and find out but anyway that podcast is great but yes you're right physical exercise is uh is very very helpful as is um just anything that keeps you in the moment. I'd use a bit of headspace sometimes. I'd do a bit of colouring in. It's something I've doubled with a little bit during lockdown. I did a jigsaw. I did a jigsaw.

I enjoyed it. There you go. Cooking is another good one. Just anything like that that brings you into the moment. I had a very, very awful experience. When COVID first happened and we were first going into lockdown and it first hit the seriousness of it, it's funny, actually.

When you listen to... I did a couple of podcasts just before it all kicked off. I did the Two Vegan vegan idiots podcast with carl donnelly and julian dean and we were like fucking joking about covid because we had no idea at that stage yeah that it was going to be this thing that it ended up being do you know what i mean so you're just sort of going oh blimey you know like you know you're just sort of joking about it in a way that you know because the idea that it was going to affect our lives so massively seems so ridiculous but around that time i was lying in bed and i read a story on the lisa went to sleep and i was just on my phone which is

generally covid or not a stupid thing to do right is to be looking at your phone um i saw a story about how a tiger in a zoo had got covid and i was like fucking animals can get this and it just triggered me into thinking there was no escape from it and i spent two hours in a mental kind of spiral about this is the apocalypse and blah blah blah and then after that i made the decision i can't look at that shit before bed man and like there's loads of people i can't remember who it is but you talk about listen to the routines of loads of sports people loads of people I can't remember who it is but you talk about listen to the you call it routines of loads of sports people loads of people that

sort of their psychology is important to them and doing what they do they don't look or engage in any kind of external media about two hours before they go to sleep

and I know two hours is a lot but like you know if you can do an hour or something like that it's probably going to be good for you I think listen to him on Calm

it's incredible yeah what did he say that exactly you've just said and also how important sleep is you know like this is a big shout out to romesh actually um and i don't always do this but on friday i'd work i've just got to have a week of working long long days and friday i was i think mentally absolutely broken like so shattered so tired and uh I was texting Romesh and Romesh said look you know you're just tired you're just you're just exhausted so all the stuff you're saying and yeah I was in a bit of a sort of a bit being a bit down on myself and Romesh was you know picked me up on that and and you know uh and yesterday I spent the whole day sleeping I was you know I had to do some

jobs around or whatever with the missus and then today I feel better because I was just tired so when you listen to a lot of these

like Ronaldo and LeBron James great sports people the thing that they do is the actual importance of sleep and rest and when they see sleep it's actually

like resting your mind and resting physically and mentally resting is so important so actually taking that time just to sort of like as Romesh says just just being in something and and taking it away from because because worry is a hell of a thing it's always going to be there and if you're not engaging in other thing of things if you're sort of just letting your mind float your mind usually will float towards a place that I think anyway for me anyway that's that's my experience usually it's worry or sort of something a little bit down or whatever and i think it's

easy to do that especially in these times so i think to try and engage in activities whether they're mental whether physical is a really important thing i had a i had a different thing to worry about this weekend so we had that we did that day's filming together and then yesterday was like my first day off in a while and um i had a great time i went for a walk with lisa and the kids um and then our second son he wanted to do some baking right so he and i went i went popped into the shop got some stuff and we baked a cake together and it was wonderful except for the fact i couldn't eat this cake it was a non-vegan cake i mean the kids had it just during the course of being in the

kitchen and being at home and having a day off the amount of food i inhaled during the course of yesterday it was like i was about to fucking hibernate for six months. It was absolutely ridiculous. I could not be filled up, man. It's like a fucking vortex. And I would literally... Mate, this is the other thing I talked to you about, having to have two of everything. I'll have a bowl of cereal, and midway

through that bowl of cereal, I'll be thinking about how much I'm going to put in the second bowl. Just have one bowl, you fucking green... No, mate, don't even. I don't know what is wrong with you, Just have one bowl, you fucking green. No, mate, don't even. I don't know what is wrong with you. I did it last night. Catherine Cook is an incredible, like she was like,

I've been away. I've been, you know, whatever. We've been working. When you work on set, you know, you're coming back home late at night, whatever. So Catherine Cook is an amazing curry. And I was like, oh, you know what? I might just get some picky bits from the Chinese.

Chicken balls. So what was a healthy curry that she cooked for me? Because she's worried about my health. Okay, me having some picky bits were like chicken balls, spring rolls, prawn crackers, shredded beef. It's mental, isn't it? I ate what I'd usually have from a chinese and a curry but i started googling how do i stop being hungry it's all the usual shit about fucking drink loads of

water and all i'm terrible at that by the way the number of times i fucking go to take a piss at the end of the day and fucking marmalade comes out of my dick i've got better at that in time i have had to do this thing now where first thing in the morning i have to drink a shit ton of water because i know i just will forget during the day and so i just try and at least get a head start on my hydration i don't think you know like i i just drink so much coffee that's my killer and then i wonder why i'm shitting through the eye of a needle for fucking two days after i finish yeah i i wonder why why i start crying uh at coach trip i think it might i think it might be the 17 coffees i've had before 5 p.m i watched an episode

of catfish yesterday and cried an episode of catfish can i tell you something now we were talking about this over the weekend right so i finally got around to watching the finale of wandavision oh yeah okay and we could talk about this is supposed to watching the finale of WandaVision. Oh, yeah. And we could talk about, this is supposed to be the email episode, but we'll talk about it. So I got to the, the WandaVision,

I'm going to say, often this happens with me and you, I wasn't sure about WandaVision when it started off, all that sitcom stuff and the, the tribute to I Love Lucy and all that. And then moving, I thought, I don't know, I'm not sure about this, but I watched it because I love Marvel.

That finale, I cried my eyes out, man. Really? Yeah, it was, and obviously partly that is being tired, but fucking hell, it was great, man. I loved it. Thank you, Marvel. The penultimate season of Orange is the New Black, that actually left me in tears

I was broken by the way we should announce okay we are going to do as another we're doing a scat episode as a bonus thing

another bonus that Tom and I are going to do it's probably going to have to be in the next week or so is a Married at First Signing sort of final conclusion thing

also I'm going to give The Mandalorian a try out because you know Mark Manero he says it's really good this is what annoys me this is what annoys me and Tom final conclusion thing. Also, I'm going to give The Mandalorian a try out because you know Mark Manero, he says it's really good. This is what annoys me. This is what annoys me.

And Tom, as he said it, his little head cocked back because he knew he was doing something annoying, which is where I've been telling Tom to watch The Mandalorian for ages. He constantly tells me how Star Wars is for virgins

and all this shit. Right. And now because Mark Manero, the brilliant Mark Man manero because he's recommended it now tom's decided he's going to give it a fucking whirl so fine okay it was you were the kid who plays uh teddy riley you're the two yeah you're the only two people i know who really raving about it yeah and. And then somebody you actually respected. So sorry, Riley, about that. But it turns out that Tom doesn't give a poopy. You know what?

Even Roy, do you know Roy Estabrook? Even he turned around and was like, oh, Mark Manero. About eight people are going to watch it now, I think. Okay. Well, that's great. Disney need a bit of a boost anyway, don't they? Okay.

So anyway, Sad, I hope that helps your situation and we've kind of veered off a bit but the point is get yourself something where you're in the moment you're not thinking about other things right and i hope you find that okay this one's a little bit uh look we're gonna i'm gonna read this i don't know if this this is quite a heavy email for them uh but i'm delighted that this person has consulted us but also quite worried for them that they have done uh okay uh anonymous i need some help my wife and i've been married for six years now last year we had a rough patch and ever since then things haven't been quite right recently i found myself looking at her emails i know i shouldn't but they were open and i just couldn't

help myself there was an email in the draft folder that was blank but just had an email address from 2018 it was written to someone she'd met on holiday years before for context he lives in another country so i searched for the email address and a sent one came up. The email was upsetting. I won't give the full details but in the email she called him babe and told him she missed him. Now the email was 2018. We'd been married for three years at the time and I shouldn't be looking through emails but what can I do? I'm not sure what to do. Do I call her out for it as it's not acceptable to be speaking to other men in that way when married? Or do I bury this and not risk my marriage? I love her to pieces.

I'm scared if this comes out, it'll force us apart. Thanks in advance. Wow. Yeah, I mean, that's a tough one, isn't it? Because the truth of the matter is, I guess you have seen it. You shouldn't

have looked. I don't think think i don't agree with the fact you've gone through her emails i think that you know if she's left her emails open you should have probably you know given her the respect and if not looking through them but you have done there's no going back on that now um and there probably was some part of you that was already sort of i guess you know there's a reason why you went through emails. So you were sort of, whether that was suspicion or whatever. But man, this is a tough one, isn't it? Because I think you kind of probably have to bring it up.

I mean, you know, I guess it's looking at the shot of either one. You bring it up and ask her what the situation is, you're going to probably kick off a sort of argument on the basis that she's going to, you know, you've been looking through her stuff. But on the flip side of that, you know, you might be able to actually sort of get some of the stuff that you've, you know, there's been going on and actually sort of talk candidly about how you both feel.

You know, I think we've said on here before, you know, there's been going on and actually sort of talk candidly about how you both feel. You know, I think we've said on here before, you know, relationships are hard. We all know that. You have to work at them. All of us, there are ups and downs. I think for you, sort of reading something like that is obviously pretty heartbreaking. You know, by that token as well,

I think if you just leave it, you're never going to be able to resolve it. And I that's just gonna that's just gonna be in your head the whole time and i yeah i guess for me anyway i think you you probably are as tough as it's going to be bringing out to broach that subject for some time um but yeah man i mean yeah that's a tough it's a tough one wow oh there's a happy email after this one ron yeah well look um i i agree with everything that tom said what i would say to you is is this uh i think you need to have the conversation you shouldn't have looked at the emails but you have done now like tom said and i know you're worried that if it comes out it'll force you apart but the truth is if you're supposed to be together

you'll be together do you mean and so it might be really difficult but you don't know what the circumstances of her sending this email are she might have had a moment or a bit of time where she was having doubts or whatever you know you just don't know the circumstances these things are always better discussed because you've got something to sort out which is why she sent that email and she's got something to sort out which is what led you to be looking at her emails you know both of those things are problems and it's better to have a difficult period and get this sorted out for whatever whatever the outcome would be than for you to have this festering with you forever what you're going to do have this sit with you forever and ever do you mean it's like you know i think it's a difficult one so look good

luck man uh i hope that helps i really do okay moving on uh this is this email is less of a question than it is a just sort of we don't often read emails that that that big us up here but this i felt was very celebratory and i just wanted to share this with you. Okay? And I don't know if it even requires a response, but I'm sure you will do. Okay, here we go. All right, boys.

I just wanted to thank you so much for an amazing podcast you put out on a pretty much bi-weekly basis. Yeah, apologies for the one time we skipped because of Tom. A subject you rarely touch upon, yet which seems to every pore of your show, is male friendship. A few years ago, I was getting towards the rocky end of a marriage i lost my way

and i lost myself first of all i lost my best mate he couldn't stand by and see what i was becoming yet he knew if he tried to slap any sense into me he'd risk losing me forever he'd made attempts to talk me around to no avail after a heated bout of conversations we ended up taking a break from one another for two or three years we didn't even exchange a text message nothing last summer me and my ex finally put our relationship to rest and went our separate day separate ways who did i call first for help jubilation a shoulder to cry on you've got it my best mate my partner in crime my main man after years apart we picked up exactly where we left off and we're even closer than we were before now we speak almost daily he knows me and supports me like no other this year

we bonded more than ever over the wolf and our podcast never does an episode get released without one of us letting us know each letting each the other know immediately we both love the camaraderie the piss-taking and the obvious love you have for each other i feel i can sense us upping our bromance game to new heights thanks to the amazing role models you two have become we let each other know how much we love each other and appreciate and look up to each other, et cetera, et cetera. Thank you so much.

Isn't that lovely? That is very nice. It's actually very needed as well. It's very sweet, isn't it? And it's nice to hear. It's very nice to hear. It's nice to hear. And I think that's how our friendship has blossomed.

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And teaming up. Or face extinction. Godzilla Kong, the new empire. Now playing only in theaters the unheard records the uh the the early podcast that we never released but yes they were very bonding between the two of us and i think you know the love between us has grown over this over this sweet sweet time doing these podcasts there's still disrespect and stuff. I mean, sometimes a little bit of... Yeah, sometimes you can be a bit flippant

and you need a dry slap. And sometimes you need to be beat down a bit. But no, you've proven to be a noble sidekick and I respect you for that. Wow. You know, sometimes you sugarcoat what is quite clearly a massively **** comment with a kind of soft voice and a nice demeanor.

And that can fool people into thinking that you're, you're being nice and actually being horribly vicious. Listen, um, I, I genuinely, I look forward to these, these sitting here with you and doing these,

these podcasts. And also I think it is important. I think that there is something about, um, yeah, I've, I've got powers that sort of where we, where you drift apart. and i think i've talked

about on here before and you you don't speak to for a while and it's and then you know you said that that olive branch and if you get one back in i think you can pick up where you left off and i think that's one of the nice things of life if i think of you know if you're lucky i think you can you can touch a lot of lives you can talk to a lot of people. And by that I mean just through living your life and different people you meet in different places. And it's always nice to touch base with an old friend. But, you know, more than that, it's nice to build a rock solid foundation with a new friend.

Your voice sounds really hot right now. Do you know that? I don't know what you've sort of slipped into there, but that's sort of, you know. It's me. I have trouble with being, I have trouble with being

like really, really real. My own voice sometimes sounds like a Clemverson club across the head when I'm trying to be sentimental. I loved it. Okay. Now now this email is um i don't know how you're going to feel about this bro but um i'm interested on your take on it uh hi romish and tom love the podcast uh my eyes

always streaming your banter so naturally so lovely isn't it uh my question relates to a conversation i heard at work now tom i know a lot of the time when i start reading these emails you kind of start drifting off or eat a snack or something but just try and stay focused because i need you to engage with this fully okay okay my question relates to a conversation i heard at work i overheard a colleague telling tom's potpourri story almost word for word and it was very well received. Everyone was laughing. I sat there in two minds

whether to call bullshit or let him get on with it. I chose the latter. So my question is, should I have called him on it? Was I right to think we all embellish stories to make them funnier? Let him have fun with it. I love everything the pair of you do. Keep up the good work.

I don't know how to feel about that so this guy I assume that this guy's told the story as if it happened to him yeah I'm guessing that you know what in some ways yeah that could be a little bit could be a bit of a kick in the teeth

but in other ways you know what if it's a guy in the teeth. But otherwise, you know what? If it's a guy in an office and he's trying to find his place and he's listened to that story and he's found it funny and he's passing it along, and if it somehow makes people like him more or people have a laugh with people more or show a side to him which is a bit more vulnerable

and maybe he doesn't feel comfortable in sharing, you know, actual, uh, his stories of his own. Maybe he hasn't been in a situation where he's, uh, looked quite as ridiculous. Um, then yeah,

fair play to the guy. If I'm honest with you, like, you know, I think it's a bit, it's a bit of a sorry act because I think most of us have been in situations that are pretty embarrassing and pretty, you know, that's literally,

I mean, I, we could do, we could do fucking special upon special of the situations that me and Monwich talk about where we have felt that pathetic or something's, you know, that's not just an isolated incident. And,

and that, and that's the different that, that these happen to everyone because that's just human nature. So maybe he's just not comfortable in, in actually bearing stories of his own. Uh, and yeah, he's gone that nature. So maybe he's just not comfortable in actually bearing stories of his own. And, you know, he's gone that way. So I'll bear no ill will. But what I do also by that token is

thank you for sending an email in and thank you for having my back on that one. I respect you. I think it's really nice that Tom did a very good, made a very good fist of hiding the fact that he wants that guy dead we were talking about this just the other day

literally talking about it in the car and he's telling to people at work and you know there's people out there who've done far worse who've taken people's stories and told them on stage so the truth of the matter is this is as old as time uh there was probably people in the bible who are taking credit for other people's work yeah yeah uh yeah maybe it wasn't judas who nicked all the silver it was someone else i mean we took the suit yeah it's that you know that is just you got just... You got yourself into a pickle very quickly.

I didn't give you that biblical example. I couldn't quite remember the details or whatever. I haven't read the Bible for about... Actually, I think I've read it all. I've read the skinny version. Yeah. There is another issue here, by the way. Because, obviously, there are a number of issues

with, I guess, passing the store off as his own own or whatever and tom's been very magnanimous there what i would say though is this guy is putting himself at risk a little bit because it's possible that if that story smashed it that he's going to start telling that story elsewhere you know he's probably run it out there and he's thinking this is going to become one of my stories now and then what happens when if somebody happens to stumble across the wall for now podcast and i listen to that story the ramifications of that for that guy if i if i if somebody told me a story as if it was their anecdote and then i heard a comedy thing and it was a bit not i mean not that it's a bit of your material you were just telling a story but i then heard it was something i don't know how i'd feel about that like with regards to that person

no do you know i mean so the question is how good a mate are you with this guy because what you could do i'm not suggesting you do this is up to you whether you do that what you could do is rather than calling him out in front of everybody which would be a really fucking horrendous thing to do is just say to him look mate just so you know i know that story's from the the wolf and owl you know it's from tom davis i'm just letting you know that it's possible that if you tell that again that other people will will have heard it there and it just makes it's just a bit embarrassing i mean he knows do you know what i mean and then and then if you continue to tell that story and he thinks i'm willing to roll the dice on that

then that's his decision exactly if he's if you ride upon the devil's back get ready to feel his fiery tongue okay that feels like

somebody's put the devil into a porn hub search okay we've got time for one more I think yeah baby this is from I don't think there's any reason to get this person anonymous this is from shiraz khan uh hey guys love the podcast would be honored if you could provide your insights on the below me and the missus watching goggle box the other

day and a clip from the million pound porn tv shop came up where the lady wanted to sell her late uncle's watch even though she gives a heartwarming story and how much it means to her she still ends up selling it and take the money takes the money it turned out to be a fake Rolex made with real gold this is where the debate started the missus reacted with utter disgust to the fact that even though this watch had sentimental value the lady still decided to sell it and take the money first off we don't know why the lady needed the money but my argument was if the lady goes out to buy a gift for herself with that money does the new item have some sentimental value as her late uncle's watch

had contributed to the purchase? My missus says, straight up no, only the watch holds sentimental value, whereas I argue it does as sentimental value is determined by the individual and not what others think.

Therefore, I thought, what better way to settle this than to get the wise wisdom views of the wolf and owl. Appreciate your help on this. Firstly, massive props to the woman for getting away with, because those guys on that show are fucking savvy.

So that she managed to fucking swindle them with a fake watch is fucking. I think that, I don't think, I don't, I think you may have misinterpreted that. I think they knew it was a fake Rolex, but it had real gold in it. Oh,

so she didn't swindle them. No, they didn't. I thought that was another one of us to put on our film list. It's quite, you know, it felt like quite a film mix. Would that be the,

that would, I guess that would be what the sequel to the Marbury handbag. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then obviously then we'd probably get a bit more money for budget. So we did a big drink capture,

maybe with George Clooney. That's the plan. Anyway, the sequel to the Marbury, oh God, have you seen the sequel? It's all about this old woman who trusts the cello watch it's weird

because I knew the sequel would be bad because the first one was so shit but I still found myself feeling disappointed right let's hit it

yeah listen the two of you I like a debate I like a heated debate as you know me and Rom have these quite often

personally I agree with I think your girlfriend the two of you. I like a debate. I like a heated debate. As you know, me and Rob have these quite often. Personally, I agree with, I think it is your girlfriend, your wife, whoever said the, I think that the same sentiment or values there on whatever she's, you know,

I don't know what she brought with that money, but if she's gone out and bought a chain that she can wear, and it's something that she can then hold dear. And she, yeah, the watch for her sort of maybe is a bit useless. It just sits hold dear. And she, yeah, the watch for her sort of maybe is a bit useless. It just sits on the side and she doesn't, she might be saying, you know,

she's probably saying that for her, she can wear and she can remember that person. So I sort of agree. Yeah. The person who said that, that's where I'm coming at this. Rom, do you agree or disagree,

baby? Well, I think, I think the level of sentimental value can be determined by whether that woman wants to sell it or not. I mean, you don't know how much she needs the money. And also, it might be that she thinks it does have some sentimental value,

but what's better than sentimental value is me being able to pay my mortgage this month. Yeah. You know, and so, you know, if she she stays in her house there's some sentiment in that you know her i don't know what the background story is but i i you know i think that i would be inclined not to judge her on this i mean i think there's a little bit of a hog of crap about sentimental items personally okay i wasn't going to say this but i do so i do agree i think this sentimental value thing it people tend to say that about things they just want to keep hold of

yeah yeah and i don't like if that's this that's that's the i don't think you can judge someone if they don't have that same that same ethos we're looking at some people are going to memory they need those things around them to make those memories sort of almost become more real and they can look at that thing and go and that can cast a memory back and some people don't need that some people, the memories are just there

anyway and the thoughts are just there also you've got to remember that sometimes I think people sometimes those items and those things, artefacts they provoke something that maybe you don't want to think about that thing you don't want to think about that person

not in a bad way but it's just like it can be too upsetting so yeah as Rom says I think we shouldn't judge her but whether it's a mortgage or whether she just wanted something that meant something to her from that person. I think that's the cricket.

It's fake, isn't it? Yeah, it sounds like a hell of a fake Rolex. It's better than that fake one you used to have. What watch do you wear? Apple Watch all the way, baby. You're a Swatch guy, aren't you? I am a Swatch guy. You know what?

The thing about the Apple Watch is you can just never escape your phone. I had an Apple Watch for a while. You keep on just getting emails on your wrist. I've had it switched off. I just have it. Inescapable. I just like the physical and that sort of side of it. And I quite like the fact you can change it up.

Sometimes it can look quite sporty. Other times it can look quite... You can wear a little gold strap with it. I like the fact that, yeah. Remember when you were a kid and you used to have those, you'd have like a cutout of like somebody and you used to put different clothes onto it. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, I do remember that. That's what your watch is like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember I had a Rice Krispie watch for a while when I was a kid. Yeah. And you could get it by sending off the vouchers to Kellogg's. You had to have eight tokens and fill out the thing.

And I just sent the thing and included the tokens that I got on that box and hoped that they'd think I'm just such a loser kid they'd send the watch anyway, and they did. That's a hell of a grift. Yeah, it's a hell of a scam. So if you've got a time machine, you can take yourself back to the time when they were doing that kind of stuff. It's a handy of a scam so if you've got a time machine you can take yourself back to the time when they were doing that kind of stuff it's a handy little life hack

okay tom we're out okay well thank you for listening to the bonus episode you got two this week yeah please keep sending your emails in to the wolf not to the to wolf and al pod at gmail.com um it's a delight as always here for if we don't read your emails it doesn't mean we haven't read them we love getting your emails thank you so much you you make this show what it is and for that we are truly grateful thank you yeah and if we get over 150 emails romesh will not going to do the podcast peace out peace no respect bye-bye take care