Wolf and Owl - Ed Sheeran, Marriage Proposals and Sunderland
Episode Date: April 2, 2026Is Rom the new face of Sunderland? What does Ed Sheeran have to do with Tom’s marriage proposal? How often do you kiss your partner?It’s time for another email episode, where we discuss all the th...ings you’ve sent in to us, from photos of Rom spotted in a shopping centre to how to find that special someone, also good luck Numbat!Get involved! Send us your questions, pictures and more importantly videos to wolfowlpod@gmail.comA Ranga Bee Production in partnership with Platform Media. Chapters:00:00 Intro01:27 Proposals07:18 Kissing09:56 Wolf & Owl weddings11:44 Have you seen this man?18:55 Glass houses and sweet treats19:55 For Sunderland21:15 Life advice31:02 Get in touch Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Yeah, what do you want, beak or jaws, feathers or fur, sharp teeth or feet with claws, whatever's prefer, just kidding every word in his songs about two grown men dressed up as a bird and a dog.
Hello!
Hi, welcome to The Wolf and Al email episode, straight down the can.
Straight, what?
Straight down the can.
Straight down the can.
We read your emails, who interact with listeners and all that kind of stuff.
and
I would say more videos
would be nice
what do you mean
like people send a video
oh yes it's a good shout
I think like video
so we can sort of like
yeah
just watch the video
so we haven't got to read
the emails
yeah we could do that
if you want to send in a video
please do send it in
wolffowl pod at gmail.com
even if it's just saying
you're doing something
completely crazy
or a question
and also obviously
you know if it's a really deep question
that yeah
we'll have to show your face
yeah I'd love to go
and here's our first question
And then it just, it cuts to you, not you.
Yeah.
And not even you, but the hypothetical are you sort of delivering.
That would be sweet.
That would be, you could be part of the podcast.
Yeah.
I mean, you are part of the podcast if you just send in an email.
Yeah, but part of history.
Imagine the first video that we get.
Yeah, that'd be so sick.
Even if it's just you brushing your hair in the morning and thinking,
oh, what's the difference between teeth and toes?
Should we do the first one?
Hi, Wolf, Al, Swan and Gat.
I need help with a rough idea on what I should be saying during a proposal.
I've been my girlfriend for nearly five years.
We have a daughter in a house together.
And I've been out to buy a ring as I'm finally going to ask a question on a seven-year anniversary.
But seeing other people do it always seems they say more than just the words, will you marry me?
So I'm wondering, what should I say when I get down on one knee?
Do I just say the one line or give more than that?
We'd love to know what you both said in your proposals, love the pod, have been a long-time listener,
even through the alien episodes.
Thank you very much.
The nervous numbat.
I'm not a numbat.
I don't know.
I'm going to look up a numbat quickly.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I think it's a very nerve-wracking thing.
So, as we all know, that you proposed on a boat, didn't you?
Yeah, I mean, that is a part of my stand-up.
You know, I'm in a new tour.
There's a numbat.
Let me see.
That's the sort of thing I might get towed on my back.
So, yeah.
I'm not convinced that's how you pronounce it.
Numbat.
numb, numb, because it's numb, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah.
Could it be numb at?
I'll shut the fuck up, Ramesh.
Okay, go on, let's give some advice.
So, look, I think firstly, if you want to know how I propose, come and see my tour, Spuggan.
Oh, my God.
Do you think you will sell a single ticket based on that?
If you buy a ticket based on that, I will buy you dinner after the show.
That's so dumb.
Why?
Because you're then losing more money than you make from the ticket sale.
Okay, if...
If you buy a ticket based on this, I will buy you something nice, like a gift that's where we both do all right out of it.
Or I do a picture with you or I cuddle you.
I don't think you should be offering cuddle.
I'll phone you.
What about if I phone you?
Okay.
That's not a bad show.
Okay, okay.
How will you, first of all, just...
Contact the email on...
This shouldn't be going through Wolfowl at Gmail.
What?
No, this is your thing.
Okay, contact me on Instagram.
So I brought a ticket because of...
Purely as a result.
You should give them a code word to give you.
Okay, the code word is...
Do you know when we did...
Yeah, which is...
Mango.
...tokeshi Castle.
Which I said Mango.
And people still say Mango to me now.
Love it.
For people that don't know, at the end of one of the episodes,
we weren't convinced that anybody would be still watching.
So we said, if you are watching, say,
text us Mango or message us Mango,
for dinner.
Anyway, it turns out loads of people fucking watching.
It's Amazon.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Watch you right through.
So six months late, so we just did our last dinner, didn't we?
Saying fluff puff with a picture of you buying the ticket,
I will, yeah, I will phone you.
Where should they send that?
To my Instagram.
And then, and give your phone number as well.
And I'll phone you.
And I'll phone you.
And say, you probably should answer the email.
Okay, so look, for my, I would say proposal-wise,
number one, I found it very, very nerve-wracking.
You did yours as a rap, didn't you?
Could you do it for me now?
Do you remember it?
Yeah, so it was Ed Sheehan was singing in Lego House.
And it wasn't really a rap.
I just sang along.
Okay, go on.
I was like, I'm going to pick up the pieces of my broken heart.
If you say no to this marriage proposal,
which is what this is.
It's a marriage proposal.
I want you to be my bride.
Did you do with an Indian accent, though?
That was how I sing.
Yeah.
All songs sound like that when I sing them.
I didn't have any massive words.
I sort of, she was,
Catherine was, you know, on the front of this boat
looking out at the sea I came out,
I was absolutely fucking sweating, very nervous.
Yeah.
I got on one knee and said, like, you know.
Where was the ring?
I pulled it out of my back pocket.
Okay.
At the time...
Your swim shorts?
No, no, no, no, no.
It was, I had a very tight pair of sort of, like, yeah,
shorts on.
Yeah.
So she could pretty see the bulge of a ring
from the, as she's breathing six is at the back.
Yeah.
Even then she knew not to check out your ass.
Yeah.
And yeah, crackto, we had some champagne.
But yeah, word was, I think keep it simple.
Yeah, agreed.
I think keep it simple.
Keep it from the heart.
Like, I think I said, like, from what I remember, you were happy, you've made me the happiest person.
Well, I hope this lasts forever.
And would you be my bride?
Really nice.
Yeah.
What did you say to Lise, sweetlyish?
Shall we?
What did you say?
Said, shall we, baby?
Oh, really?
Yeah.
That's what you said.
Shall we?
No, in all honest, I think I was just very honest.
I think sometimes actually there's something nice about, like, you know, even if you have a bit of a stumble.
Yeah.
It's natural because you're expressing emotions.
Yeah.
And I think actually that's arguably better than having some really super polished thing.
Yeah.
I think sometimes if you make it, I think we get caught up too much in giving somebody a great story.
But also I think now that you've got, I think, like, there's so many, like, social media is, like, so many videos of people doing these amazing speeches.
these amazing songs and whatever.
And years ago, that wasn't a thing.
You know, you might have a funny story about it,
but for the most part,
I think people kept it simple,
and it was from the heart.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Also, I think it becomes a little bit,
who's it really about?
If you're making a real song and dance
and a real long speech,
isn't really become about the moment
rather than actually being like,
you're up for this.
Yeah.
No, totally agree.
We got shit faced afterwards,
which was really fun.
That's sweet.
We got really drunk together,
which was nice.
leveled out some cocktails.
Yeah.
Do you remember, how was the first kiss after?
With Lisa after, she said yes.
It wasn't, what do you mean?
No, I know, you kissed there before.
No, no, no, no, but like, it's a beautiful kiss.
Right, that moment of, like, you know, it's like it's in your top five love kisses.
I'm coming in, they don't have a kiss, girl.
When's the last, oh, we've all had this conversation.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kissing's done now, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but I think that's in my top five kisses.
Kissing so, pass, you know, people that's the same.
still kiss.
Do you know what I mean?
How often do you kiss, Lisa?
Huh?
How often do you kiss Lisa?
Not that regular.
Are you asking about sort of a passionate snog?
No, but like a nice kiss.
Well, when you say hello.
Yeah, but like a nice kiss.
What do you mean?
Like a nice...
Like a nice...
Like, show me what you mean?
Like a...
What, like long, like that?
Yeah.
That's not that long.
Jesus Christ.
How old's Charlie?
I don't know.
I can't really...
No.
not really not for a while so tell me to stop with your kissing chart okay
stop oh yeah okay about there okay on the face
what what like there or there or no on the lips oh on the lips oh yeah yeah show me yours
yeah oh my god that's quite a long time how often are you doing that
that's like it probably twice a day and how often's katherine there
waka waka twice a day you do a kiss that
length?
Yeah, we have a nice, yeah.
When?
When?
It depends if I'm in all day.
And then probably three.
But yeah, the morning and the evening.
So first thing in the morning?
No, usually, yeah, as I'm leaving for work.
Oh, okay.
Or we usually try and drop grace off together.
Yeah.
And we'll walk to the station, we'll have a nice kiss.
Do it?
Oh, that's really sweet.
And then when at night?
Like a soldier going off to war.
Yeah.
And at night, yeah, usually before we go to sleep.
I think it's a nice, those little moments of affection.
Really nice.
Like, you know, those little moments, little hand touches, little back touches.
Yeah.
They're nice.
Yeah.
Just to feel together.
Yeah.
Really sweet.
I've missed that with you actually touching you.
Not the kissing.
I gave you a kiss this morning.
We don't feel as close physically as we have done on this before.
We've been pushed them far apart.
Yeah.
I think that's somebody's responded to criticism.
Yeah, yeah, John's.
Because we're really fucking.
About the sexual.
Yeah.
There's a lot of sexual chemistry.
Okay.
Well, look.
So I'll answer to your question, Numbat.
God, that sounds so aggressive.
He said Numbat then.
That's what...
Yeah, I know, but you went, in answer your question, Numbat.
So, in answer your question, Numbat.
No, in answer your question, Numbat, speak from the heart.
Yeah.
Speak true.
Speak honest.
And let your emotions guide you through what we hope will be one of the most magical moments of your life.
Good luck.
As always.
Bon chance.
We say we'd love to see a picture of the two of you post...
As you're doing it.
Not as you just post, like, a big grin.
Well, if you know that you're like 10,
seconds out. Yeah, video it.
Yeah. And also, good luck with the
wedding. If you need two
crazy guys to turn up
across some mayhem and bedlam.
I knew two fellas were around.
Yes. Who are they?
In you, you're not case.
Oh, bloody hell. He's talking about us.
Okay, should we do the next one?
Do you know, I think we're quite close
to going to a wedding for the wolf now.
What do it? I think we knew. We're not going to go to
anybody. Let us be clear about us. I've so wanted to
do it. We're not coming to any of my wedding.
It's one of my life ambitions.
No, we're not coming to any. Are you saying this?
gone.
A hundred percent no.
100% no.
Well, 99% no.
I just think it would be fun for the first 10 minutes and then it's two people that don't know anybody at the wedding.
We stay for an hour.
We'd only go to the evening bit.
And do what?
Do what?
Do what?
Do what?
Talk me through walking into the wedding.
Okay, we're walking and going to go.
Didn't think we were going to show, hey?
Oh no.
All right.
Didn't think we were going to show, eh?
Because I said 99% sure I wouldn't.
Oh, man.
Fucking her.
It's Rommets and Tom.
Yeah, bradde.
Here we are.
What'd you call this music?
Tommy D, play some tunes.
And then I'd probably DJ.
You'd get onto the decks.
And then you'd sort of
be busting some moves and then you'd probably sort of do
all of your raps. And then like
we'd basically have a little bit of a dance.
Hello, number. Hello wife.
Just want to celebrate the rest of your
life. It's me and Tom
and we're here to say we're really honoured
to be on your special day.
Yeah, and then we just
probably have a buffet. I'd probably have a bit of a
laugh with somebody older relatives.
you'd be sort of hanging out with a kid.
Yeah.
Find Tom in the cupboard with a nana.
Yeah, and then, yeah, we just have it
half, then we go, plenty of it, well, that's fucking three and a half
hours. It felt like an hour. Yeah, it's not
going to happen. Okay, should we do the next one?
It would be great, though. Pardon?
I think it would be great. No, I don't think so.
Found this photo of Ramesh floating
around on Facebook and felt morally obligated
to send it in because it perfectly captures
the exact mood I imagine he's in for roughly
70% of his life. Or it's one
of them watch lists of have you seen this man?
Thought you might enjoy it, or at least Tom might enjoy,
Romish absolutely hating it.
Love the pod.
Keep it going.
Cheers,
Clay.
Shout out Craig, by the way,
for really absolutely sort of like coming in and really loving this new medium in which we're shooting.
Because he sent a photo.
Yeah, he sent a photo.
More photos, please, guys.
Should we have a look at the photo?
I think that's,
I've never seen you pull that face.
So hold on, is this a selfie with that woman?
No.
So this is in Sunderland.
That's the shopping centre in Sunderland.
Yeah.
And that was the last day that I was in Sunday.
So you're hanging out with your mate.
That's, so that lady, that lady next to me is Joe Hinton.
Yeah.
She's the company stage manager for the play I was in.
Okay, cool.
So I, I just met her for breakfast.
Right.
Yeah.
And then she said she wanted to get some cakes because it's everyone's last day in
Sunderland.
That's nice.
I think it was, I think it might mean show 100.
Okay.
So that's a sweet thing.
So that's why.
So I said to her.
Yeah.
And then I went there and, um, look, I'm not complaining.
Yeah.
but a lot of people
basically I've been asked to go into
lots of people were asking for photos
which said they couldn't leave their shop
right so I had to go into different shots
that's a nice thing though
because it is a nice thing
but I was getting bantered quite heavily
Sunderland, great place for banter.
Yeah I mean they were giving me a lot of shit
so they'd ask for a photo and then tell me
what they thought I'd done that was crap
oh really?
Like in a joky way
yeah what was the main thing
a nugget of truth?
Judge Romish what got the biggest kicking
of all the things that you've done that was shit
Um
the
uh
Robin Romish versus football
they didn't think the show was shit
they thought I was shit
Okay okay
Um
This podcast since it's moved to visual
Um
Big big listeners show
They asked me what I was doing
In a play
Yeah
Stuff like that
Do I mean look at the photo
I don't think you look moody actually
What do you think I look
I look?
I don't know
I think you look quite surprised
More than anything else
Well that that was a photo
taken by the woman
That runs the cake stand
Okay
I don't know why I didn't
I don't really oh no hold on it wasn't
it was Sunderland
John what's the name of Sondland Shopping Centre
Do you know?
No
Anyway it's Sondland Shopping Centre
John by the way is a shopping centre
enthusiast
No he's from Newcastle
He loves all shopping centres
He face John of a weekend
John single
And he'll go to different shopping centres
During the winter month
In autumn he'll go to different shopping centres
in England
And then in the summer he'll go to big European ones
And what's your favourite one John
Crawley's County Mall
Correct.
The best.
Yeah.
You love it there, John.
Failing that, Horsham, Swan Walk.
You can often see John, he'll go to a food court.
About 3pm and have a coffee and a Ben's cookie.
Do you remember when you used to regularly get ice cream from Baskin and Robbins?
No.
Did you ever do that?
No.
You know, Basking and Robbins used to have like the little, every shopping centre they had like a Baskin.
Then you go in there, get two scoops, get some marshmallows.
I still have.
How often do you have ice cream, by the way?
Never.
Really?
I said once a week, take grace for ice cream.
I can't think of last.
I mean, the boys have ice cream all the time.
Yeah, I love ice cream.
I think it's just, there's some of joyous about an ice cream.
Yeah, it's beautiful.
Yeah, really beautiful.
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Anyway, no shade on Sunderland.
No, great place.
It's a great place and the people were great.
Can I say, I think that isn't the most flattering picture of you I've ever seen.
You look more shocked than anything.
Yeah, yeah.
That was, sorry, so to get back to the point.
Yeah.
I think Sunderland Shopping Centre had heard I was in the mall.
Yeah.
And they sent to like people that were in charge.
charge of Sunderland Shopping Centre PR to take a photo of me and that's what that photo is.
That's the one of you using for PR.
Well, they only took one photo.
What?
They were like, can we take a photo for the shopping center?
That's why, that's why Craig has got hold of it because they've put it online.
Can we see that picture again, please?
That is the picture that they're using to promote the shopping center.
Oh, my God.
Like, number one, how, sorry, how did they, how did they even,
address, they didn't say that I were taking a picture clearly because that...
They did say.
Can I say, I've seen you take hundreds, thousands of pictures, right?
I've never, ever seen you give that look.
Like usually I would say, you look, you're a good, you take, and this is a, I think,
a very credible attribute within your wheelhouse.
I think when people want a selfie of you, you're always very gracious and you do a nice selfie.
That is the only picture I've ever seen of you where you look, you don't look, you don't
like you're giving the schstick, the moody stick.
I just look pissed off.
I don't, I don't even pissed off.
You look like you've never,
someone's had to explain to you what a selfie is or what a picture is.
No, no.
Can I just say, I wasn't actually pissed off at any point during this day.
No.
So I don't know why it looks like I'm furious that I'm having a photo taken of me.
But I think I was surprised when they said,
because basically said, can we have a photo?
And because of like all the other photos there,
I assumed they wanted to have a photo with me.
Yeah.
But they went like this, can have a photo?
And I went, yeah, and then they just went like that.
Oh, my God.
So that's what, that's kind of what.
What's it?
By the way, shout out for her.
She's, that's, that's a really nice picture of her.
Yeah, Joe looks great.
Joe's, she's, she's,
Joe looks like the sort of person I'd just literally go for sage advice from.
Well, actually, I just advised Joe previous to this moments before this photo on the purchase of a hoodie.
Oh, really?
So we'd had a really nice moment.
Yeah, yeah.
Some shopping advice.
It's a very nice, sensible jacket she's got on.
Yeah.
Reassuring.
Like the sort of person would be good on a school trip.
But that, that, that, I would say, if you didn't know me,
Can I say that also they didn't even clear
I mean the old lady on your right shoulder
Bless her heart
She's now into Sunderland folklore
She's into their biggest press promotion
They've done in years
And she's in that picture
Unwittingly
Yeah I mean it's unfortunate
Cue in for cakes
Yeah it's not the my proudest moment
No but you're now the face of Sunderland
Shopping Centre
I wasn't really in a bad mood
But it does look like I was in a bad mood
I think it looks like it looks like
more like, yeah, what's going on? I just can't believe they've used
that photo. If I
was you, can I just say, yeah, you get it taken
down. No, I'd just get a train up there and say, look, let's
do this properly if we're going to do it. If you want me to be the face
of sun. Really? No, it's not. I'm joking.
But it was nice. Crowds were great.
Sunfield Empire's a beautiful theatre. Can I say that they
went out to Tetonic
in Sunderland, quite nice? Can I say they clearly
respect you and love you in Sunderland? Yeah, they do.
The least that you, even if you just
took a picture of you in another shopping centre that it looked
like, get a picture of you next to
Millie's cookies or something like that.
They don't have Amelis cookies.
All right.
So just get a picture of you in a shop and say, I like this.
I'm sitting on a bench.
Yeah.
Well, actually there's another picture that the cake stand took me.
Right.
Carrying loads of boxes of the cakes.
Then just say, can you, I bet you're smiling in that.
You love your cakes.
No, but you do.
Vegan cakes.
I bet you're absolutely.
By the way, the glass house you've constructed yourself to throw stones from.
It's fucking unbelievable.
work from you.
The man
who exhibits
the sort of jealousy over a donut
that you might do over a partner
is telling me that I
fucking love cakes.
Are you taking the fucking piss out of bits?
You love a cake, right?
It's like you having a go at me
for being a bald white guy.
Oh,
I think let's get on top of that.
Let's get that picture.
Get flow on it, maybe.
If anybody is watching or listening from Sunderland Shopping Centre, I would love to...
Actually, do you know what?
I'm making the offer now.
I'll do you an endorsement video.
Wow, that would be...
We could shoot it here.
Because I had a great time there.
It was wonderful.
Beautiful Sunland.
I'd love to do a great video.
If you're in the Sunderland area and you like shopping, head over to the shopping centre.
Do you not even know the name of the shopping centre?
Can we look it up, please?
To go to the shopping centre?
The worst...
All right.
If you're in Sunderland and you like shopping.
Why don't you go over to the shopping centre?
I don't remember it being called the Bridges.
Can we see a photo of it, please?
You must know quite a bit.
It's busy at the most of the time.
I went in there once, Brian.
Oh, that's...
That's it.
That's nice.
That's a good honest...
Yeah, that's the one.
That's a nice...
Looks a bit like Dundee's shopping centre, actually.
If you find yourself in the Sondland area,
why not head over to the Bridges Shopping Centre?
You'll find yourself a lovely selection of retailers,
as well as a nice smile behind the counter of everyone.
I strongly recommend, I went there while I was
performing at the Sundland Empire
for women in mind. And I've got to tell you
I had some great performances, but
the highlight was my visit to
Bridges Shopping Centre. See you there.
Let's have had a cakes.
The cakes are great.
And there's always people ready to have
a chat and give you a little bit of that old
famous Sunderland banter.
See you there, friend.
The British Shopping Centre
Ramesh's favourite place
to go.
There we go. That's good. There you go. You can have that, guys.
I give permission to clip that up and stick it on your old tincting.
Okay.
Cool.
Should we do another one?
Hope you both well and great to have you back.
It's perfectly time for me as I could use some advice from some sweet, sweet souls.
Don't need to be anonymous, but please do not use my last name.
I don't think that was written with a chuckle in it.
Okay.
Sorry, I was just going with a different energy.
Okay, I know, but just try and have...
Don't need to be anonymous, but please.
Not my last name.
Okay, that's too.
obviously to the far the other way and you know that.
I'm a 28 year old guy and currently single.
I've always been someone who enjoys being in a relationship
and a companionship it brings
and am yet to find the one.
Recently I've been through another phase of dating
where I met someone great
but for timing and circumstance,
it hasn't worked out.
No one's fault. Just one of those.
But I take it very hard.
Work feels like it doesn't matter every day.
The joy from our hobbies
feels dulled. I don't have a lot of friends close by, some great ones at a distance,
but often leaves me feeling lonely, and I struggle to make new ones, no kids or other sort of
avenues to do so. You too are great role models for men who are in touch with their feelings
and who perhaps worked out a lot of their lives a bit after the age I'm at now, which is something
positive for me. When things were tough, particularly romantically, if ever, hard to believe
for two beautiful men, how did you manage to pull through and how should someone
who is maybe a bit worn down by the adversity,
keep believing and working towards the good things
that could come one day.
Hope, glad you're back.
Thanks in advance for any help.
By the way, I massively regret starting that email
in such a weird.
Fucking insane.
Yeah, I know, I need to better that.
I sort of knew that, I had a feeling that's where it was going.
I didn't.
I completely misread the situation
and I hope that actually, towards the end, David.
I would like to take this opportunity to say to you,
I know that you don't like reading out loud.
Yeah.
doing it really beautifully since you and I really admire you for doing that.
Thank you.
I don't want to sound patronising.
Oh, thank you very much.
I like it.
So anyway, my friend, I think that the truth of the matter is I think you're probably at an age and I think most of us go.
To be fair, I think at 46, I've weirdly found myself recently, I think in that place where you're, I've almost sort of come to just almost a realisation of that just like friendships that have sort of fallen away and, and, and, you're, I've almost sort of come to a realisation of that just, like, friendships that have sort of fallen away and,
and like, you know, distance friendships or whatever,
you know, people that used to speak to a lot,
not speaking to quite as much.
I think it's really, really hard when you're going through those sort of changes
and realizing people, you know, growing in different directions,
growing up, people are having kids getting married,
and sometimes you feel like you're falling behind.
I spent most of my 30s really feeling quite a lot like that.
And even by the time, I think you actually sort of get in a relationship
and you're with someone,
I think there's always another milestone
that people sometimes feel they're getting to before you.
You can feel like you're lagging behind a little bit.
I'd say that a lot of focus,
I've wasted a lot of time in my life,
worrying about those things.
You know, up until meeting Catherine,
would I meet the one?
And, you know, you sort of say about having relationships
that haven't worked,
or I had so many of those.
I had so many times where, you know,
I'd been what I thought was the relationship
and had split up with someone.
and quite a lot of the time take that a lot harder, I think,
than the other person involved in a relationship for whatever reason.
And I think actually it's all a part of the course.
I think also, by the way, the idea that you meet someone
and all those feelings and all that stuff go away
is kind of a fallity in itself.
I think that actually, like, I, you know, even now,
I'm having therapy and the different things that I go through
and I'm talking about weekly is like, oh shit,
there's remnants from old relationships,
both romantically or just friendships.
I think you're constantly, you know,
holding onto stuff.
And I think the best advice I could probably give you
is to be as easy on yourself as you can be.
I know it sounds corny and it probably,
but I do think, you know,
what's meant to be,
won't pass your by.
I do think if there's a person out there that's right for you,
you'll find that person.
I don't know.
Things are different.
And I realize, you know,
in the way I met, Catherine was a, you know,
whole school way was and I know that the world is changing to sort of apps and whatever but I think
I do I do believe that I think if you let yourself open you're easy with yourself and you don't put
too much pressure on you to find the one and I mean this not just again romanticly I mean I think in life
you can actually just pressure yourself into thinking this friendship has to be perfect this relationship
has to be perfect and you can question yourself for validation all the time and actually I think
just being easier on yourself trying to
be the best version of you can every day you step out of your door try to be as good to people around you
try to be as nice as you can and just try to as soon as it sounds to to be a good person and to be open to new
relationships I think so many people and this is chatting to mates and man and FEMA who tend to close
off relationships so so quickly because they just don't think that that's the one and you know
I've got no doubt that Catherine questioned whether I was a one right up until well probably still does
Yeah, she's saying me yesterday.
But I think actually
starting that relationship and find out that stuff
and there's going to be ups and there's going to be downs
and there's going to be moments that you question whether it's the right one
but actually going through that stuff and going,
oh no, you know what, this is the best thing in my life.
This is the, you know, that takes time
and it also takes just, you know,
releasing a little bit of that pressure from yourself.
So I hope things work out.
I hope you find someone.
I hope you don't sit too long on a heartbreak in which
you're in now and you
see like a nice guy
so I wish you well and if we can
help any other way shout us my friend
thank you so much for your email
I think
there is something that
like if you read any kind of
philosophy or
anything like that or any kind of life
advice is that we have
an instinctive nature
to look at what's
from our life and obsess upon that or find something to agonize over. So, you know, you could be in a
situation where your job's going well, socially things are going well, but you don't have a partner,
and then suddenly that becomes a be all and end all of your existence. And the truth is you're not
defined by your relationships. And, you know, a lot of it is to do with like we kind of, we are
put under societal pressure to have a house by this age, to be settled in a job by this age,
to be locked in with a partner by this age. And all of those things actually,
truth are fake. It's like a, it's like a construct that you, you know, you get put all these
pressures on you think. And so it actually gives, it's actually become something for you to
fail by, you know, you sort of, you sort of go, I should be here, I should be here, I should be here.
And actually a lot of our misery comes from the difference between where our lives are
at and where we feel they should be. That's where most of your kind of discomfort lives.
And so actually, the truth is, is that, in my opinion, you need to,
or what would help you is to stop obsessing about it
and to kind of think about the things that you do have in your life
and things that are going well
and be grateful for those.
I'm not saying you being ungrateful now,
but we do have a tendency to not appreciate the things we do have
and start to really obsess about things we don't.
And that is true of everybody.
You know, like Tom and I have had conversations in the past
where like your career is not where it's supposed to be
your relationships aren't where they're supposed to be.
Maybe you're not socialising as much you should do
and you start obsessing about those things.
So I would say take a little bit of the pressure off.
You know, we can get into a discussion.
You know, I could talk all day long about the concept of the one
and whether you should be putting all of your hopes and dreams
into finding one person on this planet that is destined to be the person for you.
I mean, whether that is true or not is a subject for massive debate.
But I think that if you ease the pressure off of it,
because at the moment what you're doing is you're obsessing over it so much
that every day that that doesn't happen
is another piece of evidence
for you to file away
as a reason for it to never happen.
And as long as you're thinking like that,
you're going to put more and more pressure on it.
And then when you do meet somebody,
you might be putting so much pressure on it
because you're so obsessing about this being the person
that you spend the rest of your life with,
that you break it.
You know, so I would say,
look at the things that you do have.
Try and enjoy those.
And if you are genuinely feeling lonely
aside from a relationship,
You do, and you want more friends, you have to sort of put yourself out there a little bit in a way that might feel unusual, you know, looking to see what social groups are out there or getting into something that involves regularly meeting up and stuff like that. I think those are things that you can help you. And then if you're happier elsewhere, then you'll find that a relationship will come your way. But don't be defined by the fact of being in a relationship. It's tricky when you get to a certain age and people are all settling down and then you feel like you should be settling down. You know, you have these.
phases of life where you're going to weddings and then you're going to like christening's and all that
kind of stuff it's hard if you're not in that same stage but absolve yourself of that pressure and you know
life your path is your own you know and life moves at the pace that it moves at don't not enjoy it
because you're looking at other people's paths and comparing yourselves to them that's where misery lies
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