Wolf and Owl - Ep 63: Home Haircuts & Restaurant Beef

Episode Date: March 16, 2022

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Inside the raid, yes. My guy. Hello. My dude. You're looking good, boy. You're looking cool and licked up. You look like someone's given you a polish. Well, I just finished on Avoidance, this show that I'm doing.

Yeah. And I had to have, similar to when I did King Gary, actually, I seem to have this run of playing characters that are going through some sort of trauma or they look disheveled. So I've had to have my sort of hair and beard looking a bit tragic.

So the second I was able to, I got it cut. But listen. Did you just quickly though, when you went in the barbers, were you like super like, yeah, I'll just sort this out

and just kick back in the chair, cross your legs and just let him do his work? What do you mean? Instead of what? Rather than telling him what to do? No, just like having a little,

you know, like I just get this vision of you going in, you've got your Air Force ones on, you know, pair of nice jeans, like fucking don't pass jacket and jumper combo. Cap, you've got your Air Force ones on, you know, pair of nice jeans, like fucking dope-ass jacket and jumper combo, cap, you pull your cap off,

your hair's a little bit wild, and the barber looks and goes, fucking hell, mate, what's going on there? And you're like, ah, I've just been doing a roll, mate. Make me look fresh as fuck. Oh, God. Nice opening salvo from the wolf there, thank you Actually, do you know what?

I tend to avoid going to the barbers Really? Yeah, so I try and like I try and like encourage them to come to my house basically What? Are you joking? Oh my god That's the ritziest fucking thing

that's what all footballers and Kanye West and people like that have done no but it's just like no but it's just

you know there's no just you have a private barber come to your home no it's not a private does he do the kids hair as well

no the kids go to the barber what you have three sons a barber comes to your house and you don't like yeah but I think

they need to they need to have that experience it's a bit different isn't it they like it it's like a day out yeah I know I love it it's a day out for me

mate I haven't got any fucking hair and I relish going to the fucking barbers I enjoy it is that bad have I lost touch have you lost touch you're sitting in your private studio mate basically you know what you are fractions away lost touch. You're sitting in your private studio.

Mate, basically, you know what? You are fractions away from having staff. Can I tell you something? Can I just ask you something? Have you got a gardener? No, listen. The silence speaks a thousand words. No, we don't have a gardener. We don't.

You mow your own lawn. Do I mow my own lawn? No, because we don't actually currently, we currently don't have proper grass. It's just been put. So when I went silent there, it's because we've got someone sorting out the garden. Oh, yeah, that's fine.

You've got landscaping. That's different. If you've got somebody who turns up every week and he's like doing like, planting pascalias and whatever and then knocks on the door and says, oh, do you want to... Yeah, but is that a bit...

My mum has that. Well, someone who comes and does... Yeah, I don't know, man. My garden's a state because I've done it. Maybe I should... I've got...

Right. A friend of mine comes and mows my lawn. But that's... Okay, so how does that make you... So you get friends... No, he's starting up a business and he's...

Okay, and you pay him, do you? Yeah, I adore him. Okay, fine. But, like, why does it make it different? Because you like the bloke. No, because he's a friend. Listen, you've got a gardener. That's completely out of order.

Whereas I know my gardener. So that makes it completely different. I've still got... Okay, okay. I've still... I've not forgotten my roots. Because I actually happen to know my gardener. Right, okay.

What are you talking about? Right, the minute you turn around to me and went, oh, I took my barber to the fun fair, then I'll go, all've not forgotten my roots because I actually happen to know my garden. What are you talking about? The minute you turn around to me and went, oh, I took my barber to the fun fair, then I'll go, oh, fair enough. There's more to Romesh

than meets the eye. Okay, well, how about this? Do you know the night that I, do you remember I told you the night that I fell over

and spilt all my drinks everywhere? Well, to be fair, Romesh, there's been a couple of those recently. Yeah, but you know, like the one where I fell flat? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was out, my barber was out with me that night.

He was out with me. Really? Yeah, with crew. So basically, you've got an entourage. Who's Romesh out with? His barber, his PT. It turns out he doesn't actually have any real friends. This is Gardner Pete. Well, you want to

rubbish this, mate? No, no, no. Ladies patio, about six months ago. He'll bring us out once a month. I do like this barber. Can you smell fertilizer? Oh, sorry, guys. No, it's just I couldn't have a proper scrub before we came out. So, here we go, mate.

Here's 150 quid for doing all the planting of those pots. And here's 400 quid for all the nights out this month. Get yourself a couple of drinks. You can take that off the lawn striping, if you like. Whatever you're sad for. How long have you used the barber for? What, that comes to my house? Yeah.

Well, on and off, really. Sometimes I go, I do. Sometimes I do go in, right? But the truth is, honestly, I'm not just saying this. I just haven't got time to get my hair cut during office hours. Look, I... Well, you don't get it, do you? Because you sort of started laughing your head off.

No, no, no. I've never had less respect for you in my life. No, no, no, no, no. Look, I still think it's a pretty ritzy life choice. But I've got a skull shaver. It doesn't cost me more than a regular haircut. Yeah, but I can literally just do my hair myself, right? I've got a skull shaver. Boom. I just do that do that the skull shaver that gives you the cleanest freshest

cut you can ever have as a bald man all right uh for you it maybe is different also you know it's probably like you probably he comes around you know he spends an hour cutting your hair or whatever it takes to cut your hair and then you know you play on the xbox or whatever and then he shuffles off into the night. Yeah. In the end, it's sort of a little bit like he's sort of asking. Well,

I've got, actually, I've got to get on mate because the kids are sort of, I promised him we'd get a takeaway. Oh, right. You sure? Oh,

okay. That was the takeaway situation, by the way. What do you mean? Like, do you know where I live? I've just got Uber Eats. So I've had McDonald's for Sunday tea. I've hadber eats so i've had mcdonald's for sunday tea

uh i've had quite uh i've had sort of a little bit of uh i told you basically i've been i've been doing tour shows at the weekend yeah yeah and um i i've got into a habit of of trying of this is a finding a wagamama's wherever i'm on tour because I sort of because I know that I know that Wagamama's the Vegatsu is a go-to right yeah it's for me yeah obviously yeah yeah yeah yeah so Vegatsu's my go-to right but I ended up doing a load of tour shows in a row and I started to think I could it was diminishing returns I mean I started to get the Vegatsu and think oh I don't know about this I started trying to mix it up a little bit remix it getting a little tub of chilies throwing them in nice get a bit of kimchi throw that in i mean and then i thought maybe actually

the problem isn't isn't the the garnishes maybe the problem is the dish i need to think about getting something else right so i had a couple of experiments and ordered different things from wagon mums and this is what i think how many what's the vegan options there like they get there's loads there's loads shout out wagon mommas yeah there's loads but i've complained about wagon mommas in my insta in my last stand-up tour i did an extensive routine extensive it's about five minutes about um how i don't like the eating experience at wagamamas you know i'm with you i'm with you man yeah i just find that i just find it so but but i do love the food all right so anyway they um so i experimented have you ever had real ramen before like from

a proper ramen place though like i'm just saying no like you know I like that rustic feel of going in somewhere and you're like oh man these people know what ramen really is okay

what I would say to you on that is is I do agree with you I do agree with you yeah okay this is the thing I want to support

I think it's the right thing to do is to support independent restaurants yeah 100% that's the right thing to do these places set up and often you'll find a much better version of a dish that you like you know rather than it being commercially made to suit all palettes you get this real specific strong thing the problem is is before a tour show i get nervous about rolling the dice on the place i'm completely with you on

i've got so you feel you feel so you feel like morally corrupt on it because you see a place and you go, okay, this does do that sort of stuff. But I would say, I reckon, we've done it on the tour where we've gone, let's support an independent place. Dennis, the sound guy on the tour,

he's fucking really all about that, right? He's like a proper morally sound guy, really ethical dude. And he's like, Romh, I think we should... I'd love to just shake him by the hand right now. Yeah, yeah, sure. I'm sure he'd love... I'd be absolutely delighted to...

In fact, you're going to meet him, Tom, because he's doing the sound for the Hackney show. Wow, wow, wow. Dennis, shout out Dennis. And I will sit with you and I will break bread, brother. Yeah, okay, great. So Dennis is like, let's just go somewhere independent. And I would say 45 45 to 50 percent of

the time we have a shocker not a shocker but yeah and then and the other 50 percent of the time you find something great do you mean you find something really really great but the problem is we were doing we did this at the when we were doing the apollo shows we were doing that and what would happen is, the disappointment and heartbreak, when the delivery ends up being rubbish, and you think, okay,

I don't know, but I think I've got to just, But also, do you think there's lying on the stars, like, because sometimes, I'm, mate,

I'm completely with you, when I'm away filming, right, when we were in Liverpool, I was up in Liverpool for like, what, nearly three months, right?

And I'm like, well, exactly that, I want to support local places, like, I'm up, yeah, I was up in Liverpool for like, what, nearly three months, right? And I'm like, well, exactly that. I want to support local places. Like you can easily, you know, and me and, uh,

shout out my guy, Sipa. Like we'd be like looking at the amount of times where we, we do an order on Deliveroo for like this chicken or whatever. We were like, oh, this is sick. This is amazing.

We've got to make, and then literally sat there once for an hour and a half waiting for this chicken. And then we just got a text saying, oh, actually, no, this restaurant's not like, it's not doing food anymore right we can't do we can't

do right so there's a part of me that's but i just while you're talking like you're talking right i need to say something about you know when you get a restaurant like an independent restaurant that you love and adore right and you go there all the time and you like what you're talking about wagon mamas in the sense that you go somewhere, you go, you're going to wagon mamas. That's your thing at the moment. Me and Catherine had a restaurant locally, right? That we were like,

Oh, this is fucking incredible, man. This place is our place. Like, you know, uh, it's just like literally every, every thoughtless,

the staff and thoughtless of food is we took friends. Uh, they do like tapas, English sort of cuisine. We took friends there recently. Right. First time we've taken friends there. To say it was an embarrassment was...

It was like everything was fucked. It was an absolute shit show. The food was terrible. The service was absolutely awful. And you know when you're just sitting there thinking, what's happened here? It's like a footballer when they're playing incredibly, right? And you're like, oh, wow, he's just going to go.

He'll win everything. He's going to be the top scorer this season. And then all of a sudden he stops scoring goals. Yeah. I think you do have to accept some of the blame for your analysis of that night, if you don't mind me saying. Why? Well, because I know what will have happened,

and I think everybody listening knows what will have happened. What will have happened is you and Kat will have been eating at this restaurant and you're sort of enjoying it. And you start becoming slightly proud of the fact that this is your little hidden jewel that you found, this little restaurant that you go to all the time. Mate, I've told so many people how good it is. Yeah, of course you have. Of course you have.

It's become an anecdote for you. I've been in other restaurants eating locally and told them how good the fucking restaurant is. Oh, that's a really fucking disrespectful thing to do in someone's place of business. Well done. So you've got all excited about this thing and then you've been chatting to friends about it,

I'm sure telling anecdotes. Honestly, this place, you won't have heard of it. It's just tucked away. And what's the mad thing about it? Never really that busy. Our friends travelled. Our friends travelled nearly 100 miles to come for food. Yeah, because you would have bragged about it.

You and Kat would have enjoyed your little story. I had to step in here. I'll tell you what, you must. Honestly, Kat, tell them, you must come. I had to step in and say it was probably 90% me. Let me tell you something. It's worth it. It's okay.

It's fine. So then what happens is, and this, by the way, the reason I'm saying this to you is partly because it's how I feel when I take a non-vegan to a vegan restaurant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that what happens is that then you then start to, it's like when you put on a film for someone that you've recommended, the pressure is increased, right? the pressure on that situation increased you want the

service to be bang on you want the food to be amazing and then what's happened is you've sat down to eat the certain that your friends have looked slightly unimpressed with the service you've recommended all the honesty this look put the menu put the menu down i've got this i've got this trust me you don't want to allow me allow me and then you've ordered a load of stuff they started eating and you've looked at you and cat nervously looking around thinking oh my god they don't seem to be as overwhelmed as i'd hope they'd be and then you started like developing this narrative in your head no no no how normally because what you don't want is your friends to think you've got unsophisticated power. I hated this and it was absolute, I was like, oh my God, this is a fucking shit show.

We fucking, we have absolutely fucked this. And you know what, I, the worst thing of it all is, as I was leaving, I looked at the manager and the manager looked at me and it was like, it was like a bad day. You know, he knew. How did you, how did you, how did you broach

this with your friends? Did you tell them as it was happening that you were disappointed in what was going on? Yeah, I know. Did I broach it? They said. They travelled to get there. They really looked forward to the food.

They were like, you know, look, there's certain things that it's impossible to hide, right? Certain things. One of those things, Romesh, is if you're eating food that's underwhelming. Because it's like a crocodile smile.'s all with your teeth not with your eyes like you can look at someone and go oh they're not enjoying this meal and neither am i to be fair i mean when i'm enjoying food i don't tend to smile what of course you smile when you're eating

saying that you're like mate as soon as you touch that first bite you go oh grin grin and enjoy it that's the like everything's a performance of you isn't it you can't just do anything real

no it's not a performance why can't you just why can't you just why can't you just enjoy the food for what it is instead of you

gotta fucking eat the food and put on a show this is your show isn't it this is the thing you do right and then someone goes up and goes really anxiously and put on a show for everyone. This is your show, isn't it? This is a thing you do, right? And then someone goes up and goes,

really anxiously, are you enjoying that? Yeah, yeah, it's nice. Well, tell your fucking face. You look like... You're sitting there all fucking sour, that sour look on your face. Tom, Tom, this isn't a fucking... When I go out to eat,

I don't try and recreate a 90s Harvester's advert. All right? We're just... We're all fucking grinning and laughing inanely. Like, this is the most orgasmic time of our lives. Right? What do you do? What do you do?

You just sit there. Obviously, you smile a bit, but I'm not fucking eating food, grinning like a fucking lunatic the whole way through the meal. I don't grin that way. I'll stop grinning right when I'm like, like when I'm chewing and stuff.

And then I'll... And then after you finish, you start grinning again. You're just not fucking mental. This is only for food that I really enjoy, by the way. This is only for food. Yeah.

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We had an email in, didn't we, a while ago from a guy that didn't like the way his girlfriend ate and the way her family ate and everything. But like, I've heard it. You know when people are sort of overly vocal about how much they're enjoying the food? Yeah, yeah. I can do that. Mmm. Oh.

Oh. That is, mmm. No, try a bit of that. Mmm. Oh, that is... No, try a bit of that. What I've realised though, Ron, is probably 25%, 30% of food is going to make you feel like that. And that's when you get those moments, you really have to enjoy them. I would agree with you.

This is what I do think, okay? This is genuinely what I think. Genuinely what I think. Everything I'm saying is genuine, I think. But I just need to... This needs a little bit of background. Okay. So during, during the filming of avoidance.

Yeah. Okay. My character dresses sort of a bit tragically. Yeah. And when you dress tragically, you don't give a thought to how your clothes look on your body of your dimensions. Right. So what I'm saying is a lot of the stuff some of the stuff wasn't that flattering yeah like you know he's not he's not wearing a shirt

to mask his sins like you and i do in real life right so i mean you're preaching to the converted if you go and watch the curse or king gary i think it's fair to say i don't think i've ever done anything where i'm wearing anything yeah it's a bit but i know that we're doing that for the role yeah and i know that we're doing that for the role. Yeah. And I know that you're doing it for the role. It still feels, there is something about looking like that that makes you feel weak. Not weak is the wrong word.

Yeah, I'm not exactly like that. But you feel sort of embarrassed the whole time. Do you know what I mean? Anyway. So there was a scene where I had to like, I had to basically tuck my son into bed. Right? Right. Okay. So i sat down on the edge of the bed i have a little chat with him i do the thing i walk out as a first take of the scene

yeah ben green the director who you know very well yeah my mate he goes to me um they go he goes cut we walk out and he goes uh in this scene i'm wearing a shirt right just a shirt done up okay and jeans and he goes to me, I think, um, on the next take, when you sit down, you should have your legs out straight in front of you.

Right. And I thought, that's a weird, that's a weird creative note. Right. And I said to him, why? And he goes,

I just think you'd be happier with that. Right. And then as, as he's saying that one of the costume girls is like fucking sprinting through the set to buy me. That was, he watched it on the monitors and they've gone, we've just had a chat.

We just had a chat with the department and we think you should wear the shirt open over your t-shirt. And I, and I go, Oh right. How come? And they go, just,

I just think you'd be happier with that. And so basically what's happened is we've done, we've done the first take of the scene and they've had to they've had to have an emergency meeting because i look so fucking horrendous in this fuck in a shirt it's not even in a fucking it's not like i'm wearing a mankini it's a shirt a regular shirt that normal humans wear right it's show-stoppingly awful on my body so anyway after that i start to think fucking hell i need to again you know it brings up the old yeah of course the ongoing old issues right so i start so i'm doing i'm doing tour shows in the evening because i was doing the apollo run i'm doing the show in the day so very difficult to find time to exercise.

So I think to myself, I need to change my diet a little bit. So I end up downloading the Paul McKenna I Can Make You Thin app. Oh, no. You know what? There was a thousand and one things I was thinking you were going to say you'd downloaded. The best version was Chris Hemsworth center, which is brilliant for you could do a 15 minute thing in your lunch break,

but Paul McKenna. Oh my God. So anyway, so it's this thing where you've got to follow this. Paul McKenna is essentially, by the way, like anyone who grew up around the way and you get a fucking idiot who comes up to you in the pub and you're talking about

I don't know you're going oh I need a laptop and someone goes I can get you a laptop and you're like oh really yeah yeah

that way I can get it sorted I can get it sorted eight months down the line you're still fucking waiting for it that's Paul McKenna he's a bullshit in the pub he's got it fucking run it nice

well I'd be worried about insulting a hypnotist mate if I was you well I'm never going to see him am I well you're not but you might see one of his followers

he's convinced to execute you well yeah and then fucking we've just talked about it here so he'll be done for won't he what do you mean

and I'll just close my eyes if I see anyone like that yeah okay fine he might go to prison for it but you'll be dead

what a way to go yeah what a hell of a way to go just some guy so be fair they've made a film about a tiger kid they'll make a film

about Paul McKenna sending a hypnotised hitman to come and kill me, wouldn't they? Hypno hitman on ITV2. So anyway, one of the things, what a long story this is, by the way. But one of the things it said was to not look at screens or anything when you're eating, right? And I think you're, I think,

I know that you eat in front of the tv i know you do yeah but i also know that you relish your food right yeah i think if you sit and like actually set your meal up properly have a think about getting it all right and everything like that you know you know getting all your condiments sorted out you season that shit properly take a bit of time with it, and then sit and just eat. You can have conversation, obviously. I reckon it adds 20, I genuinely believe it adds 20%

to your enjoyment of the meal. I totally believe that. It's a game changer. You know what, I think you could be right. I had a curry Saturday night, right? Yeah. And we sat and ate it. We had like,

we put the baby down. It was like, right, she's going through this fucking leap that no one warned me about. No one warned me about the leap, the baby down it was like right she's going through this fucking leap that no one warned me about when no one warned me about the leap

the baby's leaps like when they go through these fucking transitions in like sleep regression and stuff so me and Catherine were like let's have a quick curry

that's just sit chill it's one of the things that we enjoy the most in our like you know but we sat and we just watched

something on TV we didn't really talk because we were both so tired and it was the first time I've had a fucking curry in so long and I'm just like, I didn't really even enjoy that because I was just sat there just like shoving it in my face. Usually when we have a takeaway curry, we don't ever have the TV on.

We make it like a bit, you know, it sounds fucking sad, but it's like a Saturday night. We'll sit, we'll chat, we'll talk for the week. We're literally just, I was like, there was no enjoyment there. So I'm with you on that. Maybe I was about paul mckenna all along sure i mean listen well no no i stopped doing the thing to be honest i didn't have the discipline to do it but that is the thing that was my takeaway from that excuse the pun wow hello i think we've just found the clip for the episode I think we've just found the clip for the episode.

By the way, I don't know how much detail you want to go into this, but you've been having a tough week, haven't you? Oh, mate, it's been a hard week. You know what? It's the thing of, like, it's been a week of, like, it's the most amazing thing, like parenthood, having a baby. She's just incredible. And like,

you know, every time I feel it, don't go into too much detail. Cause I know you sort of gave all the gold of this story over to, uh, the parenting podcast. I'd hate for you to, to repeat.

They've asked me to be a monthly guest. Um, no, it's just been like, it's been a lot this week of like, uh, we've had just one of those weeks where it's just been like it's been a lot this week of like we've had just one of those weeks where it's just been

a number of different things have happened in at home where you're like you know where sometimes you're like fucking hell like it just feels like

I mean thank you by the way as always for texting and checking in but it's like every day seems to have had a problem thrown at us as like you know Grace is actually

yeah she's amazing but obviously like any new parents you're finding your feet and you're like oh shit that's that's a different sort of day that that's happening that's happening and then there's just another sort of few levels of stuff and i'll talk about some of them at a later date where they're not so raw but you're sort of um yeah man it's uh yeah it's it's been a bit of a hit to you but weirdly you know what it's like that thing like, it's been a bit of a hit to you. But weirdly, you know what? It's like that thing like, you sort of find a bit more inner strength, don't you, when you're going through stuff or other people close to you are going through things.

You sometimes find you can be a bit more resolute and it certainly gives you a little bit more pause for thought about how lucky you are with things. But yeah, man. I mean, the two things I'd say about it is obviously like, it's been tough and it's been and and um yeah when you're having a hard time like that two things that i think about what you're going through at the moment or what parent a lot of new parents go through is and

this is what we had when when theo was first born is that um you just can't believe how hard it is like you you can't believe how hard it is and and but it's the fact that you can't believe how hard it is no like you you can't believe how hard it is and and but it's the fact that you can't believe how hard it is alongside the fact that loads of obviously so many people have had children so you go so you go i don't understand this this you sort of start convincing yourself that this must be a unique experience because you go i would have heard more about this do you mean like like or or it would be more clear to me that this is fucking hard there were times when like lucian and i just be like what the fuck man like how how do we get through this this is mad like saying she slept like for the first two and a half months you're like oh wow this is we she's incredible and now it's like yeah i remember how cocky you were yeah and now it's like what like she's got a little cold so you know it breaks your heart she's snuffling a bit but

mate i said to katherine on saturday i was like you go out and i was like you know it breaks your heart she's snuffling a bit but mate i said to katherine on saturday i was like you go out and i was like yeah i've been working all week and it was just like a daddy a daughter day you go and see some friends yes yeah i said to see some other stuff and so she goes out in the morning it's like you know because she's like it's been really hard this week where you've been at work and in the morning i'm like this is kind of all right this is chilled enough like grace slept you know i sort of like we watched a bit of golf we watched a bit of football i was like this is fine no joke at four o'clock it's like are you ready for this prick and i'm like she just started crying and just wouldn't stop and you know like you have tricks

of like oh feed her i'll change her a I'll window, all that stuff. Nothing stopped. I'm like, wow. And then literally, Catherine comes walking through the door, and I'm like, she just won't stop crying. I gave it to Catherine. Catherine sort of walks downstairs of her house once, and then she just stops and she's fast asleep. And I swear she looked out of the corner of her eye and just was like, you ain't got this sussed yet, son. The other thing I think is, like like when those things like that happen when

you get a run of things happening you just basically you convince yourself you're cursed i've had it loads of times where you just go you just go and actually it got to the point where for me where mentally i was in such a weird place that if i actually started to experience happiness i'd start to get nervous about it coming to an end do you know what i mean yeah like you're the higher echolons of the fucking roller coaster yeah like you think like you think that like you think it's like a tank of petrol and you think if you burn through it too quickly you're gonna run out mate that's the fucking thing that people said about sleep and make sure you keep you know get all your sleep together before it starts. And I did that. And I can tell you that doesn't fucking work.

It's crazy. Like, but then where do you just, you learn to just sort of like focus and crack through on a, on just less sleep. But it's a mate, like fucking life. It could be difficult,

man. It's going to throw you curve balls. And you just got to, I always just try and I try to look at positives and yeah, I look at... I've had that form at Chicken Sandwiches this week. That's a positive, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it might not be long-term. It might actually be that... No, no. No, enjoy it as well as you can. Grace is listening back to this in fucking a few years' time going,

oh, that's what happened to him. Have you had the Chicken Big Mac? Yes, one minute. I was hearing... No, no, that's the one I was talking about, the Chicken Big Mac. I've had it like four times this week so when you said chicken sandwiches yeah

yeah that's what i meant sorry my this is that's actually it's actually more gluttonous yeah yeah yeah i've had because you know it's only going to last for so long so it's yeah it's like going to see a loved one in a care home it's like you want to go do it quite as much as you can before it's over. What an incredible analogy. What's the deal? Because there's a lot of McDonald's tropes that I don't know from not being a McDonald's customer. What's the deal with the McRib? Is that something they bring in and out? Yeah, it's a bit

like the Chicken Big Mac. It's like a special. It's like the Big Tasty and stuff. Some of these things come back. And does it taste amazing? Is the McRib amazing? Okay. It's alright right I'd say that the chicken big mac's been my favorite of these I used to love the big tasty yeah what is the big tasty tell me for it the big tech from what I remember it's a big tomato it's a nice how long ago was it but I used to go I'll tell you what this is the worst thing right years ago I went on a stag do to Riga right and uh I think we were there for four days.

And I solely ate in McDonald's, and all I ate was Big Tasties. To the point when we went in there on the third night, and all of the staff in this Riga, McDonald's, just started shouting out, oh, Big Tasty, Big Tasty. Everyone just called me Big Tasty. I'd have sometimes two in two sittings. Actually, if I was a boxer, that would probably be my nickname yeah sure or a prostitute okay well so but i but i sorry this one was i forgot to say is i've heard mixed reviews about

the chicken big man really yeah yeah i've had quite a few people sort of like i've put pictures of me eating it and stuff on and people say they think it's disgusting and then people have come at me with different ways of having it apparently someone told me you can combine the chicken and the beef big mac and it's the best thing you'll ever like it sounds insane it sounds mental but actually you know can i tell you what i think about that what i think that some people make the mistake of thinking if you customize it automatically makes it better like know, that's not always the case. Oh, you know what's great? You know what's great?

Just put a bit of Nutella onto your fries. You know, back in the day, I know a guy. I can't think of a better example. I don't want to name him, but he used to have fillet of fish mixed with a Big Mac, like surf and turf. Yeah, see what I mean? Although, do you know what?

As I'm saying it to you, Nutella with fries actually sounds amazing. Nutella's like surfing turf. Yeah. See what I mean? Although, do you know what? As I'm saying it to you now, Nutella with fries actually sounds amazing. Nutella with, yeah. It's like if you put your fries in a milkshake, it's incredible. Yeah.

On the one in every six year occasion when McDonald's milkshakes are working. Am I right, guys? Wow. Is that your McDonald's stuff? I could do McDonald's satire.

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shout out jess nappett and so i was on my way to the photo shoot and I started listening to it and I just got completely gripped it's such an amazing story but it is mad is it as good as something like Serial or something like that I would say it's up there as a story it's up there, it's definitely up there I think like yeah, no, it's great

it's really good, I was so tempted to google the story, you're so, you just think I just want to find out what happened there but you obviously have to resist that i need a little uh little something to listen to when i'm taking a little one out so that could be yeah there you go i have a listen to it i'm on it i'm on it i'm on it right should we do some emails my g once again thank you to the swan how is this one she's good as i speak to you now two of the boys are off sick from school covid so so she's dealing with that no just sort of what bugs random shit yeah your two bob bits um yeah so it's only the youngest has gone into school today but luckily it was roman

day at school so he's all right with it but if it had been a normal day roman i think we yeah yeah no it's roman abramovich they're sort of showing solidarity for the chelsea situation alright with it but if it had been a normal day Roman day well so they had to dress up as Romans yeah no it's Roman and Bramovich they're sort of showing solidarity for the Chelsea situation

okay this is from the mower wow what is a mower can you look it up for me please M-O-A

the mower it's like a bird okay well they're now extinct flightless birds actually you know what what's so tragic is if i'd

read just a little bit longer he's explained that so uh good day the swan owl owl oh my god good day the swan owl and wolf it's the mower brackets extinct flightless bird from nz still a bird though uh so this is from new zealand this email wow uh just wanted to drop a few lines and let you know great podcast podcast, very bloody funny. I'm a 30-year-old from New Zealand, just finished catching up on the pod. Come on, Tom. Come on.

Go, go. I'm a 30 year old from New Zealand just finished catching up on the pod I want to ask my missus is pregnant with my first baby fucking excited I am just want to know if you have any advice for a first time dad and how do you fellas balance work with home life being on the road so much I'm a truck driver that does 70 hours a week and i'm away for at least three nights i love my job and can't see

me doing anything else any advice that has helped you ron were you still planning on an aussie tour it'd be fucking dope if you could add a few new zealand dates as well probably in christ church in the south island uh my g's love you sweet sweet souls um souls. Okay. First of all, yes, I'm going to be doing an Australia tour. When are you going to Australia? Well, twice I was supposed to be going, and we've had to postpone it. But it is in the plans. So it probably won't be this tour show now.

It might be the next one. I don't know. But it is. If we get enough interest, we could just fly the wolf an hour. Would you do it out there? Yeah, I suppose we could do it. It's a good thing. It could be quite a laugh if there's quite a few people.

Anyway. I think Lisa and the kids want to come to Australia if I go. That would be amazing. So maybe you could bring Kat and we could make it like a family. Kat and little G. Little G dog. And then what would happen is, I imagine what would happen is, is being in that sort of situation, seeing each other a lot,

it starts a great, and then that'll probably be the end of the podcast i imagine and our friendship yeah i was just thinking actually just that's quite a long flight to take a really small baby on yeah um my guy my g the mo um bro look number one you're in for the best ever thing that's ever going to happen to you man man. Yeah, I can't tell you enough. It's just everything, man. Wake up in the morning and having a little one and someone there who just does nothing but makes you happy is just the best thing in the world. It's just untouchable. Saying that, the balancing act is...

And I'd be completely lying if I said that I got it sussed as someone who's four months into this. I'm just trying now just to get my head around how much time I need to work and how much time I need to be at home and how much I need to give each of those things to be the best version of a father and a husband. And also, you know, for my career as well.

So it's quite difficult. The one thing I will say more than anything though is um just make sure you you support your wife and be there for her for her or your girlfriend i can't remember where it's wife or girlfriend but just make sure that you're there and you're there constantly for whatever she needs and be attentive because sometimes she might not ask for help but she needs it um make sure you're yeah constantly for whatever she needs and be attentive because sometimes she might not ask for help, but she needs it. Um, make sure you're, yeah,

that that's, that's the one thing I think like sometimes like you can get a little bit lost in the, lost in the storm around this baby and like, you know, the, that becomes like, and so it should be like this really important thing,

but you need to pay mind to what, um, they're going through because the role of the father of being able to you have time and you go out and you work in but you do have that time where you're out of the house and you have a little bit of department

from everything that's going on inside and in that you get a little space of yourself and you don't lose sense of your identity and I think what can happen is that I think if you don't keep an eye on stuff i think sort of mothers can find a little bit of like they lose that a little bit and it can become a bit like an avalanche of like worry and what's going on so just make sure that you know you keep a really really good eye on on her and be as supportive as you can because it's not about us, big dog.

It's about everyone else when it comes to those times. And yeah, do you, brother. Good luck. I couldn't disagree more. Look after yourself. Yeah, yeah, obviously. A lot of the problem with mums is they make a big fucking deal about how hard it is.

And you're off at work. But are you allowed to say that you've had a tough day? Oh, you fuck. You have to listen to this shit. No, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking. I'm further down the road with this than Tom. But I'd say it's difficult. I haven't always got it right.

Sometimes I've been working too much. But for me particularly, it's travel shows. And the difference for me is that it is to you, is that because you seem to have quite a pattern and you know what you're doing, sometimes it'd be like surprise things where all of a sudden I'd be going away and Lisa would be on her own.

And I'm very lucky. I do want to say how brilliant lisa is at dealing with all that um so you have to i think what tom's saying is right you've got to have that balance in mind and be constantly be conscious of that all the time you know try and be on top of that the other thing i would say is it's really good to absolutely make the most of the time that you are at home and you are together like you know make that as protected as you possibly can um be in the room you know like even things like not looking at your phone make a difference do you mean and and actually thinking about things you could do as your kid gets a bit older and you're able to have days out and stuff like that go and do that i always have we always have a rule in our house to have something to look forward to so for example

like something family-oriented to look forward to so for example at the end of april we've got something booked in where we're like just doing a little uk break or whatever but that's just a thing that you know we've got a little bit of quality time lined up or whatever and lisha and i look across at the weeks and go like let's do something nice this day with with all the boys and whatever so it's good to do all that the other thing that I the other thing I would say is uh is worth doing is um letting your other half uh have some time just being themselves because I know that from my point of view Lisa gets called mum more than she does Lisa uh on a day-to-day basis and in her life.

And sometimes I just think it's nice because I call her mum as well. It's a stupid thing, but what can you do? But I just think it's good to encourage them to have a life outside of being your other half and being a mum. Do you know what I mean? Amen. So those things are really important. So make sure you've got an eye on that. But congratulations, man.

It's going to be great. It's the best thing, man. Enjoy it, enjoy it, enjoy it. Obviously, it slightly undermines it that the first part of this podcast, earlier in this podcast, I was talking about how difficult it is and how we couldn't believe how difficult it was.

That is also all true. But you're going to have a wonderful time. It's incredible. And it will bring a side out in you that is just, yeah, it's truly marvellous. So congratulations. For me, it was crying uncontrollably

every single Pixar film. So there you go. I was just crying everything now. Literally every little thing. I cried at The Apprentice the other night. So yeah, that was a new low. Well, it was baby food, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Particularly. Yeah, that was a new low. Well, it was baby food, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Particularly. Okay, our next email is from the slightly longer-eared bat. Wow. And as I was walking in, Alicia said to me,

this is something that she's been talking about with our eldest. And I don't know if you've seen this. It's going, it's quite the viral sensation. Oh, yeah. This question. Okay. Hi, Wolf and Al, was Jenny going to start this email? Yes, I have a kid,

but realised wrong podcast. Two things I want settled. Does Tom appearing on Rob and Josh's podcast count as you putting out one this week? Can I just say, by the way, just as a thing, I didn't realise that everyone puts their podcasts out on Wednesdays.

I know. Is that a bad thing? I don't know. It just it's like i'm just like should we try and move this should we move this if we put this on a friday we'd be at the top of the charts every friday yeah why the fuck are we competing with these big dogs mate we're like these guys are like down parenting the big big hitters i think chris and rosie put theirs out on a wednesday yeah we've made a big mistake yeah so i think Chris and Rosie put theirs out on a Wednesday. Yeah, we have made a big mistake. Yeah, so I think guys just get ready because we're fucking, if nothing else, we're tactical. Yeah, we're moving it from a Wednesday to not doing it. We're like the Brian Clough.

We're like the Brian Clough's of this shit. We haven't got the fucking, the big fucking players. We've just got a very small squad. But if we can tactically make a fucking hit. And we don't, yeah, yeah. We're playing the tactical game here and that might mean you start seeing this coming out on a Tuesday hello

hello the rest of the podcast or a Friday so we have seven days to be able to do it rather than fucking two that's a great shout this is a question are there more doors or wheels in the world wow

well I mean it's pretty obvious right well this is this has been going all over tiktok i think well i saw a clip of cord and discussing it on the late late show i think everyone's sort of uh and people are pretty passionate about this so what's your instinct telling you doors all day long that's what i think just on the basis that a lot of the wheels are going to be made up by cars, which also have doors. Yes, that's true. And, you know, lots of buildings have doors.

But the question then is, lots of buildings have doors. Have I said anything less insightful in my life? I don't think so. No, no, but you've asked to analyse the situation. That's the most analytical way that I could, you could... But this is what I would say to you, just as sort of a counterpoint. If you've got an extending dining table, and you know you pull them out,

and you put another panel in to... You know what I'm talking about. So are we counting those wheels that enable those... Not all of those have wheels, by the way. Yeah, but a lot of them do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So are we counting those wheels that enable those? Not all of those have wheels, by the way. Yeah, but a lot of them do. Yeah, but how many of those are in the world? Like in the world, probably 20,000 maybe at most. And what are you...

What a fucking insane thing to say. No, what? What an insane thing to say. What are you basing that on? 20,000 wheels? Right, right. I'd love to know. I'd love to know.

Because you arrived at that figure so quick. I'd love to know what calculation you just know because you can't you arrived at that figure so quick i'd love to know what calculation you just did right i'm just thinking about how many 20 000 extending dining tables with us in the world i know one person and maybe you right who's got an extended dining table with wheels right there you go there's your sample size and then i times it by the world's population so what is the world's population? I don't know. Some sort of, like, what, like 200 million or something? Okay, you really fucking hell. I can't believe you just said that. How many people are out there in the world?

I don't know. There's 60 million about in the UK, you fucking mad prick. Oh, okay. So there's, what, 25 billion? Let's have a look. Let's have a look. And of those people, based on the fact that two of your mates have got that table, you're estimating 20,000.

No, two of the people I've known my whole life have got it, right? Okay. And I've probably in my whole life met at least 2,500 people, I reckon. Okay. And obviously, every single person you've ever met, that's the first question, what's your name? Second question, do you have one of those extending dining tables? No, but it's the sort of thing that someone would bring up in a conversation.

7.9 billion. Okay. Okay. Well, it wasn't that far off. I was only like 500 million. Right. Okay. So I'll push that up to 50 000

tom tom tom tom let me just stop you there yeah what did you what did you just say but it's not 100 million no no no what did you just say so you said 500 million yeah and i said it's 7.9 billion yeah do you know what a billion is? Yeah, 100 million, right? No. I weren't just saying a billion. Is it a million million? Oh, no, Jesus. You're the maths teacher. So, hold on.

You don't do your fucking maths maths teachers know what a billion is? Look, when I was at school, billion wasn't even a thing. It was a thing. When you were at school, listen, when you were at school, a billion was a thing. People were just getting their edge around millions. Don't start fucking making it out like your education missed billions arriving.

Okay? Billions were a thing when you were at school. So how many is a billion? Okay. So actually, there's a bit of controversy about that. Okay. Right? arriving okay billions were a thing when you were at school so how many is a billion okay so actually there's a bit of controversy about that right so originally i this by the way i don't know i'm just freestyling this okay but this is my understanding originally a billion was a million million okay okay so i was right no you weren't you said a 100 million. Okay. Right? Right, yeah. Okay. And then desperation, you guessed it, a million million.

Right? But that has now changed now to mean it's 1,000 million is a billion. Okay. Okay. Right. All right? Okay. So when you said 500 million, first of all, we're discovering now all this time, I mean,

how much richer is Elon Musk to you now? All this time you've been thinking I don't know why I have to fucking donate money they're not doing that well yeah mate but I always thought

yeah it was a hunt like yeah fucking hell there you go mad world we live in right so look

but yeah I think pull out tables what just as a basis what do you put if you've got to pull out a table I'm guessing like you're going to have a pretty big house and what do you put in some if you've got a pull-out table i'm guessing like you're going to have a pretty big house and what you're going to have in a big house

we've got some good arguments here but the counter argument to that is if you've got a big house you're probably more likely to have children if you're in a you know it's likely that you've got children those children you'll have bought lots of toys for because you're doing well those toys will have wheels on them yeah but also you might have bought them a dollhouse which has got doors on it and you've also brought like bounty hill like yeah but also the barbie dollhouse she she has a car in that you can buy that as an accessory yeah yeah but that's got wheels on it how many wheels wheels they got on it how many wheels has a car got on it yeah how many wheels yeah and how many doors they got on it well this is a good question because like let's let's even if it was a convertible

you've got two doors the boots a door yeah the bonnets a door yeah so there's an argument that for every fucking hell this is a bit of an head fuck yeah and then we're and you put it in the house right so most people have got cars without being i'd guess unless you put it in a house, right? So most people have got cars without being, I'd guess, unless you're living in a car, which completely, yeah. So, look, you're basically, you're putting up cars, houses, flats, any living accommodation, right? Any working accommodation. You're essentially because...

Well, not any living accommodation. There are some countries where they live in sort of habitations that don't have doors. They just have doorways. Yeah, but, oh, so doorways don't count? I don't know. I don't know doors i just have doorways yeah but oh so doorways don't count i don't know i don't i don't know because if it well i'd assume that like you'd have something across the doorway even if you're in like any kind of habitat you'd have like you know something across it right which would then become a door right i think i've been to places where they don't have that on my travels well you've traveled more than i have i mean like you've been around

the world i've been to feleraki a few times all right i mean that really said that that sounded it's one of the wankiest things i've ever just think of a block of flats how many doors that's got in it and you're putting that up against motorbikes skateboards and fucking yeah you know they're the only things motorbikes skateboards scalex trick yeah yeah i guess there's many guests yeah scalex yeah yeah yeah yeah roller skates yeah but think how many people yeah I don't know

I just don't I think doors has it all day long I just can't see wheels have even got a fucking hope in hell no you even think about boats they've all got doors on

no wheels how do you get the boat to the water on a trailer with wheels how many wheels on that trailer do boats have doors on of course they do but like speed boats don't yeah they do some of them do you have the little boat in the top then yeah no you have a little door that goes into the engine room yeah how can it be wheels it's not

wheels mate it's literally um look i've can people get in touch with the compelling argument for wheels please i'd love to hear it and let me just shout out look you know since the invention of wheels we've come a long way we should never ever sign the wheels but go and toe to toe with doors mate it's a fucking a bit enough more than they could chew no you're absolutely right well done um i'd also love to know if this is the most lowbrow version of this discussion you've heard in on any format i've not even heard this argument but yeah it's an interesting one it's big man big at the moment okay should we do uh one more email yeah oh this is a follow-up email wow oh my favorite okay this is from the koala well i'm not expecting to remember the koala's email i mean just from

the animal name hi wolf owl cat and swan a few weeks ago i sent you an email explaining that I was worried that I might not be a lesbian, as I'd always thought, and I was asking for your insight on the situation. I wanted to thank you for your response and advice. Your kind words and support really meant a lot to me at a time when I was really in a flat and felt I couldn't turn to anyone in my real life. You asked for an update on what happened next, so here it is. That's nice. Wow.

You know what? I'm actually kicking back, and if I had some popcorn, gee, I'd be eating it. Upon your advice, I did try expanding my dating pool to include men and met an absolute lovely one who I went on a couple of dates with. Thanks for your advice on avoiding creeps, by the way. I had no prior experience with men, so you helped me out there. When I listened to your advice, I must admit I was skeptical when you said I would just know how I felt.

But of course, you were right. The man I met was wonderful in every way, but within two dates, I just felt deep inside that this was wrong for me honestly he was so nice I half considered staying with him anyway but of course that wouldn't be the right thing to do and I explained the situation to him and apologized so it turns out I didn't avoid in the first place I am a lesbian I'm glad I've had that experience though as that man and I really got on and I've gained a new friend out of it so thank you you for helping that to happen. You lovely people. Now, this is the next bit of the story.

It doesn't really have anything to do with the advice you gave me, but it feels relevant. So I'll include it anyway. Unbeknownst to me, a close friend of mine was having the same crisis at the same time as me, but in reverse, we hadn't seen each other for the week or two while my dates, while I was having my dates with this man.

So I was catching her up on everything that had happened. And she told me that while she was always identified as straight, she now thought she might be bisexual, but't sure to my utter surprise this exchange ended in her asking me out because she thought she might have feelings for me but couldn't tell if they're real or just a phase i'd never even thought of her in any other romantic capacity before but because i always knew that she was just straight however i guess sometimes your heart knows what to say before your brain does because i was shocked to hear myself saying yes we've now spent almost every day of the last few weeks together and as she says uh just as I felt straight away that things were wrong with the man I dated and I wouldn't ever be able to fall in love with him

she says she can just feel that things are right with it and that she's into women and specifically very much wants to be with me which is a relief because to be honest with you I'm very quickly falling head over heels for her unfortunately all this means that my grandma won't now get the satisfaction of being right about me not really being gay but i'm so happy i've had this experience i feel i know myself so much better and i'm really really happy right now sorry this update so long and thank you so much to this one for selecting my initial email and to the wolf and al for your kind words and advice i honestly think i would still be in the exact same worried and confused place without it all the love i can give and more from the koala

wow you know what how amazing is that that's the high five i needed in my life today that's uh what amazing story that's that's beautiful right that does feel nice that feels it does feel right heck that feels nice and there's not really anything else we can say apart from no sometimes you know I guess sometimes we get shit, right. Sometimes we do. I think it's a combination of our advice and also her sort of listening to a podcast with two men of our stature that convinced her that men weren't for

her. So congratulations. And to that, I say, all right, all right. Um, have you watched the Batman? No. Have you seen it? Have you, have you been, no, but can right. Have you watched The Batman?

No, have you seen it? Have you been? No, but can you watch it before the next episode and then we can talk about it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I've got loads of time to go to the cinema right now. Oh. You've got three boys you could take. Oh.

I mean, I'll try and take Grace. I can't actually take any of the boys because The Batman's a 15. Is it? Theo would get in. He's 13, right? Well, he tried to get in the other day to a 15. I can't remember which one and he got turned away.

Oh, man, man, man. Don't say this now. That breaks my heart. Yeah. He was gutted. Yeah. I went to see it live. They brought the popcorn and everything.

Really? It was right at the last hurdle. What did you guys watch? I can't remember. I can't remember. I know it's probably not not right but if you're fucking working it i mean look there's a lot of amazing people who work in cinemas but fucking you're being a bit of a fucking jobsworth there just let the kids in um i think they're probably not

legally allowed to yeah but also i mean what fucking proxy of law that is i went to watch basic instinct when i was 14 by the way i don't give a shit about that yeah i got an old pirate copy of it, which I still have somewhere at my mum's. Yeah, I bet you do. Okay, Tom, could you please do us the honour of taking us out of this ting? Well, where to start? Heroes, villains, human beings.

It's hard to tell one apart from the other because sometimes the heroes are just people that you believe are doing good stuff and you think that the way that they walk in, well, hell, you'll follow. And villains, no one ever intentionally follows a villain, but sometimes we slip inside because actually we make them the hero. We make them the person who's got all the answers and actually they haven't got any of them, but they seem for a fictitious way to have hoodwinked you into believing that their way is the way. And you're too far down the road then.

And you're following someone whose life is just a bit of a joke. We shouldn't judge those people though. We shouldn't judge anyone who follows someone because they think, actually, I don't know where I'm going with this. judge anyone who follows someone because they think, actually I don't know where I'm going with this. Who's following the villain?

That should be the people who are judging the most. It was... I literally got halfway through it thinking, what are you even talking about? This is like... Oh my god, I could see your confidence in what you're saying sort of gradually dissolving i can feel it literally my brain just going uh i don't think we've got this

in us today literally there's like a little captain who sits in my brain she just turned around to everyone and went iceberg iceberg okay well look guys Tom listen don't be hard on yourself mate I know yeah it's been a tough you've had a tough week

yeah and actually the real failure here is in me for not recognising that and making you do that I'm sorry

and also you know what maybe in life we should have just gone out on the cherished moment okay guys thank you so much for listening to the podcast next time we see we should have just gone out on the cherished moment. Guys, thank you so much for listening to the podcast.

Next time we see some people, we'll be out on tour, baby. Oh, yes. Holy shit. Tom's picking up his golf club. He's obviously got a busy day ahead of him. Three gigs. Three gigs.

You got three gigs today? No, no, no, no, no. We've got three. Oh, we've got three. Oh, shit. We've got three. Yeah, we've got three gigs. Saffron Walden, Soho, and Hackney.

And I can tell you, we're in discussions to throw a couple more in a little mix so look out for those and yes people outside of london i know it's annoying uh so we're aware of that um okay peace out enough respect keep it real peace and love If you have a problem, opinion, feedback or anything at all, please email us at wolfalpod at gmail.com. That's wolfalpod at gmail.com. We'd love to hear from you, mainly because we don't have any content ideas.

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