Wolf and Owl - Episode 4

Episode Date: December 16, 2020

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Fuck their censorship, let them see the whole thing They stay dressed to kill, never sheep's clothing Dark enough to turn the sun to the episode four of the Wolf and Owl podcast. The reason I hesitate is because this actually is our last episode before Christmas. Is it? Yeah. That's why I hesitated. So basically, let me talk you through the genesis of this podcast. In March, Tom and I decided we were going to do a podcast.

Over the next few months, you won't be aware. Well, you might be aware of this when you've seen our thirsty little posts out on Instagram looking for questions and bits and pieces. Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is we've taken so long that we now have reached Christmas. And we've already put it out the fourth episode. That's how bad this has been. We've got four.

I know. Total. It's incredible, isn't it? Yeah. And listen, let's be honest. The way that Tom and I are, there's no guarantee we'll be back after Christmas. I'm going to tell you that now.

That's the intention. But we'll get carried away with something else. We start working on a cartoon or something. And then it's just, it's not definite this podcast is coming back. You might be listening to the last episode. It could be. This could be the final.

It could well be. Anyway, my brother, it's good to see you. Good to see you. What have you been up to? Man, so this week I have entered the murky world of gaming. you bought um cyberpunk right i bought cyberpunk have you played it yet no but i've heard i've heard good things so can you explain well who have you heard those off because honestly it's the fucking biggest waste of time

oh my god beckett beckett was beckett beckett yeah i want to speak to beckett about it i mean maybe talk me through it mate number one i've a boneless pick with Keanu Reeves. Okay. Because have you seen it? He's literally, everywhere you look on TV, his advert is for this game, right? Right.

So you're anointing him for advertising the game? Well, number one, I want to see if he's a fan of the game. Okay. I want to say to him, if you put your money where your mouth is on this one, mate... How would he do that?

How would he prove to you that he's a fan of the game? Well, tell me what happens in the end or something. Or show me him playing it and he's amazing at it. Because I find it really annoying. This is one of those things, right? Where I hope that people who advertise things

are into the thing that they're advertising. Before you carry on, this idea that you want people to advertise, knowing the people that we know and the adverts they're involved in, you want a guarantee that people

who are advertising stuff are into the thing. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, in a sense. Okay, so you are angry with Keanu Reeves because you don't believe that he actually plays Cyberpunk. Is that the situation? Yeah. No, because the advert is on constantly, right?

Right. He's not in charge of scheduling, just so you know. He just does the advert. He doesn't tell them how many times to put it on. That's not his fault. But out of every advert I've ever seen, right, he sells that with more conviction than any advert I've ever seen. I'm going to be honest with you.

I've not even seen the advert. So what happens in the advert? Really? Yeah. So the advert is Keanu Reeves, right? He is walking along and he's like... How's he dressed? He's dressed in a suit, very much like John Wick.

He looks like they filmed it on the set of John Wick, if I'm honest with you. Okay. And he's like, what will life be like in 2077? And then it just goes can you handle the pace can you handle crime your body can be put through anything

if it's got the minerals and all of these pictures some of that is my word I assume that because I don't know what a fucking insane advert that would be if those were the words of it are you ready to actually handle crime have you got the minerals what the fuck are you talking to actually handle crime have you got the minerals what the fuck are you

talking about anyway go right and it's him walking towards the camera yeah and then they show loads of bits of the game

which may I say is no fair reflection of how the actual game is when you play it what hang on is this because okay carry on

I just want to hear you out yeah so the game for a start is first like one of those I can't even see the little man that I'm playing. What do you mean? Well, you can't see him. All you can see is his fucking arms. Yeah,

so it's a first-person shooter, is that what you're saying? Yeah, which is done. Tom, Tom, I'm sorry. That is not a problem with the game. It is a problem with the game when the fucking first 50 minutes of the game, first hour you spend building a character, you never fucking see. you don't fucking see the guy i'm like that's ridiculous i literally went into such finesse to build this character that i'm gonna play you don't see him

hold on are there any um are there any like can you change the view i looked into that i don't honestly matt i don't because i don't play games so i don't i looked on a menu but i can't fight i'd have hoped so because literally everyone's raving about it looked on the menu but I can't I'd have hoped so because literally everyone's raving about it and you can't see the character so first I just

want to bullet point your problems because obviously there's a list of issues you've got in this game so issue number one you're not

sure if Keanu Reeves is advertising a game that he's actually good at so that's the first thing that you know I'd like to see actually a T-Wat advertising game that he's actually good at. So that's the first thing that you know about. That's the first thing.

I'd like the fact, I'd like to see, actually, I'll tell you what, and this goes out to anyone who's doing games or actually anything. If I watch an advert for JD Sports, I see Van Dyke or Rita Aurora knocking about in that tracksuit or those tracksuit bottoms. Instead of fucking walking through

a world that doesn't even exist, I want to see Keanu Reeves sitting in his house playing the game. Yeah, that sounds like a fucking great advert. Yeah, okay. So, by the way, they've done that advert. That advert has been done a lot. Specifically, Nintendo Wii were busting out that advert quite a bit. Yeah.

Where they would get families, celeb families, and they'd be in their living room. They've all got the same living room, but a lot of glass, quite a generic, bland, vanilla sofa. And they'd all just be sort of going, oh, God, this is amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like that. So you want Keanu Reeves to do that advert, right?

I'd like to see Keanu Reeves with a half-eaten pizza and a can of Red Stripe just sitting there with his top off, just playing the game. Sure, okay. I'll be honest with you, I'm having a go at you. No, let me just

say it to you i've got no problems with the advert apart from they pulled my pants down because the advert worked the advert's a great advert okay so the advert so the advert's worked so you're back down on that you're happy with you're all right with that i'm not happy with the advert because it's worked but it's basically like it's like i've gone to a road car salesman and he's told me this car's amazing i've walked off driven off the uh the fucking forecourt okay and five miles down the road the wheels are falling off listen that's how i feel about this okay okay so for you to be angry with the advert it has to have told you something about the game that isn't true of the game right you've said they

called you they said they pulled your pants down. So you're sitting there. You've not bought a game for a while. I've never heard you talk about video games before. I'm not a video gamer. No, you're not a video gamer. If I'm going to be honest with you, I've only ever played FIFA up till now. Right, okay.

So you've only ever played FIFA. And for some reason, you're sitting at home, you're watching this advert, and something about that advert is knocked on your little noggin and it's got, and you've got yourself, oh, I've not played, I've only ever played,

I've only ever played, but it's really like, it's really like tickled my fanciness. I think I might, I think I might roll, Fucking impression, you fucking prick. I think I might,

I think I might roll the dice on this one, I like Keanu. Jesus Christ. It sounds like I'm watching TV with my wife feeding me fucking soup on a spoon. Fuck me. Jesus, son. I don't know how I learned to look at this game.

Later on that afternoon, Tom went to game. He'd saved up £50 I was wondering if I could buy a copy of Cyberpunk yeah sure mate what console is it oh it's a black box it's a black box with

controllers Mickey can you get out of front of here okay we're going to show you some photos and when you see the photo of the one that looks like your console why don't you just say yeah okay that's a Sega Megatron you've got there

you're going to have to upgrade no I'm afraid that's actually a record player so okay what made you go and buy a cyberpunk then the sexy advert but also yeah but loads of games have got that got adverts on what about like call of duty's got an amazing advert like i just you know assassin's creed has got amazing maybe it was a time in my life i'm sitting here you know we're coming up to christmas we've been for a long lockdown all i've ever played is fifa maybe it's like actually maybe there's more out there than just this one game

that I've played for like 25 years so you see Keanu Reeves he's like probably a hero of yours isn't he I respect him because he's the first

person ever to be called Keanu what are you talking about he is the first ever Keanu what makes you say that well he is what do you mean

well he is there's other Keanos out there his parents invented that name for him what do you meananos out there. His parents invented that name for him. What do you mean his parents invented that name? They invented that name for him. How do you know that?

What are you basing that on? What's your source? I don't know any other Keanos. Okay, all right, fine. Do you know any other Romesh's? No. No, no. No, sorry.

So do you ever? Do you ever? Actually, yes, I do, actually, because when we were filming the King Gary Christmas special, the man who played your dad turned around and said? Actually, yes, I do, actually, because when we were filming the King Gary Christmas special, the man who played your dad turned around and said, oh, actually, my nephew's called Romesh. So you don't know his nephew, though, do you?

Yeah, but I know there's another Romesh knocking about out there. So are you telling me, then, up until the point where you filmed the Christmas episode of King Gary, you thought I was the first person on the planet to be called Romesh? I mean, because I didn't, I don't recall, because I was there the whole time you were there with that guy, and I don't recall you going, oh, fucking hell, I don't believe called Romesh. Because I was there the whole time you were there with that guy, and I don't recall you going, oh, fucking hell. I don't believe it. Romesh.

Who's another Romesh? You are such a show-off, mate. I have no doubt in my mind that one of the first things you'd have said to me when I met you was, oh, hi, I'm Romesh. I'm the only Romesh in the world. First of all, who the fuck would say that? Who the fuck would say that as a brag? Hello, my name's Romesh in the world. Yeah. First of all, who the fuck would say that? You.

Who the fuck would say that as a brag? Hello, my name's Romesh. But hello, my name's Romesh. By the way, in case you're wondering why you haven't heard any other Romeshes, it's because I'm the first one. You're welcome. Now there'll be a flurry, right, of Romeshes all round.

Okay. Right. Couple of things there. First of all, well done. You're starting to use flurry correctly. That's good. Right, go i'll say now i don't think you're the first romish in the world i've never thought you're the first romish if there was someone called keanu before keanu i'd be shocked it's isn't it isn't it and by the way you're sort of making me sort of doubt myself a little bit but

i'm pretty sure it's a very common hawaiian name is he hawaiian i don't think he is but the name is right i well again this feels like saying see some podcasts now i've listened to a few more would google this kind of thing and put an end to it like the christmas tree i would i would say that he's probably one of the first chianos in the world it's i remember when i went to school there's a kid called dean in my class and my parents were like that's the first they'd never heard of the name dean before sorry your parents said that they'd never heard the name dean before no this is probably this would have been 1986 right dean was not the name that you know now very very sort of like 1986 there wasn't many things my parents are big metlers that is amazing actually because even my granddad couldn't get his head around the name dean right

and he was a massive fan of that sort of music yeah um also it's okay let's just assume let's i'm even going to give you by the way this is this is not true, but let's imagine that Keanu, that's the first time the name Keanu's been ever given to him. Why would that make you respect him? I've always been a fan of Keanu. I said why. You said because he's the first person ever to be called Keanu. Oh, the message that the enemy films as well. Okay, as well.

As well as the fact that he's the first person in your beliefs to be called Keanu. Something that wasn't his decision. I don't know how it worked with you, that your parents brought you up until you were of an age that they said, okay, boy one, I think it's time for you to... Fucking boy one, like I'm in a fucking court case. I think you're old enough

now to choose your name. They gave... Right, so it's Keanu... Let me tell you, I would not have chosen Tom Davis. What would you have chosen if you... What would you have chosen?

Jeremiah. Jeremiah? You said that so quickly. You didn't even think about it. As if that's somebody you've been fantasising about. Why Jeremiah? I just think it's a cool name.

I don't know many Jeremiahs knocking about. Oh, yeah. All right. Tom Davis is literally the most boring name in the world. Yeah, Davis, Davis you haven't really got. I mean, you could change it, but let's just assume that Davis is locked in, right? Yeah.

Jeremiah Davis. But Jeremiah Davis is better. And then what would happen? All your mates would call you JD. You'd be such a prick. Or Jerry. I could be Jerry or Maya. Jerry Davis.

Jerry Davis? Yeah. Jerry Davis in King Garry. Yeah. Oh, I don't mind it. I quite like Jerry Davis. Do you know that when I was

a kid, have I told you this story about Transformers? No. Go on. Did you watch Transformers when

you were a kid? Yeah, loved it. Right, so did you watch it from like the Gen 1, you know, they used to show it on Saturday

mornings? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to love that and Mask Crusaders. Yeah, I love Mask, right? Yeah.

So, Transformers, do you remember any of the names of any of the characters yeah like Bumblebee yeah Optimus Prime yeah

yeah Optimus what Prime you did say Optimus Prime didn't you yeah yeah because that's yeah

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yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah what was i going to say oh yeah so there's a there's a porsche in that in uh transformers remember and you used to want to be the porsche yeah so do you know what the porsche is called no jazz right so yeah yeah so for two weeks about two weeks i insisted that my parents called me jazz

and i refused to respond to right refuse to respond to Romesh. Jazz Rankin Aiton, by the way, is a fucking sweet name.

That's a fucking cool name. Jazz is actually quite, you can believe that being an Asian name.

But out of all the Transformers, I would say that you are most like Bumblebee. Why?

I don't know, he's just quite a sweet soul. He's the one who's always there for you he's not a good good guy it's such a piece of shit anyway come on there jeremiah so you put you you thought mate we wouldn't have had to call this a wolf an hour if we were called jeremiah jazz and jazz this would be the jazz and Jazz podcast oh mate that would have been

fucking sweet okay so the game so first of all that's the problem okay is that Keanu Reeves you're not convinced

that Keanu Reeves is going to go second of all second of all you designed your character and put him in a nice outfit or whatever and then when you

start playing I just know because you make his whole face you can even choose his penis length okay is that true? Yeah.

And how much pubic hair he has and stuff. Okay, fuck off. Yeah, I swear, mate. I swear. You're lying. That's... Mate, that is... God's Google it, brother.

You can choose the penis length of your character in Cyberpunk. Yeah. And if you do a female character, you basically do the same. Let me have a look at this. I don't believe you. Yeah. You can you do a female character, you basically do the same. Let me have a look at this. I don't believe you. You can choose the penis. Are you wondering? Is this a big one?

Google it, bro. Google it. People now will be listening to this going, Romesh, jazz, jazz, jazz. Jeremiah's right. Oh, my God, you're right. It's insane. They have the ability to choose between two penis options or a vagina.

This can't be real. And you've got like, you can get a little pubic hair, but heart-shaped. Why though? Are you naked in the gun? This is what I'm saying. You don't know if you're naked because you don't see the character. Okay. Honestly.

So what penis size do you go for? We've got a small one okay fair enough so you chose this small penis guy and for some reason you wanted to have that in on your screen at all times you get you have clothes on apparently as well okay so can you choose the clothes no do you choose the penis length but not what you're wearing no it's ridiculous and you have to go through literally like a long process of designing this character and then oh it has an impact on how the how the game works let me tell you how the game works all you do is walk around talking to people it's fucking boring i'm like this is what are you sure are you sure you've not got

like you might not have got far enough into it mate look fif look, FIFA, press X, choose a team before you know it, you're playing football. Right. I'm like, if I give half an hour to something, 50 minutes,

by the way, I'm not even talking about the amount of time it takes to design the character that they do, yeah? Yeah. Right?

And then I'm playing the game and all I've done is walked around on my own talking to a load of people who've got boring stories. A lot of them are just having a go at me

about stuff that I haven't even done. Yeah. Right? Then I'm like, I'm out of this yeah i get it i mean don't start telling people about giving up on stuff after half an hour mate otherwise we're about to have a massive drop off on this we've talked about cyberpunk for so you're not i thought you're about to give a raving endorsement of the game so does this put you off gaming i'm positive about most things but that is i'm generally that is two freshly cracked eggs any way you like them three strips of naturally smoked bacon and a side of toast only six dollars

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or if he's been a bit harsh. And also if you've got a glowing indictment that you want to give that it's an amazing game after I've played it for fucking two and a half hours, then I'll give it a little bit longer. So how long did you play it for?

Half an hour. And then you just switched off? Mate, it's like watching a film. If I'm watching a film and nothing's happened apart from someone just walking around having inane conversations

about who they are, I don't need a backstory. I'm playing a computer game. I want to go and shoot some shit. I don't want to fucking have to literally walk around going, hi, I'm John. I used to know you

when you lived in the old town I'm not I don't give a it's a game it's make-believe life like literally I was like but I think this is

part of the problem what's the last game you played apart from FIFA Grand Theft Auto back in the day okay so Grand Theft Auto that's the sort of

those games they're world building that cyberpunk is setting you up to get an understanding of what, you're going to get more out of it. You're investing a bit of time in now. You're getting accustomed to the game. They're very smart the way they do this. Mate, I've called their bluff.

What do you mean you've called their bluff? I'm not going to give it any answers, mate. Not having a sufficient attention span to see it out is not calling their bluff. You've bought the game and you've decided not to play it anymore. There's no egg on their face if that's what

you're thinking. You're very much the victim in this scenario. You realise that, don't you? They're not going to listen to this and go, oh, shame on us. He's really got us there. He stopped playing after half an hour. Oh, I've tasted my medicine and it is bitter.

The idea that you think you've got one over on the game developers because you stopped playing it after half an hour. Jokes on them. Jokes on them. 80 quid down a swan, aren't you?

What's money when you've got a moral victory? Is that how much it was? 80 quid? Yeah, I brought like the all singular dancing one. Oh, fucking,

why would you do that? Well, because I thought it was going to fucking be better. I might get in touch with him and just say, look, is there a way of doing it so I can see my character? I'd get more satisfaction out of being able to see him

running about town. Okay, but that... That's what I used to love about Grand Theft Auto back in the day. That you could see the character? Yeah. Oh, God, can you imagine saying that to a... When you play Grand Theft Auto? Yeah, it's so great.

I can always see the guy that you've created on screen. That's my favourite bit. And then they just go, fuck off. What do you prefer? You're a first-person? Fuck off, Tom. created on screen. That's my favourite bit. And then they just go, fuck off. What do you prefer? You're a first-person? Fuck off, Tom. Leave us alone. That's what they say.

What's your favourite sort? You like when you can just see the hands and stuff. No, no, no. I'm not particularly into first-person shootings or anything, but what I would say is if I bought a first-person shooter and that game was a first-person shooter, it wouldn't enrage me. I would think, oh, yeah, this is exactly what I was buying.

In the same way, if you imagine this conversation where somebody goes, so have you played FIFA? You go, yeah. You know how most computer games are like you're shooting and killing stuff? You never fucking believe what FIFA is what playing a game of

bloody football I couldn't believe it I couldn't play football in the fucking park I can't believe I cannot believe I paid money to play football

on a console I need you to go away and watch the advert right watch the advert and see how cool it looks and then go and play the game and there's a juxtaposition but they're honestly Jazz the difference is phenomenal and watch the advert, right? Watch the advert and see how cool it looks and then go and play the game.

And there's a juxtaposition there, but honestly, Jazz, the difference is phenomenal. And it's groundbreakingly different. Okay. It's not groundbreakingly different. It's not... Nobody said it breaks new... I think this could be

one of the biggest conspiracies. I think it could be one of the biggest conspiracies. And also, this is the other thing I have the up with. So, actually, on reflection, I have the hunt with. So actually, on reflection, I wasn't paying

enough attention to when the advert first went out. Not actual gameplay. Not actual gameplay.

Yeah, they always say that. I mean, you've absolutely, you've fallen for like fucking the most,

that's the most muggy thing you might have ever said. Yeah, I know it is now. It says clearly not actual gameplay

I didn't see that because I was so taken with fucking Keanu Reeves his monologue and all the you didn't think Keanu Reeves walking on was part of the game

did you what no I didn't think that was a part of the game but I think I thought if he likes it as much

and the graphics are this cool right then fucking hell it's going to be amazing is that the first advert you've ever seen? You're acting like you don't want to sell a advertising word.

You've got to be the only person. Because most people have watched that advert. Let me say, most people have watched that advert and gone, oh, Keanu Reeves advertising a video game. What they wouldn't have got is, oh my God, a video game that Keanu Reeves likes? I'm going to get that. Who the fuck

thinks that? Me. That's why I'm going to get that who the fuck thinks that me I've seen of course I've seen other gaming adverts and I've gone alright it's just a load of people running about and doing stuff when I watch someone I respect as an absolute tradesman

of the craft which I'm within I'm like wow this guy it's Keanu Reeves Keanu Reeves has That's how he passes his time. Keanu Reeves has finally decided to advertise a video game. You're the only person on the planet that thinks fucking celebrity

endorsements actually mean something. Mate, everyone I know who has a celebrity who endorses me, all the people I know, they fucking love the stuff that they endorse. Look, mate, I will,

the only things, I am very honourable to the stuff that I will put out there, advert wise. I was with Burger King for a little bit. Yeah.

I did those adverts because I firmly believed at the time that that burger was the best burger in the UK. Okay. If you ask me now, if you phoned me tomorrow, right,

and you said, all right, Tom. Hi, Tom, it's Romesh. How are you, mate? And I'd be like, you all right? And you'd be like, yeah, nice little things coming at the moment. It's like, you know, to advertise a load of encyclopedias. I'd be like, mate, that's not for me on my face. Okay.

So I would phone you because i've got an encyclopedia i want you to to be the face of right yeah okay so let's okay so first of all i'm assuming that i've this is what because it's what people don't understand about you you're a stealth prick so so you're so you're actually so smart there because what you're doing is you you're a stealth prick so so you're you're actually so smart there because what you're doing is you're having a dig what you're saying is ramesh is the type of fucking idiot that would get into encyclopedias in 2020 right that's the question and then of all the people i know i would think who who am i going to get to get this off the ground? I'll fucking phone you up. Can you advertise my encyclopedia?

Just rang Nathan's knowledge of everything. Jazzy encyclopedias. It's like, right, just as a quick one, if a meat company came to you and asked you to advertise it, would you? No.

Why? Because they don't eat meat. Exactly. So if Keanu Reeves doesn't play computer games, he shouldn't be out there fucking advertising them, mate. You don't,

okay, first of all, you don't know that he doesn't play that game. I'll tell you what, if I ever, ever, ever meet him, I will do this. You be Keanu Reeves. Hello, Keanu. How are you, mate?

You all right? Hey, man. Firstly, were you the first person ever to be called Keanu? Absolutely not. It's a very common way of name. I thought you were. Look, I'm a massive fan of your films, Bill and Ted. That's how you start a conversation. I'm a massive fan of your films, Bill and Ted. That's how you start a conversation.

I'm a massive fan of your films. I really like Bill and Ben. I really like Bill and Ted and John Wick and Speed. Brilliant films. Yeah. I'm going to ignore the Matrix trilogy. I didn't like that. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

You didn't like the Matrix film? No, not for me. What do you mean, not for you? I thought it was all right. I don't think it was as good as Speed or Bill and Ted. You thought Matrix wasn't as good as Speed? Yeah, I love Speed. You must have.

You think it's better than The Matrix? I might have to sit and re-watch The Matrix, but it's a lot to get your head around, right? I can't deal with you, mate. I can't deal with you. It is a lot to get

your head around. That's the whole thing of the film. You can't dismiss the Matrix. I'm not dismissing it. It's got its market audience.

Yeah, but speed is like going on the bus, isn't it? You get it? I understand the concept. Speed, yeah, but speed, the speed is like a guy on a bus, isn't it? You don't get it. I understand the concept. Speed, yeah, but speed,

I can go to and go, this is just good. It's just like, I'm in it. I feel it. And yeah. What, do you think Keanu

would have the hump if I didn't mention The Matrix? No, I just, it's just, I'm not being Keanu though,

I'm being me. I feel like you've got to mention The Matrix. Okay. First of all, I wouldn't list, I wouldn't list the films that he's been in in I would just say I'm a fan of your work

Let's go for that Thank you, I know So yeah, I'm actually a big fan Hey man Loved all your work, all the films you've done Cool, cool, thanks Thank you Look

That's alright Question for you, mate What's the score with Cyberpunk? Have you played it much? How far did you get on it? I really loved that game, man. Completed it. Really, did you?

The only way I'd endorse something is if I'd actually played it all the way through and I told... Then let me... I've never watched The Matrix, mate. Why is that a response? Just so I can fucking, like, just basically get even with him. Why is that a response? Just so I can fucking basically get even with him.

How is that getting even with him? Because he's called my bluff with the bloody game, hasn't he? What do you mean he's called your bluff? He's completed the game and now I haven't got a leg to stand on. So I'll say something about the Matrix. Okay.

When you say things like this, I start to wonder if you might be psychotic what you what you've done is you've gone up to kianni ratings right and you said to him first of all i can't imagine with this kind of level of conversation first of all be grateful hasn't already moved away from you all right okay secondly you've gone to what's the deal what's the deal with right what's the deal with, right? What's the deal with Cyberpunk? Have you played it?

That's quite accusatory. And he said, yeah, I have played it, which at the beginning of this chat, 36 minutes ago, which is when we started talking about Cyberpunk, at the beginning of this chat, you went, I just want to know that he's played it. You've now found out that he's played it. And then your revenge, because that's angered you for some reason, finding out that he's endorsed in a game that he's played it. You've now found out that he's played it, and then your revenge, because that's angered you for some reason, finding out

that he's endorsed in a game that he has actually played all the way through, you've gone, well, I haven't watched The Matrix. You know, like they say, they do that in some films. I'd literally say that and I'd walk off. And then he'd be like, who is that cool guy? Okay, you're not in a Farrelly Brothers film,

are you? Well, look, we need to bring this cyberpunk i really wasn't expecting you to um it's been playing on my mind and i haven't talked to anyone how long ago did you buy it uh i brought it on thursday and you know i brought it i downloaded it okay it's Sunday today. Yeah. You've had a hell of a couple of days. I just, yeah, it's just echoed around my head. Fine, fine, fine, fine, fine. we're talking on sunday uh we always record this on sunday i just did sunday brunch this morning yeah um how do you think i came across them i thought you came across really well i i think you looked really good as well your your costume came across really well i i think you looked really

good as well your your costume look cool costume well your outfit you wore um when's the last time you did sunday brunch um i did it in january maybe right so how do you find the i like by the way i enjoy sunday brunch it's a fun little thing to do oh it's a great show it's a great show to do the one thing i get slightly nervous about, so one of the things you said to me, because I didn't realise, I don't know when the camera is, because it's quite a long time to be on live television, right?

Because obviously you have your interview bit, and then you do the cooks or whatever, and you try bits and pieces. But sometimes they'll be on someone else, and then the camera will flash to you without you being aware of it. The first time I knew that they did this is today, when I watched you today.

They did it more than they've ever done before today. Whenever I do Sunday brunch, I always get tweets afterwards saying, you look like you didn't want to be there, right? And now I've spoken to you, I know why. Because I didn't know the cameras were on me. And I've got a resting, bored as fuck face. Oh, mate.

I can tell everyone out there who thinks that Romesh... I've been out for dinner with Romesh and there's just been two of us and I've been talking and that is his resting face, which if there's two people just sitting at a table, everyone else in the restaurant's looking at Rom going, he just doesn't want to be there. He'd rather be anywhere else than where... That's his listening

face. It's actually quite a bad defect in a way that that is your listening face. It's actually your... when you're in-depth listening. Because Tom Kerridge was talking about something really, really interesting. I know you'd be interested in it. And I sort of looked at your face and was like, oh, bless you. Like, you know.

Bless you. Yeah. I thought your bit about biscuits was really cool as well i enjoyed that i agree with what you said about a wafer um okay so you said defect the weird choice of words defect is defect is a perfect choice of word defect is like what you say like a malfunction malfunction. Yeah, that's what it is. You know when like... Your brain is malfunctioned, and that's why you're doing that weird look. Okay, but I'm not having a stroke.

I'm just sitting there. That's what it looks like sometimes. Wow. Do you know, I did this a few years ago. I got asked to do, to judge, there's like a new stand-up competition, right? Oh, good. And these people are doing like their first five minutes.

And I got asked by the woman running the course to like come down and be a judge. And like, because they put some of them through to like the first comedy. So I went down there and turned up. And in front of them, in front of me and them, she goes, now, she honestly said that she goes, now, remember what I said to you about Romesh's face? That he that he doesn't, you know, he's very straight faced and it looked like he's not enjoying it, but he is just listening and watching. She's talking to me like she's talking about me, but she didn't tell me she was going to say that.

So just sort of sit there, I get introduced to this group of people and then suddenly she sort of talks about me like i've got some sort of major like well defect do you mean she's like yeah i've got an all mine's actually worse mate because my go-to is laughing and really being over friendly because i feel so awkward okay well you've just described our relationship no I do I can feel quite awkward at times so I have a big

you know I like I have to laugh along that's why this whole cyberpunk thing has really stressed me out I'm a pretty jovial character most of the time

okay well look we have we have we're 40 minutes we're 40 minutes into this have we got any good questions that we uh i've got i've got something here okay um now again i'm going to be honest with you some of these um so obviously if you've got any problems questions it can be anything at all even if you want to give us feedback on the podcast email us at wolfowpod.com all right yeah um and and some people have done this and we've got one here now i'm going to anonymize this because he's been pretty harsh about somebody right and so if that person sort of listens it's not anyway okay here we go you ready evening evening tom and romesh let's put your name first there i've just finished

listening to your podcast i've been a fan of both of you for a while and i'm delighted you've teamed up for this podcast uh episode two was a particular joy when you discussed romesh in his attempt to look cool in his oversized trousers leather waistcoat and his bandana. This struck home with me in a particular situation I find myself in at the moment. I have a buddy who's a lovely chap, a real lemon squeezer of a fella. I feel like, is a lemon squeezer of a fella a thing? I feel like he's put that in for your benefit. Lemon squeezer is a geezer, yeah. A real geezer of a fella? that doesn't make sense that he's you he's probably that is no one no self-reliant number one cockney why i've been slang that is not how you you'd say he's a real lemon squeezer okay as in he's a real geezer he's a real lemon squeezer of a fella because

it's not a descriptive word um okay unless that's what he loves is lemon squeezing i feel like he's i feel like he's put that in for you a bit. Anyway, his stress sense has always been okay. Very stereotypical, Romesh. No, but it's just that's the kind of shit you say, isn't it?

No, I don't know. Well, because I'm from South London, I tell them that. No, I'm not. I'm basing it on how you actually talk. I don't tell them

that using really a name like... I'd have said ice cream freezer. You're the sort of person that would say, oh, you know, the juice ain't worth the squeeze or something like that something you'd say

mate you've just you've seen that on the podcast okay go on i have a but uh so anyway his dress sense has always been okay albeit he wears t-shirts too small for him in order to show his large biceps. He's particularly proud of these, and these are basically the only thing he trains. However, in recent weeks, his dress sense has taken a sharp downturn. Nick is a short fella, around 5'4". He's purchased a pair of oversized camo trackies for the gym. To accompany these, he's started wearing a pair of high-top air jawns with a rather large tongue.

I think he bought a pair at least one size too big. I say this because they became very misshapen and turned up at the front, a bit like the Iron Shake shoes in 90s wrestling. Given his short stature, he found love of oversized odd-designed clothing. This is a brilliant email, by the way. Really? What, because of the description? It's so descriptive. I know.

Although I would say, like, a pair of high top Air Jordans. I mean, isn't that like one of the coolest shoes you can wear? I don't know what... I would not be buying a new box fresh pair of Air Jordans just to go down the gym. Exactly. This guy's an absolute maverick. This guy is absolutely loving

life, isn't he? Given his short stature and his newfound love of design clothing, he's starting to look real daft and people have been talking. What would be your advice in addressing this with my friend he can be a bit sensitive bless him thanks in advance firstly his actual outfit he's wearing sounds like pretty much what i wear on a daily basis in the fact he's wearing over the size tracksuit bottoms and a pair of high top jordan sets and is it what's he's wearing on his top half is he still wearing a tight t-shirt like wearing tight t-shirts to show off his biceps i mean i don't i think that's and is it what's he's wearing on his top half is he still wearing a tight t-shirt like wearing tight

t-shirts to show off his biceps I mean I don't I think that's a pretty cool that's quite it's quite a Mark Wahlberg

kind of look that um it is I don't think it's that bad is it look if I'm honest with you I feel that

there's look he's using a lot of descriptive nouns about this guy bless him lemon get lemon squeezer of a fella a lot of

very positive things and then he's you said he's used a lot of nouns there and then you've used a verb and an adjective but go on mate i don't even know what verbs and adjectives and nouns are that's that's for a professor somewhere if i can decide yeah that's for a professor that's right that's for someone with a phd to figure out what those are. Anyway, go on. But I'd say a lot of what he's talking about feels like it comes from quite a sort of place of jealousy. Because actually, I'd... Wow. Well, I'd just say that this Nick, who he's mentioned,

sounds like he's actually dressed in quite a cool outfit. He looks like he probably keeps himself in good shape. He's a bit shorter. He's stockier. But, you know, he can't do anything about that. But it doesn't feel like he's, blessing-wise, I mean, if you think he looks that bad,

then I genuinely think you should just turn around to him and say, look, Nick, mate, can I have a word with you? Let's go out for a pint after work, pick him up, take him to the pub, and just sit. You said pick him up. I want to pick him up in your car,

not literally pick him up. Okay, but you know how that sounded. Yeah, yeah. You did that on purpose, didn't you? Yes. Yeah, okay. Take him to the pub. Okay, so you did that on purpose. You just said you feel sorry for the bloke. What happens next? So he takes him down the pipe.

I'll be his short mate. You be this anonymous guy. You be Irene. Okay. Nick, do you want a pint, mate? Yeah, I'd love a pint, mate. Yeah, thanks. What are you doing that face for?

That was a weird accent for Nick. I never thought Nick would talk like that. Why do you think Nick would talk? I think Nick would talk a bit like that. But he's a small, he's quite a small bloke, isn't he? He's not like a

fairytale character. Fine, fine, fine, let's do it. Let's read it. Go on. Hey, Nick, do you want a pint or something, mate?

I don't really like what you're doing with that voice. Why? Well, he sounds quite, because he's used the word lemon squeezer in a lot of places.

And bless him and buddy okay let's let's start again don't hey nick mate do you want um do you want a pint or something buddy yeah mate i'd love like a ipa or something it'd be great oh right yeah still doing that are you um can i get two pints of ipas thank you um there we go thanks mate there we go thanks mate this is good IPA isn't it yeah I don't know who says that but yeah I've never heard somebody say this is good IPA

before but yeah yeah it's what I always say when I'm drinking a drink listen Nick how do I say this your voice has changed a little bit from when we first arrived. It does that when I get nervous. I was going to say,

listen, some of your dress sense recently, a lot of the guys down the gym have been talking about what you're wearing and they think it's slightly ridiculous. Like what in particular? Well, the high-top Jordans with the big... The high-top Jordans?

Do you mean like the most sought-after trainer probably on the market at the moment? Well, the high-top Jordans with the big tongue. The high-top Jordans? Do you mean like the most sought-after trainer probably on the market at the moment? Well, yes. Obviously, they're popular, Nick. But the trouble is, I think because they're

that little bit too big for you, they're turning up at the ends and they look ridiculous, friend. What is going on? I hope you don't mind me saying that. What is going on with you? It sort of it feels like

it just seems like when we first arrived here I thought I was having a drink with a mate and now it feels like I'm on CBeebies when one's in the scheme of breaking bad news i think it's always best to do it in the most decent and wholesome voice that's possible it also detracts the bottoms in the camouflage that are slightly too big for you with the skinny fit t-shirt they look silly nick but it's just i like to have like a bit of like movement and stuff when i'm at the gym and stuff you have to

have loose trackings i mean i'd rather that than sort of show my stuff when I'm at the gym and stuff. You have to have loose trackage. I'd rather that than show my package off to everyone in the gym. Oh, wait, man. Sorry, what? Oh, wait now. Don't say that. That's grotty and disgusting, old friend. What is going on with you? Would you like some...

Basically what I'm saying is you have to be fucking gentle with him. would you like some crit that basically what I'm saying is right you have to be fucking gentle with him that's what I was getting at I've got slightly

different advice I would say his dress sense isn't really any of your business you know I don't mean that I don't mean that

in a rude way what I mean is if he's chosen to dress like that you know how the without being sort of overly kind of generalising or whatever, blokes tend to, and Tom and I have talked about this before,

blokes tend to make their feelings clear on members of the group's dress sense by just riffing the piss out of them. Now, that's how that's kind of normally dealt with. And then it's up to that bloke. You know, for example, we've all done it where you wear something a bit different and you turn up to the pub or wherever and your mates take the piss out of you and then it's up to you then whether you decide i'm going to ride this out and get to a point where they've all accepted this is something i now wear or i'm never going to wear this again that is a that is

the choice of the individual right and so i think you know if you don't like his you know if you don't like what he's wearing, you can say it to him. But the truth is, it sounds like this guy's, like, giving himself a bit of a makeover. Do you know what I mean? He's, like, he's proud of his biceps. He's maybe got a bit of money, so he decided to wear Jordan. I don't know any, by the way, I don't know anybody

that wears Jordans to the gym. That's an incredible decision. Yeah. He must have more money than sense. He must be. I think you're still in character, though, Tom. We've an incredible decision. Yeah. He must have more money than sense. He must be. I think you're still in character though, Tom. We've stopped the role play now. I think that there's a good chance

that he's peacocking down at the gym. So can you explain to me what peacocking is, please? Because I've heard about this a lot and I'm still not convinced I know fully what it means. Peacocking is like a peacock will show its feathers no i know what i know a literal peacock i'm asking what it is in the

context of you using it so a peacock if a peacock finds another peacock attractive it will show it okay again tom tom i i know i know i'm fully aware of what a peacock is and what a peacock does right i'm not asking you to explain sorry, I want you to put yourself in the place of a peacock. You put on basically what you did today on Sunday brunch. You peacocked. You peacocked. You wore a nice denim shirt. You wore nice clothes, so you're peacocking.

That's not peacocking. That's just dressing for a thing, isn't it? You're dressing nice, so people will comment on how nice you looked. But peacocking is like if I'd have worn something not really out there right to sort of draw attention to myself yeah but i mean that no pea green is cool right no you're wearing two shirts that's a fucking peacock boy you're wearing two different shirts okay's a fucking peacock, boy. Okay, got it. You were wearing two different shirts. Okay.

That's a peacock move. Okay. That's a peacock move, is it? That's a flutter of your feathers. Okay. Because it's, mate, it's a big, mate, everyone else on that show is always wearing, like, a polo.

Yeah. Or quite dark crimson colours. Right. You went out there with two very strong colours. Yeah. And also, mate, I, your trainers looked amazing today. Thanks. A few people, a couple of people tweeted me thinking

that I've mismatched my trainers today because I was wearing these trainers that are yellow and blue, where one's yellow, the other one's blue and vice versa. I thought that was a compliment. Well, some people didn't understand it. They thought I was wearing two different pairs of trainers. Like, if I was in a court of law right now, you'd sentence yourself to 100 years in prison.

Because what you've just done is you've just made exactly what I was saying about you peacocking today. Right, you're wearing a very peacocky pair of trainers. Okay, but why does that lead to me going to prison for 100 years? No, because I was just saying, if we were in a court of law... If we were in a court of law where I was defending myself against the accusation of peacocking,

for which the punishment is 100 years. Yeah, right. So what you've got to do is, when you're given that as an example, you've got to take people through those steps. Yeah, right. So if this was a court of law, right, and you've been accused, the judge is like, Romesh Ranganathan, Romesh Jaz Ranganathan,

you are hereby accused of peacocking on Sunday brunch. How do you plead? You'd have gone, not guilty, Your Honour. Right? And actually, in what I've just done, in a very clever way, is got us talking about your trainers. First thing you do about your trainers, oh, yeah, they can be yellow and blue, they're mismatched.

They're different. Right? The judge would look at you and go, Mr. Ranganathan, you have just fallen into Mr. Davis's trap. Okay, okay, okay. I get the point. And I'm not willing to entertain the idea that you did this deliberately any longer. So, fine, I understand what peacocking is now.

Cool. So, yeah, what I would say, mate, is just be supportive. Your mate's found a new look. He's working out. He's got some biceps that he's proud of. And it's Christmas. Just be a mate. Be a mate.

Be a mate and support him. And if you find his dressing so embarrassing, then stop hanging out with him. Yeah. I mean, that's the truth. You grew up with friends. Yeah. I hope we've helped.

Okay. Do you want to do another one? Let's do one more, my brother. Okay, do you want to do another one? Let's do one more, my brother. Okay, another one. Dear Tom and Rob, hoping you can help me with the following problem. I love my sister and I visit her place fairly regularly. However, in the last few weeks, her flat has gone to shit. It's so grim and dirty. How can I tell her to clean it up without being a dick?

Oh, man. Now, first question for you tom yeah um how fussy are you about how somebody's place is when you go around there well i like it to be obviously like clean i i i like a clean house as much as the next person i mean it freaks me out if i go around someone's house and it's quite dirty yeah and i mean i'll be a liar if i was to say that i don't think less of that person when it's like they live in sort of like there's a film we've got a couple of friends who you know it was always just a bit grotty everywhere like jam on the settees and what i hope's my my on the settees and it's just like a bit like there's always just grot and old fucking plates with food on every that's somebody you're friends with now sort of not i'm trying to sort of wean them out of my life a bit because of that

no no there's many reasons okay but to be fair their house is a fair like indication of what they're like as people okay that's that's what i'd say okay let's take so you and i are close friends right yeah if you uh came into my house and it was like a bit shitty or whatever right number one i know how i know lisa and i know that lisa will keep a beautifully lovely home yeah but imagine that that wasn't the case right so you come around it's a bit grim and okay so it's a bit grim you come around on the way back home you're you and katherine are sort of chatting to each other you're like fucking out as a bit and sort of and then you'd sort of decide maybe we don't maybe next time we invite them around to ours rather than going around to theirs right i get that that's a strategy right

but then okay let's escalate it a bit you're then on set at king gary and someone else comes up and goes oh my god i went around uh i went around romesh's house very unlikely by the way but i went around romesh's house and fucking oh it's a right shit tip isn't it what do you what is your strategy then bear in mind you and i are good friends yeah i'd turn around and say yeah i thought it was pretty disgusting and we've We've invited them around to ours from now. I'd be, no, I'd be like, yeah, look, the truth of what I'd do is I'd say to you, is everything okay at the moment with the house and stuff? I mean, one of the good things to do, I always find, if you're going around someone's house,

just say, or do like a sniffing sort of motion and say, oh, have you got pets here? Okay. And then they say no. And then what do you say? And just say, oh, have you got pets here? Okay. And then they say no. And then what do you say? And just go, oh, right. That's weird. That's weird. It smells like a dog in there.

Or a cat. And you say that as soon as you get in, do you? No, no. I don't think it'll bowl around. Also, another thing to do that I always find that's quite clever is really suddenly. But first of all, that first one wasn't clever. So go on. Let's see your other one that's quite clever. It's really subtle. But first of all, that first one wasn't clever. So go on, let's see your other one that's clever. It's run your finger

along a surface. Okay. Don't say anything, but run it along the surface. Just make sure you've just got that eye and then just rub the dust in your fingers like that

a bit and just go, hmm, like that. What, in front of them? Yeah, no, no, no. Not directly in front of them. Just like, say you're all sitting there having some food and someone else is holding court, right? Okay. Just do that. Unlike of them just like say you're all sitting there having some food

and someone else is holding court right okay just do that unlikely at a dinner where you're at but go on we know that you like to dominate but go on no and then you or even if you're talking as you're talking as you're talking so you've already asked me if they've got a pet they said no then you sat down for dinner and i'll just be like that lisa this beef casserole is lovely yeah all right and then i'd just go like that and i'd rub my finger on the table and just go you wouldn't do that you would not do that i've been in someone's house where it's like literally i've my hand stuck to the table where i rested it and it was just disgusting and then i had to go like that and rub it off and she went all her, the table's a bit sticky at the moment.

She was quite mortified, but... Yeah. And what did you say? I said, look, it's a fair negotiation with the rest of the house. You said that? No, I said it's not just the table. Right. The whole house was a bit sticky.

Everything in there. And they didn't even got kids. Yeah. Everything was sticky. Right. And it was just like i smell it like a mustard look i'd say it's your sister right and if i'm going to be honest and i'm going to be quite i am going to be a little bit more sort of careful with my wording

but i think if her house has recently fallen to shit right the people i'm talking about are quite disgusting people and have been for years that's're just very lazy. That's a different situation, isn't it? It's a very different situation. They choose. Two people have got together who have got similar standards of hygiene. Let me say as well, right? Yeah. At times I look at them with sometimes I'm disgusted, sometimes I look

at them and I'm absolutely jealous of them. Because I think you just don't care. I walk around, me and my wife are always cleaning in the house. We're always trying to make the house nice. Do you know what I mean? And actually, for what? At the moment, it's just the two of us here. It could be an absolute pigsty.

But, you know, who am I to judge? But I'd say if it's a recent thing with your sister, this has only happened recently, there might be a little bit more going on. So maybe say to her in a very very decent way how are you and having more of a conversation about you know an indication of like is this is there something more going on than the fact that you've just let your flat turn to shit i wouldn't i wouldn't use those i do think it's excellent advice i don't think i'd use those words no no no but obviously rom that up a bit and

make it a bit more romish well i'm not going to be talking to her sister. But I think, actually, Tom, you've given great advice there. Because I think that's probably, if there's been a sudden change, sit your sister down, have a proper chat with her. Do you know what I mean? See what's going on. And also, maybe you could offer to help. You could go, why don't we have a little bit of a tie-dye?

Because the truth is, when you're going through shit, which your sister might be, might not be, but when you're going through shit and your place is a mess, it actually makes you feel worse. And sometimes all it takes is something getting tied up. You feel a bit better, don't you, Tom? Yeah. I'll tell you what, good old-fashioned cleaning party.

Turn up there with a steamer. And also, I'll tell you what, if you want to say to your sister, one of the things that makes cleaning a lot more fun getting your gadgets sure i don't listen i don't know about cleaning parties the only thing if you want to make this go full circle yeah i saw an advert recently for an amazing steamer i brought the said steamer and it has been an absolute joy i relish using it so that you there you go and who was what happens in the advert the person just runs the steamer around and at the end of state the floor is glistening and there you go you're looking at that thinking that person has actually used that steamer

yeah that's an advert that's an advert i ever saw the actor or actress because i know it's not a real person right and there's no flaws in you tom well done sharp as a razor as always you're gone No flies on you, Tom. Well done. Sharp as a razor, as always. You're gone. If I saw that person, I'd be like, excuse me, can I just say, I recently saw your advert for the steamer, and I brought the steamer on the basis of how you cleaned your floor or the floor in the house in the advert,

and it has been an absolute joy to use. So thank you. Yeah, that's lovely. Well, look, I hope that's helped. Yeah. As always, obviously we're going to take a break over Christmas, but if anything occurs to you, please do feel free to email us at wolfowpod at gmail.com.

Okay, Tom, it's about that time, brother. This is is the last one possibly the last one ever but certainly the last one before christmas can you take us home please judgment what is judgment a word that we throw around when we judge others or is it something more than that is it a sense of thinking and something that courses through your veins? Are you going to judge someone because one day they turn up in a pair of the coolest trainers in the world in the gym with no reason in why?

And although you're looking at them thinking that's my friend who used to have other trainers, now he has cool trainers. Or you're judging someone because they've got a disgusting house and you're worried about maybe there's more to it or maybe they've just let themselves go and this is just going to be how they live their life or maybe you're an actor who has fallen on hard times and now you are out advertising

stuff that you have no idea about and you probably should probably stick to stuff that you do know about rather than like getting people to buy computer games that are completely fraudulent but anyway the word judgment isn't just a word it's a way of life so don't judge love um really feel like you're getting a lot off the chest there what i also liked is you're sort of it's supposed to be you both combined being quite uh dismissive of judgment as a thing but also calling it a way of life it's i actually thought that was one of the better ones no mate i i'm gonna say now i think it's the best one you've ever done yeah i feel like it had a real beginning middle and then it did it did yeah

it's it was very good uh look uh guys thank you so much for listening to the first four episodes of war for now uh we'll be back uh in the new year uh tom is there anything i can't think of i can't think there's only one thing i have left to say sweet sweet listeners have a very merry christmas and we'll see you on the other side uh all right cool have a great christmas love you guys take care care. Bye-bye. All the best.