Wolf and Owl - Episode 42

Episode Date: September 22, 2021

We’re talking… exercise routine recoveries, DOMS and ray guns, airfryer-gate, meat droughts, abattoirs and fast food serial killers. Then after a quick apology, we answer some email questions on a... 40th birthday outfit, Wikipedia pages, BO solutions, feet on train seats and Married at First Sight UK. For any feedback, questions or comments please email us at wolfowlpod@gmail.com - we’d love to hear from you. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:42 Fuck their censorship. Let them see the whole thing. They stay dressed to kill. Never sheep's clothing. Dark enough to turn the sun to the moon. You'll see nothing. All you hear is a huff, a puff, and a... Expect killings. Red spilling and flesh ripping.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Impressive in it. The death bringing, it's head spinning. Just kidding. Every word in this song's about two grown men dressed up as a bird and a dog. Hello, guys. No. Stop what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Put down that pen if you're writing correspondence to somebody. A letter of pen power. Set aside your laptop, unless you're using that to listen to this, in which case don't do that, and tuck yourself in for an hour in the company of the wolf and the owl. Public service announcement. Yo, guys, it's me um is that the wolf uh i've got a frog in my throat i've got a bit of croaky old throat today boy um i'd love to know from our listeners whether you think tom's new voice is sexier than his normal
Starting point is 00:02:39 one because i've got to be honest with you we've been chatting a little bit before we started this recording and i am now nursing what is politely known as a semi you're a sweet boy you don't have to talk to the croaky worst man at the end of the garden i need i need uh let me just get this out the way straight away i need some advice from you because i know you'll be working out quite a lot today Today, I did my first PT session in a while. Shout out, Chrissie Harper. Yeah, Chris. As I left, as I got into my car to drive home from the gym,
Starting point is 00:03:14 I've already started to feel like, you know when you can feel you're going to be immobile the next day? You know, number one, I've told you so many times, and I love you for the fact that you go your own way and you can be an independent thinker, a little morsel at times, but you need to get a ray gun. If you're going to give your life to working out a little bit more, you need to get a ray gun.
Starting point is 00:03:37 And where shall I put that? Next to the air fryer or on top of it? No, mate, seriously, right? Here's how this is going to go down right you go for a workout right you get in uh charlie and theo are playing on the um xbox pro playstation charlie sort of looks you guys oh my god dad you're starting to look more buff and you're like you do a little giggle like you do right you go in your in your fantasy of my house charlie talks to me like he wants to fuck me no i don't know no he charlie is such a sweet boy right yeah
Starting point is 00:04:13 he's got a good heart on him right and he for me he's the one like the others like fio and alex are like they're playing on the game charlie's like you know what that's taking a little time for himself to look better right right i'm gonna i'm gonna show that i've noticed right it's like you know what dad's taking a little time for himself to look better right I'm gonna I'm gonna show that I've noticed right it's like in prison right they're all on A wing
Starting point is 00:04:32 they've noticed you knock around on B wing yeah oh look one of the vulnerable prisoners has come through so when they see you they're like
Starting point is 00:04:38 you know and the other two don't even notice because they're playing I don't know Level Dead or one of their games that they play
Starting point is 00:04:43 right but sweet Charlie notices. Then you go into the kitchen. Lisa's like, does that thing where she scrubs her eyes and she goes, oh my God, who's this guy? And you're like, it's me, silly. And then she says, well, have you been working out? And you're like, well, you know I have.
Starting point is 00:04:56 You dropped me at PT, right? And anyway, then you tighten your bum cheeks and do that walk that you do and you're trying to look hard, right? But about an hour and a half later, your ego sort of starts diluting a bit, deflating, and you start feeling sore. That is the moment, right, when you will reach for your ray gun.
Starting point is 00:05:16 And you would seriously, honestly, it will change your life. I mean, it's incredible. That was, what, two and a half minutes to say exactly the same thing that you said before. You think i should use a ray gun why did we have to why did i have to sit through this twisted fantasy that you've got about what goes on in my house charlie sort of checking my ass out as i walk through the living room i just think it's for you sometimes it's like better I think you find it more palatable when I can
Starting point is 00:05:47 break things down in a story just in case you don't understand what I'm getting at yeah okay fine I mean what I would say is it shows a massive disrespect for
Starting point is 00:05:54 the fact that you know we have a limited time on this earth no your sort of desire your sort of desire to take seven minutes
Starting point is 00:06:02 when 30 seconds would do to explain something do you know what I mean though is what I'm trying to say i knew what you mean before you told that story you think i should use a ray gun one of those whatever they're called the little pummel of things right yeah yeah mate honestly i can just see you now right you're lying there right you're all stiff and you're all achy right in bed right probably fidgeting a bit i'd imagine don't want to like you know i couldn't offend you, right? That ship's sailed,
Starting point is 00:06:26 mate. Then you reach for the ray gun, you put it on your tricep, your bicep, your quads, your hammies, boom. And that's what you,
Starting point is 00:06:35 once you've been, I don't think you work out enough at the moment to call your hamstrings hammies. No. That's something that you progress to. exactly. I hope that one day
Starting point is 00:06:44 I will achieve the level of bellendry that allows me to call them hammies my question to you is this does that stop doms what doms doms was doms okay so this is incredible this what i i started this whole thing trying to stop DOMS. I sit through what feels like half an hour of your fucking gabble and now it turns out you don't even know what DOMS are. What are DOMS? Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Oh, for crying out loud. Mate, not even I've got to that fucking level. Someone said that down the gym and you've done it in the changing room and you're sneaking a little listening to someone else's conversation. I'm talking about something that beginners suffer from. Everyone suffers from it. You go to the gym, you push it a bit hard,
Starting point is 00:07:34 and then the next day you can't walk properly. This is what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, okay. Where I come from, we call that fatigue, okay? But if it's Dom's, I don't even know about Dom's. What I would say to that is where you come from, everyone's calling it wrong. Because it isn't fatigue. It's where you...
Starting point is 00:07:48 Wait, this is so rummish. It's like you basically found a hobby, right? And you're not naturally moving up through the levels. You've literally gone in and gone, oh, what are all the special words you're using? And then someone's like, oh, Dom's is what we use if we're tired. You're like, I'm going to use that. Get a T-shirt made of it
Starting point is 00:08:05 and walk around town and fucking think like you own the place. What is wrong with you? You're in Liverpool at the moment. It's made you a real cop. Do you know that? Honestly, Liverpool Tom really is a piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Listen. Listen, you say what you want about me, but you live in a sweet city. You may be right. It may be possible that I'm using some sort of weird jargon. I thought everybody said that. No, but seriously, if you are getting dumbs, get a rate gun, bro. They're like 200 quid, though, aren't they?
Starting point is 00:08:36 Look, do me a favour. Just text me your address and I'll get one sent over. All right? Because I can't even get through today thinking about you. Because honestly, mate, I'm proud of you for smashing it hard. I genuinely am. Because I've killed it this week. The last two weeks, I've really pushed it
Starting point is 00:08:51 in the boxing. If I didn't have a reg on with me, by my side, when I needed it most... Can I just stop you a second? Because this is air fryer too, this. This could not be more exactly like how you talked to me about the Air Fryer.
Starting point is 00:09:08 And we know now you've been unmasked as a liar and a bullshitter of the highest level in that, okay? But actually, the Air Fryer's been something that's been causing you agony and pain because you realise you bought a piece of shit that you don't use, right? Yeah, but look, we need
Starting point is 00:09:24 to get on to the Air Fryer at some point. There's been a lot of angry emails about that air fry by the way yeah mate i've felt the full backlash um from people in the street um i think i was i never thought i've always sort of wondered about us just sort of freewheeling on this podcast what is eventually going to get us cancelled because something will happen we're going to have to sort of issue an apology on the podcast, delete all the previous episodes, and then you'll never hear from us again. I did not think it would be you
Starting point is 00:09:51 talking about this air fryer, because it has caused a lot of anger. I got stopped in Liverpool just the other day, and a couple said to me they brought an air fryer on the basis that they'd heard me and you talking about it. Not me and you. First of all, don't lump me in with it but this exactly it's exactly what you're like right i did i didn't endorse the air fryer don't pull me under the bus with you right you were raving about the
Starting point is 00:10:15 plane going down are you telling me you're not going to sit next to me yeah i'll sit next to you right but i'm not going to take the blame for the one being, like, putting the fucking pilot to sleep. Right. They stop me. And then I go through my DMs, and I realise that quite a few people... Look, Air Fryers, they seem to have a very, very, very, very strong fan base. Passionate.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Passionate. Yeah, very, very passionate. You know, I'll tell you what, if any of these people were football fans, they'd be hardened, probably hooligans. They'd be what's known as ultras. They'd be a firm. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:10:46 they'd be, and fucking quite a formidable one at that. I've had a lot of messages and if I'm honest with you, like, and actually some people have just been offering to help me where it comes to sort of trying to work the air fryer and trying to sort of see if there's a way of actually sort of finding my love back for that sweet air fryer so you know to that end um i will say now and you know this you can quote me
Starting point is 00:11:11 on this is i will be trying to do stuff in the air fryer one more time i want an incredible quote thank you for sharing that what what what a massive commitment so you so can i just let's just get this i think this might be a world fan exclusive tom can i just get this absolutely right you are going to try to use the air fryer again is that right is that you're willing to say that on this podcast that you're going to you're going to try the air fryer again look there's been some incredible things sent over yeah obviously there's been some people who are just like very vicious in their uptake but there's been people sort of pinging over really fun and quirky little ideas and things i can do and add it keep it in there longer add a little bit more oil shake shake it all these things and you know i'd like to say to everyone out there
Starting point is 00:11:58 for our community i never meant to let you down. I always seek your love and affection. Do not forget your dying king. It's incredible that even in that humility, you managed to show a little bit of ego there. We got sent a picture of a woman using her ninja air fryer. Is it a ninja you've got? Oh, I haven't got a ninja. I wish I had one of those. Why? You don't like the air fryer you've got? Yeah you've got yeah but that one just sounds cool so she's taken a photo
Starting point is 00:12:28 right of her ninja with the bacon going in right yeah pre-cooked yeah and they've taken another photo of the ninja with the bacon out looking very crispy nice maybe she was just trying to sort of entice you into eating meat again yeah i, if you were going to entice me back into eating meat, it would be bacon. Bacon would be my gateway drug. Well, you know that everyone might be coming to Romesh. What? You know that, have you not heard that there could be a meat drought in the UK?
Starting point is 00:12:59 Oh, yeah, I did hear that, yeah. Yeah, I did hear that. I mean, it doesn't affect me, obviously, because I don't give a shit about that. Well, no, Johnny, I'm all right. You've got to think about the other people, right? Little Theo, Charlie, Alex, Lisa, your family, right? Sure. They all love meat.
Starting point is 00:13:15 They're all carnivores. Every one of them. How real is this thing? How real is this? That we're going to have a meat show? Listen. Is this, because I was sort of reading it initially and I was just thinking this is... You know, it's the type of shit
Starting point is 00:13:27 that they put in the papers, just, you know, sensationalism. I heard it before the papers. I heard it before the papers. Okay, let's hear it. How did you hear it before the papers? Stu, the sound guy on the job I'm doing, came sprinting up to me
Starting point is 00:13:38 and he said, have you heard? And I was like, what? And he went, there might be a meat show. Because obviously me and him talk about meat and stuff quite a lot. And what did you do? Fall to your knees like the end of Planet of the Apes? No. No, I was like, what? And he went, there might be a meat shortage. Because obviously me and him talk about meat and stuff quite a lot. And what did you do? Fall to your knees like the end of Planet of the Apes? No.
Starting point is 00:13:48 No, I just went, you've got to be fucking joking, mate. We can't run out of meat. That's like running out of air. And then he just said, no, seriously, mate. Yeah, he'd been looking into it. I think he'd found like a Reddit link or something. And yeah, he was fucking, I still don't think he's himself. I don't even know if he recorded
Starting point is 00:14:05 any sound for the rest of the day. He was absolutely destroyed by it. So, yeah. How upsetting for you would it be if we did ever meet Shortage? How much mate are you putting away on a weekly basis? The truth of the matter is, and you know me,
Starting point is 00:14:21 is since my friendship with you has blossomed more and more, right? And not just my friendship, my, I hate to say this because I don't want it to pull out that arrogant side of you, but I do sort of look up to you sometimes and actually think you are a very clever person.
Starting point is 00:14:38 So since, you know, you've been sort of, not brainwashing me, but you've sort of talked about, you know, these vegan treats and little things. I have, I've lent, I'd say I'm 75% to 8% vegetarian vegan now. Really? Genuinely, yeah. Mate, I will tell you this.
Starting point is 00:14:54 The fake chicken on the market is incredible. We've said this before, right? You know, I probably now, maybe twice a week, I'll have a roast dinner and maybe two other times I'll have meat now. On set, I'll always have the vegetarian option. Wow. That's two of my meals a day. Maybe three.
Starting point is 00:15:13 That is big. Yeah, boy. And chat at Liverpool because they've got some delectable places where you can have vegetarian or vegan food. But are you slightly, despite your sort of switch to vegetarianism, are you not like slightly panicking about this i mean it's not just me is it it's like yeah the way they're making out is like we're not going to be out of christmas yeah but look the truth of it man people love me um
Starting point is 00:15:35 yeah it's weird as well because if i you know if i'm having a bowl about you know and i sort of leave the sort of city landscapes and i start to walk around fields just because i want to get out in the nature mate i always see cows pigs you know chickens so i'm like what are these guys obviously they're sort of ones that are for other uses you know um so yeah i mean it feels like obviously we'll probably have to turn on you know ones that aren't sort of set out for that you know maybe the breeders well that is that's a really dark insight into it. It's a dark point. So are you saying that if these supermarket shortages continue, you might take it upon yourself
Starting point is 00:16:12 to just go and like chop the head off a cow in a field nearby or something? No. Because you live in amongst farmers. Yeah, I live in farmland. What I do is I'll probably just start to, I'll probably go to all the farms near me, knock on the farmer's door and say,
Starting point is 00:16:25 hello, Mr. Farmer, I hope you're well, mate. Look, I don't know if you've seen the papers, and the Street of Sound guy told me that we are running out of meat. Look, you need to get in that old field there and make some pretty tough decisions. So let me know if you want to chat over, because I realise it's tough, but that's what we need. People need me.
Starting point is 00:16:45 I actually don't need me as much as others because I'm probably 75% vegetarian now because my friend Romesh is. And you'd say all that in a monologue, right, before allowing him to respond at all? No, I'd let him say, oh, hi, hello, Tom, or whatever. And then, yeah, I'd probably just sort of say,
Starting point is 00:17:01 look, spread the word to other farmers because I've got other stuff on. I can't be telling everyone. Spread the word to other farmers because I've got other stuff on. I can't be telling everyone. Spread the word to other farmers. It's a fucking lunatic wandering around asking to get dibs on your livestock.
Starting point is 00:17:11 No, I'm not killing them myself. You know, a lot of abattoirs are closing in this country as well. Why? Because, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:18 I think, I don't know. But I just know there's a lot of old abattoirs that I've done quite a lot of filming in different areas over the last six months. Oh, I a lot of filming in different areas over the last six months
Starting point is 00:17:25 and the amount of time Oh I forgot about this because you film all over the place one of your favourite things when you turn up to a location is to check out
Starting point is 00:17:31 the local abattoir isn't it? No but you know you get a driver who's a bit keen to tell you about his local town
Starting point is 00:17:41 and look if there's one thing I really fucking admire it's someone who takes pride in their fucking the place they come from right but you know quite a few times i've gone oh that used to be the old abattoir and at first i'm like oh that's one old abattoir i'm gonna tell you now rob i can count on both hands the times i've heard that you can count on both hands yeah so i don't know what i'm not i'm
Starting point is 00:18:02 not entirely sure what point you're making it's at least like 9 it's at least 9 9 times yeah I don't think I've ever heard anyone point out a current or past abattoir in my life how many times do you get into like a real chat with the driver though
Starting point is 00:18:18 I do talk to the driver but abattoirs just don't come up he probably looks at you and goes that's the last thing he wants to hear about he's like, would I tell... Oh, yeah, that's not an insult. Oh, but I might not want to hear about abattoirs. What do you think it is?
Starting point is 00:18:32 No, it's a bit... So when you get in a taxi, the guy goes, oh, this guy, I'll tell you what, he'll fucking love some abattoir chat. No, but look, I wouldn't turn around to, like, a kid and go, oh, have you heard the story of Freddy Krueger?
Starting point is 00:18:44 Because they'd be terrified, right? For you, it's like that's the last thing. The bloke's probably sitting there thinking, don't mention abattoirs, don't mention abattoirs. I don't think abattoirs are spoken about as freely and as regularly as you seem to think they are. Mate, I can tell you now, I've had a good number of conversations about,
Starting point is 00:19:02 it always starts off with someone going, there's your old abattoir. And then what do you say? I go, what, is it closed down? And he goes, no, it's just a really old abattoir. What the fuck do you think? I think it's good for people to see abattoirs. Because I sort of, you know when people,
Starting point is 00:19:24 you know when people really like are aware of, you know some people go and like they'll kill the animal themselves or they'll go check out an abattoir and stuff like that. I think it's good, you know, to be aware of what the process is. Do you know what I mean? I think that the less kind of, the thing I'm sort of less on board with is people just completely disassociating themselves from the process that takes the food to get, I'm getting a bit sort of wanky and sort of no no no i agree i mean i
Starting point is 00:19:49 agree but you know that sort of thing where you just go i don't want to think this used to be an animal my worry is right because i actually agree with you on this one yeah i do actually you've made a very valid and good point my big worry would be right if you got someone to and like said oh if you want to have a chicken you've've got to kill it. Right. That person kills a chicken, but that actually enjoys the killing part of it more than the eating part. And then becomes a serial killer. And then everyone's like fucking out. There's a serial killer on the loose and everyone's like, I knew we shouldn't have listened to Ramesh. Do you know what I've got from that is that you've got no idea what serial killer means. No, he likes killing chickens, so he starts going out
Starting point is 00:20:26 and killing humans. Right, so McDonald's is a serial killer. Is it really? Well, how many chickens do you think McDonald's kill? Well, especially Ali's Beef Burgers, but probably uh I'd say... No, you're right. They're only knocking out a couple of nuggets a day. You're absolutely right. I don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:20:41 I probably would say, in my look, don't quote me on this, 10,000, 15,000 a month. I don't even know if you fucking know what you're doing there. 10,000, 15,000 chickens a month you think are killed by McDonald's?
Starting point is 00:21:06 Yeah. I think it's more likely that 10,000 to 15,000 have been killed since we started this podcast. Really? Wait, how many? Are you being serious? Well, they put other stuff in it, though, don't they? Sure.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Yeah, that's what we can all cling on to. Look, if there's anyone out there who's a specialist in, you know, the abattoir life or whatever and how many chickens... Do you want me to look up how many... Yeah, have a look. How many chickens the McDonald's kill? Do you want me to look that up?
Starting point is 00:21:32 Yeah. I mean, you look at... Right, if it's more than 15,000, that is a small village. Yeah. What a weird village. What, just completely populated by chickens? Are we living in a fucking hard menu animation? Hold on. How many chickens are
Starting point is 00:21:48 killed by McDonald's? I mean, it's auto-filled KFC there, which makes sense. Well, you forget about KFC because they don't use the same chickens, so they're killing chickens as well. Probably more, actually, because especially all they eat is chickens.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Okay. The company per year is responsible for the deaths of billions of chickens. Wow. It hasn't given an exact number. Second largest purchase of chicken in the world. Who's the first? KFC? I believe so.
Starting point is 00:22:23 I mean, they've said billions, but in the UK alone, McDonald's serves over 30 million chickens a year. Jesus. Okay, look, we need to look at this, guys, because seriously, that is a lot of chickens, man. That's a lot more than I anticipated. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:22:39 I can't believe you thought it was 10,000 to 15,000. Like McDonald's has six outlets. And chicken isn't that popular. Well, I think we've killed too many chickens this week, Dean. I reckon the fucking Taj Mahal down the road from here does more than that. They must kill even more cows. So that's the worrying thing. cows so that's a worrying thing
Starting point is 00:23:06 yeah it's a really worrying thing so anyway listen I don't know about the meat shortage I mean we're speaking from a
Starting point is 00:23:10 position of complete ignorance yeah maybe if there's any meat experts there's a lot to go over there just get in touch email the
Starting point is 00:23:18 podcast I mean obviously you know so we might be done with this but yeah just email in probably sort of, we might be done with this, but yeah, just email in probably sort of Thursday time. We do a lot of this, asking people
Starting point is 00:23:30 to email in, and then we don't ever really follow it up, do we? In all fairness, we have no plan on any of this. I mean, some people are still listening to old episodes, so just so you know, I'm still getting emails. The Swan is still having to wade her way through emails that say Romy's a sweet soul-like.
Starting point is 00:23:45 And then it'd be a picture of, like, Oscar the Grouch or whatever. We're still getting those. I remember that. Oh, it was so funny that time. Did you get any pictures of people's roast dinners this weekend? I did get some Instagram, like, sent on my DMs. Yeah, good. So thanks for that.
Starting point is 00:24:01 That was off your Insta story, wasn't it? What did you say? I just said it'd be quite nice to send you pictures of Zemra's dinners and then we'll tell everyone when the live dates are. Yeah. We've also got to apologise to the listeners, Tom. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. I think we have to earnestly put our hands up here. Do you want me to lead or do you want to?
Starting point is 00:24:21 No, you can lead if you want. Because I'm not entirely sure you know what we're talking about, so it'd just be good to know um followers listeners lovers people we call kin we are very very sorry that we didn't uh release a bonus episode this week due to unforeseen circumstances out of our control uh we we weren't able to record it we we feel very bad about this we value your listenership and um we will endeavor to do better in the future love love love tom that's so wonderful of you because what you've neglected to mention is it is entirely my fault that we can do the hey hey hey i want you to know one thing and this is what I'll get told upon my back.
Starting point is 00:25:06 In the case of the wolf and owl, in the case of Rom and Tom, there is no you or me. There is simply a we. Will you get all of those words? Well, no, probably just like, I don't know, like, just we. Something like that. Just we? On your back? Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:27:42 says dear wolf owl and the lovely swan I love the podcast look forward to it each week just quickly do you remember the first time we ever received an email from a an animal
Starting point is 00:27:53 yeah from one of the animals and now it's a beautiful thing that this is correlated into like a zoo of friends and stuff yeah somebody did make the point
Starting point is 00:28:01 though that a lot of people sort of gravitate towards birds yeah yeah that's I think because yeah people maybe want to be like you or lisa yeah don't forget our land uh landfibians absolutely don't forget our landfibians uh dear wolf alan the lovely swan love the podcast i need your advice please i'm turning 40 in october and i've planned a girl's day out with my friends. I've been unhappy with my appearance for years so this
Starting point is 00:28:26 year I worked my arse off to lose three stone. Wow. I could feel good about myself on my 40s. Good girl. The penguin child. Here's the issue. Some of my friends have requested to meet up with me the week before to give me my outfit for the day. I don't know what it is. Some fancy dress I assume. I had no idea they would do this.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I've already bought an outfit. I don't want to look like an idiot and I hate confrontation and letting people down. I feel backed into a corner. I feel like if I just turn up without the outfit I'll add an atmosphere to the day. Am I being too precious? I feel gutted and that no matter what I do I'm going to feel crap about it. Your faithful listener, The Penguin.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Yo, The Penguin, listen I think in a time like this you've worked your path, you've lost three stone, but you've probably gained something too you've probably gained a little more confidence about yourself because it's incredible it's an amazing thing
Starting point is 00:29:14 me and Ron we work out a lot but to lose that amount of weight that's quite staggering and you should be very proud of yourself and I'm sure your friends will be proud of you too number one you don't know. Your friends could have picked you out an outfit that is, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:29 that would be great, you know, with your weight loss. And it could be something that they've looked at you and thought, oh, you know what, she looks great. Let's get her this thing and let's get her a dress or whatever. And she's going to feel really good about herself. If it is a wacky, silly outfit, I think, you know, you should, I think, be earnest and be honest and say, you know, girls, I feely silly outfit i think you know you should i think be earnest and be honest and say that you know girls i feel really incredible about myself you know i've worked
Starting point is 00:29:50 towards the goal if this is my 40th and uh i want to look as good as i possibly can um and you know i've got this outfit in mind something that you know i i you know i want to feel really special about today i don't want to be sort of in a you know i don't know like a sort of like penguin costume or dressed as you know one of those big pairs of trousers with the braces it looks like you've got like a little alien on your legs like you you want to look like and feel amazing you want to feel like you know a strong 40 year old woman uh and i think the older you get i think if your friends don't turn around and go, yeah, good for you actually go for that. Then, um,
Starting point is 00:30:26 yeah, I think the problem lies in their court, not in yours. Yeah. It's their serve or it's them to reply back. Um, have an amazing day. Dress to impress.
Starting point is 00:30:36 And as I always say, go get it. Do you? Lovely, lovely advice there. Uh, uh, Penguin,
Starting point is 00:30:43 listen, as Tom said, it's possible that they've they've got you they might have got you some amazing some amazing designer outfit that they they want to treat you to uh on your birthday hopefully it's not that balenciaga number that kim kardashian will topical uh no but the truth is it's more likely i think i don't know am i basing this on what blokes would do but it's more likely it's think, I don't know, am I basing this on what blokes would do, but it's more likely it's something a bit silly. You do not have to do anything you don't want to.
Starting point is 00:31:09 It's your 40th birthday. It's supposed to be an amazing day for you to have a great time. And you've worked to feel good about yourself and build up some sort of... Listen, you didn't need to lose a three stone to feel good about yourself, but it helped you do that. Do you know what I mean? It's like, that's what you wanted to do.
Starting point is 00:31:25 You've done it. You've achieved it. Congratulations for doing that. You have every right to feel absolutely incredible on your birthday. And if this outfit isn't going to make you feel like that, your friends need to understand that. And if they don't understand that, then they're not proper friends. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:31:40 It's like, you're not letting people down. You're not being too precious. You do not have to do anything you don't want to do. It's like you only turn 40 once. So it's a big day for you. You've worked hard to look good for it. Your friends should support your desire to look as good as you possibly can. I hope you have an amazing day.
Starting point is 00:32:00 It's going to be great. Yeah. And as always, sending pictures of your 40th to the podcast. Please do not. Genuinely. I 40th to the podcast please do not genuinely I hope it goes well but do not send any pictures thank you though
Starting point is 00:32:11 but look Penguin you're doing nothing wrong tell your friends and your friends will probably understand they'll probably go totally get it we just thought it would
Starting point is 00:32:19 be a nice thing but don't worry about it and you're not letting anyone down okay good luck to you I hope you have a wonderful wonderful time.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Yeah. Did we get a bit sort of earnest there? I think honesty sometimes is the best way. I think there's many different emotions that we carry in the locker of this podcast. And sometimes you've got to reach for a top shelf and sometimes you get something off the middle shelf. Just remember empathy, emotion, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:42 honesty, you know, they're all decent emotions. I knew you were, when I heard you sort of struggling for the third word, but I wonder what it's going to come out with. And you went with something that isn't a word at all. So well done to you. Okay. This is from Mr. A good morning can i just say he's really like that's a is that his actual name or that's just yeah that is his actual name mr a yeah you're absolutely right no it might be spelt like a y e or something you mean that'd be mr i wouldn't it oh yeah
Starting point is 00:33:21 oh yeah it's weird so that. Shall I carry on, or do you want me to wait for you to sort of unpick this? No, no, I'll think about both things when you're done. Okay, fine, fine. Well done. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Not quite sure who this should be directed to, but I've noticed that the Wolf's Wiki page has been tampered with. Apparently, you're an air fryer engineer. Wow. And are 62 years old. they did see you're a sweet soul which is obviously true having a glance at the owl's wiki page everything appears in order
Starting point is 00:33:52 there we go that's a nice little insult to me nobody could be asked to do a little joke on my wiki page do you see these people as fans pricks or bellends and does the owl get it oh there goes predicted my fucking response and does the owl get, oh, there he goes, predicted my fucking response. And does the owl get annoyed that his wiki page has been left alone? You've probably got a card on your wiki page, so people can't go there.
Starting point is 00:34:11 That information is sacred, you know. One of the things I like to say, you know, if people want to find out more about me, go to my Wikipedia. That's the number one source.
Starting point is 00:34:19 I think Wikipedia, I've, do you know, I've never really looked at mine, so I wouldn't know that, that people are putting up like, wacky fun stuff. That's cool. I don't think., I've, you know, I've never really looked at mine, so I wouldn't know that, um, that people are putting up, like,
Starting point is 00:34:27 wacky fun stuff. That's cool. I, I don't think. You've never, you've never, you've never looked at your Wikipedia. You, you genuinely expect me to believe that you have never looked at your Wikipedia page.
Starting point is 00:34:36 I don't, I haven't looked at it for years. It's, mine literally, that, honestly, genuinely, last time I looked at it,
Starting point is 00:34:41 it was like, actor and comedian, from, I think, like, Coydon, that was like actor and comedian from, I think, like Coydon, that was it. Okay. So what does it say now? Okay, do you want to read it out to you?
Starting point is 00:34:53 Yeah, yeah. Tom Davis, born 27th of April, 1979, is an English actor and comedian from London, best known for his role as D.I. Sleet in the BBC three comedy Murder and Successful, and as Gary King Senior in the BBC three comedy Murder and Successful, and as Gary King, senior in the BBC sitcom King Gary. Before television,
Starting point is 00:35:10 Davis worked as a scaffolder, market store trader, air fry developer, part-time England hooligan, and stand-up comedian. When his friend was a... When his friend was working as a runner on Bo Selector, they gave some videos of their own comedy sketches to Lee Francis, who then invited davis to appear on the show he appeared in various comedy
Starting point is 00:35:30 roles on tv over the following years in 2015 he co-created and starred in merging successful the semi-improvised show which celebrity dressed myself di sleep solve a fictional crime became a cult hit in 2016 davis was named a baFTA Breakthrough Brit and appeared in the films Free Fire and Prevenge. And then it's got all your sort of writing credits. Oh, it's got the podcast on there. Oh, is it? We've seen that. Someone's, oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:35:55 So, yeah, no. I mean, that's pretty much, you know. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't sound 69. How do you feel about that? How do you feel about that as a summary of what you've done so far? If I'm honest with you, yeah. Look, you know, it's a nice stopgap for someone to have a little look at.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Yeah, but I think if anyone really wants to know me, just get in touch. We'll have a chat. Don't judge me off a Wikipedia page. Absolutely right. I think that's the most sensible way to do it. If you want to find out about someone, contact them directly and speak to them.
Starting point is 00:36:24 It's great. What does yours say? I bet yours is really long because you've written an essay on yours, haven't you? Done all your homework. Took me a while to fact-check all of this and get it all the way I want it. Jonathan Romesh Ranganathan. Oh.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Oh, I love that your name's Jonathan. He's an English actor, comedian, presenter. He's known for his deadpan enough and self-deprecating comedy. Romesh has made numerous appearances on television comedy panel shows. In 2016, he co-presented It's Not Rocket Science on ITV. Oh, my God. Jesus, that's like... No offence, right?
Starting point is 00:36:59 You've done some fucking brilliant shows. Straight away, I'm lost. I'm like, oh, what? You've done some cracking TV. Why straight away i'm lost i'm like oh what you've done some cracking tv and what did you put that about yourself i i've had nothing to do with it can we just get this clarified because you're saying it as if that's his fact there are people listening now that are going to think that i actually did this he's also been a regular panelist on the apprentice your fire just you know what just quickly like that that last show you said about
Starting point is 00:37:23 that i'd be putting that down to Jonathan, like your aura ego. That's the show he made. Romesh is all the good stuff. Jonathan did that show. Yeah, it turns out it was rocket science to get a second series of that. He also has been a regular panelist
Starting point is 00:37:36 on Apprentice You're Fired, Play to the Whistle, and the Museum of Curiosity. This is actually so cool. I love you to death, right? But also, none of these are like you've won a fucking bafta you've got like the best travel show on television and none of this is like if what if i'm fucking an investor and i'm fucking like fucking looking around to invest
Starting point is 00:37:58 i'm not invested in this guy you need to get on this get on this mate well no it doesn't matter does it here you go no they've updated it in 2020 Ranganathan won the best the BAFTA TV award for best features in 21 he won the BAFTA award
Starting point is 00:38:12 for best entertainment there you go you've been listening to us say what four people might have played to the whistle oh my god they've got stuff
Starting point is 00:38:18 about my personal life in here what's it say Ranganathan was born in Crawley to Sri Lankan Tamil Hindu parents he was raised as a Hindu and still identifies What's it say? Ranganathan was born in Crawley to Sri Lankan Tamil Hindu parents. He was raised as a Hindu and still identifies as one. He suffers from a right-sided ptosis, which caused lazy eyes as a child.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Wow. He taught maths at Hazelwood School in Crawley and the Beacon School, Banstead, as a freestyle rapper under the name Ranga, once reaching the finals of a UK freestyle competition. Ranga Nathan is vegan, having been vegetarian up until 2013. He's a supporter of Arsenal Football Club. Fucking hell, this is actually so boring, I can't be arsed to read the rest of this.
Starting point is 00:38:55 You know how it's going to end, didn't you? Yeah, that's true. Well, I don't know how it's going to end. Based on how it tends to have gone for males in my family, it would be death at 62 of heart disease. Oh, sweet roll is it saying anything about at least from the kids yeah it does i've closed it now okay well yeah i mean let an answer to your question uh mr a um if someone's going to take the time and write some witticisms upon my Wikipedia page, and it brings them joy, and it makes someone else crack a smirk when they're reading through it,
Starting point is 00:39:29 then go for it. Enjoy yourselves. And, yeah, I bet you know your will. And, you know, to be fair, me and Robert have just sat here and read our pages and quite a lot of enjoyment from them. So, yeah. What is going on with you?
Starting point is 00:39:42 What do you mean? What? That sort of response. What do you mean? What? That sort of response. What do you mean? Are you trying to go mainstream? What's going on with you? No. Why are you responding to this email like we're on Blue Peter?
Starting point is 00:39:59 I think it's losing a beard. I think it has made me more like, what's his name? Richard Bacon. I was thinking of Kevin Bacon but he definitely didn't do Blue Peter yeah
Starting point is 00:40:09 when you get off when you get off the show that you're working on yeah are you going to grow the beard straight back
Starting point is 00:40:15 yeah was there any part of you that asked if you could keep the beard you couldn't have the beard on could you for the show
Starting point is 00:40:20 no no no no it'd look crazy yeah if I'm honest with you it's grown on me a little. Well, not grown on me. She obviously has grown on me. But yeah, I've got more use to it now. What does Catherine think of it?
Starting point is 00:40:30 She hates it. She hates my bald face. Yeah. And if I'm honest with you, I love you with all my heart. Yeah. But, you know, looking at your delicious beard
Starting point is 00:40:40 at the moment, and yours does look so nice at the moment. Yeah, but I don't like these little badgery patches of grey mate mate seriously
Starting point is 00:40:46 it makes you look really wise and noble oh yeah that's sexy isn't it no I tell you what you look like and this will give you a little bit of a
Starting point is 00:40:54 this will charm you like I've got my little snake playing for your flute out you look like a rapper who's come back after like sort of 15-20 years
Starting point is 00:41:03 of sort of bringing up his family and now you're releasing a really sick album. And you're on fucking MTV Cribs and whatever and trying to say, oh, look, I'm back and I've got my new album out. When a rapper comes back after 15, 20 years, it's one of the most tragic things you can say.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Yeah, I know, but that's what you look like. I'd love you to name me a rapper that's come back after going away to have a family that has made a good album. It hasn't happened. So what you're saying is I look like a... What you're basically saying is I look like a tragic, sad figure who's desperately trying to grasp onto the past instead of accepting where he is in life.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Thank you for that. I think you look, like, sort of cute. Yeah is in life. Thank you for that. I think you look like, sort of cute. Yeah. No rule. Okay. Time for another email, I think. Hi,
Starting point is 00:41:53 Rom, Tom and Lisa. After hearing about the BO, after hearing about the BO sitch, I thought I would share something I saw on TikTok. This is when you were talking about having the worst BO you've ever had. Yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:42:04 yeah. On set. After hearing about the BO sitch, I thought I would share something I saw on TikTok. This is when you were talking about having the worst BO you've ever had on set. After hearing about the BO stitch, I thought I would share something I saw on TikTok on how to manage underarm BO. I've seen that dabbing glycolic acid on your underarms will completely eliminate body odour. After getting laser hair removal, I've noticed that I've smelt a lot... What do you mean, what?
Starting point is 00:42:21 Put an acid on your armpits? It's not a sulfuric acid, okay? It's a different type of acid. You're not going to burn your skin or anything. After getting laser hair removal, I've noticed that I've smelt a lot more, but I'm yet to try the glycolic acid. Okay. Tom, let me know how
Starting point is 00:42:38 you get on and see if you get good results. I might give it a go, too. I'm not trying it. I'm not going to be a fucking ewe guinea pig. Look, I'm'm gonna shout out some people have reached out to me who have told me about using mitchum antiperspirant apparently that's the strongest one you can possibly use on your armpits um in today's economy saving money is like an extreme sport coupon clipping promo code searching it takes skill speed sweat unless we're talking kudos new phone internet and streaming bundle with the happy stack you can sit back and stack up the
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Starting point is 00:43:37 on my shipments? How do I find all the... Also FedEx. Impressive. Is there a regulatory specialist I can ask about? FedEx. Oh. But let's say that... FedEx. What? FedEx impressive is there a regulatory specialist I can ask about FedEx oh but let's say FedEx what FedEx thanks no more questions always your answer for international shipping FedEx where now meets next today something is coming Kong Godzilla they can feel it. Fight together. They're teaming up. Or face extinction. Godzilla Kong, the new empire. Now playing only in theaters.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Also, I know the area of Mitchum quite well, and I didn't know there was a developer of deodorants there, but that is what I'm going to be using when I've got to wear that tracksuit that I was wearing. So shout out to Mitchum. That is Mitchum deodorant. I haven't brought any yet but I will buy some so you're shouting out a product you haven't even used yet
Starting point is 00:44:28 no I'm just saying that quite a few people have got in touch I haven't tried it yet but I'm going to use it why don't you just say I don't want to buy this stuff can Mitchum please send me some just be open about it look I will buy it in the next week
Starting point is 00:44:42 so in 6-7 days I buy some mitra and deodorant um if i'm not sent if none gets sent to me beforehand actually also i wanted to shout out another i know that we've been very um aviation heavy on this one um yeah but also uh just to shout out because at the time of need dove also came to my rescue what did they say no dove anti-perfume uh no i just used that that on my underarms women's stuff and it was actually at the time of need, Dove also came to my rescue. What did they say? No, Dove antiperspirant. No, I just used that on my underarms. Women's Dove. And it was actually stronger than any men's antiperspirant I've ever
Starting point is 00:45:12 used in my life. So anyone who's slagging off Dove as a company, because it doesn't sound like as tough as Mitchum or Lynx, Dove is actually really fucking incredible, man. Well done. Yeah, shout out to Dove. And shame on you, all these people that are slagging it off. I don't wear deodorant.
Starting point is 00:45:29 What? Yeah. I've never noticed you smell either. I just don't wear deodorant. You smell really nice. You smell like a baby. Yeah, that's why. I wear aftershave, but I just don't wear deodorant.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Is that weird? I mean, do you know what? I'm thinking about it. I'm just thinking. I don't think I've ever really seen know what? I'm thinking about it. I'm just thinking. I don't think I've ever really seen you sweat. I do sweat a lot. You have seen me sweat. Not loads.
Starting point is 00:45:50 I do sweat a lot. But then you shower. How often do you shower? Once a day. There we go. Sometimes twice. Sometimes twice. What do you mean, there you go?
Starting point is 00:45:59 Doesn't everyone shower once a day? Sometimes I shower or bath twice a day. Depends. Yeah, me too. I love it. But although I don't think that's epically all right now. once a day. Sometimes I shower or bath twice a day. Depends. Yeah, me too. I love it. But although, I don't think that's epically alright now.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Well, you know what I've been getting really into is baths. That's worse. Really? Yeah. Why? Because it's more water.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Can I just say something, right? Please do. This is one thing that really pisses me off. There's all these scientists in the world, right? And I know that we've had a pandemic and I know that...
Starting point is 00:46:22 Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Science, go fuck yourself. Let's hear this. Go on. All I keep hearing about is the ozone layer and melting ice caps, right? And that we're going to have more and more, like, and then we're running out of water. I'm like, can't we just use the water from
Starting point is 00:46:35 the ocean for baths and stuff and just have it cleaned and the salt gone? Yeah, but that, yes, you can, Tom, but that has an environmental impact as well. You use your water, it goes away, it's got to be clean, treated, put back into the thing, and then it's got to be all heated.
Starting point is 00:46:55 You know, all of that, all of that has an impact. You know that, right? Yeah, I know that. I just feel it's sad, you know, sitting here chatting and, you know, trying to keep our chins up, but it's a world that is not in in that distant future that is like we yeah there might be no meat to eat and no baths or showers yeah sure let's have a look at ourselves guys yeah no
Starting point is 00:47:14 absolutely right and i think that's uh yeah when people are sort of figuring out how to solve these problems maybe just have a look at yourself thank you Tom. I look forward to seeing that on your Instagram later on. Hi, Swan Wolf Al. I've got a pet hate I want to discuss. It's people that put their feet on the seats on public transport. I've attached a photo of an unknowing culprit on my train this morning that is not only doing it, but with dirty work boots as well. Now, for me, my current method of dealing with this is not to action anything simply look at the person in the corner of my eye dream of ways to remove him
Starting point is 00:47:49 from the train by tossing him out of the train by his feet and going about my day uh sadly this isn't working for me what is the best way to deal with this p.s the same bloke ate a bag of nuts and left a lovely pile of shells next to him when he got off. Much love for the pod, the lion. Well, firstly, I don't think a lion would have probably told him to take his feet off the chair. I don't know, I did think to myself, I can't imagine a lion quietly being disgruntled about some people.
Starting point is 00:48:16 I mean, you should have probably called yourself the timid lion, or the cub. Look, that is despicable behaviour, but this sounds, if i'm honest like just like an exceedingly despicable human being who is uh really sort of taking and using the train as his own slot pit right but i've noticed it happen you know i'm not you know my eyes are open i do see people do it uh if i'm honest with you like it annoys me especially
Starting point is 00:48:46 if the train's quite packed and you see some oaf like figure with his feet up uh but then there's also a flip side of it i think sometimes you say something or you could remark about something and it could become quite an aggressive situation because people who do that kind of thing don't often realize they don't like to be held accountable for their their actions uh and i think you could sort of like end up walking into quite a volatile situation sometimes i think people actually just in the very nature of doing that are looking for an argument or looking to sort of be the aggressor in a situation or let you be the aggressor and then they become more worthy. So, you know, tread lightly there, Lion.
Starting point is 00:49:29 You seem like a sweet soul and I think it's, you know, there's a decency within you and I wouldn't want to see you bite off more than you could chew within the barren wastelands that is public transport. So just maybe tuck and get a punch bag or bag or you know get some running shoes and when you get off the train just go for a bit of a run and let that aggression go out that way because don't let it bottle up inside my friend no you're absolutely right the thing is i think you need to find a way to not give a shit about this yeah it just doesn't it just doesn't look i understand why you're annoyed about it's
Starting point is 00:50:05 anti-social and it's not the right thing to do um and people shouldn't do it but it isn't worth your time or energy you know so maybe like making jealous that's always another way i think we've done it how do you mean well i don't know like reading a book or like, sort of laughing and joking with other passengers and make them feel like, sort of like, because they've got their feet up, they're not welcoming to your conversation. Yeah, you can do that. It feels like a really difficult way of not achieving a solution.
Starting point is 00:50:34 But I would just let it go. What can you do? These people want to do that. Like Tom said, if you get involved, you're going to get some shit back. You don't want to go and be a telltale. No, don't do that. Because it want to go and be a telltale. No, don't do that. It's not even about being a telltale, it's about
Starting point is 00:50:49 you've given the train staff something to do. Like, that's a norm. They've already got enough shit going on. I think what I want to say is shout out to the train staff for keeping this country moving. Mate, I really feel sorry for the train staff.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Mate, I'm so glad that you're saying this. Because where I really feel sorry for the train staff in this. Mate, same. I'm so glad that you're saying this. Because where I am in Crawley, the service, I mean, I've not got a train in a while. Not because of that guy. I'm just talking about the fact that there was a pandemic and blah, blah, blah. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:51:20 when you do get a train, the service is shit, right? And it's through no fault of the staff. Oh, mate. And then they've got to be the front line dealing with, like, agitated and aggravated people. There's been times when I've got off the train at East Croydon to change,
Starting point is 00:51:36 and all you see is just people screaming at staff members at the station. It is unbelievable. So can I just take this opportunity on behalf of the Wolf and Owl and say, can you show staff members at train stations just a little bit of love? I know you're stressed out.
Starting point is 00:51:55 I'm the third of this because I know this is what Romesh is probably trying to get at. I think is going up to a train, somebody who works on the trains, saying like, you know, hi, you know hi you know from the Wolf and Owl animal pack
Starting point is 00:52:07 I want to say you're doing an amazing job we absolutely think you're incredible this country wouldn't move without you here's a packet of hardboard sweets
Starting point is 00:52:14 or here's some after eights or like similar or like I don't know like a book or something yeah if you want to do that yeah you feel free to do that if your three go-to items
Starting point is 00:52:26 are some hardball sweets after eights in a book they're free to choose any one of those to give to a member of staff on the platform or indeed on the train yeah and then like obviously with social distancing like sort of like nod to them or sort of like give them a sort of fake sort of pat on the back then just go on your train and go home i guess or to work whichever yeah yeah wherever you're going but seriously show a bit of love man because it's not easy the peanut shells thing is just that's i mean that's something else that that guy sorry oh the peanut shit look this guy that he's a piece of this guy this guy's a fucking prick i mean that that is that's what we need to get that out of the way the guy's a fucking arsehole yeah he's an, we need to get that out of the way. The guy's a fucking arsehole. Yeah, he's an absolute scuzzbucket.
Starting point is 00:53:06 And I don't say that lightly. Yeah. Yeah, you're a done deal, mate. Yeah. Don't do that. Don't do that. Somebody's got to clean up Actually, you know what?
Starting point is 00:53:12 Look, look, look. Let me show a bit of empathy. Yo, you're better than that, friend. You're better than that. That is probably actually the more adult response. One more quick one before we sign off. Yeah, yeah the panda uh hi wolf valence one loving
Starting point is 00:53:28 the pod i'm a day one follower and love the weekly banter youtube provider just wanted to ask a quickie tom last year an avid married at site watcher married at first site watcher as i remember you tried to recruit rom into following also well he not tried he succeeded i watched all of those episodes this year as the UK version was advertised, I decided to give it a go following your recommendation. And I have to say that I am addicted. Thanks for that.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Tom, have you been watching? And what are your pearls of wisdom on the latest series? I'd love to hear both of your thoughts. It doesn't sound like you'd love to hear both of your thoughts. You've just directed the question at Tom, Panda. Keep doing you to the max.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Tom? Have you watched it? Have you watched it as well? So I've watched the first two episodes. I've got to watch the latest one today, as in I'm watching Mondays on a Tuesday. But yeah, you know what? I'm enjoying it.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Sorry, Wolf. Let me just stop you a second. sounds like you've got a little bit of reservation in your voice it's like you may have fallen out of love with married at first sight look no the australian one i was i loved it was incredible and uh i thought it was perfectly cast and i find the trouble is right with with this this one, this year, like I thought that Australians series, what was amazing with it was that there was genuinely, I think there was people who were on there and they, their actual relationships were sort of real.
Starting point is 00:54:55 And I think like, you know, shout out Jules and Cam. And then there was obviously the arguments and there was, you know, none of us are nice enough to think that these people weren't trying to be famous. I mean,
Starting point is 00:55:04 on this one, there's an element that everyone on it seems like they're just coming on just to be on a reality TV show and there's just no... I've enjoyed it, don't get me wrong, and I've been told that the latest episode is an absolute banger.
Starting point is 00:55:20 I don't have the same emotional attachment as I did to the Australian one is what I'm trying to get at. Well, yeah, I think you were slightly more naive when you were watching the Australian one, because you genuinely thought that this was real shit, didn't you? And also, my wife knows someone who's in this series.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. So she's got a friend who's sort of in it. So has that taken a magical effect? Yeah, kind of, yeah, because I sort of, yeah, you realise that, I think,
Starting point is 00:55:48 yeah, I think, no, he's the world, I think the Australian one, none of the people, you didn't know any of the people, there's at least three people
Starting point is 00:55:54 on this I've seen on other reality shows. Yeah, but that's the problem with this thing, is it, not the problem, but like,
Starting point is 00:56:01 you have to sort of accept it for that because it's such an extreme thing to ask people to do so you are just gonna yeah yeah yeah it's like i was doing um bake off extra slice and i asked what i'm not gonna name the show again mate i'm talking to a fucking regular on it i did it once how many times you've been on it four times yeah four times i love it it's one of my favorite shows sure you know why i love that show you get to hang out with joe brand joe brand's an absolute legend i just want to take i just want to take this opportunity to say i know that she's considered a legend in comedy
Starting point is 00:56:37 i still think she's underrated not enough so joe joe brand is one of the best to ever do it no i i would no i'm gonna go for i think genuinely i mean this joe brand is one of the best to ever do it. No, I'm going to go for it. I think genuinely I mean this. Joe Brand is one of the best people to work in this industry. She is unbelievable. When I started out in this industry, and not to get too deep, and I've had an emotional week, but Joe Brand was one of the few people who really gave me the time of day,
Starting point is 00:57:02 like gave me tips. So I want to shout out joe because she and that's yeah that's that's why that show is so amazing joe and tom incredible people yeah of course shout out tommy as well um what the fuck was that what we oh sorry yeah i was doing bake off extra slice so i sort of interrupted by your kind of heckle and one of the people i spoke to one of the guys ago how did you get the same how come you're so into baking or what made you want to do bake off and he said oh it's because i couldn't get onto masterchef oh wow and then i was like oh bake off is so much better than masterchef anyway well you know these are all uh these are all opinions but but but it might not
Starting point is 00:57:37 have been because the show was but it might be that he's a genuine like general all-round cook yeah yeah wanted to do some cooking on a show. And also, like, well, we're probably getting ourselves into hot water here, but when you watch The Apprentice, there's no way all those people are trying to get into fucking business, is there?
Starting point is 00:57:52 No, but actually, I will shout out one of them who has become a friend of mine. That's Tom Skinner, who does mattresses and beds. He's actually made a real go of it himself. So anyone, you know, have a look at his company.
Starting point is 00:58:04 He's a really decent guy. Yeah, okay, great, fine. And I hope you're enjoying your mattress, Tom. Okay. So in answer to your question, we are watching it. Have you got any...
Starting point is 00:58:15 So I'm going to try and get into it. Maybe we can talk about it a bit further down the line. But the problem is, is when we were watching the Australian one, Tom and I sort of got nervous that...
Starting point is 00:58:24 We didn't get nervous. Nervous is a massive exaggeration. It implies a level of care that we put into this podcast that absolutely isn't there. But we were slightly worried that we were going to talk about it in too much depth and the people that weren't watching it were going to kind of dip out.
Starting point is 00:58:35 So that's why we haven't chatted about it as much. And then we said we were going to do a special and all of the things that we promised, we never bothered doing that. So actually, I feel I have no qualms in saying we're going to do a Married at First Sight UK special at some point. Maybe we'll get one of the contestants on. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Actually, I do get a lot of messages asking, are we going to have guests? It's not something we're planning on having. No, it isn't. It would just mean that there'd be more preparation for the three of us. And at the moment, we're scarcely able to get... on having. No, it isn't. It would just mean that there'd be more preparation for the three of us. You know, and at the moment, actually, we're absolutely
Starting point is 00:59:09 snowed under with the 30 seconds of prep we do for this one. Well, at least it does, in all fairness. Yeah, yeah. Okay, Tomo, can
Starting point is 00:59:22 you please do us the honour of taking us out of this yeah this is going to be a different one this week because I have had a week of up and down I want to shout out Ron for being an amazing friend but so I want to shout out the listeners
Starting point is 00:59:38 of this sweet sweet podcast I've been away filming this week and one morning I was going for a uh a general jog down by the seafront of liverpool and a um a young lady stopped me and uh she said thanks for for the podcast and how much she's loved it and and it's got her and her i've got off for a very tough time uh yeah and i won't go into details, but I found that really,
Starting point is 01:00:06 really sweet. And I was on the phone to Catherine, my wife at the time, and she shouted out, hello to Catherine. And I just wanted to say that for, you know, and we get a lot of messages and,
Starting point is 01:00:16 you know, get a lot of people saying how much they enjoy this podcast. And, and, and, you know, there's a certain level of us getting you through, through stuff. But, you know, as someone that this week, and I have struggled's a certain level of us getting you through through stuff but
Starting point is 01:00:25 you know it's someone like this week and i have struggled it's it's that that really meant a lot to me and it does mean a lot to both of us when you reach out so there's no great uh summing up this week's show but to say thank you cheers for listening and uh thank you to that woman because that make what a tough day a little bit easier so shout out you yo keep doing it wow real real one you didn't mean you didn't even for a second consider making that woman a corn on the cob or something and you're a harvester or whatever no no i didn't want to do that in just this oh she was a very sweet woman.
Starting point is 01:01:05 It really meant a lot. Okay, well, look, lovely. Well, that's a lovely, lovely thing. Actually, you got in touch with me about that. It was really nice, man. It was really nice.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Yeah. So, yeah, listen. Quite a melancholy end to what's been a rumptious episode. Yeah, it's been very rumptious. People, listeners, yo, thank you for listening.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Maybe JTT James Torrance play us out with maybe maybe something uplifting one yeah let's have something on lifting what we thinking maybe one of your rappers like one someone who's made a
Starting point is 01:01:37 comeback and actually done quite well do you know what I think a quite nice uplifting song how about we have touch the Sky by Kanye West just to take us out, okay? Yo, everyone out there, keep doing you. Keep doing you.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Take it to the max. We love you. And you know what? Next time I see you, I'm bringing my beard brush because I'm brushing that sweet, sweet beard. Okay, bye-bye. Bye, people. okay bye bye bye people if you have a problem opinion
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