Wolf and Owl - Episode 46
Episode Date: October 20, 2021We’re talking… fashion Russian-roulette, not going on runs, bonding over mountains, playing poker with zoo animals, computer game tuition and some unfortunate news about Tom’s dog. Plus, some em...ail questions answered on TV shows our families bonded over, using rap to teach maths, and a problem with loud eating. For any feedback, questions or comments please email us at wolfowlpod@gmail.com - we’d love to hear from you. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Yo, Ron brings us sexy every week, yo.
We're both grey t-shirted today.
Yeah, we are both.
Well, this is blue, actually.
Is it?
It looks kind of grey on this vibe.
Well, it's a baby blue.
It is a baby blue, actually, I believe, yeah.
Where does your mindset lie, right? on this vibe well it's a baby blue it is a baby blue actually i believe yeah uh where where do you
where does your mindset lie right and you'll probably i don't feel like me you bang on a
t-shirt like that sick t-shirt by the way good color on you looks well pings it pings your
dirty velvet pings your face out nice makes you really encapsulates your beard um but as soon as
like there's any kind of like heat or sweat residue then we've got a problem
yeah i had a thing where i was wearing a jacket the other day uh over a t-shirt and um i thought
it's quite warm and then i went to lift the jacket up and then i saw the situation underneath
and sort of where there was some underlining of the tits uh there was big kebab wrapper situation
under the arms and so i just had to keep i just basically continue wearing the jacket in
discomfort i basically basically decided to up my levels of discomfort to lower other people's
levels of discomfort you know because it's uncomfortable when someone in the table is sitting covered
in sweat yeah and people just sort of look because you look like you smell and
then people think people start to imagine what that smell would be like
and then they start to believe they are smelling that smell you know it's
horrible it's horrible or you've got one person sitting at a table who genuinely
hasn't washed and does smell who's up one of those cool sort of hoxton vibey guys do you know what i mean he doesn't wash all the time he stinks then
he sees you or me yeah with the sweat on and then he's like oh they're gonna take the fucking bullet
fit i mate right i had exactly the same i'm sitting here in a gray t-shirt just waiting for the
fucking sweat to come around my neck i'm sweating after a very hot shower right i had that same
thing as you cast in the other day i was
wearing a lovely lovely little bit of kit yeah but underneath i hadn't thought about the t-shirt vibe
always go white t-shirt black t-shirt underneath a big shirt absolutely i've gone gray i could
feel the sweat on my back when i put my hand up the back i could feel a big sweat patch
i'll tell you what a gray or pale blue t-shirt is the russian roulette of fashion absolutely if you get it right it's a
beautiful thing i mean look at that now that that that shirt genuinely i think i i'd struggle to
think of a time i fancied you more than now right looking at you serious like because it every little
bit you're it pings out your fucking eyes are nice your glasses vibe with it it's a nice look bro
you wear that one day me and you going out
we're having some food you have something particularly spicy or the sun starts shining
no one knows where we are with the ozone layer now no you don't know what you don't know what
the temperature variation is going to be you know one minute you're feeling a bit nippy actually the
t-shirt issue is your nipples are sticking through it and the next thing you start to sweat my nipples
man i don't nipple wise i'm like Jada Franston from Friends
all the time
me too
that is my vibe
me too
it's so embarrassing
yeah
I was at school as well
I constantly had a nipple erection
yeah
I had an embarrassing situation
where
when we were filming
in South Africa
for Rob and Romesh Versus
we put on the England cricket tops
to do this like
challenge thing
yeah
and then it was such a
nipply situation
oh you know sometimes when you go oh god i'm a bit worried about this and somebody from production
will go oh no don't worry it looks fine i i went look at my nipples and the summer production went
oh oh yeah like that so they actually they actually thought it was a situation as well
and then i'm not this is no exaggeration they, why don't you put a cricket jumper on?
I put on a cricket jumper on,
you could still see my nipples through the jumper.
Oh, fucking hell.
I had two layers on.
You could still see my nipples poking through.
And actually, at that point, I started to think,
I need to try and monetize this,
because I might be like a modern miracle.
Do you know what I mean?
I might be like one of the wonders of the world.
It doesn't matter how many layers you put on i've got regular size i would say i would describe
them as regular size nipples i think i've got like sort of quite pea nipples what do you mean
little peas well you know the um what's the bit around the nipples areola yeah yeah uh it sounds
a bit like that um sp Spanish mayonnaise with garlic but um
aioli
yeah
you've got the old
aioli nipples
they sort of secrete
yeah they secrete
this kind of white pus
that's quite nice
with potato
or it's even worse
if you go into a restaurant
and ask for some aioli
with a little wink
yeah
do you want to have
a little bit of my squid
drink
a little aioli please
massive sweating chef comes to throw you out um sweat brothers Do you want to have my squid rings? A little aglione, please.
Massive sweating chef comes to throw you out.
Sweat Brothers.
Mine do it all the time.
Mine did it at school,
and people used to think there was a correlation between... Is it correlation?
I don't know what you're about to say.
You've stopped mid-sentence.
I don't know if...
Yeah, because this is essential.
This word gets right.
Correlation between your nipples being erect
and your dick being erect.
Correlation is the right word, sorry, yeah.
It's absolutely the right word.
So people at school used to think
if you had nipple erection,
yours had an erection.
Yeah.
And the saddest thing was
is the nipples are more noticeable.
Yeah.
Which is genuinely quite the truth
when it comes to my body.
Yeah, I don't like...
Oh, God, you've got me paranoid about nipples now.
I've had a bad morning, mate.
Mate, I've had a shit-dog weekend,
so you hit me up with your morning.
It's not bad. It's not bad.
I just feel a bit...
I'm trying to exercise.
This morning I got up and...
I wanted to do...
Last week, I ran for an hour all right it's big big
big achievement for me right is i managed to run without stopping for an hour you ran for an hour
without stopping one go yeah oh that's sick that's amazing yeah i could not fucking do that in a
million years so well you can salute you i reckon in a million years i could if i ran like 10 minutes
every day i'd sue you hopefully you'd actually just gradually build it up yeah um so i did that
probably on a marathon but an hour is amazing so this morning i thought i'm going to do that
so we got up this morning i thought i'm going to do that run again and then we're having a skip
delivered because we're moving house god i'm actually fucking bored i'm actually i'm so early on in
this story and i'm already bored but anyway so um we're getting a skip delivered so i had to move
my car so i moved my car dropped off with my brothers ended up staying there having a little
bit of a chat with him then i came home and i thought do you know what i'm gonna i'm not i've
not got time for a run now because i've got to do podcasts with tom i'm gonna do peloton
and then i ended up sort of dicking around on the PlayStation with the kids.
Anyway, long story short, I started the morning off thinking I was going to do an hours run.
I moved down to shortening the run, moved down to maybe doing Peloton.
I ended up just having a large breakfast.
So that is, it's just so upsetting to me as i was eating as i was eating my porridge to
think this should have been a run this should have been me losing calories and i'm actually
taking calories on board i mean you know the thing to do though what don't beat yourself up
focus on the fact last week you did this incredible hour run right you know you've got an hour run in
you and you know what tomorrow you're going to wake You know you've got an hour run, haven't you? And you know what, tomorrow,
you're going to wake up and you're going to feel more fired up
to do that hour run.
You'll probably do an hour and ten minutes
if I know you,
because you're an absolute G.
Yeah.
You know with Robert Ranganathan,
I nearly said Rob Nesh,
Robert Ranganathan, right?
Yeah.
Do me a favour,
stop dropping in the name
of the person you'd rather be doing
the podcast with, right?
Right.
If a mountain stands in front of him,
he fucking shits on that top of that mountain
when he's climbed it
in a record time.
You can do it,
right?
I believe in you.
Yeah.
You love the mountain thing,
don't you?
It's a big thing for you,
mountains.
I like mountains,
man.
Have you climbed a mountain before?
No,
no.
That's no doubt,
I had a little trot up,
but the thing for me
that's great about mountains
is I don't know
how fucking amazing they are
for our culture.
For our culture?
For the world.
Right, there's one thing the whole world agrees on, right?
Mountains are massive.
It doesn't matter who you vote for,
what sort of side of the, you know,
like fucking what religion you are.
There's one thing that everyone fucking gets together and goes,
oh, fucking mountains are massive, mate.
Oh, do you know what?
By the way, I'd love to be invited to one of those parties.
No, I'm just saying that.
Did you go round Tom's for dinner the other night?
No, what happened?
Oh, we all got together and having a bit of a chat,
but Tom did his usual thing of asking everyone
to sort of confirm that they thought the mountains were massive.
No, but, right.
He does it every time we go round.
Look, you're being a bit scabby about this, all right?
Right?
The truth of the matter is, right,
what you have to get in your head, yeah,
is you could go anywhere in the world,
and if you talk about mountains,
you will be able to bond with other human beings.
If you cipher off and start talking about religion
or fucking, you know, any other sort of really clever subjects,
yeah, that comes with friendship.
Of course it does, Ramesh, right?
But you start a conversation with going,
everyone has their mountains,
and I hope that you can climb yours.
I'll tell you what, mate, you've got a friend for life.
I don't think you've got a friend for life.
I think you've got quite a sort of pithy ending to a conversation
that I would argue would lead to that person probably not getting
in touch with you again.
I don't know if that means you've got a friend for life.
I just try to think about
the number of times you've said that to someone and walked off.
Oh, one of them got back in touch with me.
Hello, mate.
I don't know if you remember me,
but I'm the one that said that thing about the mountain
and I hope you managed to climb it.
It's weird.
We're on the mountain, I hope you managed to climb it it's weird Barbara on the mountain guys on the phone every holiday
so listen Tom
you've actually helped me there bro
you have helped me
you've improved my mood
so let me try and do the same for you
talk to me about your weekend
yeah so I actually had a
bit of a shit one brother
my um dog got attacked by another dog god uh which is pretty fucking savage what happened
katherine was taking him for a walk um and uh another dog just came sprinting out and just
literally started like sat like spitting a hole out of him inside are you serious his neck yeah
yeah man and also fucking
oh Catherine's legs
are just smashed up
where the dog's just
getting at her as well
what
like the dog bit
did the dog bite
no no
just madly bruised
where it's
like sort of going in on her
and she's sort of like
tussling with it
it's horrific man
and do you know
this is
where did this
where is this dog from
what happened
I'm not allowed legally
to say
because it's a
it's a police case now
so I can't say where it happened.
But you're not willing to name
everyone involved for the podcast?
No,
you know,
this is genuinely the truth,
but Catherine turned around
and she said,
the main thing is
do not name this person
when you're doing the podcast
with Romesh.
Don't name them.
And I was going to,
so it was good that she said that.
Yeah.
Yeah,
it happened, it happened, no, it that um yeah uh yeah it happened it happened
on no it happened on friday so it's pretty um oh bro i'm sorry i'm pretty far back and um
yeah i mean it's just a weird one because dogs you know they're sort of like your family and
it's horrible as well because he's like terrified of the vets it was fucking and that but the the
thing that just fucking did me out of everything is the guy turned around to Catherine
and his argument for everything was
oh he's never done this before
I was like
he's clearly done it now
you can't use that as an excuse
at some point
anyone who did anything bad
has never done that before
yeah you can't get away with doing something horrific
because you're a first timer
no
I don't think
and also
at never one point has gone
no I'm going to have my medicine here this is out of order and you know he's heard about 30 excuses you're a first timer. No. I don't think. And also, at never one point has gone,
no, I'm going to drink,
have my medicine here.
This is out of order.
And, you know,
he's heard about 30 excuses since it's happened.
But it's,
yeah,
you know,
the sad thing is,
and actually I will shout out
for everyone
because I don't usually share
anything like about
like this online.
It's not really sort of my vibe.
I try to keep it positive.
But I just think it's something
that I didn't realize quite how many people,
dog owners, this has happened to.
And then the more people you spoke to after,
the more people who seem to have had this vibe happen to them,
this thing happen to them.
And then, you know, so firstly, I'd like to thank everyone who got in touch
and sort of nice messages and whatever.
But also it's just really sad to see how many times it happens
and how many times sort of the dog,
and I don't even blame the dog, I blame the owner in this situation.
It's a sort of, yeah, it's a pretty shit thing, man.
It's been a tough old week.
How is our boy?
Do you know what?
He's, yeah, he's squeaking a lot.
I mean, the trouble is he's probably forgot because dogs don't have a massively long-term memory, so he's probably...'s squeaking a lot I mean the trouble is he's probably forgot
because dogs don't have
a massively long term memory
so he's probably
how long is a dog's memory
I think it's
it's longer than a camel's
but shorter than an elephant's
okay
that's two other pieces
of information
I don't know
well camels have
the shortest memory
right
or they're the longest
I think goldfish
have the shortest memory
I'm going to look this up now
elephants have the most
elephants have incredible memories
I think that's a myth isn't it you don't want a fucking elephant over it memory. I'm going to look this up now. Elephants have incredible memories.
I think that's a myth, isn't it?
You don't want to fuck an elephant over it.
If you're going to fuck an elephant or a camel over it, who are you going to fuck over?
Well, you're talking about a size thing now.
I don't think, I'm not making a decision.
I'm not making a decision about which animal I fuck.
First of all, I wouldn't fuck over an animal, ideally.
Secondly, I'm not making a decision about which animal i cover based on how
long they're going to remember this for right i'm just saying that right just picture this right you
go to the zoo right yeah you end up in the card game right you know it's good listen dolphins have
the longest memories in the animal kingdom wow there you go right uh okay go go anyway carry
on with your example all right you go to you're playing cards
in the zoo right there's a camel an elephant or an adult in there right knowing that all three of
those has long-term memories right yeah are those the only three animals they've got oh no there's
other animals playing but you're not too worried about them because they're not going to remember
you right right and knowing that you know you know alex or Charlie goes, I can't wait to come back to the zoo next month, Dad.
You're like...
Listen, let me tell you something.
I don't mind you doing a little dick voice
when you're impersonating me.
I draw the lie when it comes to my children.
I know, right?
That's a kid's voice,
like the Famous Five.
Yeah, I don't want people thinking
my kids are from the Famous Five.
Oh, Daddy, please take us to the zoo again.
I do love wildlife.
Oh, what a fascinating menagerie of creatures they've got here, Daddy.
Thank you so much for this wonderful opportunity
to see what the world has to offer in terms of this different wildlife and form.
That's okay, my Alex.
Right, so you're in a game of poker, right?
High-end poker.
At the zoo?
Yeah. You're cheating a game of poker, right? High-end poker. At the zoo? Yeah.
You're cheating the game of poker with these other animals.
With the animals?
Yeah.
Who would be the one that you'd most want to cheat,
thinking, right, I fucked it over, but then it's got to...
So, hold on, let me get this straight.
So, it's the dolphins in a tank next to the table.
Well, yeah, he's, like, leaning out of the table,
because they can do that.
He's leaning out of the tank.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he's holding... Just so I can get a visual on this, how's he holding the cards? Well, he's got his cards on, like, he's like leaning out of the table because they can do that. He's leaning out of the tank. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's holding...
Just so I can get a visual on this, how's he holding the cards?
Well, he's got his cards on like a little plaque, plaque sort of thing.
Actually, no, let's just say Charlie's got his cards for him
because Charlie's helping him out.
So Charlie's helping the dolphin out, okay.
Yeah, so Charlie's on the side.
Elephant stood up or sat down?
Well, he sat down for the cards.
And also he doesn't want to be aggressive because he's got a kind heart.
But he's...
Obviously, you've seen Dumbo. He can do all this with it at the end of his uh nostril thing his trunk trunk
yes holy shit so he's got his trunk and he's got his cards in his trunk yeah right right right uh
and then the camel let's just say um theo's helping out the camel. Okay, fine. Daddy, thank you so much for letting me assist this camel.
You're sitting next,
and you've got Alex who's sort of helping you out a bit.
Okay, fine.
Because he's actually weirdly a really good car player.
Yeah.
Out of all of the kids.
So you've picked, yeah.
So out of all of the other animals, right?
Yeah.
Okay, kids aside, right,
who would you most likely fuck over?
Dolphin. You'd fuck, don't, well, I'd agree with that, actually. It's you most likely fuck over? Dolphin.
You'd fuck the Dolphin?
Well, I'd agree with that, actually.
It's the most sensible thing you've ever said.
Because the Dolphin can't get out of the tank.
As long as you don't ever go to the Dolphin's tank, he can never get there, right?
Yeah, correct.
That's my thinking.
Yeah, but then you've got two others, right?
So out of those two.
The Dolphin's only entered the game because you wanted him to play.
I don't even want him involved.
Don't get angry with me because your example is falling apart.
So the Dolphin's out of the game, right?
Okay.
So Charlie's now just lurking about,
just chatting with some monkeys
and some hippo or whatever,
and the Dolphin.
They're all just off chatting.
But still in view.
I wouldn't leave him unsupervised.
Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, no, of course, yeah.
Yeah, but he's safer than the Dolphin.
The Dolphin's got a kind heart.'s never yeah i've just fucked the dolphin over
that's true yeah okay right so now you've got you know what i don't want to see is
charlie being flipped up on this dolphin snout as a some sort of threat
but now you've got the elephant and the camel right yeah you get down you've but you're both all in you've put your new house on the line the elephants put like it's um like forest on the line
the camels put like all of its stuff on the line right
just just when you're thinking of examples think do i have an example for every one of these things
and if you don't don't start it would be my tip to you
all right so now it comes all in right you've got a chick like theo gives you a little nudge right
charlie's on your team isn't it no fear isn't it charlie's being battered to death by a dolphin
and he says he shows you an ace right you put the ace up your sleeve to cheat right
okay who would you most likely fuck over at the
camel and the elephant is a good question uh the camel wait that's exactly the answer i wanted
why what does that prove well no it just proves that you're well no i guess like what's the point
you can't even remember what point you're trying to make no it no the point of it is like yes they've
both got good memories but you know that the camel's weaker than the elephant.
So you've picked on a weaker one, really.
Yeah, I have done, yeah.
So, yeah, I actually do.
I have much like...
Do you know what you're trying to get across?
Like probably one of the, like a goldfish in a way,
I've forgotten what the moral of the story is
because I've got to say
in the story itself.
My point of it is...
So all of that,
that's one of the biggest
ways to tell
what we've had on this podcast.
My point of it...
You've taken us into
detailed stories before.
These animals don't always...
This is going to be
the first time
you take a detailed story
and then midway forgotten
what the fucking point was.
I think I've got it now.
Animals don't always remember, right?
But they always care, right?
So my dog, he probably won't remember some of these,
like the attack itself, until he's in that situation again.
And then he might have some sort of PTSD.
So Theo, our eldest, when he was a baby,
we took him to a friend's house in a car seat.
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Yeah. And a dog
came over and like sort of
sort of barked at him in the
car seat so aggressively and pushed
him forward that he sort of fell off the chair that like this car seat fell off the yeah it was
pretty full on what kind of dog was it it's only little wasn't massive it wasn't a big dog right so
so we we um obviously freaked out and obviously you freak out more when it's your first as well
so like i mean listen i don't think a dog a dog shoving your kid off a chair is isn't you know
you're not overreacting i don't think no no anyway we we picked up the car seat and he was totally
fine the dog hadn't attacked the dog hadn't really done anything wrong it was just over excited right
but we freaked out a bit but but also had to mediate that freaking out with the fact that
we're at these people's house we don't know them well enough to go what the fuck man so we just sort of like oh no no no it's fine it's fine anyway it took theo years to not be nervous around dogs man like you know
you sort of think he was a little baby then right so you just sort of think how much of the how much
a baby sort of remembering and and storing from all this like for for years afterwards it took
such a long time
for him to be comfortable
around dogs again, man.
It was mad.
What's he like now with them?
He loves them.
He loves them.
In fact, we have one on the way
very soon.
When have you got it coming?
In about a month.
What are you getting?
I'm slightly nervous
because the way you settled in
as you asked that question
was like you're about to savage me
for whatever I say to you now.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
This is a safe space, all right? One thing I'll never ever do is i'll never take a look at your dog okay
we're getting a miniature golden doodle what's a golden doodle it's a cross between a golden
retriever and a poodle i bet that's a cool looking dog looks like a kind of looks like a teddy bear
from the photos is it so hold up when you say miniature how big does it get well it varies so sort of bigger than a poodle smaller than a golden retriever
golden retrievers man they're a lovely dog you're a big fan of them they've just got good hearts man
true hearts i'll tell you what you've got with a poodle you've actually you i tell you because
the poodles are poodle poodle poodles are pretty prissy little. But they're very intelligent poodles.
So I've been told.
You've basically got a dog that's just full of love
and also full of intelligence.
It's almost like me and you, actually, if there was a Tomish.
I'd be the guard retriever and you'd be the poodle.
So you think I'm prissy is what you're saying?
Well, and intelligent.
Yeah, no, sure.
You know what?
You know what?
Fair play to you
tom i've willfully taken that the wrong way and that's bad of me that's bad of me you if me and
you were to like sort of i don't know how would we do it like you know procreate a little version
of us that would run around the thomas that would be if we tried to create some sort of like
just single podcast a child if there's a way in the future that we could combine
your and my genetics to create something
yeah I think I actually think
whatever we create would be quite annoying
yeah yeah because it would have all
it'd just be like
oh you don't know what you're talking about
hmm
it's constantly
constantly correcting itself
that's not the word
you're looking for
like when Stewie
has that
in Family Guy
when Stewie
has this bit
yeah but yeah man
it's
but you know
with dogs
kids I guess
it's all the same vibe brother
it's that sort of
protective nature
so your dog
got attacked on Friday yeah and then was the rest of the weekend sort of dealing
with the aftermath of that or did you know what it was more awful things happen no it's just a bit
more uh it was just a bit of tlc brother just just looking after uh my my wife and the dog
making sure they were all right before how was how was cat she was pretty freaked out with the
whole thing actually she was pretty freaked out by the whole thing, actually.
She was pretty freaked out.
She was pretty scared.
Like, I think it's thrown her, actually, quite a lot, sort of.
I think, yeah, obviously, I've had him for, like, seven, eight years now.
So the thought of, like, that happening is your worst fear of a dog, you know?
So, yeah, I think she's probably more anxious about going out with him
because there was nothing she could do to stop the whole thing so it was yeah it's pretty um
yeah i mean i went home i brought everyone a curry because uh i thought that was well
obviously not the dog he had some poppadoms um does his dog eat poppadoms yeah he loves poppadoms
with chutney or without without chutney yeah they can't have onions and stuff they got
when you when you get a dog really look into it. They can't have onions and stuff. When you get a dog,
really look into it, mate.
They can't have chocolate.
I don't, you know,
I don't want to see you, like,
sitting around with chocolate all over you,
half a dairy milk all over your fingers.
Well, or like the vegan.
I suppose, actually,
it's pretty good, actually,
because you being a vegan,
it's quite good for you.
I'm not going to feed the dog vegan.
No, I just, no,
I just thought the dog licking...
What a fucking miserable dog that would be.
No, just the dog licking chocolate that would be no but just a dog
licking chocolate off your fingers yeah i know that dogs can't eat chocolate and onions like
there's loads of stuff they can't eat so just go through that yeah i'm going to i don't know what
you think i don't know how you feel i'm going to approach this dog ownership thing i'm going to do
a bit of research mate well also make the whole family aware that you're all doing it.
So do it as a fun thing in the evenings.
Yeah, all right, thank you.
Like a little quiz.
Yeah, yeah, we'll do, yeah.
I could write the quiz if you wanted.
I'd love you to, yeah?
You up for that?
I'll do like 10 questions.
Yeah.
You made our youngest so happy yesterday
because Tom and I,
you and I were doing little voicemail exchanges.
And then you said, Charlie, you rock.
Oh, man.
And he was so delighted, man.
He was so delighted.
He's a great kid.
He's a great kid.
It's one of my happiest thoughts
if I ever get down
as you just playing
on the PlayStation
before they all go to school.
Yeah.
Do you know,
Theo's got really
shit-hot FIFA, man.
Really?
I can't beat him anymore.
I cannot.
Tell him just to get ready
because when I come over,
I'm pretty amazing at FIFA.
Dude, he's been playing online.
He's yet to be beaten.
What?
I'm serious.
You need to...
Tell him to fuck off school then, mate.
He just can't play full-time FIFA.
Mate, people are earning serious money out of that now.
Mate, that would be incredible.
Yeah, I'd love that.
Just to sack off his education
and for him to play FIFA full-time.
Yes, please.
Yeah, but the only other trouble is I knew this kid, right? Well, not the kid. I knew love that. Just to sack off his education and for him to play FIFA full-time. Yes, please. Yeah. But the only other trouble is
I knew this kid, right?
Well, not the kid.
I knew this guy.
It'd be weird if I had a friend
who was a kid who was going to football
at FIFA.
I knew this guy
who was really, really good
at, like, FIFA 20, right?
Incredible at it.
Sick at it.
Like, you know,
probably sort of like, you know,
your boy's standards, right?
FIFA 21 comes out, he's nowhere near as good.
But he'd given up his job.
He fucking was vibing on that FIFA.
What are you talking about?
They barely changed the game between years.
He reckons that he doesn't know what it is.
Maybe something in his head just went.
He just couldn't get it.
Is this a true story?
Yeah, man.
This sounds so made up.
It's a true story.
It's like he was genuinely... So in 2020, this guy gave up his job because he's so good at FIFA 20? Yeah, man. This sounds so made up. It's a true story. It's like he was genuinely...
So in 2020, this guy gave up his job
because he's so good at FIFA 20.
Yeah, yeah.
And they brought out FIFA 21.
And he just...
Yeah, he was just...
Come on.
Come on.
Mate, he was saying to...
Honestly, like, you know,
I want to tell you the truth of the situation, right?
All right.
When lockdown was going on, right,
I got slightly obsessed with FIFA Ultimate Team.
Okay. I was I was like playing it
quite a lot
how much money did you spend
not as much as
other people we know
who I went through
sure
yeah
but you've spent a bit of money
I spent a bit to
to have a decent team right
right
but this is the thing
I then get to a point
where I'm like
oh man this is fucking
so I reach out to a couple of
FIFA professionals
right
or people who play FIFA
to say what
to say look can you can you help me here oh my god so I had a couple of FIFA professionals, right? Or people who play FIFA. To say what?
To say,
look,
can you,
can you help me here?
So I had a couple of online lessons.
This is so tragic.
Oh my God.
No,
you didn't.
No,
you didn't.
Yeah,
yeah, yeah.
It was,
and it was this guy,
right?
For a network of people,
who,
it's a bit like,
don't fuck with cats kind of vibe,
you know,
it's a network of people on this.
Yeah.
Anyway,
it was one of the people I met from there,
another FIFA on, as they called it.
He called himself, right?
What's he called himself?
FIFA on.
Okay.
Who basically turns to me and tells me this almost woeful, sad tale.
And from there, I'm like, fucking hell, man.
I just don't know what to say, bro.
I've never met him in person.
I just can't believe you had online FIFA lessons. yeah yeah i was getting so frustrated why why did you want
less because i wanted not to lose and i was getting beaten by like last minute goals and
i mean i've got like so the thing with me right is i have like i get obsessed with things
like you know some of those things like golf or boxing or like you know exercise are not healthy right
some of them like alcohol or whatever or playing fifa all the time aren't healthy for you sure
so the fifa one was just like i wanted to be better at it than i actually was so i was like
how do i improve and then i sort of like just got chatted to this guy and he's like right let's just
have a couple of games against each other how did you just get chat to this guy, and he's like, right, let's just have a couple of games against each other, and I can show you some tricks.
How did you just get chatting to this guy?
What happened?
I hit him up on Twitter.
Oh, my God.
And I was like, yo, bro, you seem like you know your shit when it comes to FIFA.
And he was like, yeah, man, I'm really good at it.
And I was like, oh, man, I'm really struggling.
Lucky enough, he'd seen some of my stuff, so he knew who I was.
So, yeah, we came to a deal, and he sort of helped me out.
You paid?
No, no, I didn't pay, no, no, no.
I did some tweets about it.
If you go back, I've done some tweets about it.
Oh, my God.
And out there somewhere in the ether is a video of me and him playing together.
Really?
Yeah.
And how good are you in this video?
I got pretty sick, you know.
I got a pretty good one of it.
I played, you know, James Madison,
the Leicester player.
I played him.
He only beat me 1-0,
and he's incredible.
I think he won a tournament
amongst all the footballers.
So, I got pretty good.
But, look, man,
when my chips are in,'re all in i can't make
if i was cat i'd worry about you a little bit you know yeah yeah i worry about myself quite a lot
yeah it's one of it's one of the triggers of my uh my mind i mean i'm sort of criticizing you i
did do the same with fortnight but i mean eventually this is what you always do but i sit
here i can see i'm going to sit
talking to one of my best friends in the world i'm fucking there's two of us in this conversation
yeah there's a load of people who are going to listen to this i don't think about that
i'm blushing because i and i've talked about all kinds of things because you're like yeah
look at me and then i'm like yeah generally for archives kind of pathetic and then you come in
and go and i did the same thing with fort, you know, you could look at it that way
or you could look at it another way.
I could have not said that.
Yeah, you could have not.
So listen, hit me up while I'm with Fortnite.
So the boys, they're not,
although they've just started to get back into it,
but they're playing Fortnite a lot during lockdown.
Yeah, I remember you saying.
And so Lisa and I kind of decided
to get a bit more relaxed about their screen time
because they weren't seeing their mates. and actually this was a way of them
sort of hanging out with their mates because they couldn't see them but they were chatting to them
on this thing right and then I said to Lisa we need to um we need to play fortnight with them
because like this is the thing they want to do and like this would be a good way of sort of uh
of getting involved so we started playing fortnite but i couldn't i just
couldn't i'm not talking about getting good at it i'm talking about we'd play a game and the
boys would end up sort of shouting at me because i was just being so shit i would do the thing
where i'd hide when the game started to avoid dying oh god that's sorry i don't want to be
condescending but wow well apparently that is the worst thing that is
a really tragic thing to do yeah but anyway what would happen is I'd then be the only survivor of
our team and then they'd need me to do stuff to resurrect them and stuff and I just was completely
fucking incapable of doing it and then you'd sort of end up in this situation where like sons are
going dad no dad go there like just all three of them just shouting at me
because I wasn't doing the thing
were you in a team with them or
yeah squad so we'd do like a squad thing
so you've got four controllers
no they've got like so we've got two controllers
on one console and one of them was playing on switch
one of them was playing on his phone or something
to be honest man that's one of the sweetest things
I've ever heard
not the shouting bit because that's genuinely like quite sad
but actually all of you together
playing as a squad
actually fills my heart.
I know people slag off computer
games and stuff, but that's a real moment, right?
Yeah, it's family time.
It's modern family time, right?
Anyway, I wrote an article about it,
about the fact that I was so shit at Fortnite,
and somebody reached out, and I ended up
getting a bit of Fortnite training on how to get better at it.
But it's a bit different to you,
because I wasn't, like, going from good,
trying to go from good to excellent.
I was trying to get from embarrassing
to vaguely competent.
Do you know what I mean?
How good did you get on it?
Oh, shit. I'm still shit.
Also, it's less embarrassing, mate.
You wrote a fucking article
for one of the
biggest national newspapers in the country right and someone reached out to you i trawled on
twitter and probably mentioned fucking sent messages to about 30 people of which two got
back to me no you're right what you did was much sadder but you know what i would say is so one day
charlie and i were playing just the two of us and we went into some sort of i don't
know what they're called some sort of area all right and they were like charlie had his uh like
speakers on so he could hear like you know you can chat to the people that you're fighting with
and a couple of kids from his school like logged on and i had a different name because i just
wanted to sort of play anonymous and then charlie's obviously told one of these kids it's his dad I swear to you this right he
kills me right and then I hear him go I just killed Romesh Ranganathan on fortnight right
and then all of a sudden fucking people start dropping into the area and I become like a fucking
trophy kill just like god so I just thought that this that kids start like targeting me and she's
trying to fucking destroy me let's keep good I just killed Romesh Ranganathan I just thought that this, that kid started, like, targeting me and just trying to fucking destroy me.
I just killed Romesh Ranganathan.
I just killed Romesh Ranganathan.
It was mental, man.
I had to just drop out of there.
Charlie didn't give a shit.
Loved it.
Didn't he try and protect you?
Yeah, but what can he do, man?
Do you know what I mean?
It's like, you know, you've got a choice.
You humiliate yourself or your dad getting it in the head.
You've got to let dad die.
And you know what?
I bet there's blokes going sort of like,
I don't know like in fucking
lockdown card games
going yeah my boy
shot Romesh Ranganathan
a day of Fortnite
fucking smashed
in a bitch
yeah
he thinks he's funny
not funny in the room
paying that for nothing
yeah you know
Romesh Ranganathan
just spent his whole
lockdown playing
Fortnite with kids
it all gets
all gets like
dissed up
and like the whole
story gets different
and you're not playing with Charlie.
You're just in a fucking fortnight room
with a load of nine-year-olds.
No, but that's what I was worried about, bro.
I was just thinking, this isn't a good look.
Do you know what I mean?
And also, you don't know...
You don't know how this is going to get reported.
I was sort of so nervous about saying anything to the kids
in cases like Roma, Schengen, Aethon
playing with a load of nine-year-olds
called one of them a c*** or whatever. Do you know what do you mean i had to turn my speakers off when it came to
to play fifa i get so annoyed with it really but now i just yeah i just i now i just i i've gone
back man i've regressed to playing career mode it's the time for me to chill and it's just me
versus a computer i like all that i'll tell you what I've been playing, and I'll tell you, I've been playing a lot
on the Switch,
Mario 3D World.
Oh, wow.
And I'm going to tell you,
playing that game,
and you can call it now,
and people can come at me
if they want,
playing Mario
is like meditation.
I'm convinced of that.
You're just so in.
You know,
a lot of video games are like this,
but Mario,
because Mario's so relaxing.
There's very little jeopardy in Mario
it doesn't really get
frustrating it just sort of gets quite enjoyable
the challenge of it
I think it's really good man
that's why I play FIFA
I find that against the computer
I think one of the most
relaxing things to do is play a video
game to the point where you're frustrated at your
standard of play and then contact people on social media to give you lessons
in exchange for whoring yourself out on your social media platforms you're right
that is a lot like meditation
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okay do you want to do some emails budgie let's do it my baby boy okay first email is from the eagle and eaglet well is it such thing as an eaglet i don't think so no cute quite a nice
little name um hi wolf owl and swan
my daughter was a bloody angel
until she hit 17
then boys drinking
disrespect
and a bloody nightmare
until it was time for uni
she did two months
and left
as she felt unwell
the unwell feeling
was a beautiful baby girl
that came along soon after
we start
we
this is a big in right
I know
it's a really twisty story this
we started rebonding
watching Misadventures
Ranganation
and King Gary
I've recently discovered
this amazing podcast
which I introduced her to
we're both obsessed
and text each other
from our bedrooms
during the night
saying listen to
Ep 30
32 minutes in etc
just so so funny
and gives us common ground
my question is
okay what I'm going
to tell you now is
this pre-story
is absolutely nothing to do with
the question it's one of the biggest left turns in an email i've ever seen uh my question is what
programs can you remember bonding with your parents over in your teenage years mine was bullseye
on a sunday evening still love watching it on dave and reminiscing absolutely adore you both
sweet sweet souls so much love the eagle and the eaglet.
Maybe eaglets are eagles,
little sort of babies.
What led you to that, Luther?
The fact that it's a mother and daughter emailing.
Yeah, that was...
That would have been it, I reckon.
Jesus.
Probably gradually bonded over.
I'd say Fools and Horses.
Yeah.
Big time. Fools and Horses. Yeah. Big time.
Fools and Horses.
Black Adder.
I used to...
Oh, Tom!
I can't believe
we've not talked about this before.
Black Adder.
Yeah, man.
It was the one.
Was so...
Oh, my God, I loved that show.
We used to...
I loved that show.
Me,
my mum, dad and sister
used to watch that.
I was obsessed with that. Obsessed with... Me and my dad used dad and sister used to watch that. I was obsessed with that.
Obsessed with me and my dad.
So it used to just sort of like,
sort of come back, quote it and everything.
It was, yeah, it was a big, big one for us as kids.
Blackadder III?
Yeah.
Well, in fact, do you know what?
You know what?
When I go back and think that the war,
the Second World War one was, yeah.
Yeah, I think 234 was pretty much perfect as well.
And also, you know, they did proper, proper jokes in them.
You know, like...
Yeah, and I remember watching that when we were parents.
And it makes you think, you know, like we're, like, you know,
you sort of, when you think about comedies now,
and as you become an adult, you want sort of,
people talk about edgy comedies and stuff like that.
But that experience,
and I think King Gary might give that to people now,
is that experience as a family sitting down and watching a thing that you can all enjoy.
I remember sitting down with my parents
and watching Blackadder.
It was so great, man.
That's such a great show.
I remember that last episode,
and I know people have talked about it,
but I think it's almost the most perfectly written
piece of artwork ever.
That last episode in the Second World War.
The push over the top.
Yeah, when they go over the top.
I think it's genuinely,
I think it goes far above comedy,
just on the basis that it was just like,
just to encapsulate the feeling
of what it must have been like.
Yeah.
It was insane.
I just meant that.
And on another flip turn,
Gladiators was a massive one in our house
on a Saturday afternoon or evening.
Gladiators?
Gladiators and Fish and Chips
and a little takeaway vibe.
A little Chinese takeaway.
And watching Gladiators was massive yeah we we were
obsessed i love that you and like your kin but um we used to sort of watch it and then all of our
mates would just like try and recreate like on the stairs or whatever you just put duvets on
stairs and try and run a pit or like playing gladiators was sick afterwards i also think
that gladiators was good for people good
for your humanity in what way right i think because you had to be amazing at something to
get on it right you had to be fit you had to be you know it's a bit like ninja warrior now i think
it's one of those things where you saw like bullseye was as well you know there was an element
of skill to it you know and it i just think that that was, it gave you something to admire the people
who put themselves through the gladiators
or, you know, two guys from sort of Bolton
who went on Bullseye.
I mean, Bullseye was a sick programme as well.
I'm still obsessed with Bullseye.
Yeah, I didn't like the prizes.
But then the prizes were amazing.
You've got to remember those things,
people didn't, and not everyone had in their houses then.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, I know, but who the fuck wants a boat?
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I know, but who the fuck wants a boat? Yeah. Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, I mean, look,
the truth of the matter is
I think you get a boat
and there's probably
only 5% of the society,
but you can sell that boat
to someone
who gets some sweet, sweet moolah.
And that's probably
the best way of doing it.
Yeah, but that's the point.
I like the fact
that you had a show
where someone could hand out
fucking,
it could keep the cash
in their pocket
and that was a reward price.
It wasn't like you
know you literally saw someone giving some cash that night yeah they go off rather than like now
it's like i always sit there and think how do these people get the money like for ten thousand
pounds or five thousand pounds you don't think that do well no obviously it goes into the bank
but i like i like seeing a transfer of someone giving someone 250 yeahid. Yeah, I like making that person a sort of a high potential of being mugged.
I like that.
Mate.
Rather than transferring it to your bank in a safe way,
we're going to give it to you in cold, hard cash.
Good luck on the tube, mate.
People didn't have bank transfers then.
You had to have checks and postal orders.
Sure.
This is before the internet.
Yeah, no, I get you.
You got dizzy with the internet now.
Yeah, it's a different world
I got all carried away
yeah
I got all carried away
sorry mate
me and the internet
I'm always doing that
what was your thing
in the Rankin-Athens
how so
well
we watched a lot of Blackadder
as I said
just on Blackadder
so I
we started watching it
on the second one right
yeah
and then
years later
I remember buying all of them like the box the second one right yeah and then years later I remember buying
all of them
like the box set
of everything right
yeah
and I watched
I've just got a vision
of you going
to HMV
and Blackadder's
all four series
are on sale
yeah
could I get
could I get Blackadder
please
yeah we got
we got the
we got the latest one there
no not the latest one there. No, not the latest one.
I want every one.
Just with a girl that you're vaguely seeing.
Well, there you go.
That's where your impression falls apart,
the idea that I'd be vaguely seeing a girl
around the time that I was into Blackadder.
I didn't get into Blackadder when I was 24, mate.
But I watched the first series. I didn't get into Blackadder when I was 24, mate. But I watched the first series.
I didn't really...
It's the first time I'd seen the first series,
having watched all of the others.
It's just nothing like the other series, right?
They hadn't found it yet, had they, really?
No.
It got...
I think it was like Rowan Atkinson and all that
sort of started taking over the writing.
I think it was a better one joined as a writer
yeah
I think so
yeah
I think that was a change up
but you know
the other thing
is that
if that happened now
if Blackadder
had dropped a first series
like that now
you never would have seen
a second or third series
do you know what I mean
like
they let it run
and you know
see what they could do with it
do you know what I mean
it's like
yeah but I think the talent
that they had on their disposal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's true.
Hugh Laurie in that is incredible.
Oh my God.
He is incredible.
Amazing.
When you watch Hugh Laurie there,
and obviously now like,
you know,
as a director and,
you know,
a house and everything,
you actually sort of like as a comedy performer in that last episode,
you know,
uh,
the over the top one,
his,
his ability to play an idiot,
but also really sort of like make the whole audience empathetic towards him.
Isn't just amazing.
He's just,
he like,
I think for anyone,
if you want a short,
sharp course in like how to be an incredible comedy actor,
just go and watch you,
Laurie.
Cause he's,
he is,
he's the G of all Gs.
Oh my God. It's so good. It the g of all g's oh my god it's
so good it's so good it's great shout um okay eagle and eaglet thank you so much for your email
very much so together and let me say it's it's put a smile on my face knowing that you two uh
yeah you're vibing and you're you're connecting because it's an important thing so uh that you're soaring together makes me happy
hi rom tom and swan firstly i hope all three of you are well probably best if i was kept
anonymous don't fancy anyone contacting me after i tell this story before i begin i just wanted to
thank you both for the okay there's a lot of sort of very nice stuff about this podcast
uh now for the story i was listening to episode 43 a few weeks back,
and I was crying with laughter until I realized something.
I was in that lesson that day when Ron ripped his suit on the side of the desk.
I thought it was something I'd blocked out,
given that the school I went to was essentially hell,
and thought I'd blocked out all memories of that five years,
but it turns out I hadn't.
I remember vividly coming into class that day and thinking what the fuck is going on here
this is a bit that's quite embarrassing now i'm just going to tell you
yeah i also remember a lot of my year talking about mr god this is so this is worse than the
trouser thing i love you by the way lisa for this. I love you, by the way, Lisa, for this email.
I love you, this one.
This is amazing.
I remember the majority of my year talking about Mr. Reaganathan trying to teach fractions to lose yourself by Eminem.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
It's like whatever you do, you try and get hip-hop and rap into it
it's insane how would how does that even work you look by the way you've gone from looking
very saucy very hot to looking very very embarrassed i'd arguably say that you have
just i was running the fucking good good fucking race with the fucking mug of the
mug of the episode
award, and you have literally just
gone, you've Carl Lewis passed my link
for Christie.
What was... Did you genuinely do that?
I can't...
I honestly can't remember.
How did that even work? I don't know.
I actually...
So how do you do that to fractions
oh my god you know what as well this tragic thing i don't want to lay on to you because i
love you my brother you'd have had to have thought that out you don't just come up with that you'd
have had to write it down i i've got no recollection of doing that it's so fucking embarrassing
you must have
did you dance when you did it or
no
oh god it's so sad
can you imagine a maths teacher
just sort of
you've got one chance to add these fractions
I've just got an idea
of the kid
do you make the denominators the same or do you throw it away
oh is that what it was
no I'm just trying to imagine
what it would have been
I can't remember
I bet as well
they were like
oh no he's getting out
his hoodie
he's going to do
the thing again
pulling out your hoodie
so it was down
and it's like
you've only got one chance
oh god
oh JT
do me a favour JT
just lace up a bit
of that on there for us.
Yeah.
Just to hear.
If you're adding two fractions,
you've got to make the denominators the same.
Cross multiply.
Out of breath as well.
Doing it like Eminem.
Yo, there'll be people in this room like maths.
Yo, if you had to add two fractions, what would you do?
Oh, my God.
I love the idea of kids just nudging themselves.
Like you're turning up in some frayed baggy jeans.
So, hello, Mr Ranganathan.
What are you doing today?
Oh, it's fractions today.
So hello, Mr. Ranganathan.
What are you doing today?
Oh, it's Fractions today.
And let's just say you might want to come past my room at ten past two this afternoon
because I'm going to be laying down a track.
Can you imagine if the other fucking maths teacher
has heard about that?
Have you heard about what Ranganathan's doing?
You know he's the shittiest one at maths in the department.
Well, he's covering up by doing
lose yourself
and stuff
fuck
um
coming to
so uh
I also remember
the majority of
my year talking
I actually feel
I actually feel
quite
I'm actually quite
defeated by that
I also remember
don't be defeated
we've all done
muggy stuff
I also remember
the majority of
my year talking
about Mr Wagoner
trying to teach
fractions to lose
yourself and coming
to the conclusion
that teaching maths
in our school is
making you have an
enormous breakdown
of self-care.
Jeez.
I think you left
soon after and I
think if I'm honest
most of us thought
it was because of
ripped trouser or
fraction hate until
about 10 months later
we saw you on
Russell Howard's
Good News and
realised that's why
you left.
Thank you both for
being such wonderful
souls.
P.S.
Tom I've watched
both series of
King Gary in a day
and I've been on repeat ever since.
All the best, the Llama.
Well, Llama, thank you so much for...
You know what?
Look, I want to just jump in here, bro.
Okay.
I want to jump in here, right?
And it's easy for me just to give you a bit of a shoo-in there
about the lose-yourself thing.
Well, I think that ship has sailed.
No, no, no, no. I just want to make sure that although the ship is sailing, you a bit of a shoo-in there about the lose yourself thing well i think that ship has sailed
no no no no i just want to make sure that although the ship is sailing upon it is a flag that flies very very proudly because i think for all of those children in that class yeah yes you might not have
been like the normal boring old math teacher but I think, and I think everyone would agree,
I wish I'd had a maths teacher who tried to make maths
a little bit more interesting, a little bit more fun.
It's the most boring subject.
So for a maths teacher to pull his trousers apart
and fucking rap and fucking...
For a maths teacher to deliver a song from 8 Mile
with his dick out...
..really shows a level of dedication.
I'm just saying most of
you know
this
ex-student of yours
sounds like
they had a pretty
tough time at school
and
you know
if you can be that
one happy memory
for that
one child who you
taught
then that's a pretty
amazing thing
well it's very kind of you
to say Tom
does it sound like a
happy memory
no I think it probably
was
let me just
let me just sort of
quote something, I remember vividly
coming to the class that day and thinking
what the fuck is going on here
I also
remember that most
of our year coming to the conclusion that
teaching maths in our school was making her have a nervous
breakdown of some kind
Right, you're just, look, I think she
or he fond finally remembers it
okay okay and i think there's probably a lot of kids who remember wacky mr raganathan and his
unethical ways of doing teaching so um guys welcome to the lesson uh the bad news is we're
doing quadratic equations the good news is we're doing it typically for a ranganathan maths lesson
a little bit differently have you heard ymca no look man you just that you're a cool guy and i
think i i'd imagine that there's a fist bump and a high five for every kid that left that lesson
and i you know what i bet three or four of them every now and again are worried about doing fractions or sums and they go back to that moment of lose yourself and mate sometimes the waves that we
create that people are scared of are actually the waves that we ride upon remember that yeah
yeah no thank you thanks tom thanks for reaching out there and you do a little
grin there because you know you don't really mean anything you just said okay the next email is from i might have to beat that out having sort of quickly skim the email as i've
said there i don't really think we should give us no more anyway love the pod even though you
promised bonus episodes and i get let down every friday when there isn't one okay that's a fair
criticism anyway my girlfriend eats pretty much every food imaginable like she's never been fed before
and it really gets to me i've tried saying to her that she eats loudly and it annoys me
but then she just sits there all sad and stops eating which then makes me feel bad that i've
even said anything i know the problem is mine but i can't stress enough how loudly she actually eats
the whole family's like it and it makes sitting down for a meal extremely hard,
as I want to just enjoy a meal
without hearing heavy breathing, loud chewing,
excessive chomping.
None of them know they're doing it,
and they've obviously never had anyone comment on it,
so they look at me like I'm the weirdo,
and I point out it sounds like
they're all gargling their food.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Keep doing it.
Okay, having read this,
I don't know what Tom's going to say,
but can we, JT, can we beep out the name here? Because I don't know what Tom's going to say but can we JT can we beep out the
name here because
yeah yeah yeah I
don't feel like this
is going to be good
yeah yeah for
no yeah yeah
beep out that one as
well yeah as a loud
eater uh and I'm a
phenomenally loud
eater um I think
you're exaggerating
I've eaten with you
many times and
yeah I've never been
appalled by the way
you ate but anyway
go on no I mean I can now and again if I'm really hungry i chow down i chow down hard you know um
but i don't know i think it's a it's a tough one isn't it because i think it's a really amazing
thing that your girlfriend enjoys her food and so does her family i think actually what my advice
would be is like for you just to fucking get in there and relax with your eating like when you're eating
with our family don't do it with everyone because it might make other people uncomfortable and then
you become that guy but when you're eating with your girlfriend and you're eating with our family
just let your inhibitions go just fucking chow that food brother just stick it in and just do
what they're doing like just enjoy enjoy the sort of caveman fucking regal feeling of just being
like henry the eighth and just
grabbing a bit of chicken and stuffing into your face and eating with your mouth open like i think
that would be the best advice in the world i can give you yeah and just staring at everyone around
and like laughing and just sort of like you know just feeling you you know feeling like that you
and the food are one we and before you let go of the food maybe that'll be far i don't know i just think that when it comes to eating you know if you eat with lords and
ladies and it's all regal and you've got to remember what knife and fork you're using everyone
puts so much fucking like like emphasis on that oh god we've got i've got to eat like you know
but if you're eating with people who are loud, do the same thing. I think eating should be like running or like dancing.
There's not one type of that thing.
There's loads.
You wouldn't turn up to a fucking salsa class
and start dancing like you're fucking in a ballroom
or a fucking hip-hop club, would you?
Every kind of vibe is a different thing.
And maybe with eating, we should be the same.
Let your inhibitions go and fly my friend
hmm
er
it's very good advice
from Tom as always
er
I feel like
I hope you don't mind
me saying
****
please beat that one out again
erm
I hope you don't mind me saying
I think you've been
a bit out of order man
and
and
because
look I don't know
what your relationship's like
but
this girl is like she's just enjoying her food.
She's got that princess.
Yeah, and on top of that, you know, her whole family,
they eat a different way to you.
So she's eating the way she's been brought up.
And I think the change has to come from you, not her.
I think you need to find a way to deal with this.
I just don't think it's okay to tell people about the way they eat.
You know,
if it was,
if they're like wasting food or I don't know,
being rude or whatever,
that's one thing.
But I think just somebody eating loudly,
we have to eat to survive.
Okay.
And eating is an enjoyable thing if you love your girlfriend do
you really want to put it on her that she has to second guess the way she eats every time she eats
a meal with you is that what you want for somebody or do you just want somebody to throw themselves
into eating their food and enjoy it uh the way they want to. I just think, man, like,
you've got to put her happiness above yours here and you've got to do something about that.
I don't know how you're going to manage that situation,
but, you know, we eat three times a day, right?
I don't know if you're living together or whatever,
but do you want her to not be comfortable
every single time she eats in her life with you?
Is that really the person you want to be i don't think you do man you sound like a nicer person than that
so what i would say to you is you've got to find a way to manage this yourself and the management
of that has to not involve her or bother her at all you've got to figure out a way of doing this
because it would be if you were able to figure out a way of doing this because it would be if you were able
to figure out a way of dealing with this whether that be i don't know i'm get freestyling this
hypnosis or just trying to figure out ways managing this or just being strong about it and ignoring it
it would be a wonderful thing that you could do for your girlfriend because she gets all sad and
stops eating do you want to be the person that
makes your girlfriend sad and stop eating i don't want to be that person so have a think this is
incredible advice and i've got to say man that was yeah just to lay on as well you know who i think
would be the person who be like mowgli from jungle book in in what way just wear a little loincloth
no but like think about madley right one moment
he's eating with the bears and then he's eating with the lions and then he's eating with like the
birds and whatever so he he caters in different ways he eats in different ways he learns to eat
in different ways he learns to behave in different ways so you don't just behave one way with one
animal you have to behave different ways and different and then you yourself become a much
more superior you know wider examined human being i lost it on the inside it's a shame that's a shame
yeah that's a real shame yeah that's a real yeah i was you know what i was running with a torch then
and i could see you really like clapping me on and then then I tripped over. Yeah. I accidentally set fire to Mowgli's village.
Okay.
I hope that helps.
Can we beep out whenever we mentioned the name,
please.
Okay.
Tom.
Yeah.
It's,
it's come by quick,
but it is about that time for you to...
How do you think this episode's gone?
I've enjoyed it.
If you were to look back on it and review our performance.
It felt like a nice wrestle at times, but I've enjoyed it, man.
I've enjoyed it.
I've enjoyed just looking at you.
You've been absolutely...
You look like...
You know what you look like today?
Go on.
You're like a goddamn star.
Thanks, mate.
I appreciate it.
Sitting on your bed, you genuinely look like...
Yeah.
You look like the kind of comedian that I'm glad I have as a goddamn star. Thanks, mate. I appreciate it. Sitting on your bed, you genuinely look like, yeah, you look like the kind of comedian
that I'm glad I have as a best friend.
Wow.
That is a really lovely thing to say.
Okay.
Tommy,
you want to take us out of this ting?
Oh, God.
What?
I suspect,
I suspect,
I suspect you slightly regret
using the Mowgli thing in the advice.
But don't worry.
I have more than one pair of shoes. Okay, can run in different styles because life is a game of perception my friends
different things are perceived differently for different people for example once one person is
walking down the street and it's lashing down with rain and they see a puddle. Some people stand back from the puddle, scared that a lorry might pass and spray the puddle all over them.
Some people, however, look down into the puddle
and use that puddle as a mirror.
Things can be more than just one thing.
The lonely seagull that roars down from the heavens to nick your chips,
that's annoying, that's frustrating.
But by God, that seagull's hungry.
And if you've ever
seen an Attenborough documentary you know that it's harder for them to get fed anyway so you
are doing a better thing than it may be perceived upon your brain so perception is hard it's always
worth whenever in any situation looking as you will always look and thinking how you always think, but then pushing your mind a little further, thinking,
hey, the shoot boots on the other foot, how's that person feeling?
Where are they coming from?
How do they perceive this situation we're in?
When getting a football shirt,
perception is a great thing to put across the back
because it means not only have you perceived the football shirt,
but what wearing it entails.
You're a good person.
You're a sweet soul.
Go perceive the world in so many ways,
but keep your vision your own.
That's lovely.
I really enjoyed that.
I would say to people that I wouldn't endorse getting perception
across the back of your football shirt. Yeah. I don't know know i think it would be kind of cool it's quite expensive one person
gets that done i'll get it done okay right if you can send a photo in of you with a football
shirt that says perception across the back of it tom will get the same thing done and he will
actually talking about talking about our first live show. Leads me to talking about,
we are making headway with the merchandise
and I know that we are full of hollow promises
like a fucking pathetic character
from a Jane Austen novel.
Wow.
Yeah, I know.
I'm more red than you would have thought.
But we are moving down the road
of getting these things going.
And the reason, guys, we have to be honest with you,
the bonus episode hasn't happened or aren't happening at the moment.
We're both very, very busy.
Both of our schedules open up.
Oh, my God.
Sorry, I wasn't going to go on.
But Romesh has, early on in this podcast,
talked about the fact he's done no exercise today,
but is now drinking out of
what looks like a gallon jug of hydration
with hydrate on it like he's done a massive workout
oh my god i love you almost reaganathan and everyone who sells in you
anyway merchandise is on the way bonus episode probably isn't for a little bit yeah i've probably
got a couple of weeks till you finish with the regonathan right wow wow so you've been sticking
that on me no no it's been my fault up to now because i've been filming but now yeah we've got
another three yeah sure yeah sure yeah um all right love you guys thank you so much for listening
steam heavy but just steam yeah absolutely I actually didn't mind that.
Take care.
Bye-bye.
Peace out.
Bye-bye.
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