Wolf and Owl - Episode 47

Episode Date: October 27, 2021

We’re talking… new homes, family holidays, fashion statements (explained via The Transformers), removal companies, excessive hypochondria and the possibilities of a Romesh statue in Crawley. Plus, we answer some of your email questions on getting over embarrassing moments, the right way to deal with workplace abuse, and a Tom Davis positivity generator. For any feedback, questions or comments please email us at [e-mail] - we’d love to hear from you. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Deal so good, everyone approves. Only at HomeSense. Yeah. Hello. About two grown men dressed up as a bird and a dog Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes Welcome to the Wolf and Owl podcast inside the raid This one Hello, how you doing? Yo, cut it up, get loose I want you to look around, wherever you are right now Smile and say, I'm ready to listen Who wants a rewind?

My heart is true, I'm ready to listen I need the wolf, I need the owl Here's the potion to the medicine We're ready to rock How you the wolf I need the owl here's the potion to the medicine we're ready to rock how you doing baby you look good I'm very well I'm sort of

on the come down from quite a stressful weekend tell us what's happened bro I've moved house the castle is operating the castle is operating a few things have happened you've moved to your new lair

yeah how is it pretty no it's good, but like moving houses. When's the last time you moved house? Me and Catherine

moved house two years ago. Who are you looking off camera? Catherine's just come in because my whole family is very excited about the fact that I'm doing a podcast with you today.

Yeah, but this live. Catherine, it's a recording, it's a podcast. It's not, we're not filming it. Right, love you loads. That's why you're saying hi what

you're saying hi see you Kat love you is anyone else coming in my family's all very excited yeah why don't you say hello it's all very embarrassing

now my family's saying what's going on now my family are all very excited about the fact that you're on the podcast go on then

alright there's my niece hiya hello how you doing you alright you alright there's my niece hiya hello how you doing you alright you alright that's Flamesh that's nearly

everyone I think night mate love you see you later night mate right there we go mate that's everyone

there he's out what do you think it says about the podcast that people don't they can't tell whether we've started it or not what does it tell you

about the level of content that we're providing i think it's the fact that there's been a real excitement which actually says more about the fact i'm on a family holiday and most of this evening has been good or today actually when i said i was working to wake up but originally the podcast at 8am most people are up ready with ramesh questions so it really has been a big part of today, the whole thing. Where are you right now? I'm in the Cotswolds. And who's away with you?

My mother, my father, my sister, her husband, and their two children, and obviously Catherine. That's lovely that you're all going away as a big family. Yes, we've had a very sweet time. The Cots shout out

to Star on the Wall. What an amazing place have you been? no no I've not been oh you'd love it here you really would is that

sorry is that the place that you're staying at? Stonewall yeah yeah yeah it's a very is it some sort of is it some sort of

celeb like place to stay that I don't that I've just embarrassed myself by not knowing no no no wait you know

it's a very quintessential British town where dreams are, you know what? It's not... It's the very quintessential British town where dreams are made. You know what? One thing I love, there's no chain stores here at all. No chain stores at all?

No. Everything is local stores. It's got a real sweet sound. So, yeah, shout out to all of the shop tellers. I know. Did you know what? That's great

because one thing that people say about you, and I've said this to a lot of people, you never use chains, do you? When it comes to restaurants or clothes or whatever, you never, ever. Do you know what I mean?

It's like, you're the sort of guy that, you know, if, if Leon's, if there's not a Leon about, you just let that ride straight off you. You know what?

I'd rather find a local cafe actually. You know what, since we've been here, I've, I've really pushed the local vibe. We've had to because you've just said there's no change. No, no, no. But what I mean is, I've been going into the local coffee house, the carriage house,

having a little chat with everyone in there, a bit of a laugh for one morning coffee. When I stay somewhere on, I don't like just a holiday. I like to inhibit it. Inhibit? I'm sure you do inhibit. Do you mean inhabit? Yes, yes yes inhabit so i like to know at least 15 to 20 locals by the time i leave the place so they know they can turn around and

say oh bloody hell i remember old tom davis came to stay here what a good bloke he was he drank in the local pub and brought people drinks and laughed and cried with us. You know, that all sounds lovely. And listen, I'm going to say to you, you do strike me as the sort of guy that makes friends with people where you stay. What I don't like about that is now I won't ever go there with you. Why? Because what I don't want is to be shown around and go,

okay, so just before we go into this particular place, a little bit of a story. When I last went in here, let's just say a good time was had. So some of which, I've got to be honest with you, can't quite remember. So let's just see what happens. I'm going to go in. I'm going to introduce you to Frank.

When it comes to Frank, listen, he will like you. Let me take the lead on the initial conversation. That's all I'd say. I'll be like this. Come in for a coffee. This is Daphne. This is Clive. I want you to look after Romesh

with whatever. Mate, let me shout out something else for this town, man. This will blow your dick off and leave you with just a nub. Right? They really, really look after the vegans

in this place. Don't lie to me. Don't lie to me. Mate, I will tell you now, bro. My nephew's a vegan, right? Right. now, bro. My nephew's a vegan, right? Right. He's seven. Your nephew's a vegan?

He's seven, yeah, yeah. Your seven-year-old nephew's a vegan? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big time. How come? Don't know, man. That's how he fucking rolls out. You know what?

Your nephew, man. Big up your nephew. He's an absolute cheater kid. Ben, ciao, Ben. But what I'm saying to you now is they really care for vegans. Yeah. It's like they reallyater kid, Ben. Ciao, Ben. But what I'm saying to you now is they really care for vegans. It's like they really, really respect them. And they put a gentle armour on all the vegan shoulders and say,

you know what? While you're in the world, you're right with us. Okay. Well, maybe I'll check it out. I think, you know what? I can tell you now. The three of your boys, I tell you who'd love it here, is Lisa. Lisa could stick on a hunt at Wellies,

on a gilet, and just bowl about town. She loves that. Gilet. You know, she's never happier than when she's in a pair of hunters, a gilet,

a little barber overcoat. That is, that is my wife. Does she like that vibe? In paradise. When you go to a different, when you go to an area like that, do you dress,

do you dress to the vibe? Catherine does. I, Lisa does. I don't really. So I've been known to mash up a pair of Yeezys walking through the woods or whatever. Do you know what I mean?

It's like, I'm not, I'm not good at adapting. Catherine's been walking around here looking like one of the locals. I've been walking around in a Hugo Boss, Anthony Joshua tracksuit. Shout out,

Hugo Boss tracksuits. And, um, my new favourite brand of t-shirt which is an Aries t-shirt so you're posting about that yeah they're really nice man

really nice I think you'd really really save them yeah I'll have to check them out have they asked you to say something no no no

no I saw your little Instagram story and you sort of said best t-shirts ever right which I don't know, if they have paid you something,

I hope you were like, you know, cards on the table. You also said about four other t-shirt companies in what, the last two months? No,

let me just shut up. I haven't paid me anything. Okay. I'd just like to spread the word. What happens a lot, and I'm not saying that I am a fashionista

or that I am a leader of people. I'm just saying quite a few people contact me about T-shirts and say, you're a big man. What kind of T-shirt are you repping at the moment? So I like to get people in the loop with T-shirts. While we're talking about this, about you and clothing, While we're talking about this, about you and clothing, I texted you the other day because on Steve Stamp's Instagram,

it's the Curse Rat Pie. Yeah. And you had a denim Adidas. Was it Ivy Park tracksuit? Ivy Park, Deontay vibes. You looked unbelievable, man. It was so sick. Did you get a lot of compliments that night? Yeah, yeah. I got looked unbelievable, man. It was so sick. Did you get a lot of compliments that night?

Yeah, yeah. I got a few, man. I got a few. I got a few people sort of like shocked by it as a piece of... Yeah, I had the matching hat

as well, but I didn't wear that. I had it as a freebie. What do you mean matching hat? The denim hat that also goes with it. What kind of hat is that denim hat?

A bucket hat, man. A sweet, sweet bucket hat. Could you see yourself like rocking all three of those items together ever? If I was to go out with you, a denim hat? A bucket hat, man. A sweet, sweet bucket hat. Could you see yourself, like, rocking all three of those items together ever? If I was to go out with you, you know what? If me and you...

Did you lose me there? Totally lost you, yeah. Totally lost you. Is that my Wi-Fi or yours? I've just done a test on mine and I've got, honestly, my internet is so quick. It's insane. So rapid.

Mine is not particularly quick. Right. It could be more people on the Wi-Fi here. This is a holiday home. Holiday cottages aren't great for Wi-Fi, bro. No, I realise that.

But, you know, I thought that when you go to a holiday cottage, everyone's, like, sort of interacting with each other and having a nice family time. But it turns out when your family go on holiday together,

they're all straight onto the hub. Mate, we are, we're a family at the modern times mate so we get everyone's like have we got a wi-fi code share it and that's the last conversation we had since we've been here until you were coming online um so anyway you listen you looked unbelievable so that outfit i want to ask you a couple of questions because you know that you are a sartorial sort of idol of mine. You know that, right? I do look up to you. I love you forever. So that is quite a... I would describe that track suit as a statement.

It's a statement. So how often can you wear that? Bearing in mind that if you wear a pair of jeans, you can wear a pair of jeans over and over again. People aren't going to go, he's wearing the same pair of jeans because they don't even know what type of jeans you're wearing. It's such a non-item, unless you're wearing some real super drippy of ECs or something like that.

But regular jeans, they're just going to notice. With that tracksuit, people remember you wore that tracksuit. So does that mean you have to be a bit sporadic with that? Yeah, I think so. What a great question and i hope the answer will be as uh sweet and as natured as the questions intended so um what's great about that tracksuit bro is the top half is super sick to wear with a pair of uh cords or you wear that top with a a sort of tapered trouser

maybe very easy right smarten the top up or you could on a flip of that you could take the fucking bottoms

and you wear them with like a I don't know like a fucking nice jumper nice twill jumper I'm all right in saying can I just

do you mind if I just sort of step in and freeze a little bit I'm also right in saying if you wanted to you could just wear the hat somewhere Now it's time to get the idea Tracks it wrong. All right. It's together. It's strong, right? It's a statement piece, right? It's like I don't know the Transformers when they were hanging out together

But it doesn't mean that Bumblebee and Optimus Prime can't go out on their own and fucking hustle with other fucking I don't know,

waterbox and shit, right? So it's just like, you know, right, that's probably the... No, what is it?

Are you doing this for my benefit, this Transformers thing? I don't know much about the Transformers. No, I'm trying to figure, it's obvious

listening to you for 20 seconds you know absolutely know much about Transformers. I'm trying to figure, it's obvious listening to you for 20 seconds you know absolutely fuck all about Transformers. You call them the Autobots for a start, right? Right.

Okay. And then, I'm thinking to myself, so hold on, if he doesn't know, because normally when people go into an example, they go into an example

of something they know about. You don't know anything about it. So now I'm thinking, I think I'm more inside because this prick thinks this is the way that he anything about it. So now I'm thinking, I think I'm more inside because this prick thinks this is the way that he connects with me. No, because it's like

speaking a foreign language to some people. When I'm explaining fashion to you, right? Right. I've got to look at a world that you definitely understand. So when I'm explaining fashion,

no, I can go, what would he know about? I know, like Transformers, Star Wars. Yeah. Sure. So what your thought process was I can go, what would he know about? I know, like Transformers, Star Wars. Sure. So what your thought process was is Romesh won't understand

that you can wear each of these elements of the tracksuit individually. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to give an example of Optimus Prime and Bumblebee deciding to hang out with different Autobots. That's a way that he's going to understand that you can wear the trousers

or the top with different things. Is that what? No, but then I did have as a backup, if you didn't understand that, I was going to get into the Marvel character thing. Great, great, great. You're scaffolding my learning. You know, like Thor can hang out with his cousin, he's played by Tom Hiddleston, but also he can be a part of the Avengers.

It's his brother. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But what I'm saying, yeah his brother. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. What I'm saying. Yeah, exactly. Now you're getting me. I understood before. I don't know if maybe I need to change

my facial expression because I did fully understand everything you were saying. In fact, if we can just cast our minds back, I actually gave you, sarcastically, because it was so basic

what you were saying, I gave you an example of the hat and then you then decided, oh, you an example of the hat and then you then decided oh he's obviously not getting it and then decided to give me this fucking transformers example but what's quite nice right if you see what's happened in society and what me and you are doing right you've learned you can break a track suit up into many different items i haven't no okay i've learned that Thor is Tom Hiddleston's brother.

Thor is not Tom Hiddleston's brother. Thor is Loki's brother who's played by Tom Hiddleston. So you haven't learned anything is the truth. But did you learn something? I knew that you could wear elements of a tracksuit

separately, yes. Yeah. What I did learn was that that tracksuit comes with a bucket hat. So there you go. And also, there might be

some person there who's just waiting for a glimmer of light and a glimmer of hope. And there you go. And also, there might be some person there who's just waiting for a glimmer of light and a glimmer of hope. And here we are. We've given that. They've found out loads. What would you do

if I wore that tracksuit and one day I wore it to an event that I knew that you were going to be at? How annoyed would you be just on the scale? Honoured.

I feel honoured. What about if I knew you were wearing the tracksuit and I turn up in the tracksuit that would be probably if you said what is your three

moments of the dream situation you could be in if me and you were walking around a party both in that Adidas tracksuit Tom Tom Tom

Tom Tom Tom just cut the bullshit if you and I wore the same tracksuit you know that

Sky thing that we went to that we were talking about Sky event what would your genuine reaction be if you and I

what are you talking about mate we'd look like a fucking pair of idiots we'd look like a pair of idiots this is the

difference between me and you right I know that we are a pair of idiots I know that we are a pair of idiots. The best possible situation for me and you is people going,

oh my God, have you seen Tom and Romesh? And them going, no, you can't miss them. They're both wearing the same Ivy Park Beyonce denim tracksuit. It's fucking genius. Because people will give us more credit than we actually deserve. And even if we argue and go to people, no, we didn't know we were going to wear this.

Either of us. People will go, yeah, you fucking did. And people will think that we're great. We are alchemists or fucking Antifa kind of vibes. i i disagree i mean listen i think it's very sweet you're saying that but i disagree i think it would be i feel i feel doing it it'd be an honor to buy you that tracks do you like it that much i love the track would you wear it would i wear it yeah i would but not an event that you were going to be out wearing

the same but if you wear it you have to say that you were inspired by me. What do you mean? Who do I have to say it to? Put it this way. I'm going to tell you a true fact, right? Let me just tell you something. This is a big shout out to you, and this is actually something I was never going to say to you,

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Yeah. Just a couple of things I want to talk to you about. Yeah. So, you know what? I moved house, right? Yeah. Incredibly stressful, I found it. Incredibly stressful. I was very tired. about yeah yeah so you know what i moved i moved house right um yeah incredibly stressful i found it incredibly stressful i was very tired i'd done the rangination and then i did i did a day of rob

and romesh versus right yeah and then i had the weekend off first weekend off in ages and we decided to do the move because we planned it we're going to do the move i was battered right um first thing to give you an idea of how stressful I found it, at one stage of the day, I've been doing a bit of lifting. Lifting? Lifting, like, stuff into the van

and out of the van and stuff, right? Did you not get removal, then? No. What? Oh, my God. What do you... I love you so... You know, you're...

Genuinely, there's so many things that you've helped me with, as the easy thing, but also intellectually so, right? I fucking wish to God that I knew that you were going to get removal men, and I'd have turned you into get removal men, bro. No matter the cost. Because that's how the world turns, right?

Can I tell you who is the vetoed? Who? The swan. What? Yeah. You know what? we didn't move everything in one day we did it over a couple

of weeks right so well I mean yeah that's but mate I tell you now removal men genuinely

and this is a shout out of any removal men out there I salute you or women or women yeah yeah well removal people removal

removal removals removals removers removers right all removers removers Removal. Removals. Removals. Removalers. Removalers. Removers. Removers. Removers.

Removers, right? All removers. Removalers. I salute you. And I walk with you. I've actually done removing as a job. When? I work for Funnels Removals in Morden.

Okay, so talk me through the process. How does a removal work? You don't pack up for them, do you? They pack it up. Mate, sometimes you do. That's brilliant if you're a removaler and amazing if you are a person who is getting moved. So you would go into a house and everything's just as normal

when you start packing up from scratch. Sometimes, man. They were the great ones. Mate, this will blow your fucking mind. Go on. When I was 18, I moved a family to France. You moved a family to France? Yes.

When you were 18? Yeah, I was a part of a removal gang. How many in the team? Three of us. Jesus, I hope the other two are fucking top notch. Can you imagine seeing an 18-year-old you being in charge of your move to France? I'd fucking call it off.

I was a labourer. I was the lowest of the low. I was getting a lot of orders. But, mate, for me, I nearly got a nosebleed when I heard. Why? I nearly cried when they told me that I was going to be moving a family to France. So what happened? You packed it all up. Did you go to France then? Yeah, we went to France with them.

We went out before them. So we got the keys to their house. This is amazing. So when they turned up, we were packing their stuff away for them. So I had a ready-made home. I remember number one, looking the guy in the eye, I had a ready-made home. I remember, number one, looking the guy in the eye, I was like,

18-year-old me, thinking, you, sir, are one of the coolest people I've ever met because you're just fucking going for it. What do you mean going for it? By going to France?

He's moving two smoking barrels out to France. Yeah, yeah. I guess that, yeah, that is quite cool. That is quite cool. How did he seem?

Did they seem quite panicky about it? Were they quite chilled? Yeah, in retrospect, they were quite nervous about it. Like, neither of them really spoke a lot of French. I think of them now from time to time. You know, every time I try

and every time I win, like, I think about... Jesus Christ. Why can't I have a real conversation with you? No. Why does this have to go this way every time? No. I think of them.

I think of the family. You don't. You don't. You don't. You don't think of them. Okay. Can we just, you do not think of them.

In fact, you were barely able to scratch together your memory of the story now when we started talking about removals. No, look, I remember their name being something like the Crawfords.

Right. Yeah, or something like that. And I remember, like, going through all their drawers and putting stuff in boxes and, yeah, and also, I remember thinking,

bloody hell, they've got a lot of furniture and they're moving out of their house. It's far too much for it for this small house in France it feels like a big move

to take everything to France yeah and then do you know this is genuine the woman the wife of the family

kept on just laughing going what are we doing oh no what are we doing midway through midway through the day I was lifting and putting down stuff

yeah and I got a pain in my chest. Oh, shit. It wasn't your heart? Well, that's the thing. I didn't know what was going on. Oh, no.

And then I Googled signs of having a heart attack. I mean, that's how worried I was. Just to put this into context, I am quite a hypochondriac. Like, I catastrophize every symptom. But, yeah, I genuinely, not genuinely, I suspected i might be having a heart attack but i wasn't actually how if anything it was a massive overreaction yeah but mate do you know what this is something that you know i was actually at some point going

to bring up well like i've over the last couple of weeks months i've got obsessed with going i was great and not going on the research and stuff but right when you feel something but i've got obsessed with it now i've got a real problem man i've got a real problem where like you just manage to keep searching until you discover that this is going to lead to your death pretty soon mate i'm so glad you said this because genuinely i've literally because i've been up in liverpool on my own away from like katherine who's very good at settling my mind down she's very good at sort of like reassuring me and stuff I've been left

to my own devices about three I've pretty much been through three or four different cancers um nearly every other

day I've had COVID or fucking some other fucking disease I'm obsessed with it yeah it's mad isn't it and

and like it's really bad and this sounds really selfish and self-involved but whenever you hear about somebody dying of some sort of illness or cancer or whatever, there's part of you that thinks, oh, God, that's how I'm going to go.

Or there's part of you that reacts to it in a kind of making it about yourself, a very small part of you. And so when you keep hearing about that and reading about that, any time I feel anything, I think oh this is this is you know what freaked me out recently what

I'm waking up nearly every night at 2.50 exactly yeah I've had this so this is a madness right

so then Catherine says stop looking at your phone to see what time it is relax like meditate and go back to sleep

so where we're staying at the moment we're in Cotswolds beautiful place shout out to Cotswolds. Beautiful place. Shout out to the Cotswolds. But close by there's a church and it's got church bells. I wake up,

I lay in bed last night and I'm just lying there and I'm like, don't look at your watch, don't look at your fucking phone. Right? And then the bells chime. Ding.

Ding. Ding. Then they stop. They sound like tiny bells. Right. Actually, JT can you say three bells drum

right so three bells you know what I'm saying though ding ding ding it's a small bell isn't it dong dong dong that's those are big bells

yeah yeah I don't want to get into dings and dongs I'm just saying for future if you're doing okay when I'm telling this story next time

and I probably won't be able to because that's the killer of this fucking podcast is once you tell the story on here you can't really

tell it again it will never be the same alright but let's go like dong dong dong

right three big bells and then I know I feel like you're getting a bit annoyed at that bell correction has that annoyed you well no no it's fine Right, three big bells. And then I know... I feel like you're getting a bit annoyed at that bell correction. Has that annoyed you? Well, no, no, no, it's fine. But this is the point, right?

I then think I've been up for about 10 to 7 to 10 minutes, right? Those three bells would tell me that I was up at 2.50 again. And what does it mean? I don't know. Someone said that your body heals during the night. And when it gets to certain places it can't heal, it wakes up. Okay I don't know. Someone said that your body heals during the night and when it gets to certain places it can't heal,

it wakes up. Okay, don't, Tom, don't say stuff like this. Why don't someone tell me that?

I'm like, fuck, sorry, Jesus. Who told you that? Another friend of mine who isn't as decent as you.

And do they use crystals and stuff like that? Yeah, they are quite left thinking and all that sort of stuff.

So this is a thing. What did you, let me just say, did you share the heart attack feeling with anyone in the family? I mentioned it. I said to Lisa, I've got a pain in my chest. I shouldn't have done that because I can't tell you the look on her face. She just looked at me. Because my dad died of a heart attack, right? So she just freaked out.

I thought, what the fuck have I... You know, I think I need to verify for definite what the situation is before I... Did she genuinely worry? No, only for a second. I saw her face just get... I can't You know, you must have seen it in Kat's face where, for a second,

she just looks horrified. I hated that look. I don't want to give her that look on her face. This is me going out on a limb here and I could end up... Did you in a second when you felt that in your heart and you're like, I'm having a heart attack kind of vibe, right? Did you try and make them deal with your maker or someone just saying, you know what, that's it now. No pizza, no booze, no fried shitty food. If I'm fucking, this is like, if I live through this pain, if I come out of

this the other end, I'm going to be a new person. Yeah. I started thinking about, I started thinking about that.

I started thinking about how I'm going to be with the kids. So I think about how more appreciative I'm going to be of Lisa.

All sorts of shit, man. So bad. So, so, you're just making your deal. It's like,

please just let me get through this please please you george bailey the shit out of that fucking moment yeah but i i had a bit not an argument but another thing i did was we were doing uh i was doing a bit of filming and i had to lift something and it just came out of my hand my grip strength wasn't strong enough and it ripped some skin off my palm and it started like just bleeding and like there's a little cut on there anyway the way it healed just because it's on my palm because you keep using it it just is getting more and more sore every day right

and then i managed to convince myself that it was infected and i i started to i i honestly started to there's part of me that believed that i might have to lose my hand. Like, I know that sounds, oh my God. So one night, one night, we're like, listen, by the way, as I'm saying this to you, I know it's mad, right? And in the moment, I knew it was mad. And I don't fully believe I'm going to have to,

I don't believe I'm about, but I managed to convince myself that when I press on on it that type of pain is a sign of an infection and this is going to lead to some sort of I just convinced myself I convinced myself that's okay so then I go to Lisa it's a very different sort of conversation I said to Lisa do you think I should go to walk the walk-in she goes for what and I go for this on my hand she goes what that cut that tiny little

and I go it feels infected and honestly mate it's a very different look it's just the look of contempt on her face of like

how pathetic is this guy so I've had to try and figure out a way of doing it mate did you do anything about the cut

no I left it I left it I left it because it felt too insane for you anyway as a massive Star Wars fan as if you got

one of those Luke Skywalker hands I don't know what you're trying to relate to me like that no no no

I'm just saying that's one thing I remember his hand cut off by his father he had that fucking sick hand yeah yeah

that'd be cool I think of all the people that I know that are amputees or would need prosthetics or whatever can. Yeah, that'd be cool. I think of all the people that I know that are amputees or would need prosthetics or whatever, and I've never seen them have a little skull walker hand,

I think they'd be delighted if they just decided to develop the prototype for me, alright? It would be so sick if when I lost my hand, I was able to get a hand that currently doesn't exist with our technology. You're absolutely right. You know, when I was scaffolding, right, I got metal to get a hand that currently doesn't exist with our technology. You're absolutely right. You know, when I was scaffolding, I got metal splinters that went through my

thumb and that bit of my head. How painful? Very painful. And I was working, I was again, I was sort of early 20s and I was, like someone said, oh, they can go septic metal splinters. And I freaked out massively. And I went to the hospital near Waterloo. I had left work early and said, I massively and I went to the hospital

near Waterloo I'd left work and they said I've got to go to the hospital and get this sorted to say that I know those guys could never look me

in the eye again it was so embarrassing I was so like I freaked out so much that I'd lose that part of my hand or I'd get fucking sepsis

or some shit like that I get it man I get it I get it bro the fucking hardship being a like that. I get it, man. I get it. I get it, bro. The fucking hardship being a hypochondriac. Have you read Johnny Vegas's book?

No, no, no, no, no. So I listened to the audio book and there's a bit where like... Did Johnny do the audio book? Yeah, he did. He did.

Oh, man, that's amazing to talk to Johnny. So midway through the book, he talks about the fact that he's got this voice inside his head, right? Like, he's constantly catastrophizing his conditions and it's like

you know you listen to when you listen to something that you can really relate to so he had it like really like this proper voice and um i was i was on my way back from a gig and i had the audio book on in my car and he gets kevin eldon to do the voice of the voice in his head oh wow so like there's a bit where he goes, and so I felt this lump in my foot and I wondered what it was. And then his voice said, you're going to die.

And like, it was like, I nearly swerved off the road, bro. Like, it fucking terrified the shit out of me. You know, talking about audiobooks, she's got an incredible one. Who? Seth Rogen. Really? It's so good. It's like the Curb Your Enthusiasm about audiobooks, she's got an incredible one. Who? Seth Rogen. Really?

It's so good. It's like the Curb Your Enthusiasm of audiobooks. Does he read it? He reads some of it, yeah, but he's got other actors coming in like that, basically, doing other parts of people in his life.

Fucking incredible. I listen to the Andre Agassi audiobook, which is a great autobiography, but they got somebody else to read it. I mean, it's just not the same, is it? I like Andre. I thought he's actually got quite

a nice voice as well. Exactly. I don't know why I didn't do it, but the book is amazing.

Well worth a spin. Really? Yeah. Anyway, I never struck me. You'd be a

tennis nut. I'm not a tennis nut, but some, do you know what? I earnestly answered that

question before realizing that you're fucking putting a fucking knee to my dick. I'm so happy you responded in that way. I didn't know you were a tennis nut. I'm not a tennis nut! There's a sort of air of you

that you're calling. Oh, shut up. Pushed your sliding glasses up your... I've not got sliding glasses. I've got the same glasses you have. You have actually, I'm not matching glasses today.

Anyway, long story short with regards to the move, Lisa put me to bed. What? She told me that I was so tired and I was overreacting

to so many things that it was time for me to go to bed. What time is this? Half nine, ten o'clock, something like that. Oh my God.

And then could you just hear Theo sort of toiling into the night? Yeah. Theo and Lisa lifting beds up four flights of stairs. Lisa and the three boys

just having a great old time. No, just have to move the house while you're slumbering away. No, we've done most of it. We've done most of it. Come on,

don't make me out like that. Do you think father will be coming down for tea? Not tonight. Not tonight. Your father's very tired. He't make me out like that. Don't make me out like that. Do you think father will be coming down for tea? Not tonight. Not tonight. Your father's very tired. He's taken to his bed poorly. He's been slaving away so that he can provide for you and yours.

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Hit it up. Evening, evening slash this is from Worry Warthog. Wow. Wow. Makes me think this is going to be quite a deep, deep message. Evening slash morning to all at Wolf and Owl HQ. Thank you, Swan, for selecting my email. I really need the wonderful wisdom of the furry and feathered friends this evening.

I've just got out of a meeting. Yes, it's past 10pm in the UK, don't ask. With a large number of colleagues I admire and respect. What's going on? What's going on? He's being comfy for the emails. I just got out of a meeting. Yes, it's past 10pm in the UK, don't ask.

With a large number of colleagues I admire and respect very much. I had to give a presentation. And for some inexplicable reason, I felt really nervous and was unable to speak coherently. I stuttered and stumbled over my words and repeated myself. It was extremely, extremely embarrassing. As a child I was painfully shy and it took me years to speak in front of people without turning red and freezing. I worked hard to get over it, even taking the drastic step of taking acting classes at the poor school to force myself into a state of confidence. If I can't be confident, surely I can learn to pretend to be confident. I'm now outwardly usually a confident person and presentations aren't easy, but I can

usually fake my way through it. But today is like I was a child again and I'm spending my evening agonising about how unprofessional I must have looked and how much respect I must have lost. Right now, I honestly don't feel that I deserve the job I have. Do you ever ruminate over embarrassing moments? How do you stop yourself from replaying these moments? Thanks, Worry Warthog. Tom Davis. moments. Thanks, Worry Warthog. Tom Davis. Worry Warthog, it would be amiss of me to say that nearly every day of my life, I didn't replay every embarrassing moment or every moment I thought I wasn't, I could have done something better, or whether I'd let myself down, or I wasn't probably capable of the job that I was doing or capable of sometimes

being the person that I think I should be I think that that's just human society I think most people I think actually I think it's the healthiest way to be as a person because I think you're always striving then to to be better I think I think faux confidence is actually quite for me anyway faux confidence is quite a negative thing because I think it can actually be quite harmful to yourself. And in that, I mean, I don't mean like, I think confidence when it comes to a place of pushing your adrenaline to go through something and actual sort of confidence, as in like feeling confident in the scenario

that you're putting yourself in, that's actually quite a healthy thing. But if you're actually going, I hate this, I really hate this, I hate this, throughout it, just try to put a smile on your face and pretending you've got something more solid than you actually have can be quite unhealthy. I think

for me, I'm still quite a shy person. I don't get time doing that. Sitting here, I think chatting with Ramesh, who looks like he's got a fly in his studio, his eyes are flipping about all the place, I think chatting with Romesh, who looks like he's got a fly in his studio, his eyes are flipping about all the place, I think can make people think,

because me and Romesh are sitting during the podcast, this is a very safe space and I feel very chilled. I think even over the last two or three days, I've had a few moments with people who have come over, expecting me to be that person. I'm first meeting them. I'm not, I think yeah so I don't think there's anything wrong with being shy or cautious I think the big thing to

say of everything with the situation you found yourself in today is it's nowhere near as bad as you probably think it is I think the fact of the matter is that every day that I've ever spent filming or every gig I've ever done or any one of these podcasts I've ever done, at the end of the matter is that I think every day that I've ever spent filming or every gig I've ever done, and any one of these podcasts I've ever done at the end of it,

I usually sit and think I could have done that better, or I was shit when she was brilliant or so-and-so was, you know, better than I was. And it all comes out in the wash and it's all all right. And it's usually your own sense of that you, you, you, you know, maybe you just think, maybe you just got very high standards, but don't beat yourself up. You sound like a brilliant,

amazing person. And I salute you for going through poor school. I salute you for kids continuing to develop as a human being because you've come a long way, but you're not out of the mountain yet.

Keep climbing because you've got a long way to go. You're going to regret using that later on. I would say, Worry Warhog, thank you so much for your email. I think the problem is twofold here. Number one problem is that you're embarrassment about public speaking.

And the second one is about ruminating on how you did. I would agree with Tom. Well, Tom and I have this in common. It's one of the things that sort of made us or brought us together as mates is that every time we do something, we think we were absolutely shit at it. And like the number of times we've talked about this in the past,

the number of times I've come out of a record or come out of filming or got in touch with Tom after something and said, I was just utter shit. Well, we finished the podcast and I text Tom going, you were so funny on that. And I was absolutely dreadful. Can we put it out? You know, it happens all the time. Um, and there is part of me that thinks that's part of the process of, of, of trying to be good at what you do. And there's part of me that thinks you can't, it's not really healthy to agonize in that way um there's a couple of things first of all

it's after 10 o'clock you've had a late meeting so you're going to be tired you're going to lose perspective you you often lose perspective when you're tired and because it's something that sort of troubled you in the past you're going to have a hangover of that of as soon as you start to go that way you think it's going to be as bad as you sort of fear it is. It won't have been. It would have been totally fine. And you need to just put this to bed. Do you know what I mean? Let's just catastrophize for a moment that it was absolutely the worst and it was embarrassing.

So what? So what? You do it again and you do it better. Or you think about what you did wrong and try and assess that. None of these things would make a break, man. Do you know what I mean? It's just,

it is what it is. It didn't go anywhere near as badly as you thought it did and even if it did, who gives a shit? Do you know what I mean? We move on.

So, worry warthog, I understand why you worry because I'm giving you advice that I need to take myself. Draw a line under it. Tomorrow's a new day. You're doing great.

All right? I mean, also also just to shout out imagine how Oli Gunn-Solskjaer feels right now imagine imagine just put yourself

in his shoes he's still got a job this morning and yeah so if you don't know who he is yeah

it's worth just having a look into that worth having a look into that yeah he's the Man United manager in Liverpool beat them 5-0 yesterday.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, Tom didn't want to say those words, so it was too much effort for him to say that. So if you could just look it up on his behalf, that would be great.

Next email is from Anon. Anon. Dear Rom and Tom. By the way, just before we get emails in, I know that this person's name isn't Anon. It's Anon. Anonymous. So, dear Rom and Tom. That was a bit shitty of me, wasn't it?

Yeah, it was very harsh. Sort of harsh, wasn't it? Yeah. Should we get JT to tell that? Or should we leave that in just to teach me a lesson about being you've got a spiky little side yeah yeah I think it's good for people to know that

I've been in your seven million pound house okay Tom that's not fair this wing this wing is seven million pounds

dear Dom and Tom I'm a 30 year old Indian female I just recently moved down to London I work in software engineering I'm quite senior within my field, traditionally a very male-dominated industry.

Ever since I've moved, I've started to experience quite a few instances of racism slash sexism. For example, broadband engineers are assuming I'll not be able to understand how fiber cabling works, and I'll speak to my male partner. I was recently at a social mix, and someone refused to tell me what their job was, as I probably wouldn't be able to understand. Even a colleague of mine made a passing comment that these Indians can be quite thick. I've always been quite vocal and

call people out on these instances but my partner suggested maybe giving a lower profile and knowing when to pick your battles. I'm quite conflicted as to what to do as I don't think racism, sexism should be tolerated at any level and feel like given the lack of women in my field I'm duty bound to call out this behavior so it doesn't become a norm. What are your thoughts? I'm also wondering whether either of you have dealt with racism and sexism in and out of the workplace, and if so, how have you coped? Big fan of the podcast, everybody cheers me up, keep up the good work. Cheers.

A-non. Anonymous, anonymous, anonymous. Number one, I think you should be reporting all that behaviour and doing it for not just yourself, but for the people that follow you into the industry in which you're working, because I think it's important that that is done.

And I think the only way that we can push social change is doing that thing. I think there's stuff that I wouldn't want to talk into, because it would be wrong of me to sort of chat in any great depth about that, because it's harmful for people. But yeah, I mean, I think as someone who owns a company as someone who who's a manager at some company over the years that we've done that we've had to deal with with all of the issues that you're talking about and you know and in the way that we've dealt them we've been firm and we've we've made made sure that we've dealt with them and and let it be known that that that sort of behavior in society and in any workplace

isn't needed and is, for me anyway, I think it's disgusting. I think that, you know, I think if you're made to feel anything but part of the team or anything to, you know, less than, you know, if you work with a lot of men, one of the guys, I think number one, it's a really short-sighted

dickhead view that they've got and I think, you know, again, I don't want to stereotype, but I can imagine the sort of men that you're talking about, every one of them probably lacks any real social sort of skills outside this sort of industry that they work in where they feel they have some sort of power. And the worst thing about having power is that there's a constant threat

of change and your power would become less than it is at the moment. And I think that's a big worry, I think, that I see throughout society at the moment. I think some people question change constantly because it means that, number one, they've got to look at themselves, but number two, they've potentially got to lose a stranglehold on something that they hold

probably too dear and I think most decent members of society are sort of all for change and we put our hands up

and you want to walk side by side with anyone who feels sort of alienated or sort of pushed to the side or bullied

or whatever and I think hopefully you can get this sorted out. But I would say go to the powers that be because if it's a big company

in which it's held, it would be, they have to do something about it. And if they look another way, then go higher and higher and make sure that, you know, you don't just suffer in silence

because it's not fair on you. Romesh. Great advice from Tommy D, the wolf. I think, Anonymous, it's quite a difficult situation because on the one hand,

sexism and racism is absolutely disgusting and so you do want to challenge it. And on the other hand, I understand where your partner's coming from because they sort of think they don't want you to be seen as difficult.

And I know that there are instances where people have seen sexism, people have seen sexism people have seen racism people have seen things like this and they decided the easy option is to just not say anything and just kind of uh not suffer in silence and such but just they don't want to rock the boat the thing is is that there are lots of instances where people think that certain ways of talking are appropriate and they think it's all right to talk in a certain way and those people need to be educated and the only way that they can be educated is by picking them up on these things and it might not even be uh it might not even be you having to escalate a complaint although that might be the case but it could be just you challenging

it you know you going i don't think you should talk like that. Now, like Tom, Tom is somebody that I know. I'm not going to give specific examples, but Tom is somebody I know that if he sees, I know that in the past he's seen somebody being racist or somebody's been racist in conversation to him and Tom's challenged it. And that's what we should all be doing. We should all be challenging when people use offensive language, when people are racist, when people are sexist,

when people are homophobic, we should be challenging people so that that drops out of people's sphere of what they think is acceptable things to say. And so as difficult as it feels, I do think the right thing is to be challenging it. I do think that's the right thing to be challenging it. Whether that's not going to have any repercussions, I can't, you know, there's no way of guaranteeing that because the truth of the matter is, is

if you are the sort of person that calls these things out, you will often be labelled or you can sometimes be labelled a troublemaker or difficult. But that doesn't mean it's the wrong thing to do. And I'm going to be honest with you i've encountered racism in the past and i've had to deal with racism and sometimes i've called it out and sometimes i haven't i've always regretted it when i haven't and i've never regretted it when i have so you know i i can't tell you what to do full stop black and white but i think it is we all have a responsibility to challenge those sort of thing. So there you go. I hope that helps Anonymous, please. Let us know how it goes Tom our next email is from Sam. Okay. Yeah, and I'm gonna read the email and then I'm going to

Go through what Sam is referring to in this email and I'd like to get your take on that, okay? Okay. Here we go. I found the attached image on Reddit recently and it immediately reminded me of Tom's response to nearly every email on the pod. So either he's written it himself or it's a giant fraud. I think they're joking here. The only two possible explanations.

Not looking for a response or anything similar. Just wanted to return a smile for all the laughs you've given fans of the pod. Thank you very much. So the thing that they've sent us, Tom. Yeah. I'm going to share it with you. Okay, let me just see if I can share this with you now. Can you see it?

Yeah, I can see it. It's a generator. So basically, you've got four columns. So people listening, you've got four columns, right? And in each column is a word or a part of a phrase and you can pick one from each column and it makes a sentence that essentially sounds like tom davis um i'll give you i'll give an example instead of a wolf they've used a hippo i know well it's not based on you tom this is coincidence yeah yeah so here. Champ, your soul reigns magic and that's a fact.

Wow. I'll just pick that randomly. Superstar, your presence here just shimmers. Snuggle bear. Wow.

Know this. What you got going on gets the party hopping, you hidden gem. I mean, this is experts agree that brain of yours is a

rainbow factory. High five. Nice. You know what? To be fair, this is... Experts agree, that brain of yours is a rainbow factory. High five. That is... You know what? To be fair, this is kind of cool if you haven't got... I was born with a gift to do this without even thinking about it. For sure. Okay, listen up.

The mere idea of you is a rainbow factory. Now let's dance. Okay, listen up. That sparkle in your eye is the next big thing. Would I lie? You know what? I like this,

man. I like this a lot. You know what? This should be given to every dickhead who doesn't know how to be nice.

Yeah, there's 105,000 possible combinations of this. You know what? This is slightly gutting because this is,

you know, when people have been asking me to write a book, we could have just added all these up together and fucking sell this. You know what? This is slightly gutting because this is, you know, when people have been asking me to write a book. Yeah. We could have just added all these up together

and fucking sell this with our faces on the front. Excuse me, but that saucy personality is a national treasure for reals. Yeah,

that one's my worst one so far. News alert. That actually sounds like you in real life flirting. News alert. The essential you roars like a lion, you hidden gem. Ace, your DNA raises, breeds miracles.

That's the science. In my opinion, that saucy personality shows mad skills. You feel me? Wow. So you feel me and the mic drop and the sort of that, yeah, can I get an A what I'm in yeah that

that end column's quite tricky isn't it to get right they sometimes fall apart experts agree every thought you have is paying off big time

according to CNN yeah that's correct hear ye hear ye your soul reigns magic so treat yourself tiger everything you do your soul reigns magic so treat yourself Tiger

everything you do raises the roof you hidden gem it's the end bit that I find quite tricky yeah yeah really yeah yeah self

your DNA gets I'll keep doing the same ones over and over again superstar your personal style is paying off big time and that's a fact.

That's quite Tommy, isn't it? Girl, the essential you rules like a lion. Period. Not sure about that one. It's a bit American, this, isn't it?

That's the problem. You know what, though? That's one thing I think about the Americans, yeah. What? It's just their sense of fucking positive vibes for the most part.

News alert! Your presence here gets the party hopping. Would I lie? That sounds like the sort of thing you'd say before one of your Hip Hop Saves Your Life parties. Speaking of which, we've got one of those happening on Saturday night. Lafayette tickets at www.hiphopstaymylife.co.uk.

Are you still sending tickets to it? Yeah, we've almost sold out. Okay, so don't start. Don't start getting all... No, no, no, I'm sorry, man. Sick, sick. This is a fucking cool night. Big night, man.

You coming? No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm chubbier. I had a bit of a thing. My costume arrived today. It don't fit, so... What is your costume? I'm not going to...

It's a surprise for the night do you think there's a cross pollination between hip hop sage and this and wolf and owl

yeah I don't think so do you well I hope that some people listen to both they're both great shows yeah we do get emails

about hip hop sage my life I've never really been one for Halloween I've got to say it's not one of my favourite holidays what is one of your

boom my top five okay what are your top five holidays above Halloween then mate Christmas yeah St Patrick's Day Easter

probably Thanksgiving okay I mean I guess what I should have asked you is name five holidays that aren't Halloween no but Halloween just I'm just Halloween and Firework night can

suck my balls. Why? I'm not a fan. I used to be more into it. I just feel like it's become such a big thing now.

Firework night is practically dead, bro. It's not become a big thing. What are you talking about? Firework night is

not dead enough, mate. You've got, when you've got, I'll tell you what, mate, come sit at my house, have breakfast with me,

and we'll talk about firework night once you've got a dog it's a whole different fuck it it's a game changer bro okay we'll have some of you

faking I'll put it in the sandwich and look you dead in the eye and go how's fucking firework night now and you'll go fucking hell my wit's ends

listen a dog being scared of fireworks is not fireworks night's fault is it it's just how it fucking happens how bad is it with a dog on fireworks night they get really my dog gets pretty anxious just how it fucking happens. How bad is it with a dog on fireworks night?

They get really, my dog gets pretty anxious, pretty scared. I'll tell you what it is, it's, I actually think, look, get your local rugby club,

your local park, have a big, lovely fucking fireworks, but I know there's a lovely couple near where you live, right? I've been to them.

I've watched in awe as fucking fireworks sail into the sky and fucking people scream and screech. I have no problem with them. It's when losers have them in their back garden with no consideration for kids

and for fucking families who aren't involved in it. And that's what I haven't got any time for. Okay. Probably where you've moved now, so I'm assuming it's probably to quite a sort of salubrious sort of

area you will be inundated with fucking fireworks I suppose I'm like literally two minutes from where I was living before so I can't imagine

I'm going to be that surprised are you really yeah can you see your old house from your new house no that would be fucking insane

wouldn't it I don't know if you've moved to like a big hill or something you could look down at it no well just a

big hill looking down on the whole of the town of crawley speaking of which i believe that crawley's endeavoring to become a city

oh really you know what i i would have a bet you know i reckon by the time you're fucking pushing in your chips mate i

reckon there'll be a fucking statue of you in Crawley. What is pushing in my chips, mate? Like, fucking meeting your maker and shit. By the time I die, is that what you're saying? Yeah, yeah, I think there'll be a fucking statue of you. And let me tell you something, I will promise you this. If you are to pass before me,

I shall go to everyone in Crawley and I will put in fucking what money's needed that we can't make up through donations to get a statue of you in the centre in Crawley and I would put in fucking what money's needed that we can't make up through donations to get a statue of you in the centre of Crawley. Well thank you so much for suggesting that there may be a shortfall. No, I'm just

saying, just in case, I don't know No thank you, let me tell you this when you die and they ask for donations of the statue I will cover whatever they get, whatever the difference is between how much they raise for donations of the statue I will cover whatever they get, whatever the difference is between how much they raise and how much the statue would actually cost because obviously they're not going to raise a full amount

that's basically what you said in my head I want it to be bigger than life size but obviously let me be absolutely crystal clear if I die before you I do not want

a statue of me in Crawley so let me just get that smack bang I think it would be you know I'm saying you know those little ones

of Paddington Bear you get around London I'd say one of those little ones that we could get even if it's one of those by Crawley by Crawley

Down Station they don't put statues up for for comedians that come from the town okay as sweet as eric more comes a fucking legend all right you are in crawley i'm not mate i told you about that somebody got i'll tell you but i think it was like uh somebody told me a gary delaney i've told you this story at Gary Delaney gig it was a Gary Delaney gig and he said

what's the worst thing about Crawley and somebody said Romesh Ranganathan oh no that's not true there's so many shit things about Crawley that you're better than

I'd say you're probably one of the top five things about Crawley thanks thanks thanks very much I speak for you know I don't live in Crawley

and I probably never will but I know I've got family in Sussex. We're very proud to be from the same county as you. Yeah, for sure. What if we do one down by the seafront in Brighton, then? There's a sort of meet in the middle type thing. No, thank you.

No, thank you. It'd be so funny if you ended up in a little town like Seaford, where you didn't even have anything to do. A little Paddington Fair to expect that of you in one of your blazers and board shorts anyway I digress

yeah right would you like would you like to it's about that time Tom could you please do us the honour

of taking us out of, I would say, quite a mixed bag of an episode. It's been up and down.

Yeah, it's been. Okay, go on. Two brothers who were instrumental in inventing how the world

looks and feels and everything and how human beings are put together and how clothes are shaped and how electricity fizzes.

Sat one day on the top of a big mountain and looked down upon the world in which they created the colourful vibrancy of cities and people just laughing and joshing together. And one of them turned to the other one and said, yo, brother. And he's like, yes, my friend. He said, like, it's strange, isn't it,

how once we look upon this vibrant, beautiful landscape in which we have developed, how people seem to take so much care of other things, but less not enough care of themselves. He said, whatever do you mean, my friend, my brother, sir? And he says, listen, every night when people go to bed, they'll make sure to recharge their phone, above the sense of recharging their mind. They'll recharge that phone for the day,

but never give themselves the time to recharge their body. The other guy looks at the other guy and says, you are the most profound person I've ever met. If we could send somehow a message out to the world where people would listen and take that a little bit kind, a bit more kind to their mind and kind to their body,

we should do it. How should we do this? Maybe through a podcast. A wolf in hell. That message should do it. How should we do this? Maybe through a podcast, a wolf in hell. That message should run brightly. Recharge yourselves above the electronic devices that you look upon

and listen upon. Obviously, it's important to recharge them because otherwise you won't be able to listen to the podcast. But know this, your mind is your own phone, which you take approximately two million photos a second with

always be yourself you know what I'm not going to lie that's the first one I've done after four points of Guinness oh god

that was so funny right Tom yeah it's been an absolute pleasure my G thank you brother guys we'll catch you

on the flip side yeah Wolf and Owlers Owl and Wolfers thank you so much and Ron you know what would be really cool

for all our listeners? Go on. For you to take off all of your clothes and just run around your new big house naked. Well, after I finish this recording?

Yeah. Sure, okay, I can do that, no problem. Guys, take it easy, one love,

peace out. Yeah, baby. JT, what do you want to tune for this? Yeah, maybe one love from Blue. That'd be kind of cool. JT, can you play One Love by Blue?

Here we go. Peace out from the Wolf and Owl. Shoot, baby. One love is all we need. For the city streets, one love For the hip-hop beats, one love Oh, I do believe One love is all we need If you have a problem, opinion, feedback or anything at all, please email us at wolfalpod at gmail.com That's wolfalpod at gmail.com. That's wolfalpod at gmail.com.

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