Wolf and Owl - Episode 8

Episode Date: January 20, 2021

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wear the wolf and owler that ain't just a mistake that's an awful howler both of them are known to pull up at your shows have the crowd witnessing the murder like they rode in with a gang of crows fuck their censorship let them see the whole thing Welcome impressive in it the death bringing his head spinning just kidding every word in his songs about two grown men dressed up as a bird and a dog welcome to the wolf for now podcast episode eight uh just before we started recording tom um tom made a sort of a snidey little comment about me doing a bit of prep uh basically i don't know if people have noticed from from listening but normally when we're doing the emails i sort of look at the inbox on my screen yeah while i while i'm sort of doing the podcast which is which is the which is less than the bare minimum you should be doing so today i've

actually printed some shit out so bad for the environment it is bad for the environment but we recycle in this house oh really really i'll tell you what i'll tell you what i do do uh which is which is bad you know like say i've got one of those um this sounds very show-offy now but i've got one of those nespresso you know the pod machines right yeah so those pods are you know those pods are basically you might as well you might as well fucking have child slaves if you use those because like they go straight they go straight into the bin, right? So then I was looking into it, because I think there was some article in the newspaper

about how you're worse than the devil if you have these coffee machines. And there's this company that does recyclable pods, right? I've heard of these people. Yeah, so you send them back, and then they... I don't know why I'm explaining how recycling works, but yeah, you send them back to them, right? So I started buying these pods

and then I put them in the bin. I mean, it's so fucking stupid. It's willfully. Mate, why don't you just get a proper espresso machine? Like one that you... You're talking about beans to cup? No, no, no. I don't have beans, but I get the ground stuff.

I put it in like a barista does. Froth up my milk and all that. Do you do the little tap-tap, the tappy thing? No, no, no, no. I don't have beans, but I get the ground stuff. I put it in like a barista does. Froth up my milk and all that. Do you do the little, the tap, tap, the tappy thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. With the little, you have to level off the... Yeah, you tap it down. Also, you've sometimes got a little pusher that you put into it, so it's all flat.

Yeah, I do that. So how long, do you do that every day? Yeah. How long are we talking about from decision to make coffee to having a coffee in your hand? No time at all, man. It's so quick. Okay, okay.

There's such a push. Mate, all right. I'm asking genuinely. I'm asking genuinely. Yeah, and the action is this. I go to the coffee machine, right? I pull and twist. I pull out there.

So that is time, isn't it? That's time. Yeah, all right. Okay, Mr. Pedantic. No, but what I'm saying is, no, but the reason I'm asking. No, what you've done, you've got a bee in your knickers, right?

You've got a bee in your panties and you're running around town because I'm... What's the matter? What's the matter? Was knickers not insulting enough when you followed up with panties? No, right.

You wanted to hammer it home. Go on. No, what it is, right, is you know that here i am probably more ecologically sound than you are i'm doing my bit right no no hold on before you carry on i just want to clarify this right because we were talking about this earlier there's a couple of people that well there's one particular we looked on the itunes whatever not the itunes the apple podcast thing right yeah and somebody said, great listen,

if you can get past Romesh, Bully and Tom, right? Yeah. So now we have another incident where, or another example where I'm getting the fucking, I'm getting the wordies from you now, the word lurgy, where I can't think of the right words. The word lurgy. The word, the wordies.

I've got the wobbles. Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is this is not, I wasn't trying to bully you. Now, immediately, you won't know this, listeners, but Tom put his hand, he put both his hands up like I was trying to assault him, right? Immediately, he's got himself into defensive position, right? The reason I said to you, what does no time at all is not a good

enough answer okay all right it's because the reason no no hold on the reason i'm asking that is because the pod machine is quick right yeah so what i'm trying to ascertain is is your bean to cup or whatever it is your grounds to cup is it faster or slower than the pod machine that's all i'm trying to get at so when. So when you say no time at all, do you understand how that isn't useful as an answer? I didn't know that we were doing a barometer of time here and I didn't know that you were talking about some... What is a barometer of time?

What? What's wrong with that? Do you know what a barometer of time is called? A clock. I didn't know that you were going to get all big up your chest and all this about this, right? Okay. And that you were going to get all fiery.

The only way of settling this is that we do a race. Okay, we're not going to do that now, are we? No, no. But at some point, we'll do a race this week. Right? Okay, so how about this?

Why don't we do it on Instagram? Yeah, we'll do it on Instagram. Okay, we're do it on instagram okay we're doing it live wednesday so the day this podcast comes out yeah that evening tom and i where are we going to start what time oh no no no what i mean is where are you going to be like if you're like if if i'm in the kitchen and you're having a turnout and we're going from there then that's not no i think we start our kitchen at our kitchen doors. We start at kitchen doors. Okay, fine.

Okay. All right. And then we go for it. All right, fine. And you can't have all your stuff laid out. I know what you're like. There's no stuff to lay out. There's a machine and there's a pod.

Yeah, but don't have the pod just by the machine. That's where I keep the pods. So what do you want me to do? Do you want me to specifically move the pod somewhere else? Where do you keep your coffee? Above the coffee machine. Okay, so I keep my pods by the pod machine. Okay.

I'm going to have a little bit of training this week. Yeah, I might do a couple of dry runs, actually. Just throw the coffee in the sink. It's a weird one for me this week because I had a very, very vivid dream about you uh this week that i've gone bored a couple of people about well it's a weird one because first of all just straight out the gate and i'm not i'm not it was it sexual in any way not really no no okay because when you know people when people say vivid i think this is a

rule when people said a vivid dream that means we were fucking i think no that's your mind because that does not at all vivid is not a sexual thing right i know what i know that's not what i do know that's not what vivid means i know i know that i get what you're saying what i'm saying though is when something says vivid what that means is the the the the contents of that dream were burned in their retina and normally what that would mean if you said to me you say to me i had a vivid dream that means you recall it instantly which suggests to me we were making the beast of two bucks no no there's no love making all right i woke up just fucking just fucking no not just a real rumpus going on i just i woke up. Fucking then. Just fucking. Just real fucking. No, no. Just a real rumpus going on. I just,

I woke up and it was just very clear in my mind. And I sort of was a bit angry about it. And it sort of, you know. So the dream was that me and you, it was sort of

like massive, like at the time of where we are with COVID. And MTV had sent us both to do coverage of a music festival over in america and i was now looking back at it and thinking about the dream i don't know if it might be the inauguration that we were there for right okay uh we were out there it was very very busy and it was quite a sort of like rapturous crowd it was very sort of. Rapturous? Yeah What does that mean?

Like just raucous fucking love the word for raucous. So why not say raucous? Why make up a word? Rapturous is a word no? No it's not. Really? Rapturous is not a word. By the way this is an unfair one last week right on this

on this fucking podcast you were making more mistakes than I could fucking deal with there's one point what were you talking about? fecal matter and you kept saying feetsal you kept saying feetsal matter

is it not feetsal? no it's fecal right how's it spelt? F-E-C-A-L. That's fecal, isn't it? I mean, what an incredible argument. That's a watertight argument. I'm telling you, it's a hard C.

Yeah, but I, look, for a lot of the time, you know, there's probably three or four words I use a hard C with. Okay. It's what I'm thinking of at the moment, looking at you. I use a hard C with. Okay. It's what I'm thinking of at the moment looking at you.

There was a raucous crowd, right? They're shouting and stuff, right? Yeah. And it gets a little bit, me and you have got to go through the crowd because we've got to introduce some music acts and stuff, right? Okay. And then, like, I'm like, oh, yes,

give it a bit, like, intimidating going through them. And you basically hired a guy who was taller than me called Sebastian, right? And he was this massive guy. And he had, like, long, like, blonde dreadlocks. And you got on his shoulders. And you rode him through the crowd like a big lion. And people were grabbing me.

And you were sort of, like, holding onto his head and sort of stroking his head as you walked through. And you were just getting further and further away from me. Did I say anything to you, or did I just get on Sebastian's shoulders and go off? No, you said, oh, this is Sebastian. He's like my bodyguard. I've hired a bodyguard. And I made a joke.

And I don't know whether it was because of… What was the joke? I made a joke about him being tall. And you said, actually actually this is what a dream is very real you went why would you say such a thing i was like i was only joking because usually people say that to me yeah and then you were like and then you got on his back and you're on his shoulders so did you wake up angry with me i woke up because all people were pouring at me and like fucking like you know sort of grabbing me and shouting at me and you

i don't know i can't i just remember being quite it was quite a, sort of grabbing me and shouting at me. Why? I don't know. I can't really, I just remember it being quite, it was quite a, like, sort of, like, like I say, it was raucous, but it was also, like, a real under, sort of, feeling of, like, quite a lot of aggression at this place as well. So that's why I'm thinking it might have been the inauguration. What do you think, what do you think that dream meant? Because I've got an idea.

Well, this is the thing, I'm not a big one for knowing what dreams mean. I know the one I mean that to me feels quite route one as is in keeping with you but you know in terms of like

what do you mean as is in keeping with you you know by the way I don't usually pick you up about your fucking

habits you're sitting there like you think you're Freud or something like that you cup your chin as you're about to say there

I haven't seen you all the years I've known you've never seen you cup your chin like that you cut your chin as you're about to say this i haven't seen you all the years i've known you i've never seen you cut your chin like that sort of stroking your beard in an elegant way you can't you can't even insult me without being complimentary can you you show stroking your bloody chin in an elegant and quite attractive way um no but do you not think that do you not think it's like it's your sebastian represents sort of your insecurities about our friendship he's taller than you he's got long hair yeah and then i and then i ignore you to get on sebastian's shoulders the thing about you is this is where you fall down a lot of the time as a human being is you look at things in a very plain and simple way right okay and any dream scientist

will tell you right that dreams seldom are why are you doing a rectangle with your fingers that's that's a that's a worldwide why are you doing a va why are you doing a var signal we're talking about dream interpretation what do you want me to do this well i don't want you to do anything i just want you to just assume that I know what you mean about dreams. Right. So a lot of the time when it comes to dreams, mate, and any dream scientist will tell you this, right, that dreams are oft seldom, sorry, what they say on the tin.

A lot of the time when it comes to dreams, you're talking about something completely different. The one where your teeth fall out, what do you think that's about? Oh, I should go to the dentist. No, it's a feeling of loss okay so you gotta be yeah so yeah okay but i haven't interpreted literally if i was interpreting it literally i'll be saying to you i think you're worried about a guy called sebastian what i'm saying is you're worried about our friendship is what i'm saying so i am actually interpreting it in that way he's he's taller than you.

Yeah. So that's the thing that you've got for me. And he's got hair. He's got long hair. And his name's Sebastian, which suggests that's a class thing. Do you know what I mean? That's an insecurity about social standing there. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah. That's what I'm taking from that. It was also... Did you wake up upset with me? I woke up, yeah. But the thing that kept on sort of like going, because it was like a movie, the way that you were sort of going through and you were perched up on his shoulders

and just like stroking his hair like that. And you were just like... Well, let me tell you this. If I was sat... Is Sebastian a white guy? Long blonde dreadlocks? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, if I was standing...

If I was on the shoulders of a white guy with dreads, I would not be stroking his hair. I'll tell you that for nothing. Really? Why? Because he probably works in one of those vegan places where you have to weigh the quinoa or whatever. That's probably where you met him, I would have thought.

Lovely big boy. Do you want to come over to America? I've got a gig over there for you have you ever had a thing with Catherine where she's dreamt that you've cheated on her or you've dreamt that she's cheated on you or anything because that's not the classic one isn't it no I've had weird ones

I've had weird ones of her like waking up and she's not there I've had that one which is quite daunting you know like when you have a really vivid dream I had a really really really weird, vivid one about my dog running away, which was really horrible.

I thought he'd been kidnapped. It was like taken. I was running around town after him. It was sort of like trying to find where he'd gone. It was such a fucking dreadful film, that would be. They might have, too. You're slagging it off. I think Jordan Peele made it, didn't he?

Yeah, he did. Yeah, I know. That was the film. It was actually quite good. That's actually a great film. Do you know what I had? Do you remember Moesha? Yeah. The sitcom with Brandy and Fred Ray Starr from Onyx was in it, playing her run-off boyfriend. Anyway, when that show was on, I dreamt... I don't know if it was when that show was on i dreamt maybe i don't know if it's

when that show was on and maybe a bit afters but i dreamt that i was going out with brandy right and that we were in like a quite serious relationship and like very much in love and then when i woke up for a few seconds after waking up i really did did believe, you know, I woke up thinking I was in a relationship with Brandy. And then when I realised the reality that I was in bed with a load of sort of crusty tissues from last night's masturbation, I actually felt sad. That's the worst feeling. I felt like I had the breakup blues or whatever for a little bit. long did you feel like that for i suppose about three months i kind of emailed

her and stuff like that and in the end there was a restraining order you know the scariest fucking thing i don't know if you've ever had this it's fucking horrible sleep paralysis i've heard about this i've never had it god so go on, talk me through it. So you wake up, well, your mind wakes up, but your body's still asleep. Right. So you wake up and you're mentally awake, but you can't move any of your body. And that's what sleep is.

How long does that last for? I had it once and it was like, it felt like it was probably like 20 minutes, but I think it was a matter of seconds or like 25 seconds. I had it literally this week. I woke up and my whole left arm wouldn't move so then i thought i was having a heart attack again i was like but literally i've been sleeping on it and it just fucking cramped up but sleep paralysis is you get it through stress

it's really fucking terrifying do you can you can you talk do you yeah yeah yeah if that's it lie there screaming dear let me just go please what's happening katherine what's happening i can't what a delightful wake up call for her well she sleeps with earplugs because i'm still snoring so no she doesn't yeah yeah yeah oh it's all yeah you know like literally during lockdown i've because like i've oh man what a little heated fucking uh thing that like a little heated blanket you put in the bed with you but my yeah my back's got all tight and i put it under like i've got that and some uh osteopathic uh pillows it's isn't it isn't it incredible right because

like i know you and katherine and i know that you two are very much in love right you're like you know you know there's certain couples that you you see and you think okay they've just settled there and they just don't want to die alone whereas you and Catherine I know you know you two are a great couple right and I and I think Lisa and I are in love but it's so funny as you sort of get on in your relationship how separate your little bed areas become. You know, the division between, as you two settle into what your own personal routines are. Like, for example, I like to listen to shit. Like, you know, listen to podcasts or whatever in bed.

Lisa hates that shit, right? So I now, it's like, you know, you go to bed with little headphones and you go, like, good night, darling, and pop those on. And then I was sort of looking at potential solutions. You can get those, you can get like headbands. What does she do before she goes to bed? She reads for a bit and then she sort of,

she normally sort of masturbates thinking about one of the guys we've got working on the garage. Big Sebastian. We've each got our own routines you know the best thing that i think you can get for your bed go on is there's do you at least have the argument about heat and like who gets hot who gets cold and whatever she is like a fucking like desert lizard that woman, but go on. You can get this thing where you put it at the end of your bed and it's got two pipe things that come up and it pumps hot air or cold air into either side of the bed. Two pipes?

I don't know what you'd call them. There's probably a more scientific name for them, but they're like two funnels, not funnels, two things. Imagine there's a machine like this, right? There's a box. Two things come out of it. Where does the box go? At the bottom of the bed. Okay.

And then you've got two pipes coming up out of it, have you? Yeah, and they go into either half. So your half or Lisa's half. So you can have one half that's hot and one half that's cold. Mate, that sounds fucking great. Have you guys got that? No, no. I haven't cut the ground.

But actually, just saying now. Couple of grand? Yeah. Oh, mate, they're the bee's knees. They're absolutely wonderful bits of technology. But I'm saying now, and I'll throw it out there, and I don't care. If you are listening and you've got any inroads with that, I will definitely take one of those

and we'll mention it in every show. Oh yeah, listen, we will mention the shit out of it. Honestly, please. So hook us up. Also, similarly, while we're on that subject, if anybody knows anywhere

you can get a Tango ice blast machine, I'd fucking love one. Yeah, I'd have one of those as well. That'd be fucking amazing. Tango ice blasts are the fucking bollocks, aren't they? Yeah, yeah. That's one of the things I miss most about going to the cinema.

Me too. Although, the Crawley one, they don't do Tango Ice Blast anymore. They do that. Is it icy? Oh, yeah. It's not the same. I don't like it. I got like a free pass for Crawley Cinema once because I went in and their fucking aircon

was broken. It was the middle of summer. So fucking hot. You must have come out absolutely fucking drenched. I was literally like I'd been in a sauna. Certainly watched you. Just come out. Listen, I've just been in to watch.

No, I can see where you've been, sir. You've been in screen four where the aircon's broken. We've already had the four people in front of you who you rained on for the whole show. Beads of sweat. I sort of love it when something goes wrong at the cinema because it means, you know when you know you're going to get a free ticket to another

show. Do you know what I love? Is the feeling of everyone coming together to complain. I love that so much. You know what the other thing is? There's lots of everyone coming together to complain. Yeah. I love that so much. Well, you know, you know what the other thing is. There's lots of social tests at cinema.

For example, if the film's supposed to start and then the lights go down and the screen goes off, this happens every now and again. And the film just doesn't start. It's who is the first person to get up and go and notify someone outside that the film's not. I would honestly make, we could be sitting there for a day i am not fucking leaving the seat man how many times my my so my social responsibility is so fucking low in that instance it is absolutely rock bottom would you just look at your phone or just talk to lisa or whoever you're with

well actually i was with theo once and we went to watch this kiddies film. And that happened. And I sat there and I said, I don't think it's starting. Somebody's going to have to say something. And I thought to myself, I remember having the thought that I probably should be the one to go

to teach him a lesson about sort of social responsibility and stepping up and doing it. I still didn't. Still didn't go. You know what really fucks me off at the cinema, by the way, while we're talking about this? This came up the other day, right?

It's an ongoing thing I've got with Lisa. So, every now and again, well, at the moment, when you go to the shops, right? If you go to the supermarket to get your essentials and your supermarket's got a coffee shop, Starbucks, Costa, whatever, it's exciting right because i i you think to yourself this is a thing this is a treat you think i can get right yeah so i normally phone lisa and i say

what do you fancy right yeah and i get i'll get i'll get uh like one of these almond milk special hot chocolates right that's that's like my little flex. And then, you know what Lisa gets? What? Green tea. Sorry, man, I'm with you on that. That's a fucking joke. But we've got green tea at home. Yeah.

So now I'm paying what? Ten times what it would cost. Yeah. For them to put the bag in the cup. It's a fucking joke. Usually I would take Lisa's side with stuff. I know you would. I know you would.

But I'm sorry, that's... Let's be absolutely clear on this. Even if we found out she was cheating on me, you'd take her side, wouldn't you? No, yeah. You'd say something like, you know, that level of neglect. I thought we would have turned somewhere else.

No, but that is... That's a bizarre one. Okay, so following on from that that when we go to the cinema yeah this is my order okay i get a popcorn right mixed popcorn okay and a tango ice blast okay that's my normal flex a little bit of blue little bit of red that's how ronnie rolls right i'll see if the kids ask for a bit of tango ice blast i get them a separate one because fuck i really fucking thing that annoys me by the way sharing my kids sharing your tango ice block no no anyone fucking coming to my shit in the cinema think about this because this genuinely we're at

the lifeboats in the titanic right now this is the fucking last dibs mate what you take with you into that fucking cinema is what you're living with in that fucking cinema absolute thank you so much preach on brother it really fucking winds me up whoa what are you listening to this for wait who's talking you know you're driving a 2024 ford escape with available alexa built in so you can change the music oh yeah alexa change station to 99.2 see purchase a 2024 escapeLine all-wheel drive with Tech Pack at 3.49% APR for 72 months with down payment.

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And then you go and pick up and you've just got like a hockey puck sat at the bottom of the cup. Inexperienced people who don't know how to drink a tango ice blast. You've got to pace yourself on that shit. You've got to mix stirring with slow sipping. Then occasionally, when you've invested in six or seven sips, tiny sips and a bit of stirring, you then have earned yourself a big sip, right? You've got to play that drink.

A tango ice blast is a marathon drink. It's a perfect drink for a fucking film. That's the drink that you take in. There's a good chance if you savour a tango ice blast and you fucking respect a tango ice blast and you fucking respect a tango ice blast, there's a good... You should really be walking out of the cinema with a tiny little fucking dregs of it.

Mate, if you play that game correctly, you've got yourself a little treat for as you walk to the car. Or, you know what I respect more than anything, and I would shake anyone's hand post-COVID when I see someone do this, right? This is something I really respect. You get someone to tango ice blasts.

As the credits start to roll, the lights start to come up, you just see them go, do the last bit of tango ice blast, put it down in the cup holder and just get up and walk out. That's so good. We could take it with you and put it in the bin, but just leave it there for the staff to clear up and Tom Davis will applaud you because he, like you, is an inconsiderate piece of shit.

Catherine does a thing where she'll go, do you want anything? And she'll be like, I'll get a bottle of water. Okay, let me just stop you there. Let me just stop you there. That's what I was about to say about Lisa. Oh, really? A bottle of water.

I'm sorry. That is a fucking joke, man. Yeah. Right? Water, cheap as you like, everywhere outside this boundary. Once we get in here, for some reason,

water is the price of saffron. I don't know why. It's just the way the cinema operates. Why the fuck are you waiting to wrap this counter where water is the most expensive it is anywhere in the world to ask for a bottle of it? It is insane. Bring your own water, Lisa.

Yeah. And Catherine, by the way. To be fair, Catherine is from quite poor stock, so she brings her own water to her. She'll bring her own water with her. No, the thing that gets my goat is it's the snacks so yeah your flex is your flex

I'm with you on the tango ice blast if I can get one of those if not I go for the biggest Pepsi I possibly can you know those self the ones where you

help yourself yeah do you go for a little mix up or do you just sometimes I have a little mix up but sometimes I'll go in and I'll drink half

of the big cup like while I'm standing at the machine and then I'll refill it right to the top imagine imagine imagine how the staff feel just watching you do that here we go this guy thinking he's got one over on us just watch it was absolutely disgusting isn't it he does it every week deliberately stands there for ages pretends he's licking at his phone while he slurps down

half a litre and what he's got all he's got a heartburn he's always on that podcast complaining about his his heartburn fucking down half a litre of coke by myself

also not letting anyone else go before him so I'll have that and then I'll have some cheesy nachos. Nice. Do you get jalapenos on? Yeah, of course.

Of course. Yeah. And then I like to mix the nachos with some sweet popcorn as well. What? It's fucking the bollocks, man. What are you talking about? You put some sweet popcorn in your mouth, then get a cheesy nacho with a jalapeno on there,

put that in your mouth, just stir it all up like your mouth's a blender. Get all those tastes, all vibrant tastes in your mouth. It's like street food. Okay, okay, listen. It's incredible. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.

Go on. None of the flavours in your mouth, when you put cheesy nachos and popcorn in, are vibrant. All right? Okay? the flavors in your mouth when you put cheesy nachos and popcorn in a vibrant all right okay you can use a number of descriptors salty sweet hot there's nothing in your mouth that is vibrant all right nor is there anything in there that's nourishing at this stage mate i tell you what that is disgusting disgusting, by the way. Listen, I like a mix-up, but that sounds awful.

I mean, if they do a vegan cheese in there, I would love to see your face, because I know what it would do. It would be your usual daft face. We're sitting there in the cinema together. You're like fucking, you're saving your tango ice blast. I stroke your face just gently, right?

Why? Just to get you ready for the feast you're about to have right okay then i open my hand right flat palm don't want to get and then you just you take the popcorn first and then the cheesy nachos and jalapeno and you just start and then all of a sudden it's like i'm trying to think of the cartoon that happens in or like animated film yeah it's ratatouille when he gives when he gives his cousin the um yeah or his brother your face he gives him the cheese and the grape yeah by the way ratatouille is an incredible film. Oh, what a film. Fucking love that, right? I absolutely love that, right? And also, what's great about Ratatouille is

they don't shy away from making the rats look rank when they're in a group. Yeah. They're making, you know, they're quite cute and sort of people-y. But then when you see them all running through the kitchen, it is truly disgusting. Yeah, it's horrible what have you

what have you been up to Tom? well a lot of my week's been consumed by that dream um uh I've I've do you know

I've got I did the stupidest thing after our last week's competition I by that dream um uh i've i've you know i've got i did the stupidest thing after our last week's competition i caught up with um married at first sight so now i'm on the weekly fit like daily flex so i've got to wait every day 7 30 i actually think you get a real kick out of it i think you should watch it oh actually okay so i need to i need to give you some credit here because first of all i had never watched Married at First Sight and then you talked about it on the podcast last week we have had a lot of messages about it on

social media and then I was saying to a friend of mine about how obsessed you are with Married at First Sight and then they started like losing their shit and saying it is genuinely an incredible show so I am going to watch it. It's amazing. Yeah. Try and catch up with it. it'll be great if you

were neck and neck with me for next week there's a couple of emails about it tom if you if you want to yeah so so first email is from mark furlong and mark furlong says gents really enjoy the podcast um in the latest episode there was some speculation that tom's potential new married at first sight mate would be unfamiliar with Tom's back catalogue. Just to let you know, Merging Successful has had an airing here in Australia, as has King Gary, although still waiting for the Christmas special. I also stumbled across the Governor's movie the other week on Amazon Prime Video. So there are plenty of opportunities for him to get the full Tom experience before you guys arrive for your hypothetical Melbourne show. Cheers, Mark.

Wow, that's good. That's nice to hear that I'm rocking up. It's also nice to hear that we've got Australian listeners. G'day, guys. It's good, isn't it? Hello, how are you doing? That's such a local radio thing to do. I just think, yeah, if you are from anywhere else in the world,

it is cool to... I still get a buzz if I hear someone. So I get a buzz that anyone listens. But someone from another country, especially as far away as Australia, that's a pretty cool thing. That's really cool. Somebody else said,

because the other thing was, is I think it's fair to say a lot of people were on your side with regards to getting in touch with people that they've seen on TV. Is this why you have got a bit of a puss about you this week? I've not got a puss about me. um um so listen i want to know what your take is on this all right so this is from this is from guy etchells. Okay. He says the usual. Oh, here we go.

You'll like this. In this message, I'm using the meaning of a David. So his subject title of this email is Drop You a Davis. Right? Right. In this message, I'm using the meaning of a Davis as sending a meaningful message to reach out to someone you felt connected to through their medium of communication,

be it reality tv or in this case podcast so what you're saying is he's so touched by your what i would describe as sort of desperate and thirsty getting in touch with anyone you see on tv yeah and he's saying he's calling that away the guy from made at first sight was a couple of other people but that was that was a real kinship. That's something I felt there. It's not a kinship. Do you understand? A kinship has to come from both sides.

What you're talking about is, do you know like when you read stories about, oh, Madonna had to get a restraining order on some guy that kept turning up outside out? That's what you're talking about. Yeah, but that's how you look at things. I look at things and think, oh, actually, this is a bit like The Littlest Mermaid. If she hadn't bothered to come out to sea

and get some legs and stuff, she'd never met the prince. So what you've done there is you've taken The Littlest Hobo and you've crossed it with The Little Mermaid. There's no Littlest Mermaid. What's it called? It's called The Little Mermaid. Okay.

Okay. What? Maybe tomorrow I want to settle down. Under the sea. Hold on, hold on. How are you seeing a lot of The Little Mermaid? Sorry, talk me through that again. I got so distracted.

She had to take the risk of coming out of the sea to meet someone, the love of her life. If you don't take those risks, if you don't take those risks if you don't step forward if you don't if you don't swim to the surface out of the where you're drowning not she wasn't obviously really drowning she's a mermaid and mermaids can't drown but if you don't do that you'll never be able to reach a true i understand what you're saying but let me just tell you what the difference is between ariel and you okay so Little Mermaid, she meets the guy. They get on, and there's a spark there, right?

Yeah. And then she decides to take the risk, and she sells out her whole family to go and live with this guy, right? What you're suggesting, what you'd be doing, your equivalent of that story from what you're saying is you see the person from the water. They don't even see you. They don't even know you're there, right?

Then one night, you fucking crawl up like a fucking swamp thing, go and find out wherever they are, right, and just start following about saying that you think you've got a connection. There's no reciprocation. You get dizzy about your Disney, son. You get dizzy about your Disney.

I don't think, from what I remember about the littlest mermaid, right? It's not the littlest mermaid. Right, the little mermaid, right? She's sniffing about him when he's on the boat right he's having a right laugh she sees him on the boat likes the look of him thinks he's pretty hot and all that but she never actually talks to him because she can't talk she just sees him from afar and then she peels up against the rock and she's watching him playing volleyball or whatever right and having a laugh with his mates. And that's

her just looking at him going, I think we would be great together. No, she doesn't think that. She thinks I like him. Yeah, but that's the difference. That's what I'm saying to you. It's different. I like him. Hopefully you'll like me back. What you're saying is based on nothing from this geyser,

you think you've got a connection. That's what you're saying. Do you understand the difference? Prince Valiant hadn't even seen her. Yes, but she's still rolling the dice. She's like, I really like him. What she's not saying is we're meant to be together. She doesn't know that. My coming out of the sea was that message to him.

I think, again, this is an audience question. All right, come back, Romo Tom. Tom obviously sniffs a little score ahead. Sniffs an open goal. Here he is. Hit us up, Rom or Tom, on this. That is to wolfandourpodcast at gmail.com.

That's the wrong email address. Okay, so you know when you get all cocky and confident? By the way, you guys won't know this. He leant into the mic. He had a little fucking snidey look on his face. Right?

He wanted to drop it in because he was nervous that I wasn't going to drop it. And he got the wrong fucking email address. What is the email address? It's wolfowlpod at gmail.com. Okay. Yeah, that's what I thought. wolfowlpod at gmail.com. Anyway. Yeah, that's what I thought. wolfowlpod at gmail.com. Anyway.

Hit us up. Come on. What's this? Okay. So listen, I'll be honest with you. I've been slightly, I've deliberately been a prick there. Okay.

This is the bit that I want to ask you about. All right. Okay. He talks about enjoying the podcast and actually he's particularly a fan of you because he says he used to work in, he used to live in Croydon and he worked in construction

so he does particularly sort of feel a kinship with you so now what he said is anyway would love to follow Tom's lead and extend my own invitation to have a pint with you guys if this nightmare of a pandemic is ever over and you guys are ever in Dublin

I think we'd get on really well. Now, Tom. Guy, if I'm in Dublin, my friend, post-pandemic, I will be there for a pint with you. I'd love to take in a pint with you. I'll drag Romesh along. And yeah, we'll take a pint together.

A nice pint of Guinness each. You up for that, Rob? I will not be in Dublin. I will not be in Dublin. I just want... I will not be in Dublin. I just want to be sort of crystal clear on that. You must have something to do in Dublin.

Yeah, I've got shows to do in Dublin. But what I'm saying is this guy could be... Guy could be a nice bloke, right? I think Guy's a nice bloke. I've got a good feeling about him. How do you know that?

How do you know that? You've heard me read... You've heard me read an email about it. Right. A little bit of faith. So, I'll tell you what, Guy. I'll come out for Romesh's tour show when he's doing Dublin.

We'll get a pint before. If every other comedian in the country dies and I still need a support act, then I'll be in Dublin with Tom. No, I'll come and watch as a fan. Me and Guy can come. No, listen. Listen, in all truth, right? I'm being serious now.

Guy does seem like a nice bloke. He seems like a great guy. Is there any part of you that's slightly worried about meeting up with him at all? No. You know what? I think I've got a sixth sense for these sorts of things, right? And just the way that Guy's language is, just, you know, Guy has felt moved enough through discussions that we've had Right. And just the way that Guy's language is just, you know,

Guy has felt moved enough through discussions that we've had to get in touch and say about going for a pint. Yeah. I think there's a saying that we could do. The more people get in touch with us to go for a pint. Absolutely. God, could I stop you there? Absolutely not.

Listen, no, I'm not fucking encouraging people to get in touch to ask us to go for a pint with them. Are you fucking mad? I just think it would be quite nice. Just branding a big old tour of drinks. Oh,

it's so, no, listen, listen, people are nice, but don't fucking do that. Do you know what? I had a thing.

Let me see what you would do in this. Right. So I was at a pub. I was at a pub with some mates. Right. And this group of lads came over and they said, can we have a photo? And I said, yeah, of course.

I did the photo with them. And then they said, I know this is weird, but can we join you for the night? If it would be a laugh. What would you do in that situation? Well, if it was a group of them, I'd say no. Why? Well, just because it's a group of people.

I think Guy has extended his hand. And I think if anyone else, if it's a pint where you go and, you know, a group of lads and just you, were you on your own at that time? No, I was with some friends. Oh, yeah, but that's just weird, isn't it? It's two groups colliding. There's so many dynamics that can go wrong. You know, me and you go out to Dublin.

We meet Guy. He can probably bring a friend of his along or his wife or whatever, or his boyfriend Because what? This is a double date now. What are you talking about? No! Just so Guy doesn't feel like, you know, he can come on his own. But if we go out with Guy, the variables

like if we meet Guy and we have a right laugh with him, we think we'll probably have about six points with Guy while we're here, he's a right laugh. That's great, because fucking hell, we'll probably have about six points with Guy. Well, really, he's a right laugh. Right? That's great because everything works out. If Guy turns out to be a bit of a melt and then you have one point with him

and go, all right, well, Guy, it's lovely. It's a bit excessive flying all the way over to Dublin for this point now. Bit of a wasted trip, this. One's not even got a tour show. We'll see you around.

But if there's a group of people... Can you imagine... Hold on, okay. By the way, I did say no. I did say I don't think it's a good idea, guys. With regards to Guy, how do you think... Because the thing is, what you're saying is, you're painting a little dynamic here.

Have you been really nice? Are you willing to meet Guy? And what I'm saying to you is, it's a bit of a roll of the dice right we don't know so what you're willing to do is run the risk of going to dublin we meet up with guy we have a pint with him and then after one pint decide that this isn't the way and then guy knows that despite us being in dublin we have chosen after one drink to leave. And where does that leave Guy in the grand scheme of things? Also, you've announced it on the podcast,

so he knows that's the strategy as well. I'll probably say now, I'm so confident that Guy is a good guy. He's a good bloke, right? That I'm so confident that we're having six points for Guy. But now that you've said that and reiterated it, imagine how we will now feel if we abandon him after one point. You've made it even worse, actually. I've just got a feeling about Guy.

Guy, okay, I'm going to tell you now, right? Tom, I've been cynical about this, but Guy does come across like a nice bloke in this email, and I do trust your instincts, Tom i'm gonna say this if tom and i are in dublin guy we get in touch with his put his mobile number on the email yeah we'll get in touch with you and meet you for a pint what i would say is that is this is no this is not a fucking format point for the podcast i don't want to hear from anyone else okay guys taking the opportunity congratulations guy you've won competition's closed right we do

not want any other requests for pints all right or if you do dm tom on instagram he's thirsty as a fucker this guy so tom there's we received a long email here that i want to read to you and get your response from okay response on okay this is from craven raven it's quite a long email here that I want to read to you and get your response on. This is from Craven Raven. It's quite a long email. Feel free to interrupt, Tom, if you want. But you might want to just hear it. The name is perfect.

Wolves are known to be cunning backbiters, and Tom has lived up to that reputation, pretending to be a friend to the owl as he dog whistles to fans of the podcast forming his pack who are willing to join in on you've written this, you've clearly written this this is so boffy I promise you this is coming from someone as he dog whistles to fans of the podcast

forming his pack who are willing to join in on taking the owl down bit by bit now this is how you know that this is not written by me because he goes in on me a bit owls although fabled to be wise are famously not the most intelligent birds and i believe that the wolf knew this when choosing the names for the podcast his assertion that he accidentally stumbled upon the name belies his true intent he's waiting for the moment when one of his pack writes in to say that owls are not particularly intelligent and he can then muse about how many times

the owl has fallen for his traps. Tom loves to say how much the owl fits for Rom and one can almost feel the slightly disguised look of glee on his face when he says it. Forgetting for a moment the cyberpunk 2077 debacle and the anecdote about Christmas trees smelling like piss which could have been traps laid by the wolf for the owl to stumble into. Perhaps the wolf wasn't as

unaware of these truths posing as silly bits of nonsensical information as he appeared. Let's take, for example, the wolf's most recent fictional trap that could become a real one in episode 7. The trap has been laid. When the wolf mentions his appreciation for love at first sight Australia,

a fresh voice can speak to you. When the wolf mentions his appreciation for love at first sight Australia. Listen as a chorus of fresh voices moves you, taking you to greater heights. Add your voice to the mix and let fresh answer back with perfect harmony in pure Michigan. Keep it fresh at Michigan.org. In particular, his efforts to get in touch with a member of the cast, he draws the owl into a conversation about what he would do to meet a cast member. When the owl says he wouldn't fall for such a trap, the wolf suggests a scenario where the owl is a conversation about what he would do to meet a cast member when the owl says he wouldn't fall for such a trap the wolf suggests a scenario where the owl is used as bait to give the wolf access to his favorite cast member he proposes that if and when the wolf and the owl happen to be in melbourne working on a show together hint hint he would love for the owl to scrape together a job for the two of them in australia that he would immediately contact the

cast member and offer an offer up that the wolf and owl would love to meet him, know that the owl has a better chance of gaining access to this guy, owing to the fact, as we heard earlier in the same podcast, that the owl has had some success in making new friends, whereas the wolf is almost universally seen by others as someone to avoid. Perhaps, having seen him from a distance, it's clear to them that he's a wolf and a steering clear of the one who will eventually manipulate them back to the point in the wolf

scenario he's already written an email saying the wolf and owl should come for a visit and already begins to suggest a problem if only the wolf bothered to show up it would ruin his plans as the cast member wouldn't trust him so it puts more pressure on the wolf to get the owl to go to the meeting. And even though it's the kind of pressure that the wolf often puts on himself to get what he wants, he will present this pressure to the owl as though it's been thrust upon him by some unseen force. And imagine

how horrible it would be for the owl to let the wolf humiliate himself in this manner. If you were a true friend, the wolf will say, then do his best to cajole the owl into showing up to the meeting. I thought I liked to fly to fancy. Securing the wolf's entry into yet another victim's territory. Perhaps the owl is the most appropriate name,

given that he so easily falls into the wolf's traps. Sincerely, the Craven Raven. Jesus Christ. By the way, the Craven Raven is an incredible name. Obviously, that's a nickname or whatever. Yeah, thanks for clearing that up, Tim. I thought that the Raven family was struggling for names, and then they finally settled on Craven.

That's incredible. Massive fans of Newsround from back in the day mate that's that's like unreal isn't it the amount it's unreal yeah i mean i mean it's quite a vicious it's quite vicious isn't it on both of us i would say that it's sort of saying that you're quite evil and manipulative and i'm a stupid twat that's sort of what i'm taking yeah which i i i think i think they've they've i mean i think they've granted me with far too much intelligence uh i genuinely thought oh you know what it'd be quite nice to go out with telvin and romesh for a drink but you know that that is clearly someone who who reads it oh that sounds like fan fiction as well doesn't it i know i know you sort of

expect to go, the wolf will lay his trap, the owl will fall into the trap, at which point the wolf will take off his trousers, lube up, and fuck... The owl will start pecking away at his penis. There's about four or five times I've talked about us fucking now in this podcast. Someone else has been having some lurid dreams.

That's got to be the freakiest email of all. I can't work out if the Craven Raven likes the... I mean, I think Craven Raven's probably watching too much CNN. I'll tell you what the Craven Raven does like. Edibles, by the sound of it. I think the Craven Raven has got himself nice and stoned and then written a little story about a wolf and an owl.

That's a really deep, but also thank you for sort of granting us both with such deepness. Yeah, I've got to say, you know, even though it's kind of putting the boot in, I actually do quite like that email. Yeah, yeah.

I think that's actually, yeah. Now... We've got a highbrow, highbrow comment. I mean, I much prefer guys email from yeah of course it is i like the way that both of us are less creeped out by someone who's written a fucking 20 minute fucking 20 page essay about us going to australia and it being a fucking trap that i've laid down we're for an innocent guy from dublin who said oh do you fancy going for

a no listen i've changed look you know i wasn't talking about guy in particular i want to be crystal clear on this i was about generally meeting with a stranger. But Guy, listen. Who would you rather go out for a pint with, Guy or the Craven Raven? Listen, for all we know, Guy is the fucking Craven Raven. Guy is not the Craven Raven. Well, how do you know that? Because Guy's just not like that, mate.

He's got more to him than that. How do you know that we won't go to Dublin, right? We go for a drink. We only need to have one pint because guy slipped something in there and then we wake up you and i fucking tied up back to back butt naked and then guy comes out in a fucking raven costume and he says i thought you would have known from the clues i laid for you when you read out you know what i'll make you right rob yeah you were right on this occasion. That's the first time

you've been right since we've done the podcast. And then I'll say, do you know what? As Guy bludgeons us to death, I will use the knowledge that I was right in this instance

to sort of sweeten the blows a little bit. And actually, I don't mind this happening. You can do what you like to us, Raven, because I know I was correct.

And Tom was wrong for the first time 5-1 I've only lost 5-1 and then I slip into unconsciousness okay do you want an email where we actually try and help somebody out yeah let's do that

it would be great to help someone out. So this email is from... Actually, I'm going to keep it anonymous, all right? Oh, wow. Because it's quite a difficult, sort of a bit of a sticky situation. Okay. So this guy's been going out... I'm sort of summarizing to try and help anonymize him a bit, okay?

Yeah. So this guy is 22 and he's been going out with his girlfriend for two years, right? Yeah. This is a problem I think he actually wants some help with, right? Okay. Before he's sort of unzipping. So, firstly, we've barely been intimate for around a year for various reasons. Obviously, COVID restrictions didn't help and a couple of other factors.

I'd rather not go into detail. As on the off chance anyone I know is listening to this make me quite identifiable. Now, since we've moved in, she's barely more than pecked me, which is insane. How do I deal with this?

I tried talking about it, but nothing has changed. Secondly, she recently said to me something along the lines of, I'm better than you and then didn't back down afterwards. I'm very adverse to conflicts. I didn't take issue with this at the time,

but given the other issues, I'm a little concerned it could be linked to, or at least indicative of a bigger problem. Thanks for the advice in advance. This isn't the kind of thing I can really talk to anyone about. There you go. Tom. Wow.

So this is sort of boiling down the situation. This is a guy who he's at the age where you should be. I mean, two years in early doors you should be visiting Smashdown almost every day, sometimes twice a day right? let me be absolutely crystal clear, there is no should or shouldn't, everybody's different

they have sex the problem that you have is that there's a disparity between what you two think is the happy medium you have is that there's a disparity between what you two think is the uh the happy medium we should be arriving at it's a difficult one this because out of the email we've ever been sent this feels like the only one we've ever been sent where someone actually genuinely needs their help yes correct um i've been watching a lot of catfish and i've been watching a lot of married at first sight so that is there's some deep stuff there.

So what you're suggesting, that's how he should spend his time rather than having sex? No, I'm saying there's actually like relationship advice in there. I can also go back to when I was about 22, 23, sort of in my 20s. I was in a very similar position to this anonymous listener. Okay. Where I was with someone who was clearly but if i'm going to

be completely honest every girl i've ever been with has been substantially better than me um but she was a she she was genuinely a very in a very similar way she'd let not just me know it but let other people know this if we were out and about and what she'd let other people know that she was better than you oh she'd say that yeah yeah yeah she'd make other people know that she was better than you. Oh, she'd say that, yeah. Yeah, she'd make jokes about it. But I was so in love with her, and she was someone I cared a lot about, that I never actually sort of... I sort of stuck it out, thinking things would get better,

and maybe sort of when we hit our 30s and 40s, I'd become more of a catch, which ironically I did. But the truth of the matter is, there's nothing that's, if I'm going to be brutally honest, if she said that and not turned around and apologized and not said sorry and not backed down

and you're in the situation you're in, I'd say that genuinely it's very, very difficult. I don't know if you'd agree, Romesh, to get pulled back from that situation. And if she's not going to be talking about it and she's not going to be open with you about why she feels the way she does and why she's saying the things that she's said,

I think it's going to be really, really hard. And, you know, speaking from, you know, you're a long time dead and your 20s are an important time and at the moment, yeah, we're going through COVID, it's hard and whatever, and, you know you're a long time dead and your 20s are an important time and at the moment yeah we're going for your covid it's hard and whatever and you know it's probably your relationship and quite a new relationships under sort of the microscope but i'd say that um yeah i'm sort of beating around the bush get the fuck out man just mate i mean yeah i mean head for the door and go and stay at your mom and dad's can i I tell you something, man?

This is what I think. And I agree with Tom completely. The truth of the matter is there are enough things in life that are going to damage your self-esteem and make you feel shit about yourself. There are enough things going on during your existence to make you feel crap about yourself. The person that you're with is supposed to be the opposite of that. They're supposed to make you feel crap about yourself the person that you're with is supposed to be the opposite of that they're supposed to make you feel better about yourself that when

you have a shit day they're supposed to lift you up and you're supposed to do the same for them the reason you're with somebody is that you both make each other stronger you make each other happier you cannot be in a relationship where somebody is making you feel worse about yourself and based on the way that you've written that email she is making you feel worse about yourself now it's possible that she doesn't know she's done that in which case i would say i would have a chapter about it now you will know when you have that talk and you have to have this talk urgently i would say you will know when you have this talk whether the truth of the matter is she's not into you and she does think she's better than you

if that's the case you need to get out man because you deserve somebody that makes you fucking amazing right and she is not the one so if that's the case get out man and find somebody go and have fun and find something that makes you feel incredible about yourself like tom and i that the the psychological issues that our respective other halves have to deal with in terms of our self-esteem and it's it's it's shocking and my wife and i know and i know this about katherine as well with tom they they make us feel better and it's difficult because we feel like shit all the time and and and and hopefully i do the same for lisa and i'm sure tom does the same

for katherine so that's listen i'm getting a bit serious now but i do genuinely believe that i think tom feels the same way you can't be in a relationship that makes you feel like that man so you're you know regardless of how you feel and sometimes relationships can make you feel a certain way you're better than that man yeah and also you know if you you've got powers and stuff to speak to you most people are going to go through this and the first time that this happens to you the first time you go through it it's going to be the the hardest time but you know it comes a few years down the line you know number one hopefully you come out of it stronger and you use the positives of that you never make

anyone feel the way that she's making you feel at the moment. So, yeah. And you know what? It is good to talk, genuinely. And we can give you some advice, but find a friend or a loved one and have a chat about it because it's important to air how you feel. We got quite deep there, Tom. How do you feel about that?

You know, I feel sad for this kid. I genuinely feel sad for him. I've been there, as I'm sure you have. It's a horrible feeling. Yeah, it's horrible. And also,

you know, I feel sorry for him for the relationships and I also feel sorry for him that he's turned to us for advice. Yeah, I do find that he's,

he had to email his favourite comedy podcast with two blokes. He's also emailed two men who, for the majority of this podcast, one who can barely fucking string a sentence together, and the other one who

could be quite a cutting little meanie. Ooh! Ooh! He's seen something in us to go, you know, that or it's genuinely he's looked at the, the both of us and gone, well,

those two look like a couple of guys who probably can be for the meal. I'm feeling like shit about myself. I wonder who could relate to that. Well, those two must be able to, because look at them, look at how they live their lives. Anyway,

I hope that helped. Yeah. And if it doesn't't if it didn't or if you need more help email us man and we're happy to point you in the right direction yeah

or come out for a pint with me Romesh and Guy yeah I'll be honest with you it's probably going to lead to us being tied up but

yeah it could feel good right Tom yeah it's about that time my brother um can you sum up this week because yeah we've been all over the place haven't we yeah we've run around a lot this week and you know what um and we're coming out with a bit of deepness so i'm going to try and bring a little light dreams we're dreams the pictures movies that run through your head.

Sometimes they're an exploration into your feelings that you might not be able to convey. You know, feelings that will sit with you when you're on your bench lifting some serious weight or on a bike ride or maybe just having a cigarette in the back garden. Sometimes those feelings will manifest and you're just shouting out as loud as you can, I can't take this anymore.

Or emailing a couple of wallies because you think that they might be able to help. Dreams and feelings are important. They're the things that make you. What's going on there? I don't know where I'm going. You don't know where you're going every week. Why have you suddenly gone off the rails? Because it's the deeper one.

I feel like I'm obliged to go. Dreams and feelings are the things that make you. They're the beating of your heart and the clicking of your brain. Pay them the attention that they deserve. Remember, when you wake up

in the morning, it wasn't just a dream. It was a feeling that had made itself a movie. We'll see you next time. Fucking hell. That's what happens if I go in deep, brother. That was... Woo!

Yeah. Okay. Tom. Yeah. Oh, listen. If you want to email us with anything at all, you can email us at, Tom? Wolfowlpodcast at gmail.com.

No, no, no, no. Wolfowlpod at gmail.com no no no no wolf our pod at gmail.com wolf our pod at gmail hey guys if you want to email in any questions or for any helpful advice email wolf our pod at gmail.com thank you very much tom it's been an absolute pleasure thank you for letting me ride inside you. Fuck's sake.