Wolf and Owl - Horny dreams, zombie apocalypses and school parties
Episode Date: March 24, 2026What do Tom’s dreams mean? How would we fare in a zombie apocalypse? Is Rom becoming a soft touch? And what scary film did Tom audition for? We discuss all of this, plus reminisce about how cool we... weren’t in school - enjoy! Don’t forget to send in your questions to wolfowlpod@gmail.com for the chance to have them answered in an upcoming episode. A Ranga Bee Production in partnership with Platform Media. 00:00 Intro 00:51 Rom’s hair (again) 01:55 Sleep gate and Tom’s master 07:21 Nancy singing 08:07 A level of horny 10:15 Zombie apocalypse 13:44 Accents16:01 - Clubbing 19:02 Romeesh and Rahmesh 20:28 Ashamed 21:33 Charlie’s day out, Lego and Gail’s 23:18 Rom’s parenting 26:02 School parties 32:45 The old memory road Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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You're listening gear around this, mate.
Yeah
Yeah, what do you want
Beak or jaws
Feathers or fur
Sharp teeth or feet with claws
Whatever's prefer
Just kidding
Every word in his songs
About two grown men
Dressed up as a bird
And a dog
How are you?
Very well, mate
Good
Good to see you
It's, you know what
I'm still not like this haircut
Yeah, the haircut
The haircuts
It's a moot point now
Mute point right
Is it moot or mood?
It depends what you're trying to say
It's like
It's like irrelevant
Because you
this isn't you now.
You're an actor
living through this character.
Now I'm not.
Now I'm doing the fucking Wolf in our podcast.
Yeah, I know, but you're still...
Because of a contractual obligation.
Yeah, but...
It's a horrible thing to call our friendship.
No, but I think
once a play's done, I think
I speak for everyone.
Once this plays done, I can't wait to see
the new Rommish. I was contemplating,
shaving everything off. Anyway, we've talked about this.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, tell me, on the last,
Last episode, we didn't really talk about you enough, I don't think.
But then on the one before that, it was a big, a lot of Tom.
Okay, let's have a bit more Tom now.
Okay.
How are you?
I'm good.
You've got nothing, have you?
I've got stuff, don't worry about me.
I've always got stuff in the vault.
I've always got stuff over here.
Okay, well, when you say vault, that starts to make me nervous.
I don't need to pull some story at your ass from whenever.
No, I'm a very recent story.
Okay, go on.
Sleep gate.
So, as you know, I've had some trouble sleeping recently.
Mm.
Me too.
and I picked up some melatonin.
Congrats.
Have you had melatonin before?
Yeah.
Have I had melatonin just a bit?
I love you doing the look down the camera now.
Anyway, got on.
So melatonin.
Yeah, so I've been having this melatonin.
I think I, but I've been like the weirdest dreams.
Like what?
Well, I had a dream the other night that I was a chamber made in like an awardian house.
But like I had all my features, like my sort of beard and stuff.
stuff, but my body was that of a sort of like probably 28 year old woman in the,
oh my God, this sounds a hell of a dream.
So you got that face.
Yeah.
But a body of a 20 hour of, I can't even say it.
I'm just thinking about you.
Quite a buxan woman.
Right.
Quite a, yeah.
I would imagine if you're a woman, you'd be bucks up.
Yeah.
Makes sense.
And a lot of junk in the trunk, I'd imagine as well.
And then my master took a bit of a liking to me.
So I'm having this dream and...
God!
That won't be the funniest thing you've ever said.
Thank you.
Fucking hell.
Okay, so your master...
So at first it's sort of like...
Who was your master?
He's like...
I didn't actually get his name.
I can't remember it in a dream.
What did he look like?
He's handsome.
A bit like Lord Lucan.
Sort of like Lord Lucan sort of like probably his second.
He's got quite a sense of him as Lord Lucas.
But anyhow, I'm so sorry.
I was going about my chores and my Jews.
I bet you're bent over a lot, weren't you?
Well, this is, yeah.
I wasn't the master.
That's not the punch lights of this.
No, no, no, no, of course, no.
So I was obviously, you know, bringing out food and bits for the family.
Yeah.
Was it quite vivid?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
They had like three kids
wife
His wife
And then my master
And I was like
Cleaning out
Cleaning the room down the dining room
Yeah
One night
And then he sort of comes behind me
And kisses me on the nape of my neck
And sort of
Start sort of whispering sweet nothings into my ear
Right
Do you remember any of the sweet nothings?
Well it's like
It's like I can't control myself around you
And also I'm a big sort of
Although I'm a man
I'm a bit grotty.
I've got sort of like...
You've got made levels of hygiene.
And then he's been a bit sort of hands around, you know, gropy.
A bit grope.
Yeah.
Gropy.
So in the dream, could you fill the hands on your boobs?
Yeah.
What do you think is happening in reality?
Do you think you're filling your own boobs?
No, no, no, no.
I don't think so.
I'm quite a sort of, you know, I sleep on my side.
Okay, fine.
Anyway, I quite like him as well.
I quite like him as well.
Obviously, he's powerful, and he's a rich, powerful man.
So then we started having quite a lot.
like a sort of like you know sort of you're about to say rompy pompe yeah wasn't and i sort of
remember that so then we start having an affair how graphic was the sex uh i mean not graphic
graphic it was sort of you know like sort of soft core right soft core sort of level you know a lot
of kissing a lot of sort of suggestive stuff and then um and then i and then i but then his wife
found out right and then what happened well i was thrown out into the street as a slut on a whore
I don't understand how
This is really
Like you've got a full narrative arc in this dream
Mate the dreams I'm having
This is just one of many
But this is one that
This is all my favourite one
Yeah
This is the one that's
I can't imagine there's one better than this one
Well at the moment no
But it's like being involved in a movie
Especially probably one of the best parts I've ever had
Then I'm yeah
I'm thrown out
And it's sort of to be fair
You know when like a dream ends
And you still got that heartbreak in you
Not because I've just looked like
Yeah
I had that where I woke up once
And I thought I was going out with
Brandy from Moisha.
Oh, wow.
I mean, Brandy the singer, but she was in Moesha.
Yeah, it was a Moesha that was going out with.
And then I woke up, I was really gutted.
Were you with Lisa at this time?
I don't want to talk about it.
You know, I felt the same about, yeah.
Yeah.
The Earl that I was with.
Yeah.
Sort of, I woke up.
It's such a weird thing, that feeling of sort of like,
because I felt ashamed and sort of dirty and disgusting.
I got it.
I was sort of like, yeah.
Because you're doing something wrong,
but that made it feel a bit better, I imagine.
Yeah, but also.
When we were together, it felt right.
Oh, absolutely.
It so often does.
But then I just remember the last bit of dream where I'm just walking around the street,
the old streets of London.
So it carried on?
Because to me, this story's over now.
You've been thrown out?
No, no, no.
The last bit is I get thrown out.
And then the last thing I remember.
But the dreams can go on without you remember in details.
I'm remembering, yeah, this dream's probably lasted.
It lasted a good amount of time.
Yeah.
The last bit I remember is I'm just sobbing, walking around sort of a bit of where you're Charlie,
a bit like Nancy.
Oliver.
Oliver, yeah.
That's actually, it's quite
a Nancy-like sort of woman.
Who will buy my sweet red roses
two blooms for a tenor.
Oh, it's a penny.
It's Dickensian.
Two blooms for a fucking tenor.
You'd be fucked off about that now.
Who will buy my sweet red roses?
Is that a little girl who sings there?
Yeah.
There's it go.
fly
strawberry
that's actually one of the best
you remember it quite well
yeah I love that musical
Knives
There's a nice one how does the knife one go
I can't
Who will buy my nice shop knives
Two blades for
Four thousand pounds
I keep thinking about it
Did it make you horny
There was a level of horny to me
Yeah
But then it's not a level of horny
that you could easily kind of...
Yeah, but...
You've created an itch that's not easily scratched.
I'm going to tell you...
Yeah, of course.
Because you need the body of a 28th of a woman.
Yeah.
And not in the way that...
And also, if I was a 28, well, I've never been a 28.
I'd, you know...
It's unlikely.
I'll be a 47-year-old woman now.
Yeah.
And, but I...
Every now and again, I'll just drift away
and think of his hands on me and then kissing me.
It's such a weird feeling.
Did it feel good?
Like, to be taken up in someone's arms?
Yeah, because in the dream, he was so...
strong and yeah and I believe the things he said yeah what did he say oh just like you're such a
special girl you're such a special girl and did you do you remember if you talked in the dream
about um I taught like I talk now in the dream oh god oh completely flummoxed and betwixt by all this
but yeah you can give it to me well we go down to the scholar you and I'll give you a little bit more
Dido.
Well, deters would be excellent.
Obviously, you want to know the logistics of...
Shush, now.
How are you...
Blanche.
Like where?
Blanche.
Shush.
Where would you like...
I mean, do you want backhand a four-hand or...
Hush, big blanche?
What are we...
What are we talking here?
I could use this rolling pin as a peg.
No, master doesn't need to hear you all at the voice.
I found it, like, quite...
Arousing, yeah.
I'm finding it quite arousing hearing about the story.
It's quite...
Yeah.
Are there any other ones that spring to mind?
No, that's the one that really, really sort of, yeah.
That's the one that I really...
Did you tell Catherine?
No.
No.
I don't think you should have said it on this podcast, really.
Yeah, but she doesn't listen to the podcast.
Okay.
Why did you not tell her?
I think I woke up in the morning and it felt...
To be fair, I sometimes go on about my dream.
I like a discussion about dreams.
And I just think, yeah, it's a bit, yeah.
Maybe as well, I felt a little bit, like, naughty.
Yeah, it's weird.
Yeah.
Or unusual, I'd say.
Yeah, but I think that's a melatonin rather than.
What are dreams?
Are dreams your fantasies?
I don't think dreams are your fantasies because I had one where I was stave in a zombie's head in with a spade.
Yeah, but that is a fantasy.
It's not a fantasy.
I left a Nicorette patch on overnight.
Can I ask, how do you think you'd feral a zombie apocalypse?
I would kill myself as soon as I saw them out of window, yeah.
I am somebody that I just thought, like, my opinion is I'm clinging.
on to life pretty lightly.
You know, like...
I think zombies, by the way,
the most overrated threat
in the world.
Then,
they're...
Not only they're not overrated.
They're not rated.
No, but...
There's no such fucking thing.
If all the things that people worry about,
I'm not worried about zombies.
Are you under the impression
that's a mic drop moment?
No, I just think that.
You don't worry on a day-to-day basis
about zombies?
No.
I literally think you've got more to worry about
becoming a 20-year-old woman
and getting fucked by your master.
Didn't you have about zombies?
I'm just saying that there's a lot of pressure put on zombies.
There isn't.
When people watch zombies stuff.
This is part of the thing with politics shows as well, I think, or stuff like this,
where people, you know, like, people present arguments as fact.
There's not a lot of pressure on zombies.
Mate, I'm just saying that there's a lot of programs with people got fucking on,
mate, if there's a zombie apocalypse, what would you do?
Are you doing it 28 days later?
I'm talking about, in general.
Yeah.
28 days later, I've got a bit of a sticky point with.
Why?
I audition for it.
Didn't get it.
That's what?
The Hantley Johnson part.
Big part, baby.
Yeah, I'm not going to say what I think about the eventual casting.
My jolly accent was so bad.
Try it now.
Wee, we better get running from these zombies, Lake.
Wee, me.
Better get running from these.
Wee.
We here, no.
We better get running from these zombies before it's too late.
That's not you trying your hardest.
No, it's not.
Okay, go on, try your hardest.
Okay.
We're here.
We better here.
No, you're, stop.
What, by the way.
Okay.
First, I can't do a Jordy accent.
Yeah.
Stop starting with we're here.
All right.
Right.
We biscuit running from these zombies like.
I have to worry because every time I do these accents, it slips into a place that could be quite.
In what?
What do you mean?
Well, I worry that it's insulting.
Right.
I see.
I see.
Yeah.
I could be insulting many different people if they heard me do that without any.
I think, you know, rightly or wrongly, you attempting a Georgie accent is for
Go on.
That's more Scottish, isn't it?
Right.
Right.
We best get running from these zombies like.
Yeah.
I sort of at the end of it.
The worst thing is I can't, I can't sort of figure out what you're trying to do.
Can I just say that I would have actually respected the person, the casting director, more, if they'd actually finish the thing and gone.
Okay.
Uh, uh,
it was such a fucking yeah it was not my finest moment
it was a killer
it's a fucking hard accent to do the joie accent
can you do it?
A little bit late
a little bit leek
oh my gosh
it's my favourite accent as well
I love the jollies
you're really good at accents
I'm not I was having a discussion with your brother the other day
yeah
your brother yeah
no but there's certain accent
I think to be really good accents,
you have to be able to have a good attempt at every accent.
And there are some that I'll never get.
Yeah, but a lot of times we do like a character,
we do like a character of them.
When you hear like people do a really,
like Idris doing string a bell,
was incredible.
It was like felt so just normal.
Yeah, yeah.
And rhythmic.
Yeah, so that was a great way.
I can't we do American either.
You can.
I've heard you do American.
No, but not like,
I couldn't be in a film as an American.
I think, you know what?
If you had enough practice, you'd be amazing.
You reckon?
I think you'd be amazing in American.
Like a sort of like, you could be like the cheeky teacher.
Yeah.
That's sort of like, yeah, some of the girls are being naughty.
Girls, girls, you stop that now.
Oh my God.
For whatever you say, here comes Mr. Ranganathan.
Why would I be called that?
Because the guy who's written apart has written it for you.
Okay, fine.
All right.
So you're one of the girls.
I'm one of the girls.
Elsie Mae.
Okay.
Now Elsie Mae, you know that I don't like that.
basket those wandering hands away from me, Mr.
Oh, whoa.
Mr. Reagan, May.
Elsie Mae.
You know I didn't touch you.
Elsie, Elsie May says what she believes.
I don't understand.
You pitched the part to me as a cheeky teacher, and I'm a fucking nuns.
And the right is good for you.
So, so Ramesh, I got this power for you.
It's written with your name.
Okay.
And he's a paedophile.
He's a teacher.
He's a math teacher who's a head of year who's a paedophile.
Okay.
Well, that was my exact job at school, except for the paedophile bit.
Oh, just to be clear, being a paedophile.
And I wasn't head of year the whole time.
Being a paedophile isn't a job.
It's a life choice.
No, I know that.
I know that.
I don't think it's a choice.
It's like growing a moustache.
Yeah.
This year, I'm going to grow a moustache and be a pedophile.
That's my two resolutions
What have you been up to
My dear friend?
Um
I went clubbing recently
What
Where
Friction, do you know friction?
Yes, I don't know who he is
I don't know the guy
He's a good mate of mine
Yeah
He was very cool guy
Very cool guy
Very cool guy
He got a cool vibe to him
He has got a cool vibe
Arsenal fan
Of course
You're
You're select now
The people close to you
Have become very Arsenal-fied
No, that's not true.
I mean, that is true.
I mean, I would say I've got a higher proportion of friends at sport of Arsenal than anyone else.
That is true.
There's a lot of Arsenal fans now, in general, I think.
Yeah, they're all coming out of the woodwork, right?
And then they'll disappear back when we bought that.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, I was doing the play.
Yep.
And then Friction said to me, I'm playing it out and that.
Right.
Do you know out of that, that new venue?
No, no, no, no.
It's amazing.
What, okay.
It's amazing venue.
Anyway, said I'm playing it out of net.
From 12.30 till 2.30.
Wow.
Two hours of sweet, street, street, dancing.
Now, I'm due up at 7 a.m.
For the radio show.
Oh, my gosh.
So this is on the Friday night.
Right.
Not drinking, obviously.
Staying in London.
Staying in London.
So it's not like I've got to trick it all the way back and come back in.
Yeah.
Go to out on that.
On your jacks?
What do you mean?
On your own?
Oh, no, no.
Sheridan came with me.
Oh, nice.
We go along there.
Meet Friction.
Meet his Mrs.
Mrs. Friction.
Yeah.
That's not her name.
Yeah, she goes by Mrs Friction.
Really?
Of course not.
Okay, I was going to say.
Fucking hell.
No, for a guy.
It's not the Incredibles.
No, just saying for a guy, friction feels like a cool name,
but if her name was Mrs. Friction, it just...
It isn't, though.
I know, but, yeah.
I feel like we're insulting her.
No, I'm not insulting her, because I love friction,
but you said Mrs. Friction, yeah.
I was just doing a bit.
Okay, yeah, cool.
No, I take things literally sometimes.
Yeah, no, I need it do.
So we go there
I thought I'm going to stay for an hour
Anyway end up at the stern to 2.30 in the morning
Wow
233 o'clock maybe
I go back to a hotel at 3
Yeah
And then I'm so panicked
By the way oh this is not the point in the story
The point of story is this
But this is not a funny story I'm just telling you
I danced the whole time bro
Wow
Sober dancing in a club
Yeah
Two hours
I didn't think I had it in my locker
Like proper dance dancing
No sweating
Sweating
I respect that.
Yeah.
I think you can call it dancing.
I wasn't like going
like that.
What is the dancing that sort of people are doing?
There's a lot of guns.
No, what?
The rope come over here.
Is that what you just did?
Yeah.
No.
Okay.
What sort of stuff?
Show me just roughly.
There's a lot of gun fingers.
Oh, you were doing that?
Yeah.
Well, that.
When in a heart's the leaf.
No.
No.
I like it.
Yeah.
That one as well.
A little bit of that, yeah.
Yeah.
And then there's a bit of that.
Anyone jump on your back?
No.
Okay.
Somebody kept telling me I looked a lot like Ramesh.
Can I say bug bear at mine?
Go on.
Ramesh.
Yeah, a lot of people think it's Ramesh.
I fucking hate it.
A lot of people think it's Ramesh.
Do you know I really like, mate?
Your pal, Ramesh.
Ramesh.
Okay.
You've not done that once.
No, I do so.
It's Rommish.
Do you really correct them?
Yes, because how much could you like someone if you put an A in their name?
No, that's fair enough.
Ramesh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyhow.
Ramesh would be better than wrong.
I was just very pleased that I...
That's...
I'm fucking impressed with that.
Get back to the hotel.
I know what's happening here.
What will happen?
I know that I've got to go up at 7.
It's a worst.
What do you think happens?
Well, because then you're in freak out mode.
Yeah.
You weren't back going into a sleep.
It's too deep.
You won't wake up and hear your arm.
All correct.
Then footage will come out of you leaving a nightclub.
Yeah.
Still dancing probably.
Correct.
Get into the back of an Uber.
Yeah, correct.
Oh, I walked actually.
Did you?
Yeah.
Can I respect that?
Walking.
Some like that.
Panicking about going to sleep.
I end up getting about an hour and a half.
Saturdays are a long day for you.
Bro, radio show, play, play.
Yeah.
Long ting.
Yeah.
You know?
Long...
So you're dealing with a 14, 16-hour day there?
Longting.
16-hour day?
Yeah.
Oh, man.
And then do you, can you sleep between the two plates?
Yeah.
Did you?
No.
Oh, mate.
But I was so tired.
Somebody text in to the radio show and they said, I told an embarrassing story and said, they're shamed from London.
That's how they signed it off, from ashamed in London.
Right.
And I was so tired, I read it as Ashamed.
Okay.
So I've gone, and that's from Ashamed in London.
producer Katie starts cracking up
obviously
then I start laughing
and then all these texts start coming in
anyway they've clipped it now
oh wow
this is pure result of my lack of sleep
self-inflicted
who reads that saying it's Ashamed
well probably would
anyway I sort of made me tired thinking about it
Saturday night though I slept
the sleep of a
thousand sleep
have you caught up now
I feel sorry for a Lisa and the kids
so you just got in and slept
What time did you sleep to on the Sunday?
I got to put 9 because I'd take Charlie to Oliver.
Oh, nice.
About an A for Charlie boy.
Yeah.
We're not there.
Okay, this is another thing I want to talk about.
I'm getting fucking mugged off, by the way.
Well, by Charlie.
We go to Oliver.
Yeah.
Now, he's only been doing it a little bit,
but it's the first time I'm taking him on his own with him, right?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
He wants a Gregs.
I get him a Gregs.
I love this kid.
we go to get to London Bridge
and we've got a change
to get a Charing Cross right
he says can I get a snack from
not for now but for later on in the day
to put in his bag
we go to Marks and Spencer's shut
they're moving at London Bridge so he says but there's a Gales
next door I end up buying him a Gales right
this kid
okay then we get to Chang Cross
yeah
we're early
so let's have a lot
hang out for a bit we got a Lego World
yeah everyone in there go to Eminem World
because I like this hoodie I buy him the
do. Wow. He's playing you.
Mate.
Lego was the only place I didn't buy something for him in, right?
Probably the only place as well. You'd have got something.
We get to the... You like Lego, right?
Yeah, I don't like that I just say that we brought Grace quite a bit of Lego for.
Yeah.
There's something so relaxing about making.
Yeah.
I've been quite, like, taking the micko, I felt very hypocritical.
You should do? Because you've been quite piss-taking.
When I was going through my Lego face with kids.
I sat with great. And in the end, she was just off doing something else.
And I was just sitting, something I'm making some Lego thinking, I might get this.
I do think there's a real possibility that Catherine's bringing Lego in the house to keep you occupied.
Yeah, yeah.
Praise down my anxiety.
I hyperfocus.
So what else you get him?
So that was it.
And then I even I offered to get him a bubble tea before we actually got to the theatre because there's like a little place.
Yeah, I'm a nice bubble tea.
Anyway, it's a running joke that I'm a soft touch.
Can I just say by the way?
Yeah.
I just think that's good daddy.
Is it?
Yeah.
I think we put so much emphasis.
I'm getting a bit mugged off there, aren't I?
Can I just,
can I just say, in the time you were buying those and you're hanging out
and he was eating his Greggs and the whole gale thing came along after that that little sort of side track happened?
Yeah.
When you're walking around Lego Land or the M&M thing.
Any point did you feel, oh, listen, I feel like I'm getting mugged off?
No, because Charlie doesn't ask like that.
No, no, but can I just say, I think you got what you, that was a nice, that was a nice morning.
I think that when you have those things in life now
where sometimes you look back at it and go
oh God I shouldn't have done this
and you beat yourself up about
oh you know are you spoiled and a kid or have you
have they played you a bit
a lot of that's the fact is you've probably felt
it felt a nice thing for a nice thing to buy them those things
it's a nice time with your boy no you're right thanks bro
don't be so hard on yourself thanks man that's so sweet dad
you're a sweet boy that's really sweet of your lake
god that was even better than the first
it's really sweet of your leak
That's not a real attempt
It's really sweet of your leak
It's really sweet of your leak
Do it one more time
It's really sweet here leak
Okay there you go, you got it
So hold it
So do you wait for him then to finish the show
I dropped him Lisa
Picked him up
God Lisa
That's a tough end
The fuzzy end of the lollipot for Lisa
I had other things on
So she goes and picks him up
Why are you saying that she's got
The fuzzy end of the lollipop
Well you get a lovely morning
Which is nice
Well they went to Dave's Hot Chicken
Afterwards
Oh okay
you know, that's a nice time
I mean Charlie's had a fucking hell of a day
by the way, he's killing it
You've got three boys who are all
Fucking excelling
I don't know if they
What is excelling?
No but not excelling
But they're all, do you know what I love about
Your pairing?
All three of them following their own passions
Yeah, that's true
That's very, very positive
Yeah
You know, yeah
You think about me and you at that age
What were you like?
I was getting beating up somewhere
Which was one of your passions
Yeah
Well it had to be
on your passions when it happened so much to you.
I was probably getting chased around, yeah, beating up.
I don't think, I mean, I'm exaggerating.
I don't think I've got beaten up, but I,
yeah, I don't know.
I sometimes think of how thirsty I was at school.
Yeah, your boys don't suffer with that, did I?
I feel embarrassed at how, like, just...
I feel like that about, I feel like that about adult life sometimes.
That you're quite thirsty?
You know what?
It's one of the things I'm really trying to cut back on.
You're not really thirsty?
I've a thirst about me.
What, with strangers?
with new people?
Yeah, I can't, yeah, I think it's less now,
it's less apparent now.
I think I've really started to rain it in.
Yeah.
Because I've realised just how sort of ugly it was.
Disgusting it is, yeah.
Yeah.
But as a kid, I was so thirsty.
Did you ever not get invited to, like, school parties and stuff?
No.
Of course I did.
I remember a girl in her class having a big party at her house,
and she was in my class.
She sat like a desk away from me.
And she was telling everyone about this party.
And I sort of tried to be cool.
And I was like, there's this party.
Like, you know, when is it?
And she was like Saturday night.
How old are you?
Probably about 14.
Okay.
And I was like, oh, yeah, loads of people are going, right?
And she went, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I was like, oh, yeah, be cool to go along.
And she said, if you can find it, you can come.
And I spent that Saturday night with my friend,
Oh no
This is like
It's like a really shit
Super bad this, isn't it?
Just looking for this party
Just walking around
Like we didn't quite know the area
She lived in
When was the party
And when did she tell you that?
That was like on the
Maybe the Wednesday or Thursday
And the party was on a Saturday
What I would say is
That is an invitation of sorts
Yeah, of course
Yeah
Like she's actually
Yeah
Even the tone in which she said
It sounded quite kind of
Because I think this girl thought
I was a,
Yeah I thought
She was saying it
Because we were mates
I think she thought
like, oh, if I've not given him an invitation, which other kids had had had, or told him where it is.
They'd had an invitation with an address.
I think, yeah, she had given her address out.
Yeah, yeah.
And then I tried to get the invitation and the address off another kid.
Yeah.
Who was like, I know, I've been told we're not allowed to sell people.
Oh, no.
So she's done that.
Okay, that's a bit different.
So then I was going to say, just ask somebody, where's this woman.
So then we found, not woman, it was a girl.
I knew vaguely for, for the school.
I knew, I knew vaguely from where she got off to school bus.
Yeah.
Where she lived.
So we started walking around the streets
And we were out
And
Had got an invite?
No
Had he been told
I told him to come with me
So by the way
This story
We're sort of giving you sympathy
Let's fucking
Pour out a little liquor for a
Who not only
Has not got an invitation
He's a fucking
He has decided to hitch his wagon
To
so he's sadder than the guy who hasn't me
given the fucking address.
Imagine being that guy.
He was a sidekick in other people's lives, this guy.
So my mum was like, what are you up to tonight?
And I said, oh, we're going to a party.
Yeah.
Your mum asked you then.
Yeah, my mum, dad, like, you know, we're going out.
So let me drop you.
And my mom was so excited that I was being invited to sort of a party.
Oh, no.
So we got off the bus and we started walking around the streets looking for this party,
knocking on the occasional door and being told to fuck off.
And we never found the party.
We just walked around the streets for hours until sort of like I said like,
you know, it started raining.
I was like, this is just pointless.
And then I went home and my mum had waited up for me.
And she was like, how's the big party?
And I didn't have the heart to tell her that.
I said, oh, it was so good.
it was so really
it was great
it's really fun
um
she was like
oh we're so and so there
I was like oh yeah
I think so
yeah
yeah
and yeah
and then it was just
that horrible thing
of sort of uh yeah
and then
but then you had to go back to school
on Monday
yeah
what was that like
well you
I remember saying like
um
I was a gang of
couldn't find a bloody party
um
because she sat at a couple of desk
I said how was a party
And she said, I was really good, and everyone was there.
And I was like, oh, yeah, cool.
Yeah, no, we couldn't find it in the end.
We looked for ages.
Oh, my God.
Did you say that?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Why the fuck did you say that?
Because I thought she'd find it funny.
And then go, oh, you know.
Yeah, she would find it funny at your expense.
But I thought if she, was she, you want my minute to do?
I'm 14.
I'm not going to go.
Oh, yeah, cool.
I just chilled in at my house.
Yeah.
No, that was like, I was like, yeah, we'd bloody look for it.
I couldn't find a bloody thing.
Oh, no.
And then.
Oh, God.
God.
And you know the weird thing?
It's like years later, I bumped into her.
And she remembered it.
She remembered that detail.
When you bumped into her, were you this, Tom Davis?
Well, yeah.
I mean, it was, we were probably...
When I say that, what I mean is, like, how do you put on this?
You know, people don't realize, or some people that don't really know you, don't know this.
But obviously, this is, a lot of this is persona and stuff you've added on, isn't it?
It's not the real year.
Yeah, years of bullying has meant that I added on some armor.
No, no.
Yeah, it was, so we were probably about, yeah, late 20s.
Right.
And then she was like, oh my God, I still sometimes laugh about you looking for my party.
I thought it was so funny.
I was like, yeah, no, it was really funny.
It was quite sad.
I don't know why you couldn't have.
And do you know what?
I always taught she, I used to chat to her quite a lot.
It sort of felt quite, yeah.
Did you have anything?
Did I have anything like that?
No, if I had anything like that, I would have killed myself.
Yeah, but also.
I look at that sort of and think it's quite a funny story.
I don't look at it going, oh, fuck.
It's embarrassing.
It's cringe-worthy.
I've kind of made a living out of doing those things.
Yeah.
Whereas if you went to the party,
I bet it wasn't even that good of party anyway.
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.
I still think about having a big sort of party now
and just sort of, like a reunion party.
So are you still in touch of her now?
No, not in touch.
I've sort of bumped into her around the way.
But I know, I wouldn't say that we're in touch.
She's, you know, by the way,
I think a very funny person.
I don't hope
there's no malice death
on my part
yeah
you know
I actually
to be fair
that night in the rain
got learned a lot
about you know
life
yeah
sometimes you're
you know
sometimes actually
the search for something
if I got to the party
what would have happened
if I'd found it
in my head
the ever
the thought
are we're going to get
to this party
it's going to be amazing
we have such a fun time there
it'll be incredible
we'll be allowed
into this fucking
the top tier
of friendship
in the fucking school, that would have happened.
Best case scenario that had told me to fuck off.
Worst case scenario, they'd have let me in.
And there'd have been some sort of awful ritual.
So it's sort of, yeah, in the end,
so the bigger boys would have duffed us up in the garden or something.
Yeah.
I know you think of it as a funny story,
but if you're trying to make that point,
don't then add even sadder details.
Right, it's about that time, Tommy B.
Yeah.
Tommy B.
Yeah.
Can I tell you what happened there?
I wanted to say it's about that time B
you know like in a hip-hop style
And then I added Tommy
And then I just fucked it
Yeah Tommy D
Yeah I know
Yeah
Hmm
Memories huh
Nothing hurts more than you
Oh memory road
And straw down here
Hey there's a hill here
Should we try and climb it
It's just a bad memory friend
But you know what
We climbed up it once and came down again
maybe we can do that again
truth about looking back is
sometimes you see things you don't necessarily want to see
but looking forward you have no idea what's going on
so reflection becomes easier to do
than whatever looking forward would be
some people say
if I could change this about my past I would
maybe the idea of being a chamber
made in the Edwardian time
Grote off across the bench or the little boy and I'll add it into the party.
Were any of those real, what are they dreams?
Well, the truth and matter is memories and dreams just slip into the same thing.
Something that might have happened once or something you may be dreamed.
Truth is, even the saddest memories can be something you jocular.
So if you're going through a hard time right now, a tough time,
remember, at some point, shit will get easier.
Stuff will get better.
And you might just look back and go.
Remember that time.
Pulled that one out at the end.
Thank you so much.
That was fucking hell.
It's one of the darkest moments you've ever had on the podcast.
That story going into that closer.
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