Wolf and Owl - Leonardo Di Caprio, Jason Momoa and Fashion Regrets

Episode Date: April 27, 2026

Did Louis Walsh tell Tom to f*ck off? Could you be Romesh’s clothes buddy? And would he look good in a boiler suit? Plus, the Wolf and the Owl both share some deeply personal hot takes, while discussing best dad bods (Leonardo DiCaprio or Jason Momoa?) fashion regrets and Ben Shepherd. Send in your hot takes, confessions and dilemmas to [e-mail] Don’t forget to like and subscribe! A Ranga Bee Production in partnership with Platform Media. 00:00 - Intro1:10 - Fifa and procrastination04:37 - Sort your life out08:09 - Talent shows14:37 - Charity shops17:44 - Clothes buddy20:16 - Skinny Jeans22:28 - Rom’s blazer look26:33 - Fashion regrets27:07 - Dad bods29:54 - Hot takes36:00 - Marbles Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Anyway good to be here Good to see you Good to see you in my guy You're looking nice I like this jumper Thank you Can we talk about your We've both done the same thing this weekend.

Well, recently. Go on. Wardrobe Clear Out. Yes. Which we have to be careful about how we talk about, because I don't want to say I'm getting obsessed with complaints. Okay. But the last time we talked about clearing out our wardrobes,

there was a comment, and not that I read the comments, but I do read every one. I've not read the comments. Okay, me neither. But if I accidentally stumbled across this comment, and that can happen when you read them, is this comment said, you two are really losing touch. Wow.

See, I don't think that's... I think that's unfair. I've never been in touch. I've always been touching. Yeah. I've always liked to touch. It's been one of my biggest... Anyway, you cleared out your wardrobe.

Yeah. So, talk me through the process. About 65% on my wardrobe went. 65%? Yeah. A lot of it. A lot of stuff. I had other stuff to do.

I didn't want to do it. The other stuff was more pressing. This is because of procrastination. Yeah. And I thought it's either basically having a massive argument by sitting on FIFA for a whole afternoon and trying to win the Syria B, the Scudetto with Juventus.

Yeah. Which is... It's boring even to listen to it. How dare you? God knows how frustrating is to sit there while your husband plays it. She doesn't sit next to me. What do you do?

You come up here, come up here. Are you joking? I sometimes do do that. What? You sit with Lisa when you play. I don't sit... So me and the boys will have a FIFA tournament. course, of course.

And then we'll ask Lisa to come up and be a spectator. She comes and watches. Do you know that woman is a queen? She's a queen. I don't know the idea that the mother in that that woman does and she sat downstairs reading a book, reading a bit of Inna Blighton or whatever she's reading, right? Yeah.

So do you know her so well? Just sat there, just like, oh, this is my time. I've done, I've run the boys around. I've taken them to go, I've helped them with their homework. Romish is actually picking up some slack and he's doing a FIFA for tournament. Hey, I, you. Get up here.

We need someone to watch us. We need to bring some crisps and snacks. Bring some snacks and validation. Tell me I'm doing well and I'm a good boy. Uh-uh, not on the sofa. On Ramesh's lap. Sit on my knee, good girl. Yeah, anyway, she does, to be fair, she'll come up for about a minute.

No, 10 minutes. Ten minutes. That's like, that's a game. I know, but the boys want to see her. Okay, can I tell you that I know you're being deliberately facetious? Yeah. The whole point is, is it because Lisa doesn't like playing FIFA. Yeah.

Particularly. Do you know, I'd love to pay for her to have lessons so she gets sick. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that actually weird is that like so she get it off. So she get really ill and die. How did Lisa die? She, yeah, she has those things. Tom, Tom actually orchestrated it.

He pays. Tom insisted that she was doing it. nearly 24 hours of lessons a day and yeah she just died of exhaustion and then Tom what apparently pushed over the top is after all those lessons Tom walked into the room and said Romish says he's quite up for a bit and she killed

herself by God you should have seen her ultimate team before she passed it was incredible should have seen what she was unpacking eight legends eight legends in her team at the back so anyway the point is is to you know for her to come up and yeah

but what happens is every time we do that, then we all realize it's a terrible idea. Of course, yeah. Soccer fans, your chance to witness history is here. You can win tickets to the FIFA World Cup 2026 final thanks to Visa. All it takes is a BMO Visa credit card to enter. Sign up and enter at bemo.com slash contest. Contest rules apply. Anyway, so, so, so, so I had an afternoon and I was meant to be doing some other stuff. And as is my way, I wanted to put the other stuff. What was the other stuff? Are you not allowed to talk about what the other stuff is? Yeah, I've been for like the last two years writing this book.

And I can't write it. I'm struggling. So I sit down and go, chapter one, who is Tom Davis? And then go, oh, right, I'm pretty sure that I, if I have a coffee that I'll make me feel like I can do this. Maybe I should have a bit more breakfast. I'll have another bowl of cereals and I'll go and do that. And then I ended up doing a wardrobe and getting around like 65% of stuff. I just, do you know what?

So I met the woman who does. sort your life out, Dinny, who does that with Stacey Solomon, incredible woman. I really have lost touch, yeah. Go on. You didn't call her in to help you out. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I met her at a thing. We were at a thing, and she's one of, it's one of my favorite shows that. I love it.

What was the thing? Oh, it was like a function thing. Yeah. What's going on? Can I tell you why I keep picking up on this? Why? Because you're so needlessly specific about most of the things you talk about. Then when you go vague, you could never lie to Catherine.

No, no, no, I'm an awful liar. You just get so vague. Okay, here we go. It was at Lorraine. We were doing Lorraine. I was doing Lorraine. She was doing this morning, I think. Right, okay.

I lost my mind when I met her. Because she's, I'm a big fan. There's a little corridor with the dressing room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's a very small set up now, which is quite sad in a sense. Also, still Ben Shepard there. Yeah.

He's got away, Ben Shepard. He's just smooth all over, is there. Yeah. But the good thing about him is he doesn't know it. Oh, shut. Oh, Ben. I'm joking. Ben is a darling.

The reason I said that is I do love Ben Shepard. I've got nothing bad to say about him. But I went on this morning. I've never been invited on this morning. You've been on at loads. I've not been on it loads. I've been on it like twice. Three times, four times.

The validation maybe I need is to go on this morning. Yeah. I saw you and Josh talk about it the other week. Just Riddick come on your podcast. Yeah. He literally was smashing it. Oh, he loves this morning. Yeah.

I wouldn't say I love this morning. morning, but I don't mind it. Anyway, I put my hand on Ben Shepard's back for a photo. Wow. Like with, you know, and I said, your back is like sheet rock and you just went, I know. Wow. You expect that? Yeah. But if I had that back. Yeah. If I had that back, I don't

think I'd ever wear a top. Yeah. My back is. I'd be sat on the this morning sofa facing away from camera. My back, if I could describe it as like a bus chair. You know, a bus seat? A bit hairy, quite soft. Yeah. Yeah. Or a train seat. Yeah. That's what it's like. But yeah. So, um, so

I met this Denny woman, right? Lost your mind. I lost my mind. I was like, and she was quite like, wow, I didn't know you, you know, and I was got a picture together. Yeah, it's a big guy getting very excited. Panting and going mad like the dog from pets life. A big dog when he loses his head.

God, that is the energy you've got. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's very much me. So we, so yeah, we started chatting and I said, oh, look, you know, my wife keeps saying to me about getting rid of stuff. Yeah. And she's like, you've got to basically do a thing. If you haven't worn something for a year, just get rid. You get rid.

And if you just got to look at everything quite critically and go, is that saying I want anymore? So, and I just literally took that energy and I went into, and it was one of the, I would say, I found it more fun than FIFA. I went in, it was, do you know what I actually tried to teach you? I was Simon Cowell on X Factor. And every bit of clothes was a young person coming in with a dream. Yeah.

Or like a singer, you know, some stuff was like, you know, I'd look at it. and go, oh, this discons it, and then I put it on and go, so it basically sort of exploited it for a while until there's no use to you anymore. Yes. And then did you pick out the ones that got mental health issues and make a funny clip out of them? That's what I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All my clothes.

Did you compare all the dark stuff to a young Stevie Wonder? It's such an insane time that was not. Oh, it's fucking mad. You know, like, when you see clips from back there, it's not, really it's not that long ago. Yeah. But then you watch the sort of shit that was being said, I cannot fucking believe it. Do you know also the person I can't stand of all of it

is that sniveling, it will twirp, Louis Walsh. Louis Walsh, I can't stand him. He's died. Do you know what? If I could go and misfits with anyone, it would be Louis Walsh. Really? I mean, that is the mismatch of the century. I'm looking forward to the way,

opening the papers of Sunday morning. Louis Walsh dead. Just you carrying his severed head. Maybe what I'd have to... If Louis Walsh sparked you out, fuck. Wait, it could happen. Heavyweight boxing. Yeah, one person.

He's a well-to-weight at best. Like, maybe, like, yeah, maybe I should train someone up who could fight Louie Walsh. Maybe I could train Josh Witten up to fight Louis Walsh. Yeah, that's good shout. I have, you know, as you know, I'm in the era of my life now. I'm trying to not dismiss anybody as a helmet.

Yeah. Louis Walsh is, I'm sorry, man. But he is... Yeah. I mean, he's... A pretty... It's a dodgy guy, right? Yeah, he's a gross little child.

Yeah. Did I ever tell you the boy band story yet? No. Okay. So, um... I know it's good because you stroked your beard. Years and years ago. Like...

You're going to light a pipe. Yeah. I was about 16. Yeah. 15, 16. And me and my friend used to go into London quite a lot. Yeah. My friend Sam Walker.

He was... His dad had a shops in Common Garden. Yeah. Selling like retro stuff. Sam was one of my best friends growing up. Yeah. What sort of stuff for Sam into? Why are you talking so much about Sam now?

Because he's a really good guy. Okay, fine. And he's actually, I'm reminiscing, thinking about a lovely person in my life. So, very important. Do you ever think about him now? Yeah, what is I? Yeah, yeah. It's a sad thing.

We've kind of lost touch on. We've actually got back in touch recently. Oh, okay. It's quite quite, I actually sort of almost inspired by you on Michael McIntyre's whatever show. Oh, yeah, meeting Dylan. Dylan, yeah. I sort of was jealous of that, so I sort of tried to get, so sad.

Try to get touch with Michael McIntyre. Yeah. And then, yeah, it's not quite, as anyway. So just recreate it in an empty theater. Just how the Michael McIntyre look alike Turned up his work I couldn't get Michael Maganxas We got that

That guy who does David Brent David Brent David Brent Do you remember him Just a bit Why's he doing that dance I don't know Tom

Do you remember Sam Walker Damn Dan Dan da da la la da God I'd love to make You know that would be my dream To make a shiny floor show That was that fucking

at bass that eggy. Anyway, so Sam Walker. But Sam was a really like a good-looking kid. He was like angelic looking,

good-looking, you know. Force strong hands. Yeah, yeah, yeah, good body. He used to go

one of the first people I ever knew really, like Ben Shepherd. Yeah, fuckable. Yeah. Well, this is,

so. Maybe his neck smelt wood. He was smoked delicious. So me and Sam used to, we go out drinking a lot,

like around, like his dad had the shop. So we used to go around common garden right underage drinking yeah and we're in this

bar one this one night and this guy and to this day I'm not sure if it was or it was but in my head it was this guy who's Irish he comes over to us

and he starts chatting to Sam and he's like oh you know you'd be um have you ever thought about being in a boy band you'd be great

in a boy band you'd be brilliant and Sam sort of like I can't really sing he said oh don't worry about that and I was basically like at the time you know he's talking to Sam

I start going oh I can sing a bit and I'm some songs because I used to have, I think we talked about this before, I used to write sort of songs when I was younger. And he was like, oh, I made, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he sort of got his arm around Sam and I'm sort of like, yeah, no, no, I could, you know, I like,

because probably more than he does, like singing. And I'm sort of, I'm sort of, I'm sort of, yeah, by the way, quite a dick move by you. No, but Sam wasn't really interesting. Yeah, by the way, Sam at the time. Sam has been presented with an opportunity. But Sam was a semi-pro footballer. He didn't want to be a fucking boy band.

Okay. You know, if anything, Sam was going, oh, he's, you know, and then Sal gets up to go to the toilet and I sit next to the guy who sort of recalls a little bit and I said oh you know I could probably like remember one of my songs and sort of chat here and he would

would you just fuck off and get a drink and let me do make some work and it was like really angry to this day I swear it was Louis Walsh I might yeah the sounds of time Jesus fucking Christ it's such a long story and it's not definitely Louis Walsh

yeah but I was drunk That's the story about Sam Walker, you mad fuck. Yeah, but, no, no, yeah. It's a guy that might have been Louis Walsh, told you to fuck off. And because of that, Louis Walsh is a horrible little fucking troll. No, no, he's a horrible troll for a number of reasons. Okay. But I swear it was him.

I can't sit here and say it was definitely him. But I think it was. Okay. Yeah. You're talking like, you're talking 30 years ago now. Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. I was drunk and, look, I've had all my brain with many different, substances since that time.

So I'm like... What happened to Sam after that? Oh, Sam came back and... Yeah, he... No, I don't mean immediately. I mean, what's Sam gone on to do? He said he'd be... Oh, yeah, we had the stalls together

doing T-shirts and T-shirts. Yeah. So anyway... I've probably got some of my happiest memories with him. He's one of these. We did all our first lad's holidays together. Yeah, he's a good guy. So weird for you to really

eulogise about this guy. I've not heard you mention once before ever. I know, yeah. But you know what? That's the thing I'm trying in life is try to, like, remember those times, remember the, because you know what?

The sad thing is about life, as you grow, as you move forward, right? Sometimes things happen in your life, and the last instinct of your, your relationship with someone can come almost the overpowering thing. Actually, you then forget about the happy time.

You forget about the sweet times. Yeah. So what I'm trying to do now is trying to go, oh, actually, you know what? That was the best moments. Like my mum's always, it's like, You have friends for a reason, friends for a season, friends for life. That's the thing.

Yeah. You have these three things. And sometimes you have these friends. They're there for a reason. They're there to be your crutch for a tough time. And then you lose touch for whatever reason. It doesn't mean it was a bad thing. Yeah.

You know, sometimes it's nice to think about it. Really sweet. Really sweet. And honest. Even for you. I'm trying to be more of an open book. Yeah. Yes, please.

Open even more. So anyway, so I'm doing that the wardrobe. The wardrobe. Yeah. Clearing it out. You know, I've got stuff for Vinted that I'm selling. And I've got stuff that's going to a charity shop. So I've got two really neat piles.

Catherine comes in. How are you determining what goes to charity and what goes to Vinted? There's stuff where I'm like, you know, I just think no one was going to buy that. A charity shop, it just feels like, I took some stuff to a charity shop a few weeks ago, which was nice bits, went into the charity shop because I chatted them sometimes. And they're not doing enough? Well, I like to, because you know not when you give bits to charity. Oh, just sort of look at all.

Oh, fuck, you know. Four coffees. Get the door, Joan. Get the door. I'll be back in a bit because I've actually got two loads. I couldn't bring all the stuff in the first go. So, seeing about an hour. No, but you know, like, you're almost invested.

Once you've given the stuff in, you want to see if it sells. No? Really? No, I don't think so. I don't think. When you give it to a charity shop, you then go back and check on the stuff. I want to make sure the stuff I've given is, you know, they'll pop in and go out, you know, how to...

Oh my gosh, they don't even get... See, they're not even only seeing you when you're dropping stuff off. You're asking for a fucking update on the inventory. Yeah, but otherwise, you just go... How's the stuff moving, girls? As those night care's gone, I just... You know, those Reeboks classics, size 12. Yeah.

You're the only one of your size in the town. Sorry, I couldn't get the dog shit out of those trains. How did you get on with those shows? Did people mind the skitters? And you get on with those curving, climbing pants. Sorry about the gusset, it would be in a bit broke. Anyway, no, I'd pop in. But I popped in, there was like a pair of trains that I'd given to him.

And I'm like, and they put them up for $8.000. I said, hey, yeah, you'll get more than $8 for them. I'm giving that price gun. But so with vinted, I'm like, yeah, there's bits of vinting. I'm just like, okay. Are you packaging them up and sending? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We and Catherine do it together.

And then what will you do, donate the money to charity? Well, yeah, I mean, that charity's called Catherine. She'll sell stuff and then, yeah, I don't, I've never seen any of it. The problem with selling stuff on Vinted? Yeah. Because I've done a similar thing. Yeah. Of, like, clearing out.

I don't think I've cleared out 65%. I've got rid of a lot of stuff. And, like, where people go, like, I'm not a hoarder, but I've kept stuff for years and years and years. I'll never wear again. because, you know, body changed or whatever or you just go out. Taste change. Yeah.

Times change. Yeah. But then I think it's, everyone seems to have so much stuff now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing.

The truth is we should be, in today's day and age, we should be considering our purchases more quickly. Yeah. Carefully. But do you, you, you've, it's pretty easier for you to make a friend that you could swap clothes with. Like, you know, you, because. Oh, no, you're, you're a little bit, sort of smaller.

You're, what, 16. two. Six foot dead on. Exactly. That's like average height. So literally you could, you could throw a stick out in Covent Garden and meet 20 people

that you could like share clothes with. What's written on the stick? Do you want to share clothes with me? I wouldn't, I don't think I'd never thought of that. I've been a clothes buddy. Yeah. Mine would have to be like Greg Davis or Steve Merchant.

I mean, all three of you've got very similar stars. I think there's three people who've got completely different stars. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, I don't, yeah. I mean, I just don't know how that would go down. No.

I should mean, Greg aren't that far away. From style-wise? Yeah, I think he wears some nice bits, Greg. Greg Davis wouldn't fucking wear what you're wearing now. Are you mad? You think Greg Davis is going to wear that jacket? 90% of people wouldn't wear what I'm wearing. I take a risk every day I walk out of the house.

That's my extreme sport. Do you know, have you read this thing about like, not read this thing, but this thing about how, I thought you talked about in one of the live shows, about how you address if you didn't have embarrassment. This. No, but what I mean by that is,

like, Andre 3000, he, there's a line on one of his songs was like, thank you for giving me some shy bones in my body. And then he goes on to say,

because if he didn't have them, the way he would dress would be like, so out there. And he already dresses quite out there, right? But there's so many things, there's lots of things I'd wear if I wasn't to.

Would you go like for, what's his, Like a boiler suit? Yeah, but I think... Dungarees. Dungarees, I keep on having a handker into wear a pair of car. Me too. You could wear a boiler suit.

I can't wear a, but I've never in my... When I used to work on site, right, used to have some jobs, like if there was asbestos or so, you'd have to wear, like, boiler suits. Never got one that feared. It always be ankle swingers up my, like, cutting my balls into, sort of like, pulling my shoulders down.

Yeah. It was like, but I think a boiler suit, I think I knew... There's anybody out there that can make a boiler suit for somebody who's 6, 7, and hench. Yeah. Or file pod at gmail.com, please. I'd wear it on stage, actually, I think. Yeah, you should do.

Dave Chappelle wore a bonus in this. Anyway, sorry, we've interrupted you. How long we've been talking about that? It's one fucking story. So anyway, so I get rid of stuff, and then Catherine genuinely was like, she got in and she was like, number one. At first she was like, oh, yeah, you know,

how's a book going? And I'm like, I don't know, I've done this. And she was actually, wow, this is amazing. This is incredible. to get rid of all this stuff. The stuff that I've been holding on for like, we've been together 14 years that I've been holding on for, you know, jackets.

I had a big blue t-shirt that I wouldn't get rid of. It's like, it was probably a size 4XL. Yeah. She was like, you're never going to hopefully be that big again. But I was like, it's just, it's cozy to wear. And she's only worn it for like six, eight years. I was like, but you never know. And, you know, big blue's gone.

He went to charity, actually. Right. I mean, a six-year-old blue t-shirt, you're not selling that on vinted. that's mad I imagine we're going to get flooded with emails and people go fucking hell got my absolute mouth watering

at the thought of that six year old blue t-shirt the top I was talking about 4XL all the next guy get it on vintage then the next door like pulled out and my head used to be like bigger like a mastiff

um anyhow so she was very happy about the fact I was getting rid of all this stuff yeah we carted from house to house but then this week I've then gone I actually I've cleared out So I sort of restocked and rebranded the Tom Davis look And brought some new bits.

Have you changed your look? No, do you know what? I had 12 pairs of skinny jeans and Juggins. Like, I had a pair, I don't know if, you know,

I've wore them with you when we were out. It had like rips. And then it also had like, on the knees it had like patches. And they were black. But they were, I tried them on. Did you try them on this weekend?

Yeah, yeah, I tried them on. I should take some bits. So tight. And like, even, and I've lost timber. I've lost, you know, ions five, six stones since I wore those. They were still tight,

but even my gut nails hanging over it. I was like, Christ, what was I thinking? And I'm built like an ostrich who's had a bear put on its top. Like, I have ostrich's legs and a bear's top torso. I was like,

I looked like Johnny, who's the character, Johnny Bravo? Oh, yeah. I was like, so I got rid of all the skinny jeans. They've gone to charity. It's amazing to me that the least flattering comparison you make is to

notoriously hench Johnny Bravo. But they've gone to charity, so hopefully it's like an old rocker who's sort of six foot seven he wants to So you got rid of all the jeans? Like loads of stuff that I'm like I just won't wear anymore. And then you went and replaced it all. Not all of it.

In one shopping spring. No, in a week of online buying. I have stuff now where I go, okay, that looks okay. That's like, you know, there's a few places where I go, I look better in that stuff. Yeah. And what did Catherine say when you...

That was a bonus contention. She's like, you've just got rid of those stuff when you bring more in. Yeah, why did you? You know what? There's some part of me that brought in because I might be able to get rid of more. Because I'm right... You didn't say that to that.

No, no, no, no. But I feel like a bit like Pep Guardioli, you know, like when he has a big cell and he's like making a new team. So you're redoing your whole wardrobe, basically. Not redoing the whole thing. Well, you're changing. Yeah, yeah, I'm changing up. Age-wide, like, I just think there's a look that looks better on me than the one.

Why was I holding on to 12 pairs of skinny jeans? I don't know. Yeah. I wish I could have worn them one more time with you actually now. Maybe I'll go to Cherry Shop and find out. Do you know what we should do? We should do it. We should do a day out.

Yeah. Like our own stag do, but it's just two of us. And we're only allowed to wear stuff like that. Yeah, that would you go for the stag chag. As I said it, I thought, why would we want to do that? I like it. What's terrible idea? Where did you go?

Where did we go? By the way, nobody else would know we're doing that. So you just go, oh, look at those two. It would be funny. It would be funny for like five minutes. And then we're wearing that for the rest of the day. It doesn't make it. I don't know why I said it.

You know what, if we could put you in one of those little blazers you used to wear. Do you know what? Sometimes I think about it. My look for fucking ages, jeans. Yeah. I think like Fred Perry. kind of... Polo.

What they're called? Sandals. Not sandals. What they called? Fred Perry Sandals. No, Fred Perry, uh, fuck, you know, what they...

The little canvasy shoes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like boat shoes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, little sailor shoes. Jeans. A t-shirt with... Quite skinny jeans as well. Yeah, t-shirt with some sort of logo on that.

Yeah, yeah. And then a blazer. Yeah. And I thought that was a... I thought, I thought, I thought that was a... fucking look. You did think it was a flex. You used to think...

I remember I saw you once before you went on stage putting your jacket on and you're like, kind of like... Oh, fuck off. Let's go and make him love. I remember once I'm wearing... I will never forget it.

Not I'll never forget it. I will forget it soon, probably. Do you know what I mean? It's headed that way, mental-wise. But I wore a Super Mario T-shirt and a blazer. I never... I never...

I never... I went through a phase of wearing 80s t-shirts, you know like 18 I've got a night ride on there and shit like that have you? I've got a like a Goodfellow's t-shirt on. Oh well that's cool. I mean that's cool. Yeah. And it's so cool that I, yeah,

you've zipped it right up. No, no, no. But you know that you're wearing a goodfellar's t-shirt. That's quite a story. Yeah. Yeah. But I do have a problem with this whole thing of like look at us now. There's a good chance in five years we'll look back at this and go, can you believe what we're having?

I don't know if we will now. I think the looks, I just like, like now weirdly I look at this and just go this is probably me going into not old age but everything I'm wearing is just comfortable I'm not even thinking of it

yeah yeah yeah you're right what are you talking about? No no relax and comfortable we're both wearing comfortable travel travel you've not settled into your comfortable this is not okay it might be comfortable yeah but no what I'm saying is this is more comfortable than wearing a pair of fucking

Juggins no true do you know what I mean and like I'd wear that and a really tight t-shirt like there's pictures of me that I genuinely look at and think oh my God what was I one of the one of the issues with men I think

men like us is we get when we put on a t-shirt we get carried away with how it looks across here yeah don't really give enough thought to how it sort of just looks generally yeah so many photos of me from like even when I started doing stand-up where I'm wearing quite a snug t-shirt

and I can't believe that in the moment I thought it was okay to go out like that yeah but this is right but also maybe now. And that's not a style thing. That is a, fuck it, I don't know what it is, physique blind thing. But also, do you not find now that when you look at stuff,

like I still have a problem where I look at, like, if I'm buying saying like, A-SOS or whatever, and buying, like, I'll look at it on a model and think, oh, man, I look cool. And then I get it and it's just, I'm right, I don't know. Like, that's not the look. Swimming shorts, I brought some swimming shorts recently, which are the, they're the biggest, that's the biggest curve.

I do want to say, swimming shorts, they are, I actually think, they are the least flattering item of clothing Which way do you go If you have got a stomach And a dad bod, which we both have

Right I mean, I've said No, we have, I'm joking, I'm joking, I don't know what's going under the jumper

I know you had a six-pack For a while No, I didn't When you did the marathon You were in a fucking No, I wasn't No, I wasn't Well, anyhow, alas

Anyway, we've both got Dadbods Yeah, like, so And by the way, I'm clinging on to DadBod It's going to be a point where DadBod is going to be aspirational

to me What is Dad Bod up against? Well, the standards of Dad Bod have changed, actually. Yeah, but it's a bit of poor. I saw, there was a picture of Jason Mamawa. Oh, fuck off. Right. And somebody said, this is the physique that people like the Dad Bod.

And he's just go, I'm sorry, there's a fucking unaccepted. Can I say, like, he's incredible, Nick. He's incredible. There's no way. There's no way. You don't think he's nutty? I think he probably, I think he might be now. Because I actually think now he's getting into a place where he looks.

I look at him and go, yeah, you look, you know, you've got a bit of a gut. Yeah. Because you're like in your four Guinnesses that you have to have every day. But I think, yeah, of course, mate, you go back and look at him as aquam. All of them are. Yeah. And they should be open about that. But Jason M.O. is not a dad bod.

No. And it's... I mean, he is a dad and he has a body. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, that's... That's true. I would say that's true of most dads of the world. But what I'm saying is, you can't start escalating the standards of dad bodod.

No. Wasn't it like Leonardo DiCaprio, who I don't think he even is a dad. No. He had the original, like there's a picture of him in Kahn or something, and he's getting out of a boat and he's got a little tummy, and he sort of, you know,

everyone was like, oh, Leo's got a dad bod. I think one of the first times I ever heard, that was what it was. Yeah. But, um. Do you know, by the way, just, as a,

talking about Jason Momoa, who's, do you know, is Adam Rickinson, Rixon? Adam Rixon. He plays Ritcher. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. He, I like him. I like it. I love Reacher. I like him. I actually enjoy the guy. He's like, he's gone from like being quite a sort of like felt like a quite a chill presence on social media.

Like, do you see the fight? Yeah, but there's no. Yeah. And then since then, it's almost like he's just gone. Oh, actually, instead of just sort of like trying to sort of fight against this, I'm going to just go into complete insanity. I know. Some of his videos now, I'm just like, I kind of actually find it quite for a Hollywood superstar.

I find it actually got, oh shit. Like he's just, he's just, he's just, fucking out there now. I think we should start putting ourselves out there. I'd love to. I think a lot of the time when we talk on this, we're being measured. Yeah.

So just like, for the purpose of this, just say one, like just put yourself out there. Like a hot take. Okay, sometimes I wish, like, had a real nice,

long kiss with a boy. Like, well, you know, not a boy now, but like a man, maybe, and like a good, you know,

just to see if I liked it. Is that true? Yeah. Yeah. I was on the train the other day. You'd pretty tell me you didn't kiss someone. No, I didn't kiss somebody. I love the idea of that.

You're just getting off the train, just turning some guy and just going. No, but I saw a guy. It's a bald guy. Oh, sorry, this is bad what I'm saying now. Yeah. Like ripped. Yeah. Moustache. Moustache, as you'd say.

Yeah. dressed really well and I think I fancied him yeah I find that all the time yeah I look back right and like if if I'd have been

like I could imagine yeah I can imagine getting up with it yeah but that's kind of do you know what I look back that's not gay is it

no I don't know but what like I look back right and I remember like the first lad's holiday when it went on right I became obsessed with this lad from Leeds.

Right. Like, the first night we got out there, we went to a karaoke bar, and he was on stage singing the greatest love of all, right? Right. He had long hair. Yeah. And I remember just,

we all walked in, and I was like, wow, and I love that song. Yeah. I love Whitney singing it. But I'd arguably say that if you've been there, this guy, absolutely, I wouldn't say he's as good,

but he was incredible to see. Yeah. And all my mates was like, what do you have him, mate, we're going to get a fishbow, and I was like, shh,

shh, and I just, and then I just made it my way, my work, I was just gonna make friends with this guy. Right. And whether, all my, I ended up spending more time with him. Than any, I was his wingman. I was sort of like, you know, lurking around.

Yeah. I sort of head over heels for this guy. Yeah, I don't think that's that unusual for a guy to fall in love with another guy. Yeah, yeah, but in a situation on that. But I was like, but I was, but I was, but I'm, even now, I think like, you know, I still have that. I don't know if it's like a, you know, sometimes you meet someone, he's going, wow, this person's fucking cords. Yeah, what was that a person's name?

Ramesh, I don't know. No, no, what was that? Toby. Toby. Yeah. So, I think, if you'd have just told me the story about Toby, I'd get it's an interesting one off. Yeah.

But having also heard what you said about Sam Walker, I think this might be a pattern of behaviour. Yeah, I think it is. Yeah. I think you just regularly fall in other people. And I've got to be honest with you, it's slightly cheapens what we have. No, it doesn't. I think ours is a very, I think ours is more health.

Because you know what, like, I think, like, you, if in that, world, you'd be like the sort of love that, you'd be my notebook, love. Right. You're the person that I sort of go, oh, no, that's it now. I think if we were a couple, that'd be it. I'd be. I think we'd be a great couple. Yeah.

I really do. I do, yeah. And while we're doing, like Tom and Rom, sort of coming around for dinner. Tom Rom. Yeah. Rom Tom. Yeah. I like him, but he's a bit annoying, isn't it?

And what are who we're talking about in that guy? Okay, what are we doing hot takes? Yeah. I think I would prefer it if Lisa has. had a cock. Wow. No. Can you just click that back at me?

What's your hot tag? I don't think I have one. I don't know why I asked you for it. Let me think. What you fucking knew? Absolutely. No, because we just started talking about, you know. Do you pick up dog poo every time you're out?

Yeah. Okay. Oh, you were thinking you're going to get me on that. We obviously didn't. You obviously didn't, then. No, that wasn't too sure. Let me think. So you're very measured.

Why? Well, I came straight out. That was a... Yeah, I know, but I can't think of it. You asked me what was a hot take, and I was like, well, okay, this is something... There, boom. Whereas now you're measuring what you're saying. No, because I can't think of something.

You've got to just, just, I want you to take a deep breath in. A bit like you did with me in a meditation. Okay. I want you to picture yourself of Adam Richardson. I'll count you in. I want you to close your eyes and then to give us a hot take. One, two, three. Hot take.

I'd really love to eat a rack of ribs. Wow. Wow. Wow. That's big. I don't think I'm going to. As a devout. Vegan? Yeah. I just think it looks so delicious.

Like the whole theatre of it, you know? I went to Mildred's the other day. Shout out Mildred's. In fact, I think we had this dish. Yeah, it was, yeah. They do the corn ribs. Yeah, they're incredible. And it's supposed to give you the same.

It's not spaced it. That doesn't say it. But what I mean is it's the same theater, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. You know like those messy meals where you have a big rack of ribs and it's all over your chops and all that. Yeah.

And then you know, like when they do the seafood broil? Yeah. When they just come and fucking empty the bag out. And everyone's like picking fruit like fucking animals. Yeah. I like that. You can't do that with like boiled veg, can you? No.

Chinese food. I love that for that. How about you eat a rack of ribs? Yeah. And then I French kiss you. And then I've sort of got the. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

We've both done our dreams. Yeah. That'd be nice. Where would I, if we were, if we were, I don't know if. This is okay what we're talking about. But if we were to fully snog, where would your hands go, do you think? I would just run a low bit of your back.

I'd bring you in, so you felt like I was in control. And then who would lean back? Would I lean back? No, I'd lean forward, I think. Obviously. If we both lean back, we're not kissing anymore. No, but I come into you. I come down to you rather than you coming up.

I mean, it feels weird hypothetically talking about something that could happen right now. We're close enough. Jeff versus Taco Truck Salsa, whether it's Verde, Roja, or the orange one. For Jeff, trying any salsa is like playing Russian roulette with a flamethrower. Luckily, Jeff saved with Amazon and stocked up on antacids, ginger tea, and milk. Habaniero? More like habanier, yes. Save the everyday with Amazon. Tom? Yeah.

Oh God. It's about that time. Could you please take us out of the app? Mickey had a bowl of marbles full to the brim. Must have been 100 marbles in there. Slowly as time went on though he'd play marbles, throwing the marbles to hit another marble and a marble would fall under the sofa or roll.

or roll outside the back door, 100 became 90, 90 became 40. Before you know it, there was only six marbles in his jar. Mickey came to his bowl and was like, wow, there's only six marbles. What happened to the 100? He turned to his mum and said, Mum, wherever all the marbles go on?

She went on, well, you played with them. They've rolled away. And he was like, but where have they rolled? They said, I don't know. They could be anywhere. He felt sad for a while. thinking about the marbles. And then he started thinking about the time that he rolled a marble,

a big green one as big as your fist. And it hit six other marbles and they all scattered. The colours shining in the light, flying from part of the room, from part of the room. He remembers laughing and joking. Look back into the bowl and picked up all six. Roll them as quick as he could as they pinged off walls and other things. before you know it he had an empty bowl

and Mickey sat there and he thought wow I've got an empty bowl of marbles but you know what I've got a head full of memories and I guess that's the thing in life all we're doing is throwing those marbles out there and hoping they hit another thing

and if you worry about too much about the missing marbles and the ones that have gone maybe you forget about actually the fun that you had with those marbles so today go out and throw your marbles against the floor. Don't worry about where they're going. Just worry about one thing. Wherever they end up, you'll do them justice with a happy memory. Really, really nice. Thank you. Yeah, really nice.

Yeah, based on a true story. Yeah, I thought that as you were saying it. Thank you so much for listening and watching to the Wolf and Al. To the Wolfenel? Yeah, that's what we call it. Wolf out. Well, no, no, but listening and watching doesn't matter. If you go listening and watching too, Oh, don't ask me about that. Well, no, it's just, you're listening to, but we're not watching to. Listening.

That's where I confuse myself. Listening, uh, yeah, listening. Listening to and what, that's how I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, listening to me. Wolfadpod at gmail.com if you want to send us some emails. We'll be back with an email special very soon. Peace out, motherfuckers. Love.