Wolf and Owl - S10 Ep 25: Europlugs & A Very Sexy Rom

Episode Date: May 22, 2024

We’re talking… international time differences, two-prong plug adapters, Benjamin Franklin, Apple addictions, the seventh sexiest Owl in the UK, TikTok trolls, night-time toothaches, dog photo collages, theatre ghosts and the tricky tightrope of dealing with hecklers. Plus, an email question about a second chance with a childhood sweetheart. For questions or comments, please email us at [e-mail] - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com A Shiny Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Expect killings red spilling and flesh ripping impressive in it the death bringing his head spinning just kidding every word in this songs about two grown men dressed up as a bird and a dog Welcome welcome to the wolf and our podcast Ramesh Ranganathan Tom Davis. I'm not sure how loud to talk because it's six in the morning. I'm at home. It's an insane time. It's seven in the morning. I'm in European time. It's actually hour in front.

What is the score by the way, with time like this? Like, the time thing. If he smokes a joint or something. No, no, no, no, but like, what is the score? If you know like, why is it an hour in front?

Is it just to be different and edgy? Or is it like, is there a point to it? Well, first of all, you're assuming that the time that you're in is different, which means that you think our time is the default. I mean, you know, other people are on a level with us. Their argument will be that we're being different and edgy. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, no, no, no, no, but right, I just mean with everyone in general, why don't we just have a time? It, no, no, no, but I just mean with everyone in general. Why don't we just have a time? It's like, look, if I'm honest with you, when you travel, there's a lot of stuff that just gets you go. But the time thing I find very annoying. Yeah. Yeah. Time thing. What is it for you? Time thing.

Foreigners not speaking that English. Foreigners are like, I don't know. If I'm honest with you, I have no understanding why there's different languages. Yeah, they're weird foods. Foreigners are like, if I'm honest with you, I have no understanding why there's different languages. Yeah, they're weird foods. They're, yeah. Oh, wait, wait, look, look, look, the food I enjoy, I like their food.

Their languages, their general smell. No, no, it was like, right, no, plugs. I don't understand why I've got to have different plugs. That's the thing that drives me insane, bruv. Like, European plugs are the worst invention ever. The two prongs. Okay, I was about to go into fitted on you to pronged on you. But I would say that the two prong thing sort of secure secure sort of the the connection wise. It's a bit funky, isn't it?

Yeah, man. They've got it's like, it's a half-hearted handshake. That's what it is. Three prong, you're getting a-hearted handshake, that's what it is. Three-prong, you're getting a nice solid handshake. Two-prong, you can, but you put an Apple charger, a Mac charger in a two-prong, the two-prong's not gonna fucking minerals to hold it. Like, it's literally just so like, I can't do this, I can't do this.

But it's constant, you've got to prop something up against the, and you've got to put, you've got to put it in upside down as well for some reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's insane. I'm like why didn't we all get together like big massive European thing like a worldwide thing where everyone gets together and go what we're doing about plugs, are we going to have plugs? Why did some people have them different? Well, I would say that we're unable to be in a situation where we're not going to war with each other. So the idea that we'd all get together and decide what plugs we're going to have feels like life is. No, no, if you go back in history, when, um,

whatever his face was, he went into electricity, right? Was it Bell, was it? He did the phone. Who's the other fella? Or was it Newton? Did he do electricity? I think so. Let's have a look. I think so. Let's have a look. Inventor of... This might be the dumbest fucking thing ever. Benjamin Franklin. Benjamin Franklin. Where was he from? Americans? I actually got these on a dollar bill.

American polymath. Benjamin Franklin is most credited for discovering electricity in 1752. In an experiment he... I did know this story. In an experiment he attached a wire to a kite in a thunderstorm which showed that lightning consists of electricity. However, despite this seminal experiment, no one person can be, I mean, you said experiment, you just sent a kite up, didn't you? However, despite this seminal experiment, no one can be, no one person can be discredited with discovering electricity. So go on, anyway so but what I say that for case important so right when big Benjamin Franklin came up with the electricity, right? Yeah, I think the clock there but anyway gone

With when he's got himself he's got that in his head and he's come to everyone He's our look this is gonna make the world a little bit better Surely at that point someone else should just come out and he's come to everyone, he's like, oh look, this is gonna make the world a little bit better. Surely at that point, someone else should have just come out and go, look, all the plugs are gonna be like this. Otherwise it's a faff when people travel, you go and see a friend in a different country. You know, obviously I'm guessing they're on galleons

and wooden ships back then, they're not on like P&O cruisers because planes haven't been invented. But my point being, right, it's like, actually, that's a plait of a literature is he on right do you need me for this podcast or do we just listen to you ramble on like a fucking stoner in a park I've not slept for about three days this is good delirious but my point being right is that it is a faff in it the silly little, yeah.

I never have one of those with me. I'm always lurking about a hotel reception at two in the morning trying to get one. Like it's, yeah. It's just, this is the book. When I've done the travel show, Miss Adventures, which last series is out very soon, but whenever I've done that the Realization and it happened because we go to so many different places the realization that's happened to many times is that we arrive

We're having a chat, you know on the first night of filming and then I go to my hotel room Say good night to everybody and then discover I have the wrong charger for the It's it's a it's a low point. It is a like, yeah. But you know, I think you know, the answer, you know, it's very difficult for Benjamin Franklin is not set up the car and then gone. Well, that's interesting discovery. But I need to think about what my apple with Apple chargers, you know, it's a it's a

by the way, Apple Apple reprix, by the way, they invent their charges with the different fucking cables and the different fucking heads that they have and they're all falling apart. And Mac charges are an absolute piece of shit, by the way. Mac charges constantly just falling apart. Yeah, it's a nightmare. And you can see how it's affected them

because they're, you know, the people have spoken and they are struggling, aren't they? Well, yeah, but we, we don't work with our feet when it comes to this many old Apple. All of my devices are Apple, I should just change to Samsung. I am so locked into Apple. I genuinely, by the way this is not an advert for Apple, I'm just saying just the way it's worked out. I am currently, I think I'm more in with Apple than I'm with like the laser and the kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If somebody, if some, everything, you get the one thing, then you go, well, I've got to get this, it's compatible with that. Now everything, I'm fucking, I've become like an automaton. I'm not one of the- You're with me, we're in an Apple cult. No, I'm in the nature, I'm in the, I'm fucking locked in, it's pathetic.

It is so bad. I don't even need any sale now. I don't even like, when I go and get an upgrade my iPhone or I get something, I don't even go in and go, oh yeah, is it one of the new options on this? I just literally walk in and go, give me the new iPhone. Please can I have the new thing that has one small change that there's barely any difference between the previous iteration but I'm still going to buy it because I'm a fucking mug. The Google new camera with where you can, which I think this is maybe one of the great, it's up

there with Franklin and Newton and all those other people. You've seen the new Google Pixel phone when you take a picture and you take five, and it'll take all of your bet, then it chooses the best facial expression from each of you. Yeah, I watch those adverts like I'm watching porn. It's an unattainable thing that I'll never do because I'm so locked in with Apple. Yeah, exactly. Apple could bring out a thing, which, oh, the new iPhone, it just makes calls now.

We've started to like, strip it right back, there's no camera, and I go, oh wow, that's cool. That's great, man. Whereas Google actually fucking- Having said that, it's not that bad, and I do. Google are reinventing the wheel, right? And they're doing that, and it's, and no one's even,

because we're also locked in with Apple. I think it's tragic, man. Yeah. I did a bit of stand up a while ago about people that use Android phones, right? It was from years ago. Anyway, we put the clip out again and it's gone like, I don't know, loads of people started sharing it. Anyway, I've now had to watch. You look at the comments and it's just people just going mad, just going, oh, because it's basically the point I'm saying in the clip

is sort of the opposite what we're saying is like You know just because you've not got an iPhone. You know you're not underground or edgy. Do you mean just? That's that's the gist of the clip and all these people scan well Enjoy your fat enjoy your phone that copies the ideas of the other companies five years later Romesh like just the people just going off about their, about the folk. You get trolled on. Yeah, but that's the thing now,

cause you're so invested in Apple and you're one of the cult that you are literally going to out to war. So, when did you jump over to the other side of the fence? Just now. I'm with you mate, no, no, no. Okay, yeah, but you said you're going to go your own way. I'm doing it, yeah, but you're a figurehead of Apple.

You've done Apple for Apple, right? I've certainly have, certainly have. of Apple. You've done adverts for Apple, right? No. What if I'd done an advert for Apple? I thought you'd done an advert on Twitter, wasn't it? Yeah, it was actually a much more reputable, decent company to have an advert for. I'll have you know. I've got some integrity, mate.

I advertise Twitter. OK? I've got principles. Which you've now left, right? Yeah, that was a bit controversial. Not controversial. I mean, just when I left, and I did it, I made a big song and dance about it as well. I did a tweet again, you'll never see me here again. You didn't quit, you didn't quietly leave. You left the party shouting, didn't you? Yeah. And then, and then Twitter actually got in touch with Flo to say,

What? Yeah, yeah. Well, because I've done an advert for them. And I, if a person that doesn't advert for them leaves like two years later, it's not, it's not the best, is it? They were very nice about it. They said, you know, is there something, is there something like flow forwarded me in the message again, is there something they can do? I said, yeah, change the entire culture of the whole app. That helped me out. It's funny now that everyone's spent years

trying to get their blue ticks. And now if someone has a blue tick, I really judge them. Yeah. Well, you have to, do you have to pay for blue ticks now? Is that right? You have to pay for blue ticks, yeah, yeah. Anyway, speaking of getting trolled, Tom, I just want to talk to you about something.

Now, before we get into this, I know what will happen is that you'll, even in this sort of tired state, because you're already filming, you'll launch into me. But let me just start this, frame this by saying, this is not a brag, I'm just pointing out something that happened that has been, dominated my social media, okay? And that is, that is this.

Some website has done a survey. Oh, God. Oh, my God. Some websites done a service. I've got to say, right? I know you're about to talk

about that. Literally at the moment, you're putting your bib on and sharpening your knife and fork because you're about to eat yourself. No, listen. All right.

So first of all, this is what you've just done is exactly what I said to you not to do. Right. It's exactly literally could not have been clearer about this. Right. So they've surveyed 200 people. Yeah. And they've come out with this list, an unhinged list, I think we can both agree, all right? For UK Sexiest Man Alive, right? This is the top 10. Number 10, Dermot O'Leary, okay? Number nine, Russ Cook. Number eight- Who's Russ Cook?

Sorry, who's Russ Cook? Hardest geezer. Oh wow, yeah, I just know him as that. I fucking call that, yeah. Number eight, Sam Thompson. Number six, Idris Elba number 5 Killian Murphy number 3 Garrah Southgate number 4 Garrah Southgate sorry number 4 3 Prince William number 2 Tom Holland number 1 Jeremy Clark

number 7 me okay now now I talked about this on my Radio 2 show and obviously this list is like math, right? Because... Yeah, but someone told me the other day that you have to put your name forward to get... No, that is no... Mate, fuck you. Fuck you. Right? Now look, I said this, somebody, I think Ola the comedian tagged me in a place game Well miss you made the top ten and I said and I genuinely mean this I'm not number seven in my road Right, and I did I genuinely believe that right? However, so obviously this is a joke listen. I talked about in the radio to show is not joke list though. It might We're not joking this but it's obviously

Your underplay in here right and it not a joke list, but it's obviously. Wait, wait, you know, the figure you're underplaying here, right? And it isn't a joke list. Is that different people find different people attractive. Sure. Sure. What you're about to say is, and I guess that most people you're going to go too fitted along Jeremy Clarkson, but you don't cause he's number one. No, I'm not.

A lot of people find him attractive. Yes. So with you. Yeah. But Tom, look, that Tom, whatever we say about different people can be found differently attractive. It's mad, okay? It is mad. Yeah, I mean, I find it insane that Tom Hardy isn't on that list, or Jason Statham, or Bradley Cooper, or whoever, but... Yeah, UK's sexiest men, right?

If I'm honest with you, and look, I like the kid, and I actually, I've maybe been a bit harsh on him. I find it in, yeah, that Sam Thompson's eight as well. Yeah. Yeah. So that list is mad, right? And I don't think, obviously, I think the list is mad. I think you've got more right to be there than some of the other people.

No. You're more of a catch. I'm telling you this now, I just want to get this out. Bro, bro, bro, by the way, if they're getting if they're getting, it depends what picture they're using, right? If they're using a picture of you from the Bafters, bro you look fit as fuck on the Bafters. I thought you were about to say they're using a picture of you from the back. Mate, your neck and neck apparently was really tight between you and Idris Elba. I saw. Well, okay, let me just say this, right?

I'm not saying this is a self-deprecating thing. I think there are many other ways that you can be attractive. Idris Elba and I should not be mentioning the same sentence, okay? You're putting your eyes. In an hour-long discussion about attractive men. And I'm not saying this to be self-deprecating. By the way, this is not so, a lot of people get in touch with me and go, Romesh, you've been too self deprecating. It's not self deprecating to say that you shouldn't be in the

same league as it yourself. Right. conversation about attractive. I know you shouldn't put yourself down. It's not putting myself down. Right. I bet you could put me Dermot at 10. Right? Yeah, Dermot should be Derm Yeah, Dermot should be, Dermot is a traditionally sexy bloke, right? And he's very sweet, he's very kind. Just everything about that dude.

He's got a lovely, amazing body. His energy is great, he does, all right, fucking hell, all right, relax. But he has. Who's in at nine, who's in at nine again? Nine is the hardest geezer. Oh yeah, I mean he should have been number one just for all the work he's done for charity. I get that because I sort of think like somebody that's willing to give up

that amount of time to raise money for other people is there much that's sexier than that? I don't think so. Do you know what I mean? More than the actual list I'm more interested about who the two hundred people are that they've asked. I think it's like on some sort of, I think it's a website for people that want to cheat. It's like a list.com. It's a weird website that they survey the people. Oh man. That is as well by the way. No, but that is showing that not only are you sexy

and they want to like, you know, have an affair with you, but also that you'll probably be keep in being sneaky and keeping secrets. Hmm. Hmm. I imagine that's, you know. Anyway, so now we've got this out of the way. I'm not being self-deprecating. I'm not saying I'm hideous. I don't want anyone to see that. I was proud of you. I messaged Martin, I messaged a few other people. I was just like, man, have you seen this? It's amazing. That's massive. Okay. Just stop, okay? Because you're deliberately going against... You know why I've brought

this up, okay? And you're being a malevol you know why I've brought this up, okay, and you're being a malevolent little prick in your hotel room, all right, okay? You've just got up, you've not talked to anyone else, and I'm getting unfiltered dickhead here, all right? Little malevolent fucking prick you're being now, right? Right, now now by the way guys you won't be able to see this Tom's laptop is on his belly and when he's

chuckling so much the screens wobbling up and down like one of those found footage movies anyway you know why this is on my belly there's a lovely desk over there but there's no fucking power. There's no plug subjects at this hotel. I know that. It's like listening to a stand-up routine from the 90s. Okay, so the reason I bring it up is I have been tagged in so many TikToks and so many posts. Basically every video is what a disgusting list of men and then they're going down each each one of the men right except for to be fair Idris is getting a lot of love obviously as you'd expect but apart from that I keep

killing getting like killings getting loads of love yeah obviously what a fucking hot guy yeah yeah yes Tom Yes, a lot of them are. Okay. Do you want me to go for all of them apart from me? Is that what you want to happen here? No, no. Look, I think Clarkson is... But he won it last year.

I think Clarkson, everyone knows he's sneaky as fuck, right? And I can see that some people would find him attractive. Tom Holland is a sweet, sweet, sweet kid. He's fucking Spider-Man, bruv. So you can't ever go out to Holland for beating you, right? Give him Murphy. I'm not having to go out to anybody for beating you, Tom. Mate, I fucking feel like I'm on with Piers Morgan here.

I'm not saying. Well, if I was you, I was shocked he didn't make the list. Yes, Tom, Tom, there are some people that are legitimately sexy. Oh my God, this is horrible. I've invited myself to my own roast there. So the point I'm trying to make is, right, I'm not being self deprecating, but I should not be on the list for the UK. So this is a weird list, right? I've been tagged in so many

videos, which people go like this. Have you seen this? Like loads of tic tocs like this, and I'm being tagged in this, right? Have you seen the list of the UK's sexiest men alive 2024 were these people high let me just break down the list here at number seven Ramesh Ranganathan what the hell is going on so I've seen so many videos like that somebody as I've got this morning By the way people think that I'm proud. I'm like picking this up. I think I'm like people Messaging me like I've put myself on this fucking list, right? Yeah, well quash it please tell okay if you hear it, all right

I don't want to be on this list anymore. Okay, but how many names did they give? How many names did they give for people to choose from? They gave them 50 celebrities. I know this much, right? Okay, okay Because I had to look into it because I thought something fucking dodgy is going on Do you know who the other 40 were? Any who run dark quick, you have to be head who didn't make the top 10 Tom, can I just ask you a question? Right? You know I'm busy, right? Yeah didn't make the top ten. Tom can I just ask you a question right? You know I'm busy right? Yeah yeah yeah. Do you think I've gone I've got in touch with Flo and go listen we need to I need to find out the full list of 50. I've got no idea because let's be honest if you're on the list you

would have made the top ten because I get a lot of messages from people and we get a lot of emails from people saying that you're a sexy sexy guy. No no no I think you've got a lot more sex appeal than like you've got a sexy vibe about you. Tom. But you just run a marathon. Tom. Bro that marathon thing might show there's a sexy vibe about the marathon. Tom, don't do this because can I tell you what you're doing and people don't this is what people don't realize about you okay I know exactly what the flaw is you are trying to harvest emails declaring your sexiness is so transparent from you. You're just going to say, Oh, well, you know, nobody was falling silly on Tom Davis sexy. There's no way anybody would

get in touch with the podcast and maybe message my Instagram saying I'm actually sexy and I shouldn't put myself down. Look at you sitting there going, oh, if you want to be more sexy, mate, you've got to put yourself forward a bit more. Oh, we lost him. I got into a really, oh, there we go. He's back. I got into a really chicken, like really, I really got my teeth stuck into a rant there and then he froze. Oh, no, but yeah, it's just how to, I was actually doing your voice, but I don't think it got picked up on your end. So something I can

I can listen back to If you want to be more sexy, you got pretty sure Anyway, I I'm now getting messages from people accusing me of being arrogant. I woke up this morning. There's a well, yeah I will take the you're sexy. I like that. But I know you're not arrogant. Well, I got a message from somebody going, You are walking around with a swagger that you don't yet deserve. Not a good look. I mean, sorry. Wow.

What the fuck? That is a really hard message by the way. What the fuck, man? That's a horrible message. by the way. What the fuck? That's a horrible message. Oh god. Anyway. Wowzer. Can I tell you a little bit of other news? That you're going to relate to.

One of my teeth is a tooth that I've been having ongoing problems with. It blew up last night. I was filming Robert Ramesh. What do you mean blew up last night. I was filming Robert Ramesh. What do you mean, what? That's in like just suddenly started like causing loads of pain, right? So I was filming Robert Ramesh, we get to the end of the first day of filming. I'm heading to the, we're heading to the hotel and I start to get this like dull ache in my tooth, right? And I'm thinking, oh no, I hope this isn't, I hope this isn't, I'm gonna be bad. Chill out with Rob, go for dinner.

Started to feel a bit more pain as I'm eating my dinner. Get to bed, wanting a nice night's sleep before I spend the next day filming. Slept for about, I reckon, 45 minutes total. Absolute, absolute agony. I was, I said to one of the guys on the set I was laid up in bed like you know the old couple in the Titanic just sort of yeah feeling so sorry for myself it too fake at night it's it's yeah it's brutal

mad look I just and ears well my even is a motherfucker oh my god I was lying in bed feeling so sorry for myself. I sent Lisa a text, this is apathetic I am. I sent Lisa a text knowing she'd be asleep, but I just felt it'd be better to send a text to somebody that I, you know, obviously somebody I love. I'll read them up. Hey, I can't sleep. I'm in agony.

I'm getting a bit freaked out for filming tomorrow. Just imagine waking up to that. Text, A text from one of the UK sexiest men just almost in tears. How did Lisa feel about you being the sexiest man by the way? I don't even think we've discussed it. Catherine's response would have been the fact that they don't have to live with me or they don't have to be around me all the time. Well I mean that would be my response. I mean, that was my shit off the bathroom floor. That was literal shit. That's my response.

They watch it. It's like it's easy to look sexy if you're if people aren't actually seeing what you like. Yeah. Are you? What's the score with your teeth? You really can't get to your hotel as well. No, it's my spare room. I was at high school last night. Not last night.

Are you are you going to go get your tooth sorted today? I am heading off to the, I can't go today. I'm heading off to the Gentol Dentist tomorrow. She's incredible, right? I just love everything about them. Yeah, she's an amazing human being. The vibe, the music, put the odd headphones on, a little bit of laid back hip hop as I get my tooth sorted. It's the only time I've ever been to a dentist and fallen asleep.

Yeah, I fall asleep almost every time. It's incredible. Which is a damning endowment of our lifestyles, I'd say. But. Yeah, I mean, sleep is, yeah. I don't even remember what a really good night's sleep is. I genuinely can't remember the last time I had a really good night's sleep. I woke up feeling refreshed and going,

oh wow, that was an incredible night's sleep. Can I tell you something incredible that happened to me the other night? Sorry, I've interrupted you. But just remind me, I've got to give them a shout out, although I can't remember the name of the hotel. I did gigs in Scotland this week, right? Or last week. Yeah. So I did two nights in Aberdeen, two nights in Edinburgh. Those crowds, Scottish crowds by the way, just in general. They're amazing.

Mate. Incredible. Just amazing. Right? Those crowds were Scottish crowds, by the way, just in general amazing mate Just Amazing. All right. So the Edinburgh gig I'll get to the hotel They have got in the room Just like a selection of photos That they've pulled off Instagram of me with with with my dogs that they've pulled off Instagram of me with my dogs.

Just looking at a little montage, like a little collage thing on the thing. And then a little note going, I hope you're not missing Reggie and Ivy too much. Here are some photos to keep you company. I mean, very sweet. What I would say is, no pictures of Lisa and the kids. No pictures of Lisa and the kids. Was that a bit creepy, maybe?

Well, there was a photo that I hadn't posted in the scrum She's just me so after I just woken up taking through the window which I thought was a bit weird if it is a bit like They've gone through your it's I mean you don't have many pictures of your dogs out on my idea All right, well they got that if you know It's a bit. Yeah. Oh, do you not think it? I mean, I like the way that I think you're in a place in your life and I know that you've got an amazing wife who really does love and care for you. But essentially, if I turned up at a hotel and someone made a collage with pictures of my, of Grace and Catherine or, and without my authority, I'd

be a bit like okay this is nice but you don't put pictures up of your dogs that means they've somehow followed Lisa. No they're all pictures taken of the dog. I want to look at your Instagram now and see how many pictures there are. Okay they're quite a few because I think when I did Reggie when Reggie came on Robert Romesh versus. Obviously you've got four posts straight off about you being the seventh sexiest man I mean to be fair if you looked at your Instagram the two people that you'd assume you miss the most should be me and Rob mate I'm having a deep dive that there's nothing of Reggie so I don't

know where they've got these pictures there's nothing I can't know where they've got these pictures. There's nothing. No, I can't see anything. Oh, there's one here. There's one. There's a lot of photos of me on here, isn't there? I don't know if I like this. There's loads of you. Loads of you looking really, really sort of, I mean, that's why you've won the sexiest man. I've got seventh. So sexy picture of you being sexy. I don't, I think that I know this is a weird thing to say. I think there's too many pictures of me on my Instagram account. This is a nice one. This is like a fucking nasty stream. Yeah, that was up there. Yeah, so, but that is a bit like,

look, he said there's a nice side to that, right? There's also, it's a side where it's a bit like, yeah. Also, who was tasked with that job? I don't, it was what? Who was tasked with turning around and going, Chloe, we've got Mr. Ragethan staying with us this weekend. Are you alright to have a little deep dive into his Instagram and see if there's any nice pictures of him and his dogs?

Well, it obviously been like, it obviously been... There's someone sitting there and we're going, oh God. Well, first of all, I didn't, I thought... Thank you, that was lovely. I did say all of those things. But it was one woman in particular who'd watched, who worked at the hotel that watched that Robin Romesh where we'd been with the dogs

and then just found Reggie particularly adorable and then found pictures of me with Reggie and Ivy. So I think she was a dog lover. But what I would say is when I went around the rest of the hotel, like for example, I had to go and get, I got something from reception. And she hadn't recognized me for my comedy. She recognized me from the photos knocking about

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But. It's a bit baby reindeer, isn't it? It's just, yeah. Also, also how hilarious would it be if you, as you were leaving, went to the manager, oh, thanks for the collage, by the way, of all the dogs. What collage?

Oh, God. Well, you know, obviously someone went in my room and put the collage, well, of all the dogs. What collage? Oh God. You know, obviously someone went in my room and put the collage, well no, that's against hotel authority. Well no, someone's been on my Instagram and taken pictures and printed them out of me and my dogs. No, I'm sorry, that's completely against their ethos. I managed to freak out Martin Teese move actually legendary Martin Teese move. By the way, Martin was the one who brought it to my attention about the 760s magic.

What do you mean? Well he was he was he OG he posted it. Oh right okay okay he didn't message it because he started telling me that he actually played quite a good prank or what I say play a prank he sort of wound me up saying that basically he told me when we were away that you had got in touch with him and Gratz and a few other people to organize a surprise stag do for me because I've not had one and I didn't realize that Martin was really scared of ghosts so somebody told me that the playhouse they didn't reply houses haunted and you know they've got they've got a ghost light there. What a ghost light something has have a ghost light. And it's I'm I mean, I'd never heard of it. And but Graz was telling me this like, it was a known thing. Yeah, here we go. A ghost light is an electric light that is left energised in the stage of a theatre when the theatre is unoccupied and would otherwise be completely dark. It's known as equity lights and apparently it's

to keep away ghosts. A popular theatrical superstition holds every theatre has a ghost and some theatres have traditions to appease ghosts that reach back into their history. For example, the Palace Theatre in London keeps two seats in this balcony permanently bolted open to provide seating for the theatre ghosts. Right. So, yeah, I had no idea about any of this. Right. So you're not a ghost believer either.

No, no, no, no. I would say that I, yeah, I'm unconvinced, but it still used to, even though as unconvinced, I've sort of liked all these stories. So anyway, the playhouse is apparently haunted. They've got a ghost tonight. And I've heard stories from more than one person that they've been backstage in one of the dressing rooms and heard somebody walk in the corridors

when nobody else is in that area of the building and stuff like that. I've heard more than one story like that. I remember when we were at Hammersmith Apollo and someone had a shower in one of the rooms. That was you, wasn't it? I thought it was a ghost. No. No, no, no. What do you mean? Hold on. This is a bit of a... You went into the bathroom and the shower was wet. So you assumed that a ghost had taken...

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. So it's slightly different, isn't it? I mean, I would say... As difficult... It was unexplained. Okay, so it's slightly different, isn't it? I mean, I would say as difficult things to explain go, some water being found in the base of a shower and nobody else taking a shower that evening. I think it's pretty, you know, that's not, I wasn't as freaked out by it as you were, put it that way. Right, but there was talking of a ghost

at Hortham, Hammersmith Apollo. Well, only from you. I didn't hear, I didn't hear. That's how stories start. Yeah, it's, well, not, it was only you that was talking about it. Imagine somebody going around telling a story that they think is remarkable and everybody else goes,

yeah, it's probably just some water coming out the shower Tom. You walk it around like it's an incredible thing. Anyway, I mentioned this to Martin Too Smooth. He got utterly freaked out. Oh, really? He asked me to stop talking about it. So hold up, what did, what happened?

He got really upset. He did get upset, but like, so I started telling him about the ghost, then Grant stop talking about it. So hold up. What did it work? He got really upset. He didn't get upset but like so I started telling him about the ghost then grass like the ghost light and starting with the ghost light like It's something we should all know about not wish you'll know about but he said it very matter-of-factly And then as Martin was going to his dressing room, I just went so let's in a bit Martin And then you should just stop man just stop don't do that. It's getting ready. Yeah, I gave him the heebie-jeebies basically I love that word heebie-jeebies. It's good, isn't it? Have you been I've not asked you how have you been tired brother, but good. I've been good

a Lovely weekend in Yorkshire. Give it again went to York York's a banging city man. I love it I love it big big shout out to York. York has got so much to do. Big up, big up, York. Listen, big up, York. You're brilliant. And also, can I just shout out Leeds, City Varieties, two great nights.

Sunday night in Leeds was phenomenal. Like, what an amazing crowd. Scarborough, I'd say great, apart from probably the biggest bell-end headcraft for a long time but I don't really feel I want to give them any sort of yeah I'm just gonna mention leave it there but anyhow no it was a lot of fun just now I'm filming I'm gonna leave it around I'm feeling very tired yeah so no no good brother I'm

good I'm good oh so you just shot you know when someone shouts out halfway for a joke I'm good brother, I'm good, I'm good. I'm good, I'm good. I'm good. No, hold on, tell me a whole new story about this big bell in Scarborough. Oh, so you just shout, you know when someone shouts out halfway for a joke, I think people underestimate how much you need tempo and rhythm to a joke. And when someone shouts something out really early on in the fucking set,

it really kills it for everyone, and myself, the crowd, really kill the atmosphere. And like, look, shout out to the rest of the crowd at Scarborough, you're amazing. And it was quite obvious that everyone loathed this piece of shit as much as I did. But then it created not a great vibe in the room, which was upsetting really, I thought. I know that you don't do any crowd work in your shows and I don't do any crowd work in my shows and I've got no issue with people that do do crowd work but I don't,

I don't personally love, I used to do it, come out at the top of the show and start talking to people but then I started thinking how people just probably want to come and watch the show so I stopped doing it anyway but no I've got no issue with anyone that does it but when somebody heckles without getting too like boring about it which that shit might sell you are you are what you're trying to do is shut that heckler up right because you don't want the show to get ruined so you're walking this line of not being too rude to the person that's heckled you but also you have to sort of destroy them a little bit because you don't want them to talk again. That's the job that you've got to do and on many occasions so far on a couple of occasions have taken me to a point where I felt so guilty I've

had to apologize afterwards. On a couple of occasions I've just gone two-footed in on somebody that shouted out because I wanted to stop. Yeah, it's hard not to when you know that the bit has come in or you're in a rhythm and you're enjoying it. Look, Scarborough's an amazing crowd and lovely crowd and it took a wind out of my sails. And then you speed through jokes that usually would have a bit more nuance and a bit more you'd enjoy. I remember what I felt for you because you text me going, fuck Scarborough, I'm never

going back to that shithole. Do you know what I mean like fuck those people those people are idiot you know and I could feel that you're angry about it. Scarborough are sensitive souls so like Ramesh is here very much twisting and turning the screw but I was I was genuinely I was like I just find it an insane thing, the heckling thing. And my sister was recently at an event and that she was with someone who was turning around saying, I will never go to a comedy club or a gig, I always heckle because comedians like it. And I can assure you, no one does. No one likes it. It's fucking insane. The crowd don't like it.

It'll be about one bell end who finds that funny. Well, if it makes you feel any better, we've had emails in about all of your gigs from people saying that they absolutely loved it. So congratulations to you on that. Would you like to do an email? Let's do a lovely email. Something that will pick our spirits up and make us both be intertwined at the moment, a festive love. Oh, okay. Okay. Well, this is more sort of needing some advice.

This is not quite. Anyway. Okay, let's do it. This is, hello to the Swan Cat Wolf and Al. I want to start by saying I'm a massive fan of you both. And having started a few months ago, I've nearly made it through all of your odd episodes. Also having grown up close to Tom,

King Gary is some of my favorite and most relatable TV ever. Wish it would come back. Now to my question, I'm 26 and last year I started dating my childhood sweetheart again, after intermittently seeing each other since about 13. I hadn't seen her since uni and we rekindled after she slid into my DMs.

We got on amazingly, mostly because she's the sweetest soul around. However, since I'd last seen her, she's moved to Brighton and I live in London. It was beautiful getting to know each other again and we both felt like we were a great match. Unfortunately, distance and life got in the way and things fizzled out

because we couldn't see each other as often as we'd like, ending in her posting my hoodie back to me. Oh wow, the hoodie post back, that's a big moment. Also, in truth, it's probably me that's taken most of the blame for being beaten by the distance. My question is this, should I try and reach out to and overcome the distance to make it work? If it's something we both want, or should I let fate take its course

and believe that it's meant to be the stars were aligned for us in the future? She's an amazing person. And I could really see a future with her. But I don't want either of us getting hurt or wasting time by trying things again, if it's too big a hurdle right now. Love you guys keep doing you. Yours to Tate Prince. The Tate Prince, yo, let me just say this. I'm gonna throw a couple of things at you, man. You can either bat them away, you can catch them, put them in your heart and take them for their right. Number one, waiting for the stars to align. Sometimes the stars will align and the carpet of love will run smoothly, but other times the stars won't. And the true thing that was meant to be won't be because you've been relying on little puddles of gas

in the air to do your work for you. Hear me out brother, love can build a bridge between your heart and mine. Love can build a bridge, don't you think it's time? Bro, I think you need to kind of look at building that bridge from London to Brighton. That is a special relationship that you've got there. It's like when you keep on seeing someone over and over again and those sparks ignite, right?

It's a very, very cherished thing. And if it's something as silly as distance that's got in the way. And like, you know, I think, I think we can look at everything you're saying. And the thing about getting hurt is probably the most prevalent thing of all, right? That you're worried about it, she's worried about it. And my guy, my bro, I think sometimes you've got to take that leap of faith and know that she is a sweet soul and you're a sweet soul, and neither are you going to do anything intentionally to hurt each other.

I mean, for the first year or so of mine and Catherine's relationship, we had like an hour and 20 minutes distance by train between us. And we saw each other every weekend. We saw each other, you know, if we could during the week, but we kept that going as much as we could, because it felt like a very special thing and still does that it was worth that hour and hour and hour every weekend, because I'd look forward to just going to see her. And I think the thing is you sometimes I think the excuses you find not to do things is because you know the reality is I think a lot of people when it comes to relationships is that way of getting hurt which breaks my heart man because you clearly like this person. You clearly do. And I think take that risk. Reach out and hopefully, fingers crossed for you, you can restart that fire. If not, then so be it, man. Maybe the stars have acted

already and you're too late. But it seems to me there's a lot of love in your heart. So let that heart do the beating and let your four feet did a week walk in and go get that. Yeah. Listen, I think I think I know that Cost can be an input can be an issue for things like this in terms of travel But if you really have got that connection and just do it man Like, you know, I actually think do you know what? I think there should be free rail travel for love We're trying to give practical advice to somebody here. No, I don't think there should be free rail travel for love. We're trying to give practical advice to somebody here. No, I do not think there should be.

Okay, let's just entertain that for a moment. Talk me through the mechanics of how that would work, please. Okay, you basically find a new relationship, something you've got to be able to prove to someone, like the rail companies that you've found someone you really, really love and that you really, really care about. How do you prove it? How do you prove it? You show Instagram, like you have to show some texts and sort of like

pictures of your like your blossoming relationship. Like there is like a love booth within the platform like you know, so also it gives someone else another job in a world where we you know, we need other people at work. So every place is a love booth. And if they can verify your relationship, a bit like a marriage person, you basically together go to a love booth,

you take a bit of time every day. They go, oh, you two seem really happy. Okay, right, yeah, you got free travel. And then when you're on the train, guard comes around and goes, oh, you got a ticket? Yeah, yeah, my ticket says this, and it's like a little ticket that's got like two little hearts on it.

And he goes, oh, wow, this is a love pass it's like a little tickets got like two little hearts on it and he goes. Oh, well This is a love pass. I've seen when these before but yeah, God bless you and I hope that you've happiness is forever for you And and then what happens when you get together say if they move in together What happens in is their love pass revoked or do they just get free choice because you moved in together? Yeah Yeah, but also you then go. I was to the train up to London or down to Brighton? Yeah. Yeah. You know what?

It would be amazing. Do you remember the railway service when they gave us that free love pass? And it's a great anecdote. It's a great story to have whenever you're on the train, you're sitting there, someone sits in the seat opposite. I go, what are you two bloody smiling about? I was just thinking when we first got together, we had a love pass.

So we used to travel to see each other. Oh, what's a love pass? Oh, basically like that. So the only two people that know about the love pass, then is what you're saying. No, the other people know, but this person they're chatting to doesn't, and his name's Kevin, and he's like,

oh, there's a love pass. I've started seeing someone in Manchester, but I can't afford to travel, so I'm thinking about splitting up with her. Get a love pass. Kevin calls Sandra and he's like, Sandra, have you heard of love passes? No, it's like, before you know it, the world becomes linked more. People start traveling more to see each other. It's all in the name of love. Is it 1984? I'm just basing this on the fact that Kevin and Sandra have fallen in love.

Do you not think this system, I mean, I don't know why I'm entertaining this, this is a real thing here. Do you not think this system is potentially open to abuse, would you say, for you to sort of offer a counter-op? Well, you know what, you'd hope it wouldn't be, but I think if people turn up, right, it's a ball-ake to have to go to Euston Station, right, with your sort of new girlfriend or boyfriend and go, look, turn up.

You get one of those people, like a ticket inspector, someone who can tell if people are lying, so they'd be able to go, I'm not really buying this. Do you know what I mean? You'd have to go, there'd be questions, so you'd tell a man and go, know, this is Melanie. I'm John. We've just met each, you know, we've been seeing each other for four months, but she lives in Cambridge. I live in Edinburgh. But we get on really, really well. Okay, okay. Guys, that's great, Melanie and John. I'm happy for you. Well, nearly am. Melanie, John, have you been on holiday yet together? No, no, no, no, we're just, oh, okay, okay, okay.

What's your favorite place to go? Oh, we like to go to ZZ. Oh, okay. Oh, that's interesting. Are you thinking like, you know, where would you move? Yeah, and he starts asking a few questions. You know, what's Melanie's favorite color, John? Blue.

Oh, that's weird. Yeah, I also like blue. But anyway, there's like loads of sort of little questions that they ask. Right. And then they go, Well, you know what? I hope you don't mind, but British Rail would like to be a part of this beautiful romance. You've got free love travel. Sometimes I wonder if you need me on this podcast. And I think the fact that for about a minute of that you were frozen and

You had no idea that I wasn't responding is a real sign Of how little I'm required Of this thing. No, don't you think that that's a thing? It could be a nice thing. Yeah, it could be I mean what I would say is that they couldn't even should we not be trying to do more nice things Yeah, but Tom what I'm saying is people I don't want to be cynical about this, people cannot be trusted. Do you remember when they tried to do, you could pay for your own newspapers at Dubhead Smith's, that lasted about three months. You know, the honesty boxes.

People can't be trusted. Yeah, I mean, honesty, but yeah, but, yeah, but honesty, but that's different, isn't it? This you'd have to like go through like a bit of a process. I just think it could be worth it man for the Toad Prince and for everyone who's missed out on love and love is just around the corner but the corners you know. Anyway the long and the short of it is Toad Prince go and get your lover. I mean don't you don't get them but you know obviously get in touch. This is too good an opportunity to miss up miss out so go and find love my G. Do not lose that gal. Do not lose that gal my friend.

Do not. Okay Tom, it's about that time my G. Oh my gosh. Tom's doing that. Tom, can I just say I've got a day off today. Yeah. So it's nothing for me to go, I'm probably going to go to bed. Can I just say this is the dedication that Tom Davis has to the Wolf and I podcast.

And I wanna shout you out on this. You've got a long day of filming ahead of you. Yeah. And despite that, you've got your heavy head out off the pillow. Well, you're not that far from the pillow still in bed. But to do this. You know what?

Because some people need coffee in the morning. Some people need a cold shower, an ice plant. Some people need a jog. Do you know what I need most of all that really just relaxes my soul? An hour of your company, my friend. Okay, great. Well, we better keep it to 45 because you're getting in a rush. There's only another 10 people. 10? Yeah, who, no, another 10 people in the world. Let me finish, Eggie Bill, right?

There's another 10 people who, like like friendship groups could say they have one of the sexiest men in the world as their best friends All right, and I feel absolutely blessed to have that in mind. Okay, so thank you And I'm token of that time. Maybe that's what I should sum up with Maybe that's what I should say up with. Maybe that's what I should sum up with. Friendships are strange. Friendships are crazy a bit when it comes to friendship. Don't treat them lazy. The truth is that sometimes a friendship can be like a flame roaring, an open bonfire that everyone stood around taking that glaze. But sometimes when those flames wilter a little and all you're left is with just the embers of what was once a mighty

fire, people start walking away and the fire would die. And it's always a shame because maybe you'll talk years later about, God, you remember when we were roasting marshmallows in that big burning furnace? The truth of of matter is no flame really has to go out. If you blow on those embers just a little bit the flame will reignite. Maybe if you throw a little bit of gasoline on it just to induce more of a flame. And that's what friendships are like. It's easy to let the flame die. It's easy not to reach out and blow a little on the sticks that used to burn so bright. Anything worth having is worth keeping. Any flame in your heart that once burned bright and gave you a warmth that nothing else could match is worth keeping. I want you today to reach out to one person

and go, yo, friend, I miss you. For you, the flame still burns brightly. A bit, maybe only in my heart. That's really nice. Really, really nice. I hated the smile that you did at the end of it. Okay, it's time to wrap things up and I was lucky enough to talk to Kano at the BAFTAs and it reminded me of what a straight up legendary character that guy is. That's the thing I'm most jealous about now. I love everything. Oh my God, I love that guy. Kano's got a brand new song out with Scraps called Marathon Continues.

It's an absolute banger. JT, can you give us a bit of that, please? Thank you so much for listening, we love you very much and stay tuned for some obviously the Wolf and Owl is gonna... Tom and I have been having some chats and it's about to step up a level so I shouldn't have promised that before we've actually... We've actually settled down. Anyway, just watch this space. Take care guys, bye bye, love you mate. Big love, bye bye. If tune I forget I pull up in court

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