Wolf and Owl - S2 Ep 11: Holiday Beers & Needy Risotto
Episode Date: September 1, 2022We’re talking… mini-Sagres beers, vegan bacon dust, needy risottos, signing pebbles, Tom’s new TV obsessions, the ever-changing Kanye West and getting creative in stand-up. Then we take a look a...t some of your emails, with questions on losing weight to please a partner, putting off seeing the doctor and the rights and wrongs of pissing in swimming pools. For questions or comments please email us at wolfowlpod@gmail.com - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch - https://wolfandowlpod.com/ A Shiny Ranga Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to all for now. Robesh has got a beer on the go. Robesh has got a beer in the dark. too fucked on this, yeah? Mate, mate, mate, how many have you had? Six today? That's my third
in...
Wow.
What time is it now?
I started drinking about
ten.
So we're all good, mate.
We're all good.
What, ten this morning?
Yeah, so that's my third one.
So how...
What's the time
where you are now?
Is it the same time as here?
Same time.
I'm only joking.
This is like my first beer.
I've not been drinking at all.
Are you boozy this holiday? How boozy have you here? Same time. I'm only joking. This is like my first beer. I've not been drinking at all. Are you boozy this holiday?
How boozy have you been?
Not very.
Beef came around
a couple of times.
Andrew Beef Johnson.
Oh, Beef.
And I got drunk with him.
People's golfer.
Yeah.
I'd say I've got hammered
a handful of times.
And I have been drinking a lot,
but like,
not like I've not been on it.
Have you bumped into
any other cool dudes
while you've been out there?
Like who? Any other cool dudes from you've been out there I haven't
any other cool dudes
from the way
bumped into
I say bumped into
arranged to meet up
with Jason Manford
met up with him
whoa
shout out Manners
yeah
big Jason Manns
but he's not a big
living it out
he's not a big drinker
so
no he's not a drinker at all
is he a drinker at all
I don't
I don't think so
so yeah he was what I love about Joe he's a cuddly kind of guy yeah very good yeah he's not a drinker at all, is he? Does he drink at all? I don't think so.
What I love about Joe, he's a cuddly kind of guy.
Yeah, very good.
Yeah, he's got a nice life. We hung out at, what was it?
Aqua Show, the water park.
What's that?
Oh, nice.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Have you seen Blackfish?
Yes, why?
No, I'm just saying that.
No, what's the point of making?
Well, no, did you go to like a SeaWorld centre?
So I went to a water park, Tom.
So where in Blackfish did they talk...
Blackfish, that's really fucking put egg on my face there
in terms of this little slang.
Where in Blackfish did they talk about
the lack of ethics of the twister?
No, no, I thought it was like
you were going to a sea life centre kind of.
Well, actually, I'm glad you said that
because I did go today to a place like that.
So basically, a few years ago, I went to...
This is quite coincidental that you mention this,
because a few...
God, this is really relaxing.
By the way, let's put some context into this.
We're doing an evening record.
Can we just say, by the way...
This is...
I don't know.
We are trying to...
Every episode over the last month
we're trying to drop
the energy levels
the next one
we're both going to be
laid down
I don't know where
it goes from here
right
I think yeah
let's just disclaimer
like yeah
I was hungover this morning
and I spent the day
at a food festival
where I've eaten quite a lot
and I drank a lot
yeah you went to the
cheesy pig or whatever
didn't you
oh my gee
so mate
shout them out by by the way.
Shout out Cheesy Pig for their vegan wares.
Listen, here's a tip, Cheesy Pig.
If you've got vegan wares, don't encourage to have the Cheesy Pig.
What are you talking about?
They've got amazing vegan bits there.
The Cheesy Pig has got amazing vegan bits.
Mate, mate, mate, mate.
Sometimes, right, you've got to look further than the name, yo.
You've got to subscribe to something deeper than the fucking things that you see.
You've got to take it into the shallows, like Lady Gaga, do you?
Yeah.
Right?
Well, you know, if I'm walking along as a vegan and I'm hungry,
where am I going to go?
I've got a choice of two places.
I've got the cheesy pig.
I've got the place with the white guy with dreads in the window.
I think I know which one I'm going to, all right?
I think there's a white guy with dreads who works at the cheesy pig, I've got the place with the white guy with dreads in the window. I think I know which one I'm going to. All right? I think there's a white guy with dreads who works at Cheesy Pig.
It's the geezer tipping quinoa into a set of scales.
That's where I'm going to.
Not the guy with a vat of cheese sauce.
So Cheesy Pig does vegan stuff.
So where, hold on, talk to me about this.
So where'd you go?
We went to a local burly place in Burley.
It was incredible.
And yeah, a lot of food fans but
no they did uh fake bacon cheese and cheese fries i think it's vegan uh cheese fries as well it was
incredible man i mean it doesn't but i i actually quite like uh vegan bacon i'm getting into that
taste no like the faux bacon no you just don't like it at all, do you? Well, I've tried. There is one I tried, but you don't like it.
It's that this isn't bacon.
I quite like that.
Yeah, I think it will.
But this is the test for me.
I very rarely eat it.
You know when you say you like something?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
I have this with albums as well, right?
Somebody said to me, someone would go, do you like this album?
And I go, yeah, I do like it.
I think it's good.
And then I think, hold on, I haven't listened to it for like, so I can't like it.
Do you know what I mean?
So I say I like vegan bacon or I enjoy vegan bacon, but I don't, I don't ever buy it, ever.
This place, this place had vegan bacon dust.
Vegan bacon dust.
Yeah.
Like it's like a bacon flavoring that they cover your chips and cheese and with.
It's fucking amazing.
Yeah.
I bought some of that. Have you bought some? no because i saw it on do you know on um
am i talking a lot am i all over the place i feel like i've come on like i've done half a gram or
something like that my conversation is all over that would be the saddest but yet my probably my
favorite version of this fucking podcast is you sitting in your 13-year-old son's room on a family holiday.
Just some...
So, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, no, honestly...
With a little wrap of gear that you put on.
No, no, no, no, no.
Trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me.
If you want bacon dust, I bought some of that off the internet,
and it's...
They say it tastes like bacon, but, mate, come on,
I can tell the difference.
Like, I can tell the difference. Like,
I can tell the difference straight away.
Like,
you put it in front of me,
put it in front of me,
go,
what flavour is that space?
I can tell the difference.
Like,
trust me on that.
No,
because I...
Because then you're staring
when I don't answer.
No,
but I did,
I did buy a load of that.
I think it was,
there was like a load of vegan bacon-like powder
that apparently if you put it on mashed potato,
you put it on chips, you put it on whatever.
Oh, God, I can't imagine what it'd be like on mashed potato.
Yeah.
I love that.
It's a tater tots.
Yeah.
Key sauce.
It was incredible.
So shout out, Cheesy Pig.
Shout out, Cheesy Pig.
And can I just apologise to you, Cheesy Pig,
for insinuating that you wouldn't have any vegan uh ting tings you know what i got home as well and i made the mistake of
saying to katherine i'll cook dinner um and for some reason i've decided to cook a fucking risotto
who you ever cooked a risotto many times many many many times I love the taste of risotto
I love what
but risotto for me
is like reading
a really long book
it's like
just a fucking
long arduous task
where it would be easier
for someone else
to do it for you
well that's true
I don't think
that's peculiar to risotto
that it would be easier
if somebody else
did it for you
yeah no but
yeah it's different
if I'm just making
like a fucking
goulash or some shit
where I can just ping it all in the oven and it's quite quick.
Risotto, you've got to stand with it the whole time.
Well, I would say I agree with you on that.
That is where my problem with risotto is.
Because I do quite a nice five-bean chilli
if you don't want to have sex that night.
I'll just say, by the way, you've gone from cocaine wrong,
where I was actually thinking, well, fucking,
my guy's come back from Portugal with a bit of edge to him, to this guy.
So you're a bit like, yeah, yeah, yeah, so just a lot of grammar and shit, yeah?
Yeah, it's a teenage going.
No, listen, I do a pretty good...
You know what, yeah, yeah, so I do a pretty mean five bean chilli.
I do a pretty good five bean chilli.
You have to get those onions.
You have to break those onions right down, yeah?
And I also make the tortillas. I also also get the tortillas cut them up into little triangles and
then fry them teams yeah next level thing but the great thing about a five bean chili is you can
leave that you do the ingredients you throw it in low heat go and do something else watch the first
half of toy story three or whatever, right? With Risotto,
you have to attend it like a fucking needy toddler.
The whole time
you stood at the thing,
it's so irritating.
I had,
I was looking after Grace
and doing a Risotto
at the same time
and both required
so much attention.
That was,
it was a killer, boy.
Absolute killer.
Yeah.
Where's your T-shirt from, G?
My T-shirt?
Nice.
It's, I got it from G my t-shirt nice it's
I got it from
some shopping
it's a holiday purchase
what do you think
Rick and Morty
nice I like it
yeah it's nice
you cut well
how often are you
in the gym
when you're out there
er
three four times a week
I would say
no but do you know
what can I tell you
about this t-shirt
this is the last time
it's going to look like this
I can feel it you know when you put it you know when you know as soon
as this goes in the wash this is it's over yeah be careful man because yeah yeah we have to be
careful because we're selling t-shirts and stuff now so huh i don't want to bite back i don't know
how well you say we're selling t-shirts we're accepting orders for t-shirts i've got no idea
if people are receiving them or not although Although I have seen a lot of people.
I love, I'm a big fan.
And as you know, Tom, I don't often,
I very rarely share if somebody says they enjoy something
that you and I do or whatever.
I'm very loathe to do that.
Yeah, it's very hard.
But I do love resharing a picture of somebody wearing our merch.
It's just like, and not even an advert thing.
It's just like a buzz. Yeah. I think there was like a picture of somebody wearing our merch. It's just like... And not even an advert thing. It's just like a buzz.
Yeah.
I think there was like a photo of somebody on holiday.
There was a guy with his kid at the beach.
I love it.
The one with the guy longingly looking out into the sea.
I found that one great.
Looking for an arse pebble or what?
Yeah.
Let me just shout, actually,
quite a few people turned up at Lost Village Festival this week
with pebbles for me at a sign,
which is quite a fucking surreal thing
for anyone who didn't
know the Arse Pebbles
story
no
quite crazy
I would say
knowing the Arse Pebbles
story only makes it
weirder actually
do you know
the most ironic thing
man
is I could have done
with an Arse
having an Arse Pebble
with me
I was shitting like
nobody's business
before that gig
I had serious
ring sting
yeah
pre-gig shit.
I've managed to get past it now,
but I used to have a big problem of like,
before a gig,
my arse would bring the thunder.
It was like a nerve thing,
but I don't have it anymore.
How long did it take you to get it?
Really?
Yeah, I haven't had it for,
I'm talking about it like it's a serious condition,
but I haven't had it for like,
last tour I had it, this tour I haven't had it at all. Oh, man like it's a serious condition but I haven't had it for like last tour I had it
this tour I haven't had it at all
oh man
don't know why
couldn't tell you why
maybe I don't care as much
maybe I know I'm on the way out
I don't know
I don't know what it is
but it's
oh fucking hell
are you sure you're not on cocaine
it's an actual rollercoaster
of emotions here
do you know I've basically bitten off a new reality show you've bitten off a new reality show what does that mean yeah so i started delving into a new show right it's actually
uh from our mutual friend katherine ryan was about on her podcast. It's called 90 day fiance.
Go on,
explain it to me.
It is never,
I think I find it the most anxious ridden show I've ever watched in my life.
So it's basically a group of single people who all have basically got internet and internet love,
but they go and meet.
And within the 90 days that they meet them, they're trying to basically for them to propose and it's people for I mean there's a good so is
it like Love Island no no these are people who have met someone online
already they know they've met the person already okay and so they said the
producers have found people that have already been chatting
yeah yeah yeah so so it's people that could like there's a guy on there called sean who's been like
seeing he's met this woman out in the philippines or something before and they have a son together
so that he's trying to get her over to live with him but he's got serious money debts he's got like
serious money like he's run up all his credit cards she doesn't know any of this stuff she thinks she's quite well off yeah um and he's been lying to debts. He's got like serious money. Like he's run up all his credit cards. She doesn't know any of this stuff.
She thinks she's quite well off.
Yeah.
And he's been lying to her about his financial situation.
So he admits this to camera,
does he?
Oh yeah.
But Rob,
I find that one so,
I find,
I find myself getting really anxious.
When I get anxious,
watching TV shows,
because I find it really horrible to,
like him,
I find it really sad watching him.
He's clearly quite a sweet soul. And there's some really nice people in there but there's also I'd say the
most vile human being I've maybe seen on British telly for a long long time really this guy called
Richard from man he's from uh somewhere near Manchester he's's literally like when I say this right he goes to see his uh this
girl that he this woman he's met and the way he speaks to her family and the way he speaks to her
genuinely made me absolutely disgusted to be from the same country as him he's vile he's I'd say
yeah I think he like genuinely I watch it and I'm like, oh, my God, you're absolutely, just physically,
just makes me feel sick.
You've done a couple of these now.
So this is, you're saying that this guy, what's his name, Richard?
I shouldn't have clarified his name.
He's one of the most vile human beings you've ever seen.
And then not that long ago,
you fucking went in two footed on somebody
from Love Island
you've got very
you've got very
judgmental
haven't you recently
like I think you
described
I can't remember
what the geezer's name was
but you described him
as one of the
vilest human beings
you've ever seen
I don't know
this guy
this guy
this is not the
empathetic wolf
you know
the wolf that sees from both sides that I've gotten accustomed to.
This wolf is very judgmental and harsh.
I need you to watch this guy.
All right.
I will send you the episode in question.
Okay.
I guarantee you will feel like I feel.
Like I'll hate it.
I'll hate him.
You will loathe him.
Oh, he's going for the second beer.
Oh, my God. How many have you got there? This is it I'll hate it. I'll hate him. You'll loathe him. Oh, he's going for the second beer. Oh, my God.
How many have you got there?
This is it.
This is it.
Another four or five of these,
little Sagresh minis,
I'll be up to...
And you've had a whole big beer.
Exactly.
That's the joke I was doing,
you fucking rat.
You fucking trampled all over it
like a c*** on a panel show.
Mate, that's why I'm drinking water
because I can fly in
and I'm quick on those panels.
You didn't fly in.
You interrupted, you fucking prick has that happened does that happen
to your panel shows yeah you start off a joke somebody goes so yeah you'd have yourself a full
beer there wouldn't you and you go yeah everyone laughs get a round of applause you just sit there
like yeah but pats on the back enjoy that enjoy you at this night you don't feel and say i'd say
you need to watch i just i just don't know if I'm in the market for waste of time TV, man.
The other thing I watched, Woodstock 99.
You seen that?
No, what's that?
Oh, is that the...
Hold on, is that the Netflix show about the new Woodstock?
Not the new Woodstock, 99.
Come on, rubbish, it's 20 years ago.
But the later Woodstock.
Man, it's insane, bruv.
Really?
It's insane.uv really it's insane it's crazy i mean to be fair
we'd have been of that age when that was happening it's just an amazing mental thing and like quite
savage horrible thing too and by all accounts i've done quite a lot of reading about it since
subsequently right and uh apparently that is not it's darker what went on
than they even
allowed on that
hold on
without sort of
spoiling that
what's the problem
is it like
fire festival
worse than fire festival
worse than fire festival
yeah yeah yeah
it happened
this festival happened
and there was no security
basically turned into
Lord of the Flights
it was like
insane
the stuff
disgusting and horrible yeah but that happened at fire festival yeah flight it was like insane the stuff that disgusting and
horrible yeah but that happened at fire fest no yeah but this was like yeah this is also do you
know that the original woodstock was a bit like that yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean it's just yeah
yeah just people running right right yeah yeah i think it was a bit i think all of those like
you know those legendary stories there is some shit it's a lot of shit that went down
they sort of don't talk about or they look back on it
with rose tinted glasses
but I've watched
that Fyre Festival documentary
I reckon five times
have you?
yeah
I watched it once
I just
did you watch both?
or just the one?
no I've only watched the one
but I think the other one
is meant to be the better one
I don't know why I keep
watching the inferior one
over and over again
the Hulu one
is meant to be the best one
yeah that's what I heard but I'll it's i'll tell you what i find
addictive is um do you know like do you know like how it's a human nature to to leave a problem like
say if you've got like i don't know you're supposed to get in touch with your accountant or
yeah you've got a like you've got a conversation that you don't want to have right you keep leaving
it keep leaving it keep leaving it gets worse worse worse and worse right that is that fire festival is that to the
nth degree where like they know it's going to be a complete and utter fuck up unless they like they
sort it out and it's like the bit where like they know they can't accommodate everyone they haven't
even got fucking apps booked right they don't they haven't got everyone they haven't even got fucking apps booked right
they don't they haven't got enough food for like even 10 of the people and they just it's too late
to do it if they just see what happens it's so like yeah i don't know man it's so addictive
that watching that fall that fall out from that that's insane but when you watch this one it's
like they cut corners but they but the acts are there.
I don't want to ruin it for you, but it's fucking insane.
That, so I've basically, so you just go for a weekend.
We've had a bit of a chill time this weekend, me and Catherine.
So we watched that, and then we watched the Manti Teo story.
Manti Teo?
What's that?
Yeah, so this guy, I'm pretty sure I've pronounced his,
I'm a bit hungover today,
but he was like an American football,
like hot shot kid who got catfished.
And again,
I don't want to ruin the story,
but it's fucking insane.
Really? What he had to go through.
Mate,
it's an amazing Netflix documentary.
I'll check it out.
Called Untold.
Mate,
get one of that,
get a couple of those on for the flight back. Yeah, we'll do. Theo's just watched out. Called Untold. Get a couple of those for the flight back.
Theo's just watched
all of the Kanye documentary
which I watched a while ago.
I haven't even finished that yet.
Kanye, man.
Do you think you've got an air of Kanye about you when you're like this?
Do you reckon I've got what, sorry?
An air of Kanye about you when you're like this.
Do you know what I genuinely think?
People like Kanye West
and people like
David Bowie and Richard Pryor
and people like that
it makes me want to stop doing
what I do. Do you know what I mean? You know when you
see people that are really creating fucking
art? Yeah.
You look
at what you're doing.
You mean two idiots who fucking have both, like,
looked onto a fucking zoo?
Yeah, two twats that have lucked their way into a career.
You know, like, you know, I went to watch the Lego movie, right?
Yeah.
And I don't know if...
But the Lego movie was so funny and it had so many amazing ideas. I just sat there and watched it and I don't know but the Lego movie was so funny and it had so many amazing ideas
I just sat there
and watched it
and I went
this has got more jokes
and great ideas in it
than my fucking career
right
like
I actually
like
I actually
I came out of the cinema
I genuinely
I'm not
I'm not exaggerating
I thought about
giving up comedy
you're joking
off the Lego movie.
Mate, just because I was like...
It is brilliant.
It is a brilliant bit of work.
But the same thing happens with somebody like Kanye.
This isn't a hip-hop podcast,
so I don't want to go too deep with it.
No, no, no.
But he kept breaking the mould, right?
And the example that I'll give is Kanye
West when he was absolutely
at the top of his game like
popularity wise and everybody was like Kanye
Kanye Kanye he released an R&B album
essentially 808s and Heartbreak
right where he just had it was him auto
tuned and like whatever you think of the album
he just went I don't
give a fuck what you think I'm gonna
do I'm gonna make
this thing because i want to make it right it's you know the insane thing right is that if any
sort of mortal normal person tried that right like if we tried to do something completely different
from like if me and you now got together and when we're making like a serious drama that is set in
1842 all about i I don't know,
fucking runaway brides or some shit,
people would be like,
that's insane and it won't work.
And it wouldn't work.
Yeah, but Tom, that is true.
It would be dreadful.
It would be absolutely dreadful.
The only thing I would say in your case,
I'm not just saying this to...
God, I really am talking like I've done half a grammar.
But what I would...
What I would say to you is,
I do think you did sort of do that with Merging Successful,
if I'm being honest with you.
Because it was different to anything that's come out before.
But we've had examples of things happening
where you did Action Team,
and even with me doing Avoidance or whatever,
because it's slightly different to what
people are expecting
you to make
it's horrible
isn't it
it's horrible
it's so fucking
you go into it
you go into it
going
do you know what
I'm going to do
something a bit different
and I think people
are going to be
pleasantly surprised
and then it comes out
and it's like
this is not
what I wanted
from Romesh Ranganathia
oh god by the way we got loads of positive I'm not on a neg about that It's like, this is not what I wanted from Romesh Ranganathri. Oh, God.
By the way, we got loads of positive.
I'm not on a neg about that.
But I'm just saying, you know, some of the responses you get are funny.
You ever try that?
Do you ever think that a little bit of a stand up?
Oh, mate, 100%.
I had it, mate.
I had it where, like, when I started writing Cynic's Mixtape,
the tour I've just finished,
I was doing previews at the Horth
where you were kind enough to come and support me.
But this is, like, even before that.
This is, like, when I was first writing the show.
And I did an hour of new material
in the small room.
And I died.
Like, proper stank out the room.
Like, nothing worked.
Flop, flop worked flop flop flop flop
all of it right
I mean you know
couple of laughs
here and there maybe
and me referencing
how shit it was going
but apart from that
just death right
and my mum was there
with a mate of hers
right
and they came over
to me afterwards
and my mum obviously
thinks that everything
I do stand up wise
is incredible
she goes oh my god
it's all good
I love the new stuff
and I'm like okay
I'm trying to I fucking absolutely died and then her mate goes her mate weirdly my mom's mate is
about our age but she goes um why don't you do the stuff that you used to do like have you thought
about doing that doing more of that and it really just made me like think fucking hell that is what
people do people just want you to keep doing the same or they think they want you to keep the same to keep doing the same shit right
yeah but then they just say didn't i i like you know when you watch certain people and like stand
up and some people you like you know there's people that you watch and you're like fuck wow
and like you're one of those people i watch you like nurture an idea or something on stage and
make it grow and then like the stuff that from the cynics mistake
like i was lucky enough to see really early on to then see now as stuff and a fully formed idea
and there's stuff that when we were doing the work in progress stuff i'm like oh man i can't
wait to see where ron goes with this to there but the other day i was watching someone you know
it sounds really harsh i don't mean to be a bit like and you're in some stance that's flat and
you just feel like there's no energy in it at all and you're like oh my god am i like that
you know when you're like it's sort of sometimes you are yeah yeah
i asked for that sorry then i start looking at and thinking how do i rev this up a little bit
how do i make it it's really difficult man it's like you know we
sort of it's a difficult conversation to have and it's probably like we won't we won't get to the
bottom of it in in this podcast but like that whole thing about creativity i just find it like
um it's like kevin bridges gave me some amazing bit of an amazing bit of advice right he said he
just said to me like when you're doing your new material gigs he goes you've got to die you've got to eat shit like he goes you've got to like
that's going to the gym he goes those people those people that come to those work in progress gigs
they're coming to watch you take risks and like fuck about and blah blah and the more you do that
the better and he goes because then if you don't do your temptation is to not take risks and not die.
And, you know, we can all I don't mean this in an arrogant way, but we can all all competent stand ups can write a load of stand up comedy that would just make people that will work on a surface level.
You know, set up, punch, set up, punch, set up, punch. Most comedians worth their salt can do it.
Yeah. The true challenge is, can you do something that's interesting? Can you do true challenge is can you do something that's interesting can you
do something that's
can you do something
that's funnier than
that can you do
something that's more
interesting that can
you do something that
like just makes people
feel knackered or
like just from just
fucking wrung out
from laughing and
blah blah blah and
so in order to do
that you have to take
risks you have to do
something you wouldn't
normally do you might
have to I don't know
I'm oversimplifying you
might have there might
be a bit where you do
a dance there might be a bit where you do you know i mean whatever whatever it
is if you don't take those risks in the work in progress gigs and when you're putting that shit
together he said to me then when you come to do your actual tour you regret not doing that back
in the thing and i think it's like that day that day i was watching this david bowie interview and
it's like he said something so fucking amazing. He's going, if you feel comfortable with what you're doing,
he goes,
you're not pushing yourself enough.
He goes,
you've got to go far enough
out in the water
that you just feel
a little bit,
slightly,
almost out of your depth.
You're slightly unsure.
And he goes,
if you start to feel like that,
that's where you've got to stay
and that's where you've got to work.
And that, to me, man,
is like the thing.
And I've,
by the way,
I've not got anywhere near this.
And, you know, I've had half a gram now,
which is why I'm sort of really getting into this.
You're really getting into Bowie.
I am fascinated by that, that creating shit, man.
That kind of, that action towards it.
Yeah, man, that's because you were in that business, right?
Yeah, but I've got nowhere near to it.
You know, I'm nowhere near as good the comic as I want to be. you know that's it yeah but then without be worrying if you were right yeah it
would be yeah and look this all started because tom started watching night in a day fiance so
that's how this podcast goes guys you just never know i've been pushing myself with what i'm
watching there's the vibes that i'm watching the things that i'm fucking into right now
yeah yeah um is the how's that second beer is it what i'm thinking about opening the second bottle of water okay i
might go and get another bottle of beer you know because it's like what you've moated through two
beers well they're minis like look at this it looks like look look look how look at the size
of it that is small that's a small it's a minute actually we should yeah we should probably get a
picture of you with that just for just for, the laughs, the shits and giggles.
Let me just get it.
Hold up two seconds.
I'm getting out of the water.
I've been doing a weird thing
where I keep waking up at 3.15 every morning.
Yeah, I saw that.
Is it 3.17 or something?
I can't remember what you put up on it.
Hold it right up.
That's a nice picture, actually.
Do you know what?
Send that to me.
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Okay, should we do some emails?
Let's do it, G.
Oh, by the way, do you know who looks amazing right now?
Who?
Bobby Zamora.
Yeah, I saw him the other day.
I don't recall thinking he looks amazing.
He's always looked in pretty good nick, hasn't he?
Mate, Bobby Zamora's body, I'd say,
is up there with the top ten bodies in the world at the moment.
Top ten bodies in the world?
It's incredible, man.
Bobby Zamora looks absolutely fire at the moment.
Okay.
I'm saying now, everyone go onto Bobby Zamora's page and have a moment. Okay. Like, I'm saying now,
everyone go onto Bobby Zamora's page and have a look,
because that guy's stacked nice.
What an incredible thing to say.
Okay.
Let's go
let's go to emails
this is from
the sow
fucking hell
what a sow
isn't a sow
that's a female pig right
correct yeah
of course
what would you
no just sign you sign over at yeah okay yeah that's right yeah okay so Isn't it South? That's a female pig, right? Correct, yeah. Of course.
No, just so I knew, so no, we're out.
Yeah, okay, yeah, that's where we're at, yeah.
Okay, so, hi, guys.
Absolutely love the pod.
It's the highlight of my week.
I know you guys have had some issues with your self-esteem and your weight, etc.
So I wanted to ask your opinion.
My fiancé is very active.
He's a climber, runner, gym-goer.
I, however, have three children between the ages of five and ten and work full-time as a nurse.
I have very little time to exercise,
but I suppose that's an excuse.
Hmm.
Last week,
he told me that he wanted me
to tone up
and lose weight
to the weight I was
when we met.
Of course,
I've been very upset over this
and been questioning my self-worth.
I mean,
you refer to yourself as the sow
on this email.
I've agreed to try as much as I can,
but I am more than my weight.
We've worked through this, but let me think how other couples navigate this do you think it's important to look
good for your partner if so how important can't wait to hear your answers it'll really help me
uh carry on being the sweet sweet souls that you are much love the sound tom davis i am not gonna
even think about calling you to south i don't think it's helpful or a decent thing to do. Well, you asked me to clarify it so they knew
exactly where we were.
But that was before I heard the email.
I'm going to call you the Peacock.
I genuinely thought you were going to say
pig.
What kind of guy do you think I am?
I don't want to define you by gender
so I'm just going to refer to you as a pig.
No, go on.
This is the Peacock. I think, number one, I don't want to define you by gender so I'm just going to refer to you as a pig no go on this is a peacock
I think number one
your husband shouldn't have said what he
said in the way that he
phrased that, I don't think that's fair
I think saying something like that
is
not very tactful
you've had three children with him
and I think it's fair to say that, you know,
if you're not feeling, I think it's got to come down to how you feel.
If you're not feeling good about yourself and you want to make a change,
then do that for you.
But do that for the right reasons.
Do that to be, like, all joking aside,
and we talk a lot about here about body issues.
And I think me and Romesh, I don't know why,
whether it's
because of the um the podcast or what but i i've certainly lost weight and i've i feel better about
myself but a lot of that's just been down to the fact having a child and taking stock of my life
and trying to eat a bit healthier and just trying to be a bit more active certainly wasn't a
situation of like the people who've, like said things to me,
or you've got to make that change yourself.
If you want to make that change,
I think if he does all these,
the activities he does,
I think he should be more,
you know,
the way of doing it would be maybe finding something that you did together.
That was a bit more active.
And I think that he should be a little bit more understanding.
I think like, I don't know if I phrased this right,
but I just think that there's a way of talking to people
and I think there's a way of having that conversation
without you feeling bummed out and without you feeling low.
And, you know, speaking from personal experience,
I think it won't spark the reaction I think he's after
in you to turn around and go,
right, I'm going to do this and do that.
Whereas actually I think doing it with love and compassion
and putting an arm around you and saying, well, let's do this and let's do that
and making it fun would be a way of doing that.
But, you know, and I've said this a million times and it's true,
just be you and be happy in you.
And if there's a time when doing doing that you you want to
tone up or you want to lose weight as he said then do it and if you don't don't be like be the person
the incredible wife and mother that he has and he's very lucky to have that um peacock
peahen really is what we should refer to her as. But listen, your fiancé,
obviously your fiancé is your fiancé
because he's a nice person
and you're obviously in love with him,
but I really think he's fucking bang out of order here, man.
Like, he's so fucking out of order.
It's unreal.
You've had three children, yeah?
You're a nurse.
You're working so much.
You're bringing up three kids.
This guy's taking the fucking piss.
He's taking the piss.
Your email says,
last week he told me that you wanted me.
He doesn't get an opinion in this.
He doesn't get to tell you
what he wants you to do with your body.
Fuck him.
It's like, you can't say that.
If he's got a problem with it and it's a deal breaker,
then split up.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, if you can't deal with the fact that people's bodies change
and it's up to that person how they look after their body,
then fuck off.
Do you know what I mean?
Look, I don't want to be horrible because he's your fiancé for a reason.
I'm purely basing this
on this example and he's he's so he's fucking out of order he is out of order like tom says if you
want to change if you felt like you wanted to lose weight and that's the reason why tom lost weight
because tom wanted to lose weight i lost weight because i wanted to lose weight right nobody told
me to nobody told tom to right we wanted to do it and right? Nobody told me to. Nobody told Tom to, right? We wanted to do it.
And I'm going to tell you this,
like, there's other problems with it,
because, like, I've had to,
you start going to the gym,
going to the gym, exercising,
it's a very selfish thing to do.
Do you know what I mean?
Because you're doing something on your own,
you're not benefiting anybody else.
I've tried to, like, make it better
by going with my brother,
so use it as a bit of quality time with him but you're sacrificing time with your family to do
that do you mean like you are taking that time away and like it's not that's the other thing
about if you've got three kids it's like yeah maybe he should squirrel down on his heart i have
literally like it's weird you saying that me and katherine that's one thing like with grace now
it's like right i'll have an hour, then you have an hour.
In the morning, you both try and do that.
But if one of you gets to do it and the other one doesn't,
it does become a bone of contention because you are like,
well, you're having that time of yourself.
Yeah, it's been an issue.
It's been an issue.
Like, you know, looking at it from Tom's point of view,
he's only really got time to do one or two international golf tournaments
a month, do you know what I mean?
Because of all the commitments he's got.
You know, so it's like like it's a tricky one i just think look i just think if you had said to your fiance i feel bad about my body i want to lose some weight and by the way i'm not saying any
of those things are right i feel bad about my body i want to listen i'm not saying those things but
if you did feel like that and your fiance went i I'll support you and help you do that. It doesn't even sound like he's asking to help you do that.
Sounds like he's dictating to you that he wants you to do that. That's based on your email. I
don't know how he's done it. You do not, do not ever question your self-worth again. All right.
He needs to question his self-worth because he's fucking bang out of order. I'm telling you. All
right. So what you need to
do, listen, my advice to you is, and I know it's easier said than done, is you make a decision as
to whether you want to lose weight or not. Right. And whether you've got the inclination, because
it's not about wanting to lose weight. It's about, do you want to take that time away from the other
things that you do with your life to do that? If you don't, you need to say to him, I'm not doing
that. What are you going to do about it? Do you know what I mean? Because he can to do that if you don't you need to say to him i'm not doing that what
you're going to do about it do you mean because he can't do that it's just fucking out of order
it's out of order so peahen you're fine as you are you're a glorious person we've got a lot of
respect on this podcast for nurses you're bringing up three children your fiancee needs to accept
that your body changed when you have three kids the day that he squeezes
three kids out of him
and he's got exactly the same body type
that he had beforehand, then he can fucking talk
otherwise keep your mouth shut
dickhead
I'm just basing that purely on this email
I'm sure he's a nice bloke, otherwise he wouldn't be his fiance
ok, good luck peahen
any other day
if that had been
like Mello Ron
but Cocaine Ron
he doesn't fuck around
honestly
this party is live
I love the idea
of you walking around
Quinta del Lago
after this
trying to find this guy
you've seen him
yeah
where is this guy
I've talked to his wife
people have kids
people have kids
and their bodies change you fucking
rat
Romance that's a
tree
that's a rubber
tree Romance
let me just
what's wrong
what are you
I kind of love
tough Rom
well I'm not
actually tough
I'm just sorry
I just love the
idea of by the
end of this
podcast you've
got like a
fucking goatee
this is from the vaquita vaquita can you look this up i don't know what this vaquita
let me have a look vaquita vaquita oh it's like uh oh wow it's a porpoise oh yeah very cute oh god
quite geez quite um what the fuck is that?
Quite weird as well,
because obviously what we've been talking about today.
Hmm.
All right.
The Vaquita says,
Wolf, Owl, Swan and Cat.
I'm going to just start reading
and hopefully Tom will stop looking at the photos.
He's looking at little G, sleeping.
Oh, that's...
Oh, that's Grace.
Look at her.
Grace's reading is a are normal it says there uh
what are you doing what are you what are you trying to what are you trying to do with her
grace's readings are normal stranger things shit that's something i fucking deep blue sea
um wolfhouse one and cat want to start by saying love the podcast i started when i trained for the
marathon last year i had to stop running a few times because just laughing so much uh your advice
always seems to be on points.
To that end, I'm after some now.
I'm a guy in my mid-30s, married, and have three children.
Recently, I've been getting a strange feeling in my chest.
I wouldn't say it's painful, but it just beats fast sometimes,
and I could twitch.
Something doesn't feel right,
and I do have a history in my family of heart disease.
My problem is that if I do something wrong that can be managed,
it's a strong possibility I'll no longer be able to do my job
as I'm an HGV driver.
Things are the way the world is at the moment, I couldn't afford to take a pay cut
or lose my job completely.
So my question is, what do you think I should do?
Go to the doctors and see and risk my
job or leave it and see how it plays out and have you
guys ever ignored health issues in the hope it went away?
I haven't told my wife as I know she would drag me
down there by my ear so it's best I stay anonymous
just in case. The Vaquita.
Vaquita. Vaquita. Vaquita vaquita vaquita vaquita
get your fucking ass down the doctors now son um that you're a wife a lovely wife and you've got
kids man and although like you're doing a commendable thing and you're trying to
you know you you need to keep money coming in they need you more than anything else like that's
the shit that really really counts you being
around and like you know it could be nothing or it could be something um so i think you yeah get
yourself down to the doctors talk to your wife as well um and get yourself down there because
just don't play with that shit man not only come to the old jam tart the old heart and if there's heart disease in your family
it's uh yeah it's not a game of risk you should be playing mate so get yourself down there and
like like i say in life you know hopefully you um hopefully it's nothing you know you're all fine
if it is something i'll pray life has a way of sorting itself out.
Yeah,
it's better that than what the alternative is.
Yeah.
Vaquita,
my dad did something very similar to you,
which is that he had a heart condition and he hid it.
And it ended up becoming a massive problem.
So my advice to you is get it sorted out.
Like Tom says,
it's better that you find out what's going on, even if there a problem and you get it sorted out as soon as possible and then you can work everything else out afterwards i just
don't think anything takes precedence over your health and um you want to be around for your
family so uh the reason that your wife would drag you down and by your ears because it's the best
thing to do so um get yourself sorted out, man.
Please.
Please.
From the wolf and the owl.
Love you, G.
Get yourself sorted.
Okay, take care.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Good luck, Vaquita.
Is Lisa still doing emails on holiday?
Have she taken a couple of weeks off?
Why do you say that?
I'm just asking.
There's one still.
Why?
Do you think that email was...
No, I think it was a good email
but quite heavy,
quite far.
It was quite far. But then I know that Lisa must be because you've not read
that one before, so... What do you mean?
Well, you hadn't obviously read that one
because you were as surprised as I was. Yeah, I was
very surprised. Okay, here
we go. Next email.
What were you laughing at?
Like, you're
such a rollercoaster at the moment.
I love...
I love the idea that 11 o'clock tonight,
Theo will come out to bed and he'll just be spanked
or lying sleeping in his bed.
Do you know what I'll do?
After we finish this, I'll just carry on recording myself
on my own for another couple of hours,
just because I've got things that I think I need to share.
Dad, Tom's been off the Zoom for a while.
Shut up!
Just time for the owl to have a little bit of a chat all right just leave it just leave it okay this is from the liger well
it says dear wolf alan swan first a huge fan of the podcast one of the only podcasts that regularly
has me howling with laughter in public i've only been listening a few months a couple of months starting from the
beginning currently in around episode 70 i love it i'm currently on a short holiday away with my
fiance and the topic of peeing in the pool came up and the fiance couldn't believe i hadn't been
to the loo all day after having several beers i told her i'd said i had several times but done
it whilst in the pool i think it seems silly to get out of the pool when it's all water at the end of the day
and it's filled with chemicals cleaning it
and I've been told that
I've been told that piss is sterile
so I don't get the big deal
we'd love to get your thoughts on this
Tom definitely
Tom definitely seems like he pisses in the pool
Rom I've got a feeling you'd rather get out and go to the toilet
kind regards the Liger
Tom Davis
yo I piss in the sea all day long
I'm not a pool pisser I love a piss in the sea all day long, right? Correct. I'm not a poor pisser.
Not correct.
I mean, I don't know.
That's what you're just saying.
I love a piss in the sea, right?
But poor pisses, I'm not a big fan of.
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also i'm always worried about pissing in a public pool
and the blue cloudy stuff coming out.
So you have thought about it?
Yeah, but then I'm like, if that came out, I'd be mortified
and you'd just never be able to go back to that swimming bath again, right?
That's the deal.
Is that why you wouldn't piss in a swimming pool?
Yeah.
That's why you wouldn't piss in a swimming pool.
Do you know what?
When I was reading
the email
I saw your look
of agreement
and I thought
okay Tom and I
are on the same
page on this
and then you
came out with
the reason why
and the reason
is you don't
want to get
banned from
Loughborough
Lido or whatever
no no but I
think if
that would be
mortifying right
yes it would be
mortifying
I have been in a
pool as well
when I swam
behind someone i'm pretty
sure he's pissed it's been quite warm okay no cloudy stuff came out but i was still worried
about taking a risk what do you mean taking a risk what's the risk or pissing and then like if
oh so what so sorry you you you swam in the slipstream of somebody pissing it pissing but
no cloudy stuff came out yeah but it was warm maybe and then you thought okay it's okay to piss
yeah but you still didn't risk it i still didn't risk it just in case i worry like now i
want to do it i mean jesus man like the other week oh actually fucking hell like the other week i
know grace did about three pisses and a poo in the pool obviously she's a baby sure actually she did
the worst poo ever on uh uh we were up for sunday sunday lunch this week and she did a massive poo
we actually were sitting on the sofa and she just looked at me smart and just like it was
i had to wait me and kathleen to walk her out of the pub like carrying her into the changing area
it was every i literally had to do a salvage job of cleaning off a sofa like with people watching
just with the spray it was awful but yeah look but she doesn't know
any better bless her when it comes to the pool stuff i i don't kind of fundamentally agree with
it but the reason i don't piss the big big reason is yeah i wouldn't i literally would never want
to be caught i feel like i've got an installed dimension here pissing in a swimming pool is
fucking disgusting it is is disgusting. What?
What?
Like,
Liger and you,
what are you talking about?
Pissing into a swimming pool?
No,
you don't stand in pissing.
You piss it when you're
swimming and stuff.
You're pissing in a swimming pool
where other people
are going to swim
and where you're going to swim.
It's fucking disgusting.
Have you not pissed
in the one that you've got in Portugal?
No, never, and nor would I ever.
In fact, I'll go as far
as to say, I once
pissed in a swimming pool when I was a kid
and that was an accident.
I just don't...
Sorry, why is it okay to piss in a swimming
pool? It's piss.
It's piss.
Here's one for you right here's one for you
it's piss
ok
here's one for you
just hear me out
ok
right
what's your all time
lap record
for doing lengths
how many lengths
is your all time length
sorry mate
I think
you've made the mistake
of thinking
you're talking to somebody
that doesn't have a life what the fuck
are you talking about
what is my what
what is the most amount
of links you've done
I've got no idea
I've got no
right so
right let's just say now
right you're
you're nearly getting to
fucking I don't know
for you like 25 30 links
right
such a dickhead
yeah go on
right you're like you get to 25 30 links yeah and you, like 25, 30 lengths, right? Such a dickhead. Yeah, go on.
You get to 25, 30 lengths, and you're like, oh, fucking hell.
You're on 27 lengths, right?
This is your all-time score.
Lisa and the boys are... By the way, I now know where this is going.
Go on.
They're all cheering you on, right?
And then you're like, fucking i need a piss real real bad
right are you gonna tell me now you wouldn't fucking go i need to get to the end i need to
do 30 lengths like for my family cheering so i will just take that fucking piss and just fucking
finish it tom i i wouldn't take a piss in the pool if i was in the fucking olympics let alone
in front of the rest of the olympians piss in the pool if I was in the fucking Olympics, let alone in front of the rest of the race.
Wait, all the Olympians piss in the pool.
I'll tell you, I'll bet on the bottom dime.
Fine, fine, fine.
And the PT people all piss in the pool.
They don't piss in the pool.
Of course they do.
Like the adrenaline.
You don't know what it's like.
So, Tom, what...
I do know what it's like to have adrenaline,
and it doesn't make you piss.
In fact, quite the opposite.
I wish I hadn't said quite the opposite.
But what I mean is...
Look what I'm telling you right now, right?
It doesn't make you piss.
Are you telling me now, if we got Adam Peaty on this podcast,
and he said, like, have you ever pissed in a pool?
Message him now.
I'm going to message him now.
I guarantee he won't reply by the time we finish,
but let me just...
Well, yeah,
but it'll be a nice little
sort of feeder
and we'll forget all about it
for the next podcast.
Yeah, I'll never mention it again.
I mean,
it'll be another one
of those runners
alongside the
shouting out small businesses
that we're doing so well on.
So the point is...
Jesus Christ!
The point is,
I think it's disgusting
to pee in a swimming pool.
People, could you get in touch and let us know what you think?
Wolfoutpod.gmail.com.
Is it okay to piss in a swimming pool?
I think it's rank.
And Tom thinks it's fine.
You know, if there's any one night that you should watch Wolf of Wall Street,
it's tonight.
Why?
We just, like, you're in a very Wolf of Wall Street.
I'm not happy with how...
I'm now three for three not being happy
with how I've been on this podcast.
You know what I love, right?
You've been essentially three different fucking people
in the last three weeks.
I feel like
at the moment I'm in a situation
where I fucking turn up to this podcast
and I don't know who I'm going to be fucking performing with
Jesus
um
okay
oh
um
oh god
um
right it's about that time.
You are, but you're essentially becoming Kanye West at the moment.
Yeah, I don't know.
You've changed that the whole way of doing the podcast
over the last three weeks.
Shout out, Rob.
Shout out, my guy, Kanye.
Yo.
All right, Tom, take us out.
Well, how's our house?
And how's the bill?
It's easy to walk into someone's house
and look at the pretty paintings that sit upon the wall
or study the TV that they spend thousands of pounds on
that just fills a really, really nice wall.
It's easy to walk around the kitchen
and look at their island that sits in the middle of their kitchen
or the tiles that languish on the floor.
It's easy to judge them by the pots and pans
or the sweet, sweet French window type things, sliding doors.
What are they called?
I don't know. I don't know what you're talking about.
Yeah, you know the really expensive sliding doors at Walmart.
Sash windows, is it? No.
Yeah, it's easy just to walk around their bedrooms,
check out their silk sheets,
or their en suite bathroom with an incredible bath or a shower but you know what
it's really tough to do it's really tough to really look deep look in the fit look at the
footings on which the house sits the bricks on which holds its stir and holds it sturdy
in the wind and in the storms that come.
That's a little bit like society in a way.
It's easy to judge society by the pretty things,
by the tokens of glamour that sit higher up the chain than most.
But actually, the truth of the matter is,
the things that hold society up are the bricks and foundations.
Look for the bricks and foundations in your life,
the people who make the storms feel a little further away,
and do yourself the justice of being a brick or some decent fittings for a friend.
I thank you.
That was really all over the place
wasn't it
but I really liked it
really good
yeah it's kind of like
sort of
yeah
like I say
it's
I'm kind of buzzed out
a little bit
yeah
so what
what's going on
I've had a few beers
so yeah
you've had a few beers today
yeah yeah
so I feel kind of
I'm very chill
yeah it's funny you say that because we've got an email going we didn't get to this email you've had a few bits today yeah yeah so I feel kind of I'm very chill right now
yeah
it's funny you say that
because we've got an email
going
we didn't get to this email
we often don't get to
the emails
said I don't know why
this is about the
part of the episode
where I stood up
I don't know why
but today's episode
was fantastic
maybe it was wrong
standing up
maybe the pressure was off
because Tom
Tom because he found
an extra day
there was something
there and the chaotic
energy was brilliant
I do think we've,
and it's been quite chaotic today,
I think it's going to need a heavy edit from JT.
Something Tom...
Something Tom said got me thinking.
At one point he said it felt like you were both drunk,
so my question to you is,
do you have any plans to do a pod
where we're slightly pissed?
It would be amazing.
Well, we kind of have done that, I guess.
Yeah, but I think we should probably do a real proper one. We do a drunk one. We do a couple while slightly pissed, it would be amazing. Well, we kind of have done that, I guess. Yeah,
but I think we should probably
do a real proper one.
We do a drunk one?
We do a couple of beers and so on
and then go to the studio
and really enjoy it.
Fine,
we'll do that.
Okay,
guys,
thank you so much for listening.
JT,
I apologise.
I don't do drugs,
so that could be your party.
Fuck off.
Can I,
for our song,
this isn't like
a feel good song
but it's a song
that I've been listening to
it's Loyal Kana
it's got a new album
coming out very soon
and the song
I'd like to play
is Hate
it's just really really good
nice
JT could you play us out
with that
guys thank you so much
for listening
I apologise once again
I'm three for three
shit performances
on the podcast
take care of yourselves
see you soon
bye bye
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