Wolf and Owl - S2 Ep 24: New Tattoos & Travel Meltdowns

Episode Date: December 14, 2022

We’re talking… Wolf & Owl tattoos, Tom’s real-life Planes, Trains and Automobiles ordeal, customer service meltdowns, bizarre complaining styles, coming home to curry and the correct number of papadums to order. Then, after some World Cup commiserations and celebrations, we answer email questions on shaving all your hair off and being comfortable accepting help from your parents. For questions or comments please email us at [e-mail] - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List- https://wolfandowlpod.com/ A Shiny Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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the podcast legend of a man could watch you should all go and watch taste cadets he does it with my guy deeper um and kieran but marcus is like by the way i look through his other stuff he's done some serious some of his i'm thinking about getting a mark maybe she gets he does good tattoos as well, doesn't he? Mate, they're banging. They're so,

have you seen the Ian Wright one? No. Oh mate, Ian Wright one's sick. I'm, I'm serious. I've not been really thinking about getting a tat. And then I just saw Marcus's and it's really giving,

you know, like when you, we should do, we should get a tattoo of each other. Oh, you know what happens if people do that in, if they get married and get tattoos of each other? They split up.

Yeah, they split up. Yeah, but what a nice memory of a podcast that we once ran together. Where would you, if I was going to get a tattoo of you, I'd probably have it on my hip. Yeah, I think I'd have it on my right arse chip. Could you get me on your right arse chip, but like I'm peering out from your arse crack? That's a great idea.

Just like, have you put your pebble in? Little speech bubble. Don't forget a pebble. I actually consider doing that. Mate, I would see it. If we were going to do it, we should do it. How many tattoos have you got? I've only got one.

Do you know what? Before COVID, I had a whole shoulder piece and like down sort of like arm piece designed that Catherine had sorted, like, and COVID hit and I just didn't get done. And if I'm honest with you, I've been like, I've always thought I wouldn't mind getting like something. And then it's only really looking at, because I quite like that, the sort of the outlines. I quite like that. It's sort of the...

Silhouetting. Yeah, they look good man it's just i don't know how painful the ass would be because i got i've got a few i've got richard prower on my forearm and that was like a six hour job and i happily sat there and read a book while while she did it yeah yeah uh but um i then got i then got the autobot logo on my calf, and that was really painful. So I don't know. That will have hurt, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then, yeah, there's a few places that I think, and now looking at that, I was like, yeah, so shout out Marcus. Yeah, shout out Marcus. I think his handle is Marcus. We need to name the guy who got the tattoo he's had his

he's had us on his body yeah can you let us know who that is and actually because Marcus is coming on the 7th to the London show okay

so he can do the tattoo then that can be the show we don't have to do any content oh wow whoa whoa my god you just saved us

ever having to think. We just get the tap markers to come, do a little tap each. Yeah. Before the show. Yeah, we can unveil them on stage. Just talk about that for the hour. Then we're done.

Peace! Did you say you had it on your thigh and it hurt? No, on my calf. On the back of my calf. See, calf ones, I like a leg tap. Yeah.

I was looking at a leg tap guy and i think yeah that's the kind of guy i want to be friends with yeah okay well should we get tats done it's markers can you let us know if you're able to do tats yeah i'll reach out to you marcus shout out marcus yeah um and shout out taste cadets yeah shout out to us now uh tom tell me you have had quite the adventure, my guy. Mate, I've been in, my favourite movie of all time, one of them anyways, Transplains are All My Dirt, me and you have talked for nearly 10 years about how me and you remake that movie. We've become obsessed about it. I'd say obsessed, obsessed

to the point of not writing a single line of dialogue, but... Also obsessed to the point of me and you that we have a few beers and chat about stuff but one of us gets drunk and we text each other usually around this time of year when one of us is about this time of year you and i'll have about what six or seven film ideas that never go anywhere because we because we're not doing anything else we break for christmas and we both go oh shit we should do more we should do more stuff together should we talk about it now and then our diaries fill up and we're never able to do it should we do that again should we do that she mentioned it to flow should we say to flow and we're never able to do it. Should we do that again? Should we do that? Should we mention it to Flo? Should we say to Flo and then Flo can try and work it in alongside all the other shit that we do?

Also, it's hard enough just to get an hour aside just to do this. But yeah, so literally, I'm coming back Sunday. I'm like flying back to England, right? Buzzing to be getting home, being away for eight weeks. What a horrible eight weeks it's been for us in the UK, by the way, in your absence.

Yeah. Thank you. You know, I think now people realise how much they need me. And away from Catherine and Grace for 10 days, dying to see them. I get, get on the flight,

the BA flight, and it sort of dawns. I didn't realize, I sort of knew that there was a bit of snow over it. I didn't realize quite, just as I was getting a plane, it was almost as I got on the plane, the snow got worse and worse and worse.

So there was this whole thing there of like, actually, we're just going to, we've just been pushed back a bit. We've just been, so my flight was meant to take off at like 5pm. And at 11 o'clock that night uh we're still sitting on the runway hold on did you get on the plane on time yeah i got on the plane on time right and then we just all sat there so i got on plane it must have been half four got on a plane yeah we just sat there with this poor captain shout out the captain actually because he was a g and all the crew they were really nice

um that and that's as well as nice as I want to speak at BA because actually the people behind the scenes are a travesty but

so we sat there and then you know that bit in Planes, Trains and Automobiles where John Candy turns to Steve Martin and I think he says something about

you know almost like my right nut we're not getting home tonight, type thing. Yeah. This plane isn't landing in Chicago. I had that moment.

There's this lovely man who's sitting next to me, Vincent. And then there's just almost, it sort of dawns on everyone that we're not going to get home. We're not going to get, because he was sort of,

the pilot, to be fair, up until about quarter to 11, he was pretty hopeful that we'd make it. And then it just, it snowballed into an absolute shit show. So what was the problem exactly? Cause they couldn't land in Gatwick cause of the snow. Gatwick, Gatwick is, uh, listen, I live very near Gatwick as you know, but I would say it seems to have a disproportionate number of issues for the size of it.

Yeah. It's, and also they couldn't land anywhere after that. So and then the crew obviously had to go into turnaround. Were you planning on popping around by the way, bearing in mind that I left like 10 minutes in there? Well, I hadn't been invited. You know, I didn't know you're landing at Gowerick actually. So I was gonna try and turn that on to you. But I couldn't know. To be fair, it'd be

lovely to come and stay at your stay at your last night. You're more than welcome whenever you want. It's an open invitation to you, as you know. That beautiful, beautiful big crib. Get some of that fucking... I could have chilled in your spa from it. So, basically, we then just left for, like, an hour in the airport, just, like, what's going on, where they're trying to sort out hotel rooms and transport to this hotel.

And I was standing with a guy who's just chatting to me about football men united and this person was going around asking how many like rooms you needed and i was saying this guy so basically they said how many rooms you need i said one right and then they moved i didn't rethink anything of it i then got a cab to this hotel that they were putting everyone in and they tried to force me to share a room with this guy that I'd never met before. Like British Airways were like, oh, you two, all the guys at the hotel was like, oh, yeah, you have a room to share?

I was like, I'm not sharing. It was all because he was kind of up for it. But I was like, well, no, I'm not fucking sharing a room with someone I've never met in my life. And they were like, there's only so many rooms here. I was like, well, I'll just check into another hotel. And they were like, oh, yeah, many rooms here. I was like, I'll just check into another hotel. And they were like, oh yeah, but then you might miss the pick up date tomorrow. Genuinely, honestly, for about 20 minutes.

Is this legit? Yeah, mate, I swear. It looked like I was going to share a room with this guy that I'd never met in my life before. Who, it seemed... I mean, in fairness to him, I can't imagine he was delighted with the result. He seemed more happy about it than I probably was. Oh God. And that to me about it than I probably was. Oh God. And that to me is a red flag right there. And also about to say that I was always going through my head by the way, Catherine and

Grace were men of the stuff flying back with me on that day. And they flew back early because basically they were- Well done by the way for the person of the podcast who pretended you were thinking about anyone else but yourself. No, no, no, no, no. But like all I can pretended you were thinking about anyone else, but you're saying that's good, isn't it? No, no, but all I could think of was, imagine being in this situation with a one-year-old. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah. And Catherine. So I just thought, look, I'm all right here. The hotel room was absolutely, like, a holiday inn would have felt like luxury compared to this place. It looked like they said, oh, there's some food there that we've done for you. It looked like they'd gone through the bins and pulled food out of it. It was disgusting.

As you know, I'm the kind of guy, I like a little egg station. I've got used to the life of it. Yeah, you like a meat station, you like an egg station, you like a crepe station. Yeah, yeah. You're almost exclusively station, aren't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a station kind of guy, but honestly, bro, I was just like, this is insane.

And there was just no communication from BA after that. You kind of had to guess when our flight would be. I then got to the airport yesterday, and they started talking about potentially us having to fly to Paris or Amsterdam. I said, but what do we do when we get to Paris or Amsterdam? And they said, well, we'll have to work it out from there. I was like, that's not really a plan, is it? It's a ridiculous plan to drop fucking 120 people in fucking another country than the one they're

in. Also, at this point, it feels like a refugee plan organized by the government, to be fair. Just keep moving them as near as you possibly can, then move them further away. It felt like it was like, oh, this is one of those recreation cinema, I think people pay a fortune, like an escape room of trains, planes and automobiles. It felt like people spend like fucking five grand to go, oh yeah, make me feel like Steve Martin.

I was like, this is insane. And what you do is he's going to put his hand between your arse cheeks and you're going to say those aren't pillows. Genuinely, when they said to me, you're going to have to share with this guy who by the way in in the train plays in all of our scenario i've always thought i'd be john candy yeah with this guy without a doubt i've become steve martin really that's interesting mate he you were the you were the you were the owl in this scenario. You became owlish. Yeah, yeah. This guy out-wolfed me.

He out-wolfed me. In his face, I could see. Because also, I was in the scenario. I'm sitting there on the plane, and I think, well, there's nothing I can do. My thing with it, there's no point getting angry. I can't shout at anyone. I've got your blessings.

I'm just here on me. I just have to just relax and see what happens, right? So I start playing championship manager. he's in the seat behind me and he starts asking questions about my team you know

RP Lebsic and he starts asking questions so he starts a conversation with a stranger yeah yeah something that you've you've basically said

is one of your golden rules no no I've started conversations no no I've chatted to him before but he gets very interested to the point where he comes to Niels. I'm in the front row. He comes to Niels next to me asking what tactics

I'm playing and stuff. He was a real, like, he loved his football, right? Right. He spent a long time. I mean, look, he was devastated about England going out. Yeah. As were my kids, by the way. Were they?

I had to give them, like, a pep talk. I was like Gareth kids, by the way. Were they? I had to give them like a pep talk. I had to be, I was like Gareth Southgate in the bedrooms. Really? Just like, yeah, having to like,

they were just absolutely gutted, man. It was horrific. Well, yeah. They were just so sad. That's what I was like

in 1990. This time, I watched, I watched the game in the worst surroundings I've ever watched in a game. Go on.

I watched the game, right, in a, I thought it'd be really nice. So it was our last night in Gran Canaria we went out

a few of us shout out my guys Tommy, Cheryl Drake was there Jason Frond so quite a few of us went to watch this watch the game

and I've seen this hotel I've walked past a few times it was quite nice and they had this big screen out in the back like in the back

back of it and it was just full of German French and Scandinavian people oh no that's your worst that's like your worst trip

well they were all cheering for France they were yeah what's wrong with that well because they're not all French there was like literally

all of them who by the way were all communicating in English amongst themselves um like when France scored the

the first goal that people men men of like in their 60s were taking their tops off and running around the fountain they were so happy

that's football that's football mate no it's football if they were French they were German celebrating this it's insane yeah they probably

listened to the fucking podcast from two weeks ago I was just like wow this is but apart from that it was actually quite a quiet place

to watch the football it was a bit like watching the football in the opera yeah obviously people in the opera I've not been to I don't think people

take their tops off when they're at the opera no people on stage might I don't know so anyway I digress

back to the situation at hand so then I'm on the plane yesterday morning and they're talking about potentially dropping us in paris or amsterdam i actually make that sound like we're going to be parachuted in um and then i'd love to see one of those squirrel sites sort of drifted into paris Getting stuck on the Eiffel Tower. It's a fucking huge squirrel that snagged at the top of the Eiffel Tower.

Absolutely enormous. I think they're doing a low-budget King Kong remake. Some are just bringing me nuts. And then, it's only a nit, they get a landing time at Gatwick, right? Yeah. And basically basically some people because it was the plane wasn't uh put up on the boards as being a plane so it was obviously being rescheduled there's some people who got into the airport but then didn't make it onto the plane

so the captain was like oh yeah some people haven't made it onto the plane we're gonna have to take their their luggage off right so they took a load of luggage off yeah at this point i kind of already knew that my luggage had been taken off with it i don't know how to inkling and when i arrived at gatwick last night at fucking whatever it was midnight yeah and stood at the carousel for a fucking hour like it very much felt like all of my fucking 20s late teens and 20s being in the nightclub waiting for someone to make a conversation with me with romantic interest i literally watched this carousel with nothing on going around until one of the baggage handlers whistled across the room and i walked there and he went uh i've been watching you for ages over there uh you know um

and i was like oh yeah and he went, I could have told you about half an hour ago your luggage isn't coming. I said, why didn't you tell me half an hour ago? He said, well,

no, just couldn't be bothered and yeah, my luggage is lost now. They took my luggage. Is it lost loss? Like, what's the chance

you get it back? No, they took it off the plane for some, I mean, the guy at the luggage, have you ever lost luggage before? Yeah,

a few times. It's like, people are ticket inspectors and, you know, whatever, I mean, the guy at the luggage, have you ever lost luggage before? Yeah, a few times. It's like, people are ticket inspectors and, you know, whatever, and luggage people, young people are just,

he had no people skills, this guy. I had like, because it's Grace's birthday, so I got some presents for Grace, I had some bits and bobs, you know, to bring back.

And he just had no empathy. I mean, I get it, because he probably has to deal with people as well. And I was quite chilled by it, but he was just like, yeah, no, okay. The thing is, I think, this is what I think, I think they get hardened by the fact that they deal with enraged people all the time. Yeah, but I was trying to make conversation with him.

I said, are we doing much for Christmas? I was trying to have a little chat with him, but he just gave me nothing back. And he, weirdly, you know what the really weird thing was? He actually looked like Santa Claus. Yeah, there's a lot of kids upset in that airport. A fresh voice can speak to you and open your ears and your mind

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Enterprise is right there with you, around the corner and around the globe. We'll keep you moving forward. Enterprise. For lives and drive. I always think when somebody's like that, I like to try and give them the benefit of the doubt and see them being battered down by the day. Like, I did a Trouble show, show too in Ethiopia a few years ago and the production company books that they booked the flight virus, Istanbul, even though

there's a direct 10 hour flight, but we went via Istanbul, right? So me and the exec producer get on the plane to Istanbul. That flight gets delayed and we missed the connection to ethiopia right so now we're just in istanbul due to shoot start filming the next day so we go to i go to the turkish airlines counter and i go hello we're supposed to get a connection to ethiopia uh from here via your airline and he says, you've missed the flight. Like he said it like it was my fault. I said, yeah, it's Turkish Airlines.

You guys, you sold this as a package and now you fucked it. But like, I was really stressed out because I had to film the next day. But he was like, there's no amount of like, there's nothing I could have done. I could have set myself on fire

and that geezer wouldn't have raised his kind of level of reaction to me. Do you know what I mean? It was just completely, he was completely unreactive. You know, the thing was that I felt like, because the guy at the baggage claim thing and trying to talk my baggage out

was so like that, right? But the crew on the BA flight were lovely. They were incredible. The thing I can, and I found very amusing and that but the crew on the ba flight were lovely they're incredible the thing i can like and i found i sort of i found very amusing was sort of very middle-aged people who are quite sort of clearly quite sort of have quite good jobs and stuff so you know when people lose their shit but they haven't got that aggressive they haven't got the vocabulary or that yeah yeah yeah and it's

like they want to swear they'll sort of come down and sort of they'll go, what's going on? What's going on with this flight? What's going on? And then they're like, you know, oh, we're trying to get an opening so we can fly into Gatwick. And they'll go, oh! No! Just shut up!

Like they want to get the F word out. And they're just really, I'm going to say it, because we say it all the time. But you know, and then it's just like, when the captain, and he was trying so hard on that first night to get us home, you could see he wanted to get home.

And when he'd come on and go, oh, this is your captain speaking. Bad news, I'm afraid. We've been given a 9.30 slot. But if we don't get back by 9.30 to 10 o'clock, it's going to be likely we won't make it home tonight. I'm so, so sorry. I know you want to get back to your family.

And he said this really, but then you hear people in the back, and you're like, oh, oh, oh. One guy, right, he'd had quite a lot to drink, and he came down to the front of the... This is an insane thing to see, right? He was quite a sort of, like, normal, quite respectable guy, guessing he's got quite a good job. He came down to this stewardess, and he said,

what's going on with this flight? What's going on? What is going on? And she said, as the captain said, we can't leave. We can't leave. And he just went, ahhh! And he just walked off.

He did this weird scream. I just snatched down at him. It is mad. It is mad. But when you see, like, how different human beings, and also, may I say, right,

there was a woman, the woman who did the, the announcements, you know when, like, you have someone woman, the woman who did the announcements, you know, like you have someone who, she was in charge. She does all the stuff on the microphone, basically. She's like the emcee of the fucking plane. She had the most boring voice I've ever heard. It was genuinely the most.

Soothing? No, not soothing. Just boring. Like she'd read the same thing 20,000 times. Well, she probably has done. A bit like your thing. Yeah. But like there was no, she was the one done. A bit like your thing. Yeah. But like,

there was no, she was the one on the plane who had no emotion. Yeah. She had nothing. Everyone else was struggling a bit. I mean, do you know what? When I left the plane,

I gave like the, you know, one of those sort of like, you know, little handshakes to the captain. Why did you do that? I gave him a little hug. Why?

Because I was just happy to get home. He was standing there. I just said, yo, mate, thank you so much. And he went, no worries, no worries. I went and he went no worries no worries for skin on skin contact in the age of covid well done he can't do anything about it it's a customer who's been delayed overnight

he's having an emotional moment i've got to do this they also separated by the way people into two different hotels one hotel was on a beach that looked delightful and the other one was a shitty one i went to it was like it was really like interesting how they fucking did that they came to that notion like when i got sent there i was thinking hopefully i've got the nice you know it's a nice hotel and when i went like literally sitting on the plane yesterday, people turning around saying, oh, God, the hotel is beautiful. The breakfast was lovely.

I looked at the breakfast yesterday and I just wanted to cry for every breakfast that's ever been cooked. I wanted to cry for the chickens that had laid the eggs. What was the breakfast? I tell you what, it was a fucking travesty, mate. Was that like a frittata? No, they had a frittata

that looked like it had been kicked around the floor. Like cereal and Tupperware. I'm used, I like to see cereal treated nice. sure. I mean,

you had cereal in frittatas. Yeah. Yeah, what else did you have? Sorry, we're now describing a breakfast that made

you so sad you could cry. So there's frittata, there was a selection of cereals. Yeah. What else did they have in this absolute

fucking war-torn nightmare. The meats were terrible. Selection of meats. Yeah, go on. That were just shit, like really bad. I mean, you wouldn't know that meat. No veg at all. You wouldn't have been able to eat.

You wouldn't have had anything. I'd have had a Tupperware box full of cereal, I think, probably. Just dry. Because I'd have had no almond milk. Oh, they didn't have any of that. Just eating it dry like a cat. Yeah. Having kibble.

I mean, I'd say in general right unless it's our beer on hand the Spanish struggle with their bacon and sausages the Spanish that is an

that is a fucking hell mate mate what a shout that is by the way the Spanish struggle with their sausages and meats

is that what mate if you want a good breakfast sausage and a good bit of bacon, it's worth Spain, mate. I went to Madrid on an exchange trip

and they had a place called Museo del Jamon, which was just all different types of hams and bacons and sausages and shit. Obviously, a mistake to go as a vegetarian and not have the garlic soup.

Yeah, but in all fairness, right? No, no, no. No, no, no. You lecturing me about fucking bacon and sausages. I'm not lecturing you. It's me turning around. That's like me turning around to you and going, oh, let in all fairness, right? No, no, no. You lecturing me about fucking bacon and sausages. I'm not lecturing you. It's me turning around. That's like me turning around to you and going,

let me tell you how to do your sums. Wow. Do you know what I mean? It's a mathematician. I didn't know where you were going to go there. Well done for dodging curry, I would say. Mate, I'd arguably say that I know as much about curry as you do. Well, that's probably true, actually.

Maybe more. I'm saying this now. Tonight, I feast on a curry. I haven't had a curry for eight weeks. I've got a thing that I said on stage last night with regards to curry, right? Yeah. I did a new material gig, Always Be Comedy, shout out James Gill.

I've got to get back with Gillie. Can I just shout out Gillie? Love that guy. Okay, so last night, or the night before the gig, I hadn't written any stuffilly Can I just shout out Gilly? Love that guy Okay, so last night Or the night before the gig I hadn't written any stuff So I just wrote down Lots of ideas I was going to talk about

Some of the ideas Are a bit expansive And some of them aren't really You just sort of go I don't know why I've written this One of the things I wrote That actually did shine with the people Is

You should not be allowed To choose how many pop-a-lums You have at the beginning of a meal Right, now At the beginning When you go to an Indian restaurant. Now, what I'm saying this is, whenever you go to an Indian restaurant, you're absolutely starving. Yeah. Absolutely starving hungry. They go, how many poppadoms would you like?

I think they need to take that out of your hands. Because you're so hungry, you normally go 20. Right? Yeah, yeah. They bring over as many poppadoms as you order. You smash through the poppadoms. Ask for extra chutney if you're a greedy little fuck like me. They have to bring over a bucket of lime pickle.

You smash through that and then they go, what would you like? And you go, mate, I'm fucked. I'm done. I've absolutely fucked it. I've essentially just filled myself up and crisped. Yeah. I think the waiter should go, if you want to enjoy this meal, can I just say probably one per person is fine.

No, no, no, you can't have one poppadom. Well, I'm just freestyling a suggestion. No, no, no, I'd say you need two. Two and a half poppadoms is your up to. Two and a half is, two and a half? Yeah. Two and a half poppadoms. I think if you've got five,

if me and you are going out on Friday, right, there's a good chance a curry will be at the end of the night, right? Right. If we've got five poppadoms, there's a moment that I can't wait for, is that when night right right if we've got five poppadoms there's a moment that I can't wait for is that when we break we have two each

we're laughing and joking a couple of cobras are getting sunk and then there's like one poppadom between us and we break that in half and it'll be like

you know when the fucking Meg MacArthur was signed it'll be a moment of history yeah and then we won't be able to eat our meals this is gonna happen

I will be mate I can't like i can't genuinely i can't tell you how i've missed that fuck like there's nothing like right and like i actually want to cry a little bit when i talk about this that fucking moment when your curry arrives you get your takeaway curry you fucking get it all ready that moment that you can't even fucking you're so eager to eat that first poppadom you can't even wait to put in the chutney so you take that salty bite and then you know deliciousness is in store and like the spices the tap that that like i just can't wait mate

i'm psyched out of fucking my mind i'd like i can't wait for fucking seven o'clock tonight is there any part of you that would do that for lunch? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I want it to be dark cold. I want to put the Christmas decorations up. Like this, right? This coming tonight is like, I just want the ambience just to be perfect. I want to put Did you try getting a curry in Gran Canariaaria i look spanish cuisine is amazing there's stuff that they do incredibly well breakfast breakfast sausages and breakfast meats no okay it's just not happening for you okay and chinese and indian food like i'm like curry is my favorite like that's the food if i was on a desert island i'd be curry that's all i'd have to that'd be the

thing i'd need more than anything okay but what i what I wouldn't be, what I can't do. Apologies, by the way, to Kat and Grace. Anyway, go on. I couldn't, I couldn't besmear

the delicacy of that to my palate. And when you've been six, six weeks without a curry, then I found a, sort of, shout out some people messaged me about

a curry house in Gracon area. And, um, I went there and it just didn't have that feel and i thought i can wait another two weeks i had an incredible experience on holiday in portugal last summer right i found a decent not i found somebody recommended to me a decent a decent curry house

i ordered it it was mate good it quality. Can you imagine the fucking, imagine that the joy of discovering that somewhere you go on holiday, it's got a great curry. Can you imagine what that feels like? That's, that's the one thing I, yeah, that in Chinese,

bit of Thai. You know what Tom, you're making, I'm going to get a curry tonight, bro. You've got your, I'm in. I'm going to come in tonight and then I'm going to come in the 16th with you.

I can't wait for the 16th. I can't wait for the 16th. I can't wait. The drug kept, the Christmas special really, isn't it? It's going to come out on Christmas Day. I don't know. It depends on how JT gets on with the edit. I mean, yeah. I mean, I'm hoping it's good because we're pre-empting it with a pretty low-key episode now, aren't we?

A pretty low key episode now, aren't we? Listen, it's a miss of me not to turn around and say, how are you, my baby? What's going down? What's happening? Oh, me? Oh, me. Thanks.

Well, thanks, Tom. What are we, 29 minutes in? I'm good, mate. I'm good. Yeah. Anyway, time to do the emails no I'm alright I'm alright man you've got a flexy vibe

about you today there's a corner to you I always know when old old Chris Kringle is paying his dues there's an air

of Robert Frankenathan when Christmas is fucking creeping around the corner there's a relaxed vibe to you your last day you're packing down

right on the 16th it's your last day yeah and there's I relaxed vibe to you your your last day you're packing down right on the 16th yeah it's your last day yeah and it's there's i can see it in you that chilled vibe it's very nice bro very nice i can't even think what i've done uh what have i done oh yeah friday night party rom came out again oh where did you go uh i went out in town to watch the Argentina-Netherlands game. And I actually got into a bit of an altercation. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Well, we had a few drinks. I don't know about going out and crawling anymore.

There you go. I've said it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like... Yeah, I mean, every time you seem to go, you make an absolute prat out of yourself or you get in some sort of altercation. First of all, I would say two unacceptable things

happened. The first of which, I was in a bar, went to the tournament. By the way, the Argentina and Netherlands game was absolutely incredible. Probably game of the tournament. It was a banger. Mate, I watched it with some Argentinians from our crew. It was amazing to watch. That Netherlands freak, anyway, this is not a football podcast,

but that Netherlands freak it was unreal. Anyway, so, Can I just say on that, we watched it in this, mate, this Argentinian bar

in Las Palmas. Yeah. Before we ate, and shout out Dave who listens to this, he's one of our crew, he was weirdly supporting Netherlands. So when the Netherlands

scored that free kick, he got up and cheered, but we had, all the chefs were Argentinian in this restaurant and they were cooking our food at this time yeah it's a bold move yeah yeah i was terrified i had i went over to the kitchen and started picking up messy and sort of like letting them know that i knew a lot what did you what did you do in argentina school i cheered did you but you're not argentina yeah but also i want argentina you're not argentinian though it's apart from english there's probably a dutch guy sitting like doing a podcast called

and he's talking to his mate about the fact that he went to some sort of restaurant and there was an english guy in there who was just supporting argentina but he's not dutch i'm supporting lionel method that's what i'm supporting yeah okay. Okay. I love Lionel Messi. I'd love to see him win the World Cup. Anyway, the first thing that happened that was unacceptable was I was taking a piss

and a guy came up to me and like walked behind me and started asking for a photograph and having a chat with me. Why are you having a piss? This is why I'm a cubicle guy now. While I have my dick out. I told you about this.

While I have my dick out. Why are you still fucking showing off around your rhinos when you should be fucking going to a cubicle guy now. While I have my dick out. I told you about this. While I have my dick out. Why are you still fucking showing off around your rhinos when you should be fucking going to your cubicle to take your pisses? No, because people, no, the problem with that is people then think you're going off to do a line or something,

or then you get a knock on the door going, hey, Romesh Ranganathan's in there taking a shit. Do you know what I mean? It's like... Mate, you, there's a, there comes a time though where you can't be a urinal guy. Yeah. Like, that's, it's happening to you now man like you're in the toilet and it's like you're peacocking and everyone's

fucking literally peacocking no but it's like that was the first situation one of my mates said do you want to let him uh finish taking his piss before he does his photo with you is that like one of my was your mate there like watching over you or was he also no he was also taking his piss before he does his photo with you. Is that like one of my, was your mate there like watching over you or was he also, no, he was also taking a piss, but he sort of stepped in on my behalf. I didn't take a mindering with me. Kevin Costner standing by your side.

Anyway, at the end of the night, I did something that I very rarely do. And I'm going to say this now. I, for the last, I would say three years have been out of the post drink, get some food game. I always find it incredibly disappointing and you regret it the next day. So I'd rather just go to bed is the truth.

Yeah. But on this particular night, one of my friends said, should we get some food? particular night, one of my friends said, should we get some food? So we walked across to, uh, this, this kebab place, walk past two girls are having an absolute scrap of their lives. Went in to get some food as I was, as I was walking past a group of lads, one of them stands up and says, and I quote directly, I failed maths because of you, you fucking prick. Right.

Oh, wow. At me. Wow. Some of his mates stood up and sort of like started laughing. And then I said, what? And he said, I failed maths because of you, you fucking prick. Like proper, it was like aggy. Like really aggy.

Wow. Yeah. That's such a fucking meek thing to say. It's a weird slam, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, it's weird. But also it's a weird thing to be holding slam isn't it yeah yeah it's a weird but also it's a weird thing to be holding on to and yet yet be that because actually you think if you carry around that level of aggression and hate there's probably more reasons that you uh you know who knows what

you know failing maths gcc what who knows what that what domino effect that i found all of my gcs i mean if i If I was to pick up every teacher, and I can quite honestly say there's one person to blame for me finding all my GCSEs and that's the guy sitting making this podcast. Yeah, and we know that when you get drunk, he gets shouted at

as well, doesn't he? Just you in the mirror. I've already stumbled over delivering that. You know, it's so fucking right. I do, and I get drunk, stare in the mirror. I've already stumbled over delivering that. It's so fucking right. I do, and I get drunk, stare in the mirror, and just fucking slam myself. The way I said that to you, we all know you. That was like that guy at the airport that can't...

We all know that he gets a bit of a... We all know that he gets a bit of a telling off from time to time, doesn't he? When I heard that guy complaining to the stewardess, I had to double take to make sure that you weren't on the plane. Listen, what's going on? Are we getting back to England tonight?

Mate, I had that once where, like, I was going out with a girl in sixth form. And, like, you know, like, when you're a bit thirsty with your other half because you just can't believe that somebody's going out with you. And we were, she had an argument, one of my mates' girlfriends, and like, it was just weird.

It was just before registration. The two of them ended up squaring up to each other, like having an argument. And my mate and me were sort of stood behind, like just watching. And so they started having an argument sort of like, I can't remember what it was about. And then the girl I was with stormed off and I sort of followed her. And I just thought the whole thing was like mad. And then as we're walking off, she goes, thanks for your support, by the way.

Like that sort of asked you with me because I hadn't stuck up for her. So then in my own tragic, desperate way, I decided I needed to do something about this. So I walked back to my mate and his girlfriend. And because I didn't care and I wasn't really listening to what was going on, I think I just went,

I'm so angry with you! And then just walked off. It was so pathetic, man. Jesus Christ. It was the desperate attempt. And she wasn't even there, my girlfriend. So, like,

I was hoping that somehow oh my god did you hear how Romesh absolutely slams him oh my god he was so passionate

he must really love you you should definitely what did he say he said he was angry about this yeah you should definitely take his virginity

King Neek what I would say is I know that the boys are upset King Nick. What I would say is I know that the boys are upset. Watching football with your family. What's a fucking what one of the great joys in life, I think just sitting there with the boys. They were gutted when Kane missed the second penalty. But just watching. I don't know. Just watching, Lisa and the kids and me watching football is great. It's lovely, man. Did you, because I mean, we talked about this, and I still believe that this team, that there's a level up for this team. I think like this England team, I think like, you know, the ages of them all, I think like, you know,

Bellingham and everyone. Like, how fucking good was Saka, right? How fucking exciting is he to watch I know you're an Arsenal fan so it's like yeah something you asking me about

Declan Rice yeah fuck me man that kid I love him I think like I know everyone's raved about Bellingham

and Foden and fair enough but Saka gives you just so different I love him you know he's just and as a person as well that video of him

asking for a picture of David Bray oh no it's so sweet you just make he just like he feels like you know when you just look at something you just think As a person as well, that video of him asking for a picture of David Brayne Beckham, he feels like, when you just look at something, you just think, mate, you're just a credit to everyone who's brought you up. The other thing is, Jude Bellingham, I know as you said, everyone's raving about him. Did you see him

run straight over to Harry Kane? That's what I love about this England team. That's what I love about it. And I'll tell you, shout out Harry Maguire for an amazing tournament. Let's just say this now, right? Because I'm going to hold my hands up now. I've put the boot in on Harry Maguire in the past.

Yeah, people have. He's had a pretty good tournament, I would say, right? And to come in to play for England and deal with the level of hatred and abuse that guy's got, I don't know, man. Mentally, it's pretty impressive. Do you know what I mean? Because you and I, I'm not criticising you and I. Mental health is a serious thing. But if you and I get one or two negative comments, it's

like a fucking day with me. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, but he said the whole nation was like, why is he playing? Why is he playing? And that's the other thing I don't get, right, is that, and like, the other thing I don't get right is that and like I saw for some reason

even the mainstream media like when they were doing the ratings of the game and stuff oh mate you got a lower score didn't they

mate he was insanely good he was fucking he ripped apart one of the best left backs in not just one of the best left backs

their centre backs were terrified of him the only way I know that you love him I sort of and I know the only one I know is you love him sort of and I love Jordan Pickford and you can never Pickford's been incredible

I just look at Ramsdale on the bench and Ramsdale just excites me as a goalkeeper I love what he's about I love him his distribution's incredible watching for Arsenal this season

and this is nothing against Jordan Pickford because I think he's been amazing for England but I just think Ramsdale could be the best goalkeeper in the world

I think if things go well for him I mean look I'm biased so I'm almost loathe to comment but I love Aaron Ramsdale but what I would say is

I do also love Jordan Pickford and I like I like the way you know I think there's it's unfortunate that it happened

but just after Giroud, do you see Giroud when Giroud had that shot like eight yards out or whatever and Pickford saved it? Yeah. Immediately got up

and just started fucking absolutely dunking. I love it. And also, there's a great clip of him with Harry Kane when the cameras

are coming over. Yeah. I will say this about Giroud as well, actually, that Giroud, when you watch it back, he was one of the few

French players who went over to England. Yeah, he did yeah he did he did he's a classy bloke isn't he and also you know what Harry Kane

came in for a bit of a kick in and for me that's that's just not cool I love that Harry Kane that team you'd have to struggle to

find someone that you didn't think and anyone who's got anything bad to say about Gareth Southgate I think go fuck yourself. As someone who's watched England for all the time I have,

I've had more joy from Gareth Southgate and if he steps down now, I think it'll be an awful, awful shame. The thing about Gareth Southgate, because obviously you see a lot of the fallout and a lot of people, I'm not going to say they don't watch football regularly or they don't know, but a lot of people are going,

about Harry Kane, paid that amount of money and can't even get it on target. Shows such a lack of understanding of the pressure and what he was trying to do. Yeah, also you've got to think he's probably taken 5,000 penalties against Hugo Lloris over the last eight years. So in his head, he's probably overthinking it. Here's the question though. Do you think you should have

taken the second penalty? Yeah, because if I was, if you were going to put your, you know, with the exception probably of Ivan Tony playing professional football at the moment,

if I had a gun to my head and someone said, pick someone to go and score a penalty to save your life, Harvey Cain would be the guy for me. If you look how many times

he's done it for England over the years. I know, I know. Could you imagine the insanity and the poor fucker if anyone else had taken that penalty and missed it we'd have all been going

why is fucking Harry not taking it that's just football and you know what if I'm honest this World Cup I just had no I don't agree

I didn't agree with it from the start of it whatever I found it really hard it was a lot of people a lot of people I know myself included and I know this isn't enough but it from the start of it. I found it really hard. A lot of people I know, myself included, and I know this isn't enough,

but just haven't been able to get into it in the same way. I watched it with a group of really, you know, all of us love our football. And if I'm honest, when England lost, and maybe this is age, and maybe it's just, wow, actually, you know what? I will say as well, I don't think we could have played any better.

And people were saying about substitutions, but who would you have taken off? Everyone was playing well. You know, the thing is about that, and I apologise to Wolfenhauer listeners that aren't football fans or whatever, but the thing that I find mad about the criticism of Gareth Southgate,

and look, you could say that I'm biased because he's from Crawley or whatever and we did like the three-line show or whatever. But the experience of supporting England has been completely revolutionised yeah and I'm not saying that's all down to Gareth Southgate but I would say he's got a lot to do with it the the way that England interact with the media now they're not a closed shop anymore the way that the experiences for those players playing for England you look at that team okay whatever you want to say about how

they performed against France how they performed against the USA whatever you want to say the fact the matter is, they love playing for England in a way that in years gone by, we had a great crop of players who were playing in really difficult circumstances in terms of adversity, in terms of not enjoying being with the squad. Gareth Southgate made that a priority to turn that around, to make it enjoyable to be part of the England camp. And I think people forget that. When they talk about his substitutions, they talk about him being cautious, about him picking his favourites or whatever criticisms they want to level. I think they forget about all the positive things. They assume that

any other manager that you bring in would have all of the things that Gareth Southgate does, plus. And that's just not how it works. Do you know what I mean? Also, people slam him for being cautious. We played France off the pitch. We've fired a better team. If we'd lost that game 5-0 for being cautious. We played France off the pitch. Yeah. We've fired a better team. And like,

if we'd lost that game 5-0 and played a bit more attacking but being terrible at the back, you look at that team, we were so... They had three chances

in that whole game. And they're the French, you know? They're a great side. That French team is as good as international team as you'll see.

It's fucking an incredible side. While we're talking about France by the way Griezmann what a baller oh mate

but the whole mate the whole of that side yeah you look at them yeah and you look at the players that they had they had left out

you know yeah it's incredible and like people going on about the USA game and whatever you know it's even people saying

about Senegal being an easy game Senegal the African champion people you need to put respect on people said about Senegal being an easy game Senegal the African champion you need to put respect on the fact that Senegal are a fucking strong side

and we demolished them so you know having been through the Hodgson years fucking McLaren having to watch some of the

dross that we've had to as an England fans I look at it now and just think yeah man and the future

you look how exciting it's going to be it's yeah it's a buzz bro who are you supporting now what going into it yeah to win the cup

I'd like to see Morocco do it me too I think a lot of people are saying that I like Morocco but there's also a part of me

that if it's not I'd like to see Messi I just think like he's he's the goat for me. He's an incredible, incredible player. And seeing him lift the World Cup would be pretty special.

Yeah, I'm thinking it's probably going to be Argentina. I don't know. I really can see Morocco beating the French. I just think Morocco are actually going to go into it and they're going to play really, really, really, really. They're going to get behind the ball, aren't they? And they've just got to say, they have a really good sub. Out in Spain, all the Spanish people that we were working with, they were calling Morocco really early on to potentially win it.

Yeah. Like, you know, even in Spanish. That's what I was talking about, wasn't it? He predicted them to go all the way, didn't he? Yeah. Yeah. In today's economy, saving money is like an extreme sport. Coupon clipping.

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look, sorry guys. If, if that digression was not to your taste, uh, let's go into some emails. Thank you. Once again, to the Swan for selecting the electronic mails for this week's episode,

probably only gonna have time to do two or maybe three. Let's see. Uh, this comes from the bald bandicoot. Hi there. Wolf Allen Swan. i love the pod it's a brilliant list and you two are amazing people for doing what you do my issue i have is that i shave my head and my partner the hangry hamster hates it i personally don't like the hair allen i have when it grows out so i prefer to have it shaved off completely the hangry hamster states i look

like a lost a lost mitchell brother and i don't see that as a bad thing what can i do to make her fall in love with the ball dot loving the pod and sharing your beautiful wisdom big love the bald bandicoot tom it's a harp on this because actually sort of again it's that the air of relevance just because i've had to shave off my beard for a lot yes for filming and it's fair to say that the cat isn't a particularly big fan of you look good

I don't feel I feel I don't feel like myself without a beard I can't wait for it to even now little stubble's back

and I'm feeling good about that number one I'm like as a bald man there's I daydream sometimes about having hair

I genuinely sit and think oh man what would it be like just when people talk about going to the barbers or having their hair cut and maybe I daydream sometimes about having hair. I generally sit and think, oh man, what would it be like? Just, just when people talk about going to the barbers or having their haircut and maybe like having a new, like,

I'm going to have this done. I might have this done. Like Hugo, Hugo, uh, was saying to me, texting me the other day, he was going for a fade,

right? Like, you know, Sipa was getting his haircut after the shoot. And I'm like, there's nothing I can do to, like, apart from what you've got in front of you and growing my beard back a bit, there's nothing I can do to, like apart from what you've got in front of you

and growing my beard back a bit, there's nothing I can do to change what I've got. I can't just like, you can, there's times when I've seen you change up your hair and you've gone fucking like, you know, you went with that, you know, the higher top, the nicer curl vibe. I loved it though.

Because you're changing shit up. So I'm going to say this, man. Maybe you say there's nothing you can do with your hair and you don't like it, but maybe give it a little trial, grow it out, see if there's any, treat yourself a little trip down to a really good barber's who might be able to give you some advice.

Life is long as a bald person. It's a long, it's their long cold days looking in the mirror just thinking about what used to be a great, a great population on top of your head. So maybe groaning back as a poor person, man. Every time I see someone just shoves their head off. I think, why?

By God, why? Romsky. I am going to say that I, I slightly disagree with Tom on this one. I mean, I don't disagree with him in terms of, I think you should go into a decent barber's and, you know, that's something I did, like trying to get a proper haircut or whatever. If your money allows, then it's a cool thing to do.

Even just once to get an idea of how you might have your hair, then you can go somewhere cheaper and sort of replicate that. But what I would say is this, if you're more confident with your bald head then that immediately makes you more attractive and i think your other half has to sort of get used to it i mean it's like if that's what you want and that's what makes you feel sexy attractive more confident that's more important than the aesthetics of a hairstyle do you know what i mean and so

you know i think people are more attractive when they're comfortable in their own skin we've all seen it there are certain people that you wouldn't say are on paper attractive people but because of the way they carry themselves the confidence they have the swagger they bring they have a level of attractiveness to them and that is because they're comfortable in how they look they've made choices about what they do and and they're and they're happy with that that is what you're saying happens when you shave your hair off completely because you don't like having this little hair island so what i would say is uh bald bandicoot the problem does not lie with you i would argue that the problem lies with the hangry hamster and the hangry hamster has to get used to the fact that the bald bandicoot

loves being bald and the bald bandicoot has the fact that the bald bandicoot loves being bald. And the bald bandicoot has more confidence when the bald bandicoot's bald. He has a swagger about him. He feels more comfortable about him. What do you want? The timid bandicoot with the hair island? No, thank you. I want the fucking proud, bald bandicoot.

Chest puffed out. Taking each day like he's going to smash it to fucking pieces because he's a goddamn legend because he's proud of that cranium glistening in the light as he moves on to another success in his life. So there you go.

Hold him tight, hold him tight, tiny dancer. Hold him, hangry hamster, hold him tight, hug him because you've got yourself

a keeper. You know, when we're talking about lack of confidence and stuff and things that you know what i'm really i need to i need to get invisalign on my bottom teeth for reals yeah man i'm like i need to know if there's anyone out there like what is because i've started i've got i went to a bit of a rabbit hole looking at places how did you pick who you

went invisalign with you just well i chose the dentist that deals with people with um oh yeah you know You know my story. Because that's the thing. I was looking. I want to get somewhere good in London that I can get a visalign done. And I'm just like... Well, I can thoroughly recommend the gentle dentist. Where are they based?

Covent Garden. Oh, they're in Covent Garden? Yeah. Well, maybe I'll go and see them because your teeth look banging now, boy. Yeah. Look at that. How long did it take you to get yours done? The Invisalign was about, well, it depends on like two months, something like that.

Is that all it was? Yeah, but it depends. If it's really bad, it's like six. I'm not saying yours didn't work. Can you email him for me and just say that I'm going to recommend my friend to you and then I'll go? I can email her. Oh, her, sorry. Yeah.

Women can be dentists too, mate. My dentist is a woman. It's 2022, yeah? I really thought it was a man. Yeah, women have been allowed to be dentists since 2020, Tom. Get with the times. Okay. Yeah, hook me up.

Hook me up. Just do a little thing. Yeah, hook you up. They'll probably charge you a bit extra. This is from the herbivorous herbivorous fox uh says hi rom tom swan cat and co absolutely love your work and spotify tells me i spent over 2 000 hours with you guys in my ears this year so thank you that can't be right 2 000 hours yeah that can't be right did you hear someone who listened to something like ridiculous? Tom, Tom, Tom. 2,000 hours.

That isn't saying anything. Yeah, I don't think that's right. Yeah, no, no, people have. No, 2,000 hours. How many hours in a year? I've got no idea. There's 24 hours in a day. Times 300.

So let's make that 20. You spent over 100 days. It can't be right. 100 days of listening to the podcast. So hold up. So hold up. over a hundred days. It can't be right. Hundred days of listening to the podcast. So hold up. So hold up 24 hours in a day, 264 days in a year equals 8,736 hours in a year. For a third of the year, he's been listening to us.

Can't be right. That can't be right. Um, okay. I'd love some of your, I'd love can't be right. Um, okay. I'd love some of your trade. I'd love some of your trademark solid advice, but it's my first bit of advice.

Check your stats properly. I've been married for 12 years and have two lovely kids. We have forever struggled financially. We don't live a lavish life.

We rent and tighten those purse strings whenever we can. My husband and I work hard. I retrained as a mature student to be an osteopath. No weird cults, promise.

But even so, I still often have to lean on my parents for financial help. No shame in that. Most recently, my parents had to rescue us for money right on top of Christmas because my car had parts stolen. For fuck's sake, now. There have been other things, too, as a graduation gift. My parents bought me a car and took us on a holiday. My parents are some of the genuinely most wonderful people you could meet.

They're not rich, but they're comfortable enough, and in their words, wouldn't offer they couldn't comfortably i can't help but think my parents needed less help from their parents when i was a child and honestly i don't know how i can ever repay them often they don't ask for the loans back even when we try and hand them the cash beyond saying i'll wipe your bum when you're old i don't know what i can possibly do to show i'm really a i'm really doing my best and trying not to take the piss and be sure grateful i am that i have them not just financially but emotionally they help with the kids so i can work etc and i'm probably in a very lucky minority.

My husband doesn't have a relationship with his parents that I do. And the whole thing makes me feel quite uncomfortable. I don't think of a granted. I just don't know how I can show. Of course, uh, I help them with their backs and breathing when they need it. Any thoughts on what's your perspective on helping out your adult kids financially when the time comes keep doing you to the max herbivorous. Herbivorous Fox. Yeah. I'll was gonna be foxy um listen uh my parents

uh were incredible like when i moved into making a change and and sort of you know moving into this the job that i do now they're were incredibly supportive. I think they were like, they were happy that I was doing something, number one, that I wanted to do. But I think they could see that, you know, I myself was fulfilling myself as a human being. And like you, my parents aren't rich. You know, they're comfortable, but again, they don't have love and show of days.

They're pretty, yeah, but they're comfortable but again they don't have love and show on days but they're amazing I think now as a father it's sort of like that's the most amazing thing to be able to give back is to sort of there's no money or anything just giving that support and being there for

your children is just everything and I think I feel very blessed and like you not to get too into it, but Catherine doesn't have that support from her parents. So it's a hard thing when you have that and you think, oh, how can I give something back to them? But I think you do give something back to them. I think you give something back to them

every time they see you accomplishing something and every time they see you growing as a person I think that's them getting back the thing that they're probably the most proud of in the world and that pride they see you retraining, getting a new job you finding your who you are, I think that's the

thing that every parent wants more than anything else is to get that back and it's like, you know, I, I see it sort of, well, I literally am seeing it now because Grace is just waking up.

So I'm going to have to go and get her in a minute. Um, but, um, yeah, it's, uh, yeah. Oh,

yeah. I'll, I'll hand on heart's sake, the last 10 days, not seeing Grace and knowing now that she's in that place where she started standing and walking, it's been the hardest thing. And those little tiny things that she's doing day in, day out,

you know, the thought of years to come when she's accomplishing bigger goals and she's been the hardest thing. And those little tiny things that she's doing day in, day out, the thought of years to come when she's accomplishing bigger goals and she's growing as a human being, which you sound you're doing every day, I think that's the thing that there's no money that can buy that to see your child becoming a well-rounded human being. I think you sound like you are. So shout out you and shout out your parents and your man and your kids. Have an amazing Christmas. Big love to you, Foxy you sound like you are. So shout out you and shout out your parents and your man and your kids.

Have an amazing Christmas. Big love to you, Foxy. Hey, Foxy. I'm going to tell you what I think. I agree very much with Tom. I've got three boys, as you know. You might not know. I don't know.

But what I would say is that one of the reasons I work, and I think the same for Tom, is that I can help those boys out with whatever they need. And so the idea that they would come to me and they'd need something and I'd be able to help them is a dream come true. And that's, I imagine the situation for your parents, your parents are in the wonderfully, and it is a privileged, but I don't mean that as an insult. It's a privileged situation of being able to help their daughter. And I think that's a wonderful place to be. And if my kids ever need anything for as long as I can, I'll help them as much as I can. And obviously, you know, with that comes a caveat that you want to

make sure they're making the right decisions. Not that I'm in control of their decisions, but you know, I wouldn't want to give them money for bullshit, but you know, if they need something or they deserve a holiday or whatever, and they can't afford it. Yeah, of course I would do that. If I'm in the position to do that, I would do that. I would happily do that. I'll never expect the money back. But equally, I understand why you feel like how you do. And obviously it's difficult for your other half because he's not related by blood.

So it makes it feel a little bit more complicated. But the truth of the matter is your parents are getting something from this. And that thing that they're getting is being able to help out the daughter they love so much in her life. And so I wouldn't take that for granted. You know, as long as you're not sort of taking the piss and seeing them as a well

that you can keep going to over and over again, I think it's absolutely fine. And I think it shows how sweet you are that you worry about it. But the truth of the matter is I promise you they're getting something from this as well. You, you work hard, you got a tough life, you retrain, which is a really hard thing to do. Give yourself some credit, man.

You're doing the best you can. And, uh, don't be so hard on yourself. As Tom said, I hope you have an amazing Christmas. And please don't feel bad about this anymore. Okay? Best of luck to you. Yo, yo, yo. Okay, Tommy D. It's about that time.

Can you do the honours? Take us out of this sweet, sweet ting. Yo. I want to shout out to the Hollybush. I don't know if you know too much about our friend. But this time of year, it becomes more relevant than ever. That spiky leaves rascal you see lurking about. But the truth of the matter is the reason that the holly leaf became so sharp

was protecting, protecting the leaves above. When deer and other animals would come along and try just to eat the holly bush and rip it to shreds it started becoming sharper and sharper down the bottom but its upper leaves are well-rounded and they're beautiful and they're lovely to stroke and such and that's maybe what life's about life sometimes is becoming a little sharp around the edges when you have to be just to protect yourself and protect the ones that you love around you but always remembering what you're doing it for you're doing it for the leaves that need protecting protecting from the exterior and those who come to cause harm

hold those loved ones close hold yourself close and sometimes although it's nice to have a sharper edge it's a great thing to put your arm around a softer edge and say hello friend it's great to meet you it's very hard to do that because what all i can see in my peripheral vision is grace is just literally waking up uh okay well look we better let tom get to grace uh guys thank you so much for watching all our presents now because we'll see you soon um listen we're gonna take you out with a little bit of ti featuring rihanna live your life a little uplifting tune for you. We will see you next week. Take care of yourselves and each other. Bye-bye. You're perfect. Safe to say I paid the way for you cats to get paid today. It'd still be wasting days away now had I never saved the day.

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