Wolf and Owl - S2 Ep 39: Dull Detectives & Fake Injuries
Episode Date: March 22, 2023We’re talking… dull detectives, ounces of Idris, constructive criticisms, working on walks, sleeping sounds, fire-hydrant attacks, attentions-seeking injuries and losing your rag in public. Plus, ...an email question about appropriating your partners recommendations and another suggestion for a ‘would you rather’ quandary. For questions or comments please email us at wolfowlpod@gmail.com - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List- https://wolfandowlpod.com/ A Shiny Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: HELLO@KEEPITLIGHTMEDIA.COM Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Another weekend, bro
Another weekend, how you doing?
I don't want to say another weekend because we're doing this on a weekday aren't we?
Yeah we are.
I sort of confused.
I sort of confused.
I feel quite jet lagged in a way.
What, because you're in Manchester?
No, just because I didn't sleep very well last night.
I didn't sleep very well because I watched the Luther movie last night.
Okay. Have you seen it? No. I didn't sleep very well because I watched the Luther movie last night.
Okay.
Have you seen it?
No.
I'm sort of quite fascinated by it. I'm going to watch it at the weekend.
How is it?
Well, it's everything you'd expect from a...
Well, what I would say is, this is my take on Luther.
It started off being quite a gritty, rooted in reality...
Yeah, that's how I like to hear it.
Hyper reality.
When it started off, yeah.
But sort of rooted in reality kind of guy looking for
for serial killers and he's a little bit he's a little bit off kilter played with the rules hard
and fast with the rules a little bit fast and loose i mean i don't mean hard and fast and um
you know he's a bit of a maverick as is the sort of staple for any kind of i'd like to see and i don't know if it would
work in the reason they've never done it i would like to see a piece of thing where someone plays
by all of the rules and it's actually sort of like quite a meek sort of family man who's just
sort of like well it's funny you say that tom because i was watching this and i was thinking
i wonder what kind of tv detective i'd be i know we've we've talked about but i did sort of think
like sort of kind of a nervous vegan no no you've got a've talked about it, but I did sort of think like,
sort of kind of a nervous vegan.
No, no, no.
You've got a bit of an edge to you.
You've got party wrong in you.
That's the thing.
Oh, so my detective would be a guy
that like turns up to the crime scene.
Oh, fuck it.
No, no, no.
Your guy would be,
I think you'd be very good in your work
and you'd work hard,
but your eyes would break up
when you'd sort of be like,
you know the guys who walk around in the sort of medical suits with the blue shoes yeah like you like you'd hear them
going oh you know it's like you know luke's birthday this week so we're all going to go out
and you'd sort of it's all we go so we think he got in here at like seven o'clock and he was shot
twice and sorry sorry did someone say it's luke's birthday this weekend and I've not been invited yet but
I could bring a couple of bottles of Bacardi
and really lubricate the situation.
If Luke wants Elvino
till Flo, I can
make that happen. Romesh,
in this scene, your character
is sort of doing paperwork again
and making sure it's all sort of filed properly.
It kind of feels like we're doing a lot of that
and I've watched quite a few of these
and I just imagine when we're going to do the scene
where I'm sort of doing a moody walk
towards where I think the killer might be.
Is it like that?
In this version, basically,
you send someone else to do that
because some of the stuff hasn't been put away properly
but you are phoning
them and sort of talking them through it
but you are very much based at the office
I really feel like
you want me to mobile phone
or am I using the landline
I don't
can I just say I don't think my character
would use whatsapp
it feels a little bit edgy for him.
But yeah, anyway, so the, the, so, but as each series went on,
it got more and more kind of, what's the best way to describe it?
Sort of fantastical. It kind of got, it's got,
and this film is like the natural progression of that, I'd say.
Is it good?
Yeah, I thought it was good. I thought it was good. I read a lot. I'm gonna be honest,
full disclosure. I read a lot of terrible reviews of it.
It's weird because I like we were the interest fans, right? But I think we could you know,
mattress every quarter of interest is body and mind and soul every quarter. Yeah, like
you're every hour when people talk about every thing. It's normally a thing. There's multiple and mind and soul. Every quarter? Yeah. Like, yeah.
Every ounce. When people talk about
every thing,
it's normally a thing
that there's multiple things of.
There's four quarters.
No.
With every,
honestly,
I love every half of that,
man.
Every eighth of it.
I fucking love
every eighth of you,
mate.
We love every ounce of interestris right we adore Idris
Idris is a bit of an inspiration
and someone we look up to
but I'm not sure
like I've watched a fair bit
of Luther
I really enjoyed it when it started
but I have that problem now where I'm a little bit like
is it as good as it could have been?
I loved it at first,
but it was a bit raw.
It feels a bit like now,
like it's a bit more James Bond-y in this.
It is a bit, yeah.
He's a bit like,
I would say,
he's a bit like Batman.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
And Mark,
I watched Mark Kermode and Simon Mayo
did like,
they reviewed it and they absolutely went in two-footed on it.
Just said it was dreadful.
See, I don't have anything to add.
Nothing to redeem it.
What do you mean?
I truly believe that anyone who's making...
And look, you've written stuff, I've written stuff.
Some of the stuff we've done has been well-received.
Some of it hasn't. That's life.
But I do think going in really hard and stuff
and being overly critical.
I get that things aren't going to be, and we both do,
but I just think being really, really harshly criticising stuff is...
It's a difficult one, isn't it?
Because say for something like Luther,
most films, most TV shows, most things that you're watching,
those people are trying really hard.
Yeah. Do you know what I mean? shows most things that you're watching those people are trying really hard yeah do you mean like they want that they most of the time even the shittest stuff you've seen a lot of work has
gone into that so so it is a bit out of order to go to really fucking lay into something i mean i
think if something is a is a cynical cash sort of a cynical cash grab do you mean where they've gone
oh we can make some money just sort of punting this out. Then I guess you can go in on that
and stuff like that. But most of the time when you're watching something as bad as it
might be, they've really tried hard. Having said that, there is something about watching
something. I'm not saying this is the case for Luther because I enjoyed Luther, but I
think I'm slightly different to you. I've sort of accepted the trajectory that Luther's got. Do you know what I mean?
I've like I've sort of accepted that's what he's become now. Do you know what I mean?
So Luther when we were first doing Murder and Successville
Yeah, I was so obsessed with Luther and Idris Elba. That's when you hear Sleet's voice and see how Sleet is
That was like my version of like how would you make
like
Luther Within this mad world if world if he was just like
not cool yeah yeah so if he was trying to be cool so sleep yeah he's just like just embarrassing yeah
and and was a bit of a mug and a bit of a loser which is essentially yeah yeah which is me right
so you're you're you're the guy with the filing papers and I'm the guy trying to get on with the fucking cool cop but I'm an absolute fucking bellow
but that
the voice
and everything was
based on Luther
but he wasn't quite as cool as Luther
so it was like a massive
thing for me
and like
I think it just should
I think genuinely should have been already known
as the next Bond I I think it just should, I think genuinely should have been already known as the next Bond.
We talked about this.
I just think it's difficult when you have something
and it evolves so much that is it still the thing that it used to be?
Yeah.
I mean, I would say this film's pretty mad.
It's mad.
But I sat and enjoyed it.
Yeah.
If you're wanting it to,
I imagine if you watch the first episode of the first series of Luthor
and then watched this movie,
you'd go,
what the fucking hell's going on?
Do you know what I mean?
Because it's like,
it is so different.
But it's just,
that is what it's become.
Basically, it's become
like one of the fucking Avengers now.
I mean, that's basically it.
I mean, also,
I do respect that in a sense.
I respect the fact
that one minute he's like, they're sitting him in a world
of grimy estates and sort of like...
He's still in the grimy estates
and there's a bit where he's in Piccadilly Circus
and they shoot Piccadilly Circus.
It's fucking like the grimy, shittiest part
of London you could ever imagine.
Do you know what I mean?
It's like Soho is so fucking rough
in Luther Madness. It's like Soho is so fucking rough in Luther, man.
It's mad.
Soho's like the sweetest part of London.
Yeah, Soho is like, that should be Luther dodging media wankers.
Do you know what I mean?
Just sort of trying to, just go and grab a coffee
and trying to avoid people working on scripts on MacBook.
Do you mind watching my laptop?
I'm just going to pop to the toilet.
Oh, all right.
No problem, mate.
You know there's a kid on the list.
But, you know, when you see him...
When you see him wander through the scene in the tweed coat...
Oh, man.
I mean, you know, like, his build is just...
I mean, look, he's a great actor,
but just the fucking...
His presence is just...
He's like an old school movie star, isn't he?
Yeah.
Do you reckon he must have, do you reckon he worked on that walk?
Like what the Luther Walk is going to be?
I think sometimes if, you know, like when people talk about when you're young,
the things that you'd wish you'd done.
Yeah.
I wish I'd worked on my walk a little bit more.
My walk is just gone.
Mate, I've got to be honest with you.
My walk is something I hate it got to be honest with you my walk is something i i hate it
yeah i really hate it and when i was in my when i was in my teens and probably early 20s i used to
affect a walk do you remember like there was the bowl yeah you put on a little you put on a little
bop or whatever yeah and then i don't know if like i now I'm suffering from sort of post-bop traumatic syndrome, but my walk is awful.
Yeah. I tried to lean Gallagher for a while. I tried to turn my feet out a little bit when I walked.
Yeah. And that just doesn't go.
No, but the problem is, Tom, is what happens is what happened to me, which is you turn your feet out.
That works if you're doing the same thing with the rest of your body.
Yeah. If you then sort of evolve it into just walking normally with your feet out,
you look like you've got a fucking issue.
Yeah, but you know the thing is, right, because for me and you,
like for most people, you never actually see your own walk.
You might catch it now and again if you're bowling through sort of like,
you know, Westfield or a shopping centre and you look in a shop window
and you see, but for the most part, you don't actually see your own walk.
Like we, I see my walk on, you know, when we're on shows, in a shop window you see but for the most part you don't actually see your own walk like we
i see my walk on you know when we're on shows i see it like you know when you walk out on stage and stuff mine is so i look at now and go oh that's that's one of the reasons that you're an
absolute easy target for people because i know i have to so passive yeah i i hate it like when i
when i had to watch i had to watch the edit for The Cynic, the Netflix special, and I
could barely get past the first minute because I'm walking on stage. Then I had to pause
it and deal with a fucking shame spiral.
Can we do a reshoot of the walk?
Guys, is it possible to get the lights and everything back into the hall if I just need
to do that walk on again?
My walk looks like, you know like in a musical you'll see like an oliver twitch everyone's dancing around and like you'll see like
a woman's maybe she's like like running a flower store or a fruit and veg store and she'll do like
this big sort of like she'll come i look like a guy who's sort of humbly bringing her over some
bread i haven't got like any sort of rhythm to my walk it's just like a clumsy i think what like if me and you were animals in a sort of
jungle or sort of dangerous situation you know what those animals that get fucking smashed really
like uh you see lions killing them all the time they've got a gangly sort of like yeah because
they also look incredible when they run when they walk they look like i've got no idea what they're
doing like they're like that's what me and you would be like. We'd be easy prey.
We're like teenage dogs.
The limbs are sort of
not quite fully in control of them.
These legs are bigger than I anticipated.
That's why I think I couldn't ever do that
like a detective.
The lines would be alright.
It would just be like,
Romesh, we need to do that slow-mo walk again.
Why?
Because you look insane,
to be honest with you.
Is there any way, Rom,
could we do another take of this?
But could you just walk
like a normal human would walk, please?
I don't even need you to walk
like a grizzled detective anymore.
I just need you to walk
like just a regular human, please.
Just less like a daddy long legs
that's stubbed its toe.
like just a regular human please. Just less like a daddy long legs that's stubbed his toe.
But the Luther was so grisly that I couldn't, you know, you take that to bed with you don't you? Yeah that's the worst.
That's the worst. Bit of a man.
That's the worst.
The other thing I've started doing recently, speaking of bed, is I've started putting sounds
on in the night, through the night.
Have I talked about this?
No.
No.
So I've been doing it for about a week now.
I discussed it with Lisa.
She's accepted it as a thing.
And now she's having some input into what we play so the
first night i had that just an r b playlist the yeah sort of a bit of sort of slow jams the second
night i went for a bit of sort of mellow hip-hop that didn't work because midway through the night
i was woken up by mop screaming out the phone yeah and then last night I went for sea sounds oh wow
that's a real changer
mate
my
eight hours
of the ocean
mate
that's
because Grace
has white noise
so
that's what she has
when she's asleep
and then we have
the monitor
so our monitor
plays white noise
so we have
the sea sounds
we've had that
yeah
you can get like there's a website isn't there where you can get white noise and then there's brown noise. We have the C sounds. We've had that for like 50 years. You can get, like, there's a website, isn't there, where you can get white noise and then
there's brown noise as well, isn't there? It's not ethnic, but like, there's different
types of sort of background noise. And doesn't Wayne Rooney have to have the vacuum cleaner
on while he's asleep or something?
Why doesn't he just...
Like, it's a thing, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I find it quite, you know, quite cathartic, if that's a word.
It is a word, yeah, yeah.
I struggle with that with these. um it is a word yeah yeah i've struggled with that and it's actually
it's actually the right word um which uh i uh i quite enjoy like that sort of thing i had an awful
night's sleep last night oh go on tell me well no because i'm i was fine the first night in a hotel
just absolutely savage um i i always um and for some reason i don't empirical evidence doesn't seem to talk me out of this,
but I always look forward to going to a hotel
because I think I'm going to get a good night's sleep,
but I never do.
I don't know why it is I've managed to convince myself
every single time that this next night in a hotel
is going to be different to every other night
I've ever had in a hotel.
I'd much sooner now, when I think about it,
is have to drive back for two hours or three hours
to get into my own bed.
When I was doing the circuit, like, properly,
and I was driving myself, I didn't have a tool manager,
my rule was if I get home after two, I'll stay the night wherever I am.
Yeah.
Because it's like, if you're driving yourself, it's dangerous. Like, I remember like some,
like a couple of nights I'd be like,
it'd be like three o'clock in the morning.
I'm like still an hour away from home and I'd be fucking like falling asleep at the wheel.
And then I pulled up a couple of nights,
I'd pull up in a service station and then just try and like,
I think I'm going to get an hour in the car park.
But service station car parks are a lot busier through the night
than you might think. I mean, it's
mad. And then I thought, what I don't
want is some lads to come knock on the window
while I'm passed out in my
civic. Isn't it funny how
petrified we are of lads?
They are
the, I think they're the,
you know like how... And I'm not talking about
aggressive, like, fucking bullies.
I'm just talking about...
There's a bloke over there sleeping in his car.
Yeah, not even physical violence.
I'm talking about somebody going,
having a bit of a nap, that's enough to send me...
I'm done then.
I mean, oh, God, that's so embarrassing.
There's nothing you can say.
Well, actually, I've had quite a late night.
I've been doing stand-up comedy.
Tell us a joke.
Tell us a joke. Well, actually, I've had quite a late night. I've been doing stand-up comedy. Tell us a joke. Tell us a joke.
Well, it's not really...
I don't really do jokes.
Oh, mate, you've already lost the crowd, mate.
Lost the crowd.
Well, I'm not actually doing a gig here.
Eat this, mate.
Eat this.
And then someone just throws a burger in your window.
Right, OK.
Well, that's...
Yeah, well, I'm just trying to do a night's work, actually, guys.
So it's not actually that cool i i once was um when i was doing edinburgh festival i was walking back
to my flat one night and this is so embarrassing man somebody jumped out like a group of lads were
on a night out somebody jumped out from behind the thing and sprayed me with a fire extinguisher. Oh, Jesus.
I thought you said I'm going to jump out and scared you.
Which has happened to me.
Yeah.
So they,
like,
it was like a water extinguisher.
It wasn't foam.
Yeah.
So they're like,
it's just like smelly kind of canister water all over me,
like top to bottom.
Right.
So this is the embarrassing bit so unluckily
for them as they did it to me a police car pulled and i was driving by right so they pulled up
jumped out the car and i was like oh man like when you tell these stories sometimes my body starts winking like I'm about to expect a punch. I was so angry but also knew that I was completely impotent because the police were there and
all say these lads would have kicked the fuck out of me. I actually said, I've just come
to Edinburgh to just do some comedy.
Oh no. I thought what you were going you were gonna say you turn around to the policeman
other real mates we've had a bit of a laugh. I wish I said that you told them. What happened?
What happened? What was the what's the day just the truth is the police aren't going
to arrest those guys for that. They just sort what I mean? Yeah, they're going to arrest them, but... Yeah, they just sort of...
They just went,
now, now, lads, come on.
Oh, no.
Let him be on his way.
He's so good now.
He's absolutely drenched.
Good luck drying off your sad little twat.
To be honest with you, mate,
if I'd have seen him go past,
I would have doused the **** as well.
Did you have your rucksack on?
Yeah, I did.
And also, this is the tragic thing i went in
and my mobile phone was totally fine but i wanted it to be broken so that i could feel some sort of
indignant rage like because i text a mate and i go oh you're never going to fucking believe what's
happened to me and you want them to have a reaction like you've been yeah beaten shitless is that i just
got i actually and so you start your opening text is a much more dramatic one so i just got jumped
by a group of lads yeah let's get a reply what the fuck what the fuck happened oh they just jumped
out at me from behind this like from behind like this wall shit man and then what the fuck what
have you still have you got like your stuff you? Did they take anything? No.
So what did they,
fuck, what did they do?
What did they want?
They sprayed me with some water from a half-empty fire extinguisher.
Why are you texting me?
You know the thing as well,
was it busy?
Was this road busy?
Yeah, it was quite busy.
Yeah, yeah.
Then they've seen you
walking up with your rucksack.
They thought you were,
yeah, and they've gone, they've gone, this up with your rucksack. They thought you were... Yeah, and they've gone...
They've gone, wait...
This guy looks like a good mark.
Here he comes.
Here he comes.
This fella.
This guy.
Good.
So embarrassing.
Yeah, he's great.
Look at the way this bloke's walking.
What's going on with his feet?
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something happens like that and then you have to find the injury to make it worse
i had a thing not so long ago i was across the road in London and I sort of went down the
curve and the curve was like higher curve than I anticipated it was and I completely lost my footing
and like fell into the road like sort of like rolled into the road and and it wasn't like I
wasn't hurt but it was packed it was like a really busy street and quite a few people sort of like
came over there like you're okay and like one guy genuinely was like fucking hell was like a really busy street and quite a few people sort of like came over and they're like, are you okay? And like one guy genuinely was like, I was a big fall for you
mate from your height. And I was like, and then I was sort of lying there and sort of people helped
me up. Um, and I was like, this is so embarrassing. I only had to fucking faint injury. And I was like,
my ankle's completely gone from underneath me. And the guy was like, well, I call an ambulance,
his ankles fucked. And then I was like, no, I like well i call an ambulance his ankles fucked and then i
was like no i can't obviously call an ambulance for it and i was like no no no that's fine it's
fine it's fine let me just get to my office and he was like no no you need an ambulance but you
could have broken your ankle and then people are trying to fucking pull up my jeans and like look
at my ankle and i'm like no no that's cool lucky enough i had a pair of fucking high tops on
and i'm sort of lying there in like
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one of the people
by the way
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who sort of
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it took like six people
to help me up
because I was sort of like,
I could have got up myself,
but I'm like,
that'll destroy the look
of this piece.
Yeah.
And then I was like,
look,
my office is just around the corner.
And then I limped off.
Yeah,
you have to.
Yeah,
but like,
the limp was so savage.
It looked like,
if a director,
like,
if it was like,
I was the same private rider like you've just
been shot three times in your leg like now you you're trying to get down the beach
that's how i rolled it was like and i was doing this oh oh cheers guys thank you
no i'll be all right i think i'll be all right oh and i just kept that walk going for
probably at least 15 minutes so i knew that none of them were following me.
I can tell you something sadder than that although I was a child but this is bad.
So when I was a kid I reckon I must have been about nine I got knocked over by a car.
Wow, I had another story about that but then i
just heard this one i'm like i don't know i mean i love when we do this but it's yeah go so my mom
sent me to get something from the shop and the worst thing was i pulled a sickie so i said i
didn't want to get my mom let me take time off school whenever i sort of remotely looked like
i was sort of poor so my mom sent me across the road to get
something i got knocked over by a car so my mom saw this happen my mom and brother saw this happen
right the car hit me i would say incredibly slowly right now this is not something i've ever admitted
okay but the truth is is i could have got up and walked away from that accident no problem at all
but i fell to the ground i stayed there because I was an attention seeking child. They called
an ambulance. I went, I went to hospital, right? They said, nothing's broken. And then
for the next four days, I limped. I had nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with me. Right. But
I just, I just wanted to, for people to go, oh my God, you got knocked over by a car. That's horrendous. Until, this is so embarrassing. My mum and her friends had to stage an intervention where they basically suggested that, that I was making, I was feigning this injury. Because, basically, because it didn't hurt,
I didn't know,
and I wasn't,
I'm not an actor,
I'm still not an actor now,
but I didn't,
I didn't know what it was like
to have an injury in your leg.
So I just kept that leg
completely straight
and just would sort of...
Mate,
sometimes when,
when you tell stories,
right,
there's a part of me
that thinks,
how strange that these two
fucking pathetic losers came like through the like so i it's like i had a time at school where
we were playing like football and i got tackled and i hit the ground and i think i'd seen it on
neighbors or some shit i basically lay there and the teacher was like,
get up, come on, get up, mate, get back into it.
And I was like, I can't move.
I can't move.
My head can't move.
Right.
And they thought I'd broken my back.
Similar to you, right?
I get an ambulance called and they're like,
obviously when it's a back injury, they can't move you, right?
What was actually wrong with you?
Nothing.
I literally just
was really embarrassed
about getting tackled
and I don't know
it was attention seeking
it was fucking pathetic
oh god
like it's so strange
when you tell stories
because this is like
so I then basically
get an ambulance
like my dad
who you know
is like my world
I love my dad
he gets a phone call
at work
can you imagine
getting a phone call at work going hello you imagine getting a phone call at work,
going,
hello,
this is Mrs Craven from Tom's school,
Tom's been rushed to the hospital,
we think he's broken his back,
like,
my dad,
thinks,
fuck,
like,
he drives there,
and then I'm lying in this thing,
and I've got a neck brace on,
and they do some scans and stuff,
and,
there's nothing,
obviously,
because, you know, and there's nothing obviously because you know
and then they start doing you know the tests on your legs and all my legs are fucking fine
did you did you pretend that you were feeling yeah but yeah like you i'm not fucking i'm fucking i
think i was like 12 or whatever so i'm lying there they're doing these fucking tests and i'm literally
like as soon as i touch my feet i'm'm really ticklish. So my fucking feet start moving.
And the doctor's like, are you feeling any bad sensations?
And my dad is staring at me.
I remember it so clearly, staring because he knows I'm lying now.
He knows that he's had to turn to someone and go, my son's broken his back.
I've got to go.
So it's driven all the way there.
Then in his head, he's got to go back to work and go,
is your son all right?
Is his back okay?
Yeah, you know, he's just lying.
It's a fucking awful thing.
Imagine getting a call saying your son's broken his back.
You leave the office, and it's so pathetic.
It was a fucking garage, but yeah.
Okay, you leave the garage,
and then it's such a pathetic injury that you're back the same day.
It's not even an injury. It's fucking, the only thing that's been hurt is my pride right so as the doctor's going
for these tests and the doctor's a really sweet man really lovely right and my dad's going right
come on mate just get up we know what's going on here the doctor's like look even though you know
with the x-rays and the tests and um you know, it might look like there's nothing wrong.
Sometimes these things, there can be an underlying thing that we haven't noticed.
And my dad is just literally staring at me like, when do you get home, mate?
What are you going to do in this place?
Oh, yeah. You want a broken back?
Yeah, you're right.
Get the fuck out of my boat.
It was like, literally got back. He picked me up in the car.
I was like, oh, I think I should just go home now.
He's like, you're going back to school
took me back
to school
and it was like
so fucking
like literally
at first it was like
people going
oh my god
are you alright
they saw the ambulance
take you
my sister was
at the same school
and she'd been
inconsolable
she'd seen me
taken off the pitch
by a stretcher
put in an ambulance
and she couldn't
she was just sobbing
it was yeah
insane yeah i mean
the worst thing was is that i'd feigned the injury so badly when i did it bearing in mind genuinely
what happened was i was touched by a car essentially like something that happened to me
regularly when i was a trolley wally at uh sainsbury's right okay that happened to me all
the time because i'd have my headphones on and be bopping around with a hood on i get hit by cars all the time and i just carry on right and um so that's what happened to me
i feigned injury so much demanded so much so that they called an ambulance i got taken away
the guy that hit me was traumatized he came to visit my house to apologize to me for what
happened when i'd run out in front of the car without looking and also was completely unscathed and this poor bastard i mean i i i he came to my
house and i had my leg out straight which didn't need to be sort of in front of me as i sat in
front of the tv and he's just like i just i just i just want to he brought a box of chocolates for me.
I mean, to be honest with you, he sort of sat there going,
I just want to say I'm really sorry for...
And really what he should say is, listen, you careless little shit.
I know you're faking.
I know what speed I was going when I hit you, right?
I was coming to a stop when
i hit you do you want to just get up because i feel like i'm in the center of some sort of scammy
did you eat the chocolates in front of him yeah of course i did i didn't even i ate the
chocolate in front of him and i carried on watching tv i barely paid him any attention
and he was sort of apologising.
Oh, God, it makes you feel sick.
Do you know sometimes you like to think of yourself as a good person, right?
You like to think of yourself like that.
Sometimes when I think about things like that,
I think that is pure Romesh, right?
That is Romesh at his very core.
So what that must mean is that me at my core, I'm a prick.
Yeah, but, mate, you were a kid.
When that happened to my ankle the other day, right,
there's an old lady, I remember, like,
there's a few people who are sort of, yeah,
there's an old lady helping me up to my feet, right,
helping me up to my, she's, like, 75,
and then she's just going, and then she's just holding my arm
and sort of stroking it, and as everyone's talking,
she's going, are you going to be all right, love?
Are you going to be okay?
And I'm looking at her in the eye and she's so concerned.
And I know this, I've wronged my ankle.
Me and you are the Pripser called Wolf.
Like, genuinely now, I look at you and think,
how, like, what is wrong with both of us?
That me and you both have that that and also it also makes our journey into comedy
that much more disgusting right because because basically i did a i did a work in progress the
other night and lisa got this there's a woman that lisa knows that came to the gig and she sent her
a text saying it was such a sweet text right just going oh um it's really nice that
you know i hope that rummish realizes that what he does is a really nice thing and making people
laugh and blah blah blah and then you go yeah if that was my motivation but as it turns out i'm
just a fucking little narcissistic prick who wants everyone to look at me because i will happily make a show out of being
hit by a car do you mean i don't care what the entertainment value is i just want you to look at
me just please will you look at me yeah but you you want people to look at you i want people to
like me that's my worst that's my that's the thing that like yeah that's the thing i worry most about like you know like so theo our eldest
yeah his desire to have you like him is zero yes it's zero right he just he doesn't care if you
like him or not i wish i had a fucking a molecule i wish i had a quarter of that no i wish i had a
molecule of that man do you really like it's just incredible mate when you
see someone like that who just is like i'm fine it's cool i don't need that validation like like
i've got friends who are like it i look and think fucking hell it must be amazing
like i feel the need to constantly like and not not it's just such a strange thing to sort of not want someone to
like even
in the smallest margin
of bumping into someone
and having any interaction
with them
I want to leave them
with
like
oh actually
he's a nice guy
and that's been my whole life
it's not since we've done this
but actually
I over egg it now
so much
that I can see them
going past
oh it's just someone
who's just
I bumped into
oh he seems a nice enough guy oh fucking shut up mate literally I can see them going past. Oh, it's just someone who's just bumped into.
We seem to nice enough guy.
Oh, fucking shut up, mate.
Literally. I can see the level.
Yeah.
Okay, man.
I get it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
I sort of feel like, I sort of feel like I've moved beyond.
Well, I think I've moved beyond it.
I'd like to think I've moved beyond it.
Cause like, I'm not as bothered now if people like me. I'm more bothered now.
But then I think to myself,
maybe that's because my itch
has been scratched by doing comedy.
Do you know what I mean?
That like I don't,
it's not that I'm not bothered.
It's not that I don't want to be a nice guy.
I do want to be a nice guy
and I will help people if I can
and blah, blah, blah.
And I'll try and be a nice bloke.
You don't always manage it.
But these are two different things.
Like being a nice guy
and being which you are
and you're a lovely man is a different thing from wanting to be wanting people yeah but but you have the
smallest interaction with yeah but the switch is when you're being a nice person and you want you
really want them to think you're a nice person and you hope that they tell other people that
you're a nice person there's a difference between that and then just being a nice person and being
okay with if you've not made any impact on do you know what i mean like yeah oh yeah that is a that is a switch
right my my thing isn't even being like no it's just thinking i i'm terrified of someone walking
away going what fucking arsehole all right yeah all right yeah and also i think in life everyone
should like the the group of people i can't stand is like look you get people
like Theo right
and you know
James is it
where they don't
they're not bothered
whether people like them or not
they're just walking
through their life
but they're not nasty people
they just go through
no he's really
he's not like
compassionate nice people
and they're decent people
but they don't have that
thirsty fucking prick
no
no thirst at all
that's one group of people
then you've got me and you
who sit at this fucking place where it's like I'll like us because we group of people then you've got me and you who sit at this fucking place
where it's like
I don't like us
because we're pathetic
and then you've fucking got
people who are like
I don't care if people
fucking like me
and then they actively
go out
and it's like
like me or hate me
I'm just fucking me
and they're the fucking best
Millwall
Millwall
yeah
Millwall yeah
that just reminds me by the way
speaking of not coming across as a nice guy, I had
a bit of an incident at the weekend.
I don't think I've talked.
In fact, I saw you the day after it happened and didn't tell you because I don't want to
tell you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're in a quite important meeting.
Yeah, yeah, probably wouldn't have been appropriate.
So anyway, I went to Fulham away with our second kid at the weekend on sunday right and as you know going to an away game the fans are different
right it's a bit more of a hardcore contingent i would say yeah anyway this fulham game was it was
two o'clock in the afternoon on a sunday but people were on it like properly on it right so
i went in with alex i don't really know craven cottage that well So we're sort of wandering around trying to find where we've got to go.
And it's rammed, right?
Like absolutely rammed where we are.
I would say if you've not been to football,
you would find that experience uncomfortable.
Do you know what I mean?
Like really like people everywhere, right?
And so Alex wanted a hot chocolate or whatever.
I go get him a hot chocolate, get myself a beer.
I'm stood.
I know a couple of other guys at the game, so I'm having a chat with them.
They're being very nice to Alex.
This guy comes out first off, this guy comes over and he goes,
Can I loads of people start asking for photos, right?
Loads of people, right?
Because we're in like a really enclosed area.
And soon as one person sees the last, people start doing it.
Guy asked one guy askedlex to take the photo
which i said i actually said to him that is an incredible decision but okay so um another guy
comes up to me he goes romesh down it down it he goes i've got a pint down it down it and i just
go to him oh i'm with my son it's not really a down it day today right so alex is like stood
there with hot chocolate and a bag of crisps right i'm just like
and then and then we leave it too late like chatting to these guys to get to our seat in
a comfortable way so basically kickoffs at two i'm making my way to my seat at three minutes two
which was insane with a kid like stupid thing to do? So it's like a proper bottleneck going up the stairs.
So I've got my hands sort of on Alex because it's like he's obviously,
I don't need to explain it, but it's difficult.
He's like, you can't see anything.
I'm trying to help him out, right?
As I'm doing that, people are leaning in going, can I get a photo?
Can I get a photo?
Right, fine, fine.
But I'm taking the photo, taking the photos while I'm sort of,
to be honest with you, getting slightly anxious about my son being all right.
Do you know what I mean?
In the crush or whatever.
Yeah.
So, you know, obviously you worry about these things.
This bloke goes, can I get a photo just as it's getting really hairy, right?
Yeah.
And so I lean in for the photo, but I don't really, I just sort of do it, try and do it
as quickly as I can and move on.
And he's right next to me. And I'm really quite stressed.
Not stressed.
Stressed is an exaggeration,
but you're on high alert, right?
Yeah, of course, of course, of course.
So his mate then goes to him.
Oh, he didn't look very happy, did he?
Like, they're right next to me.
He goes, he didn't look very happy, did he?
And then the guy that I took the photo with goes,
no, he didn't, did he?
Fuck him, right?
And then I turned around to him and I went,
what have you been a c*** for? And he goes, what? And I turned around to him and I went, we've been a couple.
And he goes, what? And I go, I just, I did the photo. I said, we're trying to get to the thing.
I said, I did the photo and now you'll, you'll me off to your mate. And he goes, we've been like
that. I said, I'm not being like anything. I said, I agreed at this point I'd lost my temper.
So I go to him, I agreed to do the photo with you. I said, we're trying to make a way to our
seats. And then I said
and then you still
talk to me
talk about me like that
in my earshot
I said what the fuck
are you doing
and then he turns to me
now
I'm in front of Alex
and like
it looks like
I'm about to have
a fucking confrontation
and then I just
brushed it off
I just went
you're fucking out of order
mate
I walk to the seat
and then I think to myself
I don't know what this geezer's like.
Do you know what I mean?
Like this guy might be going now,
mate,
we've got to fuck him up.
Like the way he's just spoke to me,
we've got to fuck him up
before we leave.
Right.
And then the other part of me is thinking,
even if that doesn't happen,
that guy,
a hundred percent now thinks I'm a prick.
Like a hundred percent now thinks I'm a prick.
But he's the prick, right?
But he doesn't know that. Do you know's the prick right but he doesn't know that
do you mean like he doesn't know that do you mean he might his mate hopefully might
i mean he said his mate has a helmet as well but his mate might go well actually it was a bit much
because he's got the thing with you having a kid is like i just think that that's the bit i can't
get my head around is that when you see someone with a child you then everything changes right you've
got to be yeah consider it it's insane the truth is and i know that you're saying that guy
was a helmet but the truth is what i should have done is when he goes him i should have just
gone that guy's a prick i don't need to say anything and the truth is is that my ego got the
better of me and i lost my temper and also say in your defense you're in a
high anxiety level of like yeah it's i've been there you know it's tense you know yeah
yeah and it's even without a child and you're it's packed and you know you're in that kind of
environment and lots of people like we went to this is fucking I mean this is edgy
when you're talking about
Millwall
and fucking big football
me and Catherine
had our first date night
at George Ezra
um
oh yeah I saw
I saw that on the site
people can have it then
mate
um but um
yeah we
I had that thing
because it was packed
and like you're sort of
you're waiting for people
to sort of
and like yeah
there's obviously
a few pictures here and there
and a few people
but the level of anxiety
you feel anyway
that's something
to do with
what we do
for a job
I've just always
felt like in big
crowds
it's just
you know
I think
so in your
defence
when you then
add to the fact
you've got
how old's Alex
what he's 10?
11
11
you know what I mean
you've got 11
in your body
and you've then
got
you're not just
taking your anxiety
and your fears,
you're taking his as well.
Yeah.
You're trying to make it a calming situation for him.
So I don't think you can beat yourself up about that.
No.
The problem I've got is,
also,
is that I don't look happy most of the time.
And so,
the number of times I get told to cheer up,
or,
Yeah.
smile for a photo, or whatever, it's like, it's insane. People think I'm being moody, but I'm not number of times I get told to cheer up or yeah smile for a photo or whatever it's like
it's insane people think I'm being moody when I'm not like I got so much shit on Jonathan Ross when
I was on with Lewis Capaldi and Lewis Capaldi has been hilarious and amazing and I love Lewis
Capaldi but I've got a default kind of this is so scale wise yeah You sit there and I sit here. I look happy to be anywhere.
I look like Flo, both of our agents, right?
Is it Jonathan Ross?
When the pictures came through and she said,
oh yeah, me on the couch and Jonathan Ross,
I genuinely look like someone's gone,
any big Niall Horan fans in?
And I've gone, yeah, me, me!
And they've gone, come on, come and get a picture
with Niall. And that's how I look.
I look like that.
I think that's much better.
I don't know, man. I look so fucking...
Like, talking about being at football,
I think I've told you this, because
I said, you know, unlike you, I come into a meeting
full of stories, and you're like,
we actually have work to do here.
Thanks for adding an hour to that meeting last week i was in bethnal green in a calf great calf and having my
breakfast and one of west ham's top poogans turned up and he basically sees me sitting there it's
quite busy in the calf he sees me there and he's like is your wife i'll sit on your table and i'm
like i can't say no but i'm talking to the cut of friends anyway so he sits down and starts telling me about yes
what chat about West Ham and it's fine and if then um and I've got my phone is
on the table right in front of him because he's quite cramped on this table
now and he orders like a fried egg and bacon sandwich and that comes over and
then he sort chants me and he saw of quite clearly hung over and as he's messily
eating this sandwich
bits of fried egg
like runny fried egg
are just dropping
on my phone
right
and he's sort of
going yeah
fuck it
anyway
we went up to
fucking Bradford
about ten years ago
and fucking we had it
in Bradford
we've had it invented
and he's talking to me
and it's fucking
egg
it's just
all I can see
is my daughter's face
on my screensaver
just getting gradually
more ketchup
and egg on it
right
and what I should have done
if I was more like
I should have
and it really not
I wish I'd just gone
sorry mate
what are you doing
that's my phone
like there's a plate there
just fucking
eating over the plate
I wish I'd gone like that
I sat there
until he went
oh fucking hell
is that your phone mate
and I went
ah it's alright
don't worry about it
it's fine I'll just bloody yeah it's fine it worked quite yeah and i got a napkin
and sort of like started cleaning it and then he felt really bad and sort of started sort of like
trying to clean it it was just an awful situation but i felt so like i felt so worried about moving
my phone and offending him or upsetting him even though he was using it as a plate. It was, like, I wish I'd had more Romesh in me then.
I wish I'd gone, mate, come on, for fuck's sake.
And it was pathetic.
I just was like, this is cool.
No, but, yeah, but the thing is, the result of it is,
is he ended up apologising and cleaning the phone up.
And the result of my actions are,
that guy now thinks I'm an arsehole.
And also my son heard me be quite liberal with the F-bomb.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
But then also, there's a chance that your son goes into school and goes,
yeah, we were full of my way.
My dad nearly had it.
My dad was fighting.
And actually everyone's like, oh, my God.
And then they go back to their parents.
Whereas my story is that, yeah, Tom Davies seemed nice enough,
but one of the sweetest blokes you'll ever meet actually fucking offered up
his phone as a fucking plate for me to eat my fucking runny egg sandwich off.
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okay should we do emails yes uh once again thanks to the swan for selection
hi wolfhouse swan and cat this is from the brazilian capybara
capybara capybara uh as a long longtime listener and keen to share the joy, I had tried to get my partner to listen to the pod a while back.
I even put on a couple of eps to play out loud when we were cleaning the house, but he never seemed to get into it.
Fast forward about a year at this point, I gave up trying to make him listen to podcasts I like,
and he suddenly discovered your pod, which I should be happy about.
You might be wondering, what's the issue here?
Well, the issue is since then, only a couple of of months ago he's become a wolf and owl addict since he's got a
lot of catching up to do he's been listening to it from the beginning of all at all times of the
day playing episodes as we go to bed and not selecting the timer to auto stop which means i'll
wake up in the middle of the night to the sound of tom and ron whispering in my ears like they're
in bed with us he's also been using the podcast catchphrases like my guy and sweet sweet soul
as well as preaching about it to all his mates as if he just found out about the newest greatest
thing. Don't get me wrong I'm a huge fan and I love the pod but the fact he's ignored my suggestion
previously and now suddenly grew a huge interest in it to the point that wherever we are Tom and
Rom are with us has left me a bit annoyed as he's so late to the game one in which I've been in for
a long long time. This was my thing. I'm wondering if any of you've been in a similar situation with your partners where they've introduced something to
you and weren't interested and you weren't interested or didn't believe in their hype
hype or taste for said thing until you had to find out about it for yourself or the other way
around like some series movie song kitchen gadget or things alike thank you swan for selecting my
email and thank you both sweet sweet souls for bringing so much joy to my and also my partner's
day regards the brazilian capybara whenever this emails like this get selected i always think
the swan selected this yeah yeah she's obviously yeah i was thinking that as you were reading it
out anyway tom i well me and the cat have this quite a lot. Kat is very well read and very caring,
and she'll be, so things like TV shows and stuff,
we've always made an effort to be into,
so we'll watch a lot of the same stuff.
We don't really have that on television shows or films.
It's more lifestyle choices or food things.
Like, for example, she'll say to me,
I eat well like since you know yeah i try but i'll eat a lot of protein i'll eat carbs i won't necessarily and i
sort of said to her she was saying to me you need to eat more veg you need to eat more salad you
need to eat more fire you need fibrous foods right she's saying that to me for nearly six months
and i'm like yeah whatever yeah and then i spoke to stan and i was like yo weight loss wise and trying you know and there's anything you can he was like maybe you should eat
more fibrous foods and then i went in the other day and went uh you know what i think i should
do is eat more fiber and katherine was like i've been telling you that for fucking six months
i've been telling you that and it's so like it's like for example i i chatted to you once and you
said about meditation and fucking like you know meditating and take uh yeah and she'd been telling me that for like three years because of my anxiety
my alex did like maybe just ground yourself and i'll go oh roma said about meditation she's like
i've told you that for like she and it what it is is it's an element of the small things that we're
talking about is a version of people not hearing you. It's not being heard.
It's not necessarily about,
and I think in this case it's sort of,
when you're really into something,
but also you're saying,
I think this would be a really good thing for you,
and then someone almost feels like they're ignoring you,
and then when the revelation comes,
or you find it yourself,
it feels like you're quite unimportant within,
and actually it's, I think,
it's just a weird thing, is that when a person closes to you it's not a matter of like when katherine said it to
me i'm not listening it's it's probably a thing of that i i get to a point where i start thinking
i actually know i need to change that thing about myself so if katherine at that moment went eat
more fiber i go cool nice one thank you but she's looking out for me before I'm looking out for myself type thing.
And I think it's just, yeah, that's the hardest thing in relationships, isn't it?
I think at times is the feeling of, not considerations,
but it's making sure that you're both heard
and you both feel that the other person is listening and cares.
And that's the thing that I think these small things sometimes aren't about that.
It's about something a bit bigger yeah you're absolutely right um i i have a similar thing where i've
started moisturizing right and it's because somebody told me about moisturizing like someone
at work and lisa's been telling me to moisturize for years and years and for ages yeah and then
suddenly i i just bought a load of moisturizing stuff.
And then I started like moisturizing in the morning and Lisa was
like, what made you do this?
And really the nice thing would be is, oh, well, my darling, you've been
advising me for such a long time.
I thought I'd finally take your advice and start moisturizing.
But what I actually had to tell her was, oh, you know, that thing you've been
telling me to do for ages that I've ignored repeatedly?
Well, somebody else that I know a lot less than you
and I don't live with suggested it,
and I've taken that as gospel.
That's what's happened.
What I've done is I've ignored you who love me.
I've ignored your advice repeatedly
and consistently for a long, long time.
And one near stranger has suggested this to me
and it's changed my lifetime habits.
I've gone and spent fucking 400 quid
on fucking facial products.
Yeah.
And I've actually got myself better stuff than you've got
off the back of somebody else telling me.
It's not good.
How is your skin?
It's not good.
And I can't figure out why it is.
It's a similar phenomenon to
if your other half tells you that you look good,
it means very little.
No, no, no, no. I still try and look sexy for Catherine. If Catherine turns to me and says, oh, you look really cool in that, or you look good in that, I'll fill a million
bucks. I'd save you. the other day I put on an outfit
and I was going for a meeting
and Catherine went
you look really good today
and I felt like a million bucks
for the rest of that day
interesting
because I would say
if I was to
sort of do an exchange rate
for the Swan
I would say
one
it doesn't have to
it doesn't matter
what gender they are
one person
in the street
or at the gym
or when we go out saying that lisa looks nice is worth i don't know rough conversion a million of
me saying it that just off the top of my head i would say i would have to say a million times
no no but when she says to you when she says to you if she's um well look first of all i would say that be trying to
look sexy is i'm not sexy but you want to you want to try mate you look great at the moment i'm not
i'm not you have to own that me trying to look sexy is like me going i'm gonna try and look like
a dragon today no well that's sexy but you look nice at the moment I saw you this week and you look
fucking hot
you look
really
your clothes
are looking
good on you
there's a
confidence
around you
it's a
bounce
you look
nice man
and you
need to
own that
shit
you need
to feel
that
you literally
feel like
I've said
something so
abhorrent
it's like I feel like that've said something so abhorrent.
It's like, I feel like that guy out in fucking Fulham.
What could have been worse than Ted Romesh being a fucking prick?
I don't know, walking up to him going,
you're looking really well, mate.
It's weird, isn't it? I can't help it.
It's just my reaction.
Don't compliment him yeah don't compliment him
don't compliment him
whatever you do
he's really sensitive
about that
don't tell him
he looks like shit
but don't tell him
he looks good either
just don't talk to him
but he wants to be liked
so let him know
you like him
just a reassuring
pat on the back
yeah
don't tell him
he looks good
but what he will do
is after a couple of years
on the podcast
talk about how
nobody says he looks good
even though if you do say he looks good he'll react terribly people are
actually doing what he's what he wants them to do and that is sending him wild no be careful he's
one of our souls away from there okay next email is from the spotted stingray and the spotted
stingray says dear wolf al, Al, Swan and Cat,
very long time listener of the show
and always wanted to write in,
but I haven't needed to seek
your sweet, sweet advice as of yet.
Instead, since hearing this,
since hearing the would you rather email,
I've been trying to nail down
the perfect scenario to stump you both.
As I've come nowhere close to this,
here's one.
That's another format point that's fucking gone.
Yeah, I know.
As I read it, I just thought, oh God. Here's one to contempl's another format point that's fucking great. I know. As I read it, I just thought, oh, God.
Here's one to contemplate in the meantime.
Would you rather be heckled by a group of eight random people
every time you go to the bathroom,
they'll appear in the bathroom when you lock the door,
each person isn't able to record the events
or be able to tell other people about the ordeal?
You're able to communicate with them if you like,
not quite sure why you'd want to, but the choice is yours.
If the cubicle is too small, the rest of the group will heckle you from
outside alternatively would you rather from 1 p.m to 5 p.m each day your voice changes to a random
accent from around the globe your voice is still you however it is a very noticeable additional
twang added to it just to add in a further variable for the hell of it on sundays you won't
receive either toilet hecklers or an accent to your voice. Look forward to hearing your thoughts on this very important matter.
Much love, the Spotted Stingray.
Wow, there's a lot of thought and consideration
that's gone into this.
P.S. I've been travelling around Asia
with my best friend's girlfriend for the last five months
and I've been repping the pod
by wearing my Burrito Bar t-shirt at every opportunity.
Thank you so much, Spotted Stingray.
Thank you, Spotted Stingray.
This has been a real tough one
because at first,
I'd go with option two when I heard them,
but then there's a reason there that you have to explain it every day
to other people that your voice has a twang.
Yeah.
And that you'd have to explain yourself out of some quite awkward
and quite friendly, probably quite offensive situations.
You know, if you're acting changed,
and you just basically say,
oh, this happens every day between one and five.
We were going to go Crown of India tonight,
but Tom's gone that way.
So I probably have to swerve it.
Yeah, well, you'd end up, I think,
getting into quite a bleak place
where you probably wouldn't go out between one and five.
You'd sort of be up in the morning and an evening person. Yeah. probably won't go out between one and five you'd sort of be a morning and an evening person yeah you could never do anything between one and five
well lunch lunch foreign lunchtime meals are absolutely yeah yeah yeah you'd have to go for
a 12 o'clock lunch then just go home for five hours yeah and then hope he doesn't overrun
just realize in the last half hour of that lunch you're going to become extremely racist
the toilet heckle thing, quite frankly,
fills me with absolute dread.
That's almost like one of my
worst nightmares.
The only thing I would say
about that is, they're
not going to be able to keep coming up with interesting
stuff to say about it. I mean, like,
it's embarrassing for people to see you take a shit.
I imagine once that's
happened a few times
what's the variation yeah but i don't know if i've told this story before and getting into uh youth and bleak things i remember when i was a kid i was just so old it's not it's just sad but um
i remember going to the swimming baths with my mum and i was probably in middle school so i was
probably about not eight or nine and a bunch of
older boys from my school were there and they were there yeah no good story starts with a bunch of
older boys and they were like 13 14 type thing and and then there was a couple of the younger
brothers who were in my year anyhow I sort of been to it with my mum and then I went into the
she was like oh you can go in the boys changing rooms type thing so I went in there on my own
sort of feeling like oh yeah I feel pretty cool like, oh, you can go in the boys' changing room type thing. So I went in there on my own, sort of feeling like,
oh yeah, I feel pretty cool.
Like I sort of, you know.
And then usually I go in there with my dad,
but I was on my own.
And then I remember them all coming in
and just feeling that atmosphere change.
So I went in a cubicle
and then they just started kicking on the cubicle door
and banging on the cubicle door.
It was absolutely, I remember the fucking fear of like,
you know, what is going to happen here?
And then my mum sent a lifeguard in to help me.
Oh my God.
It was awful.
And I just remember getting walked out,
sort of still having to change,
and just being taken into the family changing room to change.
And,
you know,
that thing of like,
so weirdly,
I think that's going to give me like PTSD.
So I think there'd be a worry that every time i
wouldn't be able to go to the toilet anyway like anywhere i just i had a very i had a very similar
thing happen to me after an after-school sports thing i got bullied by a load of kids and then
in the scuffle i was sort of getting changed as it was happening and i was getting sort of
ridiculed and rinsed or whatever, my trousers
went missing and they had to call my mum and then I had to walk out of school with no trousers on.
Fucking hell. How are we still here? How? Like,
Like, it's so fucking bleak.
Like, you know, like, you know, sometimes we talk about,
you know when you see some get comedians and they're confident and they're like, and they get up and they do.
Like, how have me and you been through this shit
and we still have a job where we get up on stage in front of people?
But that, quite frankly,
when I think of
like the
eight people
every time you go
into a tour
heckling and
essentially bullying you,
I'm like,
no,
I think I'd take the accent.
I think I'd do that.
Yeah,
I think I would too
because I think brown people
can get away with it
a bit more.
Tom,
could you please do us the honour of taking us out?
Yeah, Kerry Lunsbrook was the sweetest of all girls.
She was kind and considerate, but whenever she had to make a decision,
she did it by the flip of a coin.
So if she went to a restaurant and she couldn't choose between
a chicken parmigiana or a steak she'd
flip her coin if she couldn't ever think of like where she was going to go one evening if she had
conflicting plans she could be going to make a decision it got to the point that whether she
was going to have a shower or a bath or whether she was going to have a lucas aid or a wow hydrate
was all done by the flip of a coin in a sense she could never make a decision herself
and then one day carrie woke up and a coin was gone she rattled through everything to try and
find it or just to find another coin but the year was 2045 and coins were hard to come by everyone
was doing things now by banking transfers she went out into the world and she looked at her shoes and
she thought should i put on my blue shoes on my world and she looked at her shoes and she thought,
shall I put on my blue shoes or my red shoes? She looked around for something to flip or toss,
but couldn't find anything. So in the end, she just thought, hmm, I'll wear my red shoes.
She gulped as she strapped them on and walked out into the street. Within two seconds,
someone turned around and said, hey Kerry, I like your red shoes. And she thought, huh, wow, that was me, I made that decision.
When she went for lunch, someone came over and said,
What do you fancy off the menu?
And she looked and thought, usually I toss a coin,
but you know what, I'll have a margarita pizza.
The person turns around and said,
This is a burger joint, we don't sell pizzas.
And she said, Well I'll have your biggest burger then.
And she was eating and she thought, oh this is delicious.
I'm glad I went for the burger and didn't go
to the pizza place.
As the day progressed, every decision she made
made it more powerful in herself.
She felt stronger almost, not relying on a coin
to pick her up.
As she lay in bed that night, she thought,
hmm, should I watch TV or read a book?
You know what, I'm just going to go to sleep.
The truth of the matter is, it's easy to rest on other people to make decisions for you.
To follow other people's paths instead of concentrating on your own journey.
But for the most part, the best thing you can always do is make those tough decisions yourself.
Sit there, have a think and go, you know what?
Today, this is the path that they must tread. Be strong, be wise, but most of all, be considerate. Thanks for listening, guys.
That was really good
okay well listen
thank you so much
for listening to the podcast
you've been a delight
as always
thanks for
for joining us guys
I don't know why I said
you've been a delight
I've got no idea
how you've been
but I'm assuming
you've been a delight
yeah I think I have been
I've been listening
to a lot of Beyonce
this week
whoa
so i'd
love i'd love if we could go out with the with beyonce's cuff it but could i request jt that
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