Wolf and Owl - S2 Ep 4: Sleeping Styles & Seaweed Scandals
Episode Date: July 13, 2022We’re talking… hot sleeps, night-time toilet trips, beach bodies, prams on the sand and screaming into the sea, security tags, spring-loaded napkins and a scandalous revelation about crispy seawee...d. Then we take a look at some emails about ‘hotness as a state of mind’, birthday trip ideas, favourite films and a tricky relationship quandary. For questions or comments please email us at wolfowlpod@gmail.com - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch - https://wolfandowlpod.com/ A Shiny Ranga Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Yeah.
Yeah, what you want? Beak or jaws? Feathers or or fur sharp teeth or feet with claws whatever's
preferred they'll grant you all last requests to steady your nerves then podcast the body parts
get severed and served bring your weak shit where the wolf and owler that ain't just a mistake that's
an awful howler both of them are known to pull up at your shows have the crowd witnessing the
murder like they rolled in with a gang of crows
Fuck the censorship, let them see the whole thing
They stay dressed to kill, never sheep's clothing
Dark enough to turn the sun to the moon
You'll see nothing, all you hear is a huff a puff
And a
Expect killings, red spilling and flesh ripping
Impressive in it, the death bringing it's head spinning
Just kidding, every word in this song
Is about two grown men dressed up as a bird and a dog yes once again inside your grill it's a wolf an owl time not no it's not time to chill
it's time to time to just live your life and go crazy let your ears just do the let your ears do
the walking and your feet just chill yeah absolutely or but you know you might be walking
and listen to this in in which case, like...
Take a seat, because you're about to get blown away.
Yeah, but you don't have to sit down, like, if you're doing this.
Are you vaping?
No.
Mate, are you vaping at 7.41?
Yeah, I'm going to put that away.
What flavour is it?
I'm in a bad... It's coconut melon.
I'm in a bad way today.
I'm not going to lie to you.
Oh, hit me up. What, Hangover? No, not Hangover, no. Party Rom has very much been in his shell. it i'm in about it's coconut melon i'm in a bad way today i'm not gonna lie to you hang over no
no no party rom has very much been in his shell um uh i uh i just could mate last night got but
i did league of their own last night yeah got back just so hot i couldn't sleep oh man i could
not sleep the worst i'd say one of the hardest things of having a tiny baby, she's seven months now, but is the heat.
They just can't compute the heat, can they?
They just don't know what, like she just feels so flustered.
I fucking hate the heat for sleeping.
Yeah.
Do you know, what is your sleeping position?
Because I like to put the duvet between my legs
and have one leg in, one leg out.
Oh, my God, that is literally what I do.
Really?
On your side.
On your side, yeah?
Yeah.
Facing out or into the bed?
I face...
I'm nervous now that I'm going to say the wrong thing,
but whatever you do.
I do whatever you do.
I face out because...
Yeah, me too, me too, me too, me too.
I face out.
I think for katherine
the best thing in the morning is to look at the back of my head rather than steam seeing me sort
of like snoring and breathing like do you know do you know one of the things that i discovered and
i don't know if everyone discovers in this discovers this in their relationships is that
when lisa and i first got together we'd like hug in bed or be like an arm round and then and you'd
say things to each other like oh
i could be like this forever or isn't it a shame that we've got to get up and start the day this
is so nice and then eventually a little bit into the relationship lisa said i actually get quite
hot in the night and i don't really i don't really enjoy sort of being touched too much and now i i
think if i if i if my skin touches touches Lisa's skin in bed now,
I have to apologise.
That's where we're at now.
Your bed is like being on a tube with a lot of people you don't know.
100%.
If my knee touches hers, I have to apologise for manspreading.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
And then I think to myself,
so all of that about wanting to have your arms around each other,
that was all bullshit, right?
That was,
that was just like a thing that you fake while you're still trying to.
You got groomed, bro.
I basically did.
I did get groomed, man.
We,
we have a thing at the moment where,
cause we're,
we're having a little week away.
At home,
we've got,
you know,
the,
the,
a bed,
like the van bed,
I think it's called.
So you've got the two matches that are pushed together.
Yeah. And it's like, makes a bigger bed. But also if I moved you in the um a bed like the van bed i think it's called so you've got the two matches that are pushed together yeah and it's like makes a bigger bed but also if i move during the bed uh move during the night it means that she doesn't like she doesn't like feel me sort of like
the ripples of my movement throughout the night is it waterbed no no no but even on the hardest
of matches when you're six foot seven and weigh 21 stone,
you move.
I mean, to be fair,
people in the house,
other people in the house know I've moved.
You sometimes move and then she sort of rolls into you.
And I'm just there with open arms.
Oh, God.
Come to daddy.
Actually, last night she said,
I can tell that you're lighter in the way that you're moving around i had to basically you know when you
wake up all you want to do is fall back into bed after taking a piss at night yeah yeah you know
with all of your like the most dramatic like you're sort of like i don't know like someone
who's just been dumped on in neighbors and you just run to your bed after talking to mrs mangle
and just throw yourself into the sad song and then sob into your pillow yeah yeah but now i tried it
really lightly i literally put my knee and then just slowly sort of like get into bed just not
to wake her i've got to tell you man i'm having an absolute purple patch for um what a boring thing
to say but i'm having an absolute purple patch for not needing to piss in the night what i don't
know what's happened i don't know if like my fucking
bladder's got younger
or something
I don't know what's going on man
but like
I haven't
mate
for a long time
I've been getting up
I would say minimum once
yeah
possibly twice
to take a piss in the night
just not happening to me anymore
I don't know what
I'd love to know
what I've done
are you drinking less water
before bedtime?
no I'm drinking
I'm drinking a lot of water.
A lot.
A lot.
How much is it?
Four litres a day?
Oh, no.
Okay, no, no.
You've absolutely fucked it there.
No, I'm not drinking four litres a day.
Between two and three litres.
Yeah, that's good, two and three.
Because you know what?
You don't want to drown your intestines.
Well, does that make sense?
Do your intestines have lungs?
You've got to be really careful not to drown
whatever parts of your body in the water.
You just don't want to drink too much water, basically.
Okay, yeah.
I mean, it could be expressed like that, couldn't it?
It doesn't sound as dramatic, does it?
No, but it does sound correct.
Be careful not to drink too much water
because excess water can make you...
Yeah, you know.
Whereas if you go drown your intestines, you sound like an absolute fucking legend now i get you i did i did think
what who's this fucking edgelord do you like going to the beach you're a beach guy i used to not be
because i i just lisa's basically made me a beach guy and that sounds like she's changing me
gradually day by day until I become the husband
that she needs me to be
I didn't really used to give a shit about laying out in the sun
and stuff like that because
I didn't want to work on my tan particularly and I found it sort of boring
but yeah I love it now
I love it
there's two different things here
laying out in the sun by a pool or in your garden
I'm all about, I love that shit
a beach number one I've always found a beach a pain in the sun by a pool or in your garden, I'm all about. I love that shit. A beach, right?
Number one, I've always found the beach a pain in the ass
because you've got to fucking lug a load of shit
across fucking terrain that isn't fit for walking on, right?
You've basically got to camp there, right?
Yeah.
Also, now you've got grace.
You've got a situation where you've got to push a pushchair across the beach.
Push a push chair across sand
like there's nothing worse than like being a giant man trying to push a tire and like grace
is looking at me as if to say come on mate this is embarrassing now you're out of breath you're
sweating yeah and you're trying to push me across very soft sand yeah so then you end up holding the
baby under one arm and the fucking pram under another and walking like you're sort of like,
yeah,
it's,
it's not a good look,
bro.
It's a bad look because actually the truth is people that aren't you and me,
they spend their year.
Well,
not their year.
That might be an exaggeration,
but they spend a lot of time getting themselves beach ready,
right?
Summer body ready or whatever,
right?
Which,
which I'm assuming you've never done.
I've never done it.
And so what happens is it's a very embarrassing situation,
the beach scenario,
because what you have is a lot of people,
particularly when you're on holiday,
you have a lot of people that have spent time
making sure they look good in that scenario, right?
You haven't done that,
and then you've got to push a push chair.
It's so embarrassing.
I just feel embarrassed to be me.
Do you know what I mean?
You talk about beach ready
right
and being embarrassed
yeah
right
so I get everything down
then you unpack
you have to unpack the pram
and unpack everything
which is essentially
now setting up a little
basically a base camp
right
yeah
and then sand
I think sand's a mug
I've got no time for sand
like I literally
I think sand's mugging you off
rather than being the mug
yeah
it makes a mug of anything
you know what
I like hard sand soft sand I've got no time for it just gets everywhere I think sand's mugging you off rather than being the mug. Yeah. It makes a mug of anything. You know what?
I like hard sand.
Soft sand, I've got no time for.
It just gets everywhere.
I'm looking at the fact I have a daughter now,
and I'm like, that's going to be literally caked in everything.
She's grabbing sand.
It's all under her fingernails.
I'm like, that's an hour guard of my evening now,
trying to get sand. Trying to rinse yourself off without getting sand on yourself
between that and getting back to your car or wherever.
I'll tell you something.
It's like the fucking fox, the chicken and the great.
I can't figure out how the hell to do it.
Well, you know what?
Foreign beaches, for the moment,
a lot of them in tourist hotspots,
they'll have a load of showers.
English ones, we don't.
English, you go to a Portuguese beach,
they've always got a little walkway down to them.
So that takes half the battle. It's like we haven't even thought that anyone's ever going to go to a Portuguese beach, they've always got a little walkway down to them. So, like, that takes half the battle.
So you need to...
Like, it's like we haven't even thought
that anyone's ever going to go to these.
But it's like the Normandy landings,
the Romans invading,
and you're like, oh, no one's going to use these now.
I know.
Although I would say, like,
as you know, I go to Portugal a lot.
Well, once a year.
And they've got the little foot things,
the taps and whatever to show you.
I do find myself quite regularly getting into a little bit of a battle of wills with other people
because they're always being used, don't they?
Particularly at the end of the day, everybody's actually hammering it.
Oh, yeah.
There is no discernible cue system.
So what happens is I have a nice day at the beach with the kids
and then I'm trying to get them rinsed off.
My children couldn't give a shiny shit about where they get sand or whatever like i mean
couldn't care less oh you're frivolous with sand at that age yeah oh my god it's good to play with
it you're actually inserting it into your crack at that age i mean so so i'm trying to rinse them
off but then you just get people that sort of aggressive showers or aggressive you know they
believe that it's their right to be next damn the queue system and i'm just not i'm
just not holidays yeah i just don't think people i think that's i think people take up that holiday
from qm and i don't think people care about i think etiquette goes i think it's like weird is
everyone's just like we need that i think it's i think once you get on a holiday it's like what
we need to be on the beach as soon as we possibly can and then we need to be off the beach
as soon as we possibly can.
We're like,
there's got,
you know,
literally we need to be
getting the car,
the barbecue needs to be on.
Any sort of like,
oh,
actually that guy seems like
he's been waiting for four,
four hours to get to the fucking
water to clean his feet.
That just goes.
People just,
I don't think,
I don't think there's many times
that you see
the worst side of humanity
than at a busy water park
on holiday.
I mean,
like,
like getting in, getting to the lockers,
getting to the slides.
I mean, just everybody is just so desperate.
Do I sound like an old man?
What is going on with me?
We're both getting old.
It's a sad thing.
Oh, God.
But also, going to a busy water park,
you might as well just pay to go and stand in a really badly worked out queue.
That is one of the things that I love about post offices queuing systems did not absolutely did
not expect you to say that yeah but i'd say argos and post offices queuing systems are phenomenal
and i'd respect anywhere that's got a good queuing system i gotta say listen while we're getting on
to this uh the amount of wasted floor space in an august i already do find quite criminal do you mean it's like i mean what is going on with us tom what was what's
happening to us today i i just everything we sort of need and i say i say i say us i think it's very
much me that's the situation have you been pushchairs are a nightmare. What about...
A lot of the beaches have got water stuff.
Yeah, but I'll tell you what's a nightmare.
Nobody respects security.
I'll tell you what the worst thing is.
I'll tell you what the least fun place in the world is.
Water parks.
Water parks are terrible.
That's where you see the worst...
What the fuck?
Argos.
Oh, the wasted...
Jesus Christ, Romesh.
Fucking hell.
Yeah, but I agree with the Argos thing.
You know, Argos got so close to being the internet
and just fucked it up, didn't it?
Yeah.
I used to work at Argos.
Did you?
I don't know.
Maybe like two years.
It was while I was at school.
But I used to work on the complaints bit.
So I basically spent all day every
day dinner with people that are pissed off about something they bought from argus you know that
separate little queue on the the customer services desk it's like i remember like you get people turn
up without any proof of purchase or anything and they just what they want to do is and a lot of
people do this i've done this in the past where you just think if you are aggressive enough and
assertive enough they just have to do i do
think that sometimes that yeah it does work it does work i mean it didn't work at argos because
you had to have a yeah i got some pretty stringent but mate i had a whole thing recently where i
brought that pair of a nice pair of shorts the other week and i had a fucking security tag in
it i can't remember if i talked about that on here but i basically put no i've yeah i bought a pair of shorts me and katherine were going out for a lunch date meeting some
friends i'm like really excited to wear these shorts i love my clothes i put them on i feel i
feel good i feel good i look at yeah and katherine oh you know there's a massive security tag on that
i look at the back and i'm like this is absolutely this is is a disaster. I can't go. Are we talking about the beige flying saucer?
Yeah, yeah.
But it's right around where my butt is, right?
I'd say, you know, if I'm sitting down,
it's going to be a hindrance to my butthole, right?
And that comes from a man who at times
inserts a pebble up his butt just to make it cool, right?
There is a situation now where I'm like,
can I wear a longer top like a you know a
long line t-shirt i can wear with this and to cover the tag yeah but then i'm like it's just
gonna be uncomfortable so now i'm sort of i email the i email the shopping question and i'm like
look you know this has happened what am i supposed to do i never i've to this day i've never had a
response this was months ago um shout out to everyone who got in touch.
I tried the fork trick.
Didn't work.
I brought some really, really strong magnets.
Didn't work.
And I'm like, now I'm like, what do I do?
Just throw these shorts out?
So I decided to go to my local town.
Your local town?
Yeah.
You prick.
Yeah, go on anyway.
So where's your local town to get
to get rid of it right i went to like nine shops before someone and they all treated me like i was
i'd had like 10 cans of special brew at like 10 a.m in the morning and fucking like just was
lurking about and just literally had stolen these yeah one woman said to me, if you can get some documentation that proved, like a bank statement,
that you proved that you've brought these shorts,
I'll take the tag off.
I was like, that's so much more work than I do on a day-to-day basis
of having to go through all of my bank statements to then prove that.
Imagine going through your bank statements
and the reward for that hour's time spent
is being able to wear a pair of shorts that you paid for.
I still have to send bank statements to my accountant to do my taxes,
and he has to remind me probably nearly every day to do so.
It's like, in the end, I know I will shout out, actually, New Look.
Shout out to New Look.
Went in there, the woman was an absolute blinder.
No questions asked.
Gave me a wink and a nod.
Took him off.
It was a bit like... So she gave me a wink and a nod, took him off. It was a bit like this.
So she gave you a wink and a nod,
so that suggests that she does think you stole them
and she didn't care, is that what you're saying?
Yeah, in a sense, but I don't want to get her in trouble.
I had grace with me at that point as well,
because I did actually think, you know what,
having grace, I think, might have been the turning point.
Because even if she thought I was shoplifting,
she probably felt sorry for me.
Yeah, she thought you were doing it for your kids,
she wants to sell some shorts.
I don't know what the sell on point
of these shorts
would have been
what kind of money
I'd be looking at
for that
but
do you find
that
having
grace
has made you
kind of
more attractive
as a
as a person
like do people
come up to you
and chat to you
and stuff
yeah
I'd say yeah people people often remark on what little like that attractive as a as a person like do people come up to you and and chat to you and stuff yeah i'd
say yeah people people often remark on what little like that someone said to me yesterday she looks
like a little baby doll she is a little cracker yeah um and she's always smiling she's always
really happy we went out for lunch yesterday she was happy through the whole thing she's a little
cracker like that oh you know go back to the beach thing as well do you know actually the worst thing
of the beach thing right i went for a swimming in the sea with my dad wrong right my dad took his t-shirt off
and my dad's got a six-pack what my dad's in such good nick like genuinely i felt like oh i've got
to take my t-shirt off next to my dad now and he's got a six-pack yeah like genuinely he looked he
ran into the sea like david hasselhoff and just took a leap in there did you know that he had a six pack no no i knew that he was in good nick but i didn't realize he
was busting that kind of vibe he still does weights now and he does like little tight shit
like genuinely i was like man do i just keep my t-shirt on that's the worst look isn't it you
can't go to see your t-shirt on because then you basically if you go the way i see you go to see
with your t-shirt on and you've got to walk back to your house half naked well it's not just that that's the problem is that
the other thing that i find is um you're okay going into the sea with a t-shirt on while you're
you haven't got into the water yet right yeah but then what happens is you come out of the water
and you've got a really clingy t-shirt on do you mean it's like it's just stuck to your body you basically look like a fucking seal do you mean i'd say that's
the best that is like i can wait to get into the sea like take the top off and then just dive under
the water so then i look quite brave it looks like i don't give a shit about the fucking the
hell cold the water is but then this is this is a mad thing i don't know if you've ever had this
because well you mean you've talked about this, because, well, me and you have talked about this before. Do you ever worry, like,
when you dive in the cold water,
about having a heart attack?
All the time.
All the time.
I was petrified yesterday
that, like,
Grace's first memory of the beach
would have been me leaping into the water,
really, like,
to sort of, like,
hide my muffin top
from the fucking world,
and then have a massive cardiac arrest.
And people dragging me out to sea,
me spluttering and someone saving my life
at the shoreline.
That really crossed my mind yesterday.
Well, the thing that I've got a problem about,
which I'm sort of loathe to say,
because I am opening myself up to an absolute shooing here,
is not only
the sort of worry about having a heart attack,
I cannot not
scream when I go into
ice-cold water.
What?
I think, out of the two
I think there's more dignity
in having a heart attack
than screaming
I've got to say
I do think
it would be better
to have a heart attack
and die
than do what I do
which is
basically
Theo
I'll give a shout out
to Theo here
he has changed my life
well he has changed my life
but in this specific thing
he has changed it
with regards to my
attitude towards going into really cold water because i used to think it was horrific and now
i think it's a game changer i think it's wicked right like going into really ice cold but
i cannot for whatever reason and and if i do manage to not do this it takes every sort of
fiber of my being to not go, as I go into...
Well, you do two, or is it...
I did that to be decent for the podcast.
I do more than that.
Every time a wave hits a new bit of untouched skin,
you'll get another sort of squeal from me.
Oh, my God.
I just so want to see you.
Can you imagine?
Do you do that little prance like a skip thing as
it hits you as well yeah yeah look all of the worst things that you imagine that i do
i do do those things can you imagine being a 12 year old boy and just thinking i just want to go
in the water with my dad have a bit of quality time with him this is our annual holiday and
then watching your father squeal as he hits the sea in a way that
you're not even doing as a child.
You know the worst thing of it as well
is because you'd be trying to
make it up to Theo like it's not too
bad. So you'd be smiling as you do it
so you look a bit like a sort of
like a Tory MP
in a fetish club.
Although it's
a little bit painful and it's a little bit painful
and it's a little bit of a kick in the dick,
you're actually quite enjoying it still.
It's fine, P.O.
It's painful, but in a good way.
Oh, God.
Massive nipple erection.
Yeah, and then I do that embarrassing thing of going,
it's actually really nice.
It's nice.
And then he's like,
Dad, you can't start enjoying it now
because you were so humiliating as you went into the water.
Awful.
All I can feel is,
I keep getting a vision of you, right?
Sort of like, on your hands and knees.
Sort of going, it's fine once you're actually under.
Licking your lips like you've eaten a bit of vegan burrito. Come on, Theo, it's fine once you're actually under licking your lips like you've eaten a bit
vegan burrito come on theo it's fine there's a lot of things there's a lot of issues i've got
going into the sea so one is the squealing uh and the sort of screaming uh the other thing is i'm
incredibly squeamish about anything that i don't know what it is touching my feet and legs. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, for example,
I don't even really like the sort of mushy kind of porridge-y seaweed
that you find.
Oh, seaweed can do one.
Sort of walking through it, I find it...
I like seaweed in a restaurant, but I don't like it on a beach.
Yeah, but that's not seaweed, is it?
Isn't it?
Are you talking about the crispy seaweed?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think you might have heard this conversation.
It's not seaweed.
What is it? It's just shredded cabbage. What? Yeah. I think you might have heard this conversation. It's not seaweed. What is it?
It's just shredded cabbage.
What?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Don't they?
Why are they calling it seaweed then?
What masquerade?
I guess at some point in the origins of that dish,
it was seaweed.
And I guess in some places you get it.
Literally, that's like,
you can't call it seaweed if it's not seaweed.
I genuinely want to go to it.
You're making me doubt myself.
Let me just Google this while you...
I think it's deep fried cabbage.
Hold on.
You're talking about the Chinese restaurant, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They just add loads of sugar to it.
Yeah.
Hold on.
Yeah, here we go.
The dish often served in Western Chinese restaurants is crispy seaweed.
It's not seaweed, but cabbage that has been dried and then fried.
Do you know what?
I don't think I've been this angry in a long time.
I'm absolutely...
I feel my shoulders tighten.
That's...
What a masquerade.
That's...
Like, genuinely, like, the amount of time...
Oh, this seaweed's delicious.
Just say it's cabbage.
Do you know what?
That is...
I don't know who's got together and done this,
but that feels like
you've mugged so many people off
and it actually makes
seaweed even more
fucking pointless
than it's ever been
the only thing that I used
to sort of look at seaweed
when it touched my leg
or it'd get fucking
stuck on something
that I liked
like a swimming trunk
sort of fucking
is I'd look at it
and go oh fucking seaweed
but then look at it
and go actually you know what
it tastes delicious
with some sugar in it
yeah I'd love you I'm annoyed of you now but i'd love a bit of you deep fried and a bit of
sugar added um but the thing i would say in response to that is crispy seaweed that you get
in the chinese restaurants there's never any point that i think i wish this tasted more aquatic
i mean all you're all you're after is crunch and sweet yeah but i feel like that yeah but yeah but
just say it's dried cabbage with a touch of sugar yeah but okay that sounds shit but it's honest i actually thought as
well there was a whole thing now that we'd all got together and said oh you can't lie on menus
anymore yeah but the dish is called crispy seaweed i think that's how you get away with it
yeah but it's not seaweed that's like me you turning up and saying oh do you want a muffin
and you're going oh yeah i'd love a chocolate muffin thanks tom and me bringing you a fucking chicken breast and you're going well this isn't a muffin? And you going, oh, yeah, yeah, I'd love a chocolate muffin, thanks, Tom. And me bringing you a fucking chicken breast.
And you going, well, this isn't a muffin.
I'd say, well, that's what we're calling it here.
Yes, I take your point.
But, you know, if you see the little sweets, the fried egg sweets,
they're called fried eggs.
You're not complaining about those, are you?
Yeah, but they look like fried eggs.
And I know that.
And seaweed looks like seaweed.
I don't eat one of those.
It looks so much like seaweed that up until about five minutes ago,
you thought it was. It's only because I told you that you think it's cabbage. of those until I go, oh, you know that's a sweet. It looks so much like seaweed that up until about five minutes ago you thought it was.
It's only because I told you
that you think it's cabbage.
Yeah, but,
rum, rum, rum.
Like, I don't eat one of those
little fried egg sweets
and go,
oh, that's delicious.
What a nice fried egg.
And you go,
oh, you know that's a sweet.
And I go,
oh, what?
I know it's a sweet
because it comes in a sweet jar.
Like, genuinely,
the seaweed,
they've made it look like seaweed.
They've made it,
and also,
I swear to God,
it's got sometimes quite a sea sort of smell to it.
I can't even tell Catherine
she's going to be absolutely mortified about this.
I don't think she's going to be as angry
as you think she's going to be.
I think there's going to be a lot of anger towards this.
I think she might say...
I think you might go in and go...
I will go to my Chinese...
Because I go to...
Shout out to my favourite Chinese restaurant.
Like, walk this way. I go all the time. I go to my Chinese, because I go to, shout out to my favourite Chinese restaurant, like,
walk this way,
I go all the time,
I go to Wonky's,
I always have seaweed,
because I actually find it a nice garnish
to sort of sprinkle on any dish
that you have at Chinese Takeaway,
right?
Right, right, right.
When I go,
and they say about seaweed,
I say,
don't,
don't even now,
just keep that to yourself,
I'll just sprinkle some,
don't,
don't,
first of all,
it's your favorite chinese restaurant
okay yeah let's we can get into the we can get into the semantics of the fact that your favorite
chinese restaurant is called what's it called walk this way walk this way okay walk walk walk
this way yeah no i get it i get it walk this way right so um you know what that says about your
taste in chinese restaurants we'll leave to one side you cannot hold walk this way responsible for the entire
chinese restaurant seaweed policy yeah but it's not fair we don't have to do something about this
it feels like i generally think listen up until five minutes ago you loved crispy seaweed yeah
until i found out it was just cabbage i didn't also let me just say cabbage should be ashamed
of itself cabbage is not gone oh, can you do me a favour?
Can you call me seaweed?
It's not cabbage's fault, is it?
Right, cabbage, for number one, it sneaks its way into crunchy salads, right?
And you've got to pick your way, you know.
Cabbage is fine at Christmas.
Like, you add a little bit of, like, red wine vinegar or whatever.
Oh, that pickled cabbage.
You're talking about pickled cabbage?
Yeah, pickled cabbage.
Lovely.
Yeah, that's actually seaweed.
I actually feel bad that I've told you.
Someone had to.
I was going to find out at some point.
This is probably the best way.
It'd be better than this than finding out
halfway through a lovely Chinese takeaway
and someone's like,
oh, it's just not seaweed.
So tell me this.
You've had a few minutes to process it.
What is going to be your attitude
going forward to crispy seaweed? You're not going to have it anymore? Probably not, no. I don't like minutes to process it what is going to be your attitude going forward to crispy seaweed
you're not going to have it anymore
probably not no
I don't like liars
you're not going to have
you're not going to have
something that you love
that you
by the way
that I know for a fact
from the way you've described it
that you sprinkle on
all your Chinese food
like salt and pepper
yeah I love it
yeah
so you're not going to have it
on principle
I just don't think I can
I just don't think
I can have it around me
for a while
I'm going to have to let this
I'll probably have two or three Chinese takeaways
in the next couple of weeks and see how it has been out.
And if it is...
I guess I'll just then have to look at it and just go,
look, I'll just have to make my peace with it.
But if the person says, do you want seaweed?
I'm going to say, look, I know what's going on here, mate.
I'm not one of these punks who come in
and doesn't have any idea what the score is.
I know what this is
No, that's where you made the mistake
Almost everybody knows
that it's cabbage
but they won't be kicking off about it
I'd like to get a vote actually
from Wolf and our listeners
how many people know that this isn't seaweed
Get in touch, wolfalpod.gmail.com
Let us know if you knew
that Crispy Seamas actually two things two
things i'd like to know one did you know that crispy seaweed was not seaweed and two do you
care that crispy seaweed's not seaweed i'd love to know those and while we're at it can i just
say as well uh what is going on with restaurants and napkins what do you mean well it's like now
you go prep a lot of these coffee places, these cool coffee places,
they don't give you napkins anymore in your bag.
Okay.
First of all, these cool coffee places like Pratt, what are you talking about?
Is Pratt somewhere you take someone to impress them?
That's normally where we have most of our business meetings, Shiny.
Well,
I'll tell you what. I've got a little suggestion
for you. Don't, no.
A lot of people have meetings in Soho House.
Have you heard of Pret-a-Manger?
Right.
There is a
legitimate reason for that, Tom.
What? It's environmental.
Yeah, but... They want you to go and get the napkin if you need it.
I find it unhygienic for a start, right?
If you want a napkin, you can go get one.
Yeah, but then everyone's touching the napkins,
and then you wipe your mouth of it.
What?
Nobody's touching the napkins.
They stick them in the thing.
They've got the little spring-loaded...
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You need to get out there, mate.
You probably have too many people buying your coffee
and bringing it to you.
Wow.
That's an incredible pot shot from your fucking glass house.
But go on.
I think on set with you,
I've heard the words come from your mouth.
It's possible to get a bit of a coffee
more than I have dialogue.
Right.
They don't,
look,
McDonald's,
shout out McDonald's,
Burger King,
I think as well.
They have those ones that you,
The spring-loaded thing.
The spring-loaded,
yeah, yeah yeah yeah
Pret
have a box
and they're just all
put in a box on the top
Pret don't have that
that's not that much worse
I mean I don't know
if it's any worse
than having the spring loaded one
it is because
people are ruffling
through them
you can't pick up
just one napkin
carefully
yeah sure
but you don't
ruffle through it
and select your favourite
you just take a couple
from the top don't you yeah but sometimes I've seen favourite. You just take a couple from the top, don't you?
Yeah, but sometimes I've seen people take, like,
their fingers stroked through, like they're going through, like...
What, like a deck of cards?
Yeah.
Or a shuffle in them.
What do you want to be like?
I've seen that happen, mate.
Definitely, without a doubt.
Okay.
Well, I actually agree with that policy.
Really?
Well, I just think, like, you know, if they just throw a couple...
Not everybody wants that.
Yeah, but what if you're in a rush and then you're like like quick yeah i need my coffee i need to get to you know and then you get into your car and then you're just you're you're heading off
and then you're oh shit no that's what happened to me quite a lot there's no napkin right okay
if everyone got one yeah but also how many times have you been somewhere and you've gone oh my god
i've got a bogey up my nose.
I need a napkin.
You go in your glove box and you've got all your spare napkins to put in your glove box.
I don't really like seeing somebody remove a bogey
with a Pret-a-Manger napkin to finish with.
I think get something that's made for the purpose to finish with it.
Because then I'm looking at it and I'm thinking, that's for food.
I just don't like it.
Are you a mouth wiper? Are you a mouth wiper?
Are you a mouth wiper? Yeah.
Yeah, I love what I do with my mouth.
So then I end up ruining a jumper or
getting a gank all over the back of my head.
Do not wipe it on your jumper.
I've had to sometimes if they haven't put a napkin
in there. What else am I supposed to do?
Well, I don't know the answer to that question.
I don't know how much
debris we're talking about around your chops.
No, you know, sometimes if you've had, like,
particularly sort of frothy coffee,
and maybe, like, some sort of chocolate twist or something,
you'll have a little bit,
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get a little wipe here, a little wipe there,
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So sometimes when you're talking to people,
I suddenly become immediately paranoid that either my breast stinks
or I've got the little or i've got the little
crackhead white corner mouth thing going on but i'm not aware of that like i don't know what
happens every now and again i'll be in the middle of a conversation suddenly it occurs like suddenly
i feel a bit dry mouthed and i think oh my god am i talking to this person and i look disgusting and
they're trying to hide it and then i sort of like you i might have done this we're on talking to
you in the past i just start covering my mouth with my hand. I try and make it look natural.
Or I start looking away or I can't make eye contact
because I'm just concerned that I've got something on my face
or that my breast stinks or whatever.
Every now and again it hits me.
It's absolutely crippling.
I can't predict when it's going to hit me.
It's the worst,
especially in quite a busy social situation.
If you're at one of the event things that we've had to go to in the past.
And then you,
if that gets into your head that your breath smells there.
And also I know by the way,
cause I'm lucky enough to have a wife who will tell me if there's certain
things I'll eat.
And then Catherine was like,
have you had so-and-so?
And I'll go,
yeah,
yeah.
And she was like,
yeah,
I can,
your breath stinks.
And it would,
then I know that I'll cancel meetings the next day.
Cause I know that like the fucking ramifications of it
can last for 48 hours.
You could lose a commission.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
But also, you can brush your teeth like a thousand times
and still the fucking neck.
Because it doesn't even come from your teeth.
It comes from your gut, right?
Bad breath, yeah.
Or your gums if you've got bad gum health.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I worry about bogeys up my
nose i had a bogey up my nose the other day and you had to tell me which actually i will shout
you out for that because that was a very sweet thing yeah we have you got you can't let someone
roll around on that but you know what especially when your friends are giant and everyone's looking
up their nose yeah and we were filming as well i hate for you to watch that back i know that you
watch everything you do back whereas i would never see it but um i'd hate for you to watch that back. I know that you watch everything you do back, whereas I would never see it, but I'd hate for you to watch that back
and be devastated that you had a bad day.
Also, there was a whole crew there,
a load of people that didn't tell me.
Well, the truth is, in those situations,
they're sort of thinking,
we might have to reshoot some stuff
if this guy becomes aware,
he might ask to redo all of this.
Do you know,
the last time I went and got my teeth cleaned
at the hygienist,
she told me that when she's on a plane, because it's an enclosed space,
sometimes she can smell when people have got gingivitis.
Oh, my God, really?
Yeah, she's, like, really attuned to it.
So, look, I guess it's, you know, her job is to sort of assess the hygiene situation.
Like a superpower.
Because she's become so highly tuned to it,
she can tell when people have got gum disease on a plane or on a, sometimes Because she's become so highly tuned to it. She can tell when people
have got gum disease
on a plane or on a,
sometimes if it's an enclosed train
or whatever.
I mean, that is.
That is incredible, isn't it?
Yeah.
Also something I wouldn't want to have.
No.
As a thing.
No, because I bet, like,
more people in society
have it than ever we know.
Yeah.
Absolutely right.
Right, should we do an email?
Should we do some emails?
Yeah.
If I'm honest with you
I still can't fucking
that seaweed thing still
is it
I can't tell if you're doing this
no no no no
effect
or if it's really
no no no really
I genuinely just can't
get my head around it
I just want to kind of get to
meet the person
who first decided
to call it seaweed
and go
what were you thinking
well I think it
how long did you think
this lie was going to last
I think it must have originally been seaweed think this line was going to last? I think it
must have originally been seaweed.
Yeah, but then as soon as it became cabbage,
I just... I should have changed it.
What do you want to call it? Crispy cabbage?
Yes, that's what it is. That's actually not a bad
name. And I'd actually eat it then.
So you're not going to eat something you enjoy
of what? Principle?
Yeah, maybe. I just... I don't
know what to do at the moment. I just can't.
I didn't know that this was going to happen today.
Are you able to go into the emails?
Yeah, no, no.
Do you want to work this out?
I'll get through it, mate.
I was going to have a Chinese takeaway this week,
and now I'm like, do I say something that I know?
When I order the seaweed, should I just go,
and I'll have some seaweed, which I know, by the way, is seaweed.
Tom, you're working at a Chinese restaurant.
It's a slog, okay?
It's a difficult, high-pressure job, running any kind of restaurant's hard.
What you don't need is somebody phoning up to make an order
and they decided to challenge you on the principle of crispy seaweed.
Just fucking give these people a break.
I'd respect someone if I worked at a Chinese takeaway
and someone said to me, i know it's not seaweed and i'd just go cool and i'll just turn around and go
blah blah blah and blah blah blah yeah stick him some yeah stick him some extras when he rolls in
yeah yeah i think i would go if somebody went if i if i answered the phone and said hello
walk this way what can i get you uh right, I'll have the sweet and sour balls.
I'll have the Kung Pao chicken.
I'll have three portions of noodles.
I'll have a little bit of prawn crackers in that.
And, well, I'm going to order this,
but I know it's an absolute fucking sham.
The crispy seaweed, which I know is actually cabbage.
I would probably say, I'll just say, you know,
I don't care.
Yeah, but this is where you wouldn't be good front-facing.
Listen, thank God Argos didn't think so.
I spent two glorious
years working their customer services desk.
Yeah, but if me and you had
a Chinese restaurant together, I would have
to turn around literally the first week
of business and go, you're not going to be running the kitchen, i'm afraid because you can't like i will be better with people than
you do you know what i was about to disagree with you but i think you're probably right
based on based on how we are when we're out and about i would say you're infinitely better with
people than yeah i think it's not all it's not all my fault by the way i would say i i do think
i just i've got resting
indifferent face
do you know what I mean
I just don't look
you're constantly
I mean you're constantly
apologising for me
for some reason
yeah I do find that
I ignore his face
he's actually a nice bloke
you're constantly saying that
aren't you
everywhere we go
even when we're not
talking to people
you walk past someone
sorry about his face
sometimes I just want to have my arm around you all the time.
This first email, I'm going to say to you now,
once again, shout out to The Swan for selecting the emails.
This first email I'm going to say is something that we have had to address
for a while, okay?
Right.
And I think we're guilty of this
all right um now it slightly bigs us up here okay so i i well i'm not going to apologize for that
but i do think it's appropriate okay here we go christ almighty did it need that much build up i
don't know anyway this is from the beluga uh dear wolf al cat and swan i hope you're all well long
time listener first time emailer i love listening to the pod but i'm to have to pick you up on the way you talked about yourselves in the last
ep. I'm referring to the part where you're talking about your physical attractiveness and your mates.
You are hot. Hot is a state of mind, not beer. You can sell anything as long as you believe it,
which is not going to happen if you keep talking about yourselves like you work at a freak show.
Forgive me if this sounds patronising, but I know how much you bring up wanting to speak
about yourselves in a nicer way, so I thought I'd drop you a message.
You two put so much time into self-care and betterment,
from your fitness journeys, your fresh threads,
your hair care, your work and mental health.
That's fucking hot.
Wolf, you're a new dad juggling a career and a family
and still making hot boy decisions.
That's hot.
Al, you're super busy bringing up three kids
and smashing the comedy world big style.
That's hot.
What I'm trying to say is that hot is subjective,
and it's just what you make of it, and you've got a lot to work with.
You've both got partners who love you for who you are.
Talk about yourselves in a way to make them proud.
It's time for Hot Boy Summer.
You do you, Kings.
Wow.
What an email.
Wow.
That has made me feel uplifted.
That might have got rid of Seaweed Gate.
It's right. It's a state of mind, right? made me feel uplifted that might have got rid of seaweed cake but I do look
it's right
it's a state of mind
right
yeah
I'm lucky
I have a wife
who's always
I'm lucky
I have parents
that sort of
say lovely things
but then
none of this
is done for effect
it's like
I stood on a beach
yesterday
looking around
thinking
I don't feel
particularly positive
about myself sometimes I feel really great about myself I don't feel particularly positive about myself
sometimes I feel
really great about
myself
I dress well
I feel nice about
myself
I'll be lying if I say
you isn't fresh
but there's a lot
you know
the other day
when that picture
was taken of us
when we played
we did the
Liga Challenge
with a group
of teenagers
and then they took
that picture of me
and you
my gut is just
hanging out the
bottom of a really tight Irish shirt.
And I love the team behind League of Their Own.
I can't speak highly enough of them.
They're some of the best people I've ever worked on television.
I'd say it's up there with the best, most enjoyable shows to make.
They're an amazing team.
The team behind it, I just think they're incredible.
I think shout out to Jack.
I think shout out to everyone who works on that show. They're're genuinely like they make it such an amazing thing to be a part of
and I always want it's one of the shows I always wanted to be a part I love being on it
but there is a moment where you're like and I get it but it's always funny to put me and you in
skintight clothing that we never yeah I mean it's it's it's you get you're getting bonus points
there do you know in terms of like the V in terms of like I can't deny when I saw me and you on a massive
big screen in front of 85,000 people
both of our stomachs hanging out I'm like that's
what it is that's a lot we've
got but there's parts of you that just
goes it would be nice just to sort of look up and
go I don't look
at that thinking the first thing I
look in front of like
someone who's sort of half Irish looking up
and thinking,
Oh man,
I'm at Croke Park.
What an amazing thing is my,
my grandmother a bit and grandfather in life to see me here.
I look up and go,
I look at my gut and get over my shorts.
Yeah.
I think,
look,
Beluga,
thank you for your email.
You,
you've made me,
you have actually made me think about this.
Yeah.
Tom,
I want you to say that.
I want you to repeat after me. Okay. I want you to say this sentence. Tom, I want you to say that. I want you to repeat after me.
Okay.
I want you to say this sentence out loud.
I want you to say it proud.
I am Tom Davis and I am hot.
I've got people who can hear me say that in this house,
but please say it.
Please,
please.
I am Tom Davis and I am hot.
Yeah.
You've got to do the same.
Okay.
I am Romesh Ranganathan and i am hot wowza you actually you
there's a sparkling you you feels great yeah yeah yes you know what you look like you look like a
disney character who just sort of like defeated the sort of like an ice no you know what's gonna
happen sunshine back to the kingdom beluga's gonna regret sending that email because i'm just gonna
be like every week just like oh my god i'm so hot you do that by the way that awesome shirt is trippy as in it yeah that this shirt does help yeah it's good it's a
good shirt helps me look hot and you've got a nice natural wave to your hair at the moment as well
i don't know about my hair at the moment i love it don't even get me started it's uh it's very
very temperamental the old curls i mean one day you wake up you're looking fly as anything the
next day you wake up and you looking fly as anything the next day you
wake up and you look like well you don't look good i can't think of an analogy uh okay
uh next email this is from the zebra spider and the zebra spider says hi wolf alan swan i'm from
the south of england in a little town called waterlooville i do know that town love the show
i'm usually listening to it at work while tidying the shelves and just suddenly burst out laughing i can't imagine that's going
to happen with this episode or at the end of the day uh after caring uh caring for my one-year-old
son i love your comedy shows almost finished uh first year as a king i think it's great and
love devoid it's proper feel-good comedy so nice work lads i need some ideas for my 30th birthday
next year please i've had this idea i've been toying with i love the idea of a holiday cabin
in the woods near a lake or river i'm not a massive partying type so i just want something low-key i love the
outdoors and genuinely want to spend some quality time with my wife and son away from all the
stresses of life but i wanted to factor in something that my son would enjoy too so maybe
uh some outings to the zoo etc random hold on this question is totally unrelated to the
random question you have to watch one movie every day
for the rest of your life, what would it be?
I was expecting some
sort of really like hitty, knowledgeable thing
yeah, mine would be
Footloose, something about the film makes me uplifted
and also love the old school Beatle, Kevin
Bacon, this question
this is an unusual email
strategy
you think Lisa's read the first half
of this this one i'd love to hear i'd love to hear rob and tom talk about what they might want
to do for the birthday whether his cabin's a great idea and not read the question at the end of it
um firstly i think the cabin's a fantastic idea and i think i think your son will have
incredible memories man let me just say by the way like the beach and all that, what I think one of the most amazing moments
of my whole life
is just watching Grace go into the sea
for the first time.
Like having a little, you know,
Catherine Dippin, a little coach.
She was being supervised.
All right, okay.
No, no, we didn't roll her down there
and just saw her for the best.
Oh, gosh, it's beautiful
the way she struggles, isn't it?
She'll swim.
She'll get the hang of it.
No, it was one of the most beautiful things
I've ever seen
like an incredible moment
just amazing
and I think that's
yeah
so what an amazing thing
that'll be
in a log cabin
any one film to watch
every day
for the rest of my life
yeah
it's a really weird
I love Hangover 2
Hangover 2?
yeah
yeah
wow
you know what
it's easy to pick
a film like Goodfellas The's easy to pick a film like
Goodfellas
The Godfather
like pick a film
who wants to watch that
every day
you've got to think of
like you've got to put in
any factor
any mood
that you're in
right
I don't know
The Hangover 2
always makes me laugh
I think it's just
you know
that I'd say
The Hangover 2
or
man
nobody's asked for one and he says well look i
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Hey, how did your doctor's appointment go, by the way?
Did you ask about rhabelsis?
Actually, I'm seeing my doctor later today. Did you say rbelsis? My dad's been talking about Rebelsis. Rebelsis? Really? Yeah,
he says it's a pill that... Well, I'll definitely be asking my doctor if Rebelsis is right for me.
Rebelsis. Ask your doctor or visit Rebelsis. order up for rebelses but i just feel like if you're watching
a comedy every day for the rest of your life it would start to well yours has got to be like star
wars if i know that no it wouldn't be star wars you know what mine would be go on what's going on
sorry sorry what's going on with you because i'm leaning back like if if we were on like a film
panel show or a film review show that's how you lean back on a film panel show, is it?
A film review show, yeah, yeah.
Feet up on the table like you fucking just smashed it.
Is that just after you've said a joke that's got a round of applause?
You just sit back, feet up on the desk, have a little glass of water.
We'll see you on Monday.
Mine would be Back to the Future.
Oh, that's a good call.
That's a really good call. When I first watched Back to the Future, I think the Back to the Future oh that's a good call um that's a really good call when i first watched
back to the future i think the back to the future trilogy is up there for me i know people criticize
three but i love three it's probably my favorite yeah i love three we've talked about it before
yeah but the reason i love back to the future so much is i love the story and everything i love
doc brown i just love when i was a kid watching how cool everybody thought marty mcfly was when he went back to the
1950s oh my god you know when he pulls the thing off and it turns into a skateboard and all that
and then his mom's going oh my god he's a dream oh god you know the thing about it right is it's
like it seems such a great michael j i really watched we went back and we watched the um
his curfew he has an episode which I think is one of the best.
It's amazing.
You think that and Teen Wolf.
He was just so fucking...
Teen Wolf's another example of a film like that
where he's just an absolute don in it, right?
Yeah, but also he manages to be cool
but also the underdog at the same time.
That's so hard.
So no one would write a character like that,
but then portray a character
that is like accessible enough for if you're a bit of a nerd or you're a bit of a sort of like
outsider but also if you're a jock you can kind of go oh it could be me as well yeah i think that
marty mcfly would be the ideal best friend i agree i just think you just have an incredible
life if you're marty mcfly's best friend yeah i totally agree so what a great choice what a great
choice yeah do you know
what I'm almost
now just going to
probably come around
to yours and watch
back if we're in
that scenario
I don't
we're talking about
every day for the
rest I don't want
to watch back to
the future the
every day for the
rest of my life
no no but I'll
probably watch
hangover like two
for like a few
days and just come
around to yours
and watch back
to you because I
know you
let's do that
let's do that
yeah that's good
I've got a feeling
I'll be coming
around to yours
more than you
I think you'll
probably watch
hangover too like maybe for the first I think you'll probably watch Hangover 2
like maybe for the first few weeks.
I'll definitely watch Hangover 2.
It'll just be at my house
if I feel like watching it.
Zebra Spider,
thank you for that absolute rollercoaster
of an email.
Wowzers.
Appreciate it.
Happy birthday.
Happy 30th.
Enjoy it, brother.
Happy 30th, man.
I hope it goes wicked.
I hope it goes wicked.
Keep doing you, bro.
You sound like an amazing human being.
You sound like an absolute king.
You sound like a hot king
no I shouldn't have said that
okay
next email is from
please keep my name anonymous
I'd like to start off
with the usual stuff
that you don't read out
I have actually been
reading it out
because
this is hot boy summer
I'd like to start off
with the usual stuff
that you don't read about
how much I love the podcast and the content that you guys create
or are a part of.
Merging Successful is a personal favourite.
Rom, I also love the new series.
I don't know how much you loved it.
I haven't even named it.
I've got a bit of a dilemma that I would love for you guys to weigh in on.
I'm 25 years old.
I've been with my girlfriend for six years now.
We pretty much went through our entire school life together.
So she's been a huge part of my life.
Our relationship is great, but sometimes I do wonder
what it would like to be single as I've never really experienced it. I work a huge part of my life. Our relationship is great, but sometimes I do wonder what it would like to be single
as I've never really experienced it.
I work a relatively demanding job in banking.
I've been fortunate enough to have been offered a position abroad,
which presents amazing benefits.
This is where the dilemma begins.
On the one hand, it's an incredible opportunity,
and one, I may not have the chance to take up again and live to regret if I turn down.
But on the other hand, it would essentially mean leaving my girlfriend here
and ending our six-year relationship.
It's not possible for her to come,
even though there's nothing wrong between us.
We do not live together yet.
I've moved out on our own,
but it's something we've been talking about doing.
In my own mind, I'm steering more towards taking the opportunity,
but am I a bad person in doing so?
I feel like the decision to move would be a huge shock to her,
so I'm unsure whether to even speak to her about it before,
as I know she would be strongly opposed to the idea.
We'd love to know what you guys think and what you think I should do.
Jesus Christ, this is a tough one, isn't it?
Well, well, well.
So you've been with us for six years
from the age of 19.
It's obviously a sticky problem, so doing a stupid little rhyme
is the most appropriate thing to do.
I would
say, number one,
I think, speak to her.
I think that is
a good, honest conversation of where that is the, a good,
honest conversation of like,
you know,
where you're at as a person,
what,
what's going on,
what this chance means to you,
you know,
what you think your benefits of you doing,
you know,
and also I think at this point probably having like quite honest discussion about where your relationship is at on a person.
I remember years and years ago being offered to
when i was first i've probably been doing stand-up for about three years and then i got offered to go
and support someone doing like on a tour to australia australia and new zealand and um
like i was with uh an ex-girlfriend at a time and sort of was like I really wanted to go I thought it'd be amazing
for my career and I was really sort of and also our relationship wasn't in a great great place
but I sort of in the end decided not to not to go basically and just to sort of like try and make
the relationship work and we ended up splitting up about a month and a half afterwards and you
know so it was an amazing you
know don't don't things have turned out all right but i constantly look back at thinking what an
incredible thing that would have been just as a life experience to have done yeah that i didn't
do and if probably i'd had that conversation and turned around and said that this is how i feel
this is where i'm at um i think probably both of us would have decided to sort of like call time
of death around then but instead what happened was to sort of like call time a death around then.
But instead what happened was I sort of almost resented the fact that I didn't go do the thing that I think I wanted to do.
And, you know, I didn't probably work as hard as I could have at the relationship.
Things have all turned out great.
That's life.
You know, things are amazing.
But I think if I just had that conversation, it probably would have, yeah, probably would have been a little bit easier.
So do it, man. Have the conversation. Don't make any choices till then. if I'd just had that conversation, it probably would have, yeah, it probably would have been a little bit easier. So,
do it,
man.
Have the conversation.
Don't make any choices till then.
But I think,
you know,
a face-to-face would be a good thing.
Um,
great advice from Tom.
I'm sorry to hear about your relationship,
Tom,
as well.
No,
no,
it's not.
Yeah,
Catherine's,
yeah,
Catherine's,
yeah,
it's all worked out pretty well.
I can't,
yeah,
no,
yeah,
both my career and my wife.
Yeah,
yeah,
great. So, too hot boy there, if you don't mind me saying, but, I can't. Yeah, no. Both my career and my wife are great.
You're a bit too hot boy there, if you don't mind me saying.
Okay.
This is what I think.
I do think you need to talk to her.
How I feel is, if I...
And I know I'm in a different position
because I'm in a marriage with three kids.
But I can't imagine an opportunity that I'd even consider
if it would potentially lead to the ending of my relationship.
I just can't visualise how that would happen,
and I don't think I would have ever felt like that
since the relationship between Lisa and myself got serious.
So I guess what I'm saying is,
I think the very fact that you're thinking about it and that you're considering the opportunity sort of suggests that maybe it's the right thing to do.
I think, do you know what I mean? Because I feel like if you really wanted to be with this person, regardless of anything, I don't think it would be as much of a dilemma as it is.
And look, I don't know how possible it is for her to come or not you said it's not possible
but um I think what Tom said is right is that you need to talk to her and see what she says and say
that you really want to do this thing and then come to a decision together she won't like it
she it will be a huge shock to her but those aren't reasons to not talk to her about it in
fact those are reasons more so to talk to her about it. One of the things that people do in life,
and I'm guilty of this,
and I've wrote a whole show about doing this,
which is basically where you see things like this
that are difficult and you decide not to do them.
You get scared of doing them
and you don't grab the problem by the scruff of the neck.
I think you need to have this conversation.
I think you need to say exactly what you said in this email
to her and see what happens
because you're obviously seriously considering it and she needs to know that do
you know i mean so um look it's not going to be easy either way but i think you need to open up
that conversation as soon as you possibly can that would be my advice to you um i hope that's useful
good luck please let us know how it works out go on my soldier go on my g um okay tom it's about that time take us out of this my my my oh god okay can you just do the end
bit please yo people friends leaders brothers sisters those who accompany us on this journey i want you to kick back and relax and
think about your problems i want you to think about your problems like you are maybe collecting
them like life is a supermarket and as you go around you are getting little bits here and little
bits there from different aisles different problems of different levels of importance
i want you to then imagine that at some point all those problems come
together like you're paying for them at a till and when someone asks for a carrier bag you say
nah I'm all right I will just carry them in my arms and what will happen as you slowly walk
down the street is you'll struggle.
You'll struggle more and more with a load of problems because you'll be trying to hold this bit and some rice will drop on the floor
and then some squash will start rolling out of your arms
and then you'll sort of struggle and then it will just all become harder and harder.
And eventually you'll probably have to sit down on a small wall or a bench
just to sort of like say, I can't't get home i can't carry on like this
because the load within my arms aka the problems are too much but if you were to put those problems
in a carrier bag which is almost like a friend that you share those problems with you find that
the journey home would be that little bit easier what my point is is this sometimes don't try and be a hero by walking through life carrying
too much unload find in life a carrier bag of a friend who can hold those problems for you just
for a little bit until you get them home and you've worked them out and then you can cook a
lovely meal and actually the problems that you thought you had were nothing but a great meal
or the ingredients for such.
God bless you all.
Beautiful.
Absolutely beautiful.
Guys, I hope you heed that advice
and hand over that carrier bag
to somebody that you care about
and you get the home
and you get those groceries out
and you make
yourself a sumptuous sumptuous meal um take care of yourselves tom it's been a pleasure to chat to
you how would you assess this episode i have never any idea of these no jt i've got no idea
yeah let us know uh good luck guys take care of yourselves thanks for listening
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