Wolf and Owl - S2 Ep 41: Dental Care & Disney World
Episode Date: April 5, 2023We’re talking… early morning starts, minty fresh breath, burping actors, a trip to Disney World, Marvel Rom vs Star Wars Rom, being born as a 43-year-old, Pontins talent contests, quitting Twitter... and coming up with character voices. Plus, a couple of email questions answered about being on celebrity shows and our best (or worst) spontaneous decisions. For questions or comments please email us at wolfowlpod@gmail.com - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List- https://wolfandowlpod.com/ A Shiny Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: HELLO@KEEPITLIGHTMEDIA.COM Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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He
Tom Davis
7.22
Saturday morning.
What are you going to do?
Wolf and Owl up in your face.
Yes, yes, yes.
Hello, Tom.
Hello, mate.
How are you feeling?
Quite tired.
I don't know how this is going to go.
I'd say level-wise, I'm exhausted.
Yeah.
Well, you've been doing big things.
We've had a very different week, you and I.
How freely are you able to talk about what you're doing?
I don't think I can talk about the project, but my days...
We can't say filming, aren't we?
We're allowed to say filming, aren't we?
We haven't been filming yet, have we?
Are we getting up every day at 4.20 or 4 o'clock?
Are we getting a car at 4.20 to then drive to London and get home?
You get up at 4 o'clock for a 4.20 car?
Yes, you've got to have a shower,
brush your teeth, quick coffee.
Yeah, sure.
I'd be getting up at 3.20.
Really?
Yeah.
If I have less than an hour before pick-up,
I get anxious.
What do you do in that hour?
Sort of normally I get up,
I look in the mirror for five minutes
and sort of list out what my targets are for that day.
Uh, then do a little bit of a stretch, then maybe some dry toast, then maybe look back in the mirror
for another few minutes, write down a second list about how I think I've gotten with the first list
since this, I made that list, um, then have a shower, then work out, then have another shower.
Uh, then finally get dressed.
And then just as I'm sitting sort of in my hallway waiting for the car,
I'll make a third list reflecting on how I think I did on the previous two.
That's sort of normally how I do it, yeah.
You're like a Wahlberg.
Yeah, you just have to do it.
I mean, like it's these little things that really make the difference.
If you want to hustle and, you know, really push it to the max, that's what you've got to do, man mean like it's these little things that really make the difference if you want to hustle and you know really push it to the max that's what you've got to do man you know well i i didn't
realize that every hour in the day is so sacred oh it's just every minute is just another opportunity
you know and if your eyes are open and your heart is beating then you can you're looking to really sort of speculate to accumulate. Yeah, 100%.
And my mantra is every single, as soon as your eyes are open,
that is when you start being productive.
Do you know what I mean?
That is, you know, you have to.
You have to.
I'll get up sometimes 20, sometimes 10 minutes before the car gets there, rush into the shower,
brush my teeth, maybe,
whiz down, throw some clothes on,
usually an outfit that, you know,
I then question the whole of the
accuracy, question why I've put on such a stupid
ridiculous outfit, does it match, even though
I'm going to be in costume all day, and then
sit in the car, try and sleep for like
the two hours I've been in the car for.
But I can't sleep until I'm stressed out in the shower. and sleep for like the two hours i've been in the car for um but i've got sleep so obviously my morning routine was a joke but i mean i still
do you really get up an hour before though i do yeah but but yours was not a joke but then you
said brush your teeth maybe um yeah yeah sometimes i brush my teeth when I get to set. So you'll be in the three-way brushing your teeth?
Is that okay?
Yeah.
Well, no, sometimes if I get there,
do you know one thing I can't stand?
Yeah.
Is minty breath and having breakfast.
Well, we know you can't stand minty breath.
I had to provide you with a toothbrush and toothpaste
midway through your shoot the other day.
Do you know what really fucking gets my goat?
Fresh breath.
Horrible.
What I really enjoy is musty, dank breath.
Yeah, the sort of musty, dank breath
that makes it difficult for your co-star to deal with.
That's what I like.
Some people talk about chemistry.
I like the person I'm acting opposite
to recoil every time I deliver a line
that's more than two or three words.
Firstly, I like my breath to smell like a damp dog
that's been out for like a four-mile hike.
Can I tell you,
that is one of the goals that you hit most consistently.
That's your Wahlberg moment.
Say whatever you want about Tom Davis.
His breath is always shit. And he never lets you down on that
it's always damp it's always fussy you always get a feeling you could comb his teeth rather
than brush them the reason i ask you is i find public toothbrushing uh tricky really you know
sometimes when you go to the airport and you see guys doing it in the bathroom.
First of all, I don't know why,
but there's something about brushing your teeth
near a urinal that I find appalling.
You brush your teeth near a toilet every day?
I know I do.
That's what I mean.
I'm not saying it makes any logical sense,
but in my head, I just find it a bit funny.
I think it's like the multiple nature of it.
Do you know what I mean?
Lots of urinals, lots of toilets.
Also, can I say,
I completely understand why you brush your teeth
in a toilet lab
because you've had your breakfast,
you're sitting on a...
Look, let me just quickly clear up something.
I'm a big tooth brusher.
I like to brush my teeth.
I just think I like to do it in a state...
I like to have my breakfast before I brush my teeth.
Well, that's disgusting.
Do you brush your teeth before breakfast yes that's insane why is it insane because then you've got mint do you re-brush them after breakfast yeah sometimes well then where do
you re-brush them why do i re-brush them no where where oh well i i normally have my breakfast
at home no but if you're on
set
because I know
you have a lovely
if I'm on set
I won't
if I'm on set
I won't rebrush
so basically like
that's like getting
your car washed
and then driving
through a load of
shitty fields
yeah that is true
yeah
yeah
but then I would say
I would say
that brushing your teeth
after breakfast
is like putting your car
in a load of shit
overnight
and then going out
first thing in the morning
and licking that shit
and swallowing it.
Do you know,
I work with an actor,
I might say his name
and JT can beep it out.
Yeah, sure.
So I worked with...
Oh my God.
And he,
all joking aside,
when you do a scene with him,
he will do, like, a massive...
Like, he basically...
Massive lunch.
Massive lunch.
And it becomes fucking all dizzy.
He'll do, like, a massive burp
and then blow it in your face
and then start the dialogue.
Just as bass is...
No, he won't.
I swear, mate.
He's quite famous for it within the industry.
What are you talking about?
He'll eat really, really, really, like,
sort of, like, quite funky food.
So it smells quite a lot.
He was obsessed,
obsessed when I was on there,
with, like, these M&S fajita wraps that they do.
They're quite, sort of, like,
they've got a pen to them.
And he'd just do this
he'd just like you he'd do a really like it like inhale do this real big burp and then breathe
out and then action and then he'd start a dialogue did you ever find out why that was
well i think the main reason was he's an absolute prick. Right.
I wondered if there's some sort of methodology beyond that.
That would be an awful method
that if you've got to a place in your life
where the only way that you could actually get a scene out
is burping in your co-star's face.
Yeah, I don't know.
I was quite lucky
because he's about, what, like five foot three?
Yeah.
Five foot four.
I'm like...
And without naming him,
he was...
He played... And he was he played
and he was also
yeah
can you blip those out
as well please
yeah
and then we can
reinstall those
those beats
once Operation Uchis
does its work
yeah
once it's been found out
here's a weird thing
I don't breath on set.
Hmm.
Not in any sort of way.
Like,
that's why I get the guys
at the airport
doing the breath thing.
What do you mean?
Because I think
they've had breakfast,
they've had a coffee,
they've got like a three or four,
yeah,
they've got a three or four hour flight
and they want to,
they don't want to sit next to someone
with bad breath.
No,
I get that.
Yeah,
I get it.
I'm not,
and I'm not saying
I wouldn't ever do it,
but I wouldn't ever do it.
Yeah, but also, look,
you're sitting in a private lounge for a start, right?
You're a private lounge.
No, I know you're a private lounge flexer.
I've seen pictures of you posting when you're flying
and it's just you like,
PLing it before I hit the fucking runway
with a picture of your Jordans all stretched out in front of you.
You love projecting, don't you?
So many things that you
absolutely fucking dig me out for
are exactly the things that you do.
Picture of Alex getting some free croissants.
Little man getting his brunch.
Said to him him fill your boots
we're not paying
I don't like the private lounge
I'm going to be honest
go on tell me why
I don't know
I find it quite sterile
I quite like the hustle and bustle
of the airport
I quite like
I think like you know
I quite like the feeling
of being in the airport
and it being too I remember the flight we got and you got out oh yeah you really felt like you were enjoying I quite like the feeling of being in the airport.
Remember the flight we got?
Yeah, you really felt like you were enjoying the hustle and bustle of that,
I remember.
Absolutely on top of the world.
Yeah, you're right.
Jesus.
You know what?
I envy Catherine that she gets to see that side of you every day.
Every time you two go on holiday,
I get to see that hustle and bustle Tom Davis that I saw when we flew to Ireland that day.
What a treat.
Yeah, I remember.
Do you know what?
I remember walking through the terminal thinking, this guy's buzzing his tits off.
He's just high on life here.
No, that was quite a stressful flight, wasn't it?
Well, you know, as stressful as a 45-minute flight can be, yeah.
It was because there was no good places to eat, I think.
That was what it was.
Yeah.
We had to have that rope what it was. Yeah. We had to have that
ropey old breakfast.
Yeah, and I remember
as he chowed down
on a breakfast
he absolutely hated.
He said,
this is what it's all about.
Hustle and bustle.
Wandering around,
struggling to get a table.
Shit food.
Oh, they forgot
my tofu.
Oh man,
the last time
I flew out
in relation to kids
we went to,
I think it's Giraffe.
I think I've told you about this.
They had this thing called Oggs, which is a vegan egg equivalent.
Mate, it ruined my flight, man.
Everything else was delicious.
So we should clear up.
You're flying today, aren't you?
You're out today.
You're flying today.
Yes.
Yeah.
Are you allowed to say where you're going?
Are you going to, or is this sort of?
I'm not allowed to say where I'm going. I'm going to... Or is this sort of... I'm not allowed to say where I'm going.
I'm going to Disney World.
Is it Disneyland or Disney World?
I don't know.
I've not been to either.
Well, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
I mean, you've not been to Morocco,
but you know what it's called, don't you?
Yeah, it'd be weird.
It wouldn't be weird.
Listen, I know that you get nervous
about being accused of being a nonce,
but I think knowing the difference
between Disneyland and Disney World is all right.
Well, I think also... It between Disneyland and Disney World is alright.
It's not the same as hanging around
a primary school
in New York.
Also it would
help my nonce
allegations if I
knew that much
about Disney when
I was 15 months
old and I'd
clearly been to
both a couple of
times.
Yeah, wandering
around Disney with
a toffee apple.
Sorry mate, are
you looking for
your kids?
Nah, I'm just
here on my own
mate.
Looking for some kids? No, I'm just here on my own, mate. Looking for some kids?
Why did I flip into my impression
when I did the nonce?
I think it's Disney.
I think Disney World is the...
I think Disneyland is in LA.
Yeah.
You'll be out there for all the whole
Trump stuff then, won't you?
What, with Stormy Daniels
yeah
yeah
it's going to be
difficult for us
to get time
to visit the Epcot
because I'm obviously
going to have the kids
around the TV
watching
how exactly
that unfolds
you can't watch it
over here
no no no
we'll say hello
to Mickey and Goofy
later
let's just see if
Donald gets his come up
I've got some good news
and some bad news
we are going to be front row in America
for the Stormy Daniels controversy.
What are you looking forward to most about being out there?
As you know, and as you've criticised before,
I'm a mind man.
No, I've got to criticise.
I think it's cute.
Yeah, which is the same as criticising, really.
I like your little Marvel stuff,
your fantastical adventures of the Spider-Men
or whatever it is you enjoy.
Can you give me this?
Because if there's one video I just want so much,
it's like when you get to Marvel Land
or the Marvelverse, whatever they call it,
it's just the thought of you basically
sort of get through the gates
and you just see Spider-Man or Iron Man or I don't know
one of the fucking other Captain America
and you're like oh fucking hell
and then you just sprint off
like Lisa's did with the kids
and you just hug one of them
and you're like I've been a fan of yours
since I was seven
and then like sort of like
do the spider web thing
and so all of that
what you just
described when you
said stuff like
spider man
whatever the fuck
these guys are
and you go on
all of that is you
saying it's cute
is it
that's not you
being disparaging
and horrific about
it no
it's cute
it's cute
you just
I just
I want to see
the picture
and please post
it on Instagram
of you with your arms around.
Because actually,
Marvel ROM's going to be
my favourite ROM,
I think.
I think Star Wars ROM
might come close,
to be honest with you.
Is Star Wars there as well?
Yeah.
Of course,
isn't it?
Oh, my God.
This isn't for the kids,
is it?
I mean,
it is for the kids.
It's not for the kids.
Your two favourite things
are in that place
and also that you can get fucking sick trainers out there.
Yeah.
The only thing that would make it better is if they had a little wolf world.
That would be...
That would be the icing on the cake.
Imagine if we tried to open a fucking theme park.
Yeah.
And we decided to sort of really double down and call it Party Rom Island.
Where are the kids?
Our kids are just at the Picardy Roms bar.
Where's your other half?
Oh, she's at the burrito bar having something absolutely dreadful.
Welcome to the Wolf and Owl World.
Have a good day.
Come get your arse pebbles.
Come get your arse pebbles.
Two for one and arse pebbles.
Essentially, you're Mickey and I'm Goofy, right?
What does that mean?
You're like the sort of leader, the cool sort of,
you know, you're out the front doing this
and I'm sort of like your able-bodied,
I mean, I am Goofy, whatever happens.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Rob and I, sorry, I'm eating while I'm doing this.
Rob and I did Disney on Ice. Yeah. Rob and I, sorry, I'm eating while I'm doing this. Rob and I did Disney on Ice.
Yeah.
And they brought out Mickey and Minnie on ice skates
to look at our ice skating.
And I got nervous.
Really?
Yeah, you sort of feel like this is Mickey Mouse.
I mean, it's obviously a person in a, spoiler,
it's a person in a suit.
Yeah, obviously, yeah.
There's still something about that sort of racism after they go out the suit about
like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa you've got no you've got no idea how this works have you
no you're you are not allowed to see that man well they don't so what are they like special
agents you're never even allowed to see them with the head off are you joking really no no
You're not even allowed to see them with the head off.
Are you joking, really?
No, no.
No, I'm not joking, no.
So it's like fucking covert FBI shit?
It's not FBI shit, no.
I mean, it's just you're not allowed to see them with the head off. Well, no, I mean, if you're basically in a situation,
it's like you'll be sacked and you'll never work for Disney again.
Like, if you...
Yeah, I mean, I do think the magic of Disney would be ruined
if, like, as soon as they finish their shift,
they pop the head off and start wandering over to the cafe. Do you not think? No, yeah, I think it would be ruined if like as soon as they finish their shift they pop the head off and start wandering
over to the cafe
do you not think?
No yeah
I think it would be
I mean it would be
terrible if you
sort of
you know
you're with the
boys
as with Grace
and all of a sudden
you saw Minnie Mouse
bowling past
and sort of
she's having a cigarette
and sort of
scoffing back
her sort of
big back
that wouldn't be
very fun
but
no
you know
what if there's
a big fire alarm?
I assume they
evacuate heads on
I don't know so that would be terrible wasn't it? if you like What if there's a big fire alarm? I assume they evacuate heads on.
I don't know. That would be terrible, wouldn't it?
You're literally,
everyone's running out of Disney World
and sort of galloping past you
and sort of goes many miles
with those big silly shoes they have to wear
and a massive head.
Just the horror of seeing a disaster unfold
and just Mickey with his hands on his face like that.
God, was it terrible?
Yeah, actually the worst bit of it
wasn't actually the big fire in the canteen.
It was the part that I got out sprinted by Donald Duck
on the way out in his full costume.
It was just so mad because I had to get past Mickey and Donald
doing some slapstick stuff on the way out
while people were running for their very lives.
They were like the band out of Titanic.
They were the ship.
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how long are you going
for uh just over a week
oh mate that's gonna be
amazing a lot of
memories gonna be made i
don't expect to see a lot
of pictures posted but
can you just send me some
pictures yeah the
memories being made is
the reason why we're
going now,
because Lisa wanted to go when they were younger,
and I just said, what's the point?
You might as well take them to some sort of camping site,
put some Mickey ears on them,
and then when they grow up, show them the photos and say,
this is when we were at Disney, because they're not going to remember.
Well, I'm the opposite.
Whereas now, they're going to remember.
I remember when I was really young.
Are you?
The Princess Castle stuff.
Yeah. Have you done Disney before? No. No, no. I've that. I was really young. Were you? The Princess Castle stuff, yeah. Yeah.
Have you done Disney before?
No, no, no.
It would be strange, like I say,
if I, oh, we're going to go back and forth this year.
Oh, no, no.
Oh, yeah, I forgot.
Sorry, Matt, I'm so sorry.
I forgot you were never a child.
You were born at this age, weren't you?
I'm so, I'm so sorry.
No, I'm born at this age.
I'm so, so sorry.
That is actually quite a good film.
I was no childhood film I was going
childhood
I was born at
fucking 43
born at 43
quite
quite
quite a heavy
duty birth
actually
yeah you might
think it'd take a
long time to say
the story of my
life but
actually I got
born
yeah
mother died
instantly obviously
imagine something
this size
everyone had to
get their heads
around it
obviously at 43 myold man being bought.
But my dad got me out to work within about two weeks.
And yeah, yeah, that's been my life ever since.
We never had money.
I just wondered if they might have.
Some people, even if they haven't got money to burn,
would save up.
It's like a big thing.
No, we were
we were very much
your version of Disneyland
that my dad would have
my dad would have made
mouse ears
and put them on us
and sort of said
oh no no
that's where you went
to Disneyland
and we were actually
being at a caravan
somewhere
we went to Pond
yeah
we went to Pond
oh is that
is that
is that
Donald Duck
no that's
Dean the Dinosaur
he was sort of
very big at the time
it's D-A-N
just because
there's some
copyright issues
with the actual
other Dean the Dinosaur
that another
park has got
he's got his
head mask off
oh no he doesn't
have a head mask
they only designed
the suit up to
the sort of neck
that's actually
the full costume
yeah but if you look
he's painted some dinosaur eyebrows on.
You know the thing about Pontins is like,
there is something like sort of traditionally British
and tragic about it.
But I remember, I mean, you'll say this is absolutely
textbook Al, I remember we went there for a week,
because actually I think I've told this story so many
times where I did my first ever stand-up gig I entered the talent competition at Pond.
Weren't you like sort of 13, 14 or something?
No, I was eight. Anyway.
Oh, Romy wants to do it. Romy, do you want to hang out with the other teenage boys?
No, I want to do my stand-up act please.
I want to do my stand-up act, please.
I want to do my Richard Pryor stuff.
If you can't watch me do stand-up, I want to do stand-up, please.
Are you sure you don't want to go drink and get drunk with all the other boys? But darling, darling, some of the kids are smoking behind there
and they've got a bottle of cider.
I think that's more your speed.
No, I want to share my gift of like
following observations I've had about things I've seen and that.
This new with a bunch of fucking seven-year-olds
all dressed in tutus.
Darling, you know you're up against, like,
three girls doing a ballet performance
and there's one boy playing the keyboard?
Yeah, yeah, I just want to see what I've got up against,
you know, how I compare against.
I think there might be an upper age limit, darling.
Well, is it possible to have a word?
You're like the opposite of Rodney Trotter in that episode.
Oh, Lord.
Anyway, full disclosure,
and I probably should have checked with my brother before I tell this,
both he and I cried as we pulled out of Pontins
at the end of that holiday.
Really?
Because we enjoyed ourselves so much.
That's a beautiful thing, though.
That's a beautiful thing.
When you didn't want to go home as a kid,
I think you're going to have that
with probably Alex and Charlie.
I think Theo's too cool for that.
Theo will not give a shiny shit.
I mean, he'll have a good time,
but he won't give a shit.
Yeah, but yeah.
Whereas Alex and Charlie,
it's quite upsetting
as a parent
to sort of
leave somewhere
and see your children
be so upset
to return home
with you
like distraught
yeah well
Grace is going
through a time
where she gets
annoyed and
cries about
anything that
she can't do
with Theo
I get the feeling
that Theo
if Theo's got
a real like
sort of
I could call Bradley Cooper vibe I know I've got the idea that he might if Theo's got a real, like, sort of, like a cool Bradley Cooper vibe, you know,
I've got the idea that he might tell you,
like, two weeks after, he'll just go,
he'll lean into you and whisper and go,
yeah, thanks for a cool holiday, man,
that was actually cool.
That's exactly the sort of thing he'd do.
And you're like me, you're anxious,
and you'll be going, I don't know if Theo's enjoyed himself.
Yeah.
But he also will, I'll report
back to you, on more than one occasion
tell me that I'm being muggy.
Does he know that phrase?
Yeah. You can't do that
thing that you wanted to do when you run up and hug
Spider-Man and Iron Man because it would just...
Sometimes, and I don't
consider myself to be a loud
person
but on a couple of occasions he's told me to keep
my voice down like when we've been at a restaurant
not in like a
he's like a gaslighting
boyfriend
I'm just trying to be myself
Theo
Dad
if you are going to have that voice,
do you mind sort of keeping it down a little bit?
Sometimes he'll catch me out getting animated
about something at the table.
And then he'll just look embarrassed and go,
Dad, Dad.
And then look around at the other tables.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Why are you getting so excited about it, dinner?
I don't think I am.
That's the thing.
By the way, just before,
that was so disgusting
what I just saw.
Because what happened was,
is you went,
what are you getting excited
about at dinner?
And then you fucking
prepared your face
to do the island push
and sort of screwed it up
and then sort of abandoned it
before you went.
It's so disgusting
what happened to your face there.
In my head head it's like
you all sit down as a family
and you're like, oh, they've got a
sweet corn chowder.
And then Theo's like, oh, mate, keep it down.
He's like a cool one at your family, isn't he?
Yeah, I would say so, yeah.
I'm slightly...
Do you think this is mad
if I go to the gym when I'm at Disney?
No, I think it's good.
I feel really, I've not been to a gym once this week.
Yeah, I'm in a similar situation.
And already I can feel the effect on my mental health.
Thankfully, I'm going away, so that'll hopefully take care of that.
But also, do you have the other thing where,
do you worry that this is like an innermost fear?
It's not at the forefront of my mind, but it has occurred to me in the past.
I do feel like my, you know, that kind of got to work, got to work mentality, you know, grind or whatever,
has infected me so badly that there's a small part of me that thinks the industry will decide while I'm on holiday to sort of shut me out.
And then when I come back from Disney,
I'll phone flow and I'll go,
so what's the next week?
She goes,
actually got some good news and bad news.
The good news is you've got a bit more time to yourself.
The bad news is that time is forever because,
uh,
they decided on the one,
the one week that you decided to,
to not be overstretching yourself and overexposing yourself on television,
they realise that actually entertainment's a lot better without you.
So thank you for allowing them to have that little break.
On a sincere note, I do actually completely empathise with that feeling.
I mean, I love the way you ask that question.
It's fucking, we started the podcast at 7.15, I think, until midnight last night from filming
from where I'd been there at 4.20.
And the night before, I'd fucking travelled the 300 miles to do a fucking work in progress.
Yeah.
Well, look, congratulations on having one of my quieter days.
In my schedule, Flo and I refer to that as a break.
No, I'm joking, I'm joking.
That sounds brutal, man.
You know what?
I will keep...
What I was thinking is just doing like a wolf an hour
when you're away.
I'm doing it.
What are you talking about?
That's what I mean, when you're away.
So you keep your feet in.
So, yeah.
Oh, right, yeah.
Yeah.
We're going to do a Disney app.
Oh, my God.
It'd be so sick if you could get a couple of characters in.
Yeah, you can... You have to queue up to even have your photo taken with them.
I don't think they're going to come and do the Wolf and Owl podcast.
Are you going to queue up and get a picture with them?
I'm not going to, no, but that's what happens if you want to get a picture taken.
I will not be queuing up.
You know, I'm going to give you a tip here, mate, and this is a big tip.
Do you know what I'd absolutely love?
What? A tip from someone who's never been. Yes, please. No this is a big tip. Do you know what I'd absolutely love? A tip from someone
who's never been. Yes, please.
Yes, please. You're like the opposite
of Martin Lewis. Martin Lewis goes, look, I've got
a fuck-all clue about money, but let me tell you what I think
you should do, just shooting from the hip. Switch
to Eon. Probably.
No, look, listen to me,
and I think this will go out of stead you will.
Lurk about, right, where all the
people are queuing up for the photos
right
just hang about
find the little hut
or wherever they're
getting the pictures done
or if it's out in the real world
just like lurk about
just watch right
so follow Mickey
is that what you're saying
no no no
and then at some point
he's going to have to have a break
or he's going to have to go
and just he's doing that
go quit lease
quit boys
and then sprint over to him
and he's walking off
and he's sort of
done his time
and goes sorry Matt
I know you're on your lunch break.
Here's like $5, can we get, you know,
keep that cash in hand, can we get a picture of you?
And you really think that's going to work?
Mate, I will guarantee that will work.
If that doesn't work, I will,
I'll buy you a new pair of trainers.
I guarantee that will work.
I don't know how long Disney World's been around,
I think 50 years, and you think you're the first person to, you don't think there's a system in place to stop that sort of thing
happening mate i of course there's gonna be a way mate like if you really want and if you're
worried about it when you get out there facetime me and just be like look this is what we're dealing
with i definitely will be able to come out with a plan for you i think that works with dean the
dinosaur at pontins i don't i don't think that works with Dean the Dinosaur at Pontins.
I don't think it works
with Mickey Mouse
at Disney World.
Can I just tell you,
Mickey isn't Mickey.
Mickey is a man or a woman
inside a Mickey costume
Yes, I know, I know.
This is not the same thing
when I have to tell you
that wrestling isn't real.
Okay?
I know that Mickey's
not a real person, okay?
Right.
So if you lurk at all,
you know what you could do?
Wait until sort of like you get a second, just whisper into their ear and go like, or you know what you could do? Wait till sort of like
you get a second,
just whisper into their ear
and go,
do you take the costume
home with you?
How can we meet
at your apartment?
I'll give you $20.
That's cool,
because I think Lisa said,
do you know what I'd really love
out of this trip?
A lifetime ban.
With something like that,
where you're just like,
so you haven't got,
because cute,
let me tell you by the way,
I haven't been to Disney, I've got friends who have, you're going to do a lot of queuing. Unless you've got a queue, so you haven't got, because Q, let me tell you by the way, I haven't been to Disney,
I've got friends who have,
you're going to do a lot of Q-ing
unless you've got a Q,
have you got a Q-pass thing?
Well,
I thought I was going to get it
until I talked about doing that thought park
and we got a very angry email.
Oh God,
yeah.
Oh yeah.
So,
this person's made me feel like a prick.
So you're not going to,
you're just going to Q.
I mean,
to be fair,
I think Q-ing that's hard.
You'll meet some really good friends,
friends for life that you'll like email and fucking Instagram and mean, to be fair, I think cueing that's hard. You'll meet some really good friends, friends for life,
that you'll email
and fucking Instagram
and Facebook and such.
Tom, you'll get this
when Grace is older.
The fear
of how your kids
are going to behave
in front of other families
when you cue for something
is so insane.
Really?
Like, Alex and Charlie,
I reckon they can be in a cue
for, I don't know,
rough estimate,
50 seconds before one of them is kicking the other one in the shins.
Initially starts off as banter.
Eventually, and they're just looking up and down the queue or looking at people in front of you, behind you.
There'll be occasional tut, shake of the head.
You know, the problem is, you know, obviously I won't get recognised at Disney World, but whenever I'm in a queue at Thought Park or Chessington,
I'll get added in social media about what an observation that was made
about my family and their behaviour.
It's very nerve-wracking.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
You know, oh, God, day ruined when Romesh encouraged his boys
to get their dicks out in the queue.
Like, you can't do anything.
You're just trying to have fun with your family.
Do you know what I mean?
Hey, get on.
Talking about social media, I've deactivated Twitter.
You what?
I've deactivated Twitter.
Go on, what happened?
What was the trigger?
Well, I think it's really toxic.
I don't know, you don't go on it now, do you?
Mm-mm.
It's just so toxic.
It's horrible.
Sorry, KD. Did you get a particular attack? No, no. it's just so toxic horrible sorry
did you get a particular
attack that
no no
it's not even
I don't really
I don't do much on Twitter
if I'm honest with you
I don't have much to do with it
I sort of
the only thing I ever do
is really look at
Fantasy League
now I'm actually regretting it
because I do look at
a lot of Fantasy League stuff
on there
but
last sort of
two three weeks
it feels that within our certain industry
and what we do and then sort of beyond,
it just feels so...
Like if it was a pub that you went to
and it was that toxic and that aggressive
and that angry all the time,
you wouldn't go in there anymore, would you?
You wouldn't go,
oh, I want to go down the fucking...
the goat.
Oh, well, you go down the goat.
Everyone's been really horrible to each other. There was a punch-up last night and it's really, really fucking goat. Oh, you're going down the goat? Everyone's been really horrible to each
other. There was a punch up last night and it's really, really fucking aggressive. Yeah, yeah,
but I was just fucking going to go down. I quite like it. I just thought on the way home last night,
I was sitting looking at it and number one, I thought I could be doing other stuff at this
point, like sleeping off. And I got into a bit of a rabbit hole and I thought, actually, I hate this
and I just deactivated it. I don't agree with having to pay for a blue tick because i think that that's gonna
open up a whole so can anybody pay to get a blue tick is that how it works yeah that's
how it works so you can you could get a fake one much ranger nathan paid for a blue tick
who the would want to do that but um there's some weirdos who do that i'll tell you what there
is though there's a fake rubbish ranger on facebook really and and like he's pretty like full-on i mean there's
one there was one that was like replying to every comment on my facebook saying you've won a
competition get in touch and dm me for the prize and then there's another one you know what i got
a message from uh a couple who said oh we've been chatting to Ron on Faceit on here.
He's so lovely. And I was like, I
straight away knew it was a red flag.
Unbelievable.
And they were like, and then about
two, three hours later, they messaged going,
I don't think it's the actual Ron, because it's
not coming from his page.
One of them's like approached women
and stuff like that, and like DM'd
them going, thank you so much for your support.
I really appreciate it.
I just wanted to connect with you on a one-to-one basis.
I mean, it's fucking dangerous, isn't it?
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying about Twitter now.
The reason I put Instagram or Facebook,
you've got a blue tick on there, right?
So it verifies that that's you.
And most people know now, oh, that's that person.
But on Twitter, someone could just go,
and you don't use it.
I'm actually almost now regretting my deactivation even more now.
Why?
Well,
because someone could just make a Tom Davidson account and pretend it's me.
But,
yeah,
but actually,
I feel better for deactivating it from a list.
Do you know what I respect about what you did?
And sorry,
I'm eating again.
Is that you just logged off.
You didn't do what I did.
You know what I did, don't you?
Yeah. I don't like it anymore, so I'm leaving.
Bye, Twitter.
That's what I did. Oh, I didn't say
any of that. No, no, no. I'm like, if you
Google my account, it's still even there now. It's deactivated.
You properly just got rid of it.
Scorched earth. Yeah.
I'm like, I don't need that. I'm like, genuinely,
I've looked at it. There's people I like on there, people I connect with now and't need that i'm like genuinely i've looked at there's people i like
and they're people i connect with now and again but i'm like yeah i just thought genuinely
i just thought it's just there's no like instagram there's positivities to it on facebook
although instagram's starting to get a bit it's starting to get a bit nasty i think occasionally
yeah but it's nowhere near what and twitter i'm like i don't like for
my minute like like i say it just feels aggressive yeah all the time somebody somebody um you know
romantic getaway the thing i did with katherine somebody found um like the the that came out what
three months ago something like that yeah somebody found the the picture that i initially posted yeah doesn't follow me just to
go with you two in it i definitely won't be watching and i just thought to myself like
you'd have had to have looked for that like i just wonder how much i'm trying to think of like
what the thought process is to to get to that point where you go yeah i don't know maybe you
saw an advert for it you saw it up on the Skyplan and you went,
I fucking hate those two.
And then,
and then you saw,
actually,
do you know what,
let me tell them,
let me tell them.
And then like,
you just search for it and then you go,
this is going to feel really,
I wonder if like,
I wonder if you feel like
you get a dopamine hit
from doing that,
from like going,
they're probably going to say,
which I did.
So if that person,
I'm in a doubt
they'll listen to the podcast
if they hate me that much.
But it's also,
it's within the power I'm talking about that it's Twitter in a doubt they'll listen to the podcast if they hate me that much but it's also it's within the poem
I'm talking about
that it's Twitter
and everyone's aggressive
and everyone's fucking shouting
and everyone wants to be heard
the best way of being heard
is going out
and saying something
to someone's face
or throwing something
at someone
or pushing someone
the worst habit I have
is almost exclusively
replying to people
who are horrible
it's such a stupid thing
to do and then i go why do they do it and then you go why do you think they do it you know like what
the other day i you know that i think we talked about the photo last time with the my beard and
the hoodie and the sunglasses and all that i i put kids saying kids think i'm having a midlife crisis
because that's what they said to me right right? Yeah. And somebody put, I doubt anybody actually cares.
And then like did the,
you know, the hands up in the air emoji.
Yeah, which is the prick of all the emojis.
I feel sorry for that.
I think the other one,
the thinking face is a prick,
but that one is one of the biggest pricks.
No, I think thinking face
you could use in a quite positive way.
The shrugging shoulders one,
I'm like,
I feel sorry for him.
Like when you put your phone down
and all the emojis are just chit-chatting
and having a cigarette,
he's not getting it.
No one's chatting to him.
He's like fucking ostracised for the rest of the group.
Yeah, you don't get it.
We understand.
Do you think I want it to be like this?
Yeah.
But anyway, I replied to that guy.
Obviously, loads of people said nice things.
Not nice things, whatever, just commenting on the photo.
Some attempted banter, as is always the case on comedians' Instagrams.
But I just replied, it's Sunday, mate, chill out.
Yeah.
And he said, he replied with something like so nice that I couldn't believe it was, like, not so nice, but it was just like, yeah, I know what you mean, heading out for a Sunday.
You know, like real sort of like interacting sort of chat, you know, like.
And I just thought that was so, that's so weird that that is.
But this is what I'm saying.
That is how you want it.
Like, look, it's a proper 180.
Do you know what I mean?
But these people, when you're doing that, you're not necessarily doing it because you dislike that person. I generally think on Instagram sometimes it's just this sort of put your head above the power pit and be noticed.
I do think on Twitter that it's just, yeah, it's just an aggressive place to be and i'm like you know what
i just look at it i don't need i don't why would i have what like yeah why have i been hanging on
to this yeah can i ask you a question tom yeah well can i tell you something yeah uh so for the
last uh 30 seconds of you talking you've
been attempting to tie a knot in the strings on your hoodie right yeah and the other day i was
wearing a hoodie with strings on it like that and i tried to do it tight into i went to tight
into a knot and i've never done it before and i just had a vague recollection of somebody
that i thought was stylish doing that
and as you've done it I've realized that was you well thank you wow yeah I was getting quite tight
that's like that is really positive for you I'd say arguably negative for me no it's positive it's
you know what it is well that is our friendship and like I like the fact that even if I'm not
facially integrated with you,
or we're not doing this.
Facially integrated with me?
It's not face-to-face or we're not doing a
Zoom. Travolta and Nicolas Cage, is that what you're talking about?
Oh my God, I'd love to remake that movie
with you. Oh my God, we should remake that movie.
Why is his body still
white?
It's a very strange
thing
this
I don't know
maybe we could
get rid of it
but
me and Rob
are in a very
peculiar place
of
oh my god
no no
but we have
we're in a peculiar
place
we've been asked
if we want to do
a film together
right
and we have to
write a script
why are you being
so open
anyway
go on
but we have no
idea what to do with it.
It's the first time we've both been...
So maybe we'll run a poll.
This is so desperate.
This is so desperate.
I don't know whether JT should get rid of this bit.
They're like, hey, guys, we're wondering,
if we threw a party, who would come?
Comment below.
Yeah, JT, get rid of this bit.
No, no, no, no, no.
I think we should keep it here.
You prick.
Yeah, so have a think.
Email your best ideas in.
And then, yeah, you'll get a credit on the movie.
I think they did a similar thing for The Godfather, you know.
Did they?
Yeah, like, just, I think it was like a radio thing,
and they said... I can't believe
that I've fucking
fallen for that
imagine that meeting
with Al Pacino
Marlon Brand
how did you come up
with this idea
oh we did like a
radio announcement
and sort of
we just said
what would you like
to see some
mafia guys doing
yeah this guy
Wally Egberg
from Kansas
came up with the idea
of doing it about
a don
do you know
I always think with that, look,
Marlon Brando in The Godfather is one of the most defining
like fucking characters ever portrayed in a film, right?
But it's a big fucking move, isn't it?
What do you mean?
Well, look, going back, I watched this recently in The Godfather.
I went back and watched it.
It's one of my favourite films.
I've not watched it for ages, but go on.
But when you sit and watch it,
everyone else in it is playing it very, you know,
there's a realness to it.
Like at the rehearsal, there must have been a moment,
and look, this is coming from someone who has done this,
but there must have been a moment when he did that voice,
which, you know,
you come to me on the day of my daughter's wedding,
and you want...
And it's that sort of...
That's a big character voice.
You know what I mean?
And everyone else is playing it very sort of like,
this is...
Yeah, but I think the same thing
about you in The Curse.
Yeah, I know,
but The Curse is a comedy.
It's not a fucking,
you know,
we don't,
we don't respect everyone.
I know, but it's still like,
it's still a decision
for you to do that voice.
So like,
when you,
I'm asking as like,
I mean,
I think it's interesting.
When did you decide
to do that voice
how did you reveal
that you're going to do that voice
and were you nervous
at all about making that decision
because I'm saying this
as somebody that respects that
because
it's a risk
do you know what I mean
it's wicked by the way
you know what I think of it
it's fucking great
and I think you
what you do in that show
is amazing
and I think the show is brilliant
it's one of the things
that I've always
like it's such a it sounds like I think it's a mistake i think it's a really good
it's a brave it's a brave thing to do i mean to go i'm going to think about i'm going to think
about really pushing this guy away from what i am i mean tonally and all that so go on tell me
uh i think firstly when i was doing g Gary it was always like you're just playing
yourself
and I'd obviously
done Sleep
and Action Team
and stuff
and bits I'd done
before
it'd always been
more characterisations
and I'd sort of
I liked to
build the character
and yeah
number two
I've had that voice
and I've used that
in stand up
and that voice
was someone that
I knew
back in the day
and like I knew
a bloke who spoke
a bit like
that and I've always there's always been like how would you get into a project and number three the
nerves of doing it and the discussion about it when I first did that voice there was a real moment
I'd shout Rupert Magendie actually because Rupert was producing that and James the front officer
James knew the voice but there was a moment where people were like yeah will you
will people buy into it and it was like well you've got to take that risk and I think they
will and I think you know the character is it is the yeah you build the character for the yeah for
that voice up and then the sort of character yeah the little characteristics sort of come along with
it but um but yeah I was very nervous and yeah again you know you've got a lot of people
messaging
saying oh yeah
I can't understand
what you're saying sometimes
and we think
well that's the reality
of life isn't it
like not everyone
the thing that frustrates me
sometimes when I watch shows
is that fucking
is it RP
I've not
yeah
that sort of like
way of watching something
and everyone
you know
actually if you watch like
Narcos or you watch Narcos
or you watch stuff and people have these
weird
vocal afflictions and whatever,
I think we're in the world that we're
portraying, which is a very
working class world.
Your dialect is going to be sometimes a little bit
muffled and a little bit...
And I think that's...
But my point with Brando is not that I'm not
knocking that. I'm like, but that's, but my point with Brando is not like, I'm not knocking that.
I'm like,
but that's like,
you're in a room
with James Caan,
you know,
Coppola's directing
and to go in
with some tissue
in your mouth
and essentially
this is how I'm playing
the character.
Like,
it's one of the greatest
portrayals ever
of any character
but to put on that voice
which now has become,
if you were on stage
and you were going to do
an impression
of a mafia don
you would go for
you'd go for
that don Corleone
but no one had ever done that
you know
you'd go back
and look at the
ways that those guys
have been portrayed
before
you know
Cagney and whatever
have been portraying
mobsters and gangsters
it was
I'm a little bit like this
and all of a sudden
you've got a guy
who's speaking
familiar
and I'm making a lot for me what are you saying and all of a sudden you've got a guy who's speaking from speaking familiar and i mean you want from me what are you saying and all of a sudden i thought is a sort of like
yeah that's that's a big move yeah i mean i would say thank you for that for two reasons one it
showed a level of insight is very interesting and two because we've pushed the conversation
so far along in that direction it means we have to keep the stuff you said about the filming.
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I've just wanted to email it as I've been listening to the podcast since the very beginning.
Genuinely a huge fan of you both.
I find the podcast easy to relate to
having been through some issues
brought up on your show.
This podcast is not only just entertaining,
but in some ways,
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going through situations
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Thank you very much for that lovely opening para.
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that I've stopped the car driving to work
on occasions due to crying with laughter.
On one occasion, a sweet, sweet soul in the form of an elderly lady even tapped on my car window see if i was okay she thought i was having some sort of meltdown
last night my wife and i watching celebrity hunted with ed gamble and james acaster not
heard of those two this guy's thinking about talking about how i pick it would be to see
the wolf and owl on there would you consider doing this i think i know the answer i know
you both work harder than mo farah's trainers however this would be so good as it would be to see the wolf and owl on there would you consider doing this i think i know the answer i know your book you both work harder than mo farah's trainers however this would be so good
as it only be the following you both have and the chemistry between you both would make this great
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How does Celebrity Hunted work, Tom?
I don't know.
Can I just say one?
I'm going to say Hunted is one of my favourite shows,
the actual Hunted.
I think the Celebrity one I enjoy.
But I just, you know what?
I think it's, because of the nature of it, I just don't think it.
I prefer to do the real Hunted,
where it's taken a bit more seriously.
It feels like it's a bit more seriously.
It feels like it's a bit more messing around.
So what happens though?
Do you go into hiding or something?
Yeah.
I think it's like a month in the real one.
It's two weeks or a week or two in the celebrity one.
The celebrity one's a bit more... And then who's looking for you?
The hunters.
It's really a fucking great show.
You know what?
But don't you
just go find a
shed somewhere?
No, but you've
got to keep on
the move.
There's a lot
of different,
you know.
And I know
that I spoke
to James and
I spoke to Ed
separately about
this and they
had an amazing
time and I
think it could
be really,
really funny.
Should we do
it then?
If I was going
to do anything
for me and you,
which I think
would generally
be my favourite
thing, would
be Race Across the World. That's what I want to listen for me and you, which I think would generally be my favourite thing, would be race across the world.
That's what I'd do, yeah.
That's a great idea.
Why don't you and me do Gumball Rally?
Oh, my God, and film it.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, but you'd have to do all the driving.
Yeah, fine.
That'd be funny.
I'll do all the driving.
You up for it?
Yeah, I'd love to do Gumball Rally.
Let's do it.
When's the next one?
I think it's in a couple of months right
Tom and I want to do gumball rally please universe make it happen there you
go reach out and we'll film it oh my god we have to start it will get some get
some YouTube footage hold on a week are we gonna like self fund this are we
gonna like film this ourselves yeah we have to yeah yeah okay all right there
you go you get those body cam so What's his name? The train guy.
That's a great idea.
Yeah, Francis.
Francis Bourgeois.
Yeah.
He's now become like, he's like a model now.
He's like the coolest.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Do you know what?
He, by the way, is someone that me and you,
he follows me and you,
and I think he's very sweet, very open,
and sent me a lovely message about the fact that when he was starting out,
we were two people who really sort of did a lot of talking about him.
He's now like, he's basically King Arthur to me and you,
being a tragic pair of Merlins.
He's surpassed us now.
He's got so big and cool now,
I regret bigging him up in the first place, to be honest with you.
He was a part of, you know when Gucci and Adidas linked
and did that amazing drop?
He was a part of you know when Gucci and Adidas linked I know did that amazing drop he was a part
of that drop
I know
credit to him
take the moment
and fucking smash it
son
have you seen
have you seen
his old
partner in crime
who's old
partner in crime
Francis is
he's got a
partner in crime
he had a guy
there was two of
them
there's a guy
he's got as well
called Ryan
who does
this thing
called eating
with Ryan
and he used to also
look at trains and so france has gone off to do all this amazing stuff it's quite ryan is sort of
still trying to sort of do yeah he'll film every meal that he has uh like with one of those cameras
which isn't the same as like that isn't got the joyousness of like watching someone eating uh
fish and chips and some baked beans isn't quite the same as watching the joyousness of watching someone eating fish and chips and some baked beans
isn't quite the same as watching the joyous look of someone
who's seen a train come through and they love trains.
But also,
Ryan's a bit like
the Robbie Williams of their
relationship. He's gone out and partied
and he's kicking the arse out a lot. He's quite a lot
of the time out at nightclubs and stuff.
Meeting with Ryan.
Yeah.
So, are you saying it's good?
I don't think it's as good.
I think there's still something quite sweet and joyous
to him. I think it's a sort of...
I think Francis was...
I think he's slightly
trying to copy Francis.
I imagine it's difficult for him seeing his
partner go off and do massive things, but
what a treat for him to know that we've mentioned him on the podcast
and put the boot in him again.
No, I quite enjoy it.
It's quite sweet about the kid.
Yeah, no, it's really good.
Big praise from you there.
Thank you.
Maybe we should clip this up and send it to him.
Okay.
This is from the Dowie Labrador.
Good afternoon, you two sweet fecking souls, yeah?
Wow.
Hope all is good with you both.
I know.
Hope all is good with you both.
Long time listener.
Big comedy fan and a huge male mental health advocacy fan.
Big up yourself.
Thank you both for all your work making us laugh,
making us feel better and helping us to accept when it's okay to feel sad.
I'm currently sat by a roadside in Romboda,ri lanka came out here on holiday one of the most spontaneous decisions
ever made in my life coming along with my fiance and one of her friends this place is incredible
from feeding and washing elephants to eating local cuisine two questions for you both one
mainly for rom one for tom and rom first question any size dishes in sri lanka you'd recommend rom
uh next one what's the most spontaneous dish you've ever made?
And do you regret it?
Love the results that came from it. No need for anonymity.
My name's Ben, but you can call me the Doughy Labrador.
Much love to you both.
Kindest regards, Ben, the Doughy Labrador.
I really like Ben.
I do too.
There's something about him, isn't there?
He's got a vibe about him.
Yeah.
I thought if you were ever in Ben's company,
you'd feel like it was a blanket put around your shoulders.
Yes. Yeah, I'm sure you would. Very Ben's company you'd feel like it was a blanket put around your shoulders yes yeah I'm sure you would very calming relaxing
sort of decent
actually yeah shout out to Ben
I've so much really got a sort of picture
of Ben's face
if I close my eyes
can I ask you an honest question I believe whatever you say
when you start doing all this stuff
is it because you genuinely believe it
or are you trying to buy time to think about what your response is going to be to the end no no i'll
believe some of it i'm sort of 50 50 or both really i mean to be fair the the pressures on
you you've got two questions no both no the second question well look the first question the first
it'll see your first question any sites in chelangki or dishes i'd recommend i would
strongly recommend you get yourself some cotta rototti, which is basically like chopped up, like, roti bread with, like, meat and egg and stuff like that.
It's a nice little street food dish, so I thoroughly recommend that.
And then with regards to sights, I mean, it's well worth climbing Sigiriya, I guess,
and having a look up there.
I did it for Asian Provocateur.
Well worth a check out.
Tom, what's the most spontaneous decision you ever made?
And do you love the results that came from it?
Uh, pretty much I'm saying I did.
So when I was 21, we went to Las Vegas.
I went to Las Vegas with a group of mates and we ended up with for like three weeks.
I mean, I've said that, yeah, that's the first one we've been to America and we
ended up, I ended up basically in a
nightclub and the guys sort of asked me what i did asked if i was a boxer and i replied yes
and he ended up basically bankrolling me to stay out there for like three weeks training in his gym
uh because i i'd sort of because this is before the internet right so he can't sort of google me
so i ended up spending three weeks out in oswego with me and a mate training with him uh and that so that part
was amazing i was in vegas for three weeks partying having a great time uh the bit wasn't
amazing is when eventually he asked me if i told me that i was gonna have to fight someone uh in
a boxing match and the guy that he wanted me to fight was absolutely fucking terrifying. How did that happen by surprise?
What?
The fight bit?
Yeah.
Well, I thought it was likely camp
that he was just putting me through,
so I was sort of going to go back being better.
I didn't realise it yet.
And he was actually a bit like Don Corleone.
He had a vibe to him.
He was quite terrifying.
So the spontaneity of it was,
they said,
oh, do you want to stay out here and train?
I had nothing to go back home for.
I was laboring at the time.
So I thought, oh, fuck it, this will be good.
My power's the same.
And we ended up, yeah, having an amazing time up until that moment.
How did the fight go?
I didn't do the fight.
I phoned my mum and asked if she could wire some money up.
And me and my friend got flights back in the middle of the night.
We flew back to England.
We were absolutely fucked.
I was...
My pal was like,
we could live out here forever.
All you've got to do is get in a ring with this guy.
And I was like, but I can't fight.
And he's going to fucking absolutely destroy me.
He went, just throw the jab and run a bit.
I was like, that looks like I'm teasing him though,
doesn't it?
Yeah.
It looks like I'm winding him up.
He's just like going to fucking rampage me.
And yeah, my ass went
completely there's times i think i could have what if it had all gone right and if then but then
whenever i sort of hit pads i realized i haven't got that i've got the thing yeah so that was
probably the most spontaneous thing that i've i've ever done uh i don't think i've ever done anything
spontaneous really um you should make your
interesting that you should do so as i've thought about this it's made me feel incredibly boring but
i don't think i have you should i mean i've done spontaneous things for like suddenly you go out
for a night i mean i don't want to tell a story about uh one day i was going to stay in and then
ended up going out i mean that's not what that's not what ben's looking for he's in he ups and left
and went to sri lanka for a for a bit on the spur of the moment.
I wish I had a story about, oh, do you know what?
We went down the pub down the road from my house, ended up in
Barcelona. I don't have any
stories like that.
I've done that when you've ended up in Liverpool or
Glasgow and you've gone for a pint down the local
and just decided, fuck it, it's boring,
let's just all jump in.
Like a jump on a train or something
and convince someone to drive.
Yeah.
And then what happens?
You get like a four-hour train
to Glasgow
and you go,
I'm fucking knackered.
She's trying to find a hotel.
Wrap this up.
You want to look at
like first train back
in the morning.
Yeah.
These are the days
before phones.
Those are the great days.
I miss those days sometimes.
Yeah,
not in the toilet,
you don't.
You're taking a paper so clumsily into the toilet, aren't you?
Oh, yeah.
You know, like people having a stack of magazines by the toilet.
Cut the GQs.
I remember when I was at uni, we had FHM by the toilet.
And the girls that we're living with called a house
meeting and said they no longer wanted those publications in the toilet yeah
it's quite a hot it's quite a hot debate in the house.
I like to read about this kind of thing when I'm going for a plop.
Right Tom, I've got to get a plane.
So let's wrap this thing up.
Could you give us some words of wisdom, please?
Mighty Tom.
Hey, how you doing?
What's going on?
You reached out to a friend
that you haven't seen for a while recently?
Listen, I'm just coming to terms
with someone I love and adore
who's not going to be on the same continent,
let alone the same country as me,
for a small time.
And I feel kind of sad about that, kind of blue.
But you know what?
Every time I think about him, I'll probably text him and say,
I hope you're enjoying your time.
I hope you're having a great time and things are good.
That's the thing about life.
Sometimes it's easy just to think,
oh, should I reach out to Elliot or Sebastian or Claire or Ruth?
And you think, oh, they probably don't care about what I think
or they don't care about me.
And they're just sitting there somewhere else.
Maybe they're in Disneyland or Marbella
or some sunny climb somewhere.
And they're thinking about you and wondering what you're doing.
The truth of the matter is, sometimes in life,
it's good to reach out and say, yo, how you doing?
I think they're my favourite texts when my phone pings and it's a voice from the past coming into the present saying
hey i'm here for you dude so be that person be that text be that sound let someone know that
you care because you know what that's what makes world go round, not energy and the sun and the moon.
It's knowing that we're all there for one another.
Be cool, friends, and be yourself.
Really, really nice, Tom.
And I don't know who you were talking about in that bit,
but can I just say what a lucky, lucky person they are
to have someone like you looking out for them.
No question.
Guys, song for this week
is by an artist
I love called
Anderson Paak.
I can't believe
you didn't do
Leaving on a Jet Plane.
No.
My bags are packed
and ready to go.
Okay, let's do that.
Who's that by?
I'm standing here
outside the door.
Who is it?
I hate to wake you up
to say goodbye.
Okay, JT,
can you
play Leaving on a Jet Plane? you play Leaving on a Jet Plane?
Is it Leaving on a Jet Plane?
Don't know when I'll be back again.
Well, ten days, but...
Okay.
See you in a bit.
Bye.
Bye-bye.
I hate to go.
I'm leaving on a jet plane
Don't know when I'll be back again
Oh babe, I hate to go
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