Wolf and Owl - S2 Ep 41: Dental Care & Disney World

Episode Date: April 5, 2023

We’re talking… early morning starts, minty fresh breath, burping actors, a trip to Disney World, Marvel Rom vs Star Wars Rom, being born as a 43-year-old, Pontins talent contests, quitting Twitter... and coming up with character voices. Plus, a couple of email questions answered about being on celebrity shows and our best (or worst) spontaneous decisions. For questions or comments please email us at wolfowlpod@gmail.com - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List- https://wolfandowlpod.com/ A Shiny Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: HELLO@KEEPITLIGHTMEDIA.COM Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:29 Dressed up as a bird And a dog Sorry I'm finishing The sausage sandwich And I've still got more to go So get ready for that Wolf and Owl Up in your grill phase
Starting point is 00:01:39 Yo what up Me Romesh Ranganathan He Tom Davis 7.22 Saturday morning. What are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:01:46 Wolf and Owl up in your face. Yes, yes, yes. Hello, Tom. Hello, mate. How are you feeling? Quite tired. I don't know how this is going to go. I'd say level-wise, I'm exhausted.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Yeah. Well, you've been doing big things. We've had a very different week, you and I. How freely are you able to talk about what you're doing? I don't think I can talk about the project, but my days... We can't say filming, aren't we? We're allowed to say filming, aren't we? We haven't been filming yet, have we?
Starting point is 00:02:15 Are we getting up every day at 4.20 or 4 o'clock? Are we getting a car at 4.20 to then drive to London and get home? You get up at 4 o'clock for a 4.20 car? Yes, you've got to have a shower, brush your teeth, quick coffee. Yeah, sure. I'd be getting up at 3.20. Really?
Starting point is 00:02:30 Yeah. If I have less than an hour before pick-up, I get anxious. What do you do in that hour? Sort of normally I get up, I look in the mirror for five minutes and sort of list out what my targets are for that day. Uh, then do a little bit of a stretch, then maybe some dry toast, then maybe look back in the mirror
Starting point is 00:02:53 for another few minutes, write down a second list about how I think I've gotten with the first list since this, I made that list, um, then have a shower, then work out, then have another shower. Uh, then finally get dressed. And then just as I'm sitting sort of in my hallway waiting for the car, I'll make a third list reflecting on how I think I did on the previous two. That's sort of normally how I do it, yeah. You're like a Wahlberg. Yeah, you just have to do it.
Starting point is 00:03:20 I mean, like it's these little things that really make the difference. If you want to hustle and, you know, really push it to the max, that's what you've got to do, man mean like it's these little things that really make the difference if you want to hustle and you know really push it to the max that's what you've got to do man you know well i i didn't realize that every hour in the day is so sacred oh it's just every minute is just another opportunity you know and if your eyes are open and your heart is beating then you can you're looking to really sort of speculate to accumulate. Yeah, 100%. And my mantra is every single, as soon as your eyes are open, that is when you start being productive. Do you know what I mean? That is, you know, you have to.
Starting point is 00:03:59 You have to. I'll get up sometimes 20, sometimes 10 minutes before the car gets there, rush into the shower, brush my teeth, maybe, whiz down, throw some clothes on, usually an outfit that, you know, I then question the whole of the accuracy, question why I've put on such a stupid ridiculous outfit, does it match, even though
Starting point is 00:04:18 I'm going to be in costume all day, and then sit in the car, try and sleep for like the two hours I've been in the car for. But I can't sleep until I'm stressed out in the shower. and sleep for like the two hours i've been in the car for um but i've got sleep so obviously my morning routine was a joke but i mean i still do you really get up an hour before though i do yeah but but yours was not a joke but then you said brush your teeth maybe um yeah yeah sometimes i brush my teeth when I get to set. So you'll be in the three-way brushing your teeth? Is that okay? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Well, no, sometimes if I get there, do you know one thing I can't stand? Yeah. Is minty breath and having breakfast. Well, we know you can't stand minty breath. I had to provide you with a toothbrush and toothpaste midway through your shoot the other day. Do you know what really fucking gets my goat?
Starting point is 00:05:06 Fresh breath. Horrible. What I really enjoy is musty, dank breath. Yeah, the sort of musty, dank breath that makes it difficult for your co-star to deal with. That's what I like. Some people talk about chemistry. I like the person I'm acting opposite
Starting point is 00:05:23 to recoil every time I deliver a line that's more than two or three words. Firstly, I like my breath to smell like a damp dog that's been out for like a four-mile hike. Can I tell you, that is one of the goals that you hit most consistently. That's your Wahlberg moment. Say whatever you want about Tom Davis.
Starting point is 00:05:44 His breath is always shit. And he never lets you down on that it's always damp it's always fussy you always get a feeling you could comb his teeth rather than brush them the reason i ask you is i find public toothbrushing uh tricky really you know sometimes when you go to the airport and you see guys doing it in the bathroom. First of all, I don't know why, but there's something about brushing your teeth near a urinal that I find appalling. You brush your teeth near a toilet every day?
Starting point is 00:06:14 I know I do. That's what I mean. I'm not saying it makes any logical sense, but in my head, I just find it a bit funny. I think it's like the multiple nature of it. Do you know what I mean? Lots of urinals, lots of toilets. Also, can I say,
Starting point is 00:06:27 I completely understand why you brush your teeth in a toilet lab because you've had your breakfast, you're sitting on a... Look, let me just quickly clear up something. I'm a big tooth brusher. I like to brush my teeth. I just think I like to do it in a state...
Starting point is 00:06:40 I like to have my breakfast before I brush my teeth. Well, that's disgusting. Do you brush your teeth before breakfast yes that's insane why is it insane because then you've got mint do you re-brush them after breakfast yeah sometimes well then where do you re-brush them why do i re-brush them no where where oh well i i normally have my breakfast at home no but if you're on set because I know you have a lovely
Starting point is 00:07:06 if I'm on set I won't if I'm on set I won't rebrush so basically like that's like getting your car washed and then driving
Starting point is 00:07:11 through a load of shitty fields yeah that is true yeah yeah but then I would say I would say that brushing your teeth
Starting point is 00:07:19 after breakfast is like putting your car in a load of shit overnight and then going out first thing in the morning and licking that shit and swallowing it.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Do you know, I work with an actor, I might say his name and JT can beep it out. Yeah, sure. So I worked with... Oh my God. And he,
Starting point is 00:07:45 all joking aside, when you do a scene with him, he will do, like, a massive... Like, he basically... Massive lunch. Massive lunch. And it becomes fucking all dizzy. He'll do, like, a massive burp
Starting point is 00:07:59 and then blow it in your face and then start the dialogue. Just as bass is... No, he won't. I swear, mate. He's quite famous for it within the industry. What are you talking about? He'll eat really, really, really, like,
Starting point is 00:08:11 sort of, like, quite funky food. So it smells quite a lot. He was obsessed, obsessed when I was on there, with, like, these M&S fajita wraps that they do. They're quite, sort of, like, they've got a pen to them. And he'd just do this
Starting point is 00:08:25 he'd just like you he'd do a really like it like inhale do this real big burp and then breathe out and then action and then he'd start a dialogue did you ever find out why that was well i think the main reason was he's an absolute prick. Right. I wondered if there's some sort of methodology beyond that. That would be an awful method that if you've got to a place in your life where the only way that you could actually get a scene out is burping in your co-star's face.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Yeah, I don't know. I was quite lucky because he's about, what, like five foot three? Yeah. Five foot four. I'm like... And without naming him, he was...
Starting point is 00:09:04 He played... And he was he played and he was also yeah can you blip those out as well please yeah and then we can reinstall those
Starting point is 00:09:16 those beats once Operation Uchis does its work yeah once it's been found out here's a weird thing I don't breath on set. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Not in any sort of way. Like, that's why I get the guys at the airport doing the breath thing. What do you mean? Because I think they've had breakfast,
Starting point is 00:09:32 they've had a coffee, they've got like a three or four, yeah, they've got a three or four hour flight and they want to, they don't want to sit next to someone with bad breath. No,
Starting point is 00:09:39 I get that. Yeah, I get it. I'm not, and I'm not saying I wouldn't ever do it, but I wouldn't ever do it. Yeah, but also, look,
Starting point is 00:09:46 you're sitting in a private lounge for a start, right? You're a private lounge. No, I know you're a private lounge flexer. I've seen pictures of you posting when you're flying and it's just you like, PLing it before I hit the fucking runway with a picture of your Jordans all stretched out in front of you. You love projecting, don't you?
Starting point is 00:10:07 So many things that you absolutely fucking dig me out for are exactly the things that you do. Picture of Alex getting some free croissants. Little man getting his brunch. Said to him him fill your boots we're not paying I don't like the private lounge
Starting point is 00:10:32 I'm going to be honest go on tell me why I don't know I find it quite sterile I quite like the hustle and bustle of the airport I quite like I think like you know
Starting point is 00:10:41 I quite like the feeling of being in the airport and it being too I remember the flight we got and you got out oh yeah you really felt like you were enjoying I quite like the feeling of being in the airport. Remember the flight we got? Yeah, you really felt like you were enjoying the hustle and bustle of that, I remember. Absolutely on top of the world. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Jesus. You know what? I envy Catherine that she gets to see that side of you every day. Every time you two go on holiday, I get to see that hustle and bustle Tom Davis that I saw when we flew to Ireland that day. What a treat. Yeah, I remember. Do you know what?
Starting point is 00:11:09 I remember walking through the terminal thinking, this guy's buzzing his tits off. He's just high on life here. No, that was quite a stressful flight, wasn't it? Well, you know, as stressful as a 45-minute flight can be, yeah. It was because there was no good places to eat, I think. That was what it was. Yeah. We had to have that rope what it was. Yeah. We had to have that
Starting point is 00:11:26 ropey old breakfast. Yeah, and I remember as he chowed down on a breakfast he absolutely hated. He said, this is what it's all about. Hustle and bustle.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Wandering around, struggling to get a table. Shit food. Oh, they forgot my tofu. Oh man, the last time I flew out
Starting point is 00:11:42 in relation to kids we went to, I think it's Giraffe. I think I've told you about this. They had this thing called Oggs, which is a vegan egg equivalent. Mate, it ruined my flight, man. Everything else was delicious. So we should clear up.
Starting point is 00:11:56 You're flying today, aren't you? You're out today. You're flying today. Yes. Yeah. Are you allowed to say where you're going? Are you going to, or is this sort of? I'm not allowed to say where I'm going. I'm going to... Or is this sort of... I'm not allowed to say where I'm going.
Starting point is 00:12:05 I'm going to Disney World. Is it Disneyland or Disney World? I don't know. I've not been to either. Well, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I mean, you've not been to Morocco, but you know what it's called, don't you?
Starting point is 00:12:16 Yeah, it'd be weird. It wouldn't be weird. Listen, I know that you get nervous about being accused of being a nonce, but I think knowing the difference between Disneyland and Disney World is all right. Well, I think also... It between Disneyland and Disney World is alright. It's not the same as hanging around
Starting point is 00:12:26 a primary school in New York. Also it would help my nonce allegations if I knew that much about Disney when I was 15 months
Starting point is 00:12:33 old and I'd clearly been to both a couple of times. Yeah, wandering around Disney with a toffee apple. Sorry mate, are
Starting point is 00:12:41 you looking for your kids? Nah, I'm just here on my own mate. Looking for some kids? No, I'm just here on my own, mate. Looking for some kids? Why did I flip into my impression when I did the nonce?
Starting point is 00:12:52 I think it's Disney. I think Disney World is the... I think Disneyland is in LA. Yeah. You'll be out there for all the whole Trump stuff then, won't you? What, with Stormy Daniels yeah
Starting point is 00:13:05 yeah it's going to be difficult for us to get time to visit the Epcot because I'm obviously going to have the kids around the TV
Starting point is 00:13:10 watching how exactly that unfolds you can't watch it over here no no no we'll say hello to Mickey and Goofy
Starting point is 00:13:19 later let's just see if Donald gets his come up I've got some good news and some bad news we are going to be front row in America for the Stormy Daniels controversy. What are you looking forward to most about being out there?
Starting point is 00:13:36 As you know, and as you've criticised before, I'm a mind man. No, I've got to criticise. I think it's cute. Yeah, which is the same as criticising, really. I like your little Marvel stuff, your fantastical adventures of the Spider-Men or whatever it is you enjoy.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Can you give me this? Because if there's one video I just want so much, it's like when you get to Marvel Land or the Marvelverse, whatever they call it, it's just the thought of you basically sort of get through the gates and you just see Spider-Man or Iron Man or I don't know one of the fucking other Captain America
Starting point is 00:14:08 and you're like oh fucking hell and then you just sprint off like Lisa's did with the kids and you just hug one of them and you're like I've been a fan of yours since I was seven and then like sort of like do the spider web thing
Starting point is 00:14:24 and so all of that what you just described when you said stuff like spider man whatever the fuck these guys are and you go on
Starting point is 00:14:31 all of that is you saying it's cute is it that's not you being disparaging and horrific about it no it's cute
Starting point is 00:14:39 it's cute you just I just I want to see the picture and please post it on Instagram of you with your arms around.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Because actually, Marvel ROM's going to be my favourite ROM, I think. I think Star Wars ROM might come close, to be honest with you. Is Star Wars there as well?
Starting point is 00:14:55 Yeah. Of course, isn't it? Oh, my God. This isn't for the kids, is it? I mean, it is for the kids.
Starting point is 00:15:00 It's not for the kids. Your two favourite things are in that place and also that you can get fucking sick trainers out there. Yeah. The only thing that would make it better is if they had a little wolf world. That would be... That would be the icing on the cake.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Imagine if we tried to open a fucking theme park. Yeah. And we decided to sort of really double down and call it Party Rom Island. Where are the kids? Our kids are just at the Picardy Roms bar. Where's your other half? Oh, she's at the burrito bar having something absolutely dreadful. Welcome to the Wolf and Owl World.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Have a good day. Come get your arse pebbles. Come get your arse pebbles. Two for one and arse pebbles. Essentially, you're Mickey and I'm Goofy, right? What does that mean? You're like the sort of leader, the cool sort of, you know, you're out the front doing this
Starting point is 00:15:54 and I'm sort of like your able-bodied, I mean, I am Goofy, whatever happens. Hmm. Yeah. Rob and I, sorry, I'm eating while I'm doing this. Rob and I did Disney on Ice. Yeah. Rob and I, sorry, I'm eating while I'm doing this. Rob and I did Disney on Ice. Yeah. And they brought out Mickey and Minnie on ice skates
Starting point is 00:16:10 to look at our ice skating. And I got nervous. Really? Yeah, you sort of feel like this is Mickey Mouse. I mean, it's obviously a person in a, spoiler, it's a person in a suit. Yeah, obviously, yeah. There's still something about that sort of racism after they go out the suit about
Starting point is 00:16:27 like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa you've got no you've got no idea how this works have you no you're you are not allowed to see that man well they don't so what are they like special agents you're never even allowed to see them with the head off are you joking really no no You're not even allowed to see them with the head off. Are you joking, really? No, no. No, I'm not joking, no. So it's like fucking covert FBI shit?
Starting point is 00:16:50 It's not FBI shit, no. I mean, it's just you're not allowed to see them with the head off. Well, no, I mean, if you're basically in a situation, it's like you'll be sacked and you'll never work for Disney again. Like, if you... Yeah, I mean, I do think the magic of Disney would be ruined if, like, as soon as they finish their shift, they pop the head off and start wandering over to the cafe. Do you not think? No, yeah, I think it would be ruined if like as soon as they finish their shift they pop the head off and start wandering over to the cafe
Starting point is 00:17:06 do you not think? No yeah I think it would be I mean it would be terrible if you sort of you know you're with the
Starting point is 00:17:11 boys as with Grace and all of a sudden you saw Minnie Mouse bowling past and sort of she's having a cigarette and sort of
Starting point is 00:17:15 scoffing back her sort of big back that wouldn't be very fun but no you know
Starting point is 00:17:20 what if there's a big fire alarm? I assume they evacuate heads on I don't know so that would be terrible wasn't it? if you like What if there's a big fire alarm? I assume they evacuate heads on. I don't know. That would be terrible, wouldn't it? You're literally, everyone's running out of Disney World
Starting point is 00:17:31 and sort of galloping past you and sort of goes many miles with those big silly shoes they have to wear and a massive head. Just the horror of seeing a disaster unfold and just Mickey with his hands on his face like that. God, was it terrible? Yeah, actually the worst bit of it
Starting point is 00:17:52 wasn't actually the big fire in the canteen. It was the part that I got out sprinted by Donald Duck on the way out in his full costume. It was just so mad because I had to get past Mickey and Donald doing some slapstick stuff on the way out while people were running for their very lives. They were like the band out of Titanic. They were the ship.
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Starting point is 00:19:57 don't expect to see a lot of pictures posted but can you just send me some pictures yeah the memories being made is the reason why we're going now, because Lisa wanted to go when they were younger,
Starting point is 00:20:08 and I just said, what's the point? You might as well take them to some sort of camping site, put some Mickey ears on them, and then when they grow up, show them the photos and say, this is when we were at Disney, because they're not going to remember. Well, I'm the opposite. Whereas now, they're going to remember. I remember when I was really young.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Are you? The Princess Castle stuff. Yeah. Have you done Disney before? No. No, no. I've that. I was really young. Were you? The Princess Castle stuff, yeah. Yeah. Have you done Disney before? No, no, no. It would be strange, like I say, if I, oh, we're going to go back and forth this year. Oh, no, no.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Oh, yeah, I forgot. Sorry, Matt, I'm so sorry. I forgot you were never a child. You were born at this age, weren't you? I'm so, I'm so sorry. No, I'm born at this age. I'm so, so sorry. That is actually quite a good film.
Starting point is 00:20:44 I was no childhood film I was going childhood I was born at fucking 43 born at 43 quite quite quite a heavy
Starting point is 00:20:51 duty birth actually yeah you might think it'd take a long time to say the story of my life but actually I got
Starting point is 00:20:58 born yeah mother died instantly obviously imagine something this size everyone had to get their heads
Starting point is 00:21:04 around it obviously at 43 myold man being bought. But my dad got me out to work within about two weeks. And yeah, yeah, that's been my life ever since. We never had money. I just wondered if they might have. Some people, even if they haven't got money to burn, would save up.
Starting point is 00:21:23 It's like a big thing. No, we were we were very much your version of Disneyland that my dad would have my dad would have made mouse ears and put them on us
Starting point is 00:21:33 and sort of said oh no no that's where you went to Disneyland and we were actually being at a caravan somewhere we went to Pond
Starting point is 00:21:39 yeah we went to Pond oh is that is that is that Donald Duck no that's Dean the Dinosaur
Starting point is 00:21:46 he was sort of very big at the time it's D-A-N just because there's some copyright issues with the actual other Dean the Dinosaur
Starting point is 00:21:54 that another park has got he's got his head mask off oh no he doesn't have a head mask they only designed the suit up to
Starting point is 00:22:00 the sort of neck that's actually the full costume yeah but if you look he's painted some dinosaur eyebrows on. You know the thing about Pontins is like, there is something like sort of traditionally British and tragic about it.
Starting point is 00:22:16 But I remember, I mean, you'll say this is absolutely textbook Al, I remember we went there for a week, because actually I think I've told this story so many times where I did my first ever stand-up gig I entered the talent competition at Pond. Weren't you like sort of 13, 14 or something? No, I was eight. Anyway. Oh, Romy wants to do it. Romy, do you want to hang out with the other teenage boys? No, I want to do my stand-up act please.
Starting point is 00:22:44 I want to do my stand-up act, please. I want to do my Richard Pryor stuff. If you can't watch me do stand-up, I want to do stand-up, please. Are you sure you don't want to go drink and get drunk with all the other boys? But darling, darling, some of the kids are smoking behind there and they've got a bottle of cider. I think that's more your speed. No, I want to share my gift of like following observations I've had about things I've seen and that.
Starting point is 00:23:12 This new with a bunch of fucking seven-year-olds all dressed in tutus. Darling, you know you're up against, like, three girls doing a ballet performance and there's one boy playing the keyboard? Yeah, yeah, I just want to see what I've got up against, you know, how I compare against. I think there might be an upper age limit, darling.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Well, is it possible to have a word? You're like the opposite of Rodney Trotter in that episode. Oh, Lord. Anyway, full disclosure, and I probably should have checked with my brother before I tell this, both he and I cried as we pulled out of Pontins at the end of that holiday. Really?
Starting point is 00:23:47 Because we enjoyed ourselves so much. That's a beautiful thing, though. That's a beautiful thing. When you didn't want to go home as a kid, I think you're going to have that with probably Alex and Charlie. I think Theo's too cool for that. Theo will not give a shiny shit.
Starting point is 00:23:59 I mean, he'll have a good time, but he won't give a shit. Yeah, but yeah. Whereas Alex and Charlie, it's quite upsetting as a parent to sort of leave somewhere
Starting point is 00:24:07 and see your children be so upset to return home with you like distraught yeah well Grace is going through a time
Starting point is 00:24:14 where she gets annoyed and cries about anything that she can't do with Theo I get the feeling that Theo
Starting point is 00:24:22 if Theo's got a real like sort of I could call Bradley Cooper vibe I know I've got the idea that he might if Theo's got a real, like, sort of, like a cool Bradley Cooper vibe, you know, I've got the idea that he might tell you, like, two weeks after, he'll just go, he'll lean into you and whisper and go, yeah, thanks for a cool holiday, man,
Starting point is 00:24:33 that was actually cool. That's exactly the sort of thing he'd do. And you're like me, you're anxious, and you'll be going, I don't know if Theo's enjoyed himself. Yeah. But he also will, I'll report back to you, on more than one occasion tell me that I'm being muggy.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Does he know that phrase? Yeah. You can't do that thing that you wanted to do when you run up and hug Spider-Man and Iron Man because it would just... Sometimes, and I don't consider myself to be a loud person but on a couple of occasions he's told me to keep
Starting point is 00:25:09 my voice down like when we've been at a restaurant not in like a he's like a gaslighting boyfriend I'm just trying to be myself Theo Dad if you are going to have that voice,
Starting point is 00:25:25 do you mind sort of keeping it down a little bit? Sometimes he'll catch me out getting animated about something at the table. And then he'll just look embarrassed and go, Dad, Dad. And then look around at the other tables. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Why are you getting so excited about it, dinner? I don't think I am. That's the thing. By the way, just before, that was so disgusting what I just saw. Because what happened was, is you went,
Starting point is 00:25:52 what are you getting excited about at dinner? And then you fucking prepared your face to do the island push and sort of screwed it up and then sort of abandoned it before you went.
Starting point is 00:25:59 It's so disgusting what happened to your face there. In my head head it's like you all sit down as a family and you're like, oh, they've got a sweet corn chowder. And then Theo's like, oh, mate, keep it down. He's like a cool one at your family, isn't he?
Starting point is 00:26:16 Yeah, I would say so, yeah. I'm slightly... Do you think this is mad if I go to the gym when I'm at Disney? No, I think it's good. I feel really, I've not been to a gym once this week. Yeah, I'm in a similar situation. And already I can feel the effect on my mental health.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Thankfully, I'm going away, so that'll hopefully take care of that. But also, do you have the other thing where, do you worry that this is like an innermost fear? It's not at the forefront of my mind, but it has occurred to me in the past. I do feel like my, you know, that kind of got to work, got to work mentality, you know, grind or whatever, has infected me so badly that there's a small part of me that thinks the industry will decide while I'm on holiday to sort of shut me out. And then when I come back from Disney, I'll phone flow and I'll go,
Starting point is 00:27:08 so what's the next week? She goes, actually got some good news and bad news. The good news is you've got a bit more time to yourself. The bad news is that time is forever because, uh, they decided on the one, the one week that you decided to,
Starting point is 00:27:22 to not be overstretching yourself and overexposing yourself on television, they realise that actually entertainment's a lot better without you. So thank you for allowing them to have that little break. On a sincere note, I do actually completely empathise with that feeling. I mean, I love the way you ask that question. It's fucking, we started the podcast at 7.15, I think, until midnight last night from filming from where I'd been there at 4.20. And the night before, I'd fucking travelled the 300 miles to do a fucking work in progress.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Yeah. Well, look, congratulations on having one of my quieter days. In my schedule, Flo and I refer to that as a break. No, I'm joking, I'm joking. That sounds brutal, man. You know what? I will keep... What I was thinking is just doing like a wolf an hour
Starting point is 00:28:09 when you're away. I'm doing it. What are you talking about? That's what I mean, when you're away. So you keep your feet in. So, yeah. Oh, right, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:18 We're going to do a Disney app. Oh, my God. It'd be so sick if you could get a couple of characters in. Yeah, you can... You have to queue up to even have your photo taken with them. I don't think they're going to come and do the Wolf and Owl podcast. Are you going to queue up and get a picture with them? I'm not going to, no, but that's what happens if you want to get a picture taken. I will not be queuing up.
Starting point is 00:28:39 You know, I'm going to give you a tip here, mate, and this is a big tip. Do you know what I'd absolutely love? What? A tip from someone who's never been. Yes, please. No this is a big tip. Do you know what I'd absolutely love? A tip from someone who's never been. Yes, please. Yes, please. You're like the opposite of Martin Lewis. Martin Lewis goes, look, I've got a fuck-all clue about money, but let me tell you what I think you should do, just shooting from the hip. Switch
Starting point is 00:28:56 to Eon. Probably. No, look, listen to me, and I think this will go out of stead you will. Lurk about, right, where all the people are queuing up for the photos right just hang about find the little hut
Starting point is 00:29:08 or wherever they're getting the pictures done or if it's out in the real world just like lurk about just watch right so follow Mickey is that what you're saying no no no
Starting point is 00:29:16 and then at some point he's going to have to have a break or he's going to have to go and just he's doing that go quit lease quit boys and then sprint over to him and he's walking off
Starting point is 00:29:23 and he's sort of done his time and goes sorry Matt I know you're on your lunch break. Here's like $5, can we get, you know, keep that cash in hand, can we get a picture of you? And you really think that's going to work? Mate, I will guarantee that will work.
Starting point is 00:29:34 If that doesn't work, I will, I'll buy you a new pair of trainers. I guarantee that will work. I don't know how long Disney World's been around, I think 50 years, and you think you're the first person to, you don't think there's a system in place to stop that sort of thing happening mate i of course there's gonna be a way mate like if you really want and if you're worried about it when you get out there facetime me and just be like look this is what we're dealing with i definitely will be able to come out with a plan for you i think that works with dean the
Starting point is 00:30:04 dinosaur at pontins i don't i don't think that works with Dean the Dinosaur at Pontins. I don't think it works with Mickey Mouse at Disney World. Can I just tell you, Mickey isn't Mickey. Mickey is a man or a woman inside a Mickey costume
Starting point is 00:30:14 Yes, I know, I know. This is not the same thing when I have to tell you that wrestling isn't real. Okay? I know that Mickey's not a real person, okay? Right.
Starting point is 00:30:22 So if you lurk at all, you know what you could do? Wait until sort of like you get a second, just whisper into their ear and go like, or you know what you could do? Wait till sort of like you get a second, just whisper into their ear and go, do you take the costume home with you?
Starting point is 00:30:30 How can we meet at your apartment? I'll give you $20. That's cool, because I think Lisa said, do you know what I'd really love out of this trip? A lifetime ban.
Starting point is 00:30:40 With something like that, where you're just like, so you haven't got, because cute, let me tell you by the way, I haven't been to Disney, I've got friends who have, you're going to do a lot of queuing. Unless you've got a queue, so you haven't got, because Q, let me tell you by the way, I haven't been to Disney, I've got friends who have, you're going to do a lot of Q-ing
Starting point is 00:30:47 unless you've got a Q, have you got a Q-pass thing? Well, I thought I was going to get it until I talked about doing that thought park and we got a very angry email. Oh God, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Oh yeah. So, this person's made me feel like a prick. So you're not going to, you're just going to Q. I mean, to be fair, I think Q-ing that's hard.
Starting point is 00:31:02 You'll meet some really good friends, friends for life that you'll like email and fucking Instagram and mean, to be fair, I think cueing that's hard. You'll meet some really good friends, friends for life, that you'll email and fucking Instagram and Facebook and such. Tom, you'll get this when Grace is older. The fear
Starting point is 00:31:13 of how your kids are going to behave in front of other families when you cue for something is so insane. Really? Like, Alex and Charlie, I reckon they can be in a cue
Starting point is 00:31:22 for, I don't know, rough estimate, 50 seconds before one of them is kicking the other one in the shins. Initially starts off as banter. Eventually, and they're just looking up and down the queue or looking at people in front of you, behind you. There'll be occasional tut, shake of the head. You know, the problem is, you know, obviously I won't get recognised at Disney World, but whenever I'm in a queue at Thought Park or Chessington, I'll get added in social media about what an observation that was made
Starting point is 00:31:52 about my family and their behaviour. It's very nerve-wracking. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. You know, oh, God, day ruined when Romesh encouraged his boys to get their dicks out in the queue. Like, you can't do anything. You're just trying to have fun with your family.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Do you know what I mean? Hey, get on. Talking about social media, I've deactivated Twitter. You what? I've deactivated Twitter. Go on, what happened? What was the trigger? Well, I think it's really toxic.
Starting point is 00:32:18 I don't know, you don't go on it now, do you? Mm-mm. It's just so toxic. It's horrible. Sorry, KD. Did you get a particular attack? No, no. it's just so toxic horrible sorry did you get a particular attack that no no
Starting point is 00:32:29 it's not even I don't really I don't do much on Twitter if I'm honest with you I don't have much to do with it I sort of the only thing I ever do is really look at
Starting point is 00:32:37 Fantasy League now I'm actually regretting it because I do look at a lot of Fantasy League stuff on there but last sort of two three weeks
Starting point is 00:32:43 it feels that within our certain industry and what we do and then sort of beyond, it just feels so... Like if it was a pub that you went to and it was that toxic and that aggressive and that angry all the time, you wouldn't go in there anymore, would you? You wouldn't go,
Starting point is 00:32:59 oh, I want to go down the fucking... the goat. Oh, well, you go down the goat. Everyone's been really horrible to each other. There was a punch-up last night and it's really, really fucking goat. Oh, you're going down the goat? Everyone's been really horrible to each other. There was a punch up last night and it's really, really fucking aggressive. Yeah, yeah, but I was just fucking going to go down. I quite like it. I just thought on the way home last night, I was sitting looking at it and number one, I thought I could be doing other stuff at this point, like sleeping off. And I got into a bit of a rabbit hole and I thought, actually, I hate this
Starting point is 00:33:21 and I just deactivated it. I don't agree with having to pay for a blue tick because i think that that's gonna open up a whole so can anybody pay to get a blue tick is that how it works yeah that's how it works so you can you could get a fake one much ranger nathan paid for a blue tick who the would want to do that but um there's some weirdos who do that i'll tell you what there is though there's a fake rubbish ranger on facebook really and and like he's pretty like full-on i mean there's one there was one that was like replying to every comment on my facebook saying you've won a competition get in touch and dm me for the prize and then there's another one you know what i got a message from uh a couple who said oh we've been chatting to Ron on Faceit on here.
Starting point is 00:34:06 He's so lovely. And I was like, I straight away knew it was a red flag. Unbelievable. And they were like, and then about two, three hours later, they messaged going, I don't think it's the actual Ron, because it's not coming from his page. One of them's like approached women
Starting point is 00:34:21 and stuff like that, and like DM'd them going, thank you so much for your support. I really appreciate it. I just wanted to connect with you on a one-to-one basis. I mean, it's fucking dangerous, isn't it? Yeah, but that's what I'm saying about Twitter now. The reason I put Instagram or Facebook, you've got a blue tick on there, right?
Starting point is 00:34:37 So it verifies that that's you. And most people know now, oh, that's that person. But on Twitter, someone could just go, and you don't use it. I'm actually almost now regretting my deactivation even more now. Why? Well, because someone could just make a Tom Davidson account and pretend it's me.
Starting point is 00:34:53 But, yeah, but actually, I feel better for deactivating it from a list. Do you know what I respect about what you did? And sorry, I'm eating again. Is that you just logged off.
Starting point is 00:35:03 You didn't do what I did. You know what I did, don't you? Yeah. I don't like it anymore, so I'm leaving. Bye, Twitter. That's what I did. Oh, I didn't say any of that. No, no, no. I'm like, if you Google my account, it's still even there now. It's deactivated. You properly just got rid of it.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Scorched earth. Yeah. I'm like, I don't need that. I'm like, genuinely, I've looked at it. There's people I like on there, people I connect with now and't need that i'm like genuinely i've looked at there's people i like and they're people i connect with now and again but i'm like yeah i just thought genuinely i just thought it's just there's no like instagram there's positivities to it on facebook although instagram's starting to get a bit it's starting to get a bit nasty i think occasionally yeah but it's nowhere near what and twitter i'm like i don't like for my minute like like i say it just feels aggressive yeah all the time somebody somebody um you know
Starting point is 00:35:51 romantic getaway the thing i did with katherine somebody found um like the the that came out what three months ago something like that yeah somebody found the the picture that i initially posted yeah doesn't follow me just to go with you two in it i definitely won't be watching and i just thought to myself like you'd have had to have looked for that like i just wonder how much i'm trying to think of like what the thought process is to to get to that point where you go yeah i don't know maybe you saw an advert for it you saw it up on the Skyplan and you went, I fucking hate those two. And then,
Starting point is 00:36:28 and then you saw, actually, do you know what, let me tell them, let me tell them. And then like, you just search for it and then you go, this is going to feel really,
Starting point is 00:36:33 I wonder if like, I wonder if you feel like you get a dopamine hit from doing that, from like going, they're probably going to say, which I did. So if that person,
Starting point is 00:36:41 I'm in a doubt they'll listen to the podcast if they hate me that much. But it's also, it's within the power I'm talking about that it's Twitter in a doubt they'll listen to the podcast if they hate me that much but it's also it's within the poem I'm talking about that it's Twitter and everyone's aggressive
Starting point is 00:36:48 and everyone's fucking shouting and everyone wants to be heard the best way of being heard is going out and saying something to someone's face or throwing something at someone
Starting point is 00:36:56 or pushing someone the worst habit I have is almost exclusively replying to people who are horrible it's such a stupid thing to do and then i go why do they do it and then you go why do you think they do it you know like what the other day i you know that i think we talked about the photo last time with the my beard and
Starting point is 00:37:15 the hoodie and the sunglasses and all that i i put kids saying kids think i'm having a midlife crisis because that's what they said to me right right? Yeah. And somebody put, I doubt anybody actually cares. And then like did the, you know, the hands up in the air emoji. Yeah, which is the prick of all the emojis. I feel sorry for that. I think the other one, the thinking face is a prick,
Starting point is 00:37:34 but that one is one of the biggest pricks. No, I think thinking face you could use in a quite positive way. The shrugging shoulders one, I'm like, I feel sorry for him. Like when you put your phone down and all the emojis are just chit-chatting
Starting point is 00:37:44 and having a cigarette, he's not getting it. No one's chatting to him. He's like fucking ostracised for the rest of the group. Yeah, you don't get it. We understand. Do you think I want it to be like this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:57 But anyway, I replied to that guy. Obviously, loads of people said nice things. Not nice things, whatever, just commenting on the photo. Some attempted banter, as is always the case on comedians' Instagrams. But I just replied, it's Sunday, mate, chill out. Yeah. And he said, he replied with something like so nice that I couldn't believe it was, like, not so nice, but it was just like, yeah, I know what you mean, heading out for a Sunday. You know, like real sort of like interacting sort of chat, you know, like.
Starting point is 00:38:29 And I just thought that was so, that's so weird that that is. But this is what I'm saying. That is how you want it. Like, look, it's a proper 180. Do you know what I mean? But these people, when you're doing that, you're not necessarily doing it because you dislike that person. I generally think on Instagram sometimes it's just this sort of put your head above the power pit and be noticed. I do think on Twitter that it's just, yeah, it's just an aggressive place to be and i'm like you know what i just look at it i don't need i don't why would i have what like yeah why have i been hanging on
Starting point is 00:38:54 to this yeah can i ask you a question tom yeah well can i tell you something yeah uh so for the last uh 30 seconds of you talking you've been attempting to tie a knot in the strings on your hoodie right yeah and the other day i was wearing a hoodie with strings on it like that and i tried to do it tight into i went to tight into a knot and i've never done it before and i just had a vague recollection of somebody that i thought was stylish doing that and as you've done it I've realized that was you well thank you wow yeah I was getting quite tight that's like that is really positive for you I'd say arguably negative for me no it's positive it's
Starting point is 00:39:39 you know what it is well that is our friendship and like I like the fact that even if I'm not facially integrated with you, or we're not doing this. Facially integrated with me? It's not face-to-face or we're not doing a Zoom. Travolta and Nicolas Cage, is that what you're talking about? Oh my God, I'd love to remake that movie with you. Oh my God, we should remake that movie.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Why is his body still white? It's a very strange thing this I don't know maybe we could get rid of it
Starting point is 00:40:08 but me and Rob are in a very peculiar place of oh my god no no but we have
Starting point is 00:40:14 we're in a peculiar place we've been asked if we want to do a film together right and we have to write a script
Starting point is 00:40:19 why are you being so open anyway go on but we have no idea what to do with it. It's the first time we've both been... So maybe we'll run a poll.
Starting point is 00:40:30 This is so desperate. This is so desperate. I don't know whether JT should get rid of this bit. They're like, hey, guys, we're wondering, if we threw a party, who would come? Comment below. Yeah, JT, get rid of this bit. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:40:45 I think we should keep it here. You prick. Yeah, so have a think. Email your best ideas in. And then, yeah, you'll get a credit on the movie. I think they did a similar thing for The Godfather, you know. Did they? Yeah, like, just, I think it was like a radio thing,
Starting point is 00:41:04 and they said... I can't believe that I've fucking fallen for that imagine that meeting with Al Pacino Marlon Brand how did you come up with this idea
Starting point is 00:41:13 oh we did like a radio announcement and sort of we just said what would you like to see some mafia guys doing yeah this guy
Starting point is 00:41:20 Wally Egberg from Kansas came up with the idea of doing it about a don do you know I always think with that, look, Marlon Brando in The Godfather is one of the most defining
Starting point is 00:41:28 like fucking characters ever portrayed in a film, right? But it's a big fucking move, isn't it? What do you mean? Well, look, going back, I watched this recently in The Godfather. I went back and watched it. It's one of my favourite films. I've not watched it for ages, but go on. But when you sit and watch it,
Starting point is 00:41:43 everyone else in it is playing it very, you know, there's a realness to it. Like at the rehearsal, there must have been a moment, and look, this is coming from someone who has done this, but there must have been a moment when he did that voice, which, you know, you come to me on the day of my daughter's wedding, and you want...
Starting point is 00:42:01 And it's that sort of... That's a big character voice. You know what I mean? And everyone else is playing it very sort of like, this is... Yeah, but I think the same thing about you in The Curse. Yeah, I know,
Starting point is 00:42:11 but The Curse is a comedy. It's not a fucking, you know, we don't, we don't respect everyone. I know, but it's still like, it's still a decision for you to do that voice.
Starting point is 00:42:18 So like, when you, I'm asking as like, I mean, I think it's interesting. When did you decide to do that voice how did you reveal
Starting point is 00:42:27 that you're going to do that voice and were you nervous at all about making that decision because I'm saying this as somebody that respects that because it's a risk do you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:42:35 it's wicked by the way you know what I think of it it's fucking great and I think you what you do in that show is amazing and I think the show is brilliant it's one of the things
Starting point is 00:42:43 that I've always like it's such a it sounds like I think it's a mistake i think it's a really good it's a brave it's a brave thing to do i mean to go i'm going to think about i'm going to think about really pushing this guy away from what i am i mean tonally and all that so go on tell me uh i think firstly when i was doing g Gary it was always like you're just playing yourself and I'd obviously done Sleep
Starting point is 00:43:07 and Action Team and stuff and bits I'd done before it'd always been more characterisations and I'd sort of I liked to
Starting point is 00:43:14 build the character and yeah number two I've had that voice and I've used that in stand up and that voice was someone that
Starting point is 00:43:21 I knew back in the day and like I knew a bloke who spoke a bit like that and I've always there's always been like how would you get into a project and number three the nerves of doing it and the discussion about it when I first did that voice there was a real moment I'd shout Rupert Magendie actually because Rupert was producing that and James the front officer
Starting point is 00:43:40 James knew the voice but there was a moment where people were like yeah will you will people buy into it and it was like well you've got to take that risk and I think they will and I think you know the character is it is the yeah you build the character for the yeah for that voice up and then the sort of character yeah the little characteristics sort of come along with it but um but yeah I was very nervous and yeah again you know you've got a lot of people messaging saying oh yeah I can't understand
Starting point is 00:44:09 what you're saying sometimes and we think well that's the reality of life isn't it like not everyone the thing that frustrates me sometimes when I watch shows is that fucking
Starting point is 00:44:16 is it RP I've not yeah that sort of like way of watching something and everyone you know actually if you watch like
Starting point is 00:44:23 Narcos or you watch Narcos or you watch stuff and people have these weird vocal afflictions and whatever, I think we're in the world that we're portraying, which is a very working class world. Your dialect is going to be sometimes a little bit
Starting point is 00:44:38 muffled and a little bit... And I think that's... But my point with Brando is not that I'm not knocking that. I'm like, but that's, but my point with Brando is not like, I'm not knocking that. I'm like, but that's like, you're in a room with James Caan,
Starting point is 00:44:48 you know, Coppola's directing and to go in with some tissue in your mouth and essentially this is how I'm playing the character.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Like, it's one of the greatest portrayals ever of any character but to put on that voice which now has become, if you were on stage and you were going to do
Starting point is 00:45:03 an impression of a mafia don you would go for you'd go for that don Corleone but no one had ever done that you know you'd go back
Starting point is 00:45:11 and look at the ways that those guys have been portrayed before you know Cagney and whatever have been portraying mobsters and gangsters
Starting point is 00:45:18 it was I'm a little bit like this and all of a sudden you've got a guy who's speaking familiar and I'm making a lot for me what are you saying and all of a sudden you've got a guy who's speaking from speaking familiar and i mean you want from me what are you saying and all of a sudden i thought is a sort of like yeah that's that's a big move yeah i mean i would say thank you for that for two reasons one it
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Starting point is 00:47:24 I've just wanted to email it as I've been listening to the podcast since the very beginning. Genuinely a huge fan of you both. I find the podcast easy to relate to having been through some issues brought up on your show. This podcast is not only just entertaining, but in some ways, a source of support
Starting point is 00:47:33 going through situations which other people have emailed in about. There's lifted spirits when time's at art. Thank you very much for that lovely opening para. Your podcast is regular and got me laughing so much that I've stopped the car driving to work on occasions due to crying with laughter.
Starting point is 00:47:47 On one occasion, a sweet, sweet soul in the form of an elderly lady even tapped on my car window see if i was okay she thought i was having some sort of meltdown last night my wife and i watching celebrity hunted with ed gamble and james acaster not heard of those two this guy's thinking about talking about how i pick it would be to see the wolf and owl on there would you consider doing this i think i know the answer i know you both work harder than mo farah's trainers however this would be so good as it would be to see the wolf and owl on there would you consider doing this i think i know the answer i know your book you both work harder than mo farah's trainers however this would be so good as it only be the following you both have and the chemistry between you both would make this great tv plus it's for a good cause oh that's funny also the swan will get a couple of weeks of peace and quiet and the house will stay clean that's everyone's a winner right keep being the legends
Starting point is 00:48:20 that you are and do you the grumpy goat Thank you so much for a wonderful email, Grumpy Goat. How does Celebrity Hunted work, Tom? I don't know. Can I just say one? I'm going to say Hunted is one of my favourite shows, the actual Hunted. I think the Celebrity one I enjoy. But I just, you know what?
Starting point is 00:48:39 I think it's, because of the nature of it, I just don't think it. I prefer to do the real Hunted, where it's taken a bit more seriously. It feels like it's a bit more seriously. It feels like it's a bit more messing around. So what happens though? Do you go into hiding or something? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:56 I think it's like a month in the real one. It's two weeks or a week or two in the celebrity one. The celebrity one's a bit more... And then who's looking for you? The hunters. It's really a fucking great show. You know what? But don't you just go find a
Starting point is 00:49:07 shed somewhere? No, but you've got to keep on the move. There's a lot of different, you know. And I know
Starting point is 00:49:12 that I spoke to James and I spoke to Ed separately about this and they had an amazing time and I think it could
Starting point is 00:49:17 be really, really funny. Should we do it then? If I was going to do anything for me and you, which I think
Starting point is 00:49:23 would generally be my favourite thing, would be Race Across the World. That's what I want to listen for me and you, which I think would generally be my favourite thing, would be race across the world. That's what I'd do, yeah. That's a great idea. Why don't you and me do Gumball Rally? Oh, my God, and film it.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Yeah. Well, yeah, but you'd have to do all the driving. Yeah, fine. That'd be funny. I'll do all the driving. You up for it? Yeah, I'd love to do Gumball Rally. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:49:41 When's the next one? I think it's in a couple of months right Tom and I want to do gumball rally please universe make it happen there you go reach out and we'll film it oh my god we have to start it will get some get some YouTube footage hold on a week are we gonna like self fund this are we gonna like film this ourselves yeah we have to yeah yeah okay all right there you go you get those body cam so What's his name? The train guy. That's a great idea.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Yeah, Francis. Francis Bourgeois. Yeah. He's now become like, he's like a model now. He's like the coolest. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Do you know what?
Starting point is 00:50:15 He, by the way, is someone that me and you, he follows me and you, and I think he's very sweet, very open, and sent me a lovely message about the fact that when he was starting out, we were two people who really sort of did a lot of talking about him. He's now like, he's basically King Arthur to me and you, being a tragic pair of Merlins. He's surpassed us now.
Starting point is 00:50:35 He's got so big and cool now, I regret bigging him up in the first place, to be honest with you. He was a part of, you know when Gucci and Adidas linked and did that amazing drop? He was a part of you know when Gucci and Adidas linked I know did that amazing drop he was a part of that drop I know credit to him
Starting point is 00:50:48 take the moment and fucking smash it son have you seen have you seen his old partner in crime who's old
Starting point is 00:50:54 partner in crime Francis is he's got a partner in crime he had a guy there was two of them there's a guy
Starting point is 00:51:00 he's got as well called Ryan who does this thing called eating with Ryan and he used to also look at trains and so france has gone off to do all this amazing stuff it's quite ryan is sort of
Starting point is 00:51:11 still trying to sort of do yeah he'll film every meal that he has uh like with one of those cameras which isn't the same as like that isn't got the joyousness of like watching someone eating uh fish and chips and some baked beans isn't quite the same as watching the joyousness of watching someone eating fish and chips and some baked beans isn't quite the same as watching the joyous look of someone who's seen a train come through and they love trains. But also, Ryan's a bit like the Robbie Williams of their
Starting point is 00:51:35 relationship. He's gone out and partied and he's kicking the arse out a lot. He's quite a lot of the time out at nightclubs and stuff. Meeting with Ryan. Yeah. So, are you saying it's good? I don't think it's as good. I think there's still something quite sweet and joyous
Starting point is 00:51:52 to him. I think it's a sort of... I think Francis was... I think he's slightly trying to copy Francis. I imagine it's difficult for him seeing his partner go off and do massive things, but what a treat for him to know that we've mentioned him on the podcast and put the boot in him again.
Starting point is 00:52:08 No, I quite enjoy it. It's quite sweet about the kid. Yeah, no, it's really good. Big praise from you there. Thank you. Maybe we should clip this up and send it to him. Okay. This is from the Dowie Labrador.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Good afternoon, you two sweet fecking souls, yeah? Wow. Hope all is good with you both. I know. Hope all is good with you both. Long time listener. Big comedy fan and a huge male mental health advocacy fan. Big up yourself.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Thank you both for all your work making us laugh, making us feel better and helping us to accept when it's okay to feel sad. I'm currently sat by a roadside in Romboda,ri lanka came out here on holiday one of the most spontaneous decisions ever made in my life coming along with my fiance and one of her friends this place is incredible from feeding and washing elephants to eating local cuisine two questions for you both one mainly for rom one for tom and rom first question any size dishes in sri lanka you'd recommend rom uh next one what's the most spontaneous dish you've ever made? And do you regret it?
Starting point is 00:53:06 Love the results that came from it. No need for anonymity. My name's Ben, but you can call me the Doughy Labrador. Much love to you both. Kindest regards, Ben, the Doughy Labrador. I really like Ben. I do too. There's something about him, isn't there? He's got a vibe about him.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Yeah. I thought if you were ever in Ben's company, you'd feel like it was a blanket put around your shoulders. Yes. Yeah, I'm sure you would. Very Ben's company you'd feel like it was a blanket put around your shoulders yes yeah I'm sure you would very calming relaxing sort of decent actually yeah shout out to Ben I've so much really got a sort of picture of Ben's face
Starting point is 00:53:35 if I close my eyes can I ask you an honest question I believe whatever you say when you start doing all this stuff is it because you genuinely believe it or are you trying to buy time to think about what your response is going to be to the end no no i'll believe some of it i'm sort of 50 50 or both really i mean to be fair the the pressures on you you've got two questions no both no the second question well look the first question the first it'll see your first question any sites in chelangki or dishes i'd recommend i would
Starting point is 00:54:02 strongly recommend you get yourself some cotta rototti, which is basically like chopped up, like, roti bread with, like, meat and egg and stuff like that. It's a nice little street food dish, so I thoroughly recommend that. And then with regards to sights, I mean, it's well worth climbing Sigiriya, I guess, and having a look up there. I did it for Asian Provocateur. Well worth a check out. Tom, what's the most spontaneous decision you ever made? And do you love the results that came from it?
Starting point is 00:54:28 Uh, pretty much I'm saying I did. So when I was 21, we went to Las Vegas. I went to Las Vegas with a group of mates and we ended up with for like three weeks. I mean, I've said that, yeah, that's the first one we've been to America and we ended up, I ended up basically in a nightclub and the guys sort of asked me what i did asked if i was a boxer and i replied yes and he ended up basically bankrolling me to stay out there for like three weeks training in his gym uh because i i'd sort of because this is before the internet right so he can't sort of google me
Starting point is 00:55:02 so i ended up spending three weeks out in oswego with me and a mate training with him uh and that so that part was amazing i was in vegas for three weeks partying having a great time uh the bit wasn't amazing is when eventually he asked me if i told me that i was gonna have to fight someone uh in a boxing match and the guy that he wanted me to fight was absolutely fucking terrifying. How did that happen by surprise? What? The fight bit? Yeah. Well, I thought it was likely camp
Starting point is 00:55:30 that he was just putting me through, so I was sort of going to go back being better. I didn't realise it yet. And he was actually a bit like Don Corleone. He had a vibe to him. He was quite terrifying. So the spontaneity of it was, they said,
Starting point is 00:55:44 oh, do you want to stay out here and train? I had nothing to go back home for. I was laboring at the time. So I thought, oh, fuck it, this will be good. My power's the same. And we ended up, yeah, having an amazing time up until that moment. How did the fight go? I didn't do the fight.
Starting point is 00:55:59 I phoned my mum and asked if she could wire some money up. And me and my friend got flights back in the middle of the night. We flew back to England. We were absolutely fucked. I was... My pal was like, we could live out here forever. All you've got to do is get in a ring with this guy.
Starting point is 00:56:12 And I was like, but I can't fight. And he's going to fucking absolutely destroy me. He went, just throw the jab and run a bit. I was like, that looks like I'm teasing him though, doesn't it? Yeah. It looks like I'm winding him up. He's just like going to fucking rampage me.
Starting point is 00:56:23 And yeah, my ass went completely there's times i think i could have what if it had all gone right and if then but then whenever i sort of hit pads i realized i haven't got that i've got the thing yeah so that was probably the most spontaneous thing that i've i've ever done uh i don't think i've ever done anything spontaneous really um you should make your interesting that you should do so as i've thought about this it's made me feel incredibly boring but i don't think i have you should i mean i've done spontaneous things for like suddenly you go out for a night i mean i don't want to tell a story about uh one day i was going to stay in and then
Starting point is 00:56:58 ended up going out i mean that's not what that's not what ben's looking for he's in he ups and left and went to sri lanka for a for a bit on the spur of the moment. I wish I had a story about, oh, do you know what? We went down the pub down the road from my house, ended up in Barcelona. I don't have any stories like that. I've done that when you've ended up in Liverpool or Glasgow and you've gone for a pint down the local
Starting point is 00:57:18 and just decided, fuck it, it's boring, let's just all jump in. Like a jump on a train or something and convince someone to drive. Yeah. And then what happens? You get like a four-hour train to Glasgow
Starting point is 00:57:28 and you go, I'm fucking knackered. She's trying to find a hotel. Wrap this up. You want to look at like first train back in the morning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:38 These are the days before phones. Those are the great days. I miss those days sometimes. Yeah, not in the toilet, you don't. You're taking a paper so clumsily into the toilet, aren't you?
Starting point is 00:57:50 Oh, yeah. You know, like people having a stack of magazines by the toilet. Cut the GQs. I remember when I was at uni, we had FHM by the toilet. And the girls that we're living with called a house meeting and said they no longer wanted those publications in the toilet yeah it's quite a hot it's quite a hot debate in the house. I like to read about this kind of thing when I'm going for a plop.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Right Tom, I've got to get a plane. So let's wrap this thing up. Could you give us some words of wisdom, please? Mighty Tom. Hey, how you doing? What's going on? You reached out to a friend that you haven't seen for a while recently?
Starting point is 00:58:37 Listen, I'm just coming to terms with someone I love and adore who's not going to be on the same continent, let alone the same country as me, for a small time. And I feel kind of sad about that, kind of blue. But you know what? Every time I think about him, I'll probably text him and say,
Starting point is 00:58:53 I hope you're enjoying your time. I hope you're having a great time and things are good. That's the thing about life. Sometimes it's easy just to think, oh, should I reach out to Elliot or Sebastian or Claire or Ruth? And you think, oh, they probably don't care about what I think or they don't care about me. And they're just sitting there somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Maybe they're in Disneyland or Marbella or some sunny climb somewhere. And they're thinking about you and wondering what you're doing. The truth of the matter is, sometimes in life, it's good to reach out and say, yo, how you doing? I think they're my favourite texts when my phone pings and it's a voice from the past coming into the present saying hey i'm here for you dude so be that person be that text be that sound let someone know that you care because you know what that's what makes world go round, not energy and the sun and the moon.
Starting point is 00:59:46 It's knowing that we're all there for one another. Be cool, friends, and be yourself. Really, really nice, Tom. And I don't know who you were talking about in that bit, but can I just say what a lucky, lucky person they are to have someone like you looking out for them. No question. Guys, song for this week
Starting point is 01:00:06 is by an artist I love called Anderson Paak. I can't believe you didn't do Leaving on a Jet Plane. No. My bags are packed
Starting point is 01:00:14 and ready to go. Okay, let's do that. Who's that by? I'm standing here outside the door. Who is it? I hate to wake you up to say goodbye.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Okay, JT, can you play Leaving on a Jet Plane? you play Leaving on a Jet Plane? Is it Leaving on a Jet Plane? Don't know when I'll be back again. Well, ten days, but... Okay. See you in a bit.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Bye. Bye-bye. I hate to go. I'm leaving on a jet plane Don't know when I'll be back again Oh babe, I hate to go If you have a problem, opinion, feedback or anything at all, please email us at wolfalpod at gmail.com.
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