Wolf and Owl - S2 Ep 49: Porn Debates & Breakfast Shtick

Episode Date: June 7, 2023

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It's the wolf and the owl and the wolf and the owl. It's really hard as well because coming into it, I just sort of felt like I was having an asthma attack. Oh, is that the end of that thought? I thought you sort of started to say that

as if you're going to say something else and then it just started no no that was it um so we've got a few different ways we can start this episode because obviously we're coming straight hot hot off the last hot off the last hour of mediocrity that we've shat into the shat into the ether uh so so do you want a little bit of time before you open your porno vibe or look we can talk about it that would be like i think people are gonna be tuning in obsessed with your obsession with porn yeah and then they go and then they'll think to themselves why am i tuning into a podcast it makes no sense um but i uh i uh i've got an issue with the point i i sort of think that um

I've got an issue with the point. I sort of think that, first of all, basically, I just, my relationship with pornography is, I just think it's horrible. It's like so awful.

The way that like, women are like, consistently treated in pornography is horrific. I think sitting there and masturbating while watching it I think might be horrific. Like a fucking... It's disgusting.

Yeah, it's horrible. But you can't get ethical. What I was pontificating about at the work do that I misguidedly started talking about this pornography at was that you can't... I still can't work out how that subject

came up we were talking about podcasts and then I mentioned the John Ronson podcast about which is by the way everyone should listen to and I think nearly every man should listen to the butterfly effect because that's a big eye

opener for us some of you will think to yourself when you do listen to this brilliant podcast, which is essentially a series about Pornhub's effects on pornography. You'll listen to that and you'll think, how will two men, how do two men who have listened to that podcast

and what podcasts can be, how can they sit there and shit out the unplanned crap that they do week in, week out? So they do know that podcasts can be done. They are aware that they can be planned, researched, and delivered with some sort of level of professionalism and consistency. And yet, despite that, without even getting their sound properly done done without even giving a moment's forethought to what they might talk about even doing a bit of research to maybe look at the emails in advance so they can deliver sort of advice with some sort of substance no what do

they do they barely manage to press record and vomit their pathetic thoughts out into the atmosphere so look let's break it down, right? You're out, you're having some food, right? I imagine that you're... Was Beckett there? No, Beckett wasn't there. Okay, cool. Although I do know that Beckett has similar thoughts to me on this.

I've talked to him about it. So this wasn't even the first time I brought this conversation topic up. So just so you know. So I've brought it out for a reheat. This conversation. Okay, so you're chatting about your favourite podcast. Butterfly Effect

comes up. I bring it up. Can I just ask, what's the gender balance of the conversation? Half and half? Cool, okay. I would say, probably. What's the gender balance of your fellow diners? Cool, okay.

I would say, probably. Cool. So did you stand up when you made the point? No, no. You can't stand up when you've got a full erection at a work dinner. Were you at the head of the table? It was the table. No, first of all, I don't insist on that. Secondly, the table was a perfect square, so there no head okay cool cool um a little bit like the man who

was uh making the political stance how happy are you with that with how long it took you to sort of assert that i was a square are you slightly ashamed at how proud you are of that? I'm absolutely disgusted at myself. I just couldn't resist it. No, you sort of started chuckling as you were delivering the thought that you were... Which quite often is my way. ...that you arrived at with a glacial pace, if you don't mind me saying. So did you do the old school, sort of,

as you're sort of eating, like, your, you know, I don't know, asparagus, something or whatever. Mate,

fucking absolutely bang on, by the way. Did you have asparagus? Yeah, for a starter, yeah, asparagus. Yeah, of course.

Well, yeah, I mean, yes. And then you turned around and went, oh, fucking hell, don't even talk to me about bloody pornos.

And that's where you sort of got into that. Yeah, kind of, yeah. Right, okay. And I think that, actually, the way that I delivered my diatribe about pornography, I would say, if somebody didn't know me, they would think I was saying that to look cool in front of the women. Like, the way I sort of went into a rant about it,

it was a little bit... Did you bang the table at all? No, no, but I would say that it was an open conversation that I dominated in terms of airtime. I mean, it's pretty bad. Can I just ask you a question? Because this will judge how I think the other people like it so you're on it like you by the way you're beautiful record so when you're talking about this kind of thing I find it very absorbent you know every time let me just say

something you have trained me now to every time you pay me a compliment like that I start to get nervous i i start to prepare myself for an absolute this isn't just about you yeah go on no we all do this i'm very fucking i do it right so you're making a very you know big fucking emotive speech and you're talking about pornography and you're talking about it to a very diverse gender sort of group of people. Was there a time as you're making it a way to walk past, and you're like, and you know what, I really have, sorry mate, can you just grab us another beer?

Did you have to do that? That's the one that I find, I do it sometimes when you're chatting about 70 deep and then you, I'm sorry, just get another beer please. Anyway, what I'm saying, did you find yourself doing that at all? Tom, Tom, it's worse than that. I asked for a bottle of wine for the table. They must have got terrified. This guy, fucking hell, this guy's ordered a whole bottle.

He must be ready for this. This is going to be a long old stint, this. We're having dessert. He's got another 40 minutes. The meal's finished. This guy's just ordered another bottle of wine so that he can carry on doing his porn monologue we've all listened

to the podcast you know what actually when we leave here we'll just download the podcast I think he might have to do another podcast about the effect

that that first series has had on men's conversation fucking tying a cape around your shoulders and pontificating about your thoughts on pornography and girls listen

pornography can I just say pornography is great I would say that if everybody here was men by the way and pontificating about your thoughts on pornography. And girls, listen. Pornography. Can I just say pornography is great? Let me tell you something. I would say that if everybody here was men, by the way, just so you know. No, I'm not a hero. I'm just saying what I feel. I'm saying what I feel.

What I'm going to say now is we all need to do bloody better. I'm looking at everyone around, all the men around this time. Sorry, can I just stop you? No, because I know you're sort of having a breakout conversation there. If you wouldn't mind just focusing on what I'm saying, because it is actually quite important. We need to improve. And I think, you know, it's all very well...

Where's that bottle of wine? It's all very well talking about how the shoot's gone and stuff like that. And, you know, I'm sorry that your mum's ill, but I just feel like we need to kind of deal with this. And it's this kind of digression that is part of the problem I'm talking about, actually. We cannot afford to turn our backs and start other conversations

when this conversation's happening, okay? And when the wine arrives, when the wine... We will toast, we will toast what I've just said and the relevance of the conversation that I've just talked to all of you about from my point of

view can i just stop you know i would like to try it first actually because the last one was slightly corked if you don't mind yeah did everyone seem like did anyone mention this morning on the plane right home well i i got a plane on my own actually i i i assume that that was always going to be the case. But I couldn't say for sure. This is so creepy. Just someone looking. Everybody else was on another flight. Just changing their flights it's quite

yeah there's nobody on the plane that's weird that's weird because this is the airport that's closest to everyone's houses they're going to Luton for some reason

yeah you know what I'll pay for myself to have another night in Monaco on F1 fucking weekend rather than get a flight yeah there still seem to be messages on in Monaco on F1 fucking weekend. Yeah, there still seem to be messages on the Monaco WhatsApp going. I'm not sure what's going on.

They're all saying, where do you want to go tonight? But we're in the UK, aren't we? All of us. That's weird. Hi, it's Rob. I'm going to fly back. Guys, great news. Great news.

I can be there in two hours. Actually, in the car on the way to the airport now see you then there was some actually weirdly there was some stuff that I didn't quite explain in the way that I wanted to so

look forward to seeing you get your porn ears on oh god anyway yeah but it's a grim old world I'll make you right and I actually think that all joking aside Anyway. Yeah, but it's a grim old world. I make you right. And I actually think that all joking aside,

it's a good thing that you've done to sort of raise that conversation. No, I wasn't raising it. Now you're making it. No, I'm saying. No, I'm saying. I think it's good that you're doing it. You're having an open conversation about it. No, but you're doing a thing like,

I did actually like clink the glass to get everyone's attention and talk about it. No, but you're doing a thing like, I did actually, like, clink the glass to get everyone's attention and talk about pornography. No, no. It's just where the conversation went. No, no, no. And I am saluting you and I'm toasting you. No, I don't want you to do that. No, but I do think it's good

that you're having that conversation. No, I don't mean that. I think that more men should have that conversation because it's a grim world in which we're talking about. Here's another thing that I want to talk to you about actually that's popped into my head off the back of a Monaco trip. I don't want to give too many spoilers, but obviously it was Rob and Ron versus F1. We were out there for the Grand Prix. Grand Prix? Grand Prix? And we were by the way sorry sorry sorry what I'm not

having that my fucking square joke got absolutely ripped to shreds and you just said you just used Grand Prix oh that wasn't a joke I wasn't doing a joke it's not it's Grand Prix in it yeah is it Grand Prix is it Grand Prix Grand Prix Grand Prix Prix? It's Grand Prix. Grand Prix. Like prawn. Yeah, because you sort of say it in French. Like prawn-prix. Grand Prix. Grand Prix.

Is that what you're saying? Grand Prix. Grand Prix. Grand Prix. Grand Prix. Not Grand Prix. That's what, that's what, that's, that is what an avid porno watcher would say if you're in a, you know, where have you been today? Oh, mate, I've had a right laugh I'm down to grand pricks

you're very pleased with yourself on this second bout of this podcast aren't you I don't think I've ever seen you laugh at anyone as much as you have been at yourself after everything you've said so far I laugh a lot at you when you say stuff not as much as you seem to be finding yourself funny though after everything you've said so far. I laugh a lot at you when you say stuff. Yeah.

Not as much as you seem to be finding yourself funny, though. I don't know. It could be the antibiotics. Yeah, maybe. It's my inner monologue as well. It's very frustrating for the listeners, this, because they must be thinking to themselves, I wonder how Tom's hearing condition has progressed over the week. But unfortunately, we've got no news for you,

because we're recording this straight away. Should we tell the audience why is we're recording this straight away some i mean it's uh i'm away on holiday so it was that one i have a episode so yeah um yeah i sort of i want to have a week where i'm just like it's just complete just yeah you've got to take it listen you know why would you possibly want to break your holiday up by spending an hour having a conversation? Yeah, but when you go away, you go away for like a month. No, that happened once, Tom, okay?

And I took my microphone and we recorded every week, didn't we? But now, because you want a break, we're having to do two episodes back to back and which by the way can i thank you for doing it because i think it's a very very kind and sweet well i just returned today and lisa and the kids are desperate to see me but off to the garage i go to uh i'm not going to take blame for that because you were late on your flight back because you decided to have it and not an extra night in monaco where you just i didn't know i didn't have an extra night in monaco we wrapped yesterday and then went out for dinner after so i have an extra night how dare you how dare you

i can get home or i can have one of the old party wrong could give monaco actually lily the girl sorting out the flights absolutely brilliant the. The whole team are brilliant. She did say to me, Romesh, I've scoured and scoured and scoured. I have found a flight that gets you back tonight. And I said, you're not getting out of the dinner that easily, Lily. I'll see you there. Me and the rest of the crew have all pitched in

so you can get a private flight back. I don't think so, Lil' Lil'. I should be there, my lad. Do not trouble yourself. I shall see you at the soiree. Oh, yeah. Anyway, I've digressed hugely. That's not what I wanted to talk about at all.

What I wanted to talk about was we were lucky enough to talk to Toto Wolff, the head of the Mercedes team. And he commented on my grey beard. Oh, really? He sort of took the piss out of me, which is fine. I was totally fine with that.

But the question I'm asking is, should I dye my beard and hair? No. No. Hold on, why? You don't dye your beard and hair. Why? And hair, I'm asking.

It's just not done. And hair. Well, it's like getting grey at the sides, at the temples, I'm getting a little bit yeah but you you like fucking you live with that fucking mix man you're getting older i can do it gracefully like why are you getting so aggy about this i'm not getting aggy but it's like like you can't be dying your hair and beard why Why? Because I just don't think it's becoming. Why is it not becoming, though?

I look younger. I'm asking. I'll look younger, won't I? No, no, but look. We had a discussion recently, I said, about getting plugs, and you talked me out of it. Did I? It's the same thing, yeah.

Okay. It's the same thing. If you were to come out and all of a sudden have this jet black beard, jet black hair, you're essentially stepping into a world where you're... That's what **** did for years. Oh, my God. Well, **** is a national treasure.

Until the stuff comes along. Yeah, I know, exactly. But, yeah. Let's not get into that. Let's look into that. We all have the power to shape the world. We're connected to the world. We share to each other.

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Have you been on it? I did Good Morning Britain in the press run for The Curse. Right. And I've never, like, we talked in the last episode about bad dates, bad relationships. I've never been interviewed and had the feeling that someone wanted to get rid of me quite so quickly as

when I did Good Morning Britain. What I would say to you is, that's always what it's like on Good Morning Britain. So if I can alleviate your I genuinely left it feeling absolutely Dejected. Yeah. Like someone there had gone, who the fuck

is this guy? What's he doing on here? And they're like, look, just talk to him for max a minute and a half. Who was hosting when you went on it? I don't really want to phone anyone. I don't want to be horrible. And I don't want to phone anyone. I mean, I can't imagine it's difficult to find out

if somebody wanted to, Tom. So you might as well say. Well, then they can look into it. But I don't want to be that person. So Ben Shepard and Charlotte Hawkins, yeah? No, no, no, no. Let me just shout Ben but I don't want to be that person so Ben Shepard and Charlotte Hawkins yeah no no no let me just shout

Ben Shepard because I have done it before with Ben Shepard can I just say this I fucking love Ben Shepard Ben Shepard is an absolute gentleman can I just say

for as long as I've been doing this game and whenever I've been Ben Shepard and Kate go away I would say are two of the nicest people to interview

they're bloody lovely, aren't they? Yeah. Oh, my God. I just think they're really nice, genuinely nice people. I think Ben's, yeah, I think they're two very nice. So, you know, actually, one of the people who did interview me was Kate Galloway in this situation. But can I just say that...

And what was Adil Ray like? Well, yeah, I mean, that was the other person. Adil Ray, look, I And what was Adil Ray like? Well yeah I mean that was the other person Adil Ray look I don't know Adil Ray but it very much felt like there was someone else a lot more

he was a lot more interested in waiting in the wings When were you in the show? I was just after Richard Arnold and his bit his bit of schtick, him talking about

some of his celebrities. Shots fired at RA there. Needless to say. No, no, Richard Arnold's Richard Arnold. So he's done his bit where he's talking about being at a film premiere

or he's done one of his interviews. Very dismissive. Very dismissive about Richard Arnold's work there. I don't know. Richard Arnold's a good man. He was doing his thing where he was like, turn up to a premiere. No, no, Richard, can I say as well, Richard Arnold's work there Richard Arnold turned up to a premiere

can I say Richard Arnold was yeah no look Richard Arnold had done his

shtick which is his thing his shtick is an insult by the way that's an insult to say that

by the way that's not an insult if someone told me last night I saw your shtick I thought it was good I'd be like, that's fine. If you heard on Richard Arnold's podcast,

him and Adil Ray talking about the worst guest ever on Good Morning Britain, and he said, he said, Tom Davis came on and did his shtick. Would you take that as a compliment? No, because I didn't get a chance to do my shtick. If I'd done my shtick, I would have been fucking happy with myself.

Just scrambling off, just as they cut to the break. I didn't get a chance to do my bloody shtick. I had a load of shtick lined up here. You're not letting me show it. Do any of my shtick. By the way, no point doing an interview if you have it completely shtickless.

After this, we'll follow up by Robert Shrankenathan, who's going to give his talks on pornography why he doesn't want to leave no but so richard arnold's come out of his bit right yeah and then it comes to me and it was yeah it was it was scandously they didn't even ask me about anything to do i didn't ask me about the bait off and about one other thing and and then it was they didn't even ask me about anything to do i think they asked me about the bake-off and about one other thing and and then it was they didn't even ask me about any of the stuff i was there for and it was like as soon as they asked me a question i went to give the answer and then the next question came flying in it was kind of so they asked you a question you gave an answer they asked you the next question that's what you're furious no no no they asked a question right so i turned around

and go um rubbish so you've just been to Monaco. How was Monaco? Yeah, it was good. And you've got another book that's come out, right? So this book that you're doing at the moment, the book, and how... So do you enjoy writing? Yeah, I do.

And you're talking about getting your beard dyed. Is that true? Are you going to get your beard dyed? Yeah, I talked about it on my... And you have three sons, I believe. Three sons? Yes, I have three sons, but I've not come on here. And great.

That's brilliant. That's amazing. And we can't get you on here without asking you this. Your favourite music is hip-hop. Who's your favourite rapper of all time? I'd probably say... That's great. Robert Dragon, I think, everyone.

And he's going to be... I think he's touring. He's got a new film out or a show. Anyway, I'm sure you can find it. Have a look at Instagram. Our next guest is one of our favourite people. Is that what it was like, really? Pretty much, genuinely like that, yeah.

Shall I tell you why I think that is? And it's not a slight on you. That has happened to me every time I've been on there. Not, maybe not to... But it's not always happened. Like, if it's Ben and Kate, I've done it with. But sometimes they're squeezed for time. And you're

you're the least important thing on the show I don't mean because which is fine yeah no no no but that's fine but then

to get there that morning I got up at 4am no I I understand this I understand and then you're like cool I get it

I don't like but if you haven't got any time at all with someone just go what we got to talk about? Just get one bit. Go, oh, I'm touring.

Or I'm touring about the curse. And in that minute, let me have my shtick. Sure. Sure. Because that's what I find. That's what I found quite, like, oh, this isn't film. I'm sorry, Tom. Very nice.

I'm sorry. Have you not had that? So you've had that experience with it. Yeah have had loads of times yeah like and sometimes they um it goes the other way it just depends on how the show's going like like they're the timings are so fluid so like a lot of the time during covid i was on there quite a bit and i had to be like waiting by my laptop and just be sitting there looking at your own face coming back at you just on the on standby for and they'd say to you're going to be on at 8 15 8 45 rolls around and they go right we're coming to you in a minute and then by that time they've done so much that they've only got time to sort of literally have you wave and then say yes i am doing a new show and then that's it

they just move you on and then you go well i missed a school run for that uh but other times they like one time i was on holiday they asked me to like i had to promote i think league of their own or something and so i did it from where i was staying and they had loads of time so they started asking me other questions like jerry sadowitz had just been uh kicked out of his edinburgh venue and then they started asking me if comedies become toothless as a result of cancel culture or whatever. And like, that's because they just were like, fuck, we were, we were running, like we were running under here.

And so suddenly you then get loads of questions asked of you. And it's not because it's not because they liked me anymore. I thought the interview was going well, it's just literally like, Oh, we've got 10 minutes to fill in. Let's ask him some other stuff. Do you know stuff do you mean it's like you are at the mercy of uh the timings of that i get that i get that i think that's yeah yeah i understand that it doesn't feel like you understand that you you're you're the way that you just responded is like somebody who doesn't want to have the argument anymore but still doesn't agree no no no no no

no i understand that you know let me do it let me do a bit of stick that's all i'm saying i love the expression stick by the way i just think it could i just think it can be derogatory do you know what i mean it suggests that what you're doing is i think it implies what you're doing is affected and fake rather than actual. Really? Yeah, I do. Do you really? I think that's how it can be taken, yeah. I've always thought

of it as being a compliment. I enjoyed your shit. Well, I imagine you'd need to the amount of times it's said about you, but it's probably the best way to kind of deal with it. I always take take as a compliment when somebody says I'm fucking shit. I like the fact they've listened to my stuff and they have an opinion.

I love it. If someone shouts out wanker, I think, fair enough. We all do, don't we? Except for Rob, actually. It turns out. I had a little chat with him at work, too. Yeah, not for him. Everyone else else I think were you vaping

while you were making your why are you doing this you didn't did you vape no I didn't no I haven't vaped in a restaurant

come on mate got some class oh no oh no oh no what did at any point during the conversation,

did you go, I'm just going to go and vape? Did you then go outside and vape and then come back and then pick up the conversation? I knew that's what you were going to ask me, and I can confirm. No, I didn't say, hold on. I didn't say I'm pausing. I didn't say, what I didn't do is go, right,

now hold that thought. Hold that thought. I didn't go, I didn't do is go right now. Hold that thought. Hold that thought. I didn't go and you'll know. And I'm going to tell you the rest of my thoughts on that specific element in a couple of minutes. I didn't like throw to a break. I just like the conversation was going on and I got off. Just as you get up with your vape and head to the door, someone just goes, oh, fucking hell. He's just hell he's just

he's asked to wait for another bottle of wine on his way out oh god this is not helping me Elvino Chaflo do you know I saw a lovely site today

actually tell me Tom I'd love to hear about it me, Catherine and Grace went to the garden centre and then we went to get a car wash and at the car washing place

there was just like this chap who was just sitting and he had like his like sort of lunch and sort of like one of those sort of flasks of tea

and he was just watching cars getting washed like it was entertainment. Oh really? Oh no. It was quite a nice you know like you get train spotters and stuff.

I just thought it was quite a beautiful sort of thing. I've just... Have you just knocked over your can of Prime? No, it's something... Oh, God. What? For fuck's sake. What have you knocked over?

I've just knocked... Yeah, I've knocked over a can of drink. Can of Prime. It was a can of Prime. By the way, we got an email about that, about Prime. Oh, really? Yeah. Saying that we shouldn't be endorsing Prime

after the ksi um p word incident oh yeah i mean i've never ever tried prime so i'm not oh cool cool um do you do you want to carry on for a little bit while i climb out from under this bus Oh dear. Anyway, we should probably respond to that. I would say that I actually, I'm ashamed to say I'd forgotten about that incident. But look,

you know, the person that emailed in said i think that um he's been let off too lightly for that and obviously it's a horrible word um i think it's uh it's horrific that anybody there thought that that was okay to use that word i thought it was horrific that it was laughter i think that you know if you've had that word shouted at you in the street that i think that you know if you've had that word shouted at you in the street or said to you as you're being hit as as that has happened to me in my life you realize how highly charged that word is so i do think it's a horrific thing i know he's issued an apology it's up to you as an individual to decide whether you accept that apology or not and to decide whether you know

whether ksi is racist or not which i don't think he is he has used racist terminology in and it's yeah it's it's inc it's very very bad and so i actually to the person that emailed it i understand i do actually understand where you're coming from um so yeah fair play um okay tom should we do some emails yes uh okay Tom, should we do some emails? Yeah, let's do them. Okay. This is from The Drunk Llama.

And The Drunk Llama says, Hey, guys, listened from the start. Never commented before. Love the pod, blah, blah, blah. Of course I do. I wouldn't listen. Helping to listen to your latest pod, you were talking about trainers, and you said how easy it must be

for people size 8 or 9 or medium or large. Being a size 9 trainer, medium in clothes, I've found that when shopping online, which is what I do through necessity more than once, two kids, full-time job, kids football coach, unpaid taxes, etc, etc, I generally find that anything decent trainer or clothing wise is almost sold out in the first 8 or 9, sold out first in 8 or 9 and medium to large and there is only a small or extra large left funny how it all works out if you guys can get me some mark four or five jordans at a decent neat rate price i trade for some size 11 dunks walking the dog struggling to type loving your work the drunk

llama peace tommy day what's the question there is no question it's more like an observation yeah it's more like an observation and I think like yeah I think today for example I was looking at for some bits you're still really grumpy off this good morning Britain thing aren't you

look you know what every other email we get in first of all can I just say you seem like a sweet sweet no you seem like an absolute diamond of a guy yeah but if I'm honest with you if you didn't say that

you said what's the fucking question? Look, I'm reading. You've got this morning thing, right? I'm now thinking about shtick, whether it's... I've been insulted with the move that someone's called my shtick shtick,

and that's not... Is that where your mind's gone now? No, and also, I'm still... I was coming into this one, and I don't even... At the moment, I need a Mighty McFly in my life because i don't know if we've used a lot that horrible email that we got so that energy sort of transferred

my god you're still people they're not gonna dude that was a week ago to the people listening yeah but for to me it's it's like 15 minutes i know that yeah yeah yeah i get that there's a lot of energy you need to draw a line under that yeah i know yeah but that guy's energy i think transferred into me a little bit that that guy okay let's just say i don't know what made the edit from your rant uh from the last episode that guy's probably gone fucking that was awful to hear the end of that all i was doing was just sort of emailing and he's absolutely gone in on me there. Anyway, it'll all be forgotten about. And you started this podcast still in that world. Really?

Your guy's probably gone, okay, I just want to listen to the next episode of Wolf and Alan and get past this. And now I know what you're doing. Well, anyhow, what I'm saying is negativity has a way of breeding negativity. So with it, I mean, I kind of think I've just been looking at buying holiday clothes. I couldn't find anything in an XXL, anything in an XL. Here's a question for you, Tom Davis, by the way, look, you're absolutely right.

This there is no question here, but what we would say is we're sorry. I guess you're not asking for an apology, but yeah, it's tough for everybody out there in the clothing world. So, you know, keep staying strong and you sound like a sweet, sweet soul. And we'd love to meet you for a pint. But Tom, my question to you is this. When you're buying holiday clothes, what is your holiday outfit of choice? Do you go for a short shirt co-ord? Would that be in your repertoire?

Yeah, I like a little bit of linen. Do you go for t-shirt and shorts? Yeah, I mean, a t-shirt and shorts for the day. What I'm liking is a sort of like very lightweight linen trouser with a sort of high waist and a some sort of like white, a nice sort of white t-shirt probably with a pair of Birkenstocks or a loafer. Oh. Oh. You really drew me in there. I thought you were actually describing an outfit and then you said Birkenstocks. I just, listen,

there is nothing wrong with Birkenstocks and when I see people wearing Birkenstocks I think they look good on you. I do not want to show anybody my feet. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Birkenstocks, I think, and I think you'd bust this look. I think a Birkenstock could look quite cool. Nice pair of fucking socks, right?

White socks. White socks, Birkenstocks, decent pair of shorts, and a nice t-shirt. I think Birkenstocks are pretty sick in that okay all right okay i think you bust that look pretty hard okay i'm gonna bust that i'll think about busting that yeah get a long white sock i'll make it a few long okay not too long i i i this bloody microphone get it to sort of lower lower calf so it's almost reaching your calf look at this it's drooping like it look at this can you see it yeah very much like the whole of this podcast uh yeah yeah i think this might just guys in case you're listening enjoying this may very well be the last episode we ever do

um based on how this is going uh here we go go go uh so yeah uh i think this could look quite nice on you yeah is it still dripping it is isn't it what the fucking hell man this is really

pissing me off now I've got to be honest sorry sorry guys okay how is it now let's just see

that's nice no it's dripping still oh my god have you got a nut in it that you can tighten up I've got I'm tightening I'm tightening No, it's dripping still. Oh, my God. Have you got a nut in it that you can tighten up? I'm tightening. I'm tightening, my guy.

Oh, no. What the hell's going... Hold on a sec, guys. I'm so sorry about this. This is so annoying. Okay. It's all right. Let's hold it. Let's hold it. Let's hold it.

Okay. We're back in the game. So sorry, guys. Look at that. Look at that. I look like I had a boob job there for a second. Can you see that? No, you've got all the nice pecs.

No. You look like a good boy. Thanks, mate. Anyway, what were we talking about? Oh, yeah. Holiday outfits. Yeah. That's what I'd go for if I was you.

Okay. Well, look, thank you so much. What training do you think goes well with a pair of like shorts and are you going are you going to a jordan vibe or if you're going out for dinner say with lisa and you're having a bit of romance it's always jordan ones yeah yeah nice uh or sometimes i tell you what i do wear during the day you You know those Adidas slidey things? Yeah. That you like to wear.

Crocs. Those ones. The Crocs, the Adidas Crocs, the Adi Crocs. Yeah. Very controversial shoe. A lot of people that see me wearing them go, I can't believe you're wearing those. They're horrible.

I love them. I love them too. I'm about that life. In fact, I'm wearing them right now. So in fact, I can show that, actually we're not going to put this on the thing, but I've got them on right now, mate. Look at that little bad boy. Mate disgusting um anyway thank you so much drunk llama for your email the we really this really is a piece of shit this episode okay uh next email is

from the frustrated fox yo hey wolf owl and assorted creatures my name's a frustrated fox and recently i've been having some friend group based problems which i'd be honored to receive your humble advice i moved to london 10 years ago from a smaller but by no means small city where i had a solid group of friends i've always kept in touch with i've always enjoyed going back to my hometown and always have a laugh catching up with people and i've been tempted to move back many times before however as we've got older we've all managed to improve our situations financially and are have a laugh catching up with people and have been tempted to move back many times before however as we've got older we've all managed to improve our situations financially and are at a stage in life where we're still young and have enough disposable income to essentially do whatever we want be it festivals holidays footy tickets or whatever i've always been keen to do

things uh and felt that my friends would be the same but every time we try to plan something it always seems to be going well until the last minute when any minor hurdle is taken as a reason to flake out and spend the weekend in the same pubs, clubs that we've been going to since we were teenagers. For example, a recent trip was cancelled on the day when railway maintenance meant having to change trains en route,

adding 20 minutes to an hour-long journey. Similarly, our holiday was spoken about for months and was cancelled because flights had gone up from £30 to around £40. Just to be clear, we all earn good good salaries my friends will happily spend this money many many times over on pints takeaways and taxes in any given weekend luckily i have a beautiful other half that i'm able to do some of these things with and i've always been very comfortable doing things solo if needed i have other less close groups of friends who are less concerned

by such matters but i would really like to enjoy some experiences with my nearest and dearest and feel very frustrated that they're willing to entertain the idea of being more adventurous but don't seem to actually want to follow through with it any help would be greatly appreciated love the podcast wishing you all the best tom davis what's your take on this my guy uh so uh i i think this kind of reeks of like a sort of weird anxiety, isn't it? Like I've got a group of friends that I've sort of grown up with, that I'm sort of still pretty matey with, although sort of, you know,

we've sort of slightly grown apart, but certainly through most of my twenties and early thirties, I was, we were very much in the same sort of situation of like, oh, we're going to do this. We're going to do that. And big sort of ideas and exactly the same. And when it came down to the brass tacks of it, it would almost just end up just like, oh, we're going to do this, we're going to do that, and big sort of ideas, exactly the same.

And when it came down to the brass tacks of it, it would almost just end up just being, oh, you know what, let's just hang around here. And what I realised was that there was a certain safety net in staying around the area that you're in and sort of actually sort of as, you know, geezerish or sort of as masculine as some of these guys were, the thought of stepping out and even as, you know, geezerish or sort of as masculine as some of these guys were, the thought of stepping out and even just, you know,

me and you, Ron, were brought up, what, 25 minutes away, half an hour away from sort of central London. Yeah. Even down to the point where we'd be like, oh, we're all going to go to the West End for a night. And it's so many times. We'd all get dressed up to go to the West End and you'd all meet in a pub

and invariably an hour and a half later you'd be in that same pub and everyone go oh fuck it let's just stay here it's easier to stay here and actually what you realize is that there was a sort of slight safety in in always just staying within those pubs in that area um and i think that that's just and a lot of my friends, weirdly, are the same sort of people that when I said I was going to do this as a job and I was going to go and do this, most of them found that insane that I'd go and do this and I'd walk away from the safety of the income

or the life that I'd led. I think some people find a comfort in a regular sort of style and a regular sort of regular life and I think that's okay I think that's it's there's actually quite something that sometimes I miss quite a lot about having being like that you know I think having that little bit of time where you go actually you know it's fine just to do this for a couple of weeks or it's fine and and life actually sort of going at that sort of pace isn't necessarily always a bad thing.

And I think you said it sounds like you're fortunate enough to have a wife or a missus, you know, another half, that you can go and do the sort of stuff that, you know, you can get out and about and you can go on foreign holidays and you can go and have different experiences. And you've also got other friends. I think that's what I realised as i sort of grow older that like life is essentially like a rocket taking off and so you need certain people to propel you up and as you sort of hit in other stratospheres sometimes people drop off a

little bit and they'll stay within that realm they'll stay at that little place as you rocket towards the next stratosphere or the next stage of your life it doesn't mean that you know they weren't needed or they weren't

the best part of you it just means that they found the place where they were happy and you just you carried on going you went in a different direction

and sometimes it's nice to just pop back and say actually you know I enjoy this but I think you know I think getting as much experience out of life is one of the most important things you can it's nice to just pop back and say actually you know what i enjoy this but i think you know i

think get grit and as much experience out of life is one of the most important things you can and it feels that you you're up for that so keep doing what you're doing do you my guy um can i just say thank you uh frustrated fox uh for this email because i think you've stumbled upon something i didn't realize was a thing but absolutely is and like my friends most of my friends who aren't my beloved Tom Davis

are from back home they're all from Crawley and we always do the same thing whenever we meet up almost exclusively and whenever we do something different which is rare we always do the same thing whenever we meet up almost exclusively and whenever we do something different, which is rare We always really enjoy it But to get everybody to a point where we're doing something different and like you said Thomas even something like going into London

Which isn't a you know, like it's not you don't have to get on the Eurostar Jimmy it's like a 35 minute train journey and you're in town We don't do it for some I don't know what I mean? It just doesn't happen. It's like there's this inertia of wanting to do the same thing. And then inevitably what will happen is everybody moans about how shit it is, what we're doing. Do you know what I mean? They just go, I can't fucking believe we're here again.

Like, what are we doing? Never again. Every night goes like that. And then what happens? The next time we go out, we do the same thing again. I loved your stratosphere thing, by the way thank you cheers thank you really liked it um what i would say to you frustrated fucks because you're after advice not us merely patting ourselves on the back for being able to relate to your email um is that um i agree with i think that you

you do those things with friends that want to do those things the truth is you can have a chat with your mates and go i wish that we could do more stuff like can we do something a bit different you could try and instigate it what i would say from experience is being that person all the time is very annoying it's just like you know whenever you organize something which i've tried to do in the past you get people who you'll they'll go yeah i'll come you book the tickets you pay the money then they drop out one by one. Then you find yourself dealing with a load of tickets that you bought for a thing that nobody's going to anymore.

I mean, you can't ask for money for something that people aren't going to. Do you know what I mean? So then you just have to take the hit. That's happened to me a few times. Mate, it's the worst. I happened to sell them to another group of people in the pub. And then a week later, here, what an amazing time they had a concert

that none of your fucking powers go to. And everyone going, cool, we should have done that in the end, shouldn't we? And you're like, yeah, we fucking should have. Yeah, we should have done. And I wouldn't have to be a fucking ticket out for the evening. I took a fucking £400 fucking pound here on those tickets. Anyway, I think you have a chat with them if that changes their behavior great if it

doesn't then uh i think you're gonna have to do what you're currently doing which is do that with your the mates of yours that are willing to do that and then it's just not going to happen with these guys um good luck i can understand why it's frustrating i am if it helps in the middle of uh trying to organize a trip to go and see Pusha T, one of my favorite rappers. I've organized it, and I'm sure that when the date comes around, I'll be going on my own. Or probably not going at all, having paid for 10 tickets. Good luck to you. So let's be clear.

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friendship and be a fly on the wall for the conversations i hope having in predominantly male spaces without going into too much detail, I was recently diagnosed with PTSD, resulting from repeated experience of being on the receiving end of some not great male behaviour since the age of 16. Last year, I finally reported two incidents that are being officially investigated, and it's been handled quite poorly. Sometimes I feel helpless. The easiest solution is to just become numb to it, even managing to get imposter syndrome with regards to my own experiences with assault.

It's been a really tough, lonely six months. Despite this, I try to go through life thinking the best in people, that people aren't actively sexist. They just don't understand how there can be differences between what they intend with their actions and how those actions are felt. When I have felt safe to breach poor behavior,

particularly at work, I've seen the power of the small conversations that just highlighting how people could be unintentionally marginalizing others can reap significant change and build the bridges to move forward collectively. I've ever wondered whether those conversations happen without us there, with men calling each other out.

Do we have people helping us fight the battle on the inside? Can it truly change? Your conversations and stand-up have genuinely brought me hope, have taught me that my dismay is misplaced, and that we have incredible allies helping us out. Thank you. Finally, my question. Even with the PTSD, I've just started dating again. I've struggled to figure out if and when I should mention my diagnosis I don't want

to scare people off but I know I have to take things at a slower pace any ideas how to broach the subject without a swathe of rejections PS not sure you're aware but most of the characters your heartwarming sign-offs in your heartwarming sign-offs are boys would be great to hear about a female ferret or a non-binary newt teaching us how to do you hype up our sweet sweet souls and hype up our sweet sweet souls please thank you egalitarian elephant tom davis whoa wows um yeah so um number one like yeah i think um i find it like you our conversations are sort of very

we're very earnest but it sort of shocks me on this like so you did an incredible

bit of stand up the other day we talked about it a couple of weeks ago right and we talked about Andrew Tate on this podcast

a number of times I talk about Andrew Tate on stage it's part of my work in progress. It's a great bit by the way, I love it. But my problem is that we both got trolled the other day about this very thing. Yes we did.

We both got quite aggressively trolled about it. We got called cucks, didn't we? Yeah, we did yeah yeah um and then after a gig the other night uh or going back a couple of weeks i've got a guy who sort of not he was he enjoyed a show he confronted me about that bit and then i ended up having a bit of an argument with him because he was an andrew tate fan yeah and he was similar age to us and i was we've had an email about we've had an email saying the same, by the way. Yeah. We didn't include it.

Yeah, yeah. But my problem is that, number one, that's just my perception of someone I think is fairly toxic towards... Look, we've been through this, right? Getting back to the lady in question, I think it's behaviour that has to be called out and it has to be spoken about constantly. And when you have someone like this and you have... I kind of i kind

of understand it when it's younger men and and like who are sort of trying to find their place and and the whole idea of sort of extravagant wealth and everything comes in quite alluring and and actually hopefully like you know you can talk to those people and then they realize actually sort of what a fucking absolute piece of shit he is as a human being. But when it comes to sort of guys who are sort of a bit more world-weary, I just don't get that at all. I also don't get the fact that you continually listen to this fucking podcast because we're certainly, you know, trying to sort of, it's a whole different message and it's a whole different fucking world that we're chatting about.

And I find it fucking madness that someone could associate or enjoy both fucking mediums myself. Anyhow, I've digressed slightly. I think when it comes to the situation that you found yourself in and it sounds absolutely horrific what you've been through to be subjected to such a difficult time that you're suffering from PTSD. I think that in any relationship, I think, certainly in mine with Catherine,

there was certain things that she spoke to me about very early on in the infancy of our relationship that were very personal, and that we'd only been together for a short amount of time. And I think that was almost a bit of a litmus test of was I going to be the person that she'd settle down with and vice versa, you know. I think you need to speak to them

and you need to speak earnestly and honestly and speak to them about what you've been through and what you've been subjected to and the difficulties that you've had and the hardships you've had and where you find yourself now with something as severe as PTSD. And I think if that person understands,

hopefully they do, and they can help you, you know, you can build a relationship together from there. If they don't understand, quite frankly, it's not the right person for you. And think that's the that's the sort of discussion to have and you'll almost have a sort of answer to whether you've got someone who's going to be understanding and decent and

the person that you truly deserve or or not and i think um you know it's uh i truly hope that is the person and that person's right for you and if if they're not, I have no doubt that at some point you will find the right person. I wish you well. And I send you love and I send you faith, my friend. Egalitarian elephant. Can I just say, well, I would echo exactly what Tom said there. First of all, with regards to whether these conversations are happening, men are having those conversations increasingly, but it's not happening enough and um you know that's kind of part of the reason why i i did that bit of uh

which was supposed to be serious a lot of people have like a lot of blokes got in touch going that's not very funny that in bit um it wasn't supposed to be but um the whole idea is is that you know we should be doing that more and i do think it's happening more so i hope you find some kind of solace in that that although it's not where it should be it is getting better um i would also wholeheartedly agree with tom i think you should tell these people straight away because one it will make them reflect on how they're behaving not that they're necessarily behaving badly when you tell them but just so that they're carrying that a little bit of extra kind of consideration for the situation you find yourself in.

And also, again, as Tom said, I do think it's a litmus test. If that person drops out of that stage, congratulations. Do you know what I mean? Like, that probably isn't the person that you want to be spending more time with. So, look, first of all, I'd say thank you so much for sending an email in that is obviously you having to open spending more time with so um so look first of all i'd say thank you so much for sending uh an email in that is obviously you having to open up in that way um and um i do think that it's something that you should be open about and if that leads to putting people off those people should have been put off i mean those people uh who are put off by that and not people

that you know you should be spending more time with so we wish you the very very best of luck thank you so much for your email tommy should we do one more my guy yeah baby okay this is from the caucasian shepherd uh i'm in need of some sweet sweet wisdom from you wise souls me and my girlfriend recently got engaged in the isle of Skye. Stunning! Would definitely recommend. I made the decision to get married as soon as possible. We really love each other and have been already dating for almost four years. We just want to get married and start our lives together. We have a date, the ceremony and a venue booked for October, but nothing else.

My lovely fiance, the Fallow Deer, is now having some second thoughts about the timeline of the wedding day. She's worried that we're rushing the process and are going to lose out on some of the quality of the day so she wants to push back the wedding to next april we would have five months to put the rest of the wedding bits if we start the original date which me being an optimist thinks is something we can definitely do i want to make it a special day for her but i also want to don't want to put too much on it that we have to wait another six months for it to be the perfect day i've never planned a wedding before so i need to know if i'm being ridiculous or not do you think october is possible or should you postpone also do you have any other wedding day wedding related tips anyhow it would be much needed my g's

uh just uh from the caucasian shepherd ps just some uh encouragement lads this podcast has genuinely helped me through some tough times i've shown it to men and uh i've shown it to me and women and they've both got a great deal i've shown it to both men I've shown it to me and women and they've both got a great deal. I've shown it to both men and women. Sorry, it's a typo. And they've both got a great deal from you to your proper representatives of kind and caring male friendships. And you're both proper role models of mine to keep up. Also, if I ever see you guys in person, I just want to apologize now for my blabbering, awestruck, awkwardness.

Big love, my guys. Bloody. Tommy D. Right. struck awkwardness big love my guys plenty tommy do um right i'd say you it's possible to um number one congratulations to you both shout out beautiful beautiful thing um and yes the island sky is an amazing place uh so i'd say yeah it's possible to um to do it to the new wedding in five months i think it's that of course it's possible i will say that like you i think i think it's probably one of those things

where you should work out, though, what is the reasoning? It's one of those times to sit down and work out what's the pros of doing it in five months and doing it in October, and what's the pros of waiting until next April, financially or whatever. I think when it comes to a wedding, personally, and what's the pros of waiting until next April financially or whatever. I think when it comes to a wedding,

personally, I think we had two years to prepare and actually at times I think actually weirdly if we'd done it a little bit quicker, we probably would have sort of, we had an amazing day, it was an incredible wedding, but I actually weirdly think you end up going over so many different things, in the second year,

it was just like, alright, well you know, da da da da, and trying to be, trying to overly go over stuff, I think, so I think it's just a conversation to have,

I think if there's any, like, I think as well, it's just an open chat, to have with your other half, I think, because, if there's any worry,

or angst, or fear, I think sometimes you, you know, it's just a half, I think, because if there's any worry or angst or fear, I think sometimes you, you know, it's just a lot, I think, to do really, really quickly. So I think it's probably just the first thing that you're negotiating as a sort of couple-couple that are about to get married. It's just making sure that you're both happy

with when it's happening and not feeling like you've got to do it tomorrow and it's got to be done oh my god you know it's just yeah an open chat um is always a good thing and just making sure that you're both as involved as you you both want to be in the situation rather than like you go well we need to do it for october and then being like well i want to wait till april and then feeling like you're doing it at your pace or you feeling you're doing it at their pace, whatever. You need to find that happy medium where you're both working towards a goal where you feel both as involved as one another, really.

I think with our wedding, Kathleen did a lot more. And it was, you know, the day was her sort of, she beautifully did everything I was pretty much just, oh, let's just make sure it's a free bar. But she's far better in organisation. And, yeah, so, yeah, yeah, find your medium. Congratulations. I hope you have an amazing life together. Keep doing you.

Keep being the sweet, sweet souls you are. Romski. keep doing you keep being there the sweet sweet souls you are romski um uh i think um first of all thank you for your email thank you for your kind words and your ps um i don't see the point in sticking to the original date really i mean i mean i know like if your other half wants to postpone and you're really in love and it's really important to her to have a big day then um i think just postpone it really do you know i mean i mean i get that you want to have the wedding day but if it's going to make it easier for her to have the day that she wants then um then you should go for it what i would say to caveat that is a lot of pressure can be

placed on the wedding day and really the truth, is it's not about the wedding. It's about the marriage. So I feel like it's fine to postpone it. And I think it's probably a good idea to postpone it. What I wouldn't want you to do is put so much pressure on that wedding day. Cause a lot of people find when they have a massive wedding straight after the wedding, they feel a bit depressed because like they've been building up to this big big thing and then it's done and then suddenly they feel like an emptiness so i would just say be prepared for that lisa and i

had a tiny wedding where we just went to a registry office two weeks after we decided to get married we'd like put the you have to put the notice in don't you so we did that two weeks later got married went to a pub um but i think we'll probably do it again at some point uh and do it bigger uh i imagine um so yeah what i would say is look my advice to you is don't put too much pressure on the perfect day it doesn't need to be the perfect day it is perfect because you two are getting married uh but if she wants to postpone postpone it what's the deal what's the big deal um good luck to you caucasian shepherd uh tommy d yo shall we do it i'm sorry tom sorry i got distracted okay can i just be absolutely

honest full disclosure i got distracted by a text from Lisa about the takeaway. I've got exactly the same thing. I'm literally looking out the window. Yeah, the takeaway from episode, the last episode. The last episode, yeah. Tommy D, can you please take us out? Lizzie Beth was a otter. She was the kindest, sweetest otter in all of the woodland. But as Lizzie, Beth, used to sort of pop around and chat to other people,

she realised that her optimistic way of looking at the world was sometimes blighted by others. For example, she'd skip and she'd lull and she'd laugh and start chatting to an owl, and the owl would complain about the lack of food and seeds that he could find to eat. Or she'd come alongside a fox who would complain about being shouted at and shot at by farmers. She'd also then sometimes dip her head into the water and chat to the fish, and the fish would say that there was a lack of food and the water was grimy and smelly.

These were all apt problems for people to have. But the truth of the matter is, Lizzie Beth had her own problems, but no one really ever asked her about them. She became so weighed down by other people's problems, Lizzie Beth, that she realised, actually, what is the true testament of problems and friendship? The truth is, it's really nice to unload. But that feeling of unloading should also come with the feeling of taking a little bit in of the person you're chatting to.

As Lizzie Beth found one day when she was bowling around and found a bunny rabbit. And as Lizzie Beth sat upon her little tree stump and said, it's been a hard old day, the bunny rabbit looked a little tree stump and said, it's been a hard old day. The bunny rabbit looked her in the eye and said, Lizzie Beth, why? And that's all she needed. Just what's going on with you, girl? What's up with you?

Remember, unload, talk, but also listen. And they are the fundaments of any good relationship, friendship, wife, husband, love, whatever. Why? Listen. Gotcha, baby. Do you know what, Tom? We've done so many of these,

and every week you never fail to deliver something brand new and also struggle to end it. Thank you so much for your i think i think i think the listener i'm talking about that's what i'm talking about keep doing you yeah i think so yeah keep doing you um one of the things that an accusation was leveled at the podcast and actually i uh responded to quite aggressively and then was criticized for my response to was that sometimes you play some misogynistic music on this. And I want to sort of do something to tackle the concern that hip hop is a misogynistic art form. Therefore, and partly because he started following me on Instagram and I got really excited.

We're going to play Taleb Kweli, Four Women. JT, can you play us out with that? It's a beautiful song. Take care of yourselves, guys, and each other. We love you very much. Takeaway time. Boom, boom, boom, boom. She said she a hundred and seven, just her presence was a blessing, and her essence was a lesson She had her head wrapped, and long dressed at, peeked out the back like an antenna to help her get a sense of where she was at Imagine that, living a century, the strength of her memories, felt like an angel had been sent to me

She lived from nigga, to colored, to negro, to black, to afro, to African American, and right back to nigga You'd figure she'd be bitter in the twilight, but she all right. She done seen the circle of life. If you have a problem, opinion, feedback, or anything at all, please email us at wolfalpod at gmail.com. That's wolfalpod at gmail.com. We'd love to hear from you, mainly because we don't have any content ideas. Thank you.