Wolf and Owl - S2 Ep 5: 40 Degrees & Santa Issues
Episode Date: July 20, 2022On the hottest day of the year, we’re talking… staying hydrated, a world without carpets, a universal secret Santa, picture-perfect Christmases, culturally sensitive penguins and Charles Dickens b...y the pool. Then, after a quick tally of seaweed responses from our listeners, we answer emails on confident beach swims, tube-train deposits, returning clothing and an unfortunate incident with a nightie. For questions or comments please email us at wolfowlpod@gmail.com - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch - https://wolfandowlpod.com/ A Shiny Ranga Production Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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hasn't been verified episode of the wolf and owl how delighted on the hottest day ever yeah in
history yeah yeah i just i went out for a little walk before we've done this Tom
just to get myself
really
yeah
went out for a walk
and even that was unbearable
what heat is it
busting where you are right now
I think it's
let's have a look
I think it's probably 30s
I think
how hot is it where you are
it's insane isn't it
yeah
I think it's
I'm actually going to be
in one of the places
that's going to be hottest today
where's that
it's going to hit nearly 40
in my house
your house is one of the hottest places well going to be hottest today where's that it's going to hit nearly 40 in my house your house is one
of the hottest places
well because I'm in it
baby
oh yeah boy
it's going to be
38
39 where I am
today
that's quite excessive
so guys
I know this is too
late for this advice
because this episode
is going to go out
tomorrow but
stay hydrated guys
you know
get that water down
you
I think in general stay hydrated
it's actually i tell you what it's to the point that these houses that we live in now aren't even
designed are they for fucking any kind of like this insane heat my house upstairs this is this
is this is villa weather none of us are living in villas no no but you need some palatial home
right i believe so yeah yeah yeah yeah i have
actually got tiles in the bottom of my house actually you've got you've got wooden floor
and tiling at your house we have got tiling and and wooden flooring there are no carpets in our
house at all what in any of the rooms no i have all carpet carpeted upstairs i i look i'm in
most of you i wasn't sure about it uh lisa is responsible for
the interior design of our gaff alongside the interior designer and she said romesh she didn't
say with this much drama actually she would never say anything with this much drama uh she said uh
we're not having any carpets anywhere and i've grown up with like believing that carpets are
a luxury item that when you go upstairs your little tootsies yes your little tootsies grab the pile you sort of dig your talons in as you're walking around
the bedroom or whatever that's what i always thought but listen i'm gonna be honest with you
i don't miss them mate if if i could live in a world without carpets i'd sign up for that i think
carpets actually will be one of the first things that the the ozone layer destroys not like what
does that mean well i just think that carpets will be the thing that first things that the ozone layer destroys. What does that mean?
Well, I just think the carpets will be the thing that,
I think we'll collectively get around together,
like, not like carpets can hear us,
but we'll stand and go,
look, mate, we've got to get rid of carpets.
Yeah, but what's that got to do with the ozone layer?
Because the heat from the ozone layer,
carpets are just unbearable now.
Do carpets make it hotter?
Yeah. I mean, I'm sure they do, but I mean, do they... There's a now to carpets make it hotter yeah i mean i'm sure they do but i mean
do they can't there's a difference between them actually making it hotter and then making you
consciously feel hot if that makes sense do you mean like i i think i don't think carpets are
doing this intentionally but i think they make every upstairs hot well i don't believe that
carpets have any intention at all well yeah but you know like the person who invented them right
lives through them right so the basically the person who invented carpets right he still lives through carpets you know
that's his i guess that's his legacy i tell you what i do i tell you what i do like actually though
about carpets although we don't have carpets but um you know we've got rugs in our house right and
yeah and lisa bought one of those um you know the carpet the rug
shampooer thing or whatever i don't think yeah i don't think i'll ever get tired of seeing how
brown that water is after you've you know that the satisfaction of seeing really just you know like
the when it goes up the thing and you see the strip being a different color to the other we've
got a rug where reggie's how dirty yeah no no let me let me be absolutely specific about this
um i'm referring specifically to the rug that reggie first uses is essentially his pissing mat
when he first arrived at our house uh it's not the idea that your your mats are absolutely filthy
yeah well the thing is is in the bedroom to be honest with you in the middle of the night
i can't be asked to find toilet so i just in the middle of the night, I can't be arsed to find toilet paper,
so I just wipe my arse on the rug.
I just drag myself on like a sick dog.
Like a dog with work.
Dragging yourself against the rug.
And then we get Lisa to go,
OK, it's been a few nights now, probably should shampoo this out.
And then she gets it out.
And you just say, oh, look how that brown just say oh look how shitty that water is
she's just rubbing your hair oh good boy you're a good boy aren't you
are you gonna are you gonna stop wiping your ass in the rug are you good no you're not are you
no you enjoy it didn't you poo poo in the night you're not. No, I like... You enjoy it, don't you? I like your poo-poo in the night.
I like the way it feels on my butt butt.
Just getting you some carpet toilet paper to wipe your arse with at night.
You know, one of my biggest worries about the ozone layer
and everything that's going on with this climate change
is there's a potential, right right that the north pole is going to
just go right yeah the north pole's basically in the kicking of its life yeah where am i going to
tell grace that santa claus lives well here's a question for you do you want to tell grace that
santa claus exists at all yeah of course i do do you i mean i sort of slightly envy well that is
generally the most stupid question i've ever had you ask.
If I was with you now, I'd put my arm around you and go,
are you all right?
Okay, all right, but can you just hear me out on this?
Go on, I'll hear you out.
You've got a chance.
Okay, so Santa Claus, the concept of Santa Claus
is a group lie that we all take part in, right?
And basically what happens is it's this magical man i mean i'm
not gonna i'm not gonna explain the concept of santa but the point i'm trying to make is i look
you don't know this yet tom you've not had the grief of this right of buying presents for your
children watching them open them and then and then thank this mythical guy from the north pole
i never thought you'd be this person no no listen listen and in addition to that there is an issue i don't want to get too
worthy about this but there's a issue of social inequality economic inequality to do with santa
right because different parents have got different incomes right and so santa is supposed to be the
idea of santa is supposed to be rewarding children who are good right or whatever and so what you get this situation is is that santa essentially prefers rich kids do you
know because like all of these people get these prisoners of santa you get a kid that gets like
uh like a i don't know i'm making this up now but like gets like a little lego set or whatever i
don't know and then you get another kid that gets a fucking bicycle and an ipad and a ps5 and that's
also from santa i just i sort of think what is the message that other kids getting santa much
prefers the other kid what do you think then there should be like a santa fund i think i think you
know how you do secret santa and you've got a 20 20 pound limit i think we should introduce that
across the board for santa yeah but also you could do like a Santa fund
where rich people put in more and we just like,
not like taxes, but you sort of...
Like a kitty, like a Santa kitty.
Yeah.
To be fair, I actually genuinely think,
and I'm not sure if this is right or wrong,
I think we should just actually get a Santa.
Just get someone, we vote basically,
we turn around, we go,
you know what, this person seems like he'd be a good Santa.
What sort of... So where would that person live person live well obviously hope for a little bit we'd probably
send them to the north pole to live so you'd send them to the north pole to live and on christmas
eve night they would deliver a present to every child in the world is that no no no no no this is
what happened right this is how i think we we actually deal with this because at the moment
it has to be looked at right because actually, you've made a very good point.
I shouldn't have jumped on you.
I feel bad about that.
Because actually, what you've said is...
And actually, it takes me back to school
because I was that kid with sometimes a smaller present
because my parents didn't have a lot of money.
So I completely...
I actually think smashed it.
Actually, now, I'd put my arm around you.
You'd tell me your point.
I'd hug you, shake your hand.
I'd walk to the nearest
bar strike off licence
and say what is your
most expensive bottle
of champagne
I'd bring the champagne back
and we'd just get on
a pistol and celebrate
we'd start drinking
the champagne
you'd put your arm around me
talking about how good
I am
what a good point I made
and then I'd slightly
misunderstand things
and go in for a kiss
and then you'd just
go whoa whoa whoa
whoa whoa whoa
whoa
let's finish this champagne before there's any kissing, sir.
But what I think is what could be quite good is if we all got together,
we vote this guy, all women, lady or man, to be Santa Claus, right?
That person is then in charge of literally the presents and stuff.
But what they do is they'll say to you and Lisa.
How can one person be in charge of all the presents, Tom?
It makes no sense. No, but then they say to you lisa via email and say look so why to me and lisa
no not just no all parents so me me and katherine for grace yeah and they say look this is this is
this is like i've collected all of the money by the way what's great about this is every child
in the world's parents has got access to emails this is good carry on carry on i love this go on
continue well no or a text yeah no and they've got mobile is good. Carry on, carry on. I love this. Go on, continue. Or a text.
Yeah, and they've got mobile phones.
Yeah, okay, cool, cool, cool.
Carry on, carry on.
I pity the tribes of Papua New Guinea
who are not going to be receiving it.
Do they even believe in Santa Claus, though?
Do you know what?
Excellent point.
You've absolutely pulled my pants down there.
So carry on.
Yeah, and then all the people
who believe in Santa
or have the same faith
that we do in Santa Claus,
this person gets in touch like
this person gets in touch and says yo this is how much we're spending now per child and then you go
what do you think the admin workload is on that Tom for one person well you'd obviously no but
you probably probably like see how it works and then get a bigger team yeah okay so how many what
what how many people do you think would need to be in a team to email every parent and let them know what their budget is for this year?
I reckon you'd probably start with 50.
50? For the world?
Yeah.
For the world?
Yeah, yeah.
For the world?
Mate, you've got probably six months of emailing to do it.
Six months, 50 people? For the world?
Yeah. How many do you think, then?
Well, I think this whole idea is bullshit, so I don't really want to commit to it mate at the moment i would say rough estimate
you'd need we're in a situation where you could lose like there's not much magic left in the world
ron we're on our fucking knees when it comes to a little bit of magic and a little bit of joy
that actually turning around and going that this is something that is actually good
and yeah and i completely agree with what you're saying i think you're you're very very your point and a little bit of joy. But actually turning around and going, look, this is something that is actually good.
And I completely agree with what you're saying.
I think your point is a very strong one, right?
But I don't want to live in a world where, you know,
turn around to Grace and there's not a Santa Claus.
That someday she finds a fucking, we're in a charity shop,
and she finds a picture of an old jolly fat man in a red suit with a beard.
She goes, who's that?
That's how years ago we used to have this mythical guy who used to drop presents off.
It was absolutely amazing.
The thought of someone who's that good and that decent,
we got rid of him because the world's shit.
Do you know what?
Actually, that reminds me.
I must remember to put out all our pictures of Santa this Christmas.
What the fuck are you on about?
Don't you have any pictures of Santa in your house?
Pictures of Santa?
Of course you have. pictures of santa in your house pictures of santa of course you have like on your christmas tree and like a picture like you know models of him and stuff
yeah like little he's talking about ball he's about christmas tree decorations yeah
yeah i don't i don't know i don't have a national gallery's portrait of santa claus
we have a picture of him we have a statue statue. A statue? Of course we have one of those statue things of him.
Don't you have that?
You've got to celebrate him.
How big is the statue, Santa?
Probably as big as from my elbow to my hand.
And where do you put it?
By the fireplace.
Do you know what?
That's actually quite sweet.
I like it.
And then we have a picture of him that goes above the fireplace.
Above the fireplace?
Like he's a dead relative to be fair the saddest thing of all is up until now that me and katherine have just been doing that
and actually as well it's a proper picture so it is just an old man
does it look like santa sat for a, the picture that you've got of him?
Yeah, yeah,
but it is essentially
just another old man
who's just got a picture
of an old man
dressed up as Santa
that we're not related to
above, yeah.
Oh, what's that?
It's quite beautiful.
I was just,
it's just a portrait
of Debenham Santa
we just have above the fireplace.
It's just,
we went to see him.
Obviously,
we didn't have kids at the time,
but Catherine sat on his knee and she really felt a connection with him, so we did a little picture obviously we didn't have kids at the time but Catherine sat
on his knee
and she really
felt a connection
with him
so we did a
little portrait
he didn't feel
so much of a
connection
he was in
quite a lot
of pain at
the time
he didn't
come back
next year
for some
reason
he said
he had
some sort
of mobility
issues
but I
think it's
a shame
to think
of like
we could
live in a
world without
him
we get rid of the Easter Bunny the Tooth Fairy well yeah Tooth Fairy but I think it's a beautiful, it's a shame to think of like we could live in a world without him. Yeah. Well,
we get rid of the Easter bunny,
the tooth fairy.
Well,
yeah.
Tooth fairy is another issue.
I mean,
these are all things that you've got ahead of you,
but Santa,
the other issue that you're going to have with grace is sort of deciding when
it is you're going to basically unveil that Santa's made up.
You know, I was one of the last kids in my school to...
My little sister found out Santa was the Santa truth before I did.
I think I was the last kid, at least in my year,
maybe my year and the two years below, that still believed in Santa.
That was my worry for our children.
What you don't want is your child to be the last one that believes in Santa,
is the truth of it.
Do you know what I mean?
Because that is...
I don't know if I agree with that in a way.
I know why you say that, but also, I don't know.
I think that sense of wonder.
Yeah, because what I needed as fat and with a lazy eye
is to also still be believing in Santa when everyone else knew the truth.
That's what I needed to be more popular.
That would have pushed me right over the top.
Oh, yeah, he's ugly, fat, lazy.
Yeah, but you know what makes him cool?
His still beliefs.
He's fucking gullible as well.
What were you like when you found out Santa was a real?
Well, I mean, this looks bad on my parents,
but what was your was your what was your
um before i get into this story what was your parents uh policy on corporal punishment what
do you mean did they ever hit you i feel like i smacked around the ass a few times with the old
man all right so so i'm from a sri lankan background where uh where where beating your
children is a little bit more kind of, it's a little more popular.
It's a little bit more fashionable, right?
So I remember my mum and dad,
by the way, this is like,
I don't want to suggest that I got the shit kicked out of me,
but my parents did hit me.
So I remember going to,
our parents took us to,
mum and dad took us to Hamleys, right?
And it was a lovely magical day.
And they said,
choose two presents
and we'll let Santa know
and we'll get him to...
So we chose our presents.
At that time,
everything was transforming robots.
So my brother and I
chose a thing each.
And I don't know how they did it
to this day,
but they managed to...
I mean, they must have gone
back to the shop
and it's not that magical, is it?
But anyway, the point is
they got those toys and that was what Santa was was going to give us but i didn't know this
at the time i thought santa was i thought they'd put in an order to santa i thought it's like
amazon or whatever yeah so they identify the things and then they get in touch with santa
anyway a couple of weeks later i find where they've hidden the presents in like in the spare room right so i then get my brother and i go to him
look at this and i show him the presents and then my brother being the loose-lipped little shit that
is fucking tells my mum and tells my mum and dad oh rome showed me where the presents were and then
my mum proceeded to give me an absolute ass whipping for ruining the magic of santa so so
my so maybe that's partly...
So this is why you've got the grievance
you've got with Santa Claus.
I think, do you know what?
Actually, I've never thought this before.
I've never put two and two together.
But as I'm telling you the story now,
I think this is clearly,
I've got Santa issues, do you know what I mean?
If there's one thing I want to do
before me and you leave this mortal coil
in which we reside,
is that I actually want to find someone
who looks like a proper real santa santa like like someone who's got a real beard and stuff
and actually really takes his shit seriously and like paying so like on christmas like christmas
eve sort of like in the early hours of christmas morning, I'll basically get Lisa to give me a spare
key to your house, and he
can come into your house
and then go to your bedroom and then sort of like
just like stroke the end of your toes
and then
you'll wake up and go, oh my god,
Santa Claus, he'll be, hello
rubbish, how are you?
Oh, fucking hell. And he's like...
By the way, i think you you once
again you've identified the one voice i hate worse than your impression of me by the way which is
noncy kind of old man god um i remember watching you as a little boy when you
when you found those presents that i left in in your parents' room, because I'd run out of storage at the North Pole.
Oh, right, yeah.
And then he sort of moves up and he strokes your hair.
It's like, one of the most...
Why is he stroking my hair?
Sorry, is he also a private school R.E. teacher?
No.
He's making you feel chilled and relaxed.
And he looks at you in the eyes and he says,
listen to me, we can all lose the sense of hope,
but we should never lose the sense of believing.
And then he pulls out a toy that you wanted as a kid
and he puts it on your chest.
By the way, what you've just said is such a massive contradiction,
but anyway, go on.
He puts the toy on your chest and he says,
sleep tight
little Ranganathan
and then
he sort of like
walks out
and then he goes
was he
finishes with
splashing on my tits
or something
no
but it's like a nice
maybe gives you a kiss
on the forehead
right
oh fucking hell
right
and then you're like
you run to the windows
and you're like
night dressed
as quickly as you can
right
little wee winky winky
costume outfit and you sprint as fast as you can you go theo charlie alex quick and they all
like get up and they run to the door and then like basically you see him outside and he's got
like 12 reindeer and his sleigh and he run dash run dash then no they can't fly but they just sort of like
run out of your
your garden
so I watched
I watched 12 reindeers
slowly pull an old man
out of my garden
and that's supposed to give me
the magic of Christmas
no but then he's got
glitter and stuff
and he's like
you know
maybe some pyrotechnics
it's a sad man
just fucking
throwing
throwing craft glitter
out the back of this
I think that that would be
quite a beautiful thing
yeah sure and like obviously he's walked snow through your house and stuff yeah yeah throwing craft glitter out the back of this. I think that that would be quite a beautiful thing.
Yeah, sure.
And, like, obviously you'd walk snow through your house and stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it's good.
Look, what I would say is, by the way,
before people start getting in touch with me and having a go,
there is nothing much better than your kids believing in the magic of Christmas.
Because I've always loved Christmas growing up. And then you sort of fall out of love with it a little bit.
And then having children. And some people keep hold of it it so i don't want to say this is exclusive to
people with children because like there's some people that do like keep hold of that thing but
i did find that having children made me it revitalized my enjoyment of christmas do you
know my it's a weird thing to chat about on the hottest day of the year isn't it this but
yeah so my my memory of christmas was my mum would get very anxious and very i think because we didn't have a lot of money and like
she felt the pressure of having a lot of people over on christmas day and like we're sort of
trying to make all that work i look back and sort of feel for quite a lot really but she used to
just be like like on christmas scenes sometimes and like you i was not an easy child it's quite sort of hyperactive she'd be like um that's it we're cancelling
christmas we're not having good if it was just like she literally just gets so like anxious
did she ever hold up that threat no no no no she always like we had a like lovely christmases but
i think you know what i
think it is and it's a it's a weird thing and now having a trip like a child myself and i think we
all suffer a bit it's trying to make things perfect and try and make things picture perfect
yeah and like giving people you put yourself under so much pressure to do that actually in the end
it almost just like if it's just enough people are going to be happy and
that's one of the most important things i think you'd like actually you'll remember that you'll
remember people laughing and enjoying it more you more than you will like things just being perfect
i think that's what we should all work towards in life a little bit more maybe yeah what a lovely
that's really lovely that's really nice have you have you have you heard have you heard about this um did you ever
read i read an article a few years ago about the idea uh of santa sort of the concept of santa
being essentially sort of a culturally biased thing because it's like a white by the way i'm
not expressing an opinion on this i'm just telling you what i read so the idea was that children of
all ethnicities are celebrating santa's a white guy basically that's that's the
issue and so whether you think that's an issue or not is by the by but this is what the article
suggested is that it's sort of a bit of a culturally exclusive concept having a white guy
being santa and so uh what which i got i got the logic behind it i i'm not personally that
bothered about that because
he's got to be something
well
he's from the North Pole
so I guess that's
yeah but
he's not from
is he from the North Pole
well
did he live in Norway
for a bit
and then he moved there
I don't
I don't know the backstory
I don't know the backstory
isn't it sad
that we know the backstory
of some fucking characters
that Marvel came out with
or Michael Corleone
we have no idea of where we've not even looked into why Sander ended up at the North Pole know the backstory of some fucking characters that Marvel came out with or Michael Corleone.
We have no idea of where... We've not even looked into
why Santa ended up at the North Pole.
Yours and my opinion
on how sad that is differs massively,
to be honest with you. I don't actually think it's
a big deal at all. In fact, I'm probably going to
forget that I don't know the backstory moments after
we log off this Zoom. But
the thing that she
suggested was that we have...
Instead of having Santa...
Because obviously, if you then make Santa brown or black
or whatever in this city, you've still got the same problem.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So what she suggested was that we replace Santa
with a Christmas penguin.
You know what?
I think that's a bullshit idea.
What would be better is if you had, like,
a Santa Claus version of the A team.
Talk me through it.
Or then you just have like four different people, male and female from different ethnicities,
right? So it's all culturally MVO, sort of basically you cover all ground with a little
A team and it's a squad.
Yeah. What would you call it?
Team center.
That's great. I like it. Really good.
And then you basically
they're all there
for each other
and no one feels
left out
yeah
it's literally
look society's
different than it was
and I think that
actually you know
you have someone in it
who's like
you have a trans person
you cover all
you know
so no one feels
left out
obviously
the good thing about that
is
obviously
you have Santa Claus
he's Hannibal
so he's still the leader but now his squad's grown yeah and I think the good thing about that is... Obviously, you'd have Santa Claus as Hannibal, so he's still the leader,
but now his squad's grown.
Yeah.
And I think the great thing
about that is
you wouldn't get people
kicking off about it,
which is ideal, really.
Yeah, I think people
would be quite chill with it.
Yeah, I don't think
people would be furious.
You wouldn't see a load
of really angry guys
getting furious about it
on Twitter,
which would be weird.
Who just got over
the fact that COVID
isn't... COVID's not real. There's no fucking be weird. Who just got over the fact that COVID isn't...
COVID's not real.
There's no fucking climate change.
Who will, by coincidence...
Sorry, Santa team.
Santa team, you say?
Fucking hell.
I'm not having presents brought to my children by one of them.
And then, by coincidence,
they've got St George fighting the dragon in their profile picture.
The thing is, look, I've got mixed feelings about it.
I sort of posited the Santa thing,
just to have a chat about it.
But I think the positives are,
it does make your children believe in magic,
which is nice to see.
My issue with it actually comes down to and i know i sound a bit
boring now so i apologize for that but this is my genuine opinion it it comes down to an idea i i
sort of have a slight issue with materialism really i mean which is like if you're good you'll
get a thing a present i mean i don't know look i've done it with my kids the whole way that but
but i i don't know how good i feel about that do you mean that like i don't i don't know if you're super charging consumption
do you mean it's a thing to aspire to i don't know i'm getting too fucking weird but you know
do you understand what i'm trying to get at yeah but also if you know if it was something more than
presence would have been yeah but we're too down far down the road now with the sort of
well he gives presents and that's everything we that's that that's the that's the story we've
given him but if it was a bit more about magic and decency and being good then we because actually
you know the saddest thing of all wrong is that you know you have all these religions you have
all these different ways of seeing but if santa claus stood for anything that wasn't just about
if he was just about like you know putting your arm around your fellow man on the 25th of December
and being with family
and that's what's important
and that's what he stood for,
that's probably actually
what it should have been about.
But essentially,
whoever came up with Santa Claus knew
that the only way you're going to get kids
to believe in goodness and decency
is you give them a fucking sign,
you give them a present
and you go,
actually, you know,
and that's the last thing
any of them remember. And as soon as the faith and the magic's present and you go, actually, and that's the last thing any of them remember.
And as soon as the faith and the magic's gone
and they get off that bus,
the real world hits in.
Yeah.
By the way, Theo is no longer part of the Santa crew.
But what I want to say is
I had a fucking,
I had a magical experience with Theo the other day.
Right?
So Theo is like,
as you know,
you know,
Theo,
he's 12,
almost 13 going on 18.
You know,
he's getting to the age now where he wants to hang out with his mates more than,
than he does us sometimes.
And,
but I,
I don't,
I don't really get that upset about that.
I think that's,
I want him to be,
you know,
all of us want our children to be happy.
So if that's what he wants to do, that's what he wants to do that's what he wants to do yeah but the other
day i went to his room and he said you want to play a bit of uh there's this game called fall
guys that he's into at the moment right so he said you want to play fall guys with me so i was playing
it with him and then what he did was he honestly man i've like it was so great and it doesn't sound
like a big thing but i fucking loved it he basically just started going through hip-hop tunes that he's that he's into and just playing
me stuff and going i've got some recommendations for you and we sat there and had like a 40 minute
kind of chat and interaction about new music he liked and stuff he's recommending me and then he's
going to be what stuff have you what stuff have you been listening to and i said and it was just fucking you know when you just like i think
life's best moments are things like that man you know we just have this little of course oh my god
he doesn't know it he just like after it finished he just went i just went tomorrow mate i'll leave
you to it soon a bit and i walked out and he went see you later dad he was just looking at his phone
i was like walking out the room just like i just had such a great experience with my boy. It's just so tragic, man.
I loved it, though.
Have you, every day since, just popped in and tried to do the same thing?
Yeah, that's the problem, isn't it?
Because you think, oh, that's going to become a half-hour thing every day now,
where Theo and I discuss music.
And it's like, no, Dad, sorry, mate.
It's a beautiful thing, man.
In a way that I wish that, you know, if it was a film,
me and the old guy that I paid to be Santa would...
Be sat outside the window.
Yeah, like looking in.
And he'd look at me and go,
maybe that's the real magic we were looking for.
And then what would you...
So why are you with him?
I've probably lost my sense of Christmas in a way. You're still paying this guy to sit outside my house, are you with him? I've probably lost my sense of Christmas.
You're still paying this guy to sit outside my house.
Even after he's done the first stunt.
You've just got him stationed in my back garden,
just looking through the window.
He's called me.
He said, you better come and see this.
Can you get to Ragged Ethan in half an hour?
No, but it's like, I'm probably a bit like Scrooge and you're like Bob Cratchit
in a way
which one's Bob Cratchit
he's the guy who works for Scrooge
why are you Scrooge and I'm Bob Cratchit
because like Scrooge is like the one
who's sort of like
he's like the sort of like edgelord
he's like the edgy cool one and then Bob Cratchit
sort of like
bloody hell give me a break the sort of like edgelord isn't he he's like the edgy cool one and then Bob Cratchit sort of like sort of
like
bloody hell
give me a break
I will accept that
I'm not Bob Cratchit
I do think I've got
a Cratchity vibe
what I would say
is there's nothing
scroogey about you at all
if anyone
if you'd be anyone
in the story
you'd be Santa
oh of course yeah
Santa or I'd be
the big ghost
who turns up
who's actually got
a heart of gold
that's a fucking
good book isn't it Christmas Carol I don't think got a heart of gold. That's a fucking good book, isn't it?
Christmas Carol.
I don't think I've ever read it.
No, it's a beautiful book.
I'll tell you what, actually,
Dickens is better than Shakespeare all day long.
I think I'd probably agree with that.
Yeah.
I think.
Having read no works of either of them,
I think I'm qualified to say...
Haven't you read any of them?
I don't think I've read any Shakespeare
outside of having to read it for... I've you read any of them? I don't think I've read any Shakespeare outside of having to
read it for some reason.
I've not read any Shakespeare
I can't remember.
And I don't know if I've
read any Dickens but
I love a bit of Dickens.
Really?
Yeah.
I love a bit of Charles Dickens.
Really?
I actually genuinely think
he's the greatest
storyteller ever.
Yeah.
I think Dickens
Great Expectations.
Brilliant.
Lovely bit of book.
I just didn't have that
in here.
And I'm sorry for pigeonholing you like that.
Mate,
it's something that I actually now proudly sometimes go on holiday.
I get an old beaten up leather bound version of one of Dickens' tales
and just sit by the pool and just crack it open.
Everyone's reading their new Fantango books or reading off an iPad.
I've got this dusty old book.
Yeah,
okay.
Yeah. Are you being real now?
yeah yeah
I love Dickens
you read
you read Dickens
by the pool
on your summer holidays
yeah yeah
I'll sit and read
a bit of Dickens
good that's good
I like it
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Okay.
Are you ready for some emails?
Let's do it, boy.
All ready.
Okay.
Oh, by the way, we've got a lot of people reaching out about the seaweed.
Yes.
So, okay, let me just summarize this quickly quite a mixed bag of responses to this thing so about i would
say it's about 50 50 so 50 of people well actually this is slightly more complicated than this i
would say 50 of people are like you and in sense that it's not seaweed yeah 50 of people uh don't give
a shit uh but what i would say is more people didn't know than i realized quite a few people
don't i just say something actually that might throw you actually i'd love you to let me hit
you with this do you know that one of the ways they get the seaweed taste to it yeah he's putting is putting dried fish on it. Now, for me,
seaweed is known as a vegan
stroke vegetarian option, right?
Right.
But there's fish on it.
Yeah.
So that's no longer
vegan or vegetarian.
No.
So that is actually,
for you,
they're not just
mugging me off,
they're almost more
mugging you off
with it as well.
It's worth you knowing that
before you start
running about town
running your mouth
what do you mean
running my mouth
no
it is
look
they fucking
I'm sorry
I can't help feeling
like you seem to
think I'm responsible
for the fucking
Chinese restaurant
industry's
seaweed policy
it's nothing to do
with me
I was just
pointing it out
I don't even eat
seaweed
don't you eat it no well any other vegans out there who do eat seaweed because
they haven't got many other options at a chinese restaurant you should know that there's six
i pity the poor fucker that's ordering from the local chinese restaurant can have some
plain rice and a bucket load of seaweed please please. What fucking order is that?
Why have you chosen that order?
Because I don't want any moisture to be in my system at all. I'd like to
completely dehydrate. In fact,
do you mind throwing some silica gel packets in there as well,
please?
I would love to be completely desiccated
by the time I Felicious meal.
But just be careful is all I'm saying.
All that glitters is not gold.
It's a fair point.
And sometimes that glitter is actually dried fish.
So be careful.
Okay.
So this email is from the Irish setter.
And he says, Wolfe and Al
insert paragraph about how great the podcast is here
it really is amazing
this is quite an uplifting one
I want to thank you in particular the email from series 2 episode 3
where you got an email about a couple on their honeymoon
and how he embraced his body to enjoy time with his wife
it changed something in me
I've always been a big lad
being tall helped a bit
in January 2020 was the lightest I've been in years and I was feeling good. Then Covid hit. Initially we didn't mind it as after
years of trying we're expecting our first child. October 2021 I'm on my heaviest. Covid, two
miscarriages later tells me I'm a comfort eater. However we've been extremely fortunate to welcome
a little baby boy into the world. I'm happy, the wait can wait. Anyway summer 2022 we're down in
our holiday home in the sunny southeast of Ireland, right beside the beach.
Going for a swim every second night, usually after 8pm when the beach is quieter,
and even then I walk and walk until no one is near me.
But today, something is different.
I've listened to the last two podcasts.
One about the guy on honeymoon embracing his body,
and then again one where the emailer told you both how hot you were
for who you were, not what you looked like.
It changed me instantly.
I'm now settled and relaxed after going for a swim at 5.30.m on the hottest day of the year and with the beach packed i walked
onto the beach put my stuff where there was a space right in the middle of a busy section
took my t-shirt off and went for a swim i feel amazing you both make a difference your listeners
can make a difference the moment i stop caring about my weight is when i have a real problem
but right this minute i feel feel just perfect. Thank you.
Wow.
How good is that?
I know.
That's incredible.
I know.
You are a setter, man.
That is a beautiful thing.
You know, actually, I've just been away for the wet winds.
And literally after that, I felt like after that nice email that we got and some of the sweets, I felt less worried about myself going through the beach after that.
Going down.
I felt like,
I think I actually feel like,
you know what I'd love to do is just get loads of people who listen to this
podcast and we all just run into the sea together.
That'd be fucking cool.
Um,
yeah.
Yeah.
That would be an amazing thing.
And then we all just go for a big old fucking,
like we get like a buffet on the beach
and we all drink and we laugh.
I'm struggling to think of anything I find worse.
I'd rather meet up with a group of racists.
Rob, that'd be an incredible thing.
Like we all basically get to the beach,
we get a spot and we're all laughing
and everyone's like the guy who I've got to play Santa. What are we laughing basically get to the beach we get a spot and we're all laughing and everyone's like
the guy who
I've got to
play Santa
what are we
laughing at
by the way
just all being
together in a
sense of fun
you can't say
we'd all just
be laughing
but what
is it that's
making us laugh
are we tickling
each other
together
but we all
get in different
cars and stuff
like everyone's
nodding at each
other's laughter
one of the most beautiful bits of this day, right,
is just we're all larking about in the sea, right?
You come up from underwater where you've just been,
like, you go underwater and you're joking about
and you're hiding underwater from everyone.
You come up and you're laughing.
And the old guy that I've hired to play Santa is there
and he just goes,
hello, it's a rat named Nathan.
And you just go, hello, it's a rat. And you just go,
Santa!
Like that.
And then he grabs you and you fall into the sea together.
And then we all like,
basically run out of the sea.
There's loads of cold beers
and Coca-Colas
and ice cold water
and some sandwiches
and crisps and stuff.
Yeah.
And someone's brought some seaweed
and we all laugh about that.
It's just like a nice...
Watch out for the dried fish, and everyone has a big laugh.
Yeah, I get it.
No, but what I'm saying is,
it would be a nice thing to do, a big team swimming event.
I don't know where we'd do it or how we'd get about it.
Can I...
We probably wouldn't have got it.
Yeah.
Can I...
First of all, I want to say thank you for the email.
It's great, and I'm great. It's great you feel good. And I do first of all, I want to say thank you for the email. It's great and I'm great.
It's great you feel good.
And I do want to say what I'm about to describe is a blip in my journey.
Okay.
But what I would say is since we got that email,
I can't remember whether it was last episode or episode before,
got that email about us believing that we were hot
or sort of having a bit more faith in us.
It has actually changed my outlook a little bit.
I felt more confident and i felt a bit better and i've also realized if you you know if
you talk negatively about yourself and how you look for long enough people start to believe you
do you know i mean i do believe that's okay however what i would say is you know without
pointing out any specific incidents uh that you and i are both in a situation where i think we're
on an upward trajectory
with regards to our actual physical appearance
and how we feel about ourselves.
You've lost a bit of weight, I've lost a bit of weight,
and you start to sort of feel a bit of confidence.
However, the problem that you've got is
that not everybody thinks about your starting point
and where you are now, right?
No, no.
So basically, what you do get is you do get a situation where like i'm not going to say
specifics but the long and the short of it is i had an incident recently where i thought i was
making progress and then somebody commented on how i look and i was like oh actually i i i i haven't
made as much you know i haven't made as much progress as i thought i had and actually i am
still a bit of a mess like i had a bit of a backward step, basically.
Yeah, but then you've got to look at it and think that that's on them to pass over.
I think it's fair enough to have negativity about yourself
and that you've got to fight that battle.
When other people just say stuff.
And I always find that hitting down thing quite unfair.
And I think it's not a good way to be
and I like
you always get sort of
like fucking
arseholes
just fucking
you know
that's life
but you should
you know the confidence
that
yo mate
do you know what
I think it's
you know
I know this is a small thing
you've put more pictures up
on Instagram of yourself
right
in nice
you've always
you're always looking good
you always wear nice clothes
and I think
when I see you doing a nice picture of yourself,
you did a really good picture the other day, and you look very cool.
And you made a joke about it afterwards, which is what we're always going to do.
But it was nice to see that you felt good about yourself.
And I thought, you know what, man?
If that old guy who we're going to get to play Santa was there,
he'd have felt what I felt too.
I'd really love us to have breakthrough moments
without that guy being there, he'd have felt what I felt too. I'd really love us to have breakthrough moments without that guy being there,
if that's cool.
I would say that there's
some occasions on my
development journey that I'd quite like him
to have not made it.
I'm going to check in the next time and go,
ho, ho, ho, rang-a-net.
Oh, actually, no, we already covered this.
Romesh feels loads better about doing selfies. What, wasn't I there? Oh, I think you, we already covered this. Romesh feels loads better about doing selfies.
What, wasn't I there?
Oh, I think you're in Tenerife.
I don't know if taking more selfies is a good thing, actually.
There you go, I said it.
No, look, don't get me wrong.
I think certain...
There's actually quite a link, isn't there,
to if you're feeling down about yourself,
down about things,
you just scroll
for instagram and you just look at stuff and you think the whole world is having a better time than
you but actually if you feel better about yourself and you feel a little bit happier and you feel
you you actually sort of it's like being at a party basically yeah right sometimes we're at the
party if you feel really low and shit about yourself you let the party continue around you
and you're just there where if you feel a little bit better about yourself,
you'll hit the dance floor
and you'll give it a little jig.
Yeah, you're right.
And I think that sometimes
we should all just remember that.
We should all just have a little jig, guys,
from time to time, okay?
Yeah.
Actually, wherever you are right now,
just do a couple of little dance moves.
Do you know what we haven't done for the last couple?
We haven't done a song.
Do you want to think about that?
No.
Oh, sorry, I thought you meant,
no, you don't want to think about it.
Thank you, Irish Setter, for your email.
I hope I didn't undermine that with my little blip,
but it is a blip,
and the truth is the fault was mine there.
I should have had enough confidence in myself
to go, fuck you, man.
Yeah, you should have.
You're not going to knock me off
my stride, okay? Go fuck
yourself, you fuck.
I would have loved to have seen that.
Okay.
This is from
The Crafty Penguin.
Dear Wolf, Al
Swan and Cat, lovely. I love it when we
all get addressed.
Long time listener, first time email i've listened to your pod the other day and confusion about the guy shitting
in the middle of the toilet i had to write in and tell you this story god sorry in advance for the
long email but i feel details of necessity in this case i was 21 years i just got my dream job
working in a photography studio on this day i had to go to the studio early to collect the equipment
then take it to a location house so i found myself on the piccadilly line about 6 30 a.m dangerous time
to be traveling by the way yeah very nice but you've had a coffee before the old for the old
internal cycle bit of an issue uh i walked onto the tube at the uh at the double doors turn left
and sat down opposite uh on the first seat next to the doors there are three other people on the
carriage a man sitting opposite me who i think was asleep a young man sitting the other side of the doors on the opposite side and a
lady down to the right down the right down the other end of the carriage the story focuses on
the young man he was around 24 25 suited and booted with a briefcase bag on his lap he was
visibly nervous and fidgety oh god journey goes on we get to king's cross and why did i say oh god
like that oh god um i liked it okay yeah this is a story uh journey
goes on we get to king's cross no one gets off or on our carriage the tube leaves the station
and it's at this point the young man stood leaving his case on the seat next to him and walked slowly
over to the pole of the double doors i didn't acknowledge this happening until the lady at the
end of the carriage shouted you left your bag at which the man opposite awoke i looked up at the
young man just in time to see him turn his back on me,
lean against the pole, pull down his seat trousers
and squeeze out the biggest log of shit I've ever seen in my life.
Wow, what the fuck?
Jesus.
Christ.
Two things to point out here.
You may or may not know, but the journey between king's cross and
caledonian road is one of the longest gaps between stops three minutes to be exact so i can only
assume he knew that and waited for that point two yes his ass was facing me and yes i watched the
whole thing from start to finish i couldn't believe what was happening once he was done it didn't take
long it was clearly already poking out and didn't take much encouragement he pulled his trousers back up walked back to his seat sat down and put his bag
on his lap and stared straight ahead no one moved no one said anything all three of us were just
staring at him i could only assume he's on his way to an interview and didn't want to shit his pants
but i would argue that there are slightly more private places to dump on a tube maybe in the
corner by the sink of fucking i just don't think places to dump on a tube, maybe in the corner by the sink. Fucking, I just don't think places to dump on a tube is a category.
No,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no.
Anyway,
I moved carriage at the next stop,
weirdly the one I was on,
absolutely stank of shit,
and I never saw the man or his poo again,
and never got on the tube at that time of day again,
ever.
Love the pod,
it makes me laugh and cry in equal measure in a good way,
and it's often the boost I need to set me up for a good day.
You two are fucking great humans,
keep it up.
Love to you all,
the crafty penguin.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold up, hold up. the guy who took the shit didn't get off the tube he sat there with it that's such a mad thing to do isn't it that's an insane so i
assume that he just sat there when people got in he just sort of pointed the part and i don't know
what's going on there absolute nightmare well he's basically got he's got a hope that all three
people that are on there i'm trying to i i want to empathize with the young man that did that because look i've been on a tube and
needed the fucking juice big time like you know fucking adrenaline or whatever and or it's early
or it's late or you've eaten too much and you've got the other top you've got the toe tap going on
and you're like oh fuck i don't know if i never in my life have i ever ever in any of those scenarios
thought i'm going to have to
just go on the fucking floor
on a chair
do you know
do you know the problem with it
right
is
for that guy
that did that
before you need a shit
like when you're desperate
for a shit
it feels like the most
important thing in the world
to the point where you're
almost
angry at life
for putting you in this position
yeah yeah
I mean you're sort of like
I can't believe this is happening
I'm just trying to get on with my life and now I'm desperate for a shit
somewhere I can't have a shit. It's horrible.
The issue
is
that as soon as you've had that
shit, all of that emergency feeling
disappears and now
you're a guy that's taken a shit in the middle of a tube.
I don't know
what that feels like.
How would you pick it what what what are you doing look like i'd have probably looked in
my briefcase for something okay what what do you think suitable for removing one of your own shits
like a plastic bag what do you think looks more mental shitting on a pole and then going and
sitting down or shitting on a pole opening your briefcase taking that shit and then
putting it into your bag i think genuinely i'd have more respect if i saw someone pick it up and
put in their bag like they're pooper scooping themselves yeah yeah we do you do it for a dog
without any question yeah yeah the dog shat on it you know like just leaving it there because at
some point rom at some point my friend someone's going to... He's done it in the middle
of the fucking carriage. At some point,
someone's going to get on that fucking tube
like literally anything could have happened to them
that morning and they're going to stand in a
big fucking juice and it's not
going to be a good fucking look.
Do you know what that is, mate? A slide of
doors there. What do you mean?
Well, he's done that. That's his day, right?
Like you said, that shit has a journey from there there there's a fucking journey one way or another he leaves
that shit there he gets off that's a long line it's one of the most well-traveled turds in london
probably yeah and then someone treads in it yeah so they're going to he's going to an interview he
gets because he's had his shit yeah right he feels great light on his feet spring in his step yeah
then some someone gets on there she's got an interview say and she's like in her fucking out his shit he feels great light on his feet spring in his step yeah then someone
gets on there
she's got an interview
say
and she's like
in her fucking
lovely shoes
she's all
immaculately dressed
and she gets on there
she's feeling good
about herself
then she treads
in the shit
then it's a game
changer for her
she doesn't get the job
her life falls to shit
and before you know it
you're back to the
situation we talked
about at the top of the show
where you haven't got
you're giving your kid
a crappy present
from Santa Claus because you trod in a human shit on a fucking Jew talked about at the top of the show where you haven't got you're giving your kid a crappy present from Santa Claus
because you trotted
in a human shit
on a fucking Jew
next thing you know
she's on
and that's the circle of life
play it or jump
she's on the
play what
play it or jump
circle of life
okay
don't worry
thank you for your email
hold on
let me just double check
what was his name
the angry penguin
crafty penguin
crafty penguin
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Dear Wolf, Owl and the rest of the fine menagerie,
firstly, thanks so much for all the advice, fun and grammar lessons, brackets Owl.
I recently had the zip go on one of my favourite jackets. It was was four years old i tried my luck and i went to the shop and
long story short walked out with a brand new jacket i've also done the same with backpacks
and things do you think i'm a cheapskate prick or is it a case of if you don't ask you don't get
have either of you had a cheeky refund or a really good blagging experience keep up both the work on
the pod in tv and stand up the live show. Ah, thanks for coming to the live show. All the best to
Grumpy Fox. Tommy D.
Well, actually, this person is an
absolute legend in my mind.
Well, for taking a jacket
back after four years and get...
Like, I just...
If a zip goes on anything,
that's like, it's a sad moment
because it could be one of your favourite things.
But then you put it to your clothing, you know the sort of a graveyard of clothing right yeah you know you just
basically say that you're not even good for a charity shop now old friend you know i mean and
you just sort of like mourn it for a little bit to actually the thought of taking it back
to the shop you got it for four years later and saying that this is bust and then get a new one that is it but i literally i have nothing but absolute awe for this person yeah i'd like to
just look them in the eye and say thank you thank you for being you yeah and actually you know what
it because if they took it back hopefully someone fixed they're helping the environment as well so
obviously like someone fitted the zip like fixed it and then boom you know that jacket goes on like the poo did but in a more you know celebratory manner um have i ever done anything like this
yeah i've i've blagged a few things over the times i've not yeah you're one of the country's
finest blaggers yeah i've played a few things here and there but never i've like now i look at it and
think there's three or four there's a couple of good nice pairs of trousers couple of jackets that i wish that i'd known about this from the crafty fox or the grumpy fox yeah
and just basically being able to go back and go yo this is broken where did you buy it seven years
ago i think i'll probably get away with that i'm now thinking if i've got anything lying about that
is broken i could try this with uh okay should we do one more let's do one more very uh this is from the gecko uh hi tommy rommy swanny and the cat please keep me anonymous
bit of a weird one so just going to get straight into it beneath the guidance of wisdom of the
wolf and the owl for some background to my shoe my partner is a fairly petite five five and by
coincidence it's pretty much the same height and build as my mum my parents are fairly well to do
and my mum's got more clothes and she knows what to do with they recently moved house and as a result my mum was
very kindly gifted some clothes to my partner some of them unworn and with tags on cut to a few
nights later me and the missus heading to bed and when she changes into a skimpy little satin nighty
thing i didn't write oh god uh don't want to serve this show blue but let's just say it got the motor
running and one thing led to another the next the next morning at breakfast i brought up the night
the next the next morning at breakfast i brought up the night Oh, God.
The next morning at breakfast,
I brought up the nightie and asked her where she got it from.
I imagine quite hornily,
based on the fact that it's given you some action.
Yeah.
She replied,
oh, it was one of the bags of clothes your mum gave me. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That is so dark. oh my god
that is so dark
this took me back
this took me back
this took me back a little
so I asked if it was new.
I had tags, and she said no.
Oh, no.
But your mum doesn't.
No, but your mum doesn't wear it anymore.
It began to dawn on me that the night before
I'd essentially had sex with my partner
who was wearing my mum's skimpy pyjamas.
This got me feeling a bit funny and got worse
when I realised my dad has probably shagged my mum
when she was wearing them.
My God.
Now, I'm trying not to see this as a major issue
because, let's be honest, they're just clothes,
but I can't now separate my mum from the pyjamas.
And I've also had several helpful comments from friends saying,
you've basically fucked your mum.
Oh, my God.
I'm hoping for a bit more maturity and wisdom.
Oh, shit, we've absolutely fucked that.
Hoping for a bit more maturity and wisdom from you chaps.
How do I approach the situation with my partner
and how do I move past this?
Oh, okay.
Well, number one, I would say that you can't, you know,
you've delved into the,
yeah,
the realm of like doing this once
with the pyjamas.
I'd say the pyjamas
probably have to go.
Yeah.
I wouldn't say
there's any too much stigma.
Like you haven't,
I think,
let's face it,
your mum has got
a great choice
and a great,
you know,
a good eye for
sort of sexy lingerie.
I don't think this
is where this guy wants this to go but anyway go on no no no but i i know i don't think you should
feel bad about that i think it's like it's it's a kind of strange thing to pass down anyway isn't
it pajamas or i didn't think i thought that there was like isn't there a hygiene issue not hygiene
issue but you know yeah but i also thought that that's the one thing we you know like if
you were to give me
a bag of clothes in
that was a pair of
couple pairs of
underpants right
I'd be like
probably probably
sniff them and then
put them in the bin
would you
keep a couple of
the spicier ones
check the back of
them but I thought
society wise we
never you know
that that stuff was
all just kept
yeah i thought so yeah it's like a one owner sort of fucking situation like dog not it's just not
for christmas kind of vibe but i wouldn't feel too bad about look you know you could look at it
two ways right you there's a problem there's a way of looking negatively but also positively
like you know you realize that actually you know a little bit of sexy underwear
really gets your engine going so what i'd say is just look at the positives and get out there and
you and your missus you know go go underwear shopping together and sort of like yeah yeah um
gecko um what i would say to you is you've done nothing wrong you had no idea and your girlfriend's
done nothing wrong because she didn't know it was going to
be such an issue for you okay so it's an accident okay it's an accident i would agree happy accident
yeah you had sex great congratulations um what i would say is uh the night he has to go
uh 100 psychologically you need and don't give it away throw it away yeah or ceremoniously burn it
or whatever you need to do to get that cleanse from your soul and then secondly embrace the
fact that as tom said you like that kind of stuff so maybe you could you know go shopping together
and buy something that you both like that you can uh enjoy uh one evening or even the daytime i don't
want to dictate what time of the day you have sex but you've got yourself a funny story out of it it's hilarious and one of my favorite emails
yeah it's a great email so you know i think celebrate that yes it's a bit embarrassing
but what a fucking story i mean it's hilarious man do you know what i mean like it's brilliant
so nothing negative has come out of this yes you've got a bit of piss taken from your mates
but that is fine, man.
Like Gecko, I'd like to say,
if we ever do the beach swimming thing,
we're all running out of the sea
and you just come walking over to Rom
and you're like, I'm the Gecko.
And Rom just does that laugh,
that mad laugh he does.
And then we crack open a beer
and then, yeah, we just all sort of chat about that.
Yeah.
And then Rom, maybe, to make it less spicy, Ron turns around and goes,
any chance of getting hold of that nightie you sent them out?
What's wrong with you?
What?
That was insane.
Like, that could be quite a sweet moment.
Yeah, it could be.
It sounds really sweet.
But Gecko, listen, man, I'm sorry that you went through that,
but you've done nothing wrong, bro punishing yourself okay tell your mates you're
a g yeah you're a g tell your mates to fuck off okay tommy uh okay so do your thing my g yo hit
it up mix it do what you've got to do in life just the the other day, I want to shout out to a young man who, I was in Chichester and he stopped me and he said that he'd been listening to his podcast
and he'd been recently, he'd been through quite a lot of, he'd been quite ill
and how much he enjoyed listening to the podcast.
And he was a very sweet young man and I spent a little while chatting to him.
I just wanted to say it made me think about passing along good words
and positive vibes.
And I think at the moment where we are in this mad heat
and I think like, I don't know about everyone,
but it feels that as a society people are reaching out a little bit
and making sure people are okay.
It feels that as a community as a society when
when we get into these little fucking situations it feels that actually we do we can become better
people we can become and i think that's that's probably the i think my thing to take away from
today take away from this last week or so is the actual positive positivity i was in you know i've
talked about here in quite a dark place and actually chatting to that guy and a few other people and the few emails we've got, positivity spreads.
It spreads like anything.
And I think if you can do every day just one decent thing
to one person to put a smile on their face,
it goes a long, long way.
So there's no big sentiment, no crazy characters in this week.
It's do something good for someone you love
and they'll do something good in return.
And the world turns.
And that is the message of today.
That's really lovely.
And can I just add to that two things very quickly
off the back of that?
It was beautiful, Tom.
Hit it, baby.
Is I was at the gym the other day
and a guy came,
but a guy saw me and kind of looked like
like he lost his mind and he walked over to me and he showed me his phone and he was listening
to the wall for now and he said i just want to say thanks for the podcast and can i just say to
that guy i didn't get your name but you made my fucking day man i mean like it was just such a
wicked and i texted you about it didn't i and said like but but but the reason i mentioned it is one because it made me feel great but um i think
we talk about gassing people up or not not gassing people up but giving people a boost
if somebody you know is doing something good or there's something you admire about them tell them
i think it's a really positive thing to do uh take me through what tom's
saying and i'm not talking about making shit up i'm talking about once a day maybe telling somebody
something good that they've done or thanking somebody for something they've done i do think
it's like a fucking great thing to do man i really really make sure you and it will you'll feel better
as well yeah you will do and to our end uh jt yeah go play us out with my favourite song of all time, Unpretty by TLC.
Okay.
So thank you so much for listening to The Wolf and Owl.
Take care of yourselves.
And listen, as we play this song out, remember, you're not unpretty.
You're beautiful.
You are beautiful.
Love you guys.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye. but if you can look inside you find out who am i to be in the position to make me feel so damn
pretty
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