Wolf and Owl - S2 Ep 54: New Wi-Fi & A Bonus Show

Episode Date: July 10, 2023

After last week’s internet dramas and shortened show, we’re kicking off this week with an extra episode! We’re talking… dressing room pressures, mistaken identities, pod reviews and Insta poll...s, ‘Richie’ Sunak, the greatness of Glasgow, being back in the Wi-Fi game, hobbit furniture and pizza pioneers. Plus, a W&O trip to New York and an email question about not liking birthdays. We'll be back again as usual on Wednesday… For questions or comments please email us at wolfowlpod@gmail.com - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com/ A Shiny Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: HELLO@KEEPITLIGHTMEDIA.COM Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:54 on sweet sweet wi-fi unfortunately my microphone's not working i'm in a hotel i'm in glasgow doing the weakest link mate can i just say by the way your room looks delicious that you're in very like cool open wall space do you know what I feel like I'm sitting in like an incel mate you look cool not as cool as by the way Mercer your new dressing room that
Starting point is 00:02:18 you've wangled yourself from the weakest link that is a sweet sweet listen that's not my dressing room. Okay? By the way, you've got this little habit of throwing shade whenever I post something on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Not always. Sometimes I say something really sweet. Look, you big-dicked it. You were like, look at this fucking sweet crib that I'm in. No, that's not what I said. That's not what I said. I turned up to a meeting for weakest link
Starting point is 00:02:45 and nobody else was there so i took a photo and i put it up there and then you've like gone oh someone else must have been there to take the photo right or did you get no who took the photo i did a little time oh my god you right you just did a smile like a puppy used to shat himself for the first time he's done a poo and you used to shat himself for the first time he's done a poo and you're somewhere caught between it's the first time
Starting point is 00:03:09 I've used a photo timer really I use it on my watch quite a lot I did a watch one it's quite a sweet sweet feeling of getting a good picture
Starting point is 00:03:17 yeah but then why did you react to me doing it like I'd committed some sort of sex crime no because I don't do it in big fucking like essentially like you have got that room by the way is one of the nicest rooms i've ever seen
Starting point is 00:03:29 in my life and that's where you'll have your meetings yeah but it's a banging room yeah that's the room that happens like you're making it like i've demanded that room i'm not demanding that room that just happens to be listen i know how shit goes down when romesh rangonathan rocks onto a show he's like, where's this meeting happening? Are we going to be in A1? Let me see A1. This is A1. I dread to see what B2 is like.
Starting point is 00:03:53 First of all, you and I both know, as is your habit to say the almost direct opposite of what's true, as you know, I turn up on set or to a studio like a fucking competition winner. I know you do. Excuse me, excuse me. as you know, I turn up on set or to a studio, like a fucking competition winner. Excuse me. Excuse me. Um, yeah,
Starting point is 00:04:08 I know I'm, um, I'm here for the weakest. What's that? Oh, my past isn't okay. Well, I'm going to wait in the car park.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Like if, if, if you could let people know that I would like to do the show. I know that even you sit in on that sofa a little bit, if you died, cause you were just that this room is too nice for you. It's so bad because I remember like when I first started gigging and like when you first do, uh,
Starting point is 00:04:34 I think we talked about this, but like even the idea that somebody would pay for your accommodation, go and do comedy. It's amazing. So, so now when I like, I dunno, I almost feel like, do you know what this is
Starting point is 00:04:47 this is my psychology in this right is the nicer people treat me and on this show and in a lot of most tv jobs you get treated i would say probably far too nice than what for what you deserve right bearing in mind that like we're doing you know we're doing a fun job what i would say is the nicer people treat me the more i worry about what i have to deliver in the actual job that's the honest truth of it i i almost feel reassured if you're treated like crap because you just sort of think okay well i just do the best i can if you get really well looked after yeah i start to get nervous i started to think like oh wait because the pressure gets you've got to perform yeah yeah then you're just thinking uh that this is a level of treatment that somebody that's better than me at this
Starting point is 00:05:27 deserves. Yeah. I find that with gigs, sometimes when you turn up and you're doing like a show in a small sort of quite a nice little beautiful little town somewhere in England and you rock up and they've laid on the work. Like I turned up at this place, this place oddly and they laid on everything it was such an amazing gig and the pressure that i felt then to go and perform because
Starting point is 00:05:51 the people running the gig had laid on like cream tea it was just an amazing thing everything and i then i had a panic attack because i just felt like the pressure was just going through the roof to actually perform by the way as you're talking i have to uh i had an awful moment today um i was coming out of a meeting uh in a restaurant and uh i was just coming out i was went to the toilet and i was just coming out uh a guy from television was coming into the toilet a guy from television yeah no like who works in tv that mean and you both know, right? Okay. Can you just say the name
Starting point is 00:06:28 and JT can bleep it out? No, this is where the story goes. I thought for some unknown reason, 100% categorically that this person
Starting point is 00:06:39 was Jack Shalacar, right? I know Jack Shalacar. I love Jack Shalacar. I've been away with Jack Schlaiker numerous times and he's one of
Starting point is 00:06:47 my favourite people. With work. Yeah, with work, never social. He's never invited me
Starting point is 00:06:51 anywhere near his house. I mean, I think you'd have to go out first before you went away together.
Starting point is 00:06:57 But yeah, go on. For some unknown reason, I think this person, he doesn't even look like Jack.
Starting point is 00:07:03 He comes in the toilet toilet he starts to have a bit of a joke a bit of banter we have banter back what does he say just basically about us meeting in quite a close proximity in the toilet right and then i'm like and at this point you think it's jack right yeah and i turn around and say um i'll make a joke about and the guy sort of looks really awkward right really awkward and then i sort of double down and sort of like mate talk about dublin when we're out and as i'm talking to him i'm like this isn't jack shaleka why do i think this is jack shaleka like like they both work in television
Starting point is 00:07:39 but so anyhow they don't look that dissimilar but i know obviously now and then the guy starts talking to me about other TV shows that he works on. And I'm so embarrassed. I sort of start getting a bit flustered. I think I've agreed now. Does he know at this point that you've got mistaken identity? Yeah, he clearly knows.
Starting point is 00:07:57 And it's embarrassing for both of us. And have you openly said it? Have you openly acknowledged that you've got... No. You know when you're in a situation, you've ever sort of like seen... Yeah yeah i mean it essentially someone who's got someone completely i've got the complete wrong person and i'm now doubling down and having a laugh with it trying to have a joke with him then i try and get out of the bathroom as quick as i can because i feel so embarrassed i start my back is sweating i'm so embarrassed by this at this time and he's trying
Starting point is 00:08:25 to nullify it sort of by almost making a joke out of the situation but I there's a decent thing
Starting point is 00:08:33 he's an incredible human being he's an absolute legend of a man but yeah now I feel like he's going to
Starting point is 00:08:40 just walk away and go oh my god why was he having this much banter about a show I don't work on? And then someone's going, oh, you probably think it's your son, so. Jack Slaker.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I feel really embarrassed. I don't know. And now I want to reach out to him, but I don't kind of know his name. Well, maybe you should text Jack. I know someone he works with. So I might text him. I mean, is it weird to text? How bad is it for me to text
Starting point is 00:09:05 the person that me and you both know can you first of all you haven't given me enough detail about because what's happened is okay
Starting point is 00:09:13 the guy's this bit needs to be beat up because I feel bad about this alright but let me tell you what's happened here is you've gone into the story
Starting point is 00:09:21 your arse has completely gone and now you've you've realised midway through. I'm not sure if... Look, so listen, the guy works for... Oh, God. Right, he's a producer on... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:33 So he's a good friend of... Right? OK. I can't remember the guy's name. There's a passing resemblance to Jack Sulejka, right? So when I sort of joke about... and thinking it's Jack because me and Jack
Starting point is 00:09:46 have a very good relationship and a bit of banter, I'm then thinking that's Jack. You don't have that great a relationship. You don't even fucking know when you're talking to him or not. Mate, you know what?
Starting point is 00:09:53 I'm thinking I'm giant alumni. I've got face blindness. Have you seen this thing? Well, I have seen the clip, yeah, but it feels weird that at this point in your life you've got face blindness with one particular person. I mean, it could be the fact I'm three guinnesses deep. Okay, fine. Yeah, but it feels weird that at this point in your life, you've got face blindness with one particular person.
Starting point is 00:10:09 I mean, it could be the fact I'm three Guinnesses deep. Okay, fine. I mean, the fact that you're drinking three Guinnesses back to back is incredible to me. Also, maybe because I've got a bit of faith in my eyes on what they usually are. I've got a little bit. I don't know if it's like some of this glaucoma-esque feeling to my eyes. Sometimes, when you're already working and doing bits and pieces and you tell me that you know you want to be at home more and and you know katherine's like you know struggling a bit because she's having to look after grace with you
Starting point is 00:10:34 being away or whatever do you know i mean as as is often the situation i feel sorry for you then you tell me that you've come out of a lunchtime meeting in a restaurant and you're three guinnesses deep and i start to wonder what the fuck it is you're doing whoa whoa whoa can I just say be careful riding that high horse my friend oh wow wow be careful
Starting point is 00:10:55 galloping through the fucking town in your fucking big high horse yeah butt naked like Lady Godiva. It's a fucking pedestal that you've made yourself. Yeah, but, yeah, so look, this person works with... I know he works... That's where the conversation then drifted into. We start talking about that show.
Starting point is 00:11:21 If we can beat those names out, it would be good, because I feel slightly... I mean, I don't know if that's bad. would you want to bleep the name the name of the show i don't know what we bleep and what we don't yeah because if i'm honest with you at this this time i don't know what's yeah i don't know where we're going with this i just feel deeply embarrassed and sort of yeah and at the moment if i'm honest with you the way things are looking there's a better chance i was going to get booked on the next series of **** than ****. Okay, we'll have to beat both of those up.
Starting point is 00:11:51 You're giving JT quite a bit of work to do here. I know. When's this going out? Tomorrow? No, it's going to go out Monday. Oh, sweet, sweet. That's good. Well, hold on.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Yeah, I don't think it's going to go out tomorrow. JT won't be able to do it. Anyway, why are we talking about the logistics of this on the actual broadcast itself? Right. Dear God. But yeah, this is where I'm at in my life. How is Glasgow treating you?
Starting point is 00:12:17 Is it sweet? Well, I can't get into specifics about lineups because I don't think it's been announced yet. Although a lot of people that have been on it have been posting. But what I would say is, one, I do enjoy doing the show. Yeah. I would say, you know, this is full disclosure. One of the things I've got to say before I get into this,
Starting point is 00:12:36 because it's going to influence how I talk on this, is I happen to look at the Apple reviews of our podcast. I don't know if you've looked at that. I don't look at them now because one of them just sets me off and it actually spars my whole week into actual dog shit. Most of them are very positive, actually. I slightly loathe to actually mention that I read them because when I talked about somebody complaining about me eating on the podcast,
Starting point is 00:13:03 quite a few people sort of dipped in because I think they wanted to. Yeah, but also now, by the way, I did get a message saying that we shouldn't do a mukbang video episode. Why? Because they find it disgusting. So what I'll say is the mukbang will be, we'll do a mukbang one, but it'll be a special. It won't be.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Can I just say in response to that, right? In response to that right in response to that somebody going you shouldn't do a mukbang episode because i find it disgusting the correct response to that is if you do a mukbang episode i i won't i probably won't listen to it because i find it disgusting the response isn't don't do a mukbang episode okay all right that that is not because you don't like it that doesn't mean that we're not allowed to do it maybe you know what we should do is be more interactive and do an instagram poll and see how many people want a mukbang episode well do you know what i find those god you've caught me in a bad way yeah you've uh i find those instagram posts you know people go
Starting point is 00:14:01 vote yes if you i think we've done this before vote yes if you'd, I think we've done this before, vote yes if you'd like to see more episodes of this. Obviously, everyone's going to fucking vote yes. I mean, it's just like, it's basically like
Starting point is 00:14:14 a social media wanking exercise. No, but this is quite a big thing to go on an interest in how many people want the Muckbang special. And then maybe
Starting point is 00:14:23 we could throw it out like you do one of your wacky videos, where you come out from the back of that big couch that you've got at the office, and you're like, Hi, everyone. It's me, The Owl,
Starting point is 00:14:33 a.k.a. Romesh Ramganathan. What kind of food would you like to see us eat on the mukbang? Why did you say Ramganathan? Huh? You know, I've taken my... I'm on a neo new invisalign and i think they've affected my speech what does that do it makes you unable to say asian names no i've never had a problem but yeah yeah i think i got excited yeah you got very excited because you're putting the boot in it's like it's like it's so weird it's like I'm in the fetal position on the floor and you'll give me an absolute shoo-in and you can barely fucking utter your threats
Starting point is 00:15:09 because you're giggling so much. Anyway, sorry. Absolutely no view on this. I'm digressing. Lately, too much self-deprecation, especially from Rom. You don't need to question your performance every episode. Tom, you do you as always.
Starting point is 00:15:28 So I assume that criticism is levelled at me. Do you remember a while ago, somebody had a go... By the way, it always seems to be my behaviour that has to get picked up on this podcast. Listen, hey, I'm not perfect by any shadow of a means. No, sure. But what I would say is, do you remember when like i um i i was trying to be more positive to you because i got told i was being too horrible to you but we've got an
Starting point is 00:15:52 email in and now with this one email by the way i actually treasure it i i adore our friendship the way it is and i don't think we should clarify it and yeah but what if okay let me just let me just hypothesize for this about this for a minute, all right, because I know that you love our friendship and I love our friendship as well. It's lovely. Oh, God. But the point of...
Starting point is 00:16:13 You say you became like a Richard Curtis character then. Oh, God, what am I saying? Of course I love you, Sandy. I'm just a guy in front of a friend trying to record a podcast. love you sandy i'm just i'm just a guy in front of a friend trying to record a podcast no um i um it's possible that you're a victim of abuse and you don't realize you might have stockholm syndrome in this relationship i mean i mean it's possible i there's i absolutely i adore it's one of my favorite things in the world where you give me two barrels i i sometimes will i literally it's like passing your ball
Starting point is 00:16:45 and you're passing it back and look if some people find that awkward or difficult then you know i you know that's on them but at no point in our relationship do i ever feel abused or that that's that's the thing i treasure most about our friendship is that if i'm in a tight pinch and I text you and I've got a problem of any kind you've always been there for me and I treasure that
Starting point is 00:17:09 but also we take the piss out of each other we have a joke and we have and that bit where you went if ever I text you
Starting point is 00:17:16 that sounds like you know you're talking about me like I've just been fucking cancelled you give me some sort of character witness statement do you know
Starting point is 00:17:24 do you know what you're reminding me of? Do you know when, what's his name, Kramer from Seinfeld did that racist set and then Seinfeld had him on the show. He's a really nice guy. That's what that sounded like. Yeah, but that's what I think about.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Because you found it quite taxing and I understand why. I didn't know. I didn't find it taxing getting the email. I found it taxing. I don't find criticism taxing and i understand why i didn't know i didn't find it taxing getting the email i found it taxing what i didn't i don't find criticism taxing okay because in this job you have to accept criticism what i found taxing was the realization that maybe i wasn't a nice person to you but you are a lovely person you're as kind of person as genuinely person as i've ever met in my life and that's that's that's very kind of you to say.
Starting point is 00:18:05 In the bottom of my heart, yeah. But you know, like, when you have that fear. Of course. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying, like, you know when it unlocks a door, when you go, fuck. I've had a few instances in my life. Sometimes with Lisa, I'll suddenly think, honestly, I have moments where I genuinely will go, have I been a fucking arsehole to the entire
Starting point is 00:18:26 relationship do you know what i mean do you ever have that oh god anyway this is the complete opposite response to the feedback that was given on the review so i'm trying to be listen do you think we're too self-deprecating no because i think that's a part of our humor i don't think we're always self-deprecating i think sometimes we are because that's how we feel. You can't put on a mask and pretend. Look, it would be disingenuous for you all of a sudden just to go completely, oh yeah, I'm just going to sit here and go,
Starting point is 00:18:56 I'm happy with everything and I'm happy. Because that's not how anyone feels about life. All of a sudden then you become a drone sitting on a fucking morning breakfast show, sitting there pretending that everything's fluffy and nice and that's not how any human being feels and i think that if you wake up some days and you feel like this doesn't work or that doesn't work and you don't feel good then you should voice it and say it because that's where we are in humanity in a moment and i think it's a sad state of affairs if someone sits here and goes oh that's that's, if I'm going to be completely honest,
Starting point is 00:19:26 when we started this podcast, one of the main things that me and you both said is we're going to always talk about how we feel. It's not put on. It's not fake. Sometimes you feel up. Sometimes you feel down. And that's just how you are as a person.
Starting point is 00:19:36 That's how we all are. Tom, what has happened to you today? What's going on? No, just saying. I feel like I'm talking to fucking Rishi Sudhak or something. What's going on no i'm just saying i feel like i'm talking to fucking rishi sunak or something what's going on with you rishi sunak why the fuck was that the name that came to your head um i just thought what was it i like the idea i'm there as a friend for you
Starting point is 00:20:00 right i'm here to build you up and you thought the most accurate fucking person that you could throw at me was Richie Sunak. First of all, it's not Richie Sunak. Second of all, those Invisalign really do affect you in a very specific way, don't they? But the point I was trying to make is, do you know what?
Starting point is 00:20:19 The reason I said Richie Sunak is because I saw him defending himself about not turning up. I'm not defending myself. I'm going to defend in this situation, mate. I don't know who I am because I don't really follow politics, but I'm fucking coming to Rishi Sunak's fucking... What is wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:20:36 Rishi Sunak. Hey, look. Fucking Rishi Sunak stepped into the place. Everybody was there then. Joey Fingers, Billy the Brass, Rishi Sunak stepped into the place. Everybody was there that night. Joey Fingers, Billy the Brass, Richie Sunak. Oh,
Starting point is 00:20:49 you don't want to fuck a Richie Sunak. He'll fuck you heavy on the river. Richie two times Sunak, we got him there because he said
Starting point is 00:20:55 everything two times. I just thought, what's the closest thing to big and white? And I went for the smallest brown guy I could think of but no listen the point I was trying to make
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Starting point is 00:22:04 Only at HomeSense. Why not kick back with a cold, smooth bush? smooth taste great value bush lager enjoy responsibly must be legal drinking age i had quite uh well two things i want to share with you, Tom, since I spoke to you last. One, obviously I'm spending a few nights in this hotel and I am... I love Glasgow. Beautiful city, let me shout out Glasgow. It's a lovely, lovely city.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Can I say, by the way, Glasgow, I was fortunate just in the tour and going and doing work and pro. Glasgow really puts it on, doesn't it? when they got first of all Glasgow let me tell I think this is a good opportunity now to give a love letter to Glasgow right because Glasgow when I was growing up Glasgow had a reputation for being just shit well that was like the stereotype of it yeah it's a bit anti-Scottish or whatever you want to call it but everyone's like you know I came up to Glasgow a few years ago
Starting point is 00:23:25 I think I was supporting Kevin Bridges I was supporting Bridges on his tour in 2015 right and he was doing like two weeks at the Hydro because
Starting point is 00:23:33 well just because he's Kevin Bridges right so he was yeah he was doing two weeks at the Hydro so I was basically
Starting point is 00:23:38 staying in Glasgow for two weeks I fell in love with this city man I think like the food the going out the people it's wicked.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I genuinely recommend, if you wanted to do a weekend away with mates or whatever, or a weekend away with your other half, I genuinely think Glasgow is great. I love it so much. However, having said all of that, it has got some fire in its tummy. Yes, it does have some fire in its tummy it has got some fire in its tummy yes it does have some fire in its tummy
Starting point is 00:24:06 when I'm working you sort of like I mean I probably will go at some point but
Starting point is 00:24:15 I'd imagine party wrong will show is no party wrong is not no
Starting point is 00:24:19 party wrong I'm working every day no no there's no party wrong there's no party wrong
Starting point is 00:24:23 okay it's work every day I love the idea of you pulling up your sort of like gold nike airs from under your bed and just going one more dance i'm sad just like just um yeah i've just been turning up to work in like normal clothes but i've got one little outfit ready for the wrap party i think it's time full adidas my old Burberry shirt and short combo the matching shirt and short Burberry combo but anyway
Starting point is 00:24:50 today, so basically a lot of the time I'm going to just be spending the evening on my own thankfully tonight I'm having the delight of your company because, well first of all before we go, I'll carry on with this what I would consider to be quite a boring diatribe.
Starting point is 00:25:06 How come you're back in the game? Well, Wi-Fi. I mean, I know how you're. I'm going to shout out, right? I'm going to shout out. Every now and again, a Samaritan comes to your aid. So we were told, we were three weeks without internet or Wi-Fi. And we were told it was going to be another two weeks.
Starting point is 00:25:23 And after Wednesday's podcast went out, an amazing human being, an incredible sweet sweet soul, but I don't know if Andy Williams got in touch with him, with him, with me. And he basically sorted us out. He basically was like, we've been told a lot of stuff that,
Starting point is 00:25:43 yeah, it was going to be another two weeks from now. Podcasts won't be, won't be, me, you and Flo and JT had to have quite an earnest conversation that there was a good chance that we wouldn't be able to do any podcasts for the next fortnight. Right. With me not having any wifi. No.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Andy Williams, that's it. Yeah. And let me just say, Andy Williams, he's not just a superhero. You get emotional. What's going on? because he restored my faith
Starting point is 00:26:07 in humanity we've been blown out and told so by so many people that oh you wouldn't be able to get this we'll go left on hold and then one guy set himself a mission to give give give us wi-fi and actually you know what all the stuff we were told that we couldn't get wi-fi and the reasons it was going to take so long uh were debunked by Andy Williams and his incredible team. Did he explain why you'd been given those reasons? No, no. We didn't need reasons. We had Wi-Fi.
Starting point is 00:26:35 So once you get Wi-Fi, it's like if you're in the desert and you were looking for somewhere to drink. Once you get the sweet, sweet water in your mouth, you're not asking any other question apart from we don't need to ask any other questions the reason you didn't have any water is because you're in a fucking desert no no i'm asking it no no but when you get to where you get water oasis all right yeah when you hit oasis and you start sucking that sweet sweet water you're not going to then sort of like oh bloody hell you know you're not going to recount the
Starting point is 00:27:03 whole mission you're just going to go cross you're lying in water you're looking at your mate who's a camel he's having the time of his life and you're like fucking hell like i can't even remember when we were thirsty sure but the point i'm trying to make is you were repeatedly told that you couldn't get wife yeah right because someone said we had to dig up the street if you're in the desert if we could just carry on with your analogy if you're repeatedly asking why you can't have water it's because you're in the desert and you're not an oasis right now you're at an oasis i don't think there's any further questions required right why didn't we have water before we arrived here because we weren't in oasis we're in a desert my question is you weren't in a
Starting point is 00:27:36 desert you were told like some mad reason you can have internet we were in almost desert-like conditions because what we were told what we were told is that, essentially, to go with the desert analogy, what we were told is this, that we needed fibre and we needed the street dugout. So that means that actually it's almost going to take us a long time to get to the oasis. Did you tell them that the previous residents had one? Oh, no, no, I kept that to myself as a secret.
Starting point is 00:28:03 No, of course I told them. I said, no, people had this a week ago when we first moved in. I wasn't like... Okay, okay. Don't get all... Listen. Don't get all...
Starting point is 00:28:11 I'll be honest with you. I slightly preferred you when you didn't have Wi-Fi. Right. So, I didn't tell them. So, they basically said to us, like, we're going to have to
Starting point is 00:28:23 dig up a street and that's going to be two to three weeks from Wednesday. Andy Williams stepped in and his team. And so to go with the desert analogy, right, we actually were a lot closer to them than we thought we were. Like, actually, in all fairness, Andy Williams and his team, what's those things that you get, you know, when you're at the beach
Starting point is 00:28:47 and you get, like, a sort of dam type thing and you sort of, like, build, like, a little stream that goes from the sea to... from the sea through the desert. What's it called? What are you talking about? Like a river. He built the river to us.
Starting point is 00:29:01 The river was already there. We were actually sitting on an oasis, but we didn't know. We didn't need the... Okay. I mean, I don't think either of us understand what where the fuck we are in this do you all i know is this is we have wi-fi okay congratulations and now looking at it actually the desperation of not having wi-fi almost it's given me that sort of like i feel a bit like you know superman when he probably knew he could fly he was a bit cocky with it.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Yeah, sure, sure. What was the first thing you did when you got Wi-Fi? Sit down with Grace and watch Beauty and the Beast. There's a live-action one, isn't there? No, I'm watching a cartoon. I can't be doing that live-action thing. What's your take on the live-action things? I don't mind. I just think, in that case, the animation was so much better.
Starting point is 00:29:46 I wasn't buying Luke Evans as the Beast, if I'm honest with you. Oh, my God. I don't know. He seems like a nice enough guy. No, he seems like enough. But I just feel that
Starting point is 00:29:54 that could have been a part better served by someone who actually had Beastly, like, you know. You got down to the last two for that, didn't you? Little John in the Robin Hood movie that jamie fox ended up playing genuinely i thought about that part let me say about that and they're like they're redoing with
Starting point is 00:30:16 tara nega and they're gonna do robin hood um your name's gotta be in the mix for uh little john yeah so there was talk about it and then I didn't get the call so I assumed that the guy who played the hound or someone like that was going to have got it or, you know, that fucking helmet.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Thor, Bjornsson or whatever his name was going to get like a big lump and then Jamie Foxx came out of nowhere and played that part. Yeah, but Jamie Foxx
Starting point is 00:30:37 can do anything, right? I mean, do you not think? I think Jamie Foxx is incredible but I don't think, I don't buy him as Little John, no.
Starting point is 00:30:46 I think they should have got Little John to play Little John. This is Robin Hood just going to... Should we head on here and rob them up? Yeah! From the window to the wall to sweat it down my balls. mate that would that would have been i would have seen it that's a film i've got to watch i could i'd have sucked that up and taken that yeah yeah we've got a lot of love for our recasting ideas in the phone call out by the way
Starting point is 00:31:16 oh really good fellas with you and me yeah i've heard a few messages about that anyway the point i was trying to make is I'm in Glasgow, right? Right. Sorry. No, no, you don't have to apologize. I forced the digression now. God. And anyway, so I finished a couple of hours ago.
Starting point is 00:31:37 So I decided to order some Deliveroo. I find the process, and I don't know how many people can relate to this because it's like an unusual job that we do that we find ourselves in this situation a lot i find the process of sitting on your bed ordering a deliverer wandering down to reception and waiting for the guy to pull up and then coming back to your room to eat it on your own maybe one of the saddest things like even if the even if the food is good there's something kind of i don't know i find it like i sort of whenever i'm doing that i have a slight out-of-body experience where i'm looking
Starting point is 00:32:12 down on myself eating on my own on a bed in a hotel room i had it in chester i think week before last and yeah similar thing but also everything was was closed. So I ended up going old school with Pizza Hut. It was the only thing open. Oh my God. So I've not had a Pizza Hut, I reckon. Rough estimate. Ten years at least. Wow.
Starting point is 00:32:36 To be fair, I think I'm probably five years Pizza Hut clean. And then I'm sitting in reception. My side, by the way, I'm sitting in reception in this hotel in Chester, lovely hotel, but very, very, the lowest seat stuff. You know, like, I felt like Gandalf going around Frodo's house. You know, like in Lord of the Rings where Gandalf turns out. There must be a part of Gandalf when he's like... So you do like those films then?
Starting point is 00:33:00 I don't, like, let me just... Now I'm starting to wonder if this is a fucking character with you because when you got your mask on you're like going when the big spider comes out we've got to fight Sauron
Starting point is 00:33:17 come on Frodo we've got to go do the business with the ring you're like ripping the fucking shit out of me not only have you seen it it was your go-to reference for a small chair right yeah right so now i'm starting now i'm starting to wonder about your whole i'm starting to think now this whole thing on across these episodes has been a persona right now i'm starting to wonder what the real tom davis is to be honest with you right hold your fire jack nich Nicholson, through A Few Good Men.
Starting point is 00:33:47 There is... Everybody got the reference, Tom, don't worry about it. You didn't have to explain it. I gave it the response it deserved. Right. I've seen, I think, the first two, Lord of the Rings. I think I even saw
Starting point is 00:34:02 the third one, disparagingly watching it, just because I felt i had to feel like finish the trilogy right just my my point is this one of my main bugbears was why does gandalf always have to go to frodo's house like everything's uncomfortable for him what do you mean like all the meetings are at frodo's house right so why can't get like they go to gandalf's where things would be a lot more comfortable and yes well they wouldn't be more comfortable
Starting point is 00:34:26 for them would they well yeah because he could probably just like what have they got to do they've got to get fucking hiking equipment to get up to one of his chairs
Starting point is 00:34:31 no but they just turn around and go well the seating's nice and big innit like Gandalf looks so uncomfortable and Gandalf's a lot older so respect your elders
Starting point is 00:34:39 oh yeah but then Gandalf is much bigger so if Gandalf says to Frodo oh take a seat Frodo and then Frodo looks up take a seat, Frodo, and then Frodo looks up at the stool,
Starting point is 00:34:48 he's like, well, that's a three-day expedition. Yeah, but Gandalf, if they're that small, Gandalf can pick them up and put them on the chairs. I think that's a bit demeaning, isn't it? It's no less demeaning than... Gandalf wandering around, picking up 12 hobbits and dwarves and elves and sticking them on the stool. Yeah, but it's no less demeaning
Starting point is 00:35:03 than poor Gandalf having to fucking turn up and he's like... That's one person. Look, let's be honest, mate. Hobbit-wise, I'm no big fan of hobbits. You need fucking Frodo and Sam. You put your mask
Starting point is 00:35:17 back on, so now officially you're not. No, I'm just saying, you need Frodo and Sam. The rest of them are absolutely pointless. There's no point in the other two. The two little, what are they called? Pippin and Merry? You don't like them? I think they're just an absolute pair of wasters.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Okay. I don't understand why they're along for... They're just having an absolute riot while everyone else is up against it. That's what I can see. Okay, well, everybody contributes in their own way we sit in there furious at lord of the rings yeah it annoyed me they're taking the piss out the whole thing it feels like someone needs to put them up and like and go listen we're up the
Starting point is 00:35:55 whole of the whatever it's called middle earth could end here and you two are just pissing about like jumping around on walking trees and stuff yeah that they were doing that. That was part of the thing they had to do. They weren't pissing around. You're making out like they're having a fucking stag deal or something. That's how it felt for me. They just didn't feel like they were taking the whole thing. I'm not going to get into my thoughts
Starting point is 00:36:17 on the whole of the thing. My point is this. I think that ship has sailed, mate, to be honest with you. But anyway, go on. So you were sitting on this little chair. This little chair in this reception. Why I fucking buried this, I don't know. My knees are up around my ears, and people are coming in, sort of saying hello, and I'm having a chat. Every time someone comes in, I've got to come out of this chair
Starting point is 00:36:35 that's so low, and then I get back into it. But yeah, I completely sympathise with your problem. When the pizza arrived, it was quite cold and then that was it what was pizza pizza like after all these years like because there was a time when because i remember before pizza hut the pizzas that you'd get were the the little just the discs you know they come in a pack of 10 cheese and tomato with the little cubes of like pepper or tomato whatever on sitting on top of them. And then the pizza advert came out and I would, honestly,
Starting point is 00:37:07 I don't think I'll forget this to the day I die. They stick the little, whatever it's called, the slice thing underneath and they pull the slice up and you get those strings of melty cheese coming up out the, that I had never seen that before in my life. I mean that, that, I think that image, people talk about marketing,
Starting point is 00:37:27 that image of the strings of cheese coming out of the thing, that is what made Pizza Hut what it was until all the competitors came in and, like, took over. But that was the thing. That was pizza, right? I mean, that was like, you'd never seen anything like it. People are going, you know this thing that you thought you knew? It could be about 1,000 times better. Did you feel, like, you you thought you knew it could be about a thousand times better you feel like so american when you like took a bite and thought god this
Starting point is 00:37:49 is how literally how it must be in like la and new york yeah like that thing of like when you're a kid and you romanticize about what america's like you know from watching films and stuff they're all eating they're all calling them pies and eating deep dish pizzas and all this and then we're sitting there eating like little like pizza frisbees and then suddenly we get these big deep slices i'd order extra cheese on that shit so that i could get more you know the thing that's never come over here right is the big slice we don't have that over here we don't huh we do where it's not very it's not very common it's not very common but there are places that you get slices. I'm from London.
Starting point is 00:38:28 I can't think of a time where you could walk through London and just go, oh, I'm going to stop here and get a big sweet, sweet pizza. I'll get a whole pizza, but just a big slice of pizza just to keep me going for a couple of hours. Very hard to find that shit. When I was in New York, obviously there's loads of places like that but they but they um one of the guys i was with this guy snips he opened for me on the show he's a dj he's amazing hip-hop dj and he lives out in new york he took me to this club but on the way
Starting point is 00:38:57 there we stopped at this pizza place there were no vegan options sadly but he um got a big slice he got a big slice right he got a massive slice tom it had fucking it had penne pasta on it what it was a slice of pizza i'm so sorry right i love you so much the sad and i adore you but the saddest thing is the fact when you just threw in and you quietly said there was no vegan there. So I couldn't have anything. So essentially what we're talking about is you in a situation where this guy has what sounds like the best pizza ever. And then you're just standing with your hands in your pockets
Starting point is 00:39:36 watching him eat it. That is what happened. Actually, I think Flo was there as well. Flo was there. Did she have a piece of pizza? Yeah, everyone did apart from her. How is it? Nice?
Starting point is 00:39:52 Yeah, it looks bloody good. That's nice. Well, those New York pizza places, they don't do a vegan option, do they? I didn't even ask. You know I've never been to New York? Oh, you should go, man. You'd love it there.
Starting point is 00:40:03 I'd love to go with you. That would be my dream. They, um, somebody actually sent me on it. Oh, wow. What a fucking snob. Well, oh, yeah, mate, listen. Is it any time you want to go somewhere together? Of course.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Open invitation. I'd love to do that. I'd love to go to New York. I'd be amazed. Okay. All right. Well, do you want to sort it out now? When do you want to go?
Starting point is 00:40:20 Get your diary out. Maybe Christmas when everything's sort of similar. Christmas is a big ask, isn't it? to spend christmas in new york with you no not christmas day just december sometime or we could recreate like moments from like home alone and sort of other new york you know what i hoped beyond hope that is that wasn't what you're going to say we should do you know what you know what i'd like you to do I'll take you to New York I'll pay for the flight if for a couple of the days
Starting point is 00:40:48 of our trip in December you dress up like Will Ferrell in Elf mate you have not got to ask me twice I'd do that if you dressed up as a bird lady
Starting point is 00:40:59 isn't it insane by the way just like two like two tragic tourists these are our favourite characters of New York folklore just people walking past oh yeah he really he really likes Will Ferrell
Starting point is 00:41:12 oh my god that has got to be the fucking bleakest bachelor party I've ever seen you know what will happen is we'll set up a WhatsApp group you will invite a load of your mates I'll invite a load of mine
Starting point is 00:41:24 and then as each week goes on a couple more drop out and then eventually it'll just be us two wouldn't it be sad it's like people just getting together in New York
Starting point is 00:41:31 going hey you know something I saw something so fucking tragic today like there's a guy this is the bird lady from Home Alone 2 and a guy dressed as elf
Starting point is 00:41:41 and the bird lady guy had no pizza but the elf guy had three bits of pizza. He had one in his mouth and one in each hand. It was so sad to watch. Because the Bird Lady guy, he looked like he'd probably enjoy pizza. But he just couldn't let himself go. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:43:13 Or face extinction. Godzilla Kong. The New Empire. Now playing only in theaters. Should we go to New Yorkork i'd do that i think we should do a special when we go to new york together okay let's what are you gonna do a podcast so his hand well we're doing podcasts we're out there maybe we could film it why don't we try why don't we try mastering doing a podcast when we're both in the uk do you know somebody sent me a video somebody sent me a video
Starting point is 00:43:47 on Instagram right um of a warning about people giving you CDs in New York it's like a known thing
Starting point is 00:43:55 oh really yeah I don't think I think if we're there to get a like yeah I hope that shit
Starting point is 00:44:00 doesn't happen I can't imagine I mean imagine you don't get approached for shit like that I don't yeah I've got yeah because I look like imagine you don't get approached for shit like that. I don't, yeah. Because I look like a goofball wherever I am. People think I've got that look.
Starting point is 00:44:09 There's an episode of Seinfeld where George Costanza looks like he... Basically, everyone thinks he's a tourist in New York. He finds some tourist clothes. I've seen that episode, yeah. It's a brilliant episode. And sometimes in London, I think people think that of me. Also, I think I've tried to be as
Starting point is 00:44:29 smiley and as approachable, and that doesn't always work in London. That's one of the things I've really noticed. And I know it's a sort of hacky thing to say, but other cities, Glasgow, Liverpool, Manchester, you know, you feel more people are more chatty in London. Certain parts of London, when you walk around, if you smile at someone, I know it's an old trope,
Starting point is 00:44:49 but you do sometimes feel like you're an absolute weirdo if you smile and nod at someone. What's your take on that? Do you think it's better to be friendly? Yeah, I do. I think to walk down the street and nod and smile at someone is, I think... Okay, all right, fine. Nod and smile. I'm just playing devil's advocate for a minute because I don't I don't entirely disagree with you but what if what about talking to somebody
Starting point is 00:45:11 on a train what's your take on that I did that today on the way home yeah what about striking up a conversation having at a pub
Starting point is 00:45:17 yeah well look you know the trouble with that right is actually 10-15 years ago that wasn't a weird thing social media has made it strange look let me just say by the way there's certain areas and certain incidences where that isn't cool and you have to be respectful of the person you're nodding and smiling to or you're striking up a conversation with but i think yeah i think being friendly is we're very fortunate in
Starting point is 00:45:41 our jobs right we travel around a lot and i think there is a stark difference between being in london at times and the difference how in how people can be and being you know in certainly in areas of north scotland ireland where people are a little bit more friendly and chatty yeah but i mean like my my counterpoint to that counterpoint oh god i need to be more positive my counterpoint which is a really smart word to use in this instance my counterpoint to that is that sometimes you just don't want to talk to people i don't mean in an anti-social way you got no energy right or like you might be having a shit day or whatever or you barely manage to muster the the guts to leave your house and come out right and then somebody
Starting point is 00:46:26 engages you in conversation it's a tricky situation isn't it because like you're gonna shut it down because you haven't got the capacity to engage conversation is a different matter right conversation there has to be if you're going to engage someone in conversation have a chat you've there's a few there's there's rules to that shit right it's like fight club right a smile and a nod and again if you're not feeling up to it what my point is this is significant in how the difference between i'm in london and i'm proud to come from london but it's significantly different when you're in a small town somewhere else like you know devon good like anywhere else in london there feels there is a massive
Starting point is 00:47:05 difference if you're walking down the street and every now and again it happens and you think oh that's a really sweet thing but i i do think that there's a big and i don't think there's a problem in in being polite and nice and courteous and nodding sometimes when you're blanked or someone just stares at you that's why when you say about elf sometimes i do feel like will ferrell and elf really i was singing to that as i walked down the street right uh what were you singing giants by demo oh my god were you yeah did you have headphones yeah i had headphones on i was just listening to it right and i couldn't help myself okay came with the train I put on Apple Music
Starting point is 00:47:47 I had like a whatever you call it when a surprise song comes on I shuffled it up and that came on and I was like I haven't heard this for a while since I tried to recreate it on the podcast and yeah I had my bag and I was swinging my bag a bit
Starting point is 00:48:02 and singing along and I got some funny looks you know what I I yeah I don't know I would urge you to not do that anymore
Starting point is 00:48:17 right so but what's wrong with that there's nothing wrong with it but I just think like dude you're a recognisable guy you're on TV but you know what in my head I'm like I feel very happy doing this
Starting point is 00:48:29 I'm walking down the street and the absolute bangers come on I'm very much enjoying this song you know yo it's almost like I'm shouting out don't you need a hand with that I've got you
Starting point is 00:48:40 yeah are you not concerned about the headphone voice sort of accentuation effect? I do this, right? Okay, go on.
Starting point is 00:48:48 We used to be, yeah. The way we are. The way we are. Why is that better? Because I sing from my nose. I'm not shouting it loudly. I'm not like, we used to be jazz. I'm singing it through my nose like we used to be jazz I'm singing it
Starting point is 00:49:05 like through my nose you're walking along doing that yeah yeah I'd probably walk away or try like if I
Starting point is 00:49:20 if you were coming down the road doing that like full disclosure I'm not saying this is right but I think about crossing the road or moving to another area of the pavement that's the honest truth I don't know you
Starting point is 00:49:30 why why because I just do you like this is not right I'm not saying it's right but I would just think that guy's going to say something
Starting point is 00:49:42 or like there's something going on there that i don't want to get involved with do you know what i mean so hold up or i might walk past and he might start telling me to sing or something you know i don't know it's just too hard so this is like you're kicking loose and you're as you say right and you're walking through i don't know covent garden right yeah are you and like you're listening to one of your favourite
Starting point is 00:50:05 hip hop tracks do you never just sort of like rap along to the lyrics I don't when I'm out in public I tell you what I do tend to do though
Starting point is 00:50:12 if I'm waiting for a train or whatever or I'm sitting on a train or sitting anywhere really I will like start to move a little bit to the music but
Starting point is 00:50:20 what's the difference maybe there isn't a difference you know there might not be a difference but I don't think I'd walk I wouldn't walk along you know what bumping along to the tune
Starting point is 00:50:29 like I was in a video I'd love just to see just once you just let it all go and like I am letting it all go I am letting it all go this is the thing isn't it
Starting point is 00:50:37 because you think that because I don't walk along singing like a a fucking I don't know what the fuck it is right because I because I'm not walking along singing,
Starting point is 00:50:46 I'm holding something back. No, I'm not. I am loose, okay? No, but... There's a problem with people like you. I'd love to see you just get hard-got-life on and you just fucking have it. Why?
Starting point is 00:50:58 I don't want to do that. Like, it's not something I want to do that I'm holding myself back from doing. It's not something I want to do. You'm, like, holding myself back from doing. It's not something I want to do. You sometimes remind me of the dad from Dirty Dancing. Who was perfectly in the right, by the way. He went on holiday with his young daughter and some fucking old weirdo started trying it on with his kid
Starting point is 00:51:17 and somehow he's the fucking villain in this film. film i mean surely you must see that you've got a daughter now do you know what i mean oh yeah it's something yeah nobody puts baby in a corner i think i will mate i'm a dad yeah she often has to get put in the corner when she hasn't done her homework why don't you fuck off, you weirdo? We saw you coming out of Wilkerson yesterday with your beats on, just singing along. This fucking sad old bastard who just fucking waits for people to turn up with their daughters in his fucking holiday cabin or whatever the hell it is. It'd be so much funnier if John Candy was in that role.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Oh, mate, 100%. We're just fucking siding with whoever. You need Uncle Buck to rock it up there, man. Sort shit out. Are we doing letters today or emails should we do one let's do one
Starting point is 00:52:29 are we doing are we doing letters today we have 50 minutes we are let's do one and then okay this is from
Starting point is 00:52:37 oh she's just put her name here I'm just going to say cat hi Rom and Tom firstly I just want to say how much I'm loving your podcast I've only recently started listening so I'm currently on episode 13 cat. Hi, Roman, Tom. Uh, first I just want to say how much I'm loving your podcast. I've only recently started listening. So I'm currently on episode 13. What do you think about it?
Starting point is 00:52:49 Like if you start listening to this podcast, I don't, I don't know if I want people to listen to it from the beginning. Do you? I mean, well, I mean, it's the same.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Yeah. I mean, it's nice when someone's listened to them all. I think I met someone the other day who started quite late and, and has worked their way through the whole back catalog. I should have met someone the other day who started quite late and has worked their way through the whole back catalogue. I met someone the other day that sort of said
Starting point is 00:53:09 that they listen to this when they're in bed. They fall asleep to this, which I find quite weird. I imagine there's something, there's a familiarity thing. I do that, I've told you I do that
Starting point is 00:53:18 at the office. Yeah. But, okay, shall we do this email? This is incredibly disrespectful. Okay. Hi, Rob and Tom. Firstly, I want to say how much I'm loving your podcast.
Starting point is 00:53:28 I've only recently started listening. I'm currently on episode 13. The topic of not wanting presents at Christmas came up, and it got me thinking. I hate my birthday. Wow. I feel like there's a massive pressure to be... What?
Starting point is 00:53:38 No, I said, wow, hating your birthday. Oh. I feel like there's a massive pressure to be excited and happy and cheery in the whole day. In reality, you're in your 30s with two children and a husband. Your day isn't going to be much different from any other day, apart from having a few cards on the fireplace, which inevitably be left to put in the recycling.
Starting point is 00:53:53 When your work colleagues ask if you had a nice birthday, you respond, yeah, quiet but nice. So I guess my question is, is it acceptable to tell people you've had a boring day and a birthday is nothing more than any other day in the year? Keep up the great podcast. world to tell we've had a boring day and a birthday is nothing more than any other day in the year keep up the great podcast well first of all uh you are talking to two people or you've sent an email it's two people who have had many more birthdays than that yeah uh tom what's your attitude towards your birthday you know i i quite like it sort of meek chill birthdays i used to sort of really
Starting point is 00:54:22 really really hunt for like a massive fucking big party birthday and sort of seldom actually enjoy it because it i don't i quite like the quietness of it now i like a nice meal i like a sort of you know a couple of presents if i'm lucky i kind of get where she's coming from she's younger so there's the whole thing of trying to sort of oh god i'm really camping look at this um yeah i think it's that camp your hand was just in a different angle but i find um i think it it comes a lot to this sort of fomo thing doesn't it i think it's the expectation of life now that we have uh and it sort of feeds into so many different aspects of who we are and what we do i think
Starting point is 00:55:05 people we're constantly trying to sort of prove that i guess like sort of be in line with what we think society thinks that we should represent when it comes to a birthday it's like christmas right um you sit down and watch a christmas movie like Home Alone or something where sort of this big family or the sort of leans into sort of how this sort of perfect family should work. And seldom do we, seldom sort of most of us conform to that. So you constantly felt that actually your celebrations or the way that you did things are slightly inadequate.
Starting point is 00:55:43 And actually the truth is most of us either dread birthdays or it's a day that just sort of goes by and it's, you know, there's a sweet tiny little moment. But actually this sort of big escapade that we're all after, the sort of like big hurrah is sort of, you know, the juice is never quite worth the squeeze. So I just actually think my advice would be as you grow older, I think in
Starting point is 00:56:05 every little part is just try and have a little moment each day that feels like your birthday that you celebrate yourself for being incredible and amazing rather than just one day a year just sort of putting all your eggs in one basket sort of just look in the mirror and just say you know what you're an incredible human being and you're a sweet soul. And this is your day today, even though you weren't born this day. You are amazing. Okay. Nice bit of advice there.
Starting point is 00:56:38 I would say I understand not liking your birthday. I don't really give a shit about my birthday. But I don't think it's about it being your birthday. I think it's about having a day that's about you. So I don't know. I feel like maybe you need to actively try and do something decent on your birthday or around your birthday. If you're a bit, I mean, the way you've described your kind of life setup is a bit, feels like you're a bit sort of resentful of, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:06 the trials and tribulations of everyday life. So I think you should like look to actually opt out of it. In fact, this is my challenge to you. Your next birthday, just do something you really, really want to do, whatever that might be. It might be go-karting. It might be a day playing bridge. Come to New York with me and Romesh.
Starting point is 00:57:23 No, that's not an invitation it's something like that so that when you go back to work after your birthday you've got a story to tell do you know what I mean sometimes I wish me and Tom did that more so we had actual content for this podcast or just like run up a hill really really quickly get to the top and just take a breath in
Starting point is 00:57:39 so that's a great terrible idea that's much worse than any of the suggestions I made so you could do that if you wanted to if that's that's something you fancy doing a cartwheel yeah yeah that would make for a great story what what's going on why are you why do you why are you just saying things that you would say to grace i'm just saying like i i i don't think you know like when you see someone doing a cartwheel like a younger person the actual joy that they have for doing a cartwheel i think there's something to be said about the sort of loss of i think when you stop running as fast as you can down the street
Starting point is 00:58:15 just to feel that feeling of adrenaline bursting or doing a cartwheel or i don't know like just kicking a ball against the wall those moments of are true happiness. We lose as we get older. And actually, maybe that's the thing. We should just try and go back and do those things. Yeah, okay. Yeah, you're right. I guess Tom's advice is why don't you try being eight? So if that's of any use
Starting point is 00:58:48 to you, I hope it is. Buy the toy that you always wanted when you were eight. Be the person that you dreamed of being when you were eight. You can do that if you want to. One of the best ever films is big because he gets to do that. Try that.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Try that. Okay, it's time to go. Time to go. Can I just say, this is not an advert. I'm just showing you this. Why are you doing this? This is a bit muggy,
Starting point is 00:59:13 like a product placement thing. No, no, I'm not going to mention the name of the product. I'm just showing you on the Zoom. Right. I have bought deodorant for the first time in my adult life. What?
Starting point is 00:59:22 Yeah. I don't normally wear deodorant. I've said this before on the podcast. Yeah, I know you have, but why have you bought it? Because the last time I did adult life. What? Yeah. I don't normally wear deodorant. I've said this before on the podcast. Yeah, I know you have, but why have you bought it? Because the last time I did Weakest Link, I started getting a bit sweaty. Or BO?
Starting point is 00:59:31 No, not BO. I don't think I smell. I just think I was a bit damp. Climbing. So it actually works, this stuff, doesn't it? Sure. Well, I wasn't going to name the product. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:59:43 I think if it's been a friend to you and it's been there for you, then I think you should give it a go. 72-hour protection. I don't know why you'd need it for 72 hours. Well, no, don't do that. Don't do what? You have to shower in between 72 hours. Yeah, I am showering in between.
Starting point is 00:59:57 I'm not taking this as a replacement for washing. But the point I'm trying to make is I don't know why you'd need something that protects you for 72 hours. Well, if you're going to go back to our old friend in the desert who's up against it for three days or four days do you know what if I was in the desert for four days my main thought wouldn't be
Starting point is 01:00:16 I hope I don't get sweat patches it'd probably be I hope I see my wife and children again no but if you get found in the desert and someone turns around it what a blessing of a thing to literally turn back at the sort of village or whatever you get to and someone goes oh look we found this guy roaming in the desert you know he actually smells incredible and you go oh i'm wearing 72 uh our deodorant by sure fucking know how that really works. What is the deodorant by? Sure.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Sure. Sure. Sure. You sound like you're trying to say share. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. You're saying sure sure yeah i know you're saying sure sure sure sure sure sure sure sure what do you say when you're saying yeah sure say that yeah sure okay now say the deodorant sure what fuck off all right tom can you please uh do us the honor of taking us out Okay, now say the deodorant. Sure. What? Fuck off. Right, Tom, can you please do us the honour of taking us out? Yeah. It's hard sometimes to find in life a shoulder to lean on,
Starting point is 01:01:41 a friend in times of need, and sometimes when you're in need most and the people that you rely on and you're looking for, can't always come from a stock that you have relied on before, friends, family. Sometimes you need a cloaked Avenger or someone to come from nowhere, maybe just slip into your DMs and just say, hey, friend, I can help you out. My point is this. In life, if you can, try and do something on a good tone. This week, I was blessed by a guy called Andy Williams who helped me and my family out.
Starting point is 01:02:19 And he got nothing from doing that. But I got a lot. I got an unresolved feeling that out there in life, there are good people working hard to put a smile on your face for no self gain, just to say, hey, it's good to be there for one another. And maybe if we are all there for each other a little bit more, the world will be a sweeter place. So what I'm saying is this. Once you finish with this podcast on this sweet Monday morning, kick off your shoes and put on your headphones and take a walk out into the garden and listen to your favorite song
Starting point is 01:02:53 and sing along at the top of your voice because you know what? God damn, it feels nice. Okay. okay um oh that's very yeah very good top very very good uh okay guys i hope you enjoyed the little extra ep there's gonna be another one later on this week. We are going to take things out with a song that I think is appropriate for this episode. JT, could you take us out of the podcast with a little bit of Dermot Kennedy and Giants, please?
Starting point is 01:03:35 Boom! Thank you so much for listening to the podcast. We'll see you... Well, you'll see us... You'll hear from us in a couple of days, I think. Thank you, friends. Why do we get this Wednesday up done? Take care of yourselves and each other see you soon
Starting point is 01:03:47 you know i never forgot we were the song in the silence but time catches up To say the word and I'll be yours You know I never forgot If you have a problem, opinion, feedback or anything at all, please email us at wolfalpod at gmail.com. That's wolfalpod at gmail.com. We'd love to hear from you,
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