Wolf and Owl - S2 Ep 60: ’Hope is a prick in disguise’

Episode Date: August 16, 2023

We’re talking… a hungover Wolf, bad golf and getting stroppy, the benefits of a losing mentality, hosting stresses, tidy houses, music playlist bullies, an FPL Sexy Ballers team, booking the wrong holiday, Segway crashes and a mysterious couple at Centre Parks. Then some email questions on the consequences of being too open with friends and meeting up with listeners of the pod (or not). For questions or comments please email us at [e-mail] - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com/ A Shiny Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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if the connection really does lose a second of comedic timing. Mate, you know what you're going to lose here? I reckon you could lose so much. I'm going to be out there and say this is the most hungover I've ever been to do a podcast. Hi, Tom. What happened?

I went and played golf yesterday and then we decided to sort of have a few beers with friends. You know when you worry about the episodes, we worry about the episodes being the same because we don't plan anything. Yeah. Do me a favour. Just mix up some of the shit you do, right? Because if somebody's listening to this episode

not knowing what number it was for some reason, and then it starts with, I was playing golf. They've got no idea when that could have been over the last 18 months. Do you know what I mean? Well, yeah. What do you think that I should be doing more stuff than you go out and do a

lot of varied shit, right? Yeah, I do. No, no, no, you do.

You do. I mean, you're trying to have a dig or something. I do. This is the thing. I have a varied diet of life experiences. You do. No, no, no, you do, you do. I mean, you go to gigs. I know you're trying to have a dig or something. No, I'm not having a dig. I do actually. This is the thing. I have a varied diet of life experiences. You do.

You know what my thing is, right? Number one, I'm now very, I'm in the fetal position, right? Right, yeah. I'm where you've been so many times in this. And I have to implore you not to put those big old size 13s in on me. Okay, fine, fine. I'm going to be, listen, I'm going to

look after you, all right? Gentle Rob. So you went and played golf and then what happened? We played. You know I play golf,

yeah? I thought you'd given up. And I live quite near you, yeah? You've given up? I thought you'd given up?

Well, look, I haven't played for like a year but I still have the clubs. Can I just say, I haven't played properly. And a willingness to meet some friends. I've not played properly for quite some time it was genuine i played a very good course

the grove it's a brilliant beautiful course oh yeah i know that very well yeah and we stunk i would have been there in a heartbeat we stunk up bad man maybe the three worst golfers ever to play on that course right everyone there was there was people sent out in buggies to come and tell us to hurry up because we were so slow. And, like, you know when you're just watching other people and other people around you are absolutely nailing the thing you're trying your hardest at? Were there people waiting for you at the hole for you to? Yeah, yeah.

And then it started raining and i could see people thinking oh these guys are just sort of weekend golfers they're going to give in and we were thought i want to sort of stick with it uh to be fair we only played like nine holes and then we were a bit like fuck this is just too the rain was too much and also we were playing so badly like taking 13 shots did you get frustrated? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I genuinely was like, Why have I taken this up as a hobby? I when I'm playing okay, I will never play particularly well. But when I play like, I think I use it all right. And then when you

play badly, what am I doing to my mental health? Bring something into my life that I'm so bad at. And to play in front of people who just watching just going this guy's an absolute fucking loser. Yeah, it's difficult. golf actually it's advertiser well it's not advertised but on the surface of it seems like quite a relaxing thing to do but she's incredibly fucking frustrating yeah I'd say I'll give you say there was times in yesterday's game where not just had I never seen a golf ball in a golf club before,

but that someone had to explain to me that a ball rolls, that I'd never seen an actual ball or any circular sort of motion of a device in my life. Yeah. I mean, it didn't need complicating that sentence. Did you get nervous about did you get nervous about showing your true colors? Because like when i first started going out with lisa right um when we moved in together she said the way that i behaved around putting the christmas lights up made me less attractive because i got really fucked off

with how tangled up they got and then another time we went to see Kanye in concert at the O2 and my anxiety about getting there on time, she said, was like, it was pre-ick, but I would say what she was describing was the ick. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Did you worry about your golfing behaviour in front of, I mean, I know you have close friends. Yeah, but I know both of them looked at me at one point, like, this is embarrassing

to say but we're we're we're honest on it i even when i look back like i can imagine it being a sort of like if charlie and alex were to behave and theo's too old for that behavior but even if great yeah were to behave in the way that i did i genuinely was like i hate this game i don't think i look i was nearly in tears at one point and right okay like acting like a kid like i was like i'm just gonna drive the buggy like after the fourth i'm just gonna drive back you guys play on but i just this isn't for like they were like no no stick with it it's fine and they've been really sweet i could tell that me being a big stupid baby had like taken a big warm dog shit on their day it was it's difficult isn't it it does happen it happens to me very rarely but you know that thing where you kind of you it's not like

you lose your temper you you do lose your temper but you sort of get upset in like a child right way and you're sort of yeah you're aware that what you're doing is ridiculous but you still can't switch out of it you know what i mean you know the thing i wasn't it wasn't even like angry like losing my temper it was just pathetically like and also like the two guys i'm playing with and just naturally good like you know i mean you've talked to us but they're just naturally sporty people so they haven't tried or practiced as hard as i ever have. And they were just naturally both, they just were better than I am. So it's just kind of sort of like quite soul destroying when you sort of think, oh, actually, I might be the best one here.

And it's sort of after three holes you go. That was your mistake. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, I should just call myself. You've gone in there with a little bit of ego, haven't you? No, no, I've gone in there with hope. And actually ego, haven't you? No, no. I've gone in there with hope, and actually that's never been my friend. Yeah. I should have gone in there not thinking.

You know, if there's one thing that people should take from The Wolf and Out is that hope is a pricking disguise. It really is. I should really have just sort of just gone, you know your whole life where you've sort of sailed the calmer seas when you know that you're fucking pathetic and you know you know that you're ultimately a loser and not to not to place any sort of like dreams or aspirations or doing well out of anything and then it's a lovely surprise if anything good comes along yeah and you know

the other thing that i find horrible is my behavior uh when i start to you know like you play in a game of anything and you start to get ahead it's by fluke but you don't realize it at the time like what what happens to your behavior is so disgusting isn't it it's just what was i i don't know what's honestly i don't know i'm not on it no honestly i've not been i don't know what's going on i look i'm as surprised as you are i really am you know what i crumble i crumble i absolutely crumble if i'm in the lead of anything my ass just goes that's why you know when i look at proper sportsmen and like me and you have been lucky to meet a few in a time but like that cold steel of like i'm going to bring this home i have none of that no i have none of that. No. I have none of that. I just start sweating, shaking. I actually would almost, I would almost,

you know if you're able to talk about that sort of winning mentality, do you know what my mentality is? Deliberately sabotage yourself so you don't have to deal with the pressure of maybe winning. That is honestly where my head is at. If I was a coach or a manager of a team going to a World Cup or a European Championships, I'd be like, let's just lose every group, go and get this done with.

Because it's just going to be so, it's like, if we get into the knockout stages, I don't think I can take losing there. Let's start, I'll tell you what, guys. Game one, let's lose

and bring expectations right down. And then whatever happens after that is pleasant, isn't it? Huh? Guys? Guys. Another funny thing transpired, actually. So we came back to it.

Number one, how are you when people come back to yours for drinks? How do you find it? Very rarely happens. Yeah. I tell you why. I get nervous. Same. Because there's a lot of things at play here one i don't know if they

really want to come back to us do you mean you sort of feel like because if you go if your house is down the road you go do you want to come back to us i feel like you're putting those people in a position where yeah they've that is a big thing to say no i mean as soon as they do come around then i'm thinking when does this end? Like, I don't know. There's no finish time. When you're out and then you go home, that is a nice finish, right? Yeah. If they come back to your house, what do you do? We'd arrange for people to come round.

So we had the whole of Saturday was us getting the house ready for people to come round. So the whole of Saturday you got. So it's really, as we go on on this, I sort of, initially when I've made comments like this, I've sort of been joking. But now, I've got to be honest with you, I'm starting to think that we aren't friends. We are.

We're really close friends. Right. But you were away, weren't you? And if I'd texted you and said, you wouldn't have come back from your holiday a day early. Well, first of all, you said Saturday. I'd sent text you and said, you wouldn't have come back from your holiday a day early. Well, first of all, you said Saturday.

I came back Friday. Yeah. So. Well, you told me you were coming back Saturday. No, I didn't. Okay.

No, I didn't. So I was here Saturday. I'd love you to come around. I was, I was doing nothing on Saturday. Just so you know. If you want to come around

with these sort of kids, I'd love to sit, like, have you to my house and like, literally like, give a little bit back to what you did to me i mean i do find it

very stressful i'm not gonna lie right i find it like because basically you make your house anyway let's put to one side the fact that clearly i'm not welcome at your home all right we that's something we can deal with either later on in this episode or another episode we can unpack that we can do that we can unpack that and figure it out. Do you know what I mean? Like, what is the issue here? But let's just get to the nuts and bolts. So you actually had people that you do consider to be friends

back to your house. And you and Catherine were getting the house ready, right? Catherine's very good at that, right? Catherine knows exactly how she wants the house. I slip into it very much like a labourer's sort of like a sort of underling where i'm told to do a certain amount of jobs i write the jobs down in a list form and i get but my thing is essentially you're making your house like you're going to sell it for people to come around and by the end by the time everyone leaves it's an absolute tip so it's like why not just

have it when they come around it's already a tip then you're not because it's an absolute shit tip. So it's like, why not just have it when they come round, it's already a shit tip. And then you're not, because it's the fear that they'll talk about you. You know, that's one of the main reasons of going to people's houses is to talk about them afterwards. Yeah. I get that.

But then I do think like, I don't know. There's a part of me that sort of like thinks you set the standard so high. Like it, for me, it's like, I was like like and also not that we live in squalor because the house is always nice and clean clean but it's like you we have stuff that's just sitting around yeah i'd love to say i know but i don't i've not been invited around but um but

anyway i've digressed slightly yeah well no well the thing I would say about that is there are some people who like, so I would say that our house operates about 15% to 20% less tidy than when we know someone's coming around, right? That's kind of the working model for how the house is running, right? But there are some people, and i would include yourself in this that i'd be less concerned about if we were out and just like just impromptu you went can i should we go back to yours i'd be like cool with that because i i sort of feel like you know me you're not going to think this guy's like a fucking animal or whatever do you know what i mean

yeah but also your house was so immaculate when we went around there like if i invited you and Lisa around to her house and when I invite you and Lisa and the kids like that'll be the two days for me really mate I know for a fact I'll have to get back on on the drive get all the moss off the driveway dude please please please tell me You're not going to clean the driveway Mate, I had to do it the other day In this hypothetical sliding doors world Where I'm welcoming you Have you ever had to get rid of moss off a driveway? Probably

I don't think I've ever done it though It's such a cruddy job But why would you do that if we were coming round? That makes no sense to me. Because your house is an immaculate home. So when we came round there, it was so tidy. Everything was lovely. Everything was really, really, I'd say, bang on.

I don't think it was that tidy, first of all. Secondly. It was very tidy, man. I mean, you just moved in there. Yeah, I mean, that's probably the reason why it was tidy. It don't look like that now. And you're right, Tom. You're right, actually.

That's a good point. We had just moved in. You were straight round. One of the first people I'd say we invited to that house. I actually genuinely... I don't know if it's a hangover I do feel terrible now well you don't need to feel terrible there's nothing to feel terrible about

it's just it hasn't occurred to you you don't have to feel terrible no it hasn't occurred to me I did say to Catherine that's actually worse so it has occurred to you no I did say to Catherine we should have the Ranganathans over

when they're done with their holidaying right because I know what you're like it's like you take August it's like you're a're a bit like the talent in mr ripley you're all all over the all over the world i don't know where you're gonna be but i'll probably have a little joint out of portugal you know i'm gonna get it look the one of the points i was getting to this yeah sorry do you ever have a situation have you a situation where you feel like so so look

do you use spotify yes so we were sitting around last night chatting everyone in the room uses spotify apart from me i still use apple music right oh my god okay there's no by the way there is nothing wrong with using Apple Music. No, no, but I genuinely just always use it. The curated playlists are arguably better than Apple Music than Spotify. Anyway, carry on. Yeah, but I've just been using it since iPods, right, and nanos and stuff, just for an easy interface.

You didn't say any of this out loud at your soiree, did you? Yeah, and then I got absolutely rinsed for it. Yeah. You know the thing where you're like... And then I spent eight a while just then signing up for a spot. I felt bullied into it. At the evening, you sign up to Spotify? Jesus fucking Christ.

Are you being serious? Yeah. I was like... These people are your friends, aren't close friends yeah yeah basically they basically mean girled you into signing up for spotify in your own home they could my wife couldn't get my head my wife was like what happens when i send you songs on spotify i was like well i just like fucking copy and paste and just put them into apple music and you know it's obviously a bit more of a drag but now I'm like actually maybe I should have just got Spotify. I've slightly got a bit

of a problem with Catherine here because she's turned on you there in that instance. Lisa does this to me a lot we'll be in a social situation and she like I'll start getting rinsed for something as often happens and then suddenly she fucking gets her claws out as well and starts joining in. You expect it to be on side

and she starts, oh yeah, well you see the other thing he did. She completely so-cambled me. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I thought she was going to be a little club servant

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Visit canon.ca slash megatank for details. Speaking of which, just very briefly, if we can, talk about FPL. Wow. First of all, well done for setting up the code. Second of all, have we got something up the code. Second of all, have we got something like 10,000 people in the league? I think there might be more.

I think there may be like 20,000, 30,000. It's hard to tell because so many people are now drawing with points. Yeah. But it's, yeah, there's a lot, yeah, there's a lot, there's a lot a lot of people is a lot I will tell you this it dominated my family week at Center Park it's a hold

out how many of your family are in the league everyone oh wow Lisa Lisa has selected a team and the boys helped her. And her criteria was, are they fit? Well, all footballers are fit. Yeah, but like for her... Aesthetically, yeah. Aesthetically, yeah. Are they sexy? I'd like to know what Lisa finds sexy. Like, what is her team?

Well, what I can tell you is, it's meant that Erling Haaland is not in her team. Wow. Which is a big risk. Yeah, it's a huge risk. He's not made the cut who's she gone with as a forward line

she put I don't know I know that she's got Saka in it which I said for a 44 year old woman I felt was a bit was a bit

Dominic Calvin-Lewin do you think she might have gone I think he's in there he's a good looking guy I think Grealish is in there obviously yeah of course

Phil Foden please god don't let Phil Foden be in there too. Imagine if that's the thing that finally like I just like fucking hell. Do you know what? I thought she was sound and then I'd look at it. By the way, her team's called Sexy Ballers. Joking. Sexy Ballers. Wow. Any team in the LA league now, this is the one I want to see the most.

And will she be subbing people out if she stops finding them attractive? I didn't ask her about her subs policy, actually. I just know that basically what happened was for an evening, the boys were giving the names of players, then Googling them.

And then she was deciding whether they met the cut or not for being in our team of sexy boys. It's like a sort of weird sort of Fagan-ish vibe to it. Yeah, it's a really horrible thing to watch sort of transpire on a wholesome family break. Of your kids going, is this one, mummy? Is this one sexy enough

to be in your team do you think Enzo Fernandez is fit mum who who of these young boys do you think wow

because a lot of people have said Dave's not seen me or you this is the thing there's so many I generally thought we'd probably get about

500 people max that's what I thought so it's very hard for me to find you in that league. Yeah, I can't find me either. I mean, you know, you scroll down the thing and you say, oh, fuck this, I can't be bothered to look. I can tell you that I'm doing quite badly so far.

Yeah, but I mean, I'm 2,000th or something in that league. Yeah. You've got Erling Haaland, right? I have, yeah. I'm not as superficial as a swan. And also, there's something about him that I find quite dashing. I think Erling Haaland's really attractive. I do, I do too.

We know me and you were talking about our lack of prowess and our lack of steel. He is the opposite of us. He has all of that, doesn't he? Yeah, he does. He does. It is going to be a thing for my family. My kids are obsessed with this fantasy league, man.

Like, it's all we've been talking about. And actually, so on Saturday, because I was at home on Saturday, and we sat down to watch the Arsenal-Nottingham Forest game. And then my brother and his wife and kids came round. Oh, so you had people over, so you're making a big old stew with no fucking meat? No, they turned up on the day

to drop off some birthday presents for the boys, right? Which of the boys' birthdays was it? It's Charlie and Theo's birthdays during the next couple of days. Good, good. I haven't got much time to work with that, have I? Well, it doesn't matter, does it? We're not going to see you for a year. So what difference does it make?

But we were so in talking about fantasy Premier League that I actually felt Dean and Claire kind of almost dip out, almost be like regretting coming round. Was Lisa really in the convo as well? Yeah, we were talking about like, you know, because Timber went off injured,

I've got him in my team and then we were talking about that and then like, Din and Claire were looking at us like, what the fuck's that?

I think they were used to it from me and the boys. Yeah. When Lisa started going, oh my God, like they were just like, oh no, what's happening?

Lisa's team, I'd imagine, he's really happy. Yeah, he is, yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm slightly nervous that I've managed to cancel Lisa.

Because the more I talk about it, the more sort of disgusting I think it is. Sort of Lisa selecting a group of young boys that are hot enough to... I mean, it's horrible. selecting a group of young boys that are hot enough to, I mean, it's horrible. Kevin Bridges did that routine about middle-aged women being really into One Direction. I feel like it's not that far from that to be honest. What would she do if she got a whole back piece done with all of her squad on it? Oh my God.

And they didn't tell me, just unveiled it one night. We're on holiday. she's already had it done we go away first day on the beach Lucas Dinho he's got sexy ballers across the back of her neck sexy ballers 2023

who's doing the best out of your family at the moment? Alex is doing the best. Yeah. Some people have, like, triple captained already. I find it incredible. Yeah, I was actually considering doing that on Holland. But, I mean, you've got a double game week. That's when you've got to kind of wait for.

But, to be fair, yeah. But, I mean, they look good tonight i actually thought arsenal looked first half of what they look really strong anyway yeah second half and it doesn't listen by the way in case you're listening to this getting nervous we're not we're not going to do that but we might i'll tell you what we might do we might do a little spin-off at because it's i don't think it's fair on people that aren't into it to have to listen yeah i think i think what we might have to do is just do like try and do like a 10-15 minute sum up of the every sunday yeah and chat about the league that we can get out yeah and i when you first suggested it to me i thought well we're not really qualified enough

to do it but yeah you know then i remembered that we take emails from people who've got really serious problems and try and dispense advice on those so i don't see how this is much different you've been uh you've been away haven't you as well i went to center parks how was it it was great it's the best center parks visit i've had i think which one do you go to um elverton full disclosure booked it by accident in suffolk i think it is oh no it's nice um i thought i actually thought we were booking a different one. I can't even explain to you the fear that went through my system when I booked it, like paid it, did it all. Then I get the confirmation email and realise that the one I've booked is two and a half hours further away than the one that I was told to book.

Yeah, but then it feels like a proper holiday because you get the little road trip, don't you? Yeah, yeah. A road trip wasn't pleasant, I'm not going to lie to you. Why? What was wrong with it? It took us like, it's supposed to take three hours,

it took five. Mate, the M25 by the way is fucked. Okay. Thanks mate. No, it is, the M25 is completely done.

Yeah, it is fucked. I actually just think it's on its last, it's on its last haunches. It's really like, I actually feel sorry for it sometimes. It, like, I remember actually, my cousin went out with a german bloke and he came to uh stay with us uh and one of the main things he wanted to do was go and see the m25 right and just watch watch it so this german

bloke's been around yeah and i haven't still no no no this is years ago this is years ago before i knew you this is what i this is years ago before I knew you this is what I'm talking about M25 was in its heyday right I'm talking probably late late 90s maybe 97 98

to be fair you'd be actually you were a bit like he's a bit like you in a way it's sort of similar sort of like vibe to him what was that what is that vibe

no he's quite hip and cool but he was a bit nerdy as well he wanted to do some cool stuff but also he wanted to go and see the M25. Actually, I remember being quite proud at the time of showing him the M25. He was sort of looking at it in absolute awe, and he'd heard stories of its legacy. And now I'd be ashamed to show him it. Yeah, it's weird, isn't it?

When you think about this podcast, a minute and a half ago, you asked me how Centre Parcs was and now you're telling me about showing a German bloke the M25. I don't even know how we got here. So, Centre Parcs was good. It was good. Like, we did segways

oh wow Theo's never been on a segway before I unfortunately have been on a segway because I had to do an intensive segway training course

for the Twitter advert I did but we went and did segways and we went through the woods and like they're like little off-road segways

it was quite fun although they put us in high-vis and helmets I mean I i did i did think of you when yeah i was so wish i had an absolute field lisa oh please have you got a photo of you oh please get that up um but anyway let's teach these woods a lesson, mate. Yeah, well, it turns out you don't need the picture. You'd be a fucking prick. But there's, like, an older guy.

There's an older guy with, like... I want to say, like, maybe mid-60s, something like that. And he's with a guy about my age, right? I don't think they were a couple. I think they were just mates, right? Yeah. And basically... Well, that's sort of a lad's holiday at Centre Parcs.

Did they have kids as well? I couldn't... No, there were no kids with them. I couldn't really figure it out. But anyway, we went whizzing around the woods, and that guy... What, were they with you? So it was you and your family and them?

It was only me and Theo that went, and there's like, and then another family, like there's loads of people. Okay. So we were like, um, going through the woods and then, um, they kind of him and everyone behind him kind of disappeared. And then, so we kind of looked around for a bit, went back and found them. And the old fella had come off his Segway. found them and the old fella had come off his segway oh no he he basically hit something and then did what you're not supposed to do which is get off the front of the segway and it'd run him

out oh my god did you feel bad did you feel guilty i felt terrible because actually it like it skinned his shin well he was probably trying to keep up with you as well, right? Because you've got to remember, in that circumstance, you've gone from being like, this guy, to being, you were probably like the coolest guy on the Segway, like,

gang. Well, you know, I'm not, And you were zipping off in front, and this guy's like looking at you, going, fucking hell,

I've got to keep up with him, because that's almost my youth, just like, and he probably looked at that a lot deeper than you did. He'd watch you zip through Fucking high vision just pinging Sun pinging off the hives in your helmet and he's just like If I let him go too far in front that is that's me saying goodbye to the guy used to be so he's pretty zippy I'm trying to keep up with you. Yeah. Well, can I tell you something quite sad at the beginning of the

session they get you to like get on the Segway in like a little closed off area to have a little go on it and um when i got in i did get some ooze from the um from the from the group you're like you know you're basically michael j fox in back to the future one and you basically earmarked this poor character as being your version of Biff, Tanny. Oh, God. And actually you thought,

this sad old duffer who's... Did he get back on his Segway? Well, we had to... He did get back on the Segway. I just got a vision of you all making the stretcher and Segwaying back. Yeah. He had blood pouring down his leg.

Jesus. And we got back to the thing. Two things struck me. One, I sort of didn't really feel comfortable leaving, even though I wasn't doing anything. Like, it had come to the end of the thing. Yeah. And, like, everybody just sort of went, well, thank you.

But there was a guy, like, getting medical attention. I felt a bit bad walking away. But I think, like, at the same time, I do think thank you. But there was a guy, like, getting medical attention. I felt a bit bad walking away. But I think, like, at the same time, I do think he doesn't want people hanging around watching. No, no, no. The other thing that... Also, he must have felt absolutely awful because he's ruined everyone else's day by, you know,

you've all had to head back because he's been overzealous on his Segway. Well, you know, I didn't see the accident, so I don't know how much blame there was to be kind of uh thrown his way was there not a lot of witnesses just saying oh my god i mean let's just call him lenny there was a lady was just flying along he's there was there was a woman that sort of whispered to me like as we were going back she just went it's so funny she just turned to me and she went he did he did come down with an awful bang oh poor lynn man the other thing that struck me is how little of a his mate gave

like theo actually noticed it at one point like his while his mates getting medical he was doing donuts on his segway i mean he really didn't really he didn't really seem to be that bothered about what was going on i mean i'm slightly curious about what their situation was did you see it again when you were there no i saw the woman again how often like in that said because i've only been what's up i think i went to the nottingham one what yeah were you bumping out like on holiday when you're in a hotel and you bump into like because if you're in a hotel you bump into that guy four or five times right did you not do you not see him at all after that no i didn't see him it's massive but i did there are there were people that you just happened by coincidence to yeah to see a few times it's weird because i wasn't there you were there's

a part of me that just wants to know how the story like who was the guy with him why didn't he care i know it's weird, but this could be quite a funny sort of Netflix documentary. You know, like when, you know, like say like making a murderer or one of these things where that they just leave it at the end.

And some people just go, Oh yeah, whatever. You know, they get really, really sort of fired up about it. And then like, you know,

two weeks later, I can't even remember the fellow's name. Yeah then for some of us it's like you think oh you know i wonder how you know brandon is so so so hold on what what what is the conclusion to that documentary so if you're making the series what is your the question you're trying at the moment the like the way that you're making it this this is your way of doing it. Are you... But first of all, are you... Well, I didn't realise I was in a pitch meeting. That's the first thing I'd say.

I was just telling you what happened on this Segway class. No, which I'm genuinely like, things like that. Are you saying that I didn't... I should have tried to find out a bit more information. Is that what you're saying? Oh, yeah. I think if you'd gone through to a few cabins just saying, I don't know if you remember if you know len sort of old

fella he came off a segue earlier so maybe just left a few questions at the breakfast bar or the buffet sort of like you know lurked about swimming pool about see if you get sort of just some final confirmation he was okay because that's the thing you know you when you watch these things it's like at the moment all we know is him and his friend have had this weird argument. His mate doesn't care. He's fallen over. He's in absolute bits.

He's got this whole thing about, like, I'm not young anymore. I've come to Centre Parcs to sort of prove that I'm still sort of like this cool, hip guy. And me and you could be him in 20 years. Maybe that's what I'm scared of. Sure, but I don't see what finding out what his relationship with that guy does to help that out. Yeah, it's just a mystery i mean you went to center parts together right and you were trying to keep up with like some people who were zipping off on their segways and you came off your

segway i can guarantee this yeah i would be by your side just making sure you're okay for as long as it took for you i know that you don't have to tell me that i know and you didn't say for me so what's the deal with these two people who've come to Centre Park for this massive holiday, sort of almost like a life-changing trip between the two of them, and now he doesn't care?

Well, I'll tell you what I think, okay? Because I have actually given this a bit of thought. Because that guy did seem like a really nice dude, the other guy. The guy who fell over felt... Both of them seemed like really nice blokes nice dude. Yeah. The other guy. The guy who fell over. Both of them, both of them felt, seemed like really nice blokes, right?

Yeah. Um, I think that guy felt like, um, I think he knew enough about him to know that he wouldn't have wanted a fuss made. So I feel like he's analysed that situation. You and me, we want sympathy,

arm around the shoulder. Yeah. You know, somebody going, that's one of the worst things I've ever heard happen to anybody. That's what you and I did. Yeah, yeah. Right? In that situation. I feel like what that guy, that guy realised that what his mate needed was for that to be kind of almost brushed over. You know what I mean? Because he'd be embarrassed or whatever. So I think he was actually probably doing a nice thing.

Do you think they turned tails and then just sort of like basically got back to their cabin he said let's just go man let's just fucking i don't want to be seen as all right i feel like i feel like they might have gone back to their cabin and gone he he sat him down and he's gone he's got his like looking at his dressing he says look i'll help you freshen that up at like later on tonight but apart from that let's just draw a line under it and pretend that never happened I'll never mention it again and he said thank you so much

because you know me and you would have spent ages just me coming in and going are you alright and you going yeah I'm alright

and me going I can't believe that happened to you I'll probably give you a little hug and vice versa yeah I'd want that if that happened to me

and I was with Alicia and the kids I'd want that to be the only topic of conversation for the rest of the trip mate the way I see it i'd want it to be i want it to come folklore around that whole place in suffolk so like in three or four years time someone would go god bloody hell this awful thing about this fella coming off a segway in the woods uh suffolk center park so i'll go that was me and they go fucking hell that sounded terrible everyone

everyone there's it's basically they've had to they don't even do the segways through the forest anymore that'll be sort of and then you'd go back there and you'd and you'd actually get it reinstated because you felt so bad yeah people missing out probably to say that yeah this is how big guy you are yeah but then i'll probably get him to wear knee pads as well and also probably just sort of say look someone like romesh has got an intense one which is like the king of the segways um he's an amazing segwayer don't try and keep up with him let him fucking be you know know your limits they didn't go that fast but yes i i'll tell you a point uh two awkward things happened to me right in center parks amongst i mean i can't list you all of the awkward things that happen but the two things that stick out in my mind. One, at the swimming, you know, the swimming dome or whatever,

which I find that whole experience awkward as shit. Have they got all the wave machines and all that sort of stuff there? Wave machine, lazy river, water slides, all that kind of stuff. We did the rapids. Right. And the rapids are, well, basically you go down as a group but it's very very quickly get separated yeah because they're just sort of like some people go faster than others or whatever you get caught up in a different kind of current the number of collisions i had

with strangers and when i say collisions i mean their legs wrapped around my back or kind of me crashing head first into someone's chest or whatever. It happens so many times. I mean, to the point where the experience is ruined for me. Really? I just don't want to touch anybody. Do you know what I mean? So I'm going down and I'm going, oh, sorry. And then people crash into my back and go, oh, sorry.

Were you screaming between, like... I was completely silent. I would say I was so silent, it almost looked more psychopathic than somebody screaming. I think I always thought of you at Centre Park as, like, sort of slipping into your board shorts, like, grabbing a big cigar and just fucking chilling out on the lazy river.

That's the vibe I get of you. I think it shocks me that you went on the rapids. I like all the water slides and everything. Yeah, the water slides. It's basically you going into a Royal Rumble situation. Yeah, essentially. And like, I just, there's a lot of, I found it very uncomfortable.

Did anyone sort of, did you have anyone sort of like, oh, hello, sort of thing to you, sort of try and start conversations? Yeah, that happened quite a bit. Yeah. And then the other thing that happened quite a bit yeah and then the other thing that happened was on the last night i got quite drunk right by accident well by accident because lisa and i we were like having dinner we had a couple of bottles of wine

like just like not to get drunk you know it's just like it was a nice evening or whatever and then i was quite drunk and I was walking out of the restaurant. And I don't know why, but a woman came over, and her kid was like a massive fan. But when I say kid, like this kid was like seven. Yeah, but you're right, kids book now. So, yeah. Yeah, but it wasn't that.

Like, I don't know what it was. I can't even remember. Actually, do you know what it was? They did mention it. It was Taskmaster. Right, yeah. So, there. Yeah, but you were in Taskmaster. Like, for you to have They did mention it. It was Taskmaster. Right, yeah. So there. Yeah, but you were in Taskmaster.

For you to have been two in, you were in Taskmaster. Yeah, I guess they must have watched it later on or something. I guess some of these, they keep the recordings on some sort of way of watching the years later. I don't know. I don't know. It feels like magic. I turned six or seven and gone, you need to see this. It's like a coming of age thing.

I do. I've got to be honest with you. Taskmaster happening like, it must be almost ten years ago taskmaster somebody walk past me recognize me guys alright tree wizard which is one of the things I did in task was enough what I can't believe that shot like I can't believe it's a great show but I think it's a strange thing for a seven-year-old who isn't born at the time to go back and watch. If he was watching it now and watching this series. Yeah. Yeah. But it means it.

Well, the awkward thing was, is that the kid wanted to talk to me and I was drunk. Oh, no. So it just was like a bit. So I was drunk enough to have an awkward conversation but i wasn't so drunk that i didn't notice the mum bring it to a swift end oh that's basically what happened no come on mate no but what were you doing were you just sort of like i was just being like trying to be cool you know how i'll describe it no you know how i'll describe it? No. You know how I would describe it? Yeah, go on. You know, like an uncle at a party. Oh, no.

Oh, God. Have you been on the rapids? Go on, bloody hell. They're a bloody big raw rumble, aren't they? A big free-for-all. No, no. I went on there twice. But, yeah.

No, I sort of just... No, the lazy river's brought my vibe. Lady hit me in the back. Legs wrapped around me. I felt like I was having sex with her. Oh, well, you listen to that something. You'll figure out later on. Your mum will tell you later.

Do you hear me? Oh, yeah. No, of course. You've got to go. No, obviously, it's been a bit of a weird one because I was involved in a big Segway smash. Did you get a photo and stuff and do a video for him? No, no.

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Okay, should we do a few little emails? Yeah, yeah. Well, we've talked too much because I feel like I've not spoken to you for ages. I guess we would have had less to chat about

if you'd invited me around. But, anyway. I will invite's because I feel like I've not spoken to you for ages I guess we would have had less to chat about if you'd invited me around but anyway I will invite you I feel really bad about this dude well you know

don't worry about it yeah but you're away now you're away for the next three weeks two or three weeks aren't you no you're right I've not been home

how long ago have you moved in I've only been here six weeks and you've got to remember that out of six weeks I've been away twice on like touring stuff so yeah sure enough i've not had a lot of weekends here how many times

has james been around uh first time that he came around recently that was his first time very lucky very lucky okay uh this is from anon okay uh now Uh, and I'm actually gonna, I'm going to edit this a little bit. Cause it's quite long. This may seem a little deep, but bear with me. I'll explain, uh, as simply as possible. Recently, I've been having conversations with friends about the importance of communication. Over time, I found out that it isn't what is said, but more what isn't said that creates gulfs in relationships.

The less willing to talk about things that are pertinent to ourselves and those around us the more it closes off those avenues of dialogue between us i was with one of my best friends last night chatting about this very subject a bottle of wine in and i said something along the lines of i love you so much man i feel i can talk about anything and that means that nothing's off the table because willing to just be open about it like remember last year when you told me that your wife is kind of racist the fact that you mentioned it meant that i i didn't have to we just moved on. Just opened doors to other parts of conversation rather than close them. This instantly got his back up and he accused me of having an issue with his wife. When I said I didn't he said then why are you bringing it up

and then became increasingly hostile. I tried to explain that I was only using as a reference to highlight my point about communication to focus on his wife was to miss the point entirely. As he was having a go at me, he cried. Then I cried because I made him cry, aware that something deeper was going on. Then I tried to explain again, and then he stormed off into the night. Was I insensitive for bringing it up when he was the one who brought it up in the first place? I don't want to feel like he was throwing something, I was throwing something he'd told me in confidence back in his face, but that's how it felt he felt. Anyway, I've since sent my text to reiterate my intentions in the cold light of day, that it's never about her, it's about us. Ironically, my whole spiel about openly communicating

has bitten me in the arse. Maybe something's a bit left unsaid, as every time you open your mouth, you risk offending someone. That's an extreme take on it, I'd say. That's what makes life interesting, I guess. But did I get this one wrong? Sorry for the lengthy email. Would appreciate both your views on this.

Much love and big up, you sweet souls tommy d kind of want to know if the friend takes him back from the text i know that feels like that that feels like a big part of sort of like so so it feels like that could be series two of the segway investigation uh runner segue investigation uh runner so for me um it's such a difficult one because actually i don't know using that as a reference point of what is open conversation and what is a like you know that you trust each other and your opinions but using the fact that you know he he was quite open up to you and you talked about his wife being racist it was obviously a big big deal for him to to admit something that abhorrent i mean and that horrible that you know she she is a racist and that that's a really difficult thing to i guess

know that your partner is is a racist it's sort of i find but what i find quite like and this isn't having a go at you but there's a there's obviously a part of you bringing that up as the one point of reference that is like you know in a moment that actually is quite a sweet moment where you're talking about your friendship and and the positive sides of being able to talk about things you bring up something that's i guess quite a sort of negative thing and although he's spoken to you about it I guess it's his his place for bringing out it's a really really difficult one I find with it without knowing whether you've now got a quite how what what is the ratio because I'd I'd find it really

difficult to number one be around something like if someone came to me and said oh yeah my partner's a racist i'd still find it really hard to sort of what i don't want my relationship with that person would be like during let alone the the wife but i find it quite a sort of weird thing that that was brought up because i i guess in a sense that maybe it wasn't dealt with before i find it yeah it's hard one to sort of give. I don't think the person in question has been particularly insensitive. I think it's probably a massive,

if someone's opened up to you and said that they think their partner's racist, I guess it's something that they're questioning whether they should be with that person at all, I don't know. And then maybe they're worried that they've opened up too much. I think that's something that does happen when you sometimes speak to people. And, yeah, and as much if I'm going to be really, really open and, you know, sitting here in quite a hungover state, but I actually think that for me, when you're having a really open conversation and a conversation that's sort of from this that's deep and you're sort of really going to deal with some stuff alcohol

should never really i don't think be particularly present because i think there's moments it can make you sort of more candid and more open with stuff and how you're feeling but it's also a trigger to sort of bring on any kind of aggression and i think that there's times where alcohol can sort of yeah you you can you can you can judge things really really wrong you know cities it sounds like walking a straight line uh when you're being pulled over by a cop in a sort of american drama is almost like that with you that's that garden light of how you're going to deal with people's feelings and emotions and you're not dealing with someone in their sort of clear and present mind so someone who's drinking beer one night and going to tell you something he's drinking

wine or spirits another night those emotions are going to be sort of like pushed by the toxins that they're taking so i'd say actually to sort of you know it's a good thing you got in touch and you you when you're both sober i just think sometimes probably being wary that there's a time and place to have those conversations actually i would say as well that and i'm really really culpable of this and that is probably one of my favorite things about my relationship with romesh but i have friends that i love and i don't usually tell them unless i'm really drunk i seldom sort of tell them when I'm sober. And actually, we should probably try and focus more on doing that rather than getting absolutely wasted and saying I love you. And then, yeah.

So anyhow, I don't know if that's any good to you. But yeah, there we go. I liked it, Tom. I liked it. I would say, I know this feels like a cop-out, but I don't feel like we've got enough information to really make a judgment as to whether this person was out of order or not. What I would say is based on the information you have given, I know that this person will

have found it difficult. And look, I know this is like, I know people are going to say racism is racism, but I recently had an experience where I think I've talked about this before, where a close friend of mine said some stuff that I thought was blatantly homophobic. Yeah. And I found it really upsetting that somebody I was close to would say stuff like that. And then it does beg the question, well, is this person the person that I thought they were? Do you know what I mean?

And then you ask questions about whether you can be close to that person. The reason I bring it up is like, the question is, is this friend's wife aggressively racist, politically racist? You know, like just out and out kind of thinks that people of color are scum or whatever? Or is it that just as a point of like lack of education, not lack of education, but lack of awareness has said some racist things in the past or made some, like been prejudiced in a way that's sort of almost outside of her control and requires a bit of a talking to either way you know i don't know how extreme it is but um and you know listen i i you know i know as well as anybody that racism is is disgusting

but what i would imagine is is that this person has said has told you that when they did tell you and it was really difficult for them to tell you that and i imagine that they felt like they would have said it it's been dealt with and you to have moved beyond it and then when you bring it up however long later that person because it's such an a highly charged subject for them their assumption is is that that you've been thinking about that ever since and you know that isn't the case from what you've said. But I can understand why that person might have felt like that, that being your go-to point of reference.

So in answer to your question, I don't think either of you are particularly in the wrong. I feel like all it takes is a little bit of understanding from both sides. I feel like I understand why he would have got upset and offended by that. But I also understand why he would have got upset and offended by that but i also understand why you would have said it and not realize what the potential implications of that were so i think it's as simple as a misunderstanding really and and i think it's good that you reached out i would echo tom's point about alcohol and the fact that like initially people think it's a conversational lubricant, but I feel like I've had many more conversations that are, have been made worse as a result of alcohol than I have conversations that have been made better. I mean, you know, like I just feel like it's an inhibition remover, but to a fault, I would say.

So, um, look, good luck with it, man. Um, and I wish you the very look, good luck with it, man. And I wish you the very best. I hope you sort stuff out. Okay, next email. Dear Tom and Rom, this is from someone in Crawley. Oh, wow.

I'm late to the party, but clearing a pod a day on my daily walk around Forge Wood, which is in Crawley. Keep up the good work. I'm at the point where you did your first face-to-face pod in Newcastle and Ron was shithoused into an inferior hotel room. By the way, sound advice on tajin. Oh, I'd forgotten about that,

which is now very much up front and centre when the fruit comes out. Tajin? Tajin? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tom, in the early... do you remember those heady days when we actually had sort of varied content? Yeah. Tom, in the early days, has made a number of promises

on behalf of both of you to meet various fans and various guises, maybe without the appreciation of the logistics. So my question to you is, by purpose or chance, have you today actually met, videoed, called any of these civilians that you've promised that you'd get in touch with? Keep up the good work, and I may hear this again in six months' time, you sweet, sweet souls. So, Tom, I mean, listen, I know the answer to this, but I guess it's worth kind of illustrating.

So, of the numerous times, and look, to give credit where credit's due, you've slightly fallen out of this habit of promising everybody the emails and that you'll meet up with them. Have you, by accident or deliberately, met up with anybody that listens to the podcast? Yeah, I've by accident bumped into someone who, I don't think, I've bumped into two people who've written into the podcast and we've read their emails out. Right. And I don't know if I promised to meet them because as our friend here has rightly said, there was a time when that was my go-to. And at the time, if I'm honest with you, I was very heady and I was sort of like, you know, a bit like, I guess, King Arthur before he found the sword and the stone.

I was sort of like, you know, or like a bit like... Was he heady? Yeah, he was kind of a bit so i think so he was like kind of crazy about finding the stone and like basically being king but you know it's it's like i didn't for a second i actually had all best intentions of going to guy remember guy you know go and see guy i think he lived in dublin um yeah you know some of the other people that we promised a couple of weddings that we threw in and but you know what it what started to transpire is actually that like you weren't really up for it which i've sort of felt bad well first of all first of all i don't deliver that bit

of information like that was a surprise i i you're making it out like i said yeah i'll come with you and then like bailed out at the last minute. I told you from the very offset, I thought it was a terrible idea. I still, to this day, I'm not going to lie to you, Ron. There's a part of me that I don't think my life will ever be complete

if I don't, at least with you, try to go and see a few of those old faces. You know, just to sort of turn up. Like, when I go to my tour show in Dublin, I'd love to see guy see where he's at see what's going on there's people we've given look there's people we've given to advice to to and sort of over the years that i or the what is it when we do it's two years yeah yeah and and so there's times where you think i wonder how they're getting on

i wonder you know the job is there any part of you that what is there any part of you that worries that the reality of meeting us will be incredibly disappointing? Because I do feel that happens a lot when people, I mean, it happened with that kid and their mother at Centre Parcs. But like what I mean is a lot of the time when somebody comes up to me and talks to me and I'm not just saying this, but when people say they listen to the podcast, I always feel like they know you slightly better than anybody that's like watched anything else that we've done. But I always midway through the conversation think this isn't what you

hoped it was going to be. This paranoia kicks in and I just think, actually, it would have been better for your impression of me to not have met me. Do you ever worry about that? Yeah, I had that the other day. We were just out in town and i was just with grace i've gone and got like a coffee and a cake with her and the guy came up and was like i'm a really big fan of the podcast so i was like oh cool thank you man and

he was like um he started sort of being quite sort of quoting bits of it and chatting about stuff and i was with grace obviously i was quite yeah oh nice thank you man that's really really kind of you and then he just was like you actually really softly spoken in real life aren't you i said i'm with my like 19 months from tour like there was going to be a difference between how how i converse with romesh on the podcast or on stage when i'm on stage than there is when i'm in a parade of shots with my 90 if i start putting on a show now she's going to go what the he doing yeah um but he was quite aggressive about the fact that i wasn't putting on a shot like i wasn't you know and it was just a matter that it wasn't the time or place to be so yeah he left being massively disappointed in the fact that you know

he he thought he was going to make the wolf and he met a pathetic sort of stinky old dog that just had no real fucking... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. But, yeah, I mean, look, but then there's a part of me it's not about. I don't know, I genuinely, there's times when you read emails out, like the email we've just read out, right?

There's, like, I want more information there. I'm like, I kind of sort of feel that's quite an interesting thing and that's one of the things that i love most about doing this podcast is that you know like when we've there's a few things where we've i've been messaged on or dm'd about some advice we've given it's worked or something hasn't um i'd like to know that something's happened like that people have moved on like that You know and I guess it'd be nice to sort of shake hands and have a cold pint and even if it is a bit awkward Sometimes it's okay. It'll be awkward. Yeah. No, you're absolutely right. But the answer to your question mate. No, he hasn't Okay alright

Tomo it's about that time my guy and can I just say Tom I know you're hungover because you had a get together with your friends

you've been absolute dynamite on this man well no it's been a joy being with you as always and I do miss you and i have i've got to say it's it's uh i i much prefer ones we do them in person yeah me too and also but can i say we've been besieged by uh people offering us places to record a mukbang yeah yeah i saw that we've had some emails about

it as well yeah so um yeah i mean it definitely is going to happen, right? Yeah, it is going to happen. Yeah. And we've just got to pick. I don't see, have you had a corn dog yet? You don't have corn dogs, can you? No, I can't. It's a hot dog wrapped in corn, right?

Oh, they must be vegan corn dogs. Yeah, they probably do, but I can't imagine they're nice, are they? Yeah, I reckon that's one of the things we could have for the mukbangs. Okay, that's a great idea. Okay all right go then time what is a lawn if it's seldom mowed does it just become a field does it become somewhere for wasps and ants and flies and insects to hang out not just a pretty sheared lawn to stare over where couples can sunbathe and giggle with pints of cider and kids can run around and practice to ride a bike. Fact is that sometimes in life it's easy just to let the grass grow beneath your feet and think, hmm, I could do with a change but knowing this is too difficult. Sometimes in life it's easy just to pretend

that the dust upon your shelf is supposed to be there because it gives a look of a library or somewhere else that's unkempt. The truth of the matter is it's always good to fret and fray and try and keep things as neat and tidy as possible but sometimes we lack to do that in our own heads. Sometimes we let the grass grow long or the dust settle too deep. And actually, it's more harmful than good to allow that. It's good sometimes just to extinguish those things. The only way to do that is letting out how you feel and telling a friend or a loved one, yeah, the grass in my brain is growing a little bit too long and the dust is growing too

deep. And actually I'm feeling a little bit down. I'm feeling a little bit blue. And this might be because of the fact I'm hungover and last night I had conversations when I was drunk that I felt I let off a bit of steam. Or it could be just the fact I'm looking out my window right now thinking, shit, I should mow that lawn. to the matter is this tell your friends if you need them and be there to mow their lawns if they need you really really nice tom yeah i mean if i'm honest with you there that was genuine i looked outside and looked at the state of my lawn i thought actually that's probably should have done that when everyone came around yesterday. Well, look, for a song to play us out, I've been listening to, I think it's like got quite high.

I think it's quite high in the charts. I don't know if anybody cares about the charts anymore. But Chase and Status have done a song with friend of the podcast, Becky Hill, called Disconnect. I love this tune. So it's so good, isn't it? Do you know how I saw Big John Fisher dancing to this in his kitchen while he was eating a Chinese? Nice. You know what? Do you know how I saw Big John Fisher dancing to this in his kitchen while he was eating a Chinese?

Nice. You know what? He's a sweet song, Old Big John Fisher. Old Big John Fisher? Yeah. He doesn't need any more adjectives, does he? Huh? The Bosch King, King Bosch.

Sweet, sweet Old Big John Fisher. Yeah. You know who I mean, right? Yeah, John Fisher, yeah. Big Old John Fisher. Yeah, he likes the Chinese and stuff. I love Big John. Little John Fisher big old John Fisher yeah he likes the Chinese and stuff I love big John little John Fisher

is dead I love the Fisher family yeah yeah me too sweet sweet souls alright well let's play Disconnect guys

we'll see you next time take care of yourselves see you next week yeah bye bye bye bye

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