Wolf and Owl - S2 Ep 73: Friday Bonus & Sporting Fails

Episode Date: October 13, 2023

Bonus emails time! First we discuss some of our sporting disappointments and general lack of competitiveness, along with some recent feedback about recycling. Then it’s time for the main event - a real mix bag of questions on manscaping, calling out a friend for being racist, impressions of each other and a ‘would you rather’ challenge. Thanks for all your messages - keep them coming at [e-mail] Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com/ A Shiny Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Just kidding, every word in this song's about two grown men dressed up as a bird and a dog. Welcome to the bonus ting, it's the bonus ting, bonus ting inside your face, it is the bonus ting, it's time for the bonus episode of the Wolf of Arland ting, listen to the bonus ep, emails and ting. What I love is your energy is incredible when you get into this one you're so like you're like uh a marathon runner on the last level you can see the sort of the crowd and you can see the finish line yeah when i was a kid i i was like as you know very big yeah and we were doing a 400 meter race and managed to negotiate uh a 10 meter head start just based on my size the teacher let

me have a 10 meter head start and i really powered for the first 100 meters and i thought i was going to win it and then i came in last there's nothing quite isn't it a weird thing to think back to that of those days right when you were in head for like in the like the fucking front of a race in head of a race and you thought you might that might be the moment that changed all of your schooling if you could win that 400 metres

if you could fucking take that 100 metres that would be enough you wouldn't just you know you wouldn't just be the kid who fucking pissed himself

in the fucking year 8 in the fucking school canteen on his fucking fifth week at school you'd have a little bit more to your legacy you'd have a little bit more to your legacy.

You'd have won something. And like, almost like, actually, when I look back and think, every time I got close to that sort of moment in my life, like,

the anxiety, or almost the fucking fear of winning, and actually sort of doing it, and actually fucking, completely just ruined that moment. Like, I'd overly think the win before i'd even got close to the finish line yeah yeah yeah it's horrible yeah you you want it too

much yeah that's what happens did you were you good at any sports at school well thank you for asking it like that um i was terrible at all of them i was awful i was genuinely awful i find it remarkable i i think it's almost certain that you're better at football than me. I think it's almost definite. Yeah, but look, I adore my dad. My dad is literally my hero. My dad took over the school's B or C team as a coach. And I think in a lot of ways, just so we'd have a C team

and I could be a part of the C team because it wasn't good enough for the A or B team. And I always remember Carl Ridehoe with him when he had to tell me that I wasn't going to make the C team, but he was still going to carry on coaching them because he saw a lot of talent out there, a lot of underdog spirit. Like, knowing at the age of fucking seven or eight

that your destiny is to be essentially a ball boy or a fucking assistant manager is a pretty bleak one. Yeah, I used to play rugby a little bit, because I was quite big. And they looked at me and put me in the A team. I played a game for the A team, then moved down to the Bs, and then eventually found my level,

which was the C team. And even then I subbed for them sometimes. I think I've talked about it before. Listen, for somebody with the natural rugby physical attributes that I had to still be that shit, is that actually more of an achievement? I remember trying to take up chess because I thought that would be the one.

I remember going to a chess tournament because I think someone there at the school thought that there'd be one. I remember like going to a chess tournament because I think someone there at the school thought that there'd be sort of like this real sort of like, sort of, I wasn't an academic kid. And I think they thought, oh, actually, no, he might actually do it. It might be like an aggressive chess. I lost every game in this awful chess tournament.

We were playing against quite a posh school. As you well know, the schooling I had wasn't posh. But we had one teacher who I think was sort of trying to do kind of michelle pfeiffer kind of vibe of just sort of bringing chess i lost every game and at the end of it they gave me a little medal for sort of being the best sportsman because i didn't seem that i did i genuinely at this moment probably was about eight and i remember giving a medal like oh this is for best sportsmanship because you didn't seem upset about losing and i said eight, I'm just quite used to it. Oh, no.

That's just, that's so sad. It's really mad, isn't it? Because it's left me with a complete absence of competitiveness. Yeah. You know, because when you lose that much, you sort of stop caring. And as you just said, and when you do League of Their Own and as you just said and we need to league of

their own and you you work with sports people not just sports people that says quite a few comedian comedians that I'd say I've got very very yeah that's true but but they just I can't relate to having a competitive spirit I can't I haven't got it no I mean I just and you know sometimes like freddie or jamie or mike i think mike had sort of watched enough of the show to know that had nothing about me but that's sort of going to me do you know we've got to win this and i go like do we do you know like in the new series do we got to win this who's the most competitive i've ever been with on there and by the way i would say she's brilliant and i think she's hilarious jill scott is there to win very competitive yeah she's very competitive shout out jill scott by the way because she was like she's brilliant and I think she's hilarious. Jill Scott is there to win. Very competitive. She's very

competitive. Shout out Jill Scott by the way because she was so quick, so funny. I am excited to see how people's

response to Jill Scott on that show. She's brilliant man. I'm not saying this is part of some sort of PR

thing. I'm not saying this is like I'm trying to pump up the show. She's unbelievable on it. Yeah, I think

she's great. I was lucky enough to be on her team and she's really, but she genuinely gave us a team talk before and said to me I really want to win and I don't want to give a spoiler away but yeah, I mean I felt like yeah, I was the sort of like yeah, the albatross that she didn't

need. I sometimes play FIFA against the computer and at the end just sort of be like well fair play mate, you've smashed that you you know sometimes i think the playstation's gonna go do you want to give us a game do you know what i mean like against the bot just being like oh no no fair play you deserve that mate take that with you uh before well i say before we start we spent seven minutes absolutely wasting everyone's lives here, but we've had a few emails in about the environment thing. Oh, okay. And what they've said is, first of all, I was sort of right, not as much recycling

of that stuff gets recycled. I got criticized for my comparison with a long haul flight because they're two completely different things. Okay. But what they did, what the unanimous thing is recycling you you are you are making a difference if you recycle really yeah that's good then so i'll just keep doing i thought you'd find that reassuring yeah i feel good about that so i kept can i just apologize because i actually did get it in the neck a little bit really because well people thought i was being dismissive about

recycling that wasn't my intention my intention was to sort of say they're making us do this or suggesting that we do this is actually worth everyone's time is actually making a difference and it turns out it is so i'm sorry that is an actually very very important trait in humanity is that you've held out your hands and said you got it wrong well yeah and if only some of the politicians would do that am i right he'll go tick tock he's back uh the other the other the other thing that they said was is that reusing is actually more impactful than recycling yeah i've got an old plastic bottle i use all the time for water so well there you go and that's that's probably what's going to be the thing that if they're sort of calling out one thing that's really made the tipping point for the what you've

done there you've you've said something that we should be doing that. I've just openly admitted and sort of like said, I'm doing, and you said, no, no, no, because what you've done there, what you've done there is you,

you, and you know exactly what you fucking done. Okay. You know, exactly. You're so gleeful is you've taken the piss and open the door, knowing that I jump in on it, knowing that what you would do is just absolutely fucking hammer punch me in the back

as I walk through the door that you opened. It's also worth saying while we're here that... You're so happy with yourself. I walked into the trap like a little man. Oh, that looks like some nice cheese over there that Tom's left for me let me go see let me go

I think he's put out some of that smoked Bruder Basel cheese that I love let me have a little nibble, oh god my back my back it's also worth saying as well guys that for the live show on the 2nd of november so a few tickets left but also um there uh then we all need emails for that show so if you're

coming to the show you've got a problem or a misdemeanor or something going on in your life uh email in and uh yeah we'll get those up and running i would almost be impressed that you remember to suggest that but then i remember that you're on tour with grats last night and grats would have told you to do yeah grats did tell me to slitches on that so so can you just put if you're coming to the apollo show can you put apollo email yeah it's part of the thing and then and then whatever the subject of your email is okay so that we know to sift them for the for the actual live shows and then what what we'll do is we'll have a screen there we'll put them up on the ones that we know to sift them for the actual live shows. And then what we'll do is we'll have a screen there. The ones that we select, we'll put them up on the screen

and we'll shout you out on the night. And if you don't want to be shouted out on the night, just go, don't draw attention to me. Yeah, I mean, we've almost just done the T's and C's there, mate. Yeah, I think I have. Thanks once again to The Swan. Is The Swan coming to the live show? Oh, is The swan coming?

Just a bit, mate. Did you know hers is coming? Not the cat. The cat is going to be there, her first live show. We're going to see the paws of the cat open the door on the Apollo, are we? Yeah, and the beak of the swan. Why did I say that? Both in attendance.

Both sitting there, just shaking their heads there. Well, that's something to look forward to. I actually suggested toisa that we we'd bring her out on stage yeah the reaction was absolutely disgusting to that so yeah yeah so if you're expecting to see them i would say it's unlikely yeah but just know that they'll be there yeah uh okay this is from the spaniard who says hello you sweet sweet boys i'm in a pretty good. It's too far. I can really do with some advice. On a recent outing to the gym, I returned to the locker room sweating like Big Tommy D, devouring a madras. Oh, that's nice.

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Is it normal behaviour to keep yourself neat in this way thanks so much love the pod the cocker spaniel the well trimmed cocker spaniel by the sounds of it

yeah I've said about 7 things since this bonus episode has started that I've regretted one is the brooder basil mousetrap thing

the other one is just what I did there the well trimmed cocker spaniel yeah you've got a bit of a cold you've got some sniffles in you The other one is just what I did there, the well-trimmed cocker spaniel. Yeah. You've got a bit of a cold, though. You've got some sniffles in you. Yeah, but it's making me really terrible.

Anyway, go on. Do you trim your bush? Yeah, I have a little trimmer. Yeah, I try to keep it as best, like, not overly so. I went through a stage of really, really, like, getting down to the root. I went close for a while just like stubble

like colour me bad in the 90s yeah and it was that's a good reference yeah I've let it sort of like I've let it grow out a little bit more now I'm not quite as sort of like brutal as a like I found it very uncomfortable

going that close but yeah i think i think she right yeah itchy for a while yeah yeah i find the bum thing itchier you have you got a hairy butt you got a hairy bum uh i very rarely look at my bum because i'm so ashamed of it but uh i do think it is quite hairy yeah yeah have you ever shaved it how far in are we talking do you mean the cheeks yeah you don't go to the i mean you can't you give you a little give a little nip and tuck around the fucking crack but you don't go fucking deep inside the crack i don't think i've ever trimmed my butt or that area no because i'll tell you let me tell you in the summer you trim your butt hair the itchiness is especially

if you're away and you're going swimming and you know like the netting being swimming trunks that's like a torture it's awful yeah like really really bad but yeah i think that i've been each their own i think a little i think a little trim up is nice i think i think listen you know without being around the bush excuse the plan arguably that's the worst one now yeah well it was sort of accidental and then i sort of carried on. The penis and bush area is probably one of the ugliest things in nature. Yeah. So I think anything you can do to sort of make that look a little bit more presentable is probably positive. Are you trimming your balls as well? Yeah.

Have you got a manscaper? No, I've just got a separate... Also, by the way, is a manscaper fucking supporting every other male podcast apart from ours now. Well, I guess they've looked at us and thought, I mean, why would we get two of the hairiest men in comedy to fucking get involved with manscaping?

Yeah, but fucking... Well, I probably use them more than anyone else. Yeah, I just use an old beard trimmer. I don't know. You have to be very careful, though. Old Rusty. He's fucking so grim

just to throw an old smelly beard fucking chipper. I haven't really cleaned it much. It sounds like an old chainsaw when you fire it up. Just a bit of masking tape with Rob's pubes. Rob Dick Shaver. Do not use on faith. But yeah, I think it's a good thing, too. But if somebody wasn't doing that, do not use on faith but yeah I think it's a good thing too

but you know if somebody wasn't doing that I wouldn't I don't think I would be no I don't think it's I don't think it's I think the thing as well yeah each day right

I think it's very much like haircuts you know beard cuts I think some people like them longer some people like them shorter yeah you know and what a wonderful

what a wonderful world it is that you know everyone can do what they want yeah you know yeah free to do whatever you want

with your pubes and such so yeah keep doing you keep on keeping your pubes nice and delicate and nicely done

but yeah go on what's the end of that sentence I was about to sort of go back for a blast

of a class and say if anyone's got any interesting Viva hair shapes and designs, ping them into Romesh. But then I remembered it was Lisa who opened the emails. Yeah, exactly. You're basically asking her to get dick pics.

No, no, no. I'm busy inviting dick pics to my wife. Also, it's quite a big thing to put a pattern in your pubic hair because it's quite unruly, isn't it? I wouldn't mind like a heart around it. Wow, that'd be quite romantic. Do that for Valentine's Day. For Valentine's, yeah.

Would you go the heart on top? Would you do the heart? I'd do the heart around it so that Dick's grown out of it like a turkey head. Like a turkey head. Yeah, it's quite a nice look. Maybe a star would be quite good. That's a great idea. It's quite a nice look I'd like to Maybe a star Would be quite good

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this so can you call me the stoned goat greatest of all time or weird bearded creature that screams a lot i'll let you decide i recently took your advice about calling out a friend if they're being racist let's just say it didn't go as planned it quickly became very heated won't go into much detail but you got very defensive and tried to justify it by saying things like it's just a bit of a laugh and there's more racist people out there there's a lot more racist people out there than me my questions to you sweet sweet souls are as follows how would you go about calling out a friend for being racist what would you do if the friend in question is closed mind and and doesn't agree with any of your points? How would you defuse the situation if it got heated?

Side note, me and my partner were meant to be seeing Rom in Exeter on October 14th, but it's October 14th, but it's been cancelled due to flood damage. The rescheduled date doesn't work for us, so we've had to get a refund. We're hoping you'll do some live shows down south sometime soon that we'll be able to come along to. Thanks for taking the time to read this long-winded

email. Much love to all the sweet, sweet souls involved in the pod. Keep doing you to the max, the stone goat. Shout out to the MVP, the one and only JT, the glue that holds this beautiful structure together. I'm just going to quickly throw in, actually, before I give you some advice. If you have got some money for Romesh's tickets, squabbling about,

Bournemouth isn't that far away from Exeter. Bournemouth is far away from Exeter. Is it? Yeah. Well, with the savings you make on Romesh's tickets being almost double the price of mine. Wow. Wow. Wow.

You could probably get a nice holiday in or a travel lodge and come to Bournemouth. I thought Bournemouth and Exeter were still quite close. You're looking, aren't you? I'm looking it up right now for you. Two hours, 37 minutes. Okay, yeah. Maybe that's a bit of a push, but I know for a fact that I am in Exeter as well.

So, yeah, there we go. First over, first quenched. So, yeah, when it comes to corner, number one. Just before you carry on, I just want to know, because what you've just done there, you've said it very casually, but I just want to know, is that how it's going with it? No, it's not. No, no, no.

No, but that, because what you've done there is, you've directly marketed to people that are coming to see me to come to your... No, no, no. No, no, no. I just want to know, is that how we're doing it? Look, I'm just trying to establish what the rules of the game are here. So is that how we're playing this? No, no, no. I just want to know, is that how we're doing it? Look, I'm just trying to establish what the rules of the game are here. Is that how we're playing this?

No, no, no. No, no, I was just saying... Because up to this point, I've been bigging up your tour. No, I'm bigging up yours. I'm bigging up yours all the time. When? At the end of all my shows,

I turn around and say, oh, by the way, rubbish is on. No, you don't. I was at your fucking show. You didn't even do it when I was there. Yeah, because that would have been eggy for you.

You'd have felt awkward. What, eggy and then bringing my brother on for an emotional, crawly fucking special night? I could wear a T-shirt of your tour. Your tour's special. It's selling out already. Everywhere I go, all I get is, oh, Romesh is coming here

and we've already brought tickets for like 2027. I'm like, fucking hell. It's next year, Tom. Again, that's strike two now where you've put a little boot in ok ok come on darling ok go on then do the advice

so firstly I think I credit you for calling out racism of any type and I'd say that the response that you've been met with is sadly quite a common one. And that sort of, that awful sentiment of, oh, there's people out there who are more racist than me,

in itself is just about the most fucking idiot, idiotic thing you can say in response to someone calling, like, you know, because there's no such thing as, it's like being, you can't just be a little bit pregnant. You're either pregnant or you're not and you're either racist or you're not and you can't just be a little bit racist or qualify it by going,

oh, there's other people who are more racist. It's an abhorrent thing to be and you shouldn't be, yeah, they shouldn't be that at all. But knowing that if that's their response and knowing how they're justifying those kinds of beliefs, the truth of it really is that I think you'd struggle to get through to anyone and get a valid point across and I think it's really worthwhile trying to do at times and I really believe that you know but when someone comes up with a response like that to being called out

and becomes aggressive you sort of you know hit your head against a brick wall really I think it's they've made up their mind that there's not they they probably know deep down what I said wrong but the truth is they're never ever going to turn around and admit that and what they're doing is validating the bullshit that they're coming up with by saying oh yeah it's worse people out there

so look credit for you for doing that but it's a really difficult thing I've had so many arguments like that and yeah we're talking about it's a really difficult thing. I've had so many arguments like that and sort of, and, and yeah, well it's,

you know, we're talking about like, you know, homophobia or, you know, trans or racism and you try and call someone out and you try and have that,

try and put a, sort of what's right and what's right, wrong. And there's, there's no area of gray in this. You're either a racist or you're not.

There's not a middle ground for me and yeah so credit to you but I would be yeah it's a really difficult thing to change people's opinions even to the point where you speak to them and say and give them evidence of what they're saying is racist

or is homophobic and then trying to qualify that it's not yeah it's very difficult so that credit for you for doing so and keep on fighting a good fight and it's always good to hear that you've got people like yourself out there so god bless you yeah I'd sort of echo a lot of Tom's sentiments there I mean I don't hear a lot I don't't get people, you know, very rarely do I hear racism from a friend about someone else for obvious reasons.

But I do think that, well, first of all, what I'd like to say is I'd like to say thank a minority calls out racism, I just appreciate it so much because, you know, it's just an amazing thing to do. And you could easily just let it slide. And you chose not to. And that's like a great thing to do. when I was a teacher, one of the things that we got told about disciplining kids is like, if you say to a kid, um, you're bad.

The difference between that and the reaction you get from the kid and saying your behavior is bad is massive in terms of like, it's a difference between saying the kid is a certain way and saying that what they're doing is wrong. And the psychological difference of that is massive and the reason i mentioned it in this context is calling somebody a racist is much more inflammatory than saying what you just said is racist because what you're doing is you're putting a bit of distance between them and what they said and i think that's kind of the way to play is to say to somebody because if you accuse somebody being racist they're immediately on the defensive which sounds like what your friend is and i don't know

how you handled it so um but if you're saying to that person you're almost acknowledging because they won't believe themselves to be racist you're almost acknowledging that they're not a racist but what they said is offensive and racist what you're doing is you're putting a bit of distance between them and what they said and even though that might not be 100% how you feel it will it will probably lead them to think about it in a way that they don't they don't immediately go on the defensive and you know just explain to somebody why that's the wrong thing to do i think that the sort of racist sexist homophobic language that was sort of acceptable as banter years ago. I think that being a race, some people sort of argue that that's a shame because it's,

you know, banter being, you know, taken out of the equation of it. But I think it's like in many ways, not in almost every way, it's a positive thing because you're not normalizing that behavior. And it should be shocking when somebody says something like that because if somebody feels comfortable you know I would feel really uncomfortable if I encountered a group of white people and I knew that they'd been making jokes racist jokes but then they were like well you don't say that to them you know but it's alright for them to say amongst themselves I'd fit I would hate that to be the case I know it is the case and a lot of things i know that there's lots of people that sort of bandy about that kind of

language and stuff like that and they would never say it to you because they don't consider themselves to be racist but the fact that they would say stuff like that i think is disgusting i'm not saying it's always going to be about asians or whatever you know racism takes many forms so look i've sort of talked around the houses but i think it's like a way of like how you tackle that without being inflammatory without getting that person on the defensive straight away i think is it is an important thing but above and beyond all of that well done for doing it and i hope that that hasn't put you off doing it in the future you know it takes people like you to kind of call it out for it to sort of start to disappear um so well done off doing it in the future you know it takes people like you to kind of call it out for

it to sort of start to disappear um so well done for doing it absolutely 100 well done we both applaud you so thank you um well done so okay what do you think one more one more my baby my little prince um oh i don't know why this one's included this, because this actually requires a little bit of... Okay, well, let's just see. This is from The Happy Hyena Cackle. Hello to you both. My husband and I are regular listeners of the show, which acts as a wonderful shared tonic to the hustle and bustle of balancing work-family life. We're very much looking forward to Tom's show in Norwich, and we'll manage to get tickets for Romesh's show one day, hopefully.

One thing that always makes us chuckle is the regular bit tom does of romesh and it's refreshing to see that a similar bit of romesh acting as tom is appearing more and more frequently our challenge is this please could you make a conversation with the two of you with romesh's tom and thomas romesh wow thanks for bringing the light through many a darker moment i mean it's quite a ok cool ok I mean I'll probably start with one of your catchphrases so I was having a little look on

TikTok the other day and having a little stream through and I found can I just stop you there can I just stop you there now listen I absolutely love the bones of you I adore you more than any other human being on the planet. Now, here we go.

Another punch in the old face. But, genuinely, that might be one of the worst things that's ever been uttered by a member of humanity. Like, you're on TikTok. Have a look at yourself. Like, I love you. I love you. But that might be the saddest thing you've ever said.

Do you know what I mean? And I don't want to get persnickety about it, but it really is. So can I stop you there? Can I stop you there, right? You've just said persnickety. Now, persnickety, right, ain't a word, Tom, mate. Persnickety.

Okay, but you know what I meant. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let me correct you you as is my way for Snuggity isn't a word it's for Snickety sorry who decided it was for Snickety

sorry somebody just decides the words and that's what we've got to go with the whole time yes Tom that's how words and grammar and mathematics work the elders of our culture come up with such and since. Okay, well, I think what we've established there, if anything, is that the requisite impressions of each other are much more harsh on me than they are on Tom.

Your impression's really good, by the way. I will give you that. It's actually one of my favourite things. Yeah, okay. And I think, can I just say to the Swan, thank you for picking that email because that's a really lovely way to end.

Thank you so much. I mean, as it carried on, I just thought, I've got much less ammo here than Tom. I've got into, I've fucking taken a jammed donut to a knife fight. Let's just do one more quickly

because this is actually quite quickly answered. So this is from Mac. To the lovely Will Fowl and Swan, thanks for checking in on my email. I've been thinking about this for weeks now. Straight to the point. Would you rather?

This is a would you rather. A, take a year hiatus from your friendship where you're not allowed to speak with each other or mention each other's names. Okay, that's option number one. Option number two,

take a year's hiatus from your jobs as actors, comedians and entertainers. Okay? Three, have JT go rogue because he's had enough of your shit and release leaked versions of all your podcasts with the bleeped out content left in.

Those are the three options. Okay, which one would you go for? Number one, three, I don't think we say a lot of stuff on here that's unhearable. I think JT is incredible,. I don't think we say a lot of stuff on here that's unhearable. I think JT is incredible, but I don't think we say anything too mean. So I'm sort of going to take that one out of the equation. And I'd probably say it would be, I'd go B.

I'd feel very lost if I didn't have you to talk to and your friendship for a year. And as much as that might make us, after a year, go, oh my God, I don't think I could get through a year. I'd find it a lot easier to get through a year not working than I would not seeing you. I would agree with you, Tom. Exactly the same.

I take you, and listen, there's absolutely no doubt about it. I regret it at the end, having had a year of just sort of continuing to talk to you and watching my career go down the fucking swannyanny but that is the option i would initially take so there you go i don't think releasing the bleep content would be that bad no i think we're pretty open on here i think there's you know there's a couple i can think of as we say that i think it's probably career ending but apart from that i mean i believe these names but I think actually we're very much ahead of the curve with old bleep the name

JT but yeah yeah I think I think we went in on before it was fashionable yeah yeah

yeah I think everyone's doing it yeah there we go yeah alright well listen thank you so much for listening to the

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