Wolf and Owl - S2 Ep 77: Space Food & Scandalous Seeds

Episode Date: November 1, 2023

We’re talking… party Tom, old-school hotel rooms, lost light switches, catering in space and astronaut caretakers, moon tourism, asking a stranger the time, party icebreakers, round two of the gre...at fruit & veg seed debate, DIY successes, eureka moments, first day filming and looking good (or bad) in lycra. For questions or comments please email us at wolfowlpod@gmail.com - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com/ A Shiny Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: HELLO@KEEPITLIGHTMEDIA.COM Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:07 is not suited to being thrown in the bottom of a rucksack. So I'm recording on the, apologies for my sound quality, I'm using a laptop mic, but, you know, to give that some context, Tom never apologises and his sound is... Whoa, whoa, whoa, what a whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa everyone i'm pretty hungover today well yeah i mean you said you don't need to level with me i uh i received a series of text messages from you last night the first one made some sort of sense but required a follow-up and then i think you text me the words pod shaker and then you said i'm lemmored in a pub or something and i i called you and i got to see for the first time i think the real sort of party tom you know and and i would say very friendly very loving but with an edge is how i would
Starting point is 00:03:16 describe it you know you know what is i regressed into a place where i almost regressed to sort of my early 20s where I had a few beers and then sat on my own in a Burger King and had my dinner in a train station. Yeah, I know, because you told me it like, you said it to me like, it was one of the weirdest brags I've ever heard. I spoke to you when you were on your way home and you went, anyway, mate mate I'll speak to you tomorrow
Starting point is 00:03:45 I called you like three times yesterday within about an hour so so excited was I just to talk to you yeah and then on the last one
Starting point is 00:03:53 you went anyway mate I'll speak to you tomorrow on the podcast I'm about to smash my way through a Burger King and then head home see you later
Starting point is 00:03:59 you know because that sounds glamorous in a lot of ways but actually does it no it doesn't but actually what i realized is i could have paid for the burgee king um and then kept you on the phone and checked because actually what happened was i just sat on my own uh like on a
Starting point is 00:04:17 fucking platform uh yeah i don't i don't like being put on the phone while people are paying for it happens to me a lot that a that. A lot of my mates do this, where they call you on the way to something. Actually, I think I might have even done this to you. You've done it to me, yeah. Being on the other end of it, it's weird, isn't it? I try and put the person off
Starting point is 00:04:38 during the transaction if I can, which is fun if it works, but if it doesn't, it's just a bit... You feel a bit thirsty when you're full of liquor and you think that it's
Starting point is 00:04:49 you think everyone's having a wild ride but I can imagine sitting listening to me eating a Whopper and chips and six chilli cheese bites isn't quite as anonymous as yeah you might think
Starting point is 00:05:02 yeah listen I think you're hungover so we'll let Anonymous go. Can I say, I think chili cheese bites are a dangerous game. Oh, I've lost you. You've paused. Hello, I lost you there. Your Wi-Fi is terrible. Well, I'm on hotel Wi-Fi. I don you there. Your Wi-Fi is terrible. Well, I want hotel Wi-Fi.
Starting point is 00:05:26 I don't know. Can I just say, by the way, are you staying at a hotel or a nursing home? Mate, I swear to God, if you look at this, I think we're redoing Fawlty Towers. Like, it's fucking... Mate, look how old school it looks, man.
Starting point is 00:05:44 It's so old school. The curtains are a madness, aren't they? Yeah. To be fair, that lamp in the background, for a while I thought was a bubblegum machine. Mm, yeah. I mean, I would say in a hotel room, if I was going to take a stab in the dark
Starting point is 00:06:00 at what something might be, my first guess would be lamp, and then I'd go to bubblegum machine sometime after about 10 other options but that was your that was your lead that was your lead guest was it yeah i mean i know how bougie you are and i know that you're not i could imagine that you would be the sort of person you turn up at a hotel and sort of say have you got a room with a bubblegum machine could i have the bubblegum machine by the bed because what i like to do is brush my teeth get into bed and then have a sugary snack just to let the decay set in um i had a last night
Starting point is 00:06:31 it's my first night at the hotel it's very nice do you mean like it's sort of uh does the fire work the open fire or is that just a dummy yeah well there's wood in it so i see me can use it oh i won't i won't be and there be. And there's a big fire down in the hallway downstairs, a big open fire that crackles as you move your way through the book. This is a bougie way of life for you. It's not bougie. It's not bougie. It's sort of old school kind of like hotel.
Starting point is 00:07:01 But last night, so can you see where see where i am now right so the bed can that that lamp is by the bed right that lamp is by the bed that's the bed there were you joking what in the what is it like an alcove with the curtains around you in the windows yeah yeah all right and um uh the the light switch is behind that headboard, the main light switch for the room. So last night, I was, like, knackered. I just fell on... I sort of got dressed, brushed my teeth, undressed, rather. I don't get dressed for bed.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Got undressed. I love the idea of you wearing one of those night dresses and a little hat. And then I fell asleep, but then woke up at one in the morning, and the lights were on and I sort of walked around here at like half one. You know like in the middle of the night
Starting point is 00:07:50 how shit feels a lot more extreme than it normally does? So I was just sort of walking around, my boxers just go out loud. Where the fuck is this fucking night switch? I walked downstairs. What, in your pants? No, I put a t-shirt on a t-shirt
Starting point is 00:08:07 you do some tracksuit bottoms as well yeah yeah some tracksuit bottoms as well and what I did was I put a t-shirt
Starting point is 00:08:13 on tracksuit bottom sliders but then I just had my dick out sort of over the waistband of the joggers and then the guy said to me
Starting point is 00:08:22 the light switch is behind the Did he come up to show you? He went to come up to show me but I felt so bad for him. I said don't worry about coming up man. If you just describe I'll figure it out. And switching the lights off felt like a real eureka moment
Starting point is 00:08:38 for me. You can't be taking all the credit because he's done half the work for you. No, but I mean, it wasn't a eureka moment. Like, I felt proud of myself. I felt very ashamed of myself that I had to go down to reception to ask how to switch the lights off in the hotel room.
Starting point is 00:08:55 When I say eureka moment, I felt like the euphoria, like the joy I felt at darkness breaking in the room. Yeah, because you can't, you're essentially there, you're a bit like one of the other fellas on the uh like spaceship that went to the moon like neil armstrong's done all the hard collar and the guy who's driven it you're a bit like the fella who's just like made like teas and coffees and stuff you can't take credit for actually driving to the moon you could just like you've just basically just got there for other people helping you i mean as
Starting point is 00:09:22 as reaches go i'd say fucking thrown a rope and hook out there, mate. No. No, you know what I'm saying? Like, if your name, you know, like Jeff Plum, right? He's just like, oh, you know, Jeff. Yeah, he'd go into the pubs going, oh, yeah, I remember when we flew to the moon. And someone would go, oh, Jeff, you didn't really fly there.
Starting point is 00:09:42 You just, you would, like, cater it. You did all the catering. I think the guy that does the catering. I think the guy that does the catering on the rocket that goes to the moon still deserves some
Starting point is 00:09:50 credit Tom. He could be doing the catering on a PR ferry. It doesn't matter. No he's still got to be space
Starting point is 00:09:57 trained. You don't just grab someone from Greggs and go you've had the call up mate. Put this fish bowl on your
Starting point is 00:10:04 head and bring that trolley with you. There's a bit more to it than that. Yeah, but he's got the least amount of training. Sure. You're not going to let him press buttons and stuff. Yeah, he's got the least amount of training on a space mission. Yeah, but they're basically turning around to him.
Starting point is 00:10:18 They're going, oh, can you use... Let's put to one side that you don't have catering on a space mission, all right, at this current stage. I'm sure it'll be in the future. Are you joking me? I've made the mistake... What the fuck? Well, you don't have catering on a space mission, alright, at this current stage. I'm sure it'll be in the future. Are you joking me? Serious? I've made the mistake. What the fuck? Well, you don't have catering when you're on a spaceship. No. Of course you do.
Starting point is 00:10:30 They've got food on there. Romesh, you're not going for a long weekend to the moon. You could be out there for weeks. Yes, I know, but they don't have somebody who's specifically required to make sandwiches, Tom, on the spaceship. Mate, if you go on a P&O ferry, Romesh, you get catering. Yeah, that's a P&O ferry. You understand the difference. go on a P&O ferry, Romesh, you get catering. Yeah, that's a P&O ferry. You understand the difference.
Starting point is 00:10:45 You keep using P&O ferry as an example for space travel, okay? They also don't have a comedian who's on there dying on his arse every night. So that's another difference. In all fairness, mate, I think maybe they should actually have, like, I actually sometimes feel sorry
Starting point is 00:11:02 for the people on those space missions and think, how boring is it? Because, for example, right, I don't know about you. This isn't, by the way, before you go into this little mini rant that I'm sure you're about to go into, there's another example of Tom Davis saying things that I'm not convinced he actually genuinely believes. No, this is, I swear I believe it.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Okay, fine. The other day, for example, right, everyone's like, oh, yeah, I don't know, like one of these star consternations or whatever's coming out and everyone gets excited or like there's a shooting star or the moon's never been bigger. One of these fucking things that, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:31 the other week, for example, it was a blue moon, right? And everyone gets really excited. For me, the moon didn't look any different and I'm not taking anything away
Starting point is 00:11:36 from the moon. It's doing a great job, but I didn't think it looked What is the moon's job, do you believe, Tom? Uh, the opposite of the sun,
Starting point is 00:11:43 right? Just, I guess, he's like the night watchman in a way. Yeah, What job do you believe, Tom? The opposite of the sun, right? I guess he's like the night watchman, in a way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just got to make... He's just got to get a couple of runs in before play stops in the evening and then comes back in in the morning, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Does the moon actually have a job? It's not actually got a job, is it? I don't believe the sun or the moon have jobs, mate. Well, the sun has, because the sun gives us light. Yeah, but that's not his job. That's just a happy accident. Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean...
Starting point is 00:12:14 You really just believe so. Well, yeah. I don't even know. I don't want to get into all that. But my point being this, right? Yeah. Is you can look at the stars or the moon for about five minutes and go, fucking hell, that's just pretty amazing, maybe ten.
Starting point is 00:12:28 If you've got to do that every day... Do you remember that time? Oh, bloody hell. Catherine, you're right. Yeah, Tom's inside. I had to put the sunglasses on. He'd been looking at the fucking sun for ten minutes. Directly at it.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Mad bastard. Yeah, he can't see out of his right eye at all. He actually said, finally, I'll get to be a bit like Rom. And he's just sort of laid down inside but if you if you were up there for ages and all you had to look at right is nothingness you would need like if you had a comedian there and you like that and and also like the fact that you haven't like i don't know what even space food they have up in spaceships on the shoot assuming it's not a fucking, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:06 I thought they'd at least have someone making them decent grub, like, to keep their energy up. They do have food. I'm not suggesting they don't have food, but isn't it like, I mean, I start to, I feel like it's two idiots here, but one idiot is slightly more idiotic than the other idiot, because I don't actually know. But, like, isn't it like
Starting point is 00:13:25 you can get those packets of like dried space food and shit can't you yeah but someone's got to be in charge of those
Starting point is 00:13:31 yeah but they just take them up don't they it's like you don't have you're going to have someone who's in charge
Starting point is 00:13:37 of driving the spaceship Tom it's incredibly expensive to send people into space they're not going to have someone who's just in charge
Starting point is 00:13:43 of sandwiches no but there's going to be someone who's just in charge of sandwiches. No. But there's going to be someone who's in charge of cleaning up sandwiches. No. There's not a janitor. There's not a catering person. There's no matron.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Okay. Yeah, but if someone turns around and goes, oh, Neil's cut himself on his space suit, right? It's like, all right, come here. Let me just get all these. I'll do the sandwiches and I'll have a look at his cut. Okay. Neil's cut himself on his space suit, right? It's like, all right, come here. Let me just get all these. I'll do the sandwiches and have a look at his cut.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Okay, so now you're opening the job up a little bit, aren't you? Yeah, that's what I mean. There's someone who's doing the odd jobs. Yeah, I assume that those responsibilities are handed out amongst the astronauts that are already there. I don't believe. Mate, any money, right? I'll bet you now. Any money?
Starting point is 00:14:29 Well, not any money. I'll bet you right i'll bet you a dinner of your choice right that if you went through the astronauts you've got like top end captain i'm like driving it then you've got his lieutenant or whatever you've got like people who are doing the sort of like high-end stuff there will be a guy who's essentially like me like a laborer who's just doing like the odds and odds and sods. I think the space programme has got to be opened up a hell of a lot before somebody like you or me gets invited up to sort of do the odds and sods
Starting point is 00:14:54 No, but there's got to be someone who's going and making the bets. On a fucking spaceship. Yeah, but I think, even if that's not a thing, that's one thing, if I ever get the chance to meet someone from NASA,
Starting point is 00:15:03 I'll say, hey, what's going on with, it'd be nice if you could just open it up and get someone who's got less qualifications it could be like getting the food making the beds just so then it's someone who's a normal person essentially and what do you think they'll say well uh do you know what we've been looking for the insight of somebody that has absolutely no fucking idea what happens on these so yes please it's one thing to get an outsider's take to get a fucking idiot's take that's got no idea what actually does happen currently that feels like a maverick move do you know what i mean also can i say it feels now like all this because people are going on
Starting point is 00:15:36 holiday to the moon right i don't i know they're sort of they're offering space they're starting to offer in space like something richard branson's thing is like that's what they're moving to offer in space flights, aren't they? Richard Branson's thing is like, that's what they're moving to, isn't it? And Elon Musk, right? Yes, I believe so. I don't know. I know that, hasn't Richard Branson got, is it Galactic or something like that? Would you ever do that?
Starting point is 00:15:58 Listen, it would have to have a lot more years under its belt of it running all right before I sort of decided to have a go. Yeah, but also, I can't see why you'd want to go and that be your summer holiday. Well, I don't, yeah. I don't think you're doing it for two weeks currently. I think it's just like up and down.
Starting point is 00:16:16 What do you mean? So how long do you go up for? The way you're talking is like they've put a butt lens on the moon. It's literally, you just... I realise it's that, but if you're spending half a million pounds, you're not going to be happy if you're literally going like they've put a butt lens on the moon it's literally you just i realize it's that but if you're spending half a million pounds you're not like going to be happy if you're literally going to end back you want to have a little pop about sort of see what else is going on i think i i think part of the premium is the fact that you're actually going up into space you
Starting point is 00:16:38 know it's not like it's not like you like basically the prop i don't think it's for people like you that would compare it to Tenerife. Do you know what I mean? No. My point is this, right? Why would you even want to go up there when you can see YouTube videos and stuff of it? It's not going to blow you...
Starting point is 00:16:58 Well, yeah. My counter-argument to that would be you can also see YouTube videos of Magaluf, but you still do go everywhere. No, but that's different because you get the weather, right, and you get the heat, and you feel like you're on holiday, and you actually get to relax your body and your mind. I would argue anyone who gets on a spaceship and is going up to the moon
Starting point is 00:17:16 is the least relaxing thing you could do in your life. Sure. The idea of terror and thinking that out of spaceships, I mean, I'm going to throw it out there, this isn't like, don't quote this, like 90% of spaceships fucking
Starting point is 00:17:29 fail and crash, right? There's probably more that have been crashed and burnt than have been successful,
Starting point is 00:17:35 right? Not true, but okay. Do you mean with people in? No, no, no,
Starting point is 00:17:41 fully. Oh yeah, I think that's probably true. They've probably had more failed attempts than successful ones. I think that's probably true. So it's an arse-clenching time, right? Yeah, no, no, no, fully. Oh yeah, I think that's probably true. They probably had more fad attempts than successful ones.
Starting point is 00:17:45 I think that's probably true. So it's an arse clenching time, right? Yeah. When you're up in a spaceship, you're not going to be sitting there going, oh,
Starting point is 00:17:52 this is quite relaxing. You're like, oh, what's that noise? Oh, why did it shudder like that? Yeah, but that's my point.
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Starting point is 00:19:49 See, this is why you'd be quite good if you went to the moon. Yeah, well, normally when you see space films, there is a guy that looks like me at some sort of computer screen, but he's normally on Earth going up. I don't really understand what's... He's moving into the wrong quadrant. How far do you think we're going to be from like you know like Star Trek when they've got those big like cool fucking
Starting point is 00:20:10 spaceships that go around and you've got like tennis courts and stuff on them I don't I think it feels like we're a way away doesn't it we're not even in a state where you can take your helmet off up there are we so I think tennis courts feel a while away.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Yeah. But the point I was saying is I don't think you're going, should we go to Provence or Mercury? Do you know what I mean? Like, you're not doing it as a, like... Yeah, but my point is why? I just think it's just like...
Starting point is 00:20:40 Because it's an amazing thing to do, isn't it, to go to space? It's like... If I was at a dinner party, right, and I was sitting there, me and you were sitting there, right, we're having a right laugh, some bloke comes over. I imagine you've just had a shit in the downstairs toilet, come back to the table, yeah, go on.
Starting point is 00:20:58 You're complaining about the lack of vegan food. Oh, for fuck's sake! Actually, we'll get on to that in a minute. Well, well, no, I've got a bone to pick with you. You've got a bone to pick with me? Yeah, I'll put it up in a minute. Don't let me forget. And then someone comes
Starting point is 00:21:15 rolling over and we're like, oh, alright, Tom, hello, Romesh. I've bloody just got back from the moon. I think, oh, here we go. She's going to be a waste of 20 minutes. think oh here we go she's going to be a waste of 20 minutes I mean this guy's just going to be
Starting point is 00:21:28 showing off whereas if someone came over and went god bloody hell I've just been I don't know the Canary Islands or I've just been to
Starting point is 00:21:35 I've just been to like Dubai I'll be like how was it because I can identify and go I might do that one day myself the moon I think it's just a show off thing
Starting point is 00:21:43 I think it's a statement thing it's the statement thing. It's the same as dropping a really flash pair of car keys. You're right. Or wearing a watch. No, you're right. Like, you literally have a watch that's really expensive that no one else at the dinner table can afford. That's one thing.
Starting point is 00:21:54 If I see a flash watch, I'll never ask that person a time. That's one of my life rules. Well, I would... The idea that you would ask someone a time in this day and age feels insane anyway, doesn't it? No, but, you know, you'll never say the time in this day and age feels insane anyway, doesn't it? No, but,
Starting point is 00:22:07 you know, you'll never tell. I'm sorry, what time is it? Yeah, I feel like that's gone now, isn't it? Asking people what the time is.
Starting point is 00:22:13 I think sometimes it's a nice way of making conversation. Oh my God. Okay, let's just role play. I'm just walking along, I've got a watch, you've not got a watch on.
Starting point is 00:22:20 What's the context of this? I always wear a watch, but I just... Okay, fine. So you've still got a watch, but you're asking me the time so immediately i think this is this guy this guy's sometimes this guy's so we're at a party we're at a party we don't know each other but we've got a mutual freddy's party is okay hey man how you doing um cool dancing by the way i
Starting point is 00:22:36 noticed you're out there cutting some shapes oh thanks i get a bit nervous about dancing but it's just i felt like i should sort of get involved in the party, you know. Oh, say what, man? You've got a really cool flex to you, bro. Thank you. Oh, I was going to ask. Are you obsessed with the 90s? Just unrelated question. Yeah, kind of. It was my heyday.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I'm just basing it on the way you're talking and what you're wearing and stuff. Sorry, I was going to ask you, actually. I know you've got quite a nice watch. What's the time? You've got a watch on, haven't you? Yeah, I know, but sometimes, I don't know if this one actually keeps correct time. It's stuck on 3.20.
Starting point is 00:23:18 My joke is always, it's 3.20 somewhere in the world all the time. It's funny. It's a Casio, though, so it feels weird to just wear that for the hell's funny. It's a Casio, though, so it feels weird to just sort of wear that for the hell of it. It's 25 past nine, actually. Oh, wow. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:23:30 So I've probably got about another hour or two and then I'm going to probably hustle home. Where else do you live? You'll be here for another two hours, will you? Yeah. Okay. That's good to know. That's good to know.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Could you keep time for me and give me a shout about half past eleven and then I'll probably just try and get the last train home. Yeah, I don't, sort of based on what I've seen in the park, I don't anticipate still being here at half 11. Cool. But sure, if I am here, I'll give you a heads up. By the way, when I'm offering my hand,
Starting point is 00:23:59 that means a handshake and goodnight maybe? Yeah, well, yeah, I will shake your hand and i will say good night because i think i'm leaving take care okay good bye bye god bless you see that's that's yeah that's really nice yeah it's good can i add you on facebook would probably be my last thing or i might find follow you on instagram if you know you should put up a video of your dance moves and then it's yeah and then you've made a new friend. Actually, to be fair, actually, I do think that's one of the things that I think only sort of like a certain percentage of the population should have had watches.
Starting point is 00:24:32 And then that's an icebreaker. Because I think that we're running out of icebreakers in 2023. I don't know if we are running out of icebreakers or if just people are less inclined to talk to strangers now. Do you not think that's the case? And I always say this as somebody who's less likely to talk to people who than you are um but i do think that i actually wish i was a bit more like you in that regard i find um my kind of i do feel like people take me as being rude but i'm just a little the truth is i'm a bit shy that's that's the honest truth of it i am a bit shy i know that sounds weird coming from a stand-up
Starting point is 00:25:07 comedian but yeah i just i mean we can all feel shyness but i do think that if you've got conversation breakers that's why i always think it's good when someone wears like a football shirt or something that is yeah where you can latch on to okay, okay. Yeah. Like if someone's wearing a QPR shirt or bloody even. No, I get it. You'd have to give examples, yeah. I understand what you mean. So anyway, going to the vegan side. Yeah, what's the problem?
Starting point is 00:25:37 No, no, no, not vegan food. So we went out on a bit of a big one last week with the whole vegetable chat, fruit vegetable chat. And I literally came off the podcast. Why have you got a bone to pick with me? Because I literally came off it and I was just like, I sat here for about another five, ten minutes
Starting point is 00:25:54 and just went through like, peppers have got pips in. So that must be a fruit. Aubergine have got pips in. So that must be a fruit. Has aubergine got pips in? Yeah. Has it? Seeds. It got pips in yeah has it seeds
Starting point is 00:26:06 it's got seeds in has it yeah yeah but you don't have to cut an aubergine open yeah but it's got little like bits in it it hasn't got seeds in it
Starting point is 00:26:14 has it yeah but they're little seeds courgettes have got seeds in have they yeah okay you go through like literally
Starting point is 00:26:22 and then you're like that it just actually just wound me up I sat here I had to really like you go through that literally and then you're like that it just actually just wound me up I sat here I had to really like I was going to call you back and talk to you about it
Starting point is 00:26:31 but I was like it's a shame you didn't so basically you've only got cauliflower broccoli and potatoes is all I can register
Starting point is 00:26:39 that is actual vegetables courgette seeds you're looking to see if I'm eating if you look at the picture yeah I know courgette seeds right yeah but that's not what you find in a courgette seeds. You're looking to see if I'm eating... If you look at the picture of... Yeah, I know, courgette seeds, right?
Starting point is 00:26:47 Yeah, but that's not what you find in a courgette, that picture. Is it? Have you ever seen that in a courgette? I never have. Is courgette a fruit
Starting point is 00:26:56 or a veg? Small edible seeds inside. Holy shit. Yeah, courgette's a fruit. So my point is, right, if you came to my house and I was to say, oh, I've made you some Mediterranean vegetables, right,
Starting point is 00:27:11 with a little bit of pasta and some sort of, like, vegan cheese, you could turn around and go, that isn't actually, it's fruit. So what are we doing? Everything is just an absolute fuckfest. Yeah, it is a fuckfest. It's really annoying me. I'll tell you what the other thing that happened is that Flo got in touch with us after the podcast. And she told us that a banana's a herb.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Yeah, again. I mean, what the fuck? What this is, right, is this is what happens when too many people get involved with naming things and putting a perspective on things. It should have just been, if it's savoury, it savory it's a vegetable if it's sweet it's a fruit but some fucking clever clogs has sort of added like seeds and shit to it oh yeah if it's got seeds if it's got pips and it's like that doesn't fucking work it doesn't work um i'm just looking at what makes a fruit a
Starting point is 00:28:02 fruit i've just looked this up okay okay? Okay. And by the way, you sort of were quite front-footed at the top of this, as if I'm in charge of this classification. I'm not. No, no, no, no, no. But you were very smug. I wasn't smug. Your exact words were,
Starting point is 00:28:18 I've got a bone to pick with you about this, right? Yeah, yeah, because you were like, oh, you don't even understand it, mate. Okay, I didn't say any of that all right a fruit is the part of a plant that houses its seeds which are vital in the reproductive function of the plant all right a vegetable on the other hand is about any other edible part of the plant like the roots steam stems or leaves steams here uh a bean or a pea is a seed that grows inside a lagoon plot. I mean, fuck that. I can't even begin to process that.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Yeah. Here are some fruits that you might have thought were vegetables. Okay, you ready? Yeah. Peppers. Yeah. That's a fruit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Pumpkin. Yeah. That's a fruit. All right. Avocado. No, there's a fruit. Aubergine. Yeah. That's a fruit. All right. Avocado. No, that's a fruit. Aubergine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:09 That's a fruit. In fact, aubergines are berries, apparently. What? Yeah. Olives. This is what I mean. It's just such... What's that noise you just made?
Starting point is 00:29:20 Are we getting all worked up for? It's me getting annoyed because I'm like, it's just so confusing. Okay. Olives so confusing. Okay. Olives, fruit. Yeah. Courgette is a berry. Okay. Okra.
Starting point is 00:29:34 You know what okra is, right? Yeah, I know what okra is. Is a fruit. Cucumber, fruit. Green beans, legume. Butternut squash. Fruit. Yeah. cucumber fruit green beans legume butternut squash fruit yeah i don't know sweet corn sweet corn is a dry fruit oh fucking hell i mean look i'll be honest with you i'm starting to get as annoyed as you are this is what i mean though if someone goes on yeah if at your veg it's like that none of it's vegetables literally
Starting point is 00:30:06 I'm like someone's had an absolute fucking nightmare here what you want I know what you want you want if it's savoury vegetable
Starting point is 00:30:14 if it's sweet fruit isn't it exactly but that's what I've spent 44 years thinking yeah no I get it I understand why
Starting point is 00:30:21 you'd be annoyed and it's like you know it's all been for nothing. What do you mean for nothing? How I've thought that this is this and this is this. Actually, it's far more confusing than that. And it's more confusing than it has to be.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Yeah, I agree with you. Listen, I agree with you. I'm not as worked up about it as you are, because I'm trying to think of how much it's affected your life up to this point and i would argue if anything it's been a benefit because it's given us some content for this absolutely unscripted piece of shit that we deliver every week but my problem is it's like just the labeling of it going oh it's it's unfair one if you're if you're i don't know if you're a pepper you're a fruit right and it's pretty clear and i've many times like roasted a pepper and some aubergine and some uh courgette and called it mediterranean vegetables right okay and actually that's
Starting point is 00:31:20 mediterranean fruit and it's my you know but if I was to say that, a dinner party, you know, I mean, I'm using a dinner party a lot. Yeah, I mean, you're really rubbing it in because I've never,
Starting point is 00:31:30 as we know, I've never been to your house. Also, I've never been, I think in my life I've been to two dinner parties. So, if I was to cook up
Starting point is 00:31:41 some Mediterranean vegetables and pasta for a dinner party, right? And then, yeah, oh, this is right? And you turn around and go, oh, these Mediterranean vegetables are absolutely delicious. And I put my hand on your shoulder. This is where it becomes very unrealistic because I wouldn't have been invited.
Starting point is 00:31:56 But yeah, go on. And I put my hand on your shoulder slowly and say, rubbish, my friend, they're actually Mediterranean fruit. And it was just fucking, because it's not a main course then is it no it was so fucking insane
Starting point is 00:32:09 yeah I'm just yeah I'm just none the wiser okay but you being none the wiser has it ever caused any confusion
Starting point is 00:32:17 is I guess the point I'm trying to make apart from for yourself now has it ever has it ever caused you an issue? No, but I just think for a long time,
Starting point is 00:32:27 I've been labelling something. It should be taught in schools very early on. This is fruit. And fruit, don't get it dizzy. Just because it's sweet, it doesn't mean that it's fucking fruit. Sometimes fruit can also be sour savoury okay
Starting point is 00:32:45 well I do think this is I think this is a bit of hungover Tom coming into this now because I think you're a bit yeah I mean it could be
Starting point is 00:32:51 you're a bit of a grump this morning aren't you I've got a grump also I've had to I've had like chores to do this morning so what have you done
Starting point is 00:32:59 I've had to fix a coffee machine because I've been putting that off and I've had to try to bleed have you I've been putting that off and I've had to try to bleed have you ever bled a radiator yeah yeah it is difficult yeah I get very nervous about saying what I've done because I know the Swan listened to this actually had the experience the other day of getting in the car for the first time in my life she's actually happened to have an
Starting point is 00:33:20 episode of all for now as opposed to parent in hell which she normally has spinning yeah she's actually got caught up and episode of The Wolf and Owl. Oh, really? As opposed to Parenting Hell, which she normally has spinning. She's actually got caught up and has gone back to the... I spoke to Lisa on the phone last night. Yeah. And I said to her... What was she... She was talking about...
Starting point is 00:33:35 Oh, she was talking about Thursday, because obviously the cat and the swan are both coming to the Apollo show. Yeah. And I'm away for a couple of nights. So I spoke to Lisa and I said, and she said, I started listening to The Wolf and Owl from the beginning because I sort of got caught up
Starting point is 00:33:50 and then I said, let me just go back to the beginning. She's on episode three of the... I said to her, what's it like? And then she, this is her exact words, right? If anything, it's got less structure than it does now, is what she said. What?
Starting point is 00:34:04 Less structure? Yeah, it would have had, but it was now, is what she said. What? That's what she said. Less structure? Yeah. Yeah, it would have had. But it was just, that was her main observation. Wow. Just think about the way she's phrased that, right? She's not gone, you've actually got more structure now than you thought you did. And it's actually, you know, it's interesting to see how you've got,
Starting point is 00:34:19 what she says is it's got even less structure than it does now, is how she phrased it. I can't even remember those early days. Hmm. I don't feel like we'd found a groove in those early days. I feel like we were looking for it a bit much. I mean, people would say that we're looking for it not enough now. And I think that would be a fair criticism.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Yeah. So you feel like you're going to listen to this? Here's a question for you. No, Lisa does listen to the parenting help. Yeah, no, so she listens to this. So she will catch you out for lying about this? Here's a question. No, Lisa does listen to the parenting help. Yeah, no, so she listens to this. So she'll catch you out for lying about this. Well, the thing is, as I've said, thank you for bringing me back on track, by the way.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I was off on a fucking meander there. But yeah, she'll say to you that I once tried to bleed a radiator and failed, and that would be an accurate representation of it. You just stick the key in, and then you have to put something underneath the end of it, right? Yeah, and I've got to go back to it after this and try and do it because you know when you have you ever been in a situation where you've done like for example the other day right i drained and sorted out the washing the washing machine wasn't working so i drained the washing machine then i pulled out the filter clean the filter and then it worked it's been working perfectly since. How did that feel? Incredible. Like genuinely, I got a little insight
Starting point is 00:35:28 into how Lionel Messi must have felt, like winning the world. I felt like, oh wow, that's actually an achievement. So I just want to put this into context. Me sort of having a eureka moment at switching the light on in my hotel room is dickish and I'm taking credit for something i don't i don't deserve but you fixing a washing machine is the same as lionel messi when in the
Starting point is 00:35:50 world cup is that what you're saying like in contact no you hold up hold up you went down you didn't if you'd found the light switch yourself right i'd literally give you a pat on the back when i saw you on thursday give you a hug and the back. When I saw you on Thursday, I'd give you a hug and go, fucking hell, smashed it, mate. Well done. Amazing stuff. You had to get dressed. Go downstairs and ask someone where the light switch was. Yeah. I followed some quite clear instructions on the washing machine on my own
Starting point is 00:36:16 to clean it and fill it. I've got no issue with that. I'm not suggesting that me finding a light switch after being instructed as to where it was is the same as fixing a washing machine. I'm not, I don't want to say that. What I'm saying is, me saying it was a eureka moment is less of a jump than you saying
Starting point is 00:36:32 you know what Lionel Messi felt like. No, but you're completely, like eureka, if you go back to the eureka moment, that goes back to the bloke who invented the light bulb, right? No. That's why you have the little light bulb above your head.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Yeah, sure, but that's not eureka. Eureka was when the geezer got in the bath he got him where he got in the bath and oh shit i just nearly knocked my laptop he got in the bath and discovered the theory of displacement which was like the amount of water that like left the bathtub is equivalent to the weight of him the mass of him i think or something getting in the bath that's what I think that's what Eureka is why are you getting arsey because it's just all these things it's just like
Starting point is 00:37:08 so all your life you see Eureka and a little light bulb goes on your head no you don't you don't you see that
Starting point is 00:37:16 I swear I'm looking it up as well actually now so let's be clear when it comes to now. So let's be clear. When it comes to shipping internationally, can I provide trade documents electronically? Mm-hmm. The answer is FedEx.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Okay. But what about estimating duties and taxes on my shipments? How do I find all the- Also FedEx. Impressive. Is there a regulatory specialist I can ask about? FedEx. Oh, but let's say that... FedEx. What? FedEx. Thanks. No more questions.
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Starting point is 00:39:09 You might be dumber as a result of listening to this podcast. Look, all there is... Look. There. Eureka. Okay, but that's like... What is that? A fucking Google image that you just found. Here's another one.
Starting point is 00:39:23 That actually looks a bit like Jamie Redknapp. It does a bit, actually. Does that say Eureka? Yeah. Here we go, look. Yeah, that says I get it. Yeah, but still, it's like... Okay, so apparently this... Apparently, although Eureka is associated
Starting point is 00:39:43 with the bath, it probably didn't actually happen. Another one? You don't have that on a T-shirt? Okay, yeah, I get it. What I'm saying, mate, is that for a long time... Yeah, but that's when people say... That's not when the light bulb was invented. That's like, ding, a light comes on in your head.
Starting point is 00:40:01 You've suddenly discovered something. That's what you meant with the eureka moment, though. Well, I wasn't literally referring to the light. Look, can we... We're getting a bit hung up on the fact that I used eureka incorrectly. And the fact that I'm getting... Considering that that's been your fucking go-to,
Starting point is 00:40:18 that's been your special move, like, you're throwing it willy-nilly around the eureka thing, right? Mm. Saying, right, you know, oh, that was my eureka. Like, literally sitting there in youry-nilly around, the Eureka thing, right? Mm. Saying, right, you know, that was my Eureka. Like, literally sitting there in your fucking, like, leather jacket. Oh, yeah, it was my Eureka moment where I'd proved the world wrong.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Oh, well, you didn't prove the world wrong. You had to literally scurry around the hotel on your hands. At what point did I imply that I'd proved the world wrong? The point I was trying to make was I felt really happy that I'd managed to get darkness in the room. Yeah, but that's not a eureka moment. A eureka moment is a moment of like, wow! Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. I'm saying I misused it.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Yeah. And what I'm saying is, like, in my house, where I did that, I was like, wow, I feel like an absolute champion here. Maybe Lionel Messi was a bit of a reach, but I at least felt like someone who's... It was more than a bit of a reach but at least it was more than a bit of a reach Lionel Messi winning the World Cup
Starting point is 00:41:08 is what you compared it to fixing the washing machine yeah but in the contextualisation of house chore being done like in the smallest of my world
Starting point is 00:41:17 right and the levels that I have oh by the way I'll never win the World Cup as a fucking honestly do you not think so
Starting point is 00:41:23 that's gone genuinely is that on the record I just want to are you happy to be quoted I'm too old and I've yeah the way i'll never win the world cup as a fucking honestly do you not think so that's gone genuinely is that on the record i just want to are you happy to be quite old and i've yeah i'm not good that good at football right so i have to bring my parameters down i have to bring the bar like right so what is success for me what is success where where do i sit like lionel messi wow fucking hell i never in my life thought i'd be able to fix a washing machine in one go. Okay. Without Googling.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Sure. But you did Google. No, I didn't. I followed the instructions on the washing machine. All right. So that's old school, man. I look at that and think, that's an achievement. And in life, maybe, we should all be a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:42:00 That's an achievement. I've done something there. And I can actually, you know, shake my own hand, pat my own back and say, go out into the world now and spread the word that actually
Starting point is 00:42:10 nothing is unachievable. Well, you've just said that you've never won the World Cup. Some things are unachievable. No, no,
Starting point is 00:42:18 but that's because I'm not in the ballpark of it, you know. That is unachievable. No, but what I wish is if when you told us, you know, you're, you know, you're fuckingieved that is unachieved no but what I wish is if when you
Starting point is 00:42:25 told us you know your fucking ode to the lights in your room
Starting point is 00:42:30 right if that story had been like you know I was standing there looking around
Starting point is 00:42:35 like trying to find the light switch and then I thought it could be because what happened is you probably
Starting point is 00:42:40 looked for about a minute after no I looked for ages I looked
Starting point is 00:42:42 for ages I looked for ages just going downstairs and we're like oh please and i wish and i think i i'd have actually thought if you'd look for another five to ten minutes you'd have found that i wouldn't have found it i wouldn't have found it why even the guy said to me yeah you'll never find the guy said to me at reception yeah you'll never find that he said it's you know what i'd guy said to me yeah you'll never find the guy said to me at reception yeah you'll never find that he said it's in such you know what I'd have said to him
Starting point is 00:43:07 and you think that's cool do you you think that's clever well I just wanted to go to sleep it was half one two o'clock in the morning so and I just I actually
Starting point is 00:43:15 my heart went out to him that he's doing the night shift as well so I sort of yeah I feel sorry for him and I know he's probably not been involved in putting the light switches where they are
Starting point is 00:43:22 no no exactly so I felt like I just wanted to make the interaction as pleasant for him as I could. Do you know what I mean? Did he seem like you might see him again over the next... I saw him again this morning. Did you thank him again?
Starting point is 00:43:36 I went to the gym. Well, basically, he sort of had a bit of a chuckle about it. Not at my expense, but he said, you won't find that light switch. It's a weird place, they put it. And he sort of had a bit of a chuckle about it. Not at my expense, but he said, ah, you won't find that light switch. That's a, it's a weird place they put it. And he sort of had a bit of a laugh. And then when I was coming out of the gym this morning,
Starting point is 00:43:51 he was like leaving. I think his shift had finished. Yeah. And he just sort of, he sort of gave me a chuckle as if it was like a little callback to our moment that we had in the middle of the night. Oh, he's told everyone there about you then. Well,
Starting point is 00:44:02 I don't think it's that embarrassing. I couldn't find a light switch. It was essentially behind. Yeah. But you got like, when. Well, I don't think it's that embarrassing. I couldn't find a light switch. It was essentially behind him. Yeah, but you've got, like, when, like, I don't know, let's just call this guy Kevin. When Kevin's, like, he's leaving, I don't know, like, Daphne's taking over. She says, oh, yeah, how was last night?
Starting point is 00:44:16 He's like, well, put it this way, the guy in room 463 couldn't find his light switch. So that was quite amusing. And she was like oh right and then he was like shh here he comes
Starting point is 00:44:27 and you've walked past and gone you alright humourous quiet this morning and then she was like oh my god is that him
Starting point is 00:44:33 and they were like yeah yeah yeah is that sort of shit level of content that makes you think they should start a podcast I don't know. how's did you start filming the void
Starting point is 00:45:15 how's it going well I we did the first day's filming yesterday and you put up a very alluring picture of yourself
Starting point is 00:45:22 yeah well that was sort of I don't know it's one of the I sort of very alluring picture of yourself. Yeah, well, that was sort of... I don't know, it's one of the... I sort of sent you a picture of... Every other... I don't want to give any spoilers, but every other member of the cast looked amazing yesterday. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:35 As is the way with shows that we're in. We always have to look the shittest out of everyone. So I walked onto set, and everybody's talking about how great everyone looked. And i walked on and it just went very quiet yeah but let me just say you looked incredible in like you must have noticed the difference between how many you would have looked before and how you looked in lycra now and also i will say this you have written that yourself well that's the point that a lot of people made to me it's it's one of those things where you you sort of know this it's like when you're trying's one of those things where you sort of know this.
Starting point is 00:46:05 It's like when you're trying to write the funniest thing and you sort of think, I'll be funny if he's in this or whatever, or if this is his new hobby or whatever, whatever you want to call it. And you sort of detach yourself from the fact that it's going to be you doing that thing, do you know what I mean? Because you're just trying to write the thing. And you almost sort of think about the character rather than it's going to be me that's doing this and then then day one of the
Starting point is 00:46:28 shoot arrives and then you go oh yeah i wrote it so that he's doing this today and so it is your it is my fault it's weird as well because that look of the lycra on cyclists i just think like so many people don't look good in Lycra but yeah you drive around on a Sunday and you see so many people out riding and you think
Starting point is 00:46:50 just put on a tracksuit yeah yeah because I don't know what Lycra I mean I guess it makes you go faster right maybe
Starting point is 00:46:58 well I think it's aerodynamics and it's sort of easier to move in and stuff like that I mean I'm assuming there's a reason because it's not for looks although some people i mean i did actually when i sat in
Starting point is 00:47:09 the trailer looking at myself feeling sad i just thought does everybody look like this in lycra and so i googled it's a bit of a weird search history but i googled men in lycra and uh the only images i could find were people looking incredible in it so I they all looked amazing the people I found I think as well when it comes to things like that they actually should put more pictures of people who don't look amazing yeah well actually I thought congratulations everybody's looking for those images avoidance series two you'll find them something to look forward to was it how how was the first day that did you find there was a banter on set that everyone sort of well how how did you tackle it as sort of like well I wasn't in the first day? Did you find there was a banter on set? Did everyone sort of...
Starting point is 00:47:45 How did you tackle it? Well, I wasn't in the first scene, so I arrived after the stuff had started. But Ben Green... Did you go down to set? No, I was travelling. But I did turn up a little bit before I stood up. But Ben Green green my mate what's what's what how do you describe
Starting point is 00:48:09 james defront he's your friend first colleague uh business partner yeah friend colleague business partner ben you know what you could use is the word cohort yeah okay there you go cohort so my cohort ben green he did a little sort of welcome speech that i missed but i've seen a video of it now so oh wow it's very sweet yeah i'd have thought you a little sort of welcome speech that I missed, but I've seen a video of it now. Oh, wow. It's very sweet. Yeah, I'd have thought you'd have done a welcome speech. Yeah, I'm not really that guy.
Starting point is 00:48:31 People don't tend to go to me for pep talks, weirdly. Really? I go to you all the time for them. Yeah, I know, but that's different on a one-on-one basis, yeah. I'm not a big summoner, but sort of weirdly that kind of... It's a weird thing. I'm a stand-up comedian who doesn't, that kind of, it's a weird thing. I'm a stand-up comedian who doesn't like public speaking,
Starting point is 00:48:49 so it's a weird contradiction. You know what would be incredible, though, on the last day of filming, if you do an amazing, like humbling and really sort of sweet speech. I did do last series, I did. Yeah, I always try and do one of those. Because I do feel like we work the least hard out of everyone on the show. Oh, mate, on set, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Everything's done for you, and it's pretty... I do feel like it's good to pretend you appreciate all of that. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. But Ben closed the speech by saying, go avoidance. Oh, OK. He said, on three... On three, he got everyone to... on three on three
Starting point is 00:49:25 he got everyone to yeah I mean look yeah he got everyone to go I adore Ben I love Ben but that's well yeah I know
Starting point is 00:49:33 when you say I love somebody that normally I mean I feel sorry for Catherine I wonder if like in your marriage that she knows
Starting point is 00:49:40 when you go Catherine I adore you it's normally proceeding absolute leathering from you. No, but, do you know, I don't know if I've told this story
Starting point is 00:49:49 on here before, years ago I did, like a read-through of a pilot for a channel. And, it was like, me and Paddy McGuinness were the lead two ads in it,
Starting point is 00:50:03 and it was a really, really, like, Angela Griffith, it was a really, really good cast. And the script was funny, but then there's this producer, right? And he did this speech before. It was one of the hottest days of the year, so it was really, really hot and sweaty in there. And he came up to the front of the room and was like, before we start, I'm just going to say a few words about this show.
Starting point is 00:50:28 And he did this whole thing about, you know, comedy at its very root, it can make you laugh, but actually if it really pricks a moment, it can make you cry. What comedy's there to do is make you feel. And he went on for about 10 minutes about what comedy was. I'm not going to name him because it's unfair if i did so um and it just goes on and on and you could see people thinking this is just too much now and then he um put his hands together and closed his eyes and looked around and he just went um okay that's enough from me let's make a fucking movie and i was like it's not a movie it's
Starting point is 00:51:02 a tv show but like he like he had like this like a sports jet like you know not a movie it's a TV show but like he he had like this like a sports like you know like a sort of blazer on with some yeah trainers and jeans
Starting point is 00:51:11 and sort of like but that yeah that's a shame I always remember Paddy McGinnis just lent over to me and went
Starting point is 00:51:18 this isn't going to get commissioned this is fucked and it was like the most painful half hourhour read-through ever. It was awful. Everyone had felt disgusting after this speech. It was really hot.
Starting point is 00:51:33 It was actually a really good script as well. Ruined by that speech, you think? Yeah, yeah. Completely just marred by the speech. And that's why sometimes speeches aren't as good as you think. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. Yeah, sometimes speeches can inspire, but also sometimes they can actually take the tarnish off.
Starting point is 00:51:49 They can kill. They can kill a project. And I'm sure Ben's was good, but Guy Avoidance might be. How did he feel about Guy Avoidance? I think he sort of, it's one of those things where he didn't know if he was doing it tongue-in-cheek or not. Do you know one of them? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Where he sort of felt like he was being ironic but wasn't entirely sure. I think that's what that was. Have you given it to him? No, I haven't, because it was his first day sort of as director. I didn't feel that was fair to do that. Yeah. I think in time, you know, he did a great job yesterday,
Starting point is 00:52:23 so it would be horrible at the end of the first day to go by the way how do you feel about go avoidance as a thing that would feel weird in a children's TV show but I'll have word with him about it down the line you know what you should do
Starting point is 00:52:39 hold your fire and then get t-shirts made like a real humiliation like at the end when he thinks he's done a great job and he's feeling really good about himself just to really fucking no no but he's but no you know what going back to the spaceship man he's brought the fucking ship home yeah absolutely no you're right so actually go avoidance goes from something we're all joking about to actually being something that he's probably said to him every city ben's working out every morning he's looked in the him every city Ben's waking up every morning
Starting point is 00:53:05 he's looked in the mirror and gone fucking go avoidance go avoidance I imagine he's saying that right now he's about to leave so I imagine he's saying it in the mirror right now
Starting point is 00:53:12 is he at a hotel with you he is yeah yeah that's pretty amazing man is it is that amazing no no no I mean the guy avoidance
Starting point is 00:53:22 it's not that easy oh right okay fine I'm not that easily impressed wow you're in the same hotel that's incredible wow what an amazing story
Starting point is 00:53:30 I wonder if he if I wonder if he found the light switch yeah I'm not look I would say between go avoidance and not finding the light switch
Starting point is 00:53:41 I think mine's the more embarrassing I would say yeah right Tomo well we've got the big live show Thursday and not finding the light switch. I think mine's the more embarrassing. Yeah. Right, Tomo. Well, we've got the big live show Thursday. Everyone, Thursday. I think there's some tickets left.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Please, can you fucking sell this out? I mean, it's just embarrassing at this stage. So what is it? Like some singles left? If you, look, the way we see it. I think there's like two and a half500 singles sort of dotted about the venue. Look, me and Robert, as you would say,
Starting point is 00:54:08 if you're going to come alone, come alone, because when you arrive and you sit down in that audience, we're all friends, we're all family. You're part of something big, you're part of the pack.
Starting point is 00:54:16 And that's not something you'd say to try and give it the last push. Okay, Tom, can you take us out, please? Hey, friends. Ties that that bind it's a funny thing in life sometimes you can feel that you're being weighed down held down not by chains nor thick rope that would hold a spaceship or a sea vessel like a piano ferry sometimes the ties that bind are ties as thin as just the stuff that you put in your mouth to clear your teeth out otherwise known as what's it called
Starting point is 00:54:54 what kind of stuff you do floss so yeah otherwise known as thin and as fragile as tooth floss the ties of buying aren't physical ties the ties that bind are actually mental ones I can't do this, I'm not going to do that I'm scared to break free and just give myself another challenge those challenges can be simple at times, hey let's bleed
Starting point is 00:55:19 a radiator, let's clean a washing machine unless I'm not just talking about myself I'm talking about everyone let's start a conversation with. And that's I'm not just talking about myself. I'm talking about everyone. Let's start a conversation with that person and just say a general hello. Let's go to a place that we've never been before. Hey, that's Go Ape. I'm scared of walking across from tree to tree.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Have you ever tried it before? No, go and do it. You've got this. That's the thing in life that you're not always gonna have someone patting your back and saying new frontiers are easy accessible. Sometimes that voice has got to come from yourself. You have to look within yourself and know, yeah, have I achieved enough?
Starting point is 00:55:53 Maybe you have. Maybe you're happy where you are. And for that, I salute you. But if you think there's a little bit more, if you've got another little bit of the path that you can walk across and a little bit of the mountain you can climb, then make today the day that you achieve something you never thought you would friends i adore you go forth go free and smash your brothers and sisters and other people well done tom a little bit of a panic at the end there i think we all know but um really really good yeah. I sometimes hear things, and I think that's so good.
Starting point is 00:56:29 It's inspiring. And that's the song I'm choosing at the end of this. Now, it sounds like I've overstated it a little bit, but there's a track by Logic called Homicide that features Eminem. And when Eminem comes in on this tune, he is just so incredibly good at rapping on this tune. It made me think like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:56:46 I'm going to carry that attitude into everything I do. I'm going to be as good at acting today. I'm going to try and be as good at acting today as Eminem is at rapping on the tune Homicide.
Starting point is 00:56:56 So JT, can you play Eminem's verse out for us? Guys, we'll see you, hopefully we'll see you tomorrow at the Apollo. If not, thank you for listening.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Hey, thank you, friends. Yeah, thank you so much. Take care of yourselves. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Like Yankees, gun-totals to pull triggers like crazy Unloading, leave you shot up in your Rover Your body goes limp and slumps over Like A-Rod in a month low, but he just homered Hold up, I said Rover, because now your Rover is red Like Red Rover, so you know what I meant
Starting point is 00:57:32 But I wrote over my opponents instead Making dark sounds, cause I gotta keep breaking these bars down I'll go slow for the speds, but when I go Like the Doberman said, I still think the Would go over your head Beast mode, motherfuckers bout to get hit with so many foul lines You think I'm a free throw, figured it was about time for people to eat crow You bout to get outrhymed, how could I be dethroned If you have a problem, opinion, feedback or anything at all, please email us at wolfowlpod at gmail.com.
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